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Buddy Games Recap. And

2:39

we are so honored because

2:42

tonight is a historic night.

2:45

Because tonight

2:46

is the night

2:47

in which Buddy Games officially

2:51

became part of the CBS

2:53

pantheon of reality TV. Tonight

2:57

is the night Buddy Games became president. Here

3:00

with me to talk about it, our prom

3:02

queen, it's Jenny Autumn. Jenny, how are you?

3:05

Oh, I wasn't going to say

3:07

that I would be prom queen. I was almost

3:09

questioning whether Devi would call me a

3:12

podcast hoe. No,

3:14

no, that's not the case. I'm

3:18

just wondering. Jenny,

3:21

I'm ecstatic. I'm excited.

3:23

I am thrilled. I am angry.

3:26

I am mad. I am

3:28

everything. Buddy Games, you did this

3:31

to me. I have all the feelings. You

3:33

did it, Buddy Games.

3:35

Who knew that this would

3:37

happen, that Buddy Games would

3:40

make you feel things

3:42

and like,

3:43

you know, a full range of emotions.

3:46

Like you

3:48

know, there's so many other CBS

3:50

reality shows coming out. I

3:53

know, Buddy Games is the big guy tonight. I

3:58

tweeted this out.

3:59

earlier today that Buddy

4:02

Games Episode 3 is

4:04

one of the best reality TV episodes

4:07

of 2023. You and I didn't talk about this

4:09

before we came on, but do you agree or

4:11

disagree?

4:12

I thought it was great. I thought it was great. I will say

4:15

it definitely

4:16

delivered a lot

4:19

more in the back half. I will

4:21

say I felt like I

4:23

wish the prom

4:25

was a little bit more apocalypse than...

4:29

It was prompocalypse for somebody.

4:32

It stoked a flame that

4:34

eventually grew and gave

4:37

us what we wanted. So I can't

4:39

quibble too much. I just was hoping

4:41

for a little bit more drunken debauchery.

4:44

I mean, Rob, you're still thrilled

4:47

about this. No one was hooking up.

4:49

Nobody was hooking up. Everybody was fighting. There was

4:53

so much drama. It was so good.

4:55

Devon A, my strategic queen, she delivered. I

4:57

don't even know,

5:04

Jenny, what change.org petition

5:06

do I need to be working on? Because I really thought,

5:09

bad job by Josh Duhamel, bad

5:11

job Buddy Games that you should have sent

5:13

her to Redemption Island. Keep her

5:16

on the show. She was your star.

5:19

No

5:19

edge of extinction here. Meanwhile, Chris Underwood

5:22

is running wild on the challenge. Nobody

5:24

can stop him. That's true.

5:26

But here's Debbie, who says, Buddy

5:30

Games, get on my back.

5:32

I got you. She

5:34

is the star of Buddy Games and

5:37

she is unceremoniously

5:41

outed by, first off,

5:43

let me tell you, here's who's on

5:45

my crap list today.

5:48

Three names. Number one, Yoli.

5:50

Number two, Lauren. Number

5:52

three, Lourdes.

5:55

Tomato, tomato, tomato. Bring Debbie

5:57

back. Change.org. Hey.

5:59

Siri, open a change.org petition.

6:02

Put Debbie on the challenge.

6:05

Get her back. Find

6:07

her, get her somewhere because this,

6:10

what happened here is these four

6:12

women got on this show

6:16

and Debbie said,

6:19

she built this team. She

6:21

literally did. According to her, she's the reason

6:24

all of these people came together. And

6:26

she said, I'm going to give you good effing

6:28

TV. What does everybody want?

6:31

Exactly. And apparently

6:34

the rest of her team did not want the kind

6:36

of good. No, we're here to play the

6:38

middle on buddy games. We're

6:40

here. We're here to like, just

6:43

blend in and be wallflowers on the buddy

6:45

game. Is that even the spirit of buddy

6:47

games, Jenny? And I do apologize. I

6:49

may be a little over caffeinated at this particular

6:52

moment, but I'm so fired up. No.

6:55

What is the spirit? This had

6:57

me questioning. What is the spirit of buddy

7:00

games? I think you're supposed to fight with

7:02

people, right? So

7:04

I have to tear buddies apart. Is

7:07

that what happens in the movies? Because I've not seen

7:09

the movies. Is there, is there fighting?

7:12

Because Josh DeMalle said at the,

7:14

at the end of this episode,

7:16

he said, I told you that, you

7:19

know, this was going to test friendships,

7:22

which I, maybe he did say that. I

7:23

don't remember that part. Um,

7:26

does he want them to fight? Is, is it

7:28

just a side effect of, of doing

7:31

challenges with people that you're friends with? I,

7:34

I just don't really know, um, what

7:36

Josh wants

7:38

from these people. Does he want them to leave closer

7:40

than ever? Does he want them to fight? I

7:42

don't know what he wants. Yeah. I think it is the ultimate

7:45

test of, you know, what, what buddies

7:47

can can go through ultimately.

7:50

Okay.

7:51

Um,

7:52

that leads me to another question in

7:54

that

7:55

I think we maybe discussed this in one

7:57

of the previous podcasts. Do we believe

7:59

that? These four people were

8:02

actually friends. No, I do think that

8:04

Debbie put this team together

8:07

and got them on Buddy Games. But

8:09

I think ultimately, like these women may

8:12

have, you know, known each other for maybe a couple of

8:14

years. I mean that there were some shots

8:16

of a but they're these are not lifelong friends.

8:19

And like do you think that they're just part of like

8:22

some sort of US pageant Facebook

8:24

group or something? And like they this is maybe

8:26

the first time that like the four of them have even spent time.

