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1:04

ten, how

1:06

are you feeling? I

1:08

feel great. Outstanding. Ten out

1:10

of ten. I'm getting a

1:13

hard six. We're

1:17

moving, so like the house has to look a

1:19

certain way, but we have four kids and we're

1:21

living in it. It

1:24

goes on the market tomorrow and then we've

1:26

been trying to buy another house. We may have bought

1:28

a house half this size,

1:31

so then we have to remodel that house while

1:33

we're selling this house. So yeah,

1:35

shoot me right in my little wee wee hole. You

1:38

know, you know, you can always not do that. Yeah,

1:45

it's a little too late for that big guy. That's

1:48

why, hey, I'll say this. I'm

1:50

traveling for the next three months, so

1:53

I'm not, I'll be in New York. What?

1:57

Was that? No,

1:59

I didn't say anything. Love

2:01

you Lauren. Love you. Love

2:03

you guys. Hey, my good business.

2:05

I'm doing stuff. Oh

2:09

my god, I love her. She is. You almost

2:12

got in trouble. Yeah, he tried. He

2:14

tried. I'm the

2:16

principal. I don't get in trouble. Oh,

2:18

god. Okay, this is how

2:20

we're starting the episode. I said, bitch. I

2:25

said, you want me to help remodel? I said,

2:29

bitch. I

2:33

just love how you guys have to say that

2:35

so silent. Because you know. I'll

2:41

always have her back. Okay, panic

2:44

at the TL. Put

2:46

this on X today. Okay,

2:49

I'm having a debate. If

2:52

someone says they're going to show up around 7,

2:56

but get there at 7.20, is

2:58

that still considered around 7? Yeah.

3:02

Yes. Yeah. You

3:05

get a 4 minute grace period. 7.45 is

3:07

around 8. Yeah.

3:09

I'm sorry. I'm sorry, what? Yeah.

3:12

You get a 40 minute grace period? I'm saying,

3:15

are we using increments of time? If they said

3:17

I'll be around 7, right? That

3:20

means you could be there at 6.50. You

3:23

could be there at 7.20, around 7. You

3:26

might be running early. You might be running a

3:28

little bit behind, but you'll be there around 7. If you

3:30

show up 7.30 pass, now that's

3:32

a different story. You might want to shoot a tag,

3:34

might shoot a call. Around 7 is 6.45 to about

3:36

7.20. It

3:39

also depends on what city you're

3:41

in, right? Because everything in LA

3:43

takes 40 minutes to get to, but like

3:46

everything important is 20. So if

3:48

I say I'm being there around 7, I'm

3:50

figuring 7.20, 7.30. Might

3:54

as well just be there at 7.30 then. Well,

3:57

let's. When you say around, when

3:59

you say. around you're

4:01

giving a window

4:06

of time. When you could say I'll be

4:08

there at 7 or I'll be there

4:10

at 715. If you say there

4:12

I'll be there around 7, somewhere around

4:14

this time I will be there. That

4:18

is so f-ed up. 720 is around 7 in

4:20

your book. Yes! Yes! She

4:26

said a grace period of 40 minutes.

4:28

You know what could be a- I'm listening

4:30

40 minutes. Once you get to 40 that's

4:33

late. I said set- as long as it's

4:35

before like 720, 725 now you're in the

4:39

730 range. Now you're in the 730 range. Give

4:41

me the 20- Use it in a sentence. Use

4:43

it in a sentence. Like

4:45

yo uh what time does a birthday party

4:48

start? I'll be there uh it starts it starts at 7.

4:50

All right I'll be there I'll be

4:52

there around 7. Oh! If

4:54

you show up at 720 what the f-ck? Yeah

4:56

it's actually I like when people are sectioned off then

4:58

I get to say hello to them and it's not

5:00

a big rush of all the people

5:03

it's easier to talk to them. Yeah.

5:06

What if it was your gathering that you were throwing

5:08

and someone said that they'd be around them and then

5:10

they show up at 720. What's the context? I

5:12

don't care. It happens

5:14

the only time. How many people are coming over to the

5:16

house to watch a fight? We

5:19

are not of the same family. You

5:21

and you walk from house to

5:23

house in Van Werk or

5:26

you ride your Bessie. I

5:29

don't know why that's a dog on

5:31

my hometown though bro. I just got

5:34

there. It's

5:36

in the VA. My family's starting to get

5:38

offended. No they can not. They are they

5:40

should have thick skin after eight years of

5:42

me roasting Van Werk. Speaking

5:45

of thick skin. Have

5:50

you guys cooled off from our conversation our debate

5:52

last week? Yeah what else we got to talk

5:54

about? I was right. Man man

5:56

first of all first of all for

5:59

people that have I haven't been listener

6:01

are new listeners me and him will

6:03

do that at breakfast like about any

6:05

topic You know is it like that's

6:07

nothing new? but we've done

6:09

that a million times in person and then went

6:11

out and grabbed dinner and Argued

6:14

again about who was gonna pay well I'm typically

6:16

it was me but if you aren't aware of

6:18

what we're talking about just go listen to last

6:20

week's episode Really the second half

6:22

were these two decided to yell? Do

6:26

you know the meme where it says? I

6:30

Knew I was wrong 15 minutes ago. I'm just trying

6:32

to piss you off like that's all he was doing

6:34

He knew he was wrong. He was just trying to

6:36

pick you just trying to pick. I'm not wrong. He's

6:38

not gonna win. He should Okay,

6:40

so here's an example Luca

6:44

does this is Having

6:47

an MVP season he's

6:50

not top three right now Because

6:52

of his team it all because of

6:54

his team I'm not saying his statistics,

6:56

but it's also we look at statistics

6:58

and compare them to impact of winning,

7:01

right? The impact of winning that's the that's

7:03

where the statistics where they really kind of

7:05

hit you So that's

7:07

a lot. I agree here every year. There's

7:09

five guys that are having MVP Caliber

7:12

seasons that given different years

7:15

different years and bead would have won the MVP

7:17

He finished second what two or three times? So

7:20

there's a lot of years where he no But

7:22

I'm saying there was multiple years where he was

7:24

having an MVP caliber season when LeBron gets his

7:27

ankle rolled on Like

7:30

he was having an MVP caliber season,

7:32

right? So it's not it's no dispute

7:34

that he's having it from a statistical

7:37

category and in Defensive player of the

7:39

year type season. There's no question in

7:41

that The question is should

7:43

you give that to a player whose

7:45

team is where they are and where

7:47

they rank based off of? Oh, well

7:49

the plus minus we not giving out

7:52

wards because of plus minuses Yeah,

7:54

okay. Well, I was gonna use Russell Westbrook, but

7:57

then I was like cuz their team was

7:59

sick, but he was averaging a triple double.

8:01

So that was like, you gotta, you know,

8:04

it's fine. It's fine. We

8:06

will agree to disagree. We will agree to

8:09

disagree. Okay. Okay. Okay.

8:11

So when it comes to, we'll agree to

8:13

disagree. Do you have a topic that you

8:15

want to discuss, Jani? Do

8:20

you have one that you've been sitting on? Because I

8:22

asked Rich this same thing too. So if

8:24

you have one. So my

8:26

two things are this, right? One,

8:29

everyone, and I didn't know the

8:31

full context, but like

8:34

last game, Shagiel just SGA,

8:37

right? He foul and then

8:39

got that KD record, right? I

8:42

forgot what that situation was. But like,

8:45

you know, you think of the guys who, um, Oh

8:48

man, what was Ricky? He played on the

8:50

cafe, threw himself the ball off the backboard.

8:54

Ricky Davis. Yeah. Right.

