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on Ridiculous History, I'm getting what happened?

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What happened? I just wanted to do that voice

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because I love that kind of vo and I never I

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never get to do it except for weird ads.

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But you're right, this is something

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where we have a slight recap. We

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dove into an amazing story

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with our pale Matt Waxman, the creator

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of Trigger Ration. You remember this though

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it was it was Tuesday. Thanks

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to the magic of editing, it seems like it

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was only Tuesday. Way

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it was Tuesday. No, it's true, and it

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was really great and it wasn't something that were maybe it's

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gonna throw in as a little bit of in the side. Um

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after discussing really, uh,

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such an interesting and divisive character. Again, I

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came clean early on. It's not being like a

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sports guy. Um, But man, do

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I love a good scandal and a good

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sex addic story and this has got all that

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stuff. Man and he and that now we're gonna add

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in copy is drinking. We barely

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even scratched the surface of the man's epic

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ability to throw back Miller lights.

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I think we might have hinted at it very briefly, but that

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is literally what today's episode is about, right, Miller

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Light, You're so good you can drink it with your

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mouth? Boy, did he ever drink

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it with his whole mouth and his whole heart? And

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Uh, just to reiterate, Miller Light, you're

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welcome for that catch phrase. Please use it

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to your heart's content. That

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catchphrase has been co signed and green

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light by our super producer, Casey Pegram.

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And when we were doing this episode,

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this exploration of this sex scandal

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and the halcy young days

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of sports reporting, we knew

2:02

we could not dive into the endeavor alone.

2:04

That's why we have our returning

2:06

guest Matt Waxman, who, by

2:09

the way, I sat patiently through this entire

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episode. Uh, Matt, how's it going, Thanks

2:13

for staying with us, No, no problem, It's

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it's good to be on the show. Good to be back on the

2:17

show. I mean again, like this guy,

2:19

Wade Boggs is a total legend. And since

2:22

we last talked, I actually went back and

2:24

research and found more about him

2:26

that we need to touch on. So we're gonna

2:28

hit the beer and stuff. But this guy also saved

2:31

some African villagers back in

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two thousand and five, so well, let's hit it all, okay,

2:35

I I think we start with the

2:38

uh, the inebriated elephant

2:41

in the room. Wade Boggs

2:43

is a drinking legend, and

2:46

there is a an urban

2:48

legend, perhaps a bit of modern mythology,

2:51

about a a

2:53

particularly boozy plane

2:56

flight he took. Matt, could you give

2:58

us just the quicken dirty of

3:00

this? Like, what what's the gist of the

3:02

story? All right? So I think we

3:05

we we placed this story around the early

3:07

nineties, and rumor had

3:09

it that bugs drank a copious amount

3:11

of beer. One I'm in a cross country flight

3:13

after a game, and the number

3:16

very I mean, first there was a number in the

3:18

sixties. Then the

3:20

number grew a little more than people that went to

3:22

bugs, he kind of hemmed in hod and

3:24

then later on on it's always sunny.

3:27

It turned out he told Charlie Dave there's an official

3:29

number. The number is a hundred and seven

3:32

and that's how many beers he drank in one cross

3:34

country plight. Okay, that first

3:37

off, how do you get more than

3:39

three or four drinks. That can't be a

3:41

commercial flight, can it. Now we're talking,

3:43

definitely talking charter flight. I mean the socks

3:46

back in these days flying their own

3:48

charter And I think I think Bogs

3:50

plays with the math a little. I mean a

3:52

lot of people have looked at how this is even possible,

3:55

and I think we should really, you

3:57

know, sharpen our pencils and try and figure this out. So

3:59

let's no, you gotta do you have a Pencilvania,

4:02

you know I do. I've got

4:04

like a sharp pair of scissors. I can scrawl

4:06

it into the surface of my desk. I'm

4:08

gonna do that. Yeah, perfect, all right, all

4:10

right, So let's try and figure this out. All right, So we need to

4:13

get to A hundred and seven. I

4:15

assume he's going in to l

4:17

A X from Boston. So after

4:20

the game, you know, that's when you're

4:22

most thirsty. Locker room back

4:24

then, all the guys were drinking beer in the locker room

4:26

at the game. So I say, were easy.

4:29

He puts away at twelve pack after the game,

4:31

million around there, got it? Got

4:33

it? Okay? So then bus

4:36

ride from Fenway to Logan Airport,

4:39

that's easy. Six beers.