8:29

No, because there I mean there was like some shots of

8:31

like Yoli was crowning Debbie

8:33

before. But I do think that's the

8:35

common thread. Debbie was the common thread

8:37

and Debbie I think was the person who like

8:40

saw the ad for Buddy Games and

8:42

then ultimately like put

8:44

this team together and then

8:46

I think she drafted the squad. She drafted the

8:48

squad. But ultimately

8:50

like this was like a coup. They

8:52

overthrew Debbie. Yes,

8:55

it's wild. It's like it's like when

8:58

you know you bring a bunch of friends together

9:00

and then they they start

9:03

talking and they start hitting it off

9:05

and then they realize that they like each other

9:07

more than they like you and then off

9:09

with your head, you know.

9:12

So a very wild

9:14

sequence of events, but it

9:17

the reality of and this is this is

9:19

a challenge with like teams of people

9:22

on reality

9:22

shows when they know each other in real life.

9:24

There's always going to be people that

9:26

pop. You know what I mean? There's always going to be someone

9:28

where it's like this is why these people got cast

9:30

like they were the one that they wanted. No offense

9:33

to the other people, but it's just like not everyone

9:35

is made to be on reality television.

9:38

And that is why there are some people on

9:40

this cast that I know their names and

9:42

some that I'm still figuring out. And

9:46

clearly that was I mean, I definitely

9:48

know the rest of the pageant Queens after this episode.

9:50

It was a big breakout episode for the rest of them.

9:53

But Debbie

9:55

is the reason you know what I mean? Like

9:58

she's the reason she is the reason. in

10:00

for everything and that

10:02

I just hope that Debbie

10:05

sparked something that really

10:08

makes the rest of buddy games

10:10

pop because I'll be honest buddy games one

10:12

and two was a little slow we look okay

10:15

I put a little bit better but episode

10:17

three was phenomenal and

10:19

it is 100% because of the contributions

10:22

of Debbie my strategic queen

10:24

I don't speak for you every

10:26

show send her

10:28

to Bravo send her to the

10:31

challenge send her to the traders season

10:33

three she's so good

10:36

if this is what she accomplished

10:38

in three episodes of a of

10:41

a television show that is also supposed

10:43

to be about friendship and camaraderie

10:46

like

10:47

I have no doubt

10:49

in what she could accomplish in other

10:52

show had this house eating out of

10:54

the palm of her hands

10:56

and their whole team didn't even know what was going on

10:58

they hated they hated

11:01

her so much they hated her cuz they ain't

11:03

her and they were honestly I yeah

11:07

they were hating they were they were jealous it's

11:09

a big week for the haters Rob big

11:11

week for the haters and

11:13

honestly I was hoping that somebody else like the whole

11:16

rest of the team was gonna quit or they were gonna have like

11:18

some twists where then she could have joined

11:20

another team why not put her on Philly

11:22

forever someone

11:25

you imagine the

11:28

look on Lordess's face if

11:30

they would have said guess what new

11:32

person coming back on the team there's a new

11:35

member of Philly forever they

11:37

should have mutiny right like that should

11:39

be that should be an option here where it's

11:41

like hey I

11:44

think that the team I'm on we're

11:46

we're not do we don't have the

11:48

sauce and I know

11:51

that you

11:53

know we're gonna lose a losers

11:55

last stand at some point and I'm on

11:57

I am on you know the

11:59

chopping block if that happens

12:02

and I want a mutiny to

12:04

another team where I think that I

12:07

have a better chance.

12:08

And they should have that as an option. We

12:10

need more Twit. I can't believe...

12:12

Taren Armstrong somewhere is

12:15

absolutely disgusted by the statement.

12:17

But Buddy Games maybe needs some more Twit.

12:19

I know that Taren is probably very concerned with Twit.

12:22

I know. Look, Taren is like,

12:24

look, Buddy Games that there's

12:27

too many...that needs to be for the

12:29

integrity of the game. You got to keep it.

12:32

No Twit. The players will play scared.

12:34

We have the Twit. But come on! Taren

12:38

would have absolutely agreed with Lauren's...which...this

12:42

is the thing. Lauren's strategy

12:44

of let's not attract too much attention

12:47

to ourselves. This is... Yeah, this is

12:49

Buddy Games. We need to play the middle. We

12:51

can't go after the curve ball on Buddy

12:54

Games. Yeah. And

12:56

that's the difference between your Lauren's

12:58

and your Debbie's. Lauren

13:00

is ultimately trying

13:02

to play to win. Debbie

13:05

is trying to play

13:07

to

13:08

win an opportunity on another

13:10

show. Can I give you my hot take here,

13:12

besides all my other hot takes from this podcast? Okay.

13:16

If the pageant queens

13:18

had not gotten the

13:20

curve ball, okay? If

13:23

Debbie did nothing, pageant

13:26

queens are still in Losers

13:29

Last Stand, still in the bottom

13:31

three, still lose the competition,

13:34

okay? They got to pick their opponents.

13:37

They got to pick all of the matchups, and

13:39

they still lost, and they still

13:41

came in last in Losers Last Stand. So

13:44

no matter what, at least Debbie

13:46

was giving them an opportunity. Was like, okay,

13:49

let's go against the team that only has three people. Yeah.

13:53

And I think we should talk about the curve ball, because

13:56

I understood

13:58

where they were coming from. from before

14:01

they found out what the curveball actually

14:03

was to be like, this

14:05

is not attention we need to draw on ourselves.

14:07

We don't need to be targeting

14:09

another team and having them come

14:11

back pissed off at us. Like this isn't

14:14

something we get the whole

14:16

buddy games lodge coming for

14:18

us. But, and which I

14:21

can understand that. And

14:23

you, it, you know that this is

14:25

not an unreasonable argument because

14:28

literally every other team did

14:30

not want the sabotage, which

14:33

is why everyone kind of came together

14:35

to make sure that the pageant queens

14:37

got it. What ended up happening

14:40

is that it was not

14:42

so much of a sabotage as it

14:44

was just an advantage.

14:48

I think because

14:50

you're not purposely

14:51

screwing over one particular

14:54

team with this curveball.

14:56

You're just setting the matchup.

14:58

Right.

