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1:02

everybody, what's going on? Rob

1:04

Sestrino back here And

1:07

we decided to get back together

1:09

as we're ten weeks into the

1:11

Survivor season to do a little

1:13

check-in on the Survivor 46

1:16

draft that we did right before season

1:19

46 of Survivor so

1:21

we've assembled many of our drafters

1:23

from that night here for a

1:25

little check-in to see how things

1:27

are going Let me go around

1:29

the panel from Top

1:32

to bottom. Okay, let's go to Taryn

1:35

Armstrong. How are you? Doing

1:37

great This Survivor is doing

1:39

great, which means we're doing great. I think Happy

1:42

this shows like kind of firing on

1:45

all cylinders. Yes. Good survivor of late

1:47

It was a little dicey way back

1:49

when when we first got this going,

1:51

you know, you know Early

1:54

days February March, but I dare you

1:56

called Bonner dicey Spring

2:00

has sprung for Survivor and

2:02

the weather, okay? Pouya Zamakili is here! Pouya,

2:04

how are you? I'm also

2:06

doing really well. I've been having a good

2:09

time watching Survivor and I'm very happy that

2:11

we have this little check-in so we can

2:13

talk about the season. Okay, also with us

2:15

tonight is Chappelle. Chappelle, how are you? I'm

2:19

good, but we didn't have to do this. We didn't need to

2:21

do this. I think people are keeping

2:24

abreast of what's going on on Survivor and I

2:26

don't think we really have to break down where

2:28

the hits and the misses were this time,

2:30

especially when it's

2:32

largely at my expense. But I'm here. I'm

2:35

here. Chappelle's here. I'm

2:37

definitely here. I think everyone has been

2:39

on a baited breath watching the draft

2:41

status. They're already

2:43

up to date. Every week everyone is

2:45

only really thinking about who's draft person

2:48

is leaving. So in that

2:50

sense, yeah, I think everybody already knows.

2:52

Okay. I was top of mind

2:54

for several weeks, okay, when it comes to

2:56

people thinking about the draft.

3:00

And so I'm happy that the heat is off to me right

3:02

now, but I don't know if I have a lot to add

3:04

to this late game conversation. All right. Well, we'll talk about it.

3:06

We'll see. We'll see. And the

3:08

woman who really led the charge to bring

3:10

the family back together to talk about the

3:13

draft, it's our chief international Survivor correspondent, Shannon

3:15

Gus. Hello. People

3:17

wanted to, people have asked for this. The same people

3:20

who tell me they care about the rules. Well,

3:22

literally it wasn't, there was a whole tweet. I

3:24

literally do get messages about the whole tweet. One

3:27

whole. And it had a lot of likes.

3:29

An abundance of a lot. We didn't have

3:31

several likes. Yeah.

3:35

Anyway, um, firstly,

3:37

Chappelle, if we were to not do a draft check-in every

3:39

time your draft team is out, we'd never do a check-in.

3:42

So if we didn't, every time you won't, we'd never

3:44

do one either. Well, that doesn't make sense because winning

3:46

is at the end and it's a check-in. Listen,

3:49

after we get you up for this one anyway,

3:51

being the one person who will have survived all

3:53

of these drafts without ever winning based on what

3:55

we see right now, we won't have

3:57

to worry about checking in with you ever again, Shannon.

3:59

Okay. You have

4:01

a great shot. I'm sure all right about it.

4:03

Well the draft is Kind

4:05

of wide open that will explain yeah

4:08

I think so because we got a

4:10

lot to talk through we

4:12

have very specific rules in this draft. It's

4:14

on paper It's a very simple draft. It's

4:16

a winner-take-all, but we have one very

4:19

complicated rule in which

4:21

if you draft the first person to

4:23

go out in the season You

4:26

then need to have the person

4:30

who then goes on to win

4:32

the season and another

4:34

person in the final three to Reverse

4:37

the spell that is the grenade.

4:39

It's happened at one time Amazingly

4:42

back in the 42. Yes

4:45

so far. It happened one time And

4:48

when it happened with when Chappelle was grenade in

4:50

some of our 42 But Mary Ann went on

4:52

to win the season so it is possible It

4:56

is you know I've been the one person who has

4:58

done it You know I know that it is possible,

5:00

but I know that it is not possible this time

5:02

around it won't be happening I'm sorry all right, but

5:04

I think that's like a one in four hundred job

5:07

It's amazing incredible. You got it in

5:09

our second draft Before

5:12

anybody actually got for needed in law

5:15

via the grenade that happens yeah, no

5:17

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah All

5:22

right well we're gonna go back through our 18 picks

5:25

from that night of course Leona was with

5:27

us that night we could of Pouya we

5:29

can then if you have any things you

5:31

want to pass along that Leona has said

5:34

Over these last couple of months I can do yeah

5:39

Pouya be doing his best Leona impression and

5:41

be playing both. Do you do a Leona

5:43

impression? Not a good

5:46

one not a favorable one Not

5:48

a favorable one That's what we want

5:50

to see Yes,

5:53

All right well. We'll go back. Anything

5:55

else does anybody wants to say before

5:57

we talk about this? Of course. Spoilers.