4:41

I mean, I imagine that late at night. They're

4:43

probably going at midnight. I'd say that's

4:45

like a you know, a third thirty minute

4:47

trips. I'd say six beers there. Then

4:50

you know they're waiting to board the flight. You don't just

4:52

walk right on. You gotta deal with the little security

4:55

all that. I think we can put him down

4:57

four in that thirty minutes. Maybe he's I'd

5:00

say, I don't know, give him another twelve pack there. This

5:02

is also like in the housey on, like pre nine

5:05

eleven days, or you could easily waltz through security

5:07

with like a couple of beers in hand,

5:09

right, No, no problem there. Yeah. I think

5:12

if you're way bus, you do whatever the f you want.

5:14

Probably so, And one little quick question is

5:16

to backtrack. So if you're in like, uh, you

5:18

know, a tour van or like a

5:21

sports you know, like passenger

5:23

type van like that, Um is

5:26

the laws of open containers not apply

5:28

or these people just they just don't care, They

5:30

just flo out the laws. I think I think

5:32

the laws do apply, except if you're

5:35

the greatest hitter on the planet, and then you do

5:37

again whatever you want, Like I don't think wade

5:39

bugs is like oh, fifty to speed

5:41

limit like people

5:44

are at least when they pull you over, pull

5:46

you over for your autograph, not to

5:48

give you a ticket exactly. And I get

5:51

I think Wade Bugs is

5:53

basically a cup So I

5:55

think Wade bus kind of can do whatever he wants and

5:58

just for just for really quickly. It's for a context

6:00

to prove your hypothesis here, Matt,

6:03

I did find a quote from a guy

6:05

named Jeff Nelson, Um

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who I believe was one of his teammates, and

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he said Bogs was always the first player

6:13

to the clubhouse. He would bring a six

6:15

pack with them. He'd be there drinking a

6:17

beer when someone showed up, and as

6:19

we were all packing our stuff up out

6:21

of our lockers and getting our bags ready

6:23

for the trip, Wade would sit there and drink

6:25

that whole six back. Um

6:28

that this is just like sort of was basically

6:30

par for the course for Wade Bogs.

6:33

Right, Yeah, we we talked about this a little

6:35

bit previously. I think I don't remember

6:37

if it made to air. But Jeff Nelson is a former

6:39

relief pitcher. You can read his

6:42

comments about Bogs on

6:44

some excellent Esquire articles,

6:47

and he says it was absolutely normal for

6:49

bogs to drink. I think he said fifty

6:52

or sixty beers on a single flight,

6:54

So that doesn't get us to the hundred and seven

6:57

number. But right now, for

6:59

everyone listening along at home, we're

7:01

already at thirty and they're

7:03

not on the plane. So knowing

7:05

that, you know, in general, bugs

7:08

would drink like plus or minus twelve

7:10

beers, you know, in a right

7:12

after the game, before we even leaving the clubhouse. Can

7:14

we start back from there? Uh, Matt, I just kind

7:17

of lost track, and I want to make sure I've got my tally right.

7:19

They counted thirty twelve and

7:21

then six and then twelve right, perfect,

7:24

perfect, Okay, So then you know they get

7:26

on the flight, they got to do the whole security briefing.

7:29

I think he's easy putting another six pack

7:31

away there. I mean, I don't think there's any question. And we've

7:34

got six before the plane even is

7:36

in the air. Perfect thirty six already.

7:38

This is, by the way, most people. I am

7:41

not a doctor, I'm not like a booze

7:43

surgeon or whatever, but I'm pretty sure

7:45

thirty six beers will put the

7:47

uh, the average mortal man down

7:49

for the counts, right, And these are not tall

7:51

boys. These are like your typical twelve

7:53

ounce pull tap cans right definitely

7:56

at twelve ats B. I think if we

7:58

went tall boys, then all of a sudden, our

8:00

math gets real screwy. So let's go with the twelve ounce

8:02

beer. And then the real math

8:04

question is flight cross country. Look

8:07

at five and a half hours, let's make it six

8:09

hours, just to make the math as easy as

8:11

possible. How many beers can

8:13

a living legend like Wade Bugs

8:16

consume? I mean, at this point he's really

8:18

cruising himself, and so I think

8:20

he's really I would

8:22

put him down for I'd say nine

8:24

beers an hour would be that

8:27

seems realistic to me at this point. Yeah,

8:30

nine beers an hour seems reasonable. I mean,

8:32

it doesn't seem reasonable, but well I

8:34

don't. I think I, as a mere mortal, could probably

8:36

do four beers in it, you know,

8:38

maybe, but that's probably pushing it for me.