15:00

So it, but, but the damage

15:02

was done at that point. You know what I mean? Like the trouble

15:04

was brewing long before we, and we

15:07

saw this coming in previous episodes.

15:09

There was talk of like, you know,

15:11

Debbie's like talking to people and

15:13

like, she's kind of like trying to make alliances

15:15

and we're not really into that part. We knew that

15:18

this was already starting to bubble.

15:20

So I do think that

15:22

you're right and that they probably would have

15:24

ended up in loser's loss stand no matter what. Yeah.

15:27

And Debbie actually is trying to save

15:30

the team, not hurt the team.

15:32

Sorry. Sorry, Lauren.

15:36

You're number one, Debbie, the vendor.

15:39

Yeah. I am devoted to Debbie.

15:41

I'm a Debbie devotee.

15:44

Get the hashtag, Debbie

15:46

devotee. Get that mergers ready to

15:48

go. Let's get it going. She's

15:51

the best person on the show. And I'm frankly,

15:53

I'm a little, I'm a little angry that she's

15:55

gone. No, it's, it was so

15:57

hard because you know, the, the That's

16:00

a little bit. Can't do the six piece puzzle.

16:02

Have I been this up? It is

16:04

upsetting because I watched

16:07

the episode unfold like a slow car crash

16:09

because, you know, we knew where it was going.

16:12

We knew ultimately where this was going.

16:15

But I was like, no, we can't lose

16:17

her yet. No, but also had

16:19

winner edit. She did deliver

16:22

like because she was going to go.

16:25

We did get the best episode of the season.

16:28

So it's like, but

16:30

what I'm worried about what cost Thanos. I

16:33

got the best episode of buddy games of

16:35

the whole season. What did it cost? Everything.

16:38

Where do we go from here now? You

16:40

know what I mean? Like I

16:43

will present to you though. I know

16:45

you're down. Listen, you said you announced

16:47

your your crapless. I believe you called it

16:50

of Yoli, Lauren and Lourdes.

16:54

Did you watch the preview for next week? I

16:56

think that I think that Lauren maybe

17:00

could be moving. Okay. You will

17:02

have room in my heart, but don't be

17:04

boring.

17:05

Yeah, don't be okay. And

17:08

of her like Lord,

17:09

don't make us board.

17:12

Is okay. You know what I mean? Lauren

17:17

don't be horrible. Yeah,

17:26

this I'm hopeful

17:28

that because it's everything

17:30

that Debbie said is correct. And

17:33

you know, these are

17:36

pageant hoes and

17:38

they're not nice girls. Yeah, we'll get there. And

17:41

if this is true, there

17:43

will be another target. They

17:46

will find issues

17:49

with somebody else. If this if

17:51

we are to believe in Holy Hope from

17:54

Debbie that she was not the problem here, then

17:58

there will be someone else will become.

17:59

The problem for them and

18:02

so yeah, there's like a scene in the next episode

18:04

where Lauren I think she's talking to team

18:06

pride and says that she feels like they played them and

18:09

and Josh said enemies will be made so

18:13

Josh you better not be lying to me because

18:15

I hope we didn't peek tonight Yeah

18:18

And so that we had gotten

18:21

advanced screeners for buddy

18:23

games from CBS and we

18:25

appreciate that and they said it was interesting

18:27

because they had sent out three

18:30

weeks of Buddy games screeners,

18:33

but you know, I we didn't watch I

18:35

didn't watch ahead I watched them like

18:37

okay that when we were when we got to the

18:40

weeks, but they send out three which I thought was interesting

18:43

I think they knew that Basically

18:46

buddy games does not arrive

18:48

until episode three. Yeah,

18:50

it's the first act like okay All right,

18:53

give it give it three weeks. Okay, this

18:55

was it. This was it I'm just hoping that

18:57

we are building and this wasn't the

19:00

the top of the roller coaster

19:02

Yes,

19:03

is the roller coaster the good part or

19:05

when are you going down from the top of the roller coaster? Um,

19:09

I think it probably depends on what? Yeah,

19:12

I think it depends

19:13

on what part

19:16

Doesn't Miley say it's about the climb

19:19

Yes Okay,

19:23

but yeah, I I'm with you Rob like I hope that

19:25

this isn't the the

19:27

The best that we will see.

19:28

Yeah, I hope not I hope

19:31

not but we got it. We can't quit now because

19:33

that's what you did buddy games. Okay that

19:35

think about it They're like we were like, oh,

19:37

no, but now it's like I look

19:39

that I think buddy games bought itself at least

19:42

a week if not two weeks of

19:44

us of it being a hit and I'm

19:47

almost ready to renew buddy games I I'm

19:50

almost ready. I

19:52

I think that they can then how many episode easy

19:54

they can learn. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good question

19:56

Yeah, because

19:57

I'm already thinking about like

21:53

for

22:00

a buddy game. I'm ready to like get the

22:03

buddy game soundtrack. Somebody

22:05

get me the buddy games playlist on Spotify.

22:08

We got, what is it? Don't you

22:10

forget about me? Simple Minds,

22:13

is that right? Don't you

22:16

forget about Devernay. Don't

22:20

don't don't. From

22:23

the Breakfast Club, I think.

22:25

Yeah, yeah, it is Simple Minds. Mm-hmm.

22:27

Y'all forgot Chumbawumba. We got that

22:29

later. 90s. Yeah, that gets

22:31

later. Yeah, but it's still a freaking

22:34

banger. So I'm just saying like the the

22:36

the playlist slaps. Yes. Three

22:39

episodes. We're killing it with if anybody

22:41

makes the buddy games playlist on Spotify,

22:43

please send me a link. Yeah, please please

22:46

send it to us. Okay. Yeah, don't

22:48

you forget about me or Jenny, please?

22:52

And so there was a strategy Jenny of

22:54

okay. Yeah, who's gonna be the prom king

22:57

or queen? Okay, and they're gonna get some power.