6:00

Through episode ten in case anybody is

6:02

so for some reason listening to this

6:04

it has and was this week's episode

6:06

Survivor. Well. Rob I do have

6:08

a question for you out the game

6:10

because this is your first time in

6:12

the draft gauntlet. With that, how's your

6:15

experience been having? Is it we men

6:17

have to deal with that? I mean

6:19

it's been a rather fine up until

6:21

this week and I'd I'd been through

6:23

many of the Big Brother I drafts

6:25

so that this either, but this one

6:28

is certainly more trash talk around this

6:30

Survivor draft then some of the other

6:32

on Big Brother Ras that were in

6:34

and so. Parent. And

6:36

puja or he knows so I feel

6:39

I said may be I know that

6:41

it's the in. A. Sad and

6:43

in Chappelle made any are like I.

6:47

Felt now on this I again have

6:49

been very time to or sad or

6:51

Chappelle maybe no no no we don't

6:53

need is that or real quick or

6:56

or or we don't drop in order

6:58

for i just point to the president

7:00

promotes to because suppose been very kind

7:02

to all the rest of the drafters

7:04

yeah like if you check out all

7:07

our pre season draft this of like

7:09

that article address adults. But. For

7:11

some reason. You. Know I just

7:13

ticket and dragged into these beasts

7:15

with Sen. It insulates. Me: You

7:17

know let's look busy with me is not going

7:19

to win you. The draft does not a winter

7:22

this. You have to actually win the drafts and

7:24

and com a part of the conversation you don't

7:26

You can't just pick a fight with me. Some

7:28

have become relevant in these conversations and I'm sorry.

7:31

I. Was on vacation but I did.

7:33

Chappelle is on club Hondo saying

7:35

I should be relegated from the

7:37

draft. Pain so I talk a little

7:39

try as a few times several different

7:41

swapped hide your back while you're on

7:43

a on the spicy the Aegis. enter

7:45

this podcast and Weldon know that this

7:47

would you talk about I've added soiled

7:49

same in strapped for kids are made

7:51

in any way. We split lip so

7:54

sad and leaves Australia for a couple

7:56

weeks and I go a little rogue.

7:58

Pool. Month as have not done. So do

8:00

that. You know such a thing she should a came

8:02

to Texas a me as we discussed. As.

8:05

A discuss you Come into Canada also

8:07

appears as a getting personal but also

8:09

see how people company and some even.

8:11

Trifled Medieval do. Message me, see what

8:13

we're They've the like we want to

8:15

bet that people are saying listen, To

8:17

me as if they do they many days one

8:19

know that the rules they want to know that

8:21

we do with second which think you're welcome they

8:23

want they tell me but what you have been

8:25

saying for that earth to listen to him by

8:27

as know he's been say so. Those. People

8:30

exist think. You are feeling really you are

8:32

isn't the only fair since the people are

8:34

telling you so much. Added that we tell

8:36

the people. What? Happened in our draft

8:38

group chat a couple weeks ago. When.

8:41

We hit merge and someone decided to

8:43

in the morning to read and built

8:45

up the house. Second season and or

8:47

a with all my draft in touch

8:49

with the Murtaugh any was a what

8:51

is superb who popped it off either

8:53

rep Matt Matter of fact I rarely

8:55

say anything in there because I will

8:57

talk the love interest with Sen in

8:59

you you definitely went out your way.