8:40

Even so nine is on

8:42

the is on the the edge of epic. I would

8:44

say, like twelve would be just like

8:47

godlike and completely unrealistic,

8:49

but nine, I'm like him that Yeah, okay, so

8:51

I'm I'm doing some lazy math here,

8:54

I know, uh, I know if it's a

8:56

if we call it six hours, it's like a five

8:58

hour or forty even of flight or something. And

9:00

then just to make the math work. From what

9:02

Nelson said, it sounds spot

9:04

on. It sounds impossible. Like the only way I could

9:07

drink nine beers an hour on a plane,

9:09

I'm gonna be super honest with you, guys. I could

9:11

only do it if I was sitting on the toilet

9:14

where I was drinking them in the bathroom,

9:16

so I wouldn't have to keep getting up and walking. But

9:18

yeah, I think we except we except nine.

9:21

And I like the phrase edge of epic, And I also

9:23

think the one thing we we've got to consider

9:25

is, you know, even though

9:27

we weren't there and we haven't heard this, you know,

9:30

he boarded the plane holding two

9:32

thirty packs, and you just can see him

9:34

doing that. So you can see him walking

9:36

up the stairs to the plane. You can see him sitting

9:38

down and having the three seats. He

9:41

sits in the middle. He puts one thirty on his

9:43

right, one thirty in its left, and he says,

9:45

this is my mission. So like we kind

9:47

of know this is true, even though we don't

9:49

know this is true. Well, I have to say. I love

9:51

the unapologetic nature of this

9:54

man's beer consumption too. He doesn't seem concerned

9:56

at all, you know, being like someone in

9:58

the public guy who's intentionally like,

10:00

you know, a role model for like kids and

10:03

stuff. But it's very clearly just flaunting

10:05

his uh, his excessive drinking,

10:07

almost like a superpower. I gotta give

10:09

the guy props for that kind of moxie. Yeah, and

10:12

I think Wade Bugs has been called a lot

10:14

of things. Role model is probably the one thing

10:16

I don't know about. I mean, role

10:18

model for functional alcoholics maybe,

10:22

But no shade to the man, because

10:24

we're we're looking at the nuts and

10:26

bolts of this. We're we're we're

10:28

solving the mystery here with your

10:30

help, Matt. So, if I've got my counts

10:32

correct, then six

10:34

hours nine beers an hour, that's

10:37

fifty four beers just

10:39

on the plane. Just how on earth

10:42

is that possible? It seems impossible,

10:44

it really does. But again, you're trying

10:47

to put yourself in Wade Boggs's place, and that's

10:49

like saying, like, why don't you have three thousand hits,

10:51

Like it's just not right for you to picture

10:54

yourself doing this stuff. There's a different guy.

10:56

Yeah, I think I've got maybe the wrong mistress.

10:58

I don't know. I was looking at my stats after

11:00

we recorded the first episode. Alright,

11:04

so we the plane lands, and

11:06

then you know, Bogs is looking we

11:08

we He cranks fifty four, so he's got

11:10

six left, so I think he's hitting

11:12

those last six as the plane

11:14

is basically taxiing, so just to finish

11:17

off the two thirties. That gets rid

11:19

of all the beers. He no longer has

11:21

to deal with any of this stuff. So he's

11:24

got, uh, I've

11:26

lost the jacks, Casey, I'll let you jump in here.

11:28

Yeah, you guys, we're at right now. Okay,

11:30

okay, we're getting there. Boy, we're

11:33

so at this point, what is he like? Are they are there

11:35

taxing? Are they about to descend

11:38

this? Because he's not really necessarily like shooting for a

11:40

number, he's not trying to beat a record

11:42

or anything. He just organically got

11:44

there, And I think that's right. I think he's just trying

11:47

to get through these two thirty recks.

11:49

He's got six left. He polishes off those

11:51

last six, and then they get off

11:53

the plane, but

11:59

they're not yet to their destination,

12:02

right, that's right, he still has the bus

12:04

ride to go from l A X to the team hotel.

12:07

Now I'm picturing he's got he

12:09

gets it one last twelve pack for that

12:11

ride, and he's really I assume he's,

12:13

you know, he's not seeing great at this point. I

12:16

think his goal is to hit

12:18

these last twelve beers to get

12:20

to one oh eight. But I

12:22

think he realizes he's starting to slow

12:25

down a little. So I'm giving him

12:27

eleven of those final twelve

12:29

and he just can't finish the whole thing off

12:32

because it's the problem is it's too much beerre So

12:35

I think he's one short there. I think that

12:37

number if my math is correct, and

12:40

you you you tell me, but I've got

12:42

that being exactly the one oh seven

12:44

number, which which bogs has

12:46

claimed. And I think that this all makes

12:48

a lot of sense to me. Um. And then

12:51

one other thing we need to consider is

12:53

in the last episode we mentioned that Boggs

12:56

is very superstitious, was obsessed with the

12:58

number seven. So I think when

13:00

he got to one oh seven, he said, you

13:02

know what, that's the perfect time to stop.