22:59

Okay, so there's alliances

23:02

team pride That

23:05

they're doing something with the pageant queens, they're all

23:07

going for summer. Okay summer should be

23:09

the prom queen

23:11

Yeah, so so this is where

23:13

we're starting to get a

23:15

little bit more Confirmation on

23:17

what teams are working with each other because this is

23:19

also the first time that we've heard That

23:22

the Derby squad is working

23:24

with team. Okay, and that their buddies

23:27

And then

23:29

we hear from team pride the

23:31

mastermind of team pride

23:32

Andrew Andrew Andrew

23:35

also Andrew Andrew

23:38

is also trying to give us great TV. So I appreciate

23:40

him So he says he knows that

23:42

Chicago's finest is with them But he needs

23:44

to like lock in the pageant Queens as well

23:46

so that they can control the vote. Yeah,

23:49

so this is where But

23:51

then we're also hearing at the same time that

23:54

According to Lauren

23:56

from the pageant girls they don't

23:58

want to come campaign because they don't want the

24:00

curveball it puts a big target on your back

24:03

so the plan is like it's freaking

24:05

buddy games okay like people

24:07

like oh rob why are you picking on

24:10

lauren like and

24:12

why are you standing andrew like i'm

24:15

everybody who is helping to

24:17

make the show be interesting i love

24:20

you everybody here yeah

24:22

everybody that's trying to make the show boring i hate

24:24

you you can go well this

24:27

is the thing is like do you want buddy games

24:29

to be relevant and get renewed then

24:31

we need some

24:33

fireworks please okay

24:36

um so

24:37

i don't want as

24:40

much as i enjoy uh relationships

24:43

and camaraderie and funny

24:46

silly games there needs

24:48

to still be a little bit of the drums okay

24:50

so please don't take that from

24:52

okay we're playing the long game we're here to

24:54

be we're here to we're playing chess

24:57

not checkers rob okay we're playing the long

24:59

game of buddy games like look if the

25:01

show gets cancelled do you get the money you

25:03

shouldn't yeah

25:05

that should that should be part of the contract

25:07

if the show finishes run on paramount

25:10

plus everybody nobody gets paid yeah

25:12

that should be the rule

25:14

that's actually a great idea because

25:16

we need something to influence

25:18

people to be a devi

25:20

you know yeah be a devi

25:23

in a world of uh i

25:25

mean i can't even dog lauren here because lauren

25:27

at least was if lauren is going to be interesting next

25:29

week okay that look we can come back around

25:31

lauren

25:32

there wouldn't be a conflict if it

25:34

weren't for lauren and yoli

25:37

who i would say no offense to loritas

25:40

i think she was giving face but

25:42

she wasn't like getting into the arguments

25:44

you know but

25:47

we wouldn't have had the conflict with devi if

25:49

it weren't for the other two pushing back so like we

25:51

can't dog them too much okay fine fine

25:55

right it takes two to three to tango and

25:57

but it was a little three on one it's three of them

25:59

fight with one Devi.

26:01

Yeah, that's true. They did gang up on her.

26:04

That's just for Devi. So, uh, but

26:06

basically everybody else is like, Hey, let's talk about

26:08

what's on Devi. Uh, because she

26:10

wants to be the prom queen, let everybody get mad at her.

26:12

And she was like, I love it. I live for it. Give me

26:14

the power. Give it to me. She's like, I'm doing this

26:17

for us. Yes.

26:19

We need to win. People want to give our

26:21

team power. That's a good thing.

26:24

And, and

26:25

obviously this is like strategically great for

26:27

someone

26:27

like Andrew on team pride where

26:29

he's like, uh, I

26:32

know that if they get it, they're not going to put

26:34

it on, they're not going to give us a sabotage.

26:37

So I know blood on my

26:39

hands and also I'm protected and

26:42

I'm making an

26:43

ally happy. They're going to want to

26:45

work with me in the future. This is great. Okay.

26:48

Um, so, but also

26:50

in meantime, there was like a

26:52

side plot. It was, it's actually quite tragic

26:55

where, um, Shaggy

26:57

from Derby Queen or Derby

26:59

squad. Uh, I can't keep track of these fricking names.

27:02

Um, it's decided that there was

27:04

going to be a campaign for vote

27:06

for Shaggy. It was, it was, you know, vote for Pedro

27:08

all over again. Um, people were

27:11

passing around little pieces of paper

27:13

saying vote for Shaggy. And I think

27:15

was shaking the one that had like the full like

27:17

braces, like with the headpiece,

27:20

headgear, yeah.

27:23

Um, she was like really

27:25

committed to the theme and I feel like deserved

27:28

a little bit more love, but this

27:30

goes to show team. Okay.

27:32

And, uh,

27:33

the Derby squad,

27:35

they're kind of on the outside of things because we

27:37

ultimately see the other side really

27:40

control this vote and throw

27:42

all these. Yeah.

27:45

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30:50

Jenny, so let's talk about our main event.

30:52

Bounce Back Ball. Okay? Bounce

30:54

Back Ball. I've seen this. I

30:56

went to a minor league baseball

30:58

game and they had like a

31:00

competitive. Just you get in

31:02

like these like big like plastic

31:05

igloos and then you just like ram people. And

31:08

this was a watch this at like a Durham Bulls game.

31:11

This is what we're doing in Bounce Back Ball. Jenny,

31:13

would you want to participate in Bounce Back Ball as

31:15

an aspiring buddy games player? Hmm. I

31:18

mean, I've always wanted to do those

31:21

like giant sumo suits. And

31:24

I feel like this is like a similar energies. Is the thing

31:27

that you watch though that were they playing soccer? Were

31:29

they just bumping

31:30

each other? They had to bump into each other. They

31:32

were basically like they had to like run like back

31:34

and forth like do like a 40 yard dash. Like

31:36

the two teams like started on opposite sides

31:38

and they had to like they bump the other people in the middle and

31:41

then they had to like hit the cone and

31:43

then come back.