9:01

Was worth a try and put another

9:03

reason ah as used every out your

9:05

way to alert us that your team

9:07

was intact. Ah now between the time

9:09

in which we use it. Said message

9:11

out to us and the time we

9:13

were able to schedule said catch up

9:15

on your team is no longer to

9:17

sack. In fact nobody respects the last

9:19

there you have in the game. It

9:21

all ended you're just hanging by a

9:23

thread. Oh to even be a relevant

9:25

in the conversation about the my not

9:27

enough violence or coming side know but

9:29

listen. To learn that

9:31

explains his or guys or enter I

9:34

i just get certain privileges uses you

9:36

will understand of as a winner from

9:38

fire season When did you win. Every

9:43

ten minutes. Just

9:46

as their money right now, where do

9:49

just that? Very. one

9:51

sided reminds you said to observe

9:54

recent photo of go there are

9:56

a bullet minutes goes back through

9:58

the dreadlocks good back to that

10:00

night. What was it? February 26th, 2024, the

10:02

night before the season started and

10:08

we had our draft order

10:10

and Shannon that night had

10:13

the first pick in the

10:15

draft and Shannon you use

10:17

the number one pick overall

10:19

to select Hunter

10:21

McKnight. That's his

10:24

last name? Big

10:26

mistake. Is

10:29

that a mistake? It was

10:31

a mistake to pick your winner pick,

10:33

Rod? No, no. It's just good to have all the

10:35

cue sound effects now for this. We're going to use

10:37

that a lot. Yeah, cue

10:40

is, I'm so

10:42

happy that I have cue. My retroactive first

10:44

pick. But I think it was a

10:47

chalk pick at the time. Looks

10:49

pretty good. Looks so much. Looks

10:51

pretty good up until a couple

10:53

of weeks ago. Thank you so much

10:55

for saying that because after Hunter got voted out

10:57

last week, after we already organized this podcast, yeah,

11:00

we organized this. I had a

11:03

full team. Subsequently Hunter got voted out. I had

11:05

Timmy gone. But I had Hunter and Cue and

11:07

then Hunter left and I thought maybe we should

11:09

cancel this podcast. If Cue goes last night, I

11:11

was going to tap out. But I

11:13

thought in the group chat, what?

11:17

Yeah, you were going to quit like Cue. Oh, yeah, exactly.

11:19

I want to talk about how I'm

11:22

the Cue of the draft. But also, I

11:25

felt, and this is basically just an airing of

11:27

grievances. I felt like people were overly harsh to

11:29

me in the group chat when Hunter went out

11:31

for a few reasons. One, Hunter was a good

11:33

pick. He was as Rod says, the chalk pick,

11:35

the consensus winner pick. Rod Nicole, he was Mike's

11:37

second pick. He was like the Reddit pick. He

11:39

was like a Tommy Sheehan level pick where you

11:41

could definitely have seen him run it down. And

11:43

I do think that he was a little better

11:45

in the preseason than we saw through the season.

11:47

And for that, I blame Mike Bloom for having

11:49

so much charisma that it brought it so much

11:51

out of Hunter that it fooled me. But I

11:53

still think it was a great, great pick. And even

11:55

though it didn't work out, it doesn't mean it was a

11:57

bad pick. And I thought everyone in the chat was overly

11:59

harsh. About how he left so

12:02

name some names. Yeah,

12:04

I mean I know she fell was really mean

12:09

What did I say somebody aired out That

12:15

listen I don't know I do hunter we've

12:18

all yeah, don't blame you're you getting

12:20

kicked off of this draft on hunter

12:22

You've made a whole blaming my no

12:24

blame the last five seasons of drafting

12:26

that you just refused to win that

12:31

It's a lot of people thought it's my fault It's

12:33

under now Oh master Worrying

12:36

me away from Marianne who might you listening to

12:38

Omer that's on you, you know I know you

12:40

got bringing up a season. Nobody remembers. I know

12:42

that Asia

12:48

was very much like you wasted the first pick I was

12:50

like, well you pick Brandon, but I didn't say it because

12:53

I thought it'd be too mean But everyone's being

12:55

pretty mean to me. So I just felt like

12:57

that was yeah, it was What

13:00

let's try to ground this conversation in Back

13:04

at the pick of hunter and where what

13:06

went wrong for hunter Yes,

13:10

I can't I'm sorry I can't allow this to

13:12

go Shannon I'm looking at these messages and I

13:14

said that kill was the one who will probably

13:16

end up winning out and getting no a hunter

13:18

Was the one who would probably wind up end

13:20

up getting winning out getting the ones and attack

13:22

vote. Oh, I'm not cute Yeah, here I am

13:24

Shannon caping for you in this same exact message,

13:27

Brady You'll be having people thinking I'm out here

13:29

just leading the charge against you. But I was the

13:31

one who said I'm

13:33

looking at the rest of these Publish

13:35

the receipts look published the receipts could people

13:37

like no she'll fill you so mean to Shannon It's

13:39

not her fault. She always say that people do say

13:41

that people message you as well and you what people

13:44

will miss you People say that all the

13:46

time stop being mean to Shannon Let her

13:48

win and I every yeah, they tell me to

13:50

let you win all the time. I try to

13:52

throw it I picked the people I picked Bhanu

13:54

for you. You just like completely just win I

13:57

finished drafting better

14:00

about Hunter and Shannon. This

14:02

is not a survivor podcast. This is

14:04

a drama podcast. It really is. Whose

14:07

idea was this? Shannon. It

14:09

was the people. The people that

14:11

come up with this. The people who

14:13

tell Chappelle that he's too mean to me. And

14:15

I know that the same people are in my

14:17

DMs as in Chappelle's DMs. Listen, I'll call

14:19

them out. All four of you need to

14:21

report for duties. Okay. Cause I'm tired of

14:23

the people. All right.