8:56

So like, so was it like most point with the most points

8:58

of like 25 in a row? Yeah,

9:01

I think it was something like that. Right. So

9:03

for me, those types of awards

9:05

or, you know, people are like,

9:07

well, Luca is just looking for a stats and

9:09

he wanted this, he wanted that. And

9:12

I was really like, do

9:15

we forget that David Booker had

9:17

70 against the Boston team that

9:19

shut down in the third quarter

9:21

or like a lot of

9:23

these crazy stats are in the

9:27

close games. Like maybe

9:29

Donovan Mitchell is the most points I've

9:31

seen in a close game ever. I

9:33

agree. I think some of the, some

9:35

of the best performances LeBron had 50

9:38

in a finals game and a loss.

9:40

Then Jordan had was a 61 and

9:43

a playoff game and a loss. So I

9:45

think sometimes we talk

9:47

about how big the numbers are and don't

9:49

necessarily look at how they got

9:51

there or the results. And what

9:54

is my point is, are you like

9:56

as a player and now on this

9:58

side, do you care? that

10:00

he's still looking for that extra point that

10:02

he's like quote unquote that padding

10:05

or are you like man do

10:08

this on another game? No,

10:11

I don't mind There are actually some NBA

10:13

player current NBA players that are not a fan of

10:15

that. No, there are actually there are many

10:17

but Understandably, so but I

10:19

also remember boxing out. So jk could get

10:21

another rebound. I remember shooting a shot So

10:24

Josh remember shooting a shot so jk could

10:26

get a 10 to 6, right? So

10:28

like these are things that have gone on

10:30

well past like

10:32

like My our

10:34

generation of basketball. I don't think it's

10:37

to the degree in which it's done

10:39

today But it's always happened

10:41

and even then you still got to put

10:43

in a shit ton of work for me

10:45

I'm saying that's that padding if you're like

10:47

25 or more for 15

10:49

straight games and you want that and

10:52

you foul one time So you can get the

10:54

24th and 25th shot. I'm okay with that because

10:56

you put in work for two straight months I'm

10:59

okay with doing that the staff padding for

11:01

some like little and again, it's still stop

11:03

padding However, you want to call it? I'm

11:05

not disputing that but I still believe that you

11:08

know Russell Westbrook how he got the MVP There

11:10

was some staff padding me. There were days. He

11:12

was only one rebounding, right? And that's

11:14

because his teammates wanted it for him and he

11:16

went and did the freakin work. I There's

11:19

no disrespect to what rest it has done

11:21

and then he proved it wasn't a one-year

11:24

thing It was multiple years dude six six

11:26

what three? averaging

11:28

double digit rebounds No,

11:31

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11:33

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14:00

Speaking of Donovan Mitchell, obviously

14:03

you know and you've heard the latest surrounding

14:05

him right now, correct? Yeah. In

14:07

terms of and we've talked a lot about the 65 game

14:09

mark. He's missed his

14:12

18th game now. Should

14:14

he be penalized? Again,

14:18

a idea spawned by the league's

14:20

campaign against players resting while healthy

14:22

enough to play. And he

14:25

better listen. Number one,

14:27

that's a lot of money and he was having a

14:29

killer year. Top five,

14:32

top five NBA scoring average career highs

14:34

and rebounds and assists. You

14:36

think of the leader, what he's done

14:38

for a third. I mean, Richard talking

14:40

about impacting winning. I love her heated

14:42

calves. No, I'm backing up your point

14:45

of like, I love the guy on the Mitchell

14:47

his game. Love it. This year I thought he

14:49

really stepped up. Yeah, I

14:51

think he's improving. I think he burst

14:53

on the scene as a rookie and

14:55

won a first round playoffs series. So

14:57

he's been on this and then was

14:59

given the team and went

15:03

to the playoffs every year. They

15:05

culminated in the number one

15:07

seed, but that team it kind of

15:09

max out and dude was too easy. He's

15:11

26, 27. Dude's

15:14

been, I'm just saying it's like Donovan Mitchell

15:16

still has a lot of room for growth. Very

15:18

similar to like Jason Tatum. Just because Jason Tatum

15:20

has been on the scene for so long.

15:23

Yeah. Doesn't mean that Jason Tatum doesn't have

15:25

a bunch more to grow. Right.

15:28

And that's a, that's a compliment. Scary. If

15:30

he can get 10% better in the next five

15:32

years, that's scary for both of those players. Yeah.

15:36

Can you make a case for it? How do you make

15:38

a case for it? How do

15:40

you make a case for it too? In a

15:42

situation when obviously, you know where the calves are,

15:44

the position that they're in with the postseason and

15:47

how valued the postseason is. Oh, you

15:49

just, you just give it to them. No, no. When

15:51

I say this is that you just say, Hey, look, I'm trying to, I'm trying

15:54

to win. I'm trying to make a playoff run. Right.

15:56

He knew the day was coming. He's not, he knew. So

16:00

then he just accepts the fact that he is

16:03

ineligible now for NBA honors in any kind of award. They

16:07

signed it. They signed it.

16:09

And let's be honest, for every

16:11

year that we were talking shit about

16:13

Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and A.D.

16:16

Those dudes have been healthy and

16:19

putting out crazy numbers and they've done what they've

16:21

had to do. And certain guys just, it's just

16:23

going to happen every year. So it's going to

16:25

be a new conversation of Joel

16:27

Embiid within the MVP and then Joel

16:29

Embiid. They're going to change it.

16:31

They're going to change it because now you look at

16:33

Joel Embiid. You don't know

16:36

how long Karl Anthony Towson is going to miss. Oh

16:38

man. You don't

16:40

know like Donovan Mitchell. And

16:42

again, we still have time left to

16:44

go in this season where there's still

16:46

some guys that might be hovering. Tyrese

16:48

Halliburton. Right? So now all of a

16:50

sudden, this is where it messes it up

16:52

a little bit. No

16:54

disrespect. If you make all NBA, you are

16:57

a badass man. If you make all NBA,

16:59

you're a badass man. But let's say there's

17:01

three or four extra guys that

17:04

make all NBA that might not have made

17:06

all NBA before. What are

17:09

they going to look for? What dollar amount are they going

17:11

to look for now? They're going to

17:13

look for, I made all NBA. I don't care. I

17:15

played 72 games and I was

17:17

healthy and I did this. I

17:20

want that all extra. And it's like now

17:22

you open up another bit of the Pampadors

17:24

box where you might get guys, instead of getting

17:26

the top 15, top 17 guys,

17:28

you start looking further down. As

17:31

in, let's say top 20

17:33

to 30 now have options

17:35

now for getting that

17:38

hit all NBA over the course of their contract

17:40

and getting the Supermax. Supermax

17:45

is the number max. There's still a range

17:47

that you can do in between. So that's

17:50

what I'm saying. Now you get those guys that are starting to look

17:52

for that. Are we really

17:54

going to give X

17:57

this number because he had no disrespect? Let's

18:01

go back a few years. Let's say a guy like Chris Middleton.

18:04

Chris Middleton hits 13 all NBA. And

18:07

what if he's not asking for the Supermax,

18:09

but he's asking for damn near. No

18:12

disrespect again to you get a Tobias

18:14

Harris number. Right?

18:18

Where it's like this number is elevated. He's

18:20

still a very, very good player, but

18:22

is he at that cap space? But

18:25

if they're in that contract space, what else can

18:27

you do? So that's where I think they're going

18:29

to end. You know, other

18:31

guys might make the money. Incentives are

18:33

going to be hard to get nowadays.

