In this episode, Tim and Elaine continue their conversation with their friends and mentors, Jim and Judy Allen. This is a rich conversation about topics such as childhood trauma and the aftermath of abuse, a painful divorce, foster care and why Jim and Judy got involved in their later years, adoption, and the miracle of how God redeems our lives from pain and brings beautiful things out of tragedy and disappointment. This is part two of a two-part podcast series.