14:26

Yeah. Okay. No, actually Chappelle did it end up

14:28

being nice. I want you all to think about

14:30

how bad everyone's been to me. If Chappelle feels

14:32

he has to turn it around and stuff. But

14:34

then who wasn't? I

14:37

don't know. Being Chappelle. It didn't.

14:39

He defended you from himself. I

14:42

think he's not feeling really bad. Okay.

14:45

He's kind of mad at Hunter for a while. Asia

14:48

came in with it. Shannon,

14:51

it's the draft when before you laugh

14:54

emoji, laugh emoji, laugh emoji, skull emoji.

14:56

It's a laugh emoji, skull emoji experience.

14:58

If that happens. I'm not

15:00

going to diss at you. I didn't

15:02

even say that you should be relegated.

15:05

I asked if Asia agreed with the

15:07

group that you should be relegated. I didn't have

15:09

an opinion. It actually says I don't have a

15:11

strong position on it at this point. Let me

15:13

mull it over. It was my quote. You're not

15:15

going to sit here and misrepresent my

15:17

messages, Shannon. Well, I don't think

15:19

that you messaged it. I think you said it in

15:21

a podcast. Yeah, he said it in the podcast. You

15:24

didn't hear. Okay. Likely story. Okay.

15:26

All right. Shannon, looking back now

15:29

at Hunter as your first pick

15:32

that you feel like that you

15:34

had the right pick. Was

15:37

there something that you saw from Hunter that

15:39

you feel like where it went wrong knowing

15:42

how the game unfolded for him? Yeah,

15:44

I was just the first episode when he's like, I'm

15:46

an introvert. I'm like, I feel like you could have mentioned that

15:48

to my. So

15:52

I did. So I thought that I do think the

15:55

best time to come across all season was in that

15:57

free season interview with Mike. So

15:59

I feel like. never really reached those highs.

16:02

I also felt like he had a really

16:04

clear pathway in terms of feasting out

16:06

as much as he could, but he needed to be protected.

16:08

He didn't play the idol. So I don't take it back.

16:11

I think it made a lot of sense at the

16:13

time. But I think at the time, I was really

16:15

kind of between Hunter and Kenzie. I think the receipts

16:17

are there as well on the draft. So Kenzie's

16:20

still there. It was a good trip. I

16:22

do think that this is going to be a little

16:24

instructive to sort of look back and see, what were

16:27

the things that we were attracted to? And

16:29

then also the things that maybe are

16:31

not firing with

16:33

these survivor players. Because I think that

16:35

Hunter was obviously great in the challenges

16:37

that we had clocked from before the

16:39

season started. He was a big strong

16:41

guy. I don't even think we knew

16:44

he was going to be that good

16:46

with puzzles and everything. And I think

16:48

he's also a very smart person. And

16:50

we got that from his preseason interviews.

16:52

But it seemed like the biggest weakness

16:54

in Hunter's game was just the lack

16:56

of a social game. And

16:58

that is kind

17:00

of a thing that's a little hard to clock.

17:03

Especially Shannon, as you mentioned, Mike is

17:05

so super social. Screw Mike. Yeah.

17:08

I didn't think that Hunter

17:10

would be as good in the challenges

17:14

as he was. If I knew that he was

17:16

that far ahead, that he was that alpha, I

17:18

wouldn't have picked him. I felt like that put them too much.

17:21

But I, at the time, thought

17:24

that he would be good in the challenges, but be

17:26

able to hide past of how funny he was, which

17:28

he did to a degree and blend in a little

17:30

bit more than he did. So I didn't think I would have put all

17:32

my chips on like, oh, this guy's going to be that big a threat

17:34

and then need to win out even if he's capable

17:36

of it. But again, I feel like that was kind

17:38

of misrepresented. So I was led astray. Yeah.

17:42

And I was manipulated. OK. I

17:44

feel like, Shannon, I feel like your strategy is

17:46

to pick people that are going to make the

17:49

merge, which

17:51

is why you're doing

17:53

amazing, sweetie. You're doing amazing. A

17:56

lot of pulls from the people who are out of the

17:58

draft. The winners. The

18:00

winner people who don't have a chance still in this

18:04

Am I wrong? Because

18:08

you're very good to the merge but you

18:11

know, I don't know I feel like this

18:13

draft is strange because I had hunter and

18:17

Pick tons for all the reasons stated and then when it

18:19

came back around I had pixel level 12 and 13 So

18:23

we'll get there, you know, it wouldn't have yet.