18:35

Cause a guy, he might have to

18:37

have a breakout year and just be

18:40

one good year and be right there

18:42

on the constant make third team all NBA. And now

18:44

he gets an extra 3 million and

18:46

that goes against the team's cap or, you

18:49

know, think about studio. Oh

18:51

shit. Guess what? Because

18:53

four or five dudes got hurt and

18:55

they need centers and forwards. Now

18:58

you got a guy like, you know, I'm not

19:00

going to say like a non

19:02

all-star guy who's going to

19:04

make all NBA. How about that? I

19:07

think that's the best way to explain it. I'm

19:11

trying to think of a player who's really, really

19:13

good. Who,

19:16

you know, possibly can make an all NBA

19:18

that in other years, cause Joel Embiid is

19:21

now out. Jared, I like.

19:24

You know, yeah, again, like a Jared Allen. He's

19:27

a great example. Very good player,

19:29

very good player. Yeah. But

19:32

there's probably outside

19:34

of the, the yellow kitchen,

19:37

be honest. Like he's in that next tier of

19:39

center. He's in that next tier of big men,

19:41

right? It's a big gap, but I'm saying he's

19:43

in that next tier. If like, if you have

19:46

him, you're set at center for the next 10

19:48

years. What do you think about

19:50

Porzingis? I mean, he's got

19:52

a little off and on Porzingis. No, but yeah, those

19:54

are the guys. Those are the guys that all of

19:56

a sudden their value can get jumped up. So. I

20:00

don't know how to cap works. I'm not going to play that

20:02

game. I'm just saying is that These

20:04

guys signed the deal and a lot of people

20:06

said it was not a very good deal And

20:08

now you're starting to see we just saw how

20:10

big the in season tournament was And

20:13

I believe it was draymond that was like yo weren't they

20:15

supposed to get a million dollars per player? And

20:17

you saw how much value that added to the

20:19

league how much ratings went up on the league

20:22

It was a huge success for the

20:24

league huge success They're gonna be

20:27

able to sell this shit out of that lakers

20:29

do all the work lebron gets it That's why

20:31

when they were talking about possible a million dollar

20:33

prize That number should have been a million in

20:35

my opinion Especially looking back on how well it

20:37

wins and all the stuff and all the buy-in

20:39

that they got and the player

20:41

should have gotten a million I'm not gonna complain

20:43

about what they got. But yeah, that was like

20:45

a million dollars for the tournament. Yeah Another

20:48

player, um within all of these awards

20:50

like dana micha. I forgot about this

20:52

one jimal murray Oh And

20:55

a couple of those games That's the other thing too

20:57

a couple of those games because you have to play

20:59

65 games of at least 20 minutes

21:03

And he fell below and I think

21:05

three of those games minutes wise It's

21:07

like nine minutes 10 minutes 14 minutes because he

21:09

got injured and

21:11

so you think about Someone like him

21:13

as well. I had an unnamed coaches

21:16

that they were gonna start playing guys 20

21:19

20 minutes and then just taking them out to that

21:21

game with count you mix those games in Where

21:23

it's like, you know Yeah, again

21:27

Yeah, i'm not i'm okay with

21:29

resting players to a small degree

21:32

You get a guy and you want to give him one

21:34

day off and he's at high usage rate The

21:37

wrestling that was going on for

21:39

non all-stars on sub on on

21:41

sub playoff teams. That was absurd.

21:43

It was disgusting Yeah

21:49

The NBA targeted all-stars the NBA

21:51

targeted all-stars if i'm not mistaking I

21:53

want to stick on this denver I

21:55

was looking for the tweet that

21:58

I saw yesterday denver conversation Is

22:00

it more impressive that they're completing the

22:02

comebacks or to your point

22:04

that they're down? I think

22:06

they're playing with fire personally

22:09

that you can't Obviously,

22:11

we've been on some teams where we've got

22:14

down and we're like, ah, here we go Let's

22:16

just turn it on and I think that happens But

22:19

once that starts to become because as

22:21

many games as you play that becomes

22:23

your practice. They're not practice

22:25

That team is practicing. Not really. They're trying

22:27

to stay healthy. We try to win a

22:30

chip So they won last

22:32

year you're coming into the season. They got

22:34

off to a great start They're

22:38

now they're feeling good. They're

22:40

healthy The all of a sudden

22:42

they're playing these teams and they're like, we can

22:44

just turn it on you do that one time

22:46

Yeah, we can just turn it on we could do it

22:48

two three four five Now it's

22:51

starting to look like a habit when you get in the playoffs,

22:53

you know, like and we could turn it on You

22:56

there ain't no just turning it on in

22:58

the middle of a game like that It's

23:00

rare and it's rare to do that four

23:02

times maybe against Toronto or You

23:06

know a regular season

23:08

Lakers or Charlotte or what

23:10

well, but to do that

23:12

consistently is a little scary No,

23:15

I I agree. They're champions.

23:17

So I don't I don't necessarily

23:19

worry about them but there

23:21

should still be a question of Why

23:24

are you down 20 that many times I would

23:27

say this if you're a good team You

23:31

should be Figuring out how to

23:33

play from ahead Right, like that is

23:35

that is set you you need to be setting the

23:37

tone and it sounds like you know

23:39

If if just from the 20 point comeback scoring that

23:41

an all-time high so you could be up 20 down

23:43

20 That's like 10 points 10 points

23:46

used to be 20 is the new 10 Are

23:49

you 10 10? It's a new no

23:51

20 is the new 10. Yeah, you're right, right? Yeah,

23:54

20 is the new 10 So

23:56

I you know 20 point comeback. I kid you

23:58

not I've watched four games with

24:00

my boys and it was, you

24:03

know, 20 something to this. And I was like, Oh,

24:05

no, no, there's still plenty of time. Plenty

24:08

of time. Plenty of time. We

24:11

see them in the fourth quarter. We've seen players

24:13

outscore teams in the fourth quarter. Yeah. Yeah.

24:16

I just don't think Denver is taking

24:19

the attitude. We need to beat

24:21

the crap out of them and then sit in the fourth

24:23

quarter. They're like, let's chill at

24:25

the beginning of the game, feel

24:27

our way around. And then, Oh, we'll just turn it

24:29

off. Which is

24:31

dangerous. No, we know, we know that

24:33

there's the fuck around and find out teams. We

24:36

know that we know that we were one of them. We

24:38

were one of them and both,

24:40

both years. The second year was

24:42

probably worse because we knew

24:44

we could do it and we knew, we knew

24:47

what it took. I think Denver is in

24:49

that mold. Um, I, again,

24:51

of the teams that I question Denver,

24:54

Denver is probably lowest in the

24:56

top four for obvious reasons. Okay.

24:59

Speaking of top four Minnesota cat,

25:01

obviously surgery to repair a torn

25:03

meniscus earlier this week, he's expected

25:05

to return, um, come

25:07

playoffs. T-wolves 45 and 21 buying for the top seed in the

25:10

West. We talked

25:12

about the top four seeds last week, actually on here.

25:14

Do you think they are a top four without

25:16

Carl Anthony? No. Yeah. Yes.

25:19

No. Yes. Take

25:22

a side go. I'm saying no.

25:25

I think again, I

25:28

have not seen them

25:30

have extended success. And I watched a lot of

25:32

that Clippers game. Anthony

25:35

Davis is special for David Godley. Anthony

25:37

Edwards is special. Anthony

25:40

Davis is special. He's very special. Right. Very special. But

25:43

like, I don't know if I

25:45

can rely on that during

25:47

the playoff. I

25:50

think moving now is Reed is

25:52

a starter on 28 of 30 themes,

25:55

right? I was maybe

25:57

27. When

25:59

you. don't have somebody big you can rely

26:01

on off the bench to give you that

26:04

versatility. Like during the regular season,

26:06

yes, I think you can win a bunch of

26:08

games. In the playoff, if

26:10

you can't even go seven, eight down the

26:12

bench, we're like, how much

26:14

are you playing slow-mo? How much are you playing some

26:16

of the other guys you got off the bench? Like

26:19

they're not really playing like that. So you just gonna

26:21

play six? That's gonna wear

26:23

down on a young team. I

26:27

see your point. I think

26:29

because you have Nazri, because

26:32

you have Nazri, it allows them to fill the

26:34

hole for a little bit, right? It allows them

26:36

to kind of plug that gap just for a

26:38

short amount of time. So everyone

26:41

was like, why do you sign Nazri? You got

26:44

all this money in your front court and now

26:46

all of a sudden Nazri's had a great year.