13:04

I probably could go further, but

13:07

let's end it here because one oh seven

13:09

is just such an important number for me. I

13:11

love that. I love that because I was thinking

13:14

a similar thing to me. There's something so

13:16

poetic about the beer un drank,

13:19

the single beer left. I was

13:21

wondering, like, I like, I like your argument about

13:23

one or seven, because in my head, I was

13:25

thinking maybe he saved it for

13:27

after the game. He was like one cold

13:29

win for after the game. But that doesn't make sense

13:32

because he clearly has all the beer he wants

13:34

forever. He would just have someone give him a thirty

13:36

back, right, Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I

13:38

think at that point, like the ball boys

13:41

were signing Bogs autographs,

13:43

at that point, they were getting his beer. They

13:45

were dealing with like all sorts of various

13:47

mistresses, and there's no cell phones

13:49

at this point, so I imagine these mistresses are calling a

13:51

lot of you know, land lines that are

13:53

getting relayed to bugs. So at this point, like he

13:56

can get whatever he wants. You know, it's funny.

13:58

I also was one ring about that aspect

14:01

of it, because I love the imagy paint of

14:03

him, like lugging these thirty packs, like you

14:05

know, on on each shoulder, going up the little

14:07

ramp onto the charter plane. But I gotta wonder

14:09

too, I mean, do you think he had to bring his

14:11

own or or was this just a known thing that

14:14

like they had to have this on hand. They

14:16

had to have enough beers for him to

14:18

just you know, drink his fill. I

14:20

I gotta think like socks charters at

14:22

that point, like they just would just

14:25

overstock them knowing that Boggs

14:27

was coming, Like you just like got rid of

14:29

all the coffee, You got rid of all

14:31

the bottled water, all the sprite, all

14:33

the all the first aid kits, you know, every

14:36

parachutes and

14:39

so like where they normally would be like a big

14:41

inflatable slide in a plane that

14:43

was just like stuffed with beer because way coming.

14:46

No, that makes sense to me. There's probably also

14:48

something like a writer too. I mean, given

14:50

his success, I'm sure that they had

14:53

like a bevy of things that they were expected to

14:55

give him, beer being number one, but

14:57

I'm sure they were like specific snacks maybe

14:59

other Oh chicken obviously right,

15:02

he's not gonna go get his own chicken. Could you kind

15:04

of paint a picture for us, Matt about exactly

15:06

how valuable a player he was, Like

15:09

how above and beyond like he

15:11

delivered for this team and how he would have been treated

15:14

like in like royalty. Well, that's

15:16

the funny thing, is like we're we're talking about

15:18

this sort of urban legend and that

15:21

is supposedly true, but like this

15:23

is all overshadowed what a great

15:25

baseball player Bogs was. Like

15:28

that it's true, We're we're kind of

15:30

burying the lead here. Wade Boggs was one

15:32

of the great contact hitters of

15:35

all time. I mean, just as a batting

15:37

average hitter, he was incredible,

15:39

almost without Pierre Tony Gwynn, the

15:42

only guy who was sort of even close.

15:44

And if you were to pick one guy who was going to hit

15:47

four hundred for a season, you would have guessed

15:49

back then Wade Bugs and Bogs was like

15:52

he would go like a whole season

15:55

with swinging and missing like

15:57

a handful of times, like things that we've got normal

15:59

guys doing a game. You know, I swung

16:01

and missed four times in that game, game or

16:03

whatever. Boggs could go like a whole

16:05

season with that kind of number. So this

16:08

was a player that like was one

16:10

of the all time greats, even though we don't

16:12

really think of him as an all time great for many

16:14

reasons. Um also way.