31:44

Anyway, so this would turn out

31:46

to be kind of dangerous. Yeah. Well, that's the

31:49

thing is like I would say, yes, I

31:51

would like to do this. But within seconds

31:53

of the first match, one

31:55

of the Derby squad, which

31:58

are people that are. used

32:00

to physical hitting

32:02

into each other type activities.

32:05

Someone goes down. It

32:09

was Shoe, right? Shoe

32:11

takes

32:11

a fall. Shoe takes

32:13

a fall, yes. He's the one on stretcher. But

32:16

so let's just get into the curve

32:18

ball of it all. Okay, so Queen

32:21

Devi is rightfully announced

32:24

that she's earned her title. She gets her crown, okay?

32:27

She was a miss something once, and

32:30

now she is the prom queen. And

32:32

so she gets to decide the

32:35

match ups. She's excited. Her team

32:37

is not. They're like, oh, why

32:39

do we have to have power in this game?

32:41

Why do we have to have an advantage? Which

32:44

they shouldn't be mad about this because

32:46

this was not a sabotage.

32:49

Like there was no obvious

32:52

advantage. I

32:54

don't know. I guess you could say

32:57

there are two teams with three people,

32:59

but this is such a strange

33:04

activity to know who's

33:06

gonna be good and who's gonna be bad at

33:08

it. That I just don't necessarily

33:10

think. And like I said earlier, they didn't

33:13

piss off one particular team. They

33:15

had to set three match ups because

33:18

there's gonna be three losers for a little

33:20

three way loser last fan

33:22

or whatever. So like

33:25

they got the opportunity to pick their opponent.

33:28

Right. They didn't have to piss off one

33:30

team. If this was advertised as an advantage

33:33

and not a curve ball, like the teams would have

33:36

been fighting tooth and nail over this. So

33:38

this was- Pride even said

33:40

when they got announced, they're like, oh crap, like I

33:42

would have actually liked this power. Right,

33:45

okay. So this was a blessing. And

33:48

so they get to pick the teams. Page and Queens

33:50

is gonna go after Philly forever because they only had

33:52

three people. And so

33:54

we have all of the different matches. I

33:57

don't think we need to spend a lot of time on how to

33:59

bounce back balls. end up going. We mentioned

34:01

the one most interesting thing where

34:03

Shu ultimately got hurt. Shu

34:05

fell off. She fell off. Team OK.

34:08

They ended up having to face and this was

34:10

actually like brilliant on Debbie's part. Like let's

34:12

let's make all the teams fight against

34:15

their allies. No,

34:17

and it was. Queen

34:21

behavior all around. And so

34:23

you have to know this, right? I think yeah,

34:26

she gets a team OK

34:28

versus the Derby squad. OK, somehow

34:32

also team pride beat Chicago's

34:34

finest Chicago's finest. They're

34:39

fine. They're fine in that way. Yeah, they're

34:41

doing fine. Try

34:43

to find it. Yeah, they are one of

34:46

only three teams that are still intact

34:48

at this point. So yeah, you're

34:51

OK. But they've been to the losers last

34:54

shot a bunch of times. And

34:56

they are mid bringing beer, putting

34:58

the mid in Midwest. Yeah.

35:01

So

35:01

I do have a question though. So do you

35:04

think that and I know you said no matter

35:06

what

35:07

pageant queens were going

35:08

to lose. I think so. Do

35:11

you think that there was

35:13

a better team? Like do you think that they could have

35:15

put themselves against a different

35:16

team? And I don't think that they could have honestly

35:19

like maybe like Chicago's finest.

35:22

I don't know. But even against only three people,

35:25

they had they had a person advantage. And

35:28

ultimately it was like nil nil going

35:30

into the finals. They tried to

35:33

actually. Yeah. If

35:35

they only had had the foresight that

35:39

that shoe was going to go down because

35:41

that four person team became a three

35:44

person team like almost immediately. And maybe

35:47

they would have felt like they similar frame.

35:49

They could take

35:52

them a little bit better. I don't know. Again,

35:55

I don't know what the what

35:58

the benefits are. Like are you really. Being

36:00

good at soccer. Is that a thing like because

36:03

of the ball control? I don't know

36:05

No, and also for those that didn't watch

36:08

the episode It's not

36:10

a soccer ball. It's like one of those like exercise.

36:12

Yeah, like a Swiss ball. They're kicking Yeah, you

36:15

have to get into a net. Yeah, well in

36:17

these giant Yeah And the pageant

36:19

Queens they even try to look like I think this must

36:22

have been Debbie's idea also of like they say like basically

36:24

Let's just try to like take Freddie out I

36:27

guess Freddie was like the one good player, but

36:29

they don't even they're not even able to do that Yoli

36:32

is getting is getting mad

36:34

and ultimately That

36:37

Anthony ends up scoring

36:39

the winning goal sending the

36:42

pageant Queens into the losers

36:44

last stand And so not

36:46

the only time that you hope that Anthony scores

36:49

Yes, yeah We

36:51

hope we hope okay. So

36:53

anyway Then and

36:55

the great thing about this if you didn't watch the episode is I've

36:58

never seen this before There's like a four-person

37:00

confessional interview and there's so

37:02

much infighting going on in the

37:05

confessional Give a raise to

37:07

the producers that are like doing this interview

37:10

because like Debbie can't even get a word

37:12

in and Yoli is mad and

37:14

Lauren and Lauren is mad and

37:17

even Lord s is given the evil

37:19

eye and they're mad and and

37:23

It hurts Debbie because she put this team together

37:25

her and Yoli are close and it's

37:27

this buddy games has ripped them apart Who

37:31

knew that buddy games

37:33

would tear this very clear

37:35

close-knit group of fans apart? Yeah

37:38

over bounce back a ball. Yeah

37:40

and and everything that transpires I

37:44

love I love the group confessional

37:46

where they're like so good Tipping away

37:48

from the camera to be like actually

37:51

this like you're not telling

37:53

the truth like checking themselves

37:56

during the while in confessional

37:59

more of

37:59

this please. Yes. War shows

38:02

need to be doing four person confessionals

38:04

where people are fighting. Big Brother, have

38:07

at it. Go for it. Get them to

38:09

and don't

38:10

they don't need to be literally attached

38:13

to each other as a punishment to getting

38:15

people into the diary room. Let's like let's have

38:17

this be a little therapy.