26:48

Yeah. Good. You know what I'm saying? And he's

26:50

doing that while the bigs have been primarily healthy.

26:52

So I look at it from the standpoint. They've

26:55

got what, 15 games left? Right, so he's

26:57

got, let's say the meniscus is maybe they remove

27:00

it. He's gotta wear a brace. He's out

27:02

six weeks, right? So he's basically out to

27:04

the start of the playoffs. So

27:07

if they

27:09

do play consistent,

27:12

right? They just play consistent and they

27:14

do, right? Anthony Edwards is their best

27:16

player. They still got Rudy Gobert. They

27:18

still got Mike Conley. They still got

27:20

McDaniels. They still got slow-mo. They still

27:22

have such a deep roster, right? That

27:24

like, yeah, losing an All-Star is going

27:26

to hurt them. But ultimately they're young

27:28

enough. They're a fiery enough team. Like,

27:30

I think that they can hold down

27:32

the fort and stay in that top

27:34

four. It's not like Joel and B

27:36

leaving the 76ers. Dude, that's

27:38

a lot. It's not like Kyle and Burton

27:40

missing 20 games, right? Even the reason

27:42

why the Cavs can withstand Don and the

27:44

Mitchells is because they still have an All-Star

27:47

in Garland. They still have an All-Star in

27:49

Mobley. They still have a very, very good

27:51

young player in Mobley. And

27:55

then they got Jared Allen. So what I'm saying is

27:57

like collectively they still have. And then look, it's still.

27:59

still taking half court shots from Strus

28:02

and from Wade, it's taken some crazy

28:04

games, but they've held down the fort.

28:06

So I think Minnesota, they

28:08

looked good last night. They

28:10

looked like the defense that Edwards

28:13

was playing, like it was

28:15

just it. Here's the thing

28:17

though, they're not, they don't lose a step

28:19

defensively without Carl Anthony towns. That's just the

28:21

numbers. And I know it hasn't been a large

28:23

sample size obviously, but

28:25

offensively is where you've

28:28

lost. The production goes down. Yeah, yeah. Because

28:30

even when the production is going to go

28:32

down, yeah, they're going

28:34

to go down, but you're not

28:36

asking, you're asking Anthony Edwards, Nas

28:39

Reed, McDaniels, Conley to up their

28:41

offensive like production

28:43

for another month.

28:47

That's what you're just asking. And you have

28:49

Nas Reed that just fills in there and

28:52

does very similar things like, you know, shoots

28:54

the ball, can guard out on the perimeter,

28:56

right? So you almost had seven threes against

28:58

the Lakers the other night. That's

29:00

what I'm saying, Nas Reed is good.

29:02

Nas Reed is a very good player.

29:05

So that's what I'm saying, you can up it. He's a

29:08

B minus to Carl Anthony to Carl

29:10

Anthony town A minus. We were just

29:13

having a conversation about this the other day and not to

29:15

write LeBron away by any means, but obviously as we

29:17

know in season 21, age 39, how

29:20

many years does he have left? He's still

29:22

the face of the NBA. We agree

29:24

with that. Yeah. And

29:26

beyond can Anthony Edwards be

29:29

the face of the NBA? Without

29:31

a doubt. Yeah, he can

29:33

he can based off his production.

29:35

But look we were talking

29:38

earlier. We're all old and

29:40

I the canning's old enough to remember once he

29:42

stops moving his camera. Channing's

29:44

old enough to remember when

29:46

Jordan retired. So look Magic

29:49

Johnson and Larry Bird. They were the face of the

29:51

league. Save the league. They were the face. They

29:54

carried the NBA. No one

29:56

asked who was going to carry that next

29:58

torch when because they Jordan. was there. They

30:01

knew that, oh, it's about to be his time.

30:03

Like he's that dude. Very similar to Patrick Mahomes

30:05

when Tom Brady was on his way out. You

30:08

were like, oh, well, this kid is

30:10

the future. Right? So they didn't have

30:12

that. They didn't have like, with Jordan,

30:14

you knew. They didn't know

30:16

after Jordan, everybody was the next

30:19

Jordan. It was Kobe. It was Grant Hill.

30:21

It was Harold Meiner. It was Harold Meiner,

30:23

baby Jordan. It was like all of these

30:25

guys who was going to be next because

30:28

there was no face. And

30:30

then you got the Alan Iverson, the

30:32

Kobe Bryant and the Shaquille O'Neal. Those

30:35

guys really carried the league in

30:37

my opinion from like an outward

30:39

facing space. Fast

30:41

forward, when LeBron came,

30:45

everyone was like, oh, it's him. No

30:47

one asked who was going to be the face

30:49

of the league when Kobe retired. Right?

30:51

Because it's very similar to Magic and

30:53

Larry. There was already

30:55

that person was there. It was Michael Jordan.

30:58

Very similar to Kobe retiring. That person was

31:00

already there with LeBron. Now we're

31:02

asking that question. Now

31:05

we're asking that question because no one's

31:07

here. This hasn't been, this

31:09

hasn't happened since Michael Jordan retired.

31:13

Isn't that funny? Michael Jordan and LeBron both retiring and

31:15

everyone's going to go, what the fuck are we going

31:17

to do next? So

31:19

this is the first time that we've seen

31:21

this. And there are guys, but it goes

31:24

back to when Jordan retired. No one had

31:26

established themselves. Patrick Mahomes established himself before Tom

31:28

Brady retired. He's

31:31

the next. You

31:33

know, LeBron, LeBron established himself before Kobe

31:35

retired. I don't know if any of

31:37

these kids and our young men want

31:40

that responsibility. They may say they

31:42

do outwardly. They don't want that.

31:45

Right? After being around LeBron and

31:48

seeing how he has to live. No,

31:51

thank you. No fucking thank

31:53

you. Like they, let's

31:56

be real and I'll start with Luca. Luca.

32:00

There's no person in the way to chimp. They're

32:03

not talking about his legacy. They're not gonna say,

32:05

oh, he hasn't won a chip in his first

32:07

five years. There's no pressure on him like that.

32:09

He's not a chosen one. SGA,

32:13

you exceeded expectations. You're an

32:16

MVP candidate. Everything to

32:18

have this is whatever. There's no

32:20

expectations. You know what's the

32:22

most expectation? Whimby. Whimby

32:24

does. More than any other,

32:26

more than Jason Tatum, more than Yokex, more

32:29

than MB. More than

32:31

any other. But you know why, Channing?

32:34

You know why. You know why. Because

32:37

he's fresh. Why is, no, the

32:39

why is because none of

32:41

the other guys have taken the mantle. No

32:43

one else has taken that mantle. You gotta

32:45

come in this league ready. The

32:48

same thing that Patrick Mahomes did.

32:50

What did Patrick Mahomes do? When? He

32:54

showed up and went to, what,

32:56

four, five straight conference finals. How

32:59

many Super Bowls? He got three. First back to back

33:01

Super Bowls, then two. Tom

33:03

Brady and the Patriots. Okay,

33:05

so what's that window like for Whimby? How

33:08

long does he have to prove that he

33:10

is back? He's on the clock. He's on the clock. The

33:12

NBA is on the clock. Oh,

33:14

he's on the clock. LeBron was on

33:17

the clock when he showed up. Okay,

33:19

okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. LeBron was on the

33:21

clock when he showed up. There, I get it.