16:16

Bogs was totally obsessed with his own

16:18

stats, as we mentioned in the last episode, and

16:21

that really bothered a lot of people

16:23

because it was like, if there was a guy

16:25

on first, Boggs would try and hit a

16:27

single rather than Oh, we

16:29

need a home run or a double for you to try and drive that

16:31

guy at home, and Bogs will be like, I'm trying

16:33

to keep my batting average out. Um. So

16:36

he was great, but he you know, there was

16:38

some some dings on his resume as

16:40

well as if like, is that like he's

16:42

not being a team player by doing I

16:46

got it, like he the back of his baseball

16:49

card was almost more important to

16:51

Wade Boggs than the win lost column

16:53

for the team. That makes sense, I mean, And it's

16:55

it's interesting because I took some time to look

16:58

through Baseball Hall of Fame stuff

17:00

about weight bugs, and this

17:03

guy is no joke, Like he's a monster.

17:05

And the part you're

17:08

telling us, Matt, which I hadn't heard before,

17:10

about him being sort of selfish,

17:12

more so about his stats than about his

17:15

team. It seems counter to the

17:17

idea of good sportsmanship in a team

17:19

sport. But there's no arguing

17:21

that he got results. He had two thousand,

17:23

four d thirty two career games,

17:26

and he reached base easily of

17:29

them, like the there I'm

17:31

just looking at his average.

17:34

Uh, some of the stats that you had given us

17:36

earlier, like the point three to eight

17:38

batting average, point four one five

17:40

on base percentage like these are things

17:43

other people can't do. Going back

17:45

to that idea of him getting pulled

17:47

over and somehow getting a citation

17:50

for open container, the reason

17:53

that's so laughably implausible

17:55

to me is that I bet that police

17:57

officer would have gotten on into a lot of

17:59

trouble, especially if he delayed

18:01

Bogs performing in a game.

18:04

You know what I mean? I do? I mean again,

18:07

the guy was for ten years, he hit over

18:09

three hundred and you know, Ted

18:11

Williams was considered the greatest Red

18:13

Sox hitter without a doubt because he did

18:16

it for average and power. But

18:18

Wave Bogs is I

18:20

mean David Ortiz again, Manny

18:22

Ramirez didn't do it as long as bugs, and

18:24

they may hit for more power, but Wave

18:26

Bugs is, without a doubt, one of the four greatest hitters

18:29

in mid sexes. I have to point out

18:31

something I found in an article. Um I

18:33

think it might have been from that Maxim article

18:35

you were talking Esquire article rather that you were talking about

18:37

ben But uh, there's a

18:39

question pose that we haven't really addressed

18:41

as to like how can someone drink

18:44

that many beers and not have a blood alcohol

18:46

level that's like literally lethal? Right?

18:49

Um? And and the writer of this piece

18:52

kind of goes into the specifics about it, saying

18:54

there were a lot of skeptics saying this must be BS

18:56

because you know, to drink that many

18:58

beers, your blood alcohol would be so high

19:01

that it would probably kill you, or you would get so drunk

19:03

before that point you would have to stop.

19:06

Um. But what isn't taken into account

19:08

is uh tolerance, pure

19:11

and uttered tolerance of alcohol. And

19:13

like Bogs apparently you know, he was just drinking beer.

19:16

That was his thing. Like you don't even hear about him, like, you

19:18

know, getting hammered on like liquor. He's

19:20

just he's a beer guy. I mean, I'm not saying he didn't,

19:22

but according to this, he was a hundred ninety

19:24

seven pounds cans of Miller light or

19:26

twelve ounces and have four point two percent

19:29

alcohol. So he drank you know, let's

19:31

just say having this large

19:33

tolerance that he has developed for alcohol over

19:35

the years. Um, it's really

19:37

difficult, they're saying, to actually make an estimate

19:40

as to what his blood alcohol level would be. And again

19:42

maybe I'm like, maybe this isn't even a good

19:44

way of looking at it, because how does tolerance

19:46

affect like the actual way your body processes

19:49

booze? Like like

19:51

I could saycond see you could like get used to it

19:53

more. But isn't it no matter what's the same

19:56

amount of alcohol in your system? Right Ben? Yeah,

19:58

that's correct. I mean, is Liver

20:00

is a superstar who has

20:03

its own, uh storied career.

20:05

I would also advance there's one

20:08

intervening variable we may have not

20:10

approached yet. It feels

20:12

like over the span of this infamous

20:14

flight, at least one beer's

20:17

worth of alcohol was lost in the mustache.

20:20

I mean, that thing doesn't quit. That's true.

