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abc podcast
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just
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a warning to some out of language in
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so it might not be suitable
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for young ears
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july two
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thousand and seven a ,
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since hong kong return to chinese sovereignty
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sovereignty know we're pushing for npr in china
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i also cover hong kong from time
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to time his status as the son of
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what i now the king is eighty five
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years old he has another
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regent another young man who
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works in advertising services
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replay more
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, the first hand yes yes
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with it and remember my name for
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ten years
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george i'm a tiny stylish
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eccentric wearing sit flat
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perfectly circular spectacles his
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attitude to the king is that of that subject
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to his monique
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i'm just one of the service
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there , a good friend
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in favor friend
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in yeah because and
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maybe some time you mocking with
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him
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meet in the early nineteen
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nineties show was walking
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and munkank in kowloon when he sees
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a crowd at , center
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an old man shirtless sitting
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on an upturned rubbish bins painting
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on a traffic control box to
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stop watches mesmerize
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said said king finishes
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king is another
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bottle not far from not feet
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of the kings doesn't of for it instead
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he calls out think inc
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no one is no
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one but joe
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your friends either and picks
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up the a princess the
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start the start relationship eventually
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to start making
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the humane special mixes that
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a sticky of paint to of the wall
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getting old he was already
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on crutches after his legs were crushed
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in a was taxes and now
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, in a wheelchair he has heart
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problems and when and
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set fire to the ancestor shrine in his
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flat his family moved him
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to a nursing home then
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and nurses ban him from inviting
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the king is beside himself
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the opposite is stopped hanging
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he didn't rider they're worried along with
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a and then he can flip
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where we have seen their mouth
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the nurses down from being
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to does she smells so
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much the other residents complain
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in i feel to the whole hour
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and a backup and as shroud
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red lava that what was assessing
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the i'm the paying why you didn't allow
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me to rise of i'm why you keep
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all my poverty as the frost
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the adding the papers my puppeteer
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spell
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soon shall find the solution
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market pens says
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, king lights on paper instead
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of on the walls sometimes
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his was
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game
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medical that cause the headboard
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of his badge
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if hands are shaking then
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time he forgets how to write those
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only so familiar characters in
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here to earth jones to show him
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the in and out of hospital see
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and co are already thinking
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about his legacy
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i promised him we're going
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to puppies up for for him but
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sit keep talking about us
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soviet both about me
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i'm louisa men and this
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is the king
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the
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he
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did he
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in be on story of sensitize
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and man who imagines himself to
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be a king and got all the people to
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buy into that fantasy he
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called himself called king of talent and
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spent and lifetime defeating
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his family tree across uncles
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wall i began
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a trying to find out if the with any
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truth behind his claims of how those
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and it was assigned was assigned
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do
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one the whole
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power the other people's
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shoes
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the kings the com a cultural icon
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a slice us symbolizing different
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things
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the people
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now i want to know what kind of legacy
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he needs of when i start
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digging and realize i have questions
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about who's legacy it is anymore
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feed
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that the new theory
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that summer of two thousand seven
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chose hard at work on the book
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the , and hospital for the third time
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this time for pulmonary edema from
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smoking one day
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job hop sin bringing a sick leave
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for the kings fine for a charity auction
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it's a small statue about a foot
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tall a copy of one of china's
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terracotta warriors that lemon yellow
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in color the kings in
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green and gray check pajamas he's
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beaming as he signs the sega
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he saw a threat
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than japan and the southern
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it it looked like a says
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very happy and then he told
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me on love doing their thing
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any more specific
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oh me afterwards distill notice
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thing
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the signature is different