18:25

It wouldn't have necessarily been as alpha as

18:27

it was, but I had okay All right,

18:29

and that's the story of hunter the number

18:31

one pick overall It's

18:39

a it's a check-in it's just just a

18:41

you know check in on the draft I'm

18:43

not sure to leave I think

18:46

it would I mean I guess nothing would

18:48

be more RJP if the draft check-in was

18:50

longer than the actual drafts With

18:59

the number two pick overall,

19:02

okay Rob

19:04

sister Nino took Tiffany Nicole

19:06

Ervin most recently eliminated from the

19:08

game This was a

19:10

good pick Oh, yeah. Oh

19:14

my god. I'm just so glad that she Yeah,

19:23

I agree this was embarrassing like Rob showed up

19:25

here and packed us all up I

19:27

mean if for a while it looked like

19:29

you know, there's nothing that's gonna slow this

19:31

man down And so although I

19:33

was devastated to see Tiffany go out this

19:36

time the way she went out I'm

19:38

definitely not sad at least you've taken one hit

19:40

if I say Like Chappelle

19:42

with a fully constituted team. I

19:44

was gonna come in and say

19:46

to you all What

19:49

the heck you hoe bags? Yeah,

19:51

listen, I had Chat

19:54

GPT already typed up my resignation letter for

19:56

just Want

19:59

to be here Yeah, I'm sorry you

20:02

know Tiffany really done in by

20:05

Having the idol and really not

20:07

realizing, you know how big of

20:09

a threat that's made her

20:11

It's definitely a thing here in

20:13

this season of just having the

20:15

idol. So she was a

20:17

gambler She said that in her preseason

20:20

interviews She made a bad bet here

20:22

to think that she was gonna be

20:24

safe ultimately But you know, I feel

20:27

like she was We

20:29

saw her she almost won that immunity challenge

20:31

this week She was pretty

20:33

strong in the challenges all the way

20:35

through had a good social game was

20:38

You know, I thought very good strategically So

20:41

yeah, Tiffany, I thought was a really

20:43

saw ends up being a solid pick

20:45

She was on such a disaster tribe

20:47

has the bad luck to sort of

20:49

be set up with Q What

20:52

if Tiffany was on another one of the tribes

20:54

this season? It

20:56

wouldn't have mattered it wouldn't matter and here's why

20:59

Because even hunter who was the chalk number one

21:01

pick as you and Shannon have stated Even

21:04

he who was in a great position who

21:06

seemed like he was socially like like

21:09

just attached to everybody in his original

21:11

tribe He gets to the merge

21:13

and his tribe implodes around him. They don't

21:15

implode on him They literally try to just

21:17

attack each other while he watches. There's nothing

21:19

he can do to stop that train So

21:22

you switch out hunter with anybody else? They're

21:24

probably gonna get to the merge and do

21:26

the same thing Why is Kevin

21:28

coming for soda then now everybody's coming for

21:30

Kevin hunters allies all turned on each other

21:32

and left hunter for dead You think that

21:34

wouldn't have happened to Tiffany now it was

21:36

coming look at her allies. They turned on

21:38

each other, too I think it's

21:40

just one of those season where these players are wackadoo

21:42

and a wackadoo player might just win the game You

21:45

start listening. Okay, I think this is clear. I think

21:47

that Tiffany made an early

21:49

mistake and that was voting out to Lynskey

21:52

Yeah, she went with Q's plans. She wanted

21:54

to vote out Jessica. Yeah, she listened to

21:57

Jill in she listened to Q on that

21:59

and yeah That was a mistake. Me,

22:02

imagine a world without a community. We'll

22:04

see Tennessee and Tiffany heading into the merge together. Mm-hmm.

22:07

Yeah. Yeah. Interestingly,

22:09

I listened to the preseason interview this

22:12

morning with Tiffany before I did the

22:14

exit interview. Tiffany actually said

22:16

the word wackadoodle in her preseason interview,

22:18

so I don't know if she insepted

22:20

Banu with wackadoodle during their

22:23

time together on the

22:26

tribe. She also said that she described Q, she

22:28

said she wanted to work with him, so she

22:30

also chose to

22:33

be part of it. So I

22:35

think the most important thing is that a

22:37

lot of people have been saying that, wow,

22:39

Rob's going to have a better draft average

22:41

than you. And that's been irritating me because

22:43

obviously you don't compare one season against you.

22:46

And then literally, have you not seen that?

