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Hello , it's Alex from Remote Work Life . I hope
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this finds you well , wherever you may be
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, and it's the time of year for
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me when I'm starting to think about holidays
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and I'm starting to think about travel , and
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that's probably because you tend
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to see a lot of adverts pop up on
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places like YouTube
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and Google and on TV
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and wherever it is you tend to
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see the travel companies
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, the airlines , talking
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about travel and pulling those , all those sort of images
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in your mind to get you thinking about
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travel and starting to get you to book
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your travel destinations . But
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for me , it's more than that
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. Living
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in some , living somewhere like London , it's where you've
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got the hustle and bustle and the busy traffic
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and the noise and
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the pollution or this sort of thing and I've
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got kids you think about
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quite often , or at least I do
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. Anyway , I think about where
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else could we go , what
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else could we be doing , what other destinations
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are there ? I've been in London for a long time . I
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used to travel around a lot more . I
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guess I used to be a bit more of a had
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a bit more of a nomadic lifestyle , although
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I was traveling within the UK
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, not necessarily internationally , but
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since I've had children . I've been a bit
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more settled
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, more sedentary , I
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guess you could say More work
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from home , work from co-working spaces . But as
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you get older and you see your children playing and
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especially somewhere like the UK
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where the weather's cold , where there aren't
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as many opportunities to go out and play
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for the kids or the weather's
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not conducive to going
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out as much and there's all these different
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kinds of things and the dark nights , etc
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. You've got quite young children . You may not think
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about these sorts of things
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as much , but if you're in a sort of a different
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climate , maybe , or yeah
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, so that those these are all thoughts that have
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just started to sort of enter my mind
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, and that my children are over an age where we've
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done a little bit of traveling , we've done a little bit of holiday
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traveling , where we've me
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and my wife , we've we've worked
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wherever
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we've been , so hotels , or where it is Airbnb
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, etc . But yeah
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, I would love to do travel a lot
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more . I think , and it's
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kind of inspired me to start to make
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, to make a list of different
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places that not
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just a welcoming
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but are sort of conducive to
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remote workers and
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are conducive to that , that whole lifestyle
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Not necessarily digital know-back , some
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. As I said , I'm not I'm not a digital know-back by
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any stretch of the imagination , but the
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digital nomad wave
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is definitely still
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there . It's , it's , it's I
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don't know if it's at its peak , but it's definitely
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something that countries
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and cities are trying to
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tap into . And it takes me back to a conversation
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that I had with Sandra Rausch of
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Safety Wing , where
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we have having this conversation . He was saying to me that
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countries and cities are going to start to compete
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for digital nomads
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, remote workers , and
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this was at the height of the pandemic , or at least
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, was it the height ? No
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, it wasn't the height , it was at the
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entry point , I
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guess , of the pandemic . But
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even at that point
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it was
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apparent that
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countries were gearing up to
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attract digital nomads . And , like
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I said , I've made a list of different countries
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and I'm sort
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of embarking upon some research at
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the moment where I'm looking into these different countries
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. And these are countries not
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just within Europe , but countries
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Asia yes
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, considering Asia , considering
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North America , south
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America , caribbean
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islands well , you don't often hear some
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of the Caribbean islands mentioned in
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terms of digital nomads is my remote
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work , but nonetheless I'm doing
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my research and there's lots of different aspects
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, as you can probably imagine that
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you want to look into when
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you're doing your research for
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a place where you can live and
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work , and I mean when I say
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live and work , I mean just on a short term basis
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. I think one of the things that topped my
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list is obviously
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safety and all that sort of thing is
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important , but internet
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speed , that's one big thing , because
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obviously without internet , literally
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it all kind of grinds
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to a halt . So , yeah
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, I'm just putting together a rough list and if you've
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got any ideas as well , please reach