20:22

I'm starting. I almost called it his ground

20:24

game, but his like his can game, had

20:26

to get a little sloppy, you know, probably

20:29

around beer eighty and so

20:31

he's there's gonna be some spilla, there's gonna

20:33

be Yeah, Well,

20:35

I mean, what do you think, Matt, I say,

20:37

Well, first of all, one of the grave mustaches

20:39

of all time but I would say also, you know, you start

20:42

to get like when you drink that much. You know,

20:44

we've all drank seventy eight beers. We haven't drink

20:46

a hundred and seven. But when you start to drink that much,

20:48

you finish like four fifths of a beer

20:50

and then you're like, oh, next one, And so you can

20:52

get a little lack of daisical with really

20:55

finishing off every last drop of

20:57

some So like I think of the hundred

20:59

and seven, if you can probably say

21:01

like three full beers of like

21:03

backwash leftovers, maybe like

21:05

the real the real numbers one up four, because

21:08

he was probably also at the point where and

21:11

no judgment here where his short

21:13

term memory or his attention to which

21:15

beer was the fresh one may

21:17

have faltered a little bit. And what do you

21:19

guys think he did with all the cans? Like he's

21:22

thinking, yeah, is he is he have trash bags?

21:25

Or is the steward is just coming over and

21:27

just like with a trash bag and just hauling

21:29

off ten twelve at a time. Like what do you guys think

21:31

he's even doing with all these or is he like, oh,

21:33

it's so many cans? The recycle

21:36

money is enough that like I'll take keep

21:38

them bring him with me. I uh,

21:41

you know it's funny. We uh we did a story

21:43

on another show about recycling

21:45

that's gonna come out. I would say

21:48

in this time, in as

21:50

you said, the early nineties, there was

21:52

probably instead of a bat

21:54

boy, there was like a beer boy or

21:56

a can boy or something. He was on the flight

21:59

and her job was to stay out

22:01

of the flight attendant's way and just keep

22:03

keep the cans flowing like the spice

22:06

and dune, you know what I mean, bring

22:08

because they're just walking at that point,

22:10

they're just walking to a seat with more beer

22:13

and then walking back to throw away the empties

22:15

and then walking back and he's done with the other beers.

22:17

So you think on LinkedIn there's like a guy

22:20

who's like in his like late forties

22:22

that says, like to

22:24

ninety three like Red Sox can boy.

22:27

Well, I mean, if Snoop Dogg has a blunt

22:29

roller, you know, then I don't know why

22:31

Wade Boggs can't have a canboy. That's

22:33

all I'm saying. He's earned it. You know. At

22:35

this stage in

22:41

researching Wade Bugs, I found another

22:44

story and if we have tied one

22:46

last Okay, so

22:48

again, we've covered like so many different

22:51

things that this guy has done that made him,

22:54

you know, a legend. Each one of these things

22:56

alone would make him a huge way Bugs

22:58

of course, because he's wade Bug starts

23:00

to get into exotic animal

23:03

hunting and you know these the

23:05

type all right, We've all seen the type with the

23:07

photos. Like, none of us like this guy,

23:09

but we all know that who this person is and what

23:11

their motivations. So Wave Bogs

23:14

is starting to get criticized for taking down all these

23:16

elk and you know, putting them all up in his

23:18

living room, etcetera. And he's like, no, no,

23:20

no, guys, you don't understand, Like, I

23:22

didn't just take down these animals

23:24

because I enjoyed the sport of it.

23:27

I got brought in because these animals

23:29

were terrorizing the village.

23:32

He's like, this crocodile had literally

23:34

killed two kids, and I got

23:36

brought in to kill the crocodile. Now I'm

23:38

not making this up. This is in the seat St. Petersburg

23:41

Times. There's a hippo that had

23:43

killed three villagers and their first

23:45

phone call when they were like, how do we kill

23:47

this hippo? Way Bugs? So

23:50

like, yeah, so this is like, I

23:52

mean, every part of this guy

23:56

is insane. I mean, the least interesting

23:58

part of Wade bogs Is life is

24:00

the fact that he's a Hall of Fame baseball player. Every

24:03

part of this is

24:05

cartoonish in a way

24:07

that makes you think that he isn't a real

24:09

person. And yet he's just this fifty

24:11

five year old guy now who I assume lives

24:14

in Florida and goes fishing a lett. But he's

24:16

a real person who does

24:18

exist, I believe. But if you told me all this stuff,

24:20

I wouldn't believe it. Well, there's a joke, a running

24:23

joke in the Always Sunny episode that they're

24:25

doing this in Wade Bogg's memory, because

24:27

surely this man is has died, um

24:30

with with treating his body in this way and uh,

24:32

and Mac keeps reminding Charlie that no,

24:34

man, Wade Boggs is very much alive. And

24:37

then there's a part at the end where they're the whole point

24:39

of the episode is they're trying to beat Wade Boggs record,

24:41

and they've got like hash marks on their shirt for how

24:43

many beers they have, and they're on a commercial fly, which

24:45

makes it even more ridiculous. Uh. They eventually

24:48

get cut off, but on the way back,

24:50

Charlie has like a vision and

24:52

he thinks it's Wade Bogg's ghosts uh.