22:48

You don't read your own comments. We have

22:50

a community. Anyway, the point is that that

22:52

was silly because one season versus six was

22:54

very different. But Rob did have the

22:56

capacity to have the highest seasonal average,

22:58

which is also something that's important. And now

23:00

that he's lost Tiffany, he can still tie

23:03

with me and Pouya if he gets first

23:05

and second place. So I know that a

23:07

lot of people are looking at,

23:10

is Rob going to get the best seasonal average

23:12

he can tie still when I combined. It's not

23:14

a tie. You have a 3.3, you have a

23:16

3.7. It's

23:19

not a tie. We are not the same. What

23:21

are you looking at? 42 or 44? 44,

23:23

I had a 3.3 average. 45,

23:25

you had 3.7. That was your best

23:27

performance. 10, how are we ending up in a draft about

23:30

losing? Why are we

23:32

arguing about it? Listen, listen, Shannon, what you're saying is

23:34

that the more seasons you have,

23:36

the harder it is to have a good

23:39

percentage, good average, which is why it's

23:41

all the more impressive that I still

23:43

hold the highest win percentage

23:45

in all drafts over all of you.

23:49

You have more time attempts. Get

23:51

out of here. The more attempts, the

23:53

harder it is to have a higher percentage.

24:00

That's talking about winning as opposed to

24:02

right just other things that you made

24:04

up that people care

24:06

about I want to say that I got

24:09

the math wrong on purpose to trick puya

24:11

into Showing that he also keeps score because

24:13

he also cares about this Rob

24:20

wanted to know the order so I opened it up and I have it in

24:22

front of me. Yeah Yeah,

24:25

I think who you might be people who is yeah,

24:27

I was like open up what for you What

24:30

document do y'all have has been right? Well

24:32

cannot have the high need me shape for

24:34

being organized and and project I

24:37

just thought we were counting who won I didn't know

24:39

you need to excel sheet to keep up with you

24:41

know winner Okay Okay,

24:48

all right well the third pick overall

24:50

okay Chappelle had the number three pick

24:52

in the draft and Chappelle with your

24:54

first pick you ended up going with

24:57

Gem wait no no no the

25:00

first three picks of the draft did not all go out with

25:02

an idol in So

25:08

we excel at finding the people that are

25:10

gonna find the idols okay the move you

25:12

can't blame us We

25:15

know Wow We're

25:25

not the issue Jim

25:28

Honestly of all of my picks Jim is the

25:30

one that I regret the most because I'm like

25:33

It was my chance to have a really good

25:35

pick and I saw all the good things about

25:37

her and I just Incepted into her head

25:40

like maybe based on her pre-season interviews

25:42

I thought she would play an idol

25:44

for herself, but she lied to us In

25:46

her interviews I remember in the press she

25:49

was saying like oh if I get this

25:51

advantage I'm not gonna tell anybody I definitely

25:53

gonna play I'm like she lied so that's

25:55

not my fault Yeah,

25:57

what why would why did you end up in this position?

26:00

You know, um, the three

26:02

of them all not playing their idols. Yeah. Maybe

26:04

the gym one is kind of like I can,

26:06

I can accept that she didn't play her. But

26:09

I'm still looking at Hunter and Tiffany like, what

26:11

were y'all doing? At least she didn't see it

26:13

coming. They knew they were getting votes. Yeah. Hunter

26:15

was piling on the split. I think he's made it perfectly

26:18

clear. No, Hunter. Right. But why do

26:20

you, why would you, why would you

26:22

bet on that? And then Tiffany, child,

26:24

what you doing, man? Look,

26:26

you came in second in the immunity

26:28

challenge and everybody knows you have an

26:31

idol. Why would

26:33

it they split on you? What, why would

26:35

they keep you without getting a new vote?

26:37

That's what her and Hunter had in common. They

26:39

both came in second in the challenge and lost

26:41

to Charlie. And then they got blindsided with an

26:44

idol. With a public idol. It's like, bro, play.

26:46

Chappelle, I don't know if you remember back

26:48

from that night, but if you did not

26:51

choose gem, were you, were you trying, were

26:53

you between gem and another person? Let

26:56

me look. So

26:58

if I, if I

27:00

had chosen again, it probably would have, it

27:02

probably would have been Tim. So yeah, like

27:05

it would, it would, it wouldn't have changed

27:07

much. Yeah, I think Tim ends up going,

27:09

what, uh, Tim goes 12. Yeah. Yeah. No,

27:13

because I think I picked, I picked heaven at

27:15

that point. So yeah, I probably would have picked

27:17

heaven first, but it probably would have been, it's

27:20

either Tevin or Tim, because those were the two

27:22

people I wanted that were aside from gem, like,

27:24

oh, my draft list, if I remember correctly. Okay.

27:26

Yeah, I think that's about it. I thought I

27:28

could get Tim on the, on the back end,

27:30

uh, cause he hadn't gone prior to, you know,

27:33

me picking my second pick. Yeah. High

27:36

on gem in the preseason also. Yeah.

27:41

I'm saying if I had picked heaven, my goal

27:43

was to be on the way back. But,

27:46

but, you know, no, just like I said, Jim

27:48

was the player who I saw the most promising.