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out to me . In
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fact , even better if you've
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actually visited some of the countries that
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I'm going to be highlighting
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, because I'm going to do one country
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each week in
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the part . I'm going to feature
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one country each week and
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it may be every other week . It depends if
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I can get some sort of cadence , some sort of rhythm into
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this whole thing , because it's quite something
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quite different for the podcast and
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I thought that my research might be able to help
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you if
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you're also in the sort of thought
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process of holidays
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and planning and
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researching different destinations for yourself
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, your family as well , I think , because again , when
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I talk , when I mentioned safety just now , something
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that's family friendly . Well , at least , at the very
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least , is yeah
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, every family
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person wants that . Every mom , every dad
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, every carer , every
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sort of caregiver , wants to be able
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to do that and they want to know
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that they are safe wherever they travel . And especially
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when you've got kids , because you kind of
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I don't know about you , but as a
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father , I'm probably pretty
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overprotective of my kids . But , yes
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, I digress slightly , but what
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I want to do in today's
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episode is because , part
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of my research , I've identified
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a few things I've identified
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top of my list at the moment , not
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necessarily for any particular reason , but for
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Georgia as one of the
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countries that has
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come to light in my research
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, and Georgia
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seems to be again one of those countries
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. Back to what I was saying about Sandra is
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that one of those countries
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that is openly
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trying to attract digital
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nomads , remote workers ? Why
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do I say that ? Well , I say that because
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they have introduced
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, as of December
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2023 . Let's
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have a look . In
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fact , let's see . There's
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a website that I'm looking at . This
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is why I'm kind of hesitating , but
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it's called visaguideworld
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and this has like a bit of a summary
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in terms of what
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Georgia has to offer and
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, in fact , I got my years wrong , because it's not 2023
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, but in 2020 , again
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back when we were having the conversation with Roush sorry
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, sandra of Safety Wing
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, georgia
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introduced their digital nomad visa called
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Remotely From Georgia
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. So I don't
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know , actually , if this is still . Again
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, you may be able to tell me if you've been there or sort of are
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planning
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to go there yourself or been there yourself . They
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introduced that back in 2020
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, called
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the Remotely From Georgia visa , and at
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the time that they introduced it again , I'm
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going to have to dig deeper into this and
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, again , the idea
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of this show is just to give you some
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ideas as well as myself as well
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, give you a starting point for
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your own research , because I'm not going to dig
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too deeply . But
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in looking at this particular
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article , basically
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what they've said , what they're saying , the idea of this Remotely
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From Georgia visa is
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it provides an opportunity for long-term
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stays , so six months and
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up to a year , which , if
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it's still apparent , if it's still
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the case , then that's really
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good and that would suit my purposes
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, because I wouldn't plan to stay that
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long . I
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wouldn't plan to stay that long . In fact , I probably wouldn't even
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need to say I
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don't know Would I need a work
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visa while I'm staying . I wonder Again
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if you're a visa
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expert and you want to come on the show
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, you want to talk about visas
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and visa applications and all that
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sort of thing , the ins and outs of travel
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, then I would welcome
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you on the show to
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demystify some of the things that I am talking
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about , because lots of this doesn't necessarily
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it's
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not my wheelhouse . This is not my wheelhouse
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at all . As I said , this is just me openly
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riffing and sharing my thoughts
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on what I can see on
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this page here of this particular website . So , according
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to the website as well , there's
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a few things I've picked out . In
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fact , let's see there's about
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10 things I picked out which make it make
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this article appealing and
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make the whole idea of going to Georgia appealing . So
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I've talked about the digital nomad visa , the fact
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that they're trying to openly
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attract people like
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me who want to work remotely , so
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that's a good starting point . Number