33:23

Dating all the way back to high school. I

33:25

understand that. Having said that, he didn't make the

33:27

postseason his first year. So is that what we're

33:29

saying for Whimby? You have this one

33:31

year, if you're not in the post, like

33:34

I'm talking about the layers of being on

33:36

the clock and what that means. Well, I'm

33:38

saying if we're talking about the face of

33:40

the league, it's not statistics. It means you

33:42

show up and you have a profound impact

33:44

on the court, off the court. You are

33:46

winning. You are Derek Jeter. You are Patrick

33:48

Mahomes. You are one of these guys that

33:50

show up and you fucking

33:52

win. And we have not

33:54

seen anything like it. Whimby has the talent.

33:57

Even when LeBron first came into the league, wasn't

34:00

this six foot nine and a half

34:02

behemoth. He was six

34:04

foot seven and change and

34:06

and 230 pounds and he grew into a fucking grown

34:10

man that no one knew he's going to be

34:12

as tall as big as strong as fast. No

34:14

one knew that it was work. It was all

34:16

the other things. I say all that

34:18

to say is that people throw

34:20

around this face of the league. Like

34:22

it's just who's going to be the

34:25

next best player. It's far greater than

34:27

that stuff is the place and

34:29

they know Stefan. It's like Giannis

34:32

has won multiple MVPs won his

34:34

championship. You wouldn't call

34:36

he's one. He's one of the guys but you wouldn't

34:38

call him the face. Same with Yokich. You wouldn't call

34:40

him the face. You know, it's a great example. Tim

34:43

Duncan is one of the most

34:45

winningest players ever to play basketball,

34:48

right? Good dude.

34:50

Quiet. One team

34:52

guy. Middle America was

34:55

not the face of the league. Didn't want no parts

34:57

of as much as it is winning

34:59

is as much as it is.

35:02

You put this league on your back when

35:04

you go out into the media in the

35:06

public and you represent the

35:09

other players to build up our

35:11

game. Yokich just wants to

35:13

come play basketball, go back to

35:15

his country, go home. He

35:18

no complaint. No complaint. That's fine.

35:21

Anthony Edwards is still figuring

35:23

out who he is, right? And how hard

35:25

and he talks about it. When he was

35:27

on the Olympics, he was like, I didn't

35:29

know that stuff worked out that hard and

35:32

you're like, yeah, motherfucker. Like, this ****

35:34

is different and so he's learning and

35:36

he's twenty-two. So, there

35:38

is time but at the end of

35:40

the day, it's not just about

35:42

winning. You know, it's the most

35:44

important thing. It's also about the

35:47

visual. It's also about how you

35:49

speak. It's also about how

35:51

people perceive you. It is almost

35:53

half as political as it is

35:55

basketball wise. Bron

35:57

is. Yeah, people are. People are. People

36:00

are throwing it around. People are throwing it around.

36:02

No. As if it's just

36:04

you come in and you're a very good

36:07

player. No,

36:09

man, it's so transcendent. It's

36:11

so transcendent. It is so

36:13

like, the names,

36:15

it's Russell, it's Bird, it's

36:19

Magic, it's Jordan, you know?

36:22

It's Kobe, LeBron, like

36:24

there are just certain names. Are we gonna be able

36:26

to just say Edwards? So it's

36:28

fair to say, no it is. No,

36:31

we might in six years. We might in

36:33

six years. But I'm saying, that's where we

36:35

have to get. We have to just be

36:37

able to say one word and people know,

36:40

grandmas and great grandkids know who the

36:43

hell we're talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

36:46

Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm

36:48

saying, yeah. Vin, Vin, what? Like,

36:51

yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, we're on the

36:53

same page. I just

36:55

think people throw it around like it's not just the best

36:57

player in the league. Like there's other guys

36:59

that have been the best player in the league. LeBron

37:01

hasn't won an MVP since he was in Miami, right?

37:04

He hasn't won an MVP since he was in Miami and

37:07

he's been the face of the league for the last

37:09

15 years. So

37:11

it's like. We have to say, we don't know who the next face

37:14

is. Exactly. We'll think about this. That

37:16

is what we're saying. The reason why

37:18

we're asking is because for the first

37:20

time since Michael Jordan retired, there wasn't

37:23

a defined next person. Kobe

37:28

hadn't established that yet. Shaq

37:30

hadn't established that yet. Yeah.

37:34

So it was like there wasn't a defined. This is scary. What?

37:38

It is scary. For the media, scary for

37:40

the league, it's scary. This is one of

37:42

the very few transitional face. Michael was there

37:44

when Magic and Larry moved on. They gave

37:46

him the mantle. Larry, our MJ held the

37:49

mantle and then everybody was like, what the

37:51

fuck are we gonna do when this guy

37:53

retires? And then Shaq

37:56

and Kobe came. They figured it out. Then

37:59

you know. But Shaq and Kobe were the face of

38:01

this league for years. Even

38:04

think about a guy like D Wade. D Wade

38:06

showed up, won a championship in his third year.

38:09

He was one of the guys. He was one

38:11

of the guys. Now, was he able to elevate

38:14

to the Michael Jordan LeBron status? No,

38:16

but he was one of those guys

38:18

where early on you're like, well,

38:20

fuck. Just

38:22

do one championship in what, his third

38:24

year, fourth year? Think

38:27

about- Wanna find MVP? Think about

38:29

how good Steph is, and

38:31

he's not the face of the league. Ah,

38:36

Steph, Steph is not D face.

38:38

Totally. But it's Steph and LeBron.

38:40

I would say it's LeBron and

38:42

Steph and everyone else. That's why

38:44

they're confirmed that if LeBron was

38:46

going to retire and Steph was,

38:48

if this was 2015, Steph, everyone

38:50

would know, oh, it's his next.

38:52

Okay, I'll give you that. Right?

38:55

But LeBron and Steph looks

38:57

like they're going to go out

38:59

within- At the same damn time.

39:01

At the same damn time. That's

39:03

like Magic and Larry. Magic and

39:05

Larry going out scared people, but

39:08

Jordan was already there. Yeah. Great

39:13

conversation. Moving on,

39:15

having said that, here we go again. Kawhi

39:17

Leonard left

39:19

the game last night against the T Wolves

39:21

with back spasms. He has played in 58

39:23

of 64 games this year. It's

39:28

been as healthy a season as a clipper. They

39:31

ended up losing though by 18 to the T

39:33

Wolves after leading

39:35

57-35 in the second quarter. Then

39:39

obviously you lose Kawhi. Do

39:41

you think that when you hear

39:44

this, I don't know about you guys, but when

39:46

I saw it on the internet last night, on

39:48

Twitter last night, Kawhi leaving the arena, barely moving,

39:50

obviously dealing with the back spasm. Uh-oh.

39:53

Is this a turn for them? No. No.

39:55

You better shut this shit down. No,

39:58

it's bad. No, come on, guys. Your back is out

40:00

of your body. But I'm saying, if

40:02

you played 58 of 66 games, you

40:06

might have back spasms. You

40:08

might wake up one day after a long

40:10

flight to Minnesota and slept wrong, and he's

40:12

not young anymore. It's different when it's knee

40:14

pain. It was in LA. But I'm just

40:16

saying, it's like, good point. But

40:19

I'm just saying, maybe you had a long flight

40:22

back from someplace else. My point is

40:24

more of back

40:26

spasms to some people. Like, oh, OK, we

40:28

just need to rest you for a little

40:30

bit. Back spasms go away in three, four

40:32

days. It's just we didn't say that he's

40:35

in traction. It's not

40:37

like back surgery. He just had back spasms.