27:50

I just had no clue she would end up

27:52

in a situation where she was taunting her tribe,

27:54

making them look for invisible. Like, I like, why,

27:57

man, why are you acting like this? Why we're trying to

27:59

win? the draft. And to be fair, we still don't

28:01

know why they voted her out. Yeah,

28:04

nobody's given us a good reason. I think

28:06

we have. Yeah. I

28:09

mean, we need to ask Maria or

28:11

Charlie, you know, ultimately what happened there?

28:14

Look, these people were dying to turn against their allies

28:16

and she was just the first of many. First

28:19

of many? OK. Yeah. All right. So then

28:21

with number four pick overall, it went to

28:23

Puya and Puya has a person. First person

28:25

we're going to talk about that's still in

28:28

the game. It's Venus.

28:32

Mothering at the mother convention. Having a

28:34

good time. Listen, here's my take. Here's

28:37

my thing. I was always going to

28:39

pick Venus. No matter whether I was first pick

28:41

second pick third pick fourth, but I was going for Venus. I

28:44

said this right when we saw the preview for

28:46

the season after 45. She is

28:48

the first Persian player to play since Shireen.

28:51

I wanted her on my team. The more I

28:53

learned about her, read about her, like heard her

28:55

interview with Mike. I loved everything. I was all

28:57

in. Now. Do

29:00

I love how her game has been

29:02

going? Absolutely not. My heart breaks for

29:04

her. She's clearly someone who's keen and

29:06

wants to play and has basically got

29:08

zero social capital to use it with anybody.

29:10

Last night we saw her. We saw

29:12

Maria wanting to get this vote out

29:14

of Tiffany and the critical

29:17

vote instead of going for

29:19

Venus. She opted to go for Liz,

29:21

who was vocally berated. Q was basically

29:23

wanted to add Q said no food

29:25

for you. No matter how much you

29:27

try and beg how bad is Venus

29:30

is game right now where Venus is

29:32

not the clear choice there to talk

29:34

to. So it's just, it's just unfortunate

29:36

to see that happen. I

29:38

will say as of last night, she is

29:40

the best placing Persian player ever. She has

29:42

beat Shireen. Hey place. So number

29:45

one Persian on the board. I'm happy

29:47

with my choice. Listen, is she going to

29:49

win me the draft? Probably not, but

29:51

I wouldn't have wanted any other way. Maybe

29:53

once we talk about number four, maybe I'm

29:56

still in it. I'm still in it. Yeah.