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he , signed the king of kalou
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and instead been
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shaky black cat says he's
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listen his we
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name some so try
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i'm not doing the king any
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more he tells show it
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appears the king has abdicated
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his throne i'm
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that the last time job sees
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him allies
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on july fifteen two thousand
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and seven
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read
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eleven days and a nice
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to bite that it mayhem
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and in the founders of
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if you know in the newspapers sons
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and special supplements people
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collective memories one
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, say even suggest the king
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was hong kong true leader he
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writes the chief executive says chief executive
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year term but son so toy with
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the people's king his whole life
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yeah he to the has become
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the king the
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moment co here's the news he
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knows what he has to do
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you
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whoa the kings record keeper is
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our kids
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after i got the news
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and i going to a hospital the path
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other material which belongs
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to solve ah he
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says you have any worse than nests
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omaha fifty them right anymore
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a few days later the funeral
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and that to unfolds in an unusual
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way
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home is
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the made media that there's no coffin
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mid forties know
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moon
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the reporters is struck by the emptiness
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that the seen one describes it as
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cold and desolate the
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all if they're waiting for the family
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but they never allies it
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turns out this is a fake funeral
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a decoys the kings
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wife and children are holding a private
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ceremony elsewhere they
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don't want a fuss and
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guess side so choice finally
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found the legitimacy the craved
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that his family deprive him of a send
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us sit for kings
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that the government does nothing to
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preserve his work on the street y
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twenty fifteen when fifteen go looking
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for the kings characters kings the wild only
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a few p
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one a chimp ha sorry pierre
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but , want to find the others others
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can only young journalism student
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show student nixon
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sneezes it's late and she's helping me
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she's flying high
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the height of a busy road enjoy
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hong pao known we find
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a piece of the kings what and
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electricity box covered with his
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wife
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i'm thrilled
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choice not so much
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why do you think events and , the
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the you even not named him if
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i hadn't tainted hadn't i
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think maybe no ordinary
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nearby find a playground
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on the ping chef public housing estates
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we find enough
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p
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the king messy legacy straggle
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some the lamppost awesome
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houses a lamppost is covered with could
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see through plastic fork again
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this pack no explanation
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join us off a sigh what they say
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oh god
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if you want from me ten dollars to take
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it home defense says about the has
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the money
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are you know what however when i was
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i wouldn't say this taken
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aback
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everyone i've spoken to so far
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have been sounds of the king and
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maybe i've been blinded by my own
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enthusiasm
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later over an ice cream sundae
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i price joyce further i
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, you
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didn't like actually the
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actually
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what mccain and palin when you say
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i , like his style of writing
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against chinese character
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free as
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as as the same hang
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up without any fights
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, as he said calligraphy
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and supposed to be all about harmony the
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report online now
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i'm a minute like
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calligraphy done via a sixty
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allows you to see
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the time assess actually
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if you look at work see
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to supersede eighty six eighty
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seven dollars for ten days is not
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something forty six on how thorough
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right how are , disappointed
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yes please yeah
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she's lack of artistic talents that
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bothers choice you can say he's
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selfish he says retain
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like source says he
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showed a d c area
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hi joyce thinks the
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king might not be famous if it weren't
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for the media they're not a
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lot of local
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in hong kong and
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sometimes i thank you so
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how would throw he thought as
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to pick one who ,
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and will be some notoriety
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that is rock were everywhere
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in hong kong more
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hi
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julie , that someone made
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the team famous famous comes
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up again when we go back out to talk
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to people on the street we
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meet someone who says she's an artist