40:39

And if you're playing a lot, you're putting

40:41

a lot of wear and tear, shit's going

40:44

to happen. I don't view this as anything

40:46

like alarming. I

40:48

got back spasms at the All-Star game. I

40:51

will tell you this. Dude, I went

40:53

to go pick up my wine luggage, and it got

40:55

jostled. And then I had to sit on a plane

40:57

for 3 and 1,000 hours. Dude, I

40:59

had to go to a chiropractor at the

41:01

airport because I couldn't stand up right. So

41:04

I get how he's feeling, and Richard makes

41:07

great points. I'm not worried about

41:09

it. I think what Kawhi

41:11

has done, and to know T. Lu

41:14

for as long as I have, which is not that

41:16

long at all, I could say, he

41:19

goes, now that I said that, you

41:22

would say this. You

41:24

would say, hey, Kawhi, don't. We're

41:26

fourth right now. We're good. If

41:29

you need two or three games, let's

41:31

make sure that you're coming back perfect.

41:33

You've already shown us that

41:35

you are roaring ready to go.

41:38

The clip is back. Back

41:40

spasms to me is wearing

41:42

tears. My sprained ankle is

41:44

bad. Knee inflammation is bad.

41:47

Back spasms, that's just like mother of you

41:50

old and you little tired. That's all that

41:52

is. You're not even old. And

41:54

they're in fourth, four

41:56

games out of seventh. So

41:58

they're. They got. They

42:01

got a little bit of a cushion. Two games ahead of New

42:03

Orleans. Yeah, but look,

42:05

they're in Minnesota is right above them. Half

42:08

a game. Yeah, so you're like

42:10

dog. In third, yeah. Minnesota is going

42:12

to trick away some games. Yeah.

42:15

I agree. Okay.

42:18

Changed my mind. Thank you. You're welcome. For

42:20

the end of the show, Magic Head

42:22

Coach Jamal Mosley, shout out. Congratulations

42:26

to you, Jamal, signing a four-year contract

42:28

extension. How much? Takes us to the

42:30

2027, 2028. How much? We

42:34

pocket-washing. You guys are taking them down, and

42:36

I don't want no vegetarian food either. I

42:38

don't want none of them waffle sprouts, boats.

42:40

Yeah, you don't need... Yeah. Because

42:42

of all that vegetarian food, he runs circles around

42:44

the both of you. True. I bet. That's

42:46

not the standard. When we buy this dinner,

42:49

we want a steak. Steaky. Yeah.

42:52

Dude, I cannot wait. How much you making?

42:54

What was the deal terms? You're so...

42:57

I'm curious. Put it in business,

42:59

though. I wasn't looking it up. In Orlando, we

43:01

know taxes. They don't know how much we make.

43:03

Huh? They don't know how much we make? I'm

43:06

saying they know how much athletes make. We're

43:10

trying to hide the coach. Oh, really? Contrast. I don't...

43:12

I just didn't put it in there.

43:15

Hey, he getting that tax free too

43:17

in Orlando? I see

43:19

he gonna be at Iowa work soon, I know it. Extension.

43:26

Oh, yeah, they often don't report the money. That's

43:29

why I'm telling. Yeah, just says four years. Oh,

43:32

and then you're having me over here looking for it.

43:34

Ellie, you need glasses, girl. Why?

43:37

I have contact. Oh, color

43:40

contact? Weirdo. No,

43:42

you wish. These are my natural eyes. I have the one

43:45

eye that's like green and blue. No, you don't. Ellie, I've

43:47

known you for 10 years. No, you don't. I'm sorry. I

43:49

don't have green and blue. It's the one where I

43:51

have green eyes with the hazel dot like the

43:53

one actress. I'm never that

43:55

close to actresses. Have

43:57

you ever noticed that about me though? Nope. Good. All

44:00

right. Who's here? What?

44:03

I said, hey, he's new here. Are

44:06

the magic on the right trajectory? I feel

44:08

like they are. Having said that, can

44:10

you build as a

44:13

title contender around Paolo and

44:15

Franz Wagner? No. I

44:17

wish they had one more top. They

44:19

could get one more top five pick. They

44:22

can get one more top five pick. How about this? Give

44:25

me the... Let's

44:28

say you have the magic and

44:31

you could pick any... No one intended. You

44:34

could do a little magic on the magic. Could

44:37

you imagine, I would like to

44:39

pair a guy like Paolo with

44:41

a guy like

44:44

Jalen Brunson. Right? I just

44:46

don't think they have a true... If

44:49

they can get an all-star

44:51

level guard and some shooters,

44:53

Paolo is going to explode. I

44:55

think Franz is great. I

44:58

think that they are a bit repetitive

45:00

at what they do. One of them

45:02

needs to... How about this? How

45:04

about this? How about this? Let

45:07

me give you a counterpoint. Are they

45:09

the front court version of

45:12

a young Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown? Yeah,

45:16

but... No,

45:19

because neither one of them can shoot. Right?

45:22

Consistent. Neither one of whom?

45:24

And Paolo are not good three-point shooters

45:26

where Jason Tatum came in... But I'm

45:29

saying they're still young. Let's pull up

45:31

the numbers. I'm not disagreeing with...

45:35

I'm just saying that maybe the

45:37

formula is different. You're right. They

45:40

need a guard. They need some guards. Right? They

45:43

need some guards. And I'm not saying that they don't have

45:45

young, good guards. Right? What I'm

45:47

saying is that if you're talking about an

45:50

all-star guard with two big... They're repetitive, but

45:52

Paolo guards wing. Right? He's

45:55

not just guarding fours and fives. Like he's

45:57

like a... He's a three-four. Like a... I

46:00

would say he's kind of don't beat me up, but he's kind

46:02

of like a Carmelo. So Franz

46:04

20 points a game,

46:06

six boards for assists, shoots

46:09

30% from three. This

46:12

is sure a lot of them. He's good,

46:14

very good. To

46:17

your point, I can give you those numbers. He

46:20

attempts five

46:25

a game. He's

46:27

two of five, one and a half makes on

46:30

4.9 attempts. That's

46:32

right. Keep him honest. That's a keep him

46:34

honest. That's a keep him honest. But

46:37

I'm saying he's still young. If

46:40

he gets that up to 35%, right? His

46:45

averaging 23 a

46:48

game, seven boards, five assists, shoots

46:50

36%. Wait,

46:52

that's what he's saying. What is he saying? So six, maybe six.

46:55

No, but I'm saying. I'm not disputing that

46:57

they need to shoot. He's one point five on

46:59

4.2 attempts. So what I'm saying is that he's

47:01

top looking at himself up to 38. Yeah.

47:05

38, 39. And

47:08

Wagner can get himself up from whatever

47:10

to 34%, 34%, 35%, right? So

47:16

I only say that to say is that

47:18

they are still so young where you could

47:20

see those increases in their game. So if

47:22

you have two good front court players like

47:24

that, like rebounding,

47:26

assisting, doing everything, they're actual matchup nightmares because

47:28

you put a big on them and the

47:31

motherfucker just go right by them, do all

47:33

that shit. You put a small on them,

47:35

they go in the post. They're both big,

47:37

strong and physical and aggressive. So they are

47:40

both matchup problems. So I'm saying is that

47:43

those two guys, could you build around them?

47:45

I think if you had a loaded roster

47:48

like

47:50

Boston does, I could see in three, four

47:52

years them being a version of Jason Tatum

47:54

and Jaylen Rand. You told me Paulo was

47:56

averaging 28 and Franz was averaging 23.