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two on this list the visa application
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process . If it applies to me I
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don't know if it does , because I don't think I'll be staying
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for six months it would be lovely if we could , but I
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don't think we will be . But
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again , I haven't made my decision yet . So
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the visa application process
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is simple Love to hear that and
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can be completed online . Even better , I'd
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be surprised if they had had
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a paper based system in place
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so it can be completed online
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with a processing time of 10
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business days Superb , so that's . That's
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another advantage . Definitely , you
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don't want processes that take too long , even though
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I guess some I've come across others that take too long . I've
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come across others that take less . I've come
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across some that take more . But , yeah
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, we can live with 10 days , especially as we're not thinking
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immediately about going anywhere . What
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else ? There are no application fees
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, so it's always good not
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to have to shell out any money for this sort of
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thing , given that we're thinking about going
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there to spend money anyway . So
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no application fees are required
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for obtaining a Georgia digital nomad
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visa . So that's number two the application
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process sounds pretty good to me . And
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number three , visa entry
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visa free entry , so
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Okay
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. So another thing that kind
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of answers the question that I perhaps asked
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earlier on is that Georgia allows
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citizens from 95
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countries to enter visa
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free and stay for up to 365
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days , including flexibility
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for digital nomads and again
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this particular article that I've got , which
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probably I should link to in the , in
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the sort of show notes , gives
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a whole list of the different
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countries that that
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this applies to . So Australia
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, botswana , lithuania , ukraine
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, antigua Barbuda , bahrain , estonia
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, finland , andorra , slovenia yeah
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, the list goes . I'm not going to read every single one
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of the 95
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different countries , and obviously I'm
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looking for the UK and it is there , so
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that would be a
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good point for me . There's Germany , there's St
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Vincent and the Grenadines , bulgaria
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, ecuador , japan
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, portugal , norway , monaco
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, luxembourg , costa Rica , kuwait . So countries
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from literally every continent . They're
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very liberal and very when
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I say they , georgia is very open
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to welcoming people by the
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sounds of it , which sounds
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very good . So , yeah , so Georgia
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allows citizens from 95
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countries to enter visa-free
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and stay for up to 365
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days , providing flexibility . That's great . So
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that's number three on the list . Number four
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on the list the tax benefits . So
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what it's ? Again , I don't know
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if this applies to me , how it applies to me as
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somebody who wants to potentially
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, potentially , stay in the country
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for a period of time , not
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necessarily six months to a year , but
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let's see tax benefits until
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the 183rd
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day of stay . Digital
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nomads in Georgia are not required to
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pay taxes After
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183 days , the income
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tax is approximately 20%
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. So
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that's in itself is attractive
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, but , again , I'm not an expert
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on this area of the tax , et cetera , and I'm
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not sure how up to date this information is . So , again
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, this is something that you
13:53
should research yourself . The
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stuff that I'm giving here . Let me just say this
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is not necessarily advice
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. It's just me opening up and
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, I guess , sharing some of my
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thoughts with you . So , on
14:07
anything I say today , please seek your
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own independent advice and do your own research
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, and don't say
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that Alex from remote
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work life told me so because , yeah , as
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I said , I'm not an expert in any of these
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aspects , whether it comes to the visa , whether
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it comes to the travel , et cetera . This is me just sharing information
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that I've found on the internet . So
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, in terms of the tax benefits , the individual
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entrepreneur scheme allows digital nomads to
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pay only 1% on
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their first $155,000
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of income , providing
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a favorable tax scheme
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. Again , yep , seeking
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your advice on that . I don't know
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how favorable that is because I haven't compared it to any other country
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. Again , I've just really
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started the research here and I'm
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not necessarily saying that I am gonna
14:56
go to Georgia , but it's just something that , as
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I said , it's on my list . So
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, number five , bank account accessibility . Until
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sorry , unlike some
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countries , georgia allows digital
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nomads to open a bank account upon
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arrival , simplifying financial
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transactions and enhancing the overall