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she's not him
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the
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and
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ernie i'm having doubts
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maybe the king is simply a creation
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of others people with a vested
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interest vested interest up the value of
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his work one government
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officials certainly thought so her
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name cbt yen and in have
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you he wasn't even analysis
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the new new or creative
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elements to his work she
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, so wrote a paper attributing
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sons fame to steaks and as
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as unnamed stakeholders
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they're most likely the two most recent
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lesions malkin why
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who organizes first exhibition until
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tone his last patron they
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both own siege actions
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of his work he says given
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him things to vitamin like charles
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umbrellas maps is cheese
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that is an argument they created
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those works that much as he
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did it's tricky
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to get the bottom of this because
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when i talk to them it seems they disagree
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on just about everything now
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can why accuses jolla destroying
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pieces as a kings work
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including a huge wall painting
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and fi inform hello
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, time was on the
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following the family
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has a high has proposals
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high then after like
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ten years show her
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father facebook far
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as i'm thinking
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it was a painting now cume why says
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skyscrapers and the words
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aren't is not everything but we need
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it
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the why did he say that
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eagle
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that is a lot of would say see
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i didn't hang said elsewhere
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the did you ask him why he
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had some
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lower hi are you know him that some
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that were angry he lodges a police complaint
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show was phones in a book he
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says is part of part bigger projects
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which he called disappearance
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he's drawing attention to the vanishing
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of the kings work and the city's old
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buildings and traditions the
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means it as a wakeup call to
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hong kong when
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we talk show fires his own accusations
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that allow can why accusing
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him as pathetic as the kings expense
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when selling his works
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the even though have them without god
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he doesn't number fifty thousand the
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first work
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then he just only gave three thousand
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two thing apollo at a city job
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stephen king will cuddle also say
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i'm happy okay
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no idea who is in the white
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maybe , reason even a right to be
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in the only thing that is
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clear the value of the kings
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what just keeps going up fueled
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by both collectors they
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both putting on tribute exhibitions
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and eventually they bury the hatchet to
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do one together occasionally
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, they sell
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pieces as the kings work and
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twenty thirteen adversity covered
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scooter cells per quarter of quarter million
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us dollars
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the king a com hong kong most
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valuable assets
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no dying and
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rising is become a kind of design
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shorthand just greens
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hong kong is fake
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king calligraphy on the hall of the facebook
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coffee in starbucks on restaurant
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if the com
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the paid as usual cliche
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you might that's maybe
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the kings what is meaningless maybe
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, just been swayed by the people i've been
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talking most of asia
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the states in his maybe
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he's just a commodity
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the moment as the king's death in
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, thousand and seven seven
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else was happening to the
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government wants to demolish the seaside
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ps for reclamation projects
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it free
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here and it's way newly arrived
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for she doesn't as class set forth
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in hong kong ancestors
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, to say that they fear
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hong kong colonial history kong
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colonial lost
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the
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the pilot for ten days holding a
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hunger strike chaining themselves
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to raining after the
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kinda ice nice thing to start
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he knew
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gone
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hum the queen remain finally
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please don't have here and remove
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princesses cycle
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one too thin man with
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square spectacle of his interviews
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lying on the pier waiting
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to be arrested his
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name is eddie true
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what about ago man that
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, it isn't or syria
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in preserving our history so stop
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them on them zone starts to hurt
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the heart of on heart of
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this is the first in a series
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of protests in ,
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thousand and seven people try to stop
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the demolition of the street famous for
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printing traditional wedding cause cause
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years two he tried to preserve
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the farming village in the path of the
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well way linking hong kong to china
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first time they fail
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then in
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twelve here i have
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my high school students want