38:18

Amazing race.

38:20

Get two teams in the confessional at the same time

38:22

and let them argue.

38:24

Let them work it out in confessional

38:26

style.

38:26

Do it. Let's get next to each other.

38:29

Jenny Buddy Games is reinventing

38:31

the way the game is played.

38:34

Who would have thought? I love it.

38:36

I'm so happy about

38:37

it. We love it. Okay. So

38:39

we have Losers Last Stand and

38:41

ultimately it's you know you have to get

38:43

like I don't know can you describe it? This

38:46

is like your wheelhouse, Jenny. Describing

38:49

an absurd challenge. Okay. So

38:51

Josh Dumel, he

38:54

he describes this as

38:57

a remix of the egg and

38:58

spoon game I guess where you have the egg and the spoon. Yeah.

39:01

And it's called what was it

39:03

called shovel, shovel and shoot

39:06

or something. The names are not always super

39:08

creative. It's like it's very blatant. Not

39:10

their strong suit. Right. No. But

39:12

there's two so two members of the

39:14

team have a I think on the basketball

39:16

right on a shovel and they're

39:19

they're taking the basketball

39:22

through a fence

39:24

passing it back and forth to

39:26

each other and while doing that not only

39:28

are they using the shovels to you

39:31

know transport said ball they each

39:33

have a ball between their legs that

39:36

they're having to maneuver and

39:40

if you drop a ball at any point you got

39:43

to start over. So and then the the

39:45

remaining buddies are waiting at the end of

39:47

the fence

39:48

for you to deliver said ball.

39:50

Yeah. And then there are buckets

39:54

and you have to bounce

39:56

the ball into the bucket once

39:58

you get the first one then you

39:59

you stack

40:01

a second bucket taller, then

40:04

you bounce the next ball into the second bucket.

40:06

Once you make that, you stack that third

40:09

bucket up on top, you bounce that

40:11

ball into that, and whoever

40:13

is in last place, you're

40:16

done. Yeah, and they

40:18

really do love the oversized

40:20

beer pong motif here on Buddy

40:23

Games. Right, and so that's

40:25

what they do. Ultimately, it comes down to

40:28

Derby Squad versus

40:30

the pageant ladies, and I was

40:33

devastated because they really look, they

40:35

made it look like Yoly was gonna hit that third

40:37

shot, and she didn't. Ultimately,

40:39

the Derby girls win it, and somebody has

40:42

to go. And so, there's

40:44

a little bit of a discussion of, Yoly

40:47

is like, okay, I'll go, and I'm like,

40:49

whoo! Yeah, yeah, you think it was gonna

40:52

be that easy, Rob? Nope, nope, it's not.

40:54

Yoly says, yeah, if it's easier, I'll go, but

40:56

it's up to you. And then Lauren says,

40:58

mm? Yeah.

41:00

I'm thinking about the team,

41:02

and I don't think it's fair for Yoly

41:05

to go home over you. And

41:07

she points at your queen, Debbie.

41:09

Debbie, and I'm like, A2 Lauren. The

41:14

betrayal. I

41:18

know. Like, Lauren

41:20

went from being like, I wanna

41:23

get along with everyone, I don't wanna ruffle

41:25

any feathers, I wanna play the middle and just

41:27

be cool with everyone. She went

41:29

from that version of her to straight

41:32

up being like, there is one person

41:34

here who is causing

41:36

problems and needs to go. Like,

41:39

that's why I'm saying, don't sleep

41:42

on Lauren being a potential villain. Because

41:46

she did deliver- She's already a villain in

41:48

my book. But if she

41:51

was boring and then nothing, then

41:54

she would have just sat there with her arms crossed

41:56

and been like, well, I don't know. I don't know, what

41:58

do we do? He stepped

42:01

up and said, you're making a fair case,

42:03

Jenny. So someone,

42:05

someone had, my heart is open. Someone

42:08

had to face off against Debbie and she

42:10

said, I'll do it. I'll be the

42:13

villain here and say, there's one person

42:15

bringing lots of negativity and it's

42:18

you. All right. Well, if

42:20

you missed it,

42:21

you missed a great

42:24

exit out of the game here

42:26

from Debbie. Here is

42:28

what Debbie had to say about

42:31

the other women from her team.

42:34

I regret everything that friendships. I'll

42:36

never talk to them again. I will never talk

42:38

to them again. It's very rude, very

42:40

self-centered. And I'm not surprised because

42:43

it's pageant hose. Use

42:45

my language. I hope they put that on TV because

42:47

he's a nice girl. You

42:50

got your wish girl. They put that

42:52

on TV. I love it. I love it. And

42:54

I do hope they put that on TV. Yeah.

42:57

Pageant hose. I hope they air that because they're

42:59

not, they're not nice girls. Excuse

43:01

my language, but also don't excuse

43:03

it from television. Don't excuse it from television. Keep this in.

43:06

Yeah.

43:07

They're pageant hose and

43:09

she's working with the producers though.

43:12

She's like pointing right at them being

43:14

like, oh, I'm going to need you to keep that in.

43:17

It's very important. They are pageant hose.

43:19

Yeah. Yeah. Just,

43:21

I mean, just such a great

43:24

rant.

43:25

We love, I love, I loved it. You want to hear it?

43:27

I will say. I will say that

43:29

friendship is on the assumption again. I will never

43:31

talk to them again. Okay. It's very rude.

43:34

It's very self centered and I'm not surprised because it's

43:36

pageant hose. Use my language. I

43:39

hope they put that on TV because these are not

43:41

nice girls.