24:55

And then Wade Bogg's ghost, which really dis hallucination,

24:57

reminds Charlie that he's very much alive. Uh,

25:00

and I believe he remains alive to this day.

25:02

He talked to TMZ recently to kind of

25:04

clear up this whole How many beers was it? And

25:07

he didn't specifically reference to the cross country

25:09

flight, but they just asked him kind of point blank,

25:11

like what's the most beers you've drunk in a day? And

25:13

he goes, probably over a hundred

25:16

and then and then guy was like, how does

25:18

one do this? Wade bugs And he goes, I

25:21

have a hollow leg. I

25:23

just drink it. It all runs down in there

25:25

and then I take it off and dump it out. Which

25:27

is is that a thing? Is that a do? Is that a jokey

25:30

old timey thing? People say, because I've never

25:32

heard that in my life, and that is a weird image.

25:34

Yeah, it's an old it's it's an

25:36

old timey joke, drinking

25:38

like one has a hollow leg. I do

25:41

want to go back to the hunt, which

25:43

I was not aware of. Uh.

25:45

The hippopotamus is

25:47

the most dangerous land animal,

25:50

most dangerous land mammal for sure. So

25:52

it's not like, um,

25:54

regardless of what your feelings are about hunting

25:57

in general. Uh, it's not as

26:00

if hippos are the cute,

26:02

cuddly ballerina's they're depicted

26:05

to be in Fantasia cartoons.

26:07

These things are no joke. They're dangerous. Well,

26:09

Ben, I actually do need to correct you there, because

26:11

it's actually the second most dangerous landman

26:14

animal. The most dangerous is Wayne

26:16

bugs Well

26:18

played playing the most dangerous

26:21

game that is bits drinking.

26:24

So over the span of his we

26:26

we found another like superlative

26:28

for him, right because over the span of

26:31

his time he killed

26:33

like as a big game hunter, he killed

26:36

at least seventy eight game

26:38

animals. Right.

26:41

Yeah, and then like had I believe like a trophy

26:44

room hunting lodge kind of

26:46

situation and his home in Florida

26:48

real Teddy Roosevelt kind of character.

26:50

You know, I like that he's okay.

26:52

So the entire time we've been doing

26:54

this series, I've been thinking of different appellations

26:57

and monikers and nicknames for

27:00

the man himself, right, and

27:03

I feel like hippo hit man is

27:06

one, Like he's the hippo

27:08

hip man, the hippo hit man, Wade Boggs.

27:10

It's crazy that he is alive. It's

27:14

like we can go visit him. And the other funny

27:16

thing is like, because Wade Bugs is not considered

27:18

one of the all time grades, I feel like

27:20

we could, like it wouldn't be out of the question for

27:23

us to get Wade Bugs on, like

27:25

right now. We can make a few phone calls and get him

27:27

on, Like he's not a guy that that there's

27:30

too famous for the Ridiculous History podcast.

27:32

I mean, I'm not saying, Casey, you

27:34

need to do this right now, but like it seems

27:37

plausible that we could get Wade Bugs on the

27:39

next episode. Now. I think if

27:41

I think if we name drop you, that might

27:43

go a long way, Like Hey, we know Matt

27:45

Waxman from Trickeration and he'll be

27:48

like, all right, just send the beer and

27:50

tell me what time to hop on the call.

27:52

Guys, there's a pretty problematic

27:54

quote from Wade Boggs though, about this whole

27:56

hippo situation. The New York

27:58

Post reported on us and they they

28:01

they actually quote um something he said to

28:03

the St. Peter Petersburg Times. He

28:05

you know, he starts off strong like, but

28:07

it sounds like once he gets to the end of this, it sounds

28:10

like he maybe had a few

28:12

at this point because he starts off like he's it's

28:14

been braggadocious, but it's it's on point.

28:17

But then it takes a weird turn. He uh.

28:19

He says, the hippo had killed three villagers

28:21

and the crocodiles had killed two kids.

28:24

So I was sort of the great white

28:26

hunter who came in and saved

28:29

the village. But I mean, it's

28:31

like the whole white savior thing, like

28:33

I was the great white hunter that came

28:35

in. It's just a little cringe e That's all I'm

28:37

saying. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it

28:41

was a little self aggrandizing and sort of

28:43

a weird like white point. Why why bring race into

28:45

it at all? It was a little strange, but yeah,

28:47

strange man. He also said, you know, he

28:50

obviously was not or is

28:52

not because he is still alive. Sorry, Charlie.

