Seth and Peter discuss our participants’ reflections on the impact of the anti-racism protests in the USA on their organisations and countries, a possible return to ‘business as usual’ with respect to Covid-19, and where to look for leadership in the future.

Find out more about the ‘Resilient Leadership’ project here: www.resilienceshift.org/resilient-leadership

Podcast editing by Roman Svidran. Music by Robin Fuzile and Jesse Reiner from the album ‘Unyuko’ (2019).