43:43

She made numerous points. I

43:46

wish that we could have just gotten a quick little

43:48

confessional from, I think you from

43:52

is who she's talking to in the scene because

43:55

I want to know what he's

43:57

done in this moment where he's just like,

43:59

Page and House. Okay. I didn't know that. Okay.

44:02

And we're keep you want to keep that one in? All right.

44:05

Noted. Yeah.

44:07

Okay. It was beautiful.

44:09

She. I hope they air that.

44:12

I hope they put that on TV. Yeah. Did

44:15

we

44:15

let's not gloss over

44:17

the fact where we also got like

44:19

lots of survivor ask

44:21

like

44:22

language being used

44:24

because when they're having the conversation,

44:27

the four of them trying to figure out who's going to go.

44:31

And Lauren is basically being like, you're the night, you're

44:33

the negative one. Like you're the one bringing the negative

44:35

negativity. Debbie just goes, okay,

44:38

so I got voted out. It's fine. And

44:40

then as she's walking away, angrily,

44:43

she passes by like one of the Chicago's

44:45

finest and he like puts his arm out,

44:48

like trying to like comfort her being like, Hey,

44:50

like, you don't, it's going to be fine. And

44:52

he, she goes, I've been voted

44:54

off the Island. So like this

44:57

is like, no, no Chicago's finest.

45:04

It's not fine. Cause I got voted off the Island.

45:06

It's not fine. It's not fine. I don't

45:08

think we've ever had a survivor have this reaction,

45:11

getting voted off the Island. Like this is literally bigger

45:13

than any reaction from like 700 survivor

45:15

players who've ever been voted

45:17

off. She also said this.

45:28

Oh, points were made. Yeah.

45:31

I mean, she did bring the

45:33

realness. Yes. And

45:35

for this we, we will

45:38

never forget that we get her on

45:41

another show.

45:42

Stat put her

45:44

on the challenge. You cowards.

45:47

Okay. She would mess.

45:49

We had low Island people on

45:52

the last challenge. Okay.

45:55

Brink, bring her back. Do

45:58

you think that we are? heading to a play

46:01

because I mean on the challenge USA they started

46:03

including amazing race people

46:06

do you think yeah if the reception

46:08

of buddy games if they keep this energy

46:11

which I hope they will we

46:13

are in a situation where we

46:15

could see buddy games

46:17

contestants on the challenge

46:20

you think it's real this could happen I

46:23

hope so

46:24

I hope so because I mean they

46:26

bring in like some whack-ass

46:29

shows on the regular challenge

46:31

like if we're gonna be bringing in people from CBS

46:34

reality TV I think buddy games

46:36

needs step one buddy games needs to get renewed for

46:38

season two then when we

46:41

get because once it's CBS like that we're out of the

46:43

buddy games business okay when we start

46:45

casting for the challenge

46:47

USA 3 probably end

46:50

of this year early spring

46:53

okay you know it's like they barely

46:55

even include amazing race people

46:57

in it like I think that we can bring in

47:00

like let's mix it up let's get some survivor let's

47:02

get some big brother let's get a couple of amazing

47:04

racers but let's get some buddy games

47:07

now I

47:08

think get Devi

47:12

but also get either Lauren

47:14

or you know

47:16

okay like you and the challenge

47:19

loves to do I mean this is more on the challenge proper

47:21

but they love to do the little rivals thing

47:23

like and they want to have people from

47:25

like similar shows that might have like some sort

47:27

of some

47:27

rivalry oh you

47:29

can't just bring one buddy okay

47:32

so if you're gonna bring Debbie please

47:35

also I would

47:36

love to see the rematch of

47:38

of Debbie

47:39

versus

47:40

either you'll we or Lauren

47:43

we'll see who brings it I don't know about you

47:45

Lord is sorry Lord

47:47

as you didn't say enough for us to

47:49

feel like you were you were gonna take

47:52

but she did there was many points

47:54

in the little confessionals because Lord

47:57

is was positioned in front like directly

47:59

in front of of Debbie and all of these group professionals.

48:02

And she definitely was like making faces.

48:04

Like there were moments where she

48:06

was like. Mean Queen Lourdes.

48:08

Yeah, yeah.

48:09

I think she has the

48:11

potential to be iconic. We're

48:14

just, we're full. I

48:16

guess five episodes left of Buddy Games to

48:18

see what happens, right? And that's really, that's

48:20

Buddy Games. There was a fun moment at the end

48:22

of the episode after we got to see

48:25

where Debbie ended up leaving where

48:27

Josh Duhamel was like awkward.

48:31

You could tell he was uncomfortable though. There

48:34

was like one point where he was like. Lean

48:36

into this. He was like pulling his shirt down. Cause he like,

48:38

he could tell he just like didn't know what to do with his hands.

48:40

Cause he was like, he was like, oh, this is

48:43

weird. Yeah. This is uncomfortable, awkward.

48:45

Josh, you got it. This is what you want.

48:47

You know, you got lightning in a bottle here,

48:50

Josh. Do not. Should

48:52

have made an executive call on the field.

48:54

Like it's Buddy Games. Nobody would have been like. Non

48:57

elimination. Non elimination. You're

49:00

going, yeah. Oh, oh, guess who's

49:02

coming back into the house as a zombie. Oh,

49:04

it's Debbie. Okay. Oh,

49:07

maybe we'll next week we're going to have a competition to

49:09

see if her game gets resurrected. Okay.

49:12

Who cares? You can't go without the prom queen. Okay.

49:15

That she has the, she has the prom queen medallion

49:17

of. Yeah. Oh,

49:20

there was a halting hex. Oh,

49:22

she's going. Yeah. She's all going

49:24

to the edge of extinction. Yeah.

49:27

I feel so many things. Yeah.

49:29

Listen, Rob, we haven't seen episode four yet.

49:31

So maybe there's something

49:33

maybe there's a twist. Okay. All

49:35

right. Jenny, but I love this episode of Buddy Games. I

49:38

like, you know, we've had a lot of fun, but I

49:40

sincerely thought that this was

49:43

a great, great episode. I think

49:45

this was maybe one of the best episodes of television

49:47

we've ever watched on hitter quit.