48:00

And you know what I'm saying? Like I could see that. You're already

48:02

a top five defense. Dude, they

48:04

are so big. In person,

48:06

all their whole team is big,

48:08

but they're all big. OK, here's,

48:10

I said this before, you

48:13

know who I think is an immediate help

48:15

that is probably not

48:17

going to leave anywhere. If Clay

48:19

Thompson was on the team, I

48:22

think it would help them immensely. Leadership,

48:25

shooting, consistency, moving what

48:27

else the ball, just

48:29

his ability to play the game. Now

48:31

I'm saying in theory, in

48:34

theory, obviously, he's a little

48:36

older, but a player that can move

48:38

around like that, that's generally a two

48:40

way guard, but that can shoot

48:42

the shit out of the ball and just get them

48:45

to play four and five once or twice. They're

48:48

very similar to OKC, in my opinion, where

48:50

they're ahead of schedule, because these guys

48:53

are really good. They're ahead of schedule.

48:56

They don't have as much depth, because don't forget

48:58

OKC got a pick and got

49:00

a second round pick. Or I already had the

49:02

number two pick and check from the top. So

49:05

it was like they were, and they have all

49:07

these assets. Orlando doesn't have the amount of assets,

49:10

but I'm saying is that they're ahead of schedule.

49:13

And I think these dudes, the

49:17

key thing is you got to keep them together for three

49:19

to five more years. And that's the part where

49:21

it's like you got to tinker, you got to

49:23

figure it out. But

49:26

yeah, if you just say, oh, we got a two year

49:28

window, these dudes are both like, Paolo's in his second year.

49:32

Second year averaging that. Come

49:34

on, man. Come on now. He's

49:37

huge. Like he's a big

49:39

boy. Yeah, big old dude. That's what I'm

49:41

saying. He's like Carmelo. Like people don't understand

49:43

how big and strong and physical Carmelo would

49:45

play. And I

49:47

think USA basketball helped him a ton. Oh, a

49:49

ton. Yeah, USA basketball helped him a lot. I

49:52

honestly hope they bring him back. Yeah,

49:54

you could tell from the defense, from

49:56

the intensity, from the every day, like

49:58

you and the team. you

50:01

get some criticism. They didn't play great.

50:03

And so you recognize like there's criticism

50:05

that's gonna come from being on that

50:07

stage. I think that's valuable for young

50:09

players to understand. Paulo goes to USA

50:11

basketball, does well, learning, picks it all

50:13

up, playing with these great players,

50:15

seeing work habits. And then next thing you

50:17

know, you guys don't play great and there's

50:19

criticism. That's very similar to going to the

50:21

playoffs, not playing well and losing, you know,

50:23

being up to one and losing the playoff

50:25

series. That should stay with you and motivate

50:27

you. And I think you can, but it's

50:29

also positive to learn that like, oh shit,

50:32

with this type of attention and intensity and

50:34

playing this way every single night. Can the

50:36

mind have been around? Right

50:39

now it's the Knicks and Magic. Nah,

50:41

they're not with it that way. They're

50:44

not with it that way. Nah, the Knicks, if the Knicks

50:46

are healthy, if they don't have

50:48

Julius Randall, I think they can. And they

50:50

don't have Julius Randall. If it's Brunson, if

50:53

it's Brunson, Hart, Haughey,

50:56

and OG, and I

50:58

think they can win that round without Randall.

51:00

Because Randall can negate some of the physicalness

51:03

and he's so strong and physical, he can negate

51:05

from Frans or from Paulo. I

51:08

think that kind of offsets one of them. But

51:10

if it's those two physical boys, and Brunson will

51:13

be a stud, I don't dispute that. But, you

51:15

know, they got bodies to throw at Brunson too.

51:18

Jamal, see all these guys do you? They demand a steak

51:20

dinner and then don't even pick you to render when a

51:22

ball is a play-out. I said, yes. Yeah,

51:25

you got to check already. You

51:27

said Julius Randall's not, you

51:29

said with, you said no. And Julius

51:31

Randall's not out there, yes? No,

51:33

I'm saying, I didn't think it was that round.

51:35

You read about that. You

51:38

guys, I was just kidding. We know they took

51:40

a picture of them. And Gary Gardiner held them

51:42

boys last night. I'm not picking Paulo on them

51:44

yet. They are ahead of schedule. Having said that,

51:46

it is that time of the show. Give us

51:48

your top players from last week. These are our

51:50

Under Armour Game Changers of the Week, which players

51:52

or coaches impressed you the most. Dan,

51:55

you're going first. Sit

52:00

on earlier, but the Denver Nuggets

52:02

and ninety one I were have

52:04

high as a cases, but embassy

52:06

like Dude, you're not a wonder

52:08

cook. Like. They're. Just rolling

52:11

on all cylinders in the one thing

52:13

that I appreciated like. They. Don't

52:15

get enough credit for their young player development.

52:17

Their young guys come not the best. Are

52:19

making. Veteran. Pro

52:22

player play and and not like you're

52:24

getting twenty points that's not their job

52:26

with they come in and have seen

52:28

goes gonna think they'll run eight or

52:30

run and when you watch the looks

52:32

just math match that goes on comes

52:34

to go pretty deep down their roster.

52:37

Good guys are contributing so. The. Denver.

52:39

Yeah, you know I was leaning towards

52:41

our guys for the tray. Ah,

52:43

brats I think Tray Murphy in The

52:45

Pelicans. They're playing well. I just thought

52:47

I thought. Yeah, he, ah

52:50

ninety. They're playing well I think for

52:52

a young player. And. To

52:54

be you know, have ya an injury and

52:56

have to deal with that and then try

52:59

to regain your rhythm. I think it took

53:01

a little bit. The way he plays well.

53:03

they play well. Ah I was watching. Ah,

53:05

I'm. Ah, the hook

53:08

collective child or when horse. Arm

53:10

and ever to start talking about the numbers. That.

53:14

When he plays well vs

53:16

when. When. He plays well versed

53:18

in their team and it's like his

53:20

fifteenth big, his fifteenth best games their

53:23

fourteen and one and in any nine

53:25

worse games they're there to and seven

53:27

and he's been playing well and again

53:29

those numbers are purely made up. He

53:31

was something along those lines. jobs yeah

53:33

I'm really has no no no no

53:35

it was something. I was something along

53:38

those lines my my will now at

53:40

to Two Guys it's and paraphrasing. Ah,

53:43

And. So. Know when you look

53:46

at that I think he is a player

53:48

that was making those jumps. And I

53:50

think he's only going to get more consistent as

53:52

the season goes along. And as we go into

53:54

the policies, I think he's gonna be more consistent.

53:56

So not like the falcons. I like what they're

53:59

doing. They're also another. team that needs

54:01

to win around in my opinion Cleveland

54:03

needs to win around I think

54:06

that in one second hopefully road-driven game changers a

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54:10

change the game curry 11 future curries are available

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54:14

needs to win around no I think Cleveland needs to

54:16

win around the

54:19

most person to leave the who needs to

54:21

win around is fucking Cleveland is not even

54:24

close yeah okay but that's fair

54:27

that's fair but who's second that's why I'm trying to think

54:29

who else is in that space are

54:31

you kind of want a minute no

54:34

King the Kings oh

54:37

but I mean they're not awful they're

54:40

not great but they're consistent the bonus

54:42

is having a career year like but

54:44

everyone's like okay it's just the King

54:47

which is crazy I mean

54:49

oh I

54:52

want to know your biggest I want to know

54:54

oh I think they're going there I'm so

54:57

much like final yeah I want to know your

54:59

biggest threat to Denver biggest threat

55:10

clippers so

55:12

great clippers

55:15

are one how

55:17

about a healthy Sun's team yeah

55:23

but yeah right now

55:25

I trust I weirdly this is this

55:28

is a compliment I trust

55:31

the Clippers being healthy down the stretch right

55:33

now more than I do the Phoenix Suns

55:35

the Clippers have had more health this year

55:37

not traditionally but

55:39

this year so if

55:41

you were to ask me which team do I think is

55:43

going to be healthy enough to make it through

55:46

and to do I think I'd right

55:48

now I would say the Clippers they Got

55:50

the bodies. they got the perimeter. they got the

55:52

depth they got. all they can play different styles

55:54

they got. Lots of guys are not dependent on

55:56

one or two, even if two of their guys

55:58

have an off. They got Dwight

56:00

Powell zoo bought them with the mob

56:03

coffees than playing well. You.

