On the July 4th, 2013 edition of Rise Up Radio, John Bush discusses the statist founding of the United States. Did you know that pacifist quakers were put in cages at the onset of the American Revolution for their refusal to participate? Did you Residents in Kings County tried to be neutral and arm in self defense and had martial law instituted in their county by the second continental congress? Don't forget the economic funny business with the creation of money out of thin air and the forcing of everyone to use it through legal tender laws. Turns out the American Revolutions wasn't so libertarian. It was nothing more than changing one set of masters for another!!

Then, John is joined by Kurt Hildebrand, of the Hays County LP, to debate the prospect of no taxes vs. low taxes. John takes the no tax position and Kurt supports the Fair Tax.

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