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experience . That's really good because
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, yeah , as
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much as there's contactless payments , we
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all need , I think
15:24
, some form of some
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method of you
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know , saving
15:30
, storing the money that we get , whether
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it's physical
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dollars or some
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sort of virtual currency . We need bank
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accounts . I don't know how open
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, obviously
15:45
, these banks are to you know the
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decentralized currencies , we don't know . But
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then again , it's something
15:52
to research , something for you to research
15:54
, something for me to research . So , yeah , bank
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account accessibility . If that is the case
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, as they put it here , you know that you
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can open up a bank account upon arrival
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. That's pretty good , it's pretty
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handy . What else do we have ? So
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, affordable living
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costs . Now , this is subjective
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because you know what's
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affordable to one person is not to another
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, but it says here the cost of living
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in Georgia and I don't really understand what
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this means but is $698
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. I think I need to look at that a
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bit more . Is that the monthly cost
16:29
of living ? Again , something I need to do
16:31
a bit more research
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on , because
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, yeah , it's always good to know
16:38
in advance
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what the cost of living may be and
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then , in that way , you can then compare
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it to where
16:47
you are currently and see
16:49
if it adds up , see if it stacks up . But
16:52
, yeah , that doesn't really make sense to me , maybe
16:56
. Yeah , I think that needs clearing up
16:58
, I think that needs to be looked into
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by me , by you . So , the
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cost of living , and if you do know , if you've been to Georgia
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, if you understand the cost of living as
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compares to something like London , for example
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, or the other big cities in the world
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, then get in touch
17:14
, hit me up on LinkedIn . What
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else ? Internet speed ? That's
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a good one . That's near the top of my list as well . So
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what it says here , this is number
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seven on the list . By the way , georgia offers
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a good internet speed of
17:28
30.28
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megabits per
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second , ensuring reliable connectivity
17:38
for remote work . Now , that's
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okay , that's
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all right . I mean , again , somewhere
17:47
like London , you're
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probably expecting around the 60
17:53
plus in
17:57
terms of some of the more connected areas . I
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know some of these internet companies . They will say one thing
18:03
you don't necessarily get what you pay for , but
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it's a little bit better than 30.28
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. But it's something that
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you can live
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with . I mean , for
18:15
me , again , if I was going somewhere like Georgia
18:17
for a short stay , yeah
18:20
, I could live with that for a while , and if
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it meant I had to take some sort of mobile internet
18:24
to
18:26
tether my computer , then
18:29
I would do that . But
18:31
, yeah , something to consider . And I think , as
18:34
I build , maybe what I'll do is I'll continue
18:36
with these comparisons and
18:39
then , well , continue with these sort
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of overviews of these different countries and
18:43
what that then does . It helps me to build
18:45
like sort of comparisons of the
18:47
different facets , the
18:52
different sort of features of each country . So
18:54
, internet speed , that was internet speed . That's number seven . So
18:58
, yeah , number eight on the list and
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something I was touching on before . Yet , living
19:03
in a metropolitan
19:05
area like London , especially
19:08
if you're living right in the center , it's
19:10
cars , it's traffic , it's road , it's concrete
19:13
, it's noise pollution
19:15
, it's light pollution , it's
19:17
all those different sorts of things . You
19:20
don't often get to see
19:22
the natural side of London unless
19:25
you really go out and look for it . There are definitely
19:27
different places you can go , but you have to travel
19:29
to get to it . You
19:31
have to travel through lots of traffic to get there . So
19:34
number eight on the list is natural
19:36
beauty and culture . So what it says here Georgia
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boasts beautiful landscapes , including
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mountains and beaches
19:43
, lovely offering opportunities
19:45
for activities like hiking and
19:47
skiing . The country is described
19:50
as beautiful and welcoming , with excellent
19:52
food and the oldest wine
19:55
, so there's a lot there
19:57
to be optimistic
20:00
about when it comes to Georgia . Again , this is just information
20:03
I've got off the internet . If
20:05
you know about Georgia , as I
20:07
said before , and you've been to Georgia , let
20:10
me know If you're from Georgia , if you're listening from
20:12
Georgia , and you can sort of corroborate
20:14
all these different and invert
20:16
common facts that I'm putting away
20:18
, then get in touch . So
20:21
natural beauty that's number eight . Number nine so
20:24
let's see eligibility
20:27
criteria . I think I've covered that . So I mentioned
20:29
, yeah , 95 countries . So
20:31
yeah , I've already covered that and that's kind
20:33
of that's
20:36
definitely positive , the fact that Georgia
20:38
is open to so many different
20:41
, so many different
20:43
countries and citizens of different
20:45
countries that it's really good . Sorry for
20:47
the background noise there . It's
20:50
open to citizens of different countries and they're eligible
20:52
to apply for the Georgia
20:54
Digital Nomad Visa . So
20:58
that's number nine on the list . And then let's
21:00
have a look . Application requirements . So the
21:02
application requirements essentially
21:05
, what they're saying is clear information on
21:07
required documents for the application process
21:09
valid passport , proof of business or employment
21:12
, medical insurance you probably need
21:14
to have that and I think in some
21:16
of these longer term processes
21:19
, one thing I've learned
21:21
is that medical insurance is something
21:23
that you're gonna need to think
21:25
about getting or get in advance . So
21:28
, again , do your research to see
21:30
which suits your circumstances
21:32
best . Again , I
21:34
mentioned safety wing at the top
21:37
of the show . Have
21:39
a look at safety wing . There are many other
21:42
different medical
21:44
insurance companies , but , yeah
21:47
, safety wing is one that is known pretty
21:49
well in the community of
21:51
remote workers and digital
21:53
nomads , so that you know it's good
21:55
to have something , that's good to work with a
21:57
company that knows digital
22:00
nomads and has been there
22:02
and has done that in terms of
22:04
supporting digital nomads
22:06
. So , yeah , but
22:09
yeah , that's it for my list for today
22:11
. In terms of you
22:13
know a country that is on my list
22:15
to do some more research , maybe I'll , once
22:18
I've got a bit more information , I'll share
22:20
a bit more as I get it . But yeah
22:22
, if you're considering traveling
22:25
, please , as I said , get in touch
22:27
on LinkedIn , let me know where you're thinking
22:29
about and let me know what research you've done
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and if you're a visa expert , if you know about these different
22:33
countries , if you've been to these different countries , if
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you live in these different countries , always open
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to hear from you . But that's
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it for today from me , from the Remote Workhouse Podcast
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. Listen out for the next episode
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and I will catch you
22:47
on the next episode . All the best
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.
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