56:05

Know you got here. It's man so I do

56:07

think they've got. They've got guy that can lift

56:09

up. If one or got wire to

56:11

the Geiger having an off night or it's your

56:14

Paul. George is struggling a little bit too. I

56:16

found my at the not light are Norman found

56:18

my. Hit a bunch of threes.

56:20

You. Know and just carry on through a first half way.

56:22

I forgot to game. Just. A little bit

56:25

ago were Paul George had two points in the

56:27

first half. Into when.

56:31

You know it's crazy an existing them

56:33

I. Play.

56:36

Of Dallas I say coups Denver?

56:38

who's gonna guard? look? Is

56:41

my question. And then again, I'm

56:43

Alice. Is your biggest threat to Denver? I.

56:45

Would say sleep or fit. To.

56:48

Death to Denver I just

56:50

a stylistically. They. Both play

56:52

through one player. Bright. Is

56:54

Ember doesn't have an answer for Luca? A

56:57

look at different in a playoff. In

56:59

Dallas doesn't have an answer for

57:01

yogis, but they do have to

57:03

read big men that are athletic,

57:06

energetic, and. I would say

57:08

would take on that sounds so they

57:10

are loaded not loaded. They are deep at

57:12

that position where work to be. Her

57:14

question was who the biggest threat not? who

57:17

is the sleeper. Say

57:19

like I can't let you guys saying

57:21

that. I

57:26

don't really see a bipartisan when I agree with

57:28

me and the Clippers user when I agree Me:

57:30

as odd as the ago I tried to give

57:33

you your well let Philadelphia healthy fellas. Let's.

57:37

And was s how many accies

57:39

will a brawn James get when

57:42

it's all said, and. Done

57:44

every. You.

57:46

Think he'll get a sassy with the Lakers. Yeah,

57:48

Stop it. Stop.

57:51

Gap. as his career where

57:54

to and. Right now.

57:56

Yes. Yeah. Without.

57:58

Winning another title, We. We

58:01

gotta set. You get older. they'll catch you

58:03

with the Lakers So hear me out. Hear

58:05

me out. You win a championship. He.

58:07

Will Finals mvp. He when the

58:09

first ever in season tournaments he

58:11

break the scoring record and you're the

58:14

first score Forty thousand points all

58:16

in the Lakers uniform. Fuck outta

58:18

here. And put that statue

58:20

up for that man. Hopefully they I

58:22

felt people's names right. As

58:25

hot as a Jose Calderon

58:27

would help others live. Good

58:30

amount of funny that you can't

58:33

wipe out. Now.

58:35

They'll just of them. Were announced that

58:37

they'll just replace that size of it's

58:39

not like one Hope you see somebody

58:41

They're just like Signal better with yeah.

58:44

Okay say that. Really think that is any get on with

58:46

a look. At All. Although things again, he led

58:48

the league in assists. Flaky, Did

58:50

a bunch of things in my opinion

58:52

like does he have the five championships?

58:55

the that not now But when you

58:57

look at what he did in a

58:59

where we now six years, six years

59:01

stress. Yeah

59:03

with Brent. Yeah, they are so in

59:06

a six year stretch. The

59:09

answer The question. Is what

59:11

type of unnatural exit places? I know

59:14

you, The Lakers. I know if the

59:16

Bronx. If

59:18

you want to save any player.

59:21

right? Okay, that's a key. Goes to

59:23

fix. It. He went to sit in

59:25

his first six year. Great. Goalies

59:28

record. And then with fire

59:30

you think Phoenix is not going to get

59:32

him? As a separate.

59:35

Seven. And Phoenix isn't

59:37

cynics, isn't the Lakers? Let me say

59:39

one less than one last thing. When.

59:43

We say Why? lasting. He

59:45

pick them. He picked

59:47

the Lakers. He. Chose them. So.

59:50

Have you want to send a message

59:52

to all of the great free agents

59:54

that you have gotten as shack? Pick:

59:56

the Lakers Left Orlando Pick the Lakers

59:58

right when you start. looking at this.

1:00:01

You want to look looking

1:00:03

forward to all of the great players

1:00:05

over the next generations. If you pick

1:00:07

us and you succeed,

1:00:10

this is one of you can be immortalized.

1:00:12

Now that's not for every player that that's

1:00:14

not for every player that

1:00:16

is for that is for the

1:00:19

select few that you can

1:00:22

be a part of this greatness. You want

1:00:24

to send that message to the next windy.

1:00:26

If you pick LA right?

1:00:29

If you do that, this is what you

1:00:31

can get. This is what can

1:00:33

be there. So it is not only just for

1:00:36

now, it's for the legacy and no

1:00:38

different than people are coming and we know

1:00:40

this to be truthful. While this might not

1:00:42

have been the best days of his career,

1:00:45

while he might not have been you know

1:00:47

young LeBron in Cleveland or Miami, people

1:00:49

will come see a LeBron statue. People

1:00:53

will that's what I'm saying.

1:00:55

It's like he is he's not to

1:00:57

LA what Kobe is to LA but

1:01:00

he is to the game of basketball

1:01:02

like very few people are and

1:01:05

have ever been. So

1:01:07

you put that up there. He is he is immortalized

1:01:09

as a laker great. His

1:01:12

jersey is going to be up there. Oh yeah.

1:01:14

His jersey is going to be retired in three

1:01:16

places. You guys both agreed that Kyrie should have

1:01:18

his jersey retired with the Cavs? Yes.

1:01:21

Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh

1:01:25

yeah. Not yet. You

1:01:27

win the first championship and hit the biggest

1:01:29

shot of all the time. Stop it. Aldridge.

1:01:33

Chaining I cannot with you. We're ending on this. Aldridge.

1:01:37

Curry. Herden. Mo

1:01:40

Supp. Griffin.

1:01:45

Durant. Irving. What

1:01:48

do they all share? No

1:01:52

idea. Hold

1:01:54

on. Hold on. Hold on. Durant.

1:01:57

Aldridge. Don't

1:02:04

they have like more than 20,000 points or something

1:02:06

like that? Telling

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your kids the 2021, 2022 Nets had all of these last names on

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one team. It's

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going to be wild to look back on. Yeah,

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they were loaded. I'm talking about West Side

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Strand. Oh, shit. I wasn't even thinking about

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that. I had a strand of sprained ankle.

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Should have, could have, would have. Isn't

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that wild? No, but you know what's crazy

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too? And I know that the Phoenix Suns

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aren't as good, aren't as good, didn't have

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as much. But it's like we're going to

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just gloss over the fact that Kawhi, like

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James Harden and Paul George are

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playing together. Or Devin Booker, Bradley

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Beal and Kevin Durant are playing

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together. I understand it's

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not Brooklyn. There was more like sub

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talent. But if we're talking about top

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three names and they got Russell Westbrook on the Clippers.

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Like that's what I'm saying. Like people want to

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shit on the Nets for that understandably so. I'm

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not even coming to the defense of the Nets.

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I'm just merely saying is that we've got some

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other groups of guys that are

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together that when we look back at it, we're going

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to be like, yo, what the hell? No,

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that is fair. I

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hear you. They're like the old school rockets

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with a team, Barkley and Bippen. Yeah.

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What? Yeah. Yeah.

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Wild. All right. Go move

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all your houses. Bye. Richard, thanks

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for being on time today. Thank you.