28:55

Uh. He was obviously not a big fan

28:57

of animal rights activists. I think later

29:00

this maybe from the St. Petersburg interview, but

29:02

later he goes on when someone

29:04

asked him about the criticism

29:06

he's receiving from animal rights activists, he

29:08

says, these people need to get a life.

29:11

They have their opinion, but don't infringe on my right

29:13

to do something that's legal to

29:15

me. The big thing is in the hippo case, at least someone

29:18

asked him for help. Maybe we take

29:20

a page from the village when we call

29:22

Wade Boggs. I don't know, do we have

29:24

to have a murderous hippo in town

29:27

or can we just ask him on the show? I just don't

29:29

know what else there is to talk about. You think we've

29:31

covered it all? Like I feel like once if you got

29:33

him on, he'd be like, oh yeah, they're like

29:35

those six things he talked about, Like those are the least

29:37

six interesting things. Oh yeah, okay, alright,

29:40

Wade Boggs, in his own words, look for it in

29:42

a podcast feeding here. Maybe we should just give the guy's

29:44

own podcast. You know, I would listen to that, a

29:47

bogcast a podcast. Yeah, that's

29:49

that's good. Well man, Okay, so

29:51

this is uh does this seem like a good

29:53

place to wrap up the Wade Boggs series?

29:56

For now. Yeah, we don't know what he's

29:58

gonna do next, you know what I mean? We, Matt,

30:01

thank you for coming along with us on

30:03

a two part journey into the larger

30:06

than life world of Wade Boggs. Uh.

30:09

We do have to ask you in advance, though, this

30:11

guy's tricky if he does something else, are

30:13

you down to come back and uh and

30:15

make a part three with us? As anytime

30:17

Wade Bugs does anything noteworthy,

30:20

I'm willing and able to do this. So anytime

30:23

you guys call, I'm ready. Whatever Wade Boggs

30:25

drinks a hundred and six beers on a flight, He'll

30:27

be there. Whatever Wade Boggs

30:30

saves a village from a raging

30:32

hippopotamus, Matt Waxman will

30:34

be there. That's all I got. And

30:36

in the meantime, while we're waiting

30:38

to hear more from Wade Boggs, waiting

30:41

to hear more from Wade Boggs, never mind. Uh,

30:44

you can learn more strange

30:46

stories from the world of

30:48

sports on Triggeration, available

30:50

now wherever you get your podcasts.

30:53

Uh, Matt, where would you direct people

30:55

who want to learn more about your work and want

30:57

to learn more about Triggeration in specific?

31:00

Hit me up on Instagram or Twitter

31:02

at Trickerationum, we've got

31:04

a ton of great episodes, all involving

31:06

this kind of total nonsense. The

31:08

tagline for our show is honest Conversations

31:10

about dishonest act So when people

31:12

are lying, which they're altisched, they always are.

31:15

That's the kind of stuff that that we're diving

31:17

into. Next week, we've got a story

31:20

about a fisherman in North

31:22

Dakota who caught the North Dakota

31:24

Walleye Record, which is a fish

31:26

up there, and it turned out there was

31:29

all this controversy around, um, whether

31:31

he actually caught the fish or not, and I interview

31:33

him and UM, it's unclear to me

31:35

actually at the end of this podcast whether or not he's lying

31:37

or not. But UM, i'd love the listeners

31:40

to listen and let me know if they think he's lying.

31:42

Excellent, excellent, So we're going to

31:44

check that out. We hope that you check it out

31:47

as well. Matt. Thank you so much

31:49

for coming on the show with us, not once,

31:51

but twice and maybe a third or fourth

31:53

time. We've got to keep an eye on box. Thanks

31:55

as always to our super producer, Casey

31:58

Pegram, Alex Williams, who posed

32:00

our theme. Big thanks to you, buddy, Hope you're doing well

32:02

on your on your vacation, your your

32:04

walk about um. Huge thanks

32:06

Christopher Haciotes here in spirit, Jonathan Strickland,

32:09

that devious and notorious quizzer.

32:11

We'll get you next time. Who

32:14

else? Ben? Big thanks to our research.

32:16

North Star gave blues Yeah. Big

32:19

thanks of course to Miller Lite one

32:21

more time. That beer is so good you can drink

32:23

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32:26

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