49:50

I would say so. Yeah. It

49:53

was gripping. I was like, what is going to

49:55

happen next? Like these

49:57

four women hate each other. they're

50:00

on the same team. And this was before that

50:02

was what made it so great is that like, they

50:05

were pissed at each other and the tension

50:07

was there before they were even in a situation

50:10

where they had to decide one of them went. That

50:12

is what we want we want there to be tension

50:15

already like at all times

50:17

and not just five seconds when you have to decide

50:20

to vote somebody out like I wonder if

50:22

they did the interview with the four

50:24

of them after everything

50:26

had already happened. So it

50:29

really did help sell the tension

50:31

that was going on between the team

50:33

that was like all throughout the

50:35

episode. Yeah, because they have that one

50:38

confessional of the four of them when they're like,

50:40

not in their

50:41

their buddy game like pennies,

50:43

and they're in their like dresses and

50:45

stuff. And at one point,

50:47

Debbie gets up and says to the producer

50:50

like, you're gonna have to finish this with three and

50:52

one because I can't get a sentence out. And

50:54

that was when you like Yoli turns her body

50:57

and she says, I'm gonna have to correct

50:59

you because you need to be honest like,

51:01

yeah, Debbie just goes, shut the

51:03

f up like, I'm telling you like,

51:06

like they were straight up warring

51:08

and a confessional look like I'm sorry.

51:11

I like trashy reality TV

51:13

like you would never see this on the

51:15

amazing race big brother like

51:18

at its best, you get this like

51:20

this this on Survivor this would

51:22

be iconic they would talk about this for 20

51:25

years and so for buddy games to give

51:28

us this, I don't mean to

51:30

be hyperbolic. But this was incredible

51:32

from a reality show that's coming

51:34

in and you got to come in and make some noise like

51:37

okay, we're you know, oh, we're

51:39

like gonna do cornholio

51:41

and people are wearing a cup and they're not

51:44

really you know, it's

51:46

it's, it's fine. But

51:48

it's forgettable. I will never forget

51:51

this night. I will never forget this episode of buddy

51:53

games. I will never forget the prompocalypse

51:55

Jenny. And I think that that

51:57

is a

51:58

very important

51:59

point that if this was

52:02

replicated in any one of those shows,

52:05

we would all be losing our minds. You

52:08

can't discount this because it's

52:10

just buddy games. Like they

52:12

gave us a situation that we

52:14

want on other shows that we

52:17

hold in higher regard because we're like,

52:19

oh, this is, this is a storied franchise

52:22

on CBS that I respect more because

52:24

it's been on longer buddy games

52:27

in episode three gave us

52:30

some big, like in

52:32

fighting drama and you, you

52:35

have to respect it. Okay. Put some

52:38

respect on buddy games name.

52:41

That's all I want. Okay.

52:43

That's beautiful. Jenny. All

52:44

right. Anything else that you want to say about buddy

52:46

games?

52:47

Um, only, the only

52:49

other thing I need to comment on from, from

52:52

the prompocalypse was

52:53

Josh Jamel's outfit.

52:56

He was dressed like Jim Carrey and Dumber

52:58

Dumber. He's literally wearing the

53:00

exact orange suit, whether

53:02

it's hot as well. I think beautiful. Yeah,

53:05

that was very, very fun. Uh, so yeah,

53:07

look, uh, kudos to buddy games. Uh,

53:09

best episode yet. Let's see where you go from here.

53:12

Okay. Uh, we're, we're,

53:14

I'm giving you, I'm giving you a little bit of the

53:16

Lord is I for losing Debbie,

53:19

but let's see if you can come back from

53:21

that. And so we'll see. Also earlier

53:23

this week, Jenny and I covered the premiere

53:25

of special forces, colon world's toughest test.

53:28

Can we get a Tara Reed on buddy

53:30

game season two? Oh, I would love

53:32

to see celebrity like Josh, you

53:35

know, put her down and like, uh, like, uh,

53:37

like, uh, what are these cigarettes? What?

53:42

Imagine those big puffy inflatable

53:44

suits. She could hide so many cigarettes in those,

53:46

although they're clear, you'd be able to see them. Um,

53:50

but the pageant hose, they

53:53

probably let you smoke on buddy games. So

53:55

you probably get it. You can't smoke on survivor.

53:58

Okay. Don't

54:00

try to do survivor if you're not

54:03

smoking. Okay. If

54:05

you needed some time. All right, Jenny. What's coming up

54:07

for you these days?

54:11

Just seeing what

54:13

happens next. We did make

54:15

a commitment that we weren't going to immediately

54:17

quit Special Forces colon

54:20

world's toughest test. So

54:22

we'll see how we're able to

54:24

keep in, maybe not

54:26

an every week sort of thing, but we did have

54:28

a pact that we would keep an eye on

54:30

it as long as our read was there. So

54:33

we'll see what happens this next week

54:35

with that.

54:35

Yeah, this is a kind of a crazy

54:37

week here with our HAP

54:40

that I'm going to be in New York for our

54:42

live show for survivor. We have our biggest

54:45

live event that we've ever had coming up on

54:47

Wednesday night. So I'm going to be on the road. So

54:49

it's going to be throwing our scheduling into

54:52

a little bit of chaos. So

54:55

we may have to just like take a

54:57

beat on Special Forces colon world's

54:59

toughest test. But we do endeavor

55:02

to be back here for buddy games coming up next

55:04

week. It's a busy first week of October.

55:06

You've got yeah, you've got the live show in New York. I'm

55:08

going to be away. It's our it's Canadian Thanksgiving

55:11

coming

55:11

up. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving already.

55:13

But we

55:15

will not forget about

55:17

Special

55:18

Forces colon world's toughest test. We can't

55:20

take a second. Okay. Plus,

55:22

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