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the government to scrap for physicists
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have feel sick chinese style education
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the thing when in
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september twenty fourteen everything
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seventy nine days uncommon occupy
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street simply places they
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want more
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democracy to choose a chief executive
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me appointed biased selection to me
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homer the mobilizing to protect
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their freedom to
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get the democracies they were
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the
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surprise
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comments as the handed
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be clean and
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no fact the went and i say should
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the know
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the last night of the occupation
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the first stop is a concrete staircase
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near the government headquarters it
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could lenin was and it's inspired
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by wall of protest
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having him to sit notes
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schools with chinese slogans
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these attacks six the king who would
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recognize
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when i get that
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bolland he's a carefully taste
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and down the know to save them
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the same ,
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amount oh no need
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for universal suffrage
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the i'm not
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really because universal see you every
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worth the wait wait
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of see hop around a home with
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me
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across the occupied same
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public art is exploding
21:24
a canopy a flight eight hundred and well
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as as the head see umbrellas
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used by fisher says to protect
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themselves from huge and
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so he me a high wouldn't statue of statue
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man posing man yellow i'm follow
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along
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it like the movement
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hum not peace
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imagination and political
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and artistic
21:46
the gray early morning
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light the bayless survive
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the police are on their way what
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democratic party chair emily now
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she's sitting in the world waiting to
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be arrested
22:00
the only have coming in about
22:02
five minutes and , you
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keep saying saying would
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be infinitely ago infinitely i think
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so because they will come and they would
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tell us the late
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anyway that we will not go away
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and , guess they were some economists economists
22:18
mood and tense fiba
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by nature on
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in law abiding ruffalo
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is now , shops
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in size inside a stubborn principal
22:30
street which is driving them to take
22:32
a stand homeless against
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their will have to sell because
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i'm i'm half ago and
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if you get you get be
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arrested upset that is
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that is what are you
22:47
prepared
22:48
the era yep
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, and i have a feeling that is
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right decision that i'm
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afraid afraid
22:58
pick for me as for me
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item
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in case he won the man who designed
23:05
the kings exhibition heathrow think in
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nineteen ninety seven
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you can still sitting at a table
23:14
by the side of the world phone portraits
23:17
of protesters i
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on him what the umbrella movement has
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done to hong kong
23:23
like a king the red fill in
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the story of the matrix the
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, tell you what's
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that
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i fell asleep in the
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saudi sleep which
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i know it's unforgivable unforgivable
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casey is unequivocal
23:42
everything has changed the
23:44
people of hong kong or now with that
23:46
, the redfield and we will die
23:49
and real realize that that
23:51
not only chinese but we are hong
23:53
kong nice with his stance or and
23:56
be proud of identity for the first
23:59
that's what is moving that's
24:02
, why come
24:06
on
24:07
how a way of
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life this life this war on how true
24:19
by the end of the occupation nine
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hundred and sixty five
24:22
people have been arrested
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on the way home i'm still
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thinking about my crisis of confidence
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in the
24:49
in
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then i realized maybe it
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isn't how illness ness speaks
24:56
to hong kong as yes
24:58
, was a symbol of dispossession
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dispossession found his power in voicing
25:03
his loss in continuing
25:05
his resistance even though
25:08
he knew it was doomed
25:10
and now
25:12
it seems the kings descendants
25:15
a taking off his
25:16
the
25:35
next time on the king of to lose
25:38
the frustration that's been building suddenly
25:41
explodes into master of protest
25:43
after
25:45
all you people were so
25:48
indifferent about politics up the two
25:50
thousand and fourteen them by the muslims and
25:52
for the me with felt so powerful so powerful
25:54
out we are finally back and cruises
25:57
outright
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no again war
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real war will drive into
26:04
this war is war
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on culture if you lose
26:09
and say goodbye to language the
26:11
way of living
26:13
not be higher
26:16
next time on the king
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of calories
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he is created in were thwarted by
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me louise a mammoth casino
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well as well as producer and
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says
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he did you need to
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had had thing is i've awful stapleton
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and essential thank you to
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all
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share stories
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i probably tell him things
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anybody even to this
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day see wow would
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never had any idea
27:20
it on city snow
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i'm journalists matthew condom i
27:27
lived through an era where crime and corruption
27:29
permeated the lives of so
27:31
many queenslanders senior police
27:33
allowing extensive criminal activity to flourish
27:36
undetected really
27:37
receive sexual favors the
27:39
whole state was really in a state
27:42
of doubled
27:42
maybe you've heard the stories before
27:46
but there's another story you might not
27:48
have heard about the sex workers
27:50
who are caught in the middle
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leading [unk] brussel madam surely margaret
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blowing the whistle on senior officers
28:02
massage parlor entrepreneur someones
28:04
idol one of kwame brown but most
28:06
baffling cold cases star
28:09
witness catherine james is
28:11
, the first person ever to going to witness
28:13
protection and the one who's lived through
28:16
it all stars edith not not
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coma or coma the
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sirens was coming a six pack
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podcast series from the ip say listen
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