29:58

Venus, I think very

30:00

good chance to get to the

30:02

final three and I think somebody

30:04

that look there's

30:07

scenarios there's a

30:09

we'll talk them through okay all

30:11

right here we go all right with

30:13

the number five pick another person who's

30:16

still in the game Taryn picked Kenzie

30:18

at the number five pick a

30:20

great pick by Taryn yeah

30:22

look we're

30:32

getting into a couple of good things but for the first

30:34

round so far it is true that you have

30:37

someone who could win from the first round still yeah

30:39

I think it's important to bring

30:41

it back up I'm still convinced that

30:43

there was a conspiracy to to

30:46

bring me down to withhold the pet

30:48

peeves until after the draft so

30:51

I still managed to great picks in my opinion because

30:54

Kenzie Petty

30:59

was was definitely going to be

31:01

my pick with a lack of

31:04

pet peeve yeah so I

31:07

can tell you this you know I know we haven't gone

31:09

to Leona's pick yet Leona was coming

31:11

into the draft with two names on her

31:13

list number one with a bullet was Kenzie

31:15

number two was Tiffany Taryn

31:17

she was fuming when you picked

31:19

Kenzie mmm was losing it

31:22

cuz she got six pick which she's gotten six

31:24

pick a fair bit in these drafts and

31:26

she was just like I don't know

31:28

what I'm doing now I love

31:30

that so much because of how little thought I

31:32

put into it so when I mmm well that's

31:35

what that's the thing that makes her fuming cuz

31:37

it's like it's not like you were like you

31:39

had a list coming in but what I will

31:41

say Taryn it is funny looking back now because

31:43

you could have taken Kenzie and then left her

31:46

Jelinski and she would have

31:48

just been grenaded and now the draft yeah

31:51

yeah happened yes yeah

31:53

I listen the the back spots are

31:55

really bad in the survivor

31:58

draft because You are

32:00

you get like a like

32:03

the last shot at first pick. Yeah, and

32:05

then you get no no pick at the

32:07

end I've advocated in these drafts that the

32:09

the third round should be flipped where if

32:12

you have Picked six and

32:14

seven. You should also get 13. I know

32:16

that that's a little too. Let's pick up

32:18

that point almost We asked the people. Yes,

32:21

I mean, I think we should I know People

32:25

think yeah Random

32:27

I know like if this was

32:29

like the you know in fantasy

32:31

drafts like you know, it's like,

32:33

you know, there's Anyway,

32:36

I don't want to like lose people on this But

32:38

like if you were gonna like do the Jimmy Johnson

32:40

chart There's a survivor player named Jimmy Johnson and he

32:42

came up with the values for all of the picks

32:44

on the board and so I

32:46

think that you know six seven

32:49

and 13 is probably

32:51

much closer in value to you know 112 and 18

32:53

then 112

32:56

and 18 is terrible though. I Mean

33:00

one. I think we round with three

33:02

rounder is just it's gonna be yeah,

33:04

not great for anyone regardless um, but

33:06

it's a You'd

33:08

rather have 112 and 18 then six seven and 18. I don't know

33:12

I don't like that I think I

33:15

like six seven better even though I've done poorly

33:17

at the six seven spot before I picked Roxroy

33:19

and Jenny Kim. Mm-hmm, which which hurt

33:21

me very much in that any Kim was robbed Standby

33:28

Here's the deal with with the Kenzie pick. Yes.

33:30

Yeah, I picked Kenzie spoilers for the

33:32

rest of my draft I also had

33:35

Jelinski. Mm-hmm, which means I am Grenaded

33:37

yeah, and my other pick is

33:39

gone as well, which means I cannot

33:42

win the draft however

33:45

from my perspective at least Kenzie

33:48

is one of the top contenders. I

33:50

think the front-runner. Yes. Well, I Run

33:53

until until Yeah.

33:56

Yeah time now. I'm not as sure but

33:59

the the fact remains if Kenzie

34:01

wins survivor 46 Whoever

34:04

has the second place finisher

34:06

will win the draft very

34:08

interesting Can

34:13

I can I give one others move three

34:15

for a future season like if Season

34:18

future season rule. Okay, we can't change

34:20

the rules now But for future season

34:23

if somebody is created but somebody in their team

34:25

goes on to win unanimously

34:30

What about that Two

34:37

way two different outs if you got grenaded Nobody

34:51

has won unanimously in the new era either

34:55

Right I

34:57

also I also this doesn't affect me this

34:59

this particular round But I also had a

35:01

proposition which is that like if you are

35:03

the last pick if you get stuck with

35:05

somebody Yeah, and grenaded

35:08

Should that should you be? Oh, maybe

35:10

oh, yeah I like I like this

35:12

also because then there is some like

35:14

value to being 18th It's like well,

35:16

I could only get grenaded on six

35:18

and seven and if I have 18 That's

35:22

a grenade proof spot. That'd

35:25

be the dream because then no one's donated and the

35:27

draft is on World

35:35

where you got you got 18th thick and that was

35:37

the grenade and there was absolutely nothing you could You

35:40

just have to sit there and take the shot to

35:42

take the hit like a point of getting grenaded is

35:44

that you picked? Yeah, yeah Good

35:47

rules. This is a good off-season meeting for

35:50

the draft People want this know

35:52

the people want this Proposed

35:57

rules and then we'll take a deal draft

36:00

we should do them now we have a what

36:02

the people we let's have a draft vote we'll

36:04

have a drafters vote before the next draft we'll

36:07

implement the ones that get a little bit convoluted

36:09

okay all right so there's okay taren

36:24

pick kenzie great pic what

36:27

other than a lack of pet peeves in her name

36:29

being less than being petty that was there

36:32

something that you saw that made you think that she's

36:34

definitely gonna be good her

36:37

last name was yeah you know why Leona was so mad you should

36:39

have to give also

36:46

good vibes vibes vibes vibes

36:49

vibing yeah vibes okay he

36:51

doesn't overstudy and

36:57

then he gets the results he gets and if he wins

36:59

good boom if he doesn't boom

37:01

can't are you blaming your best friend the

37:03

whole world Mike bloom for your failure because

37:05

you overstudied that interview he doesn't have that

37:07

and you only pick the people who are

37:09

gonna make the marriage you know like you

37:11

got to start but like trying to dress

37:13

a winner shane at some point I feel

37:16

very good

37:19

about you when I'll take all the hits I'm ready

37:21

okay honest oh yeah you deserve it the

37:23

number six pick overall went

37:26

to Leona a good

37:28

pick here somebody who had a great

37:30

week just won the fishy award of

37:32

this week it's a Maria she wasn't

37:36

under for the throw she was

37:38

very happy with the pick I know that

37:40

I haven't asked her about her feelings after

37:42

last night but I know that in the

37:44

last like month leading up to this episode

37:46

she was like I'm out I'm gone I

37:48

have no shot of winning but this last

37:50

episode I think for a lot of people

37:52

has pushed her up the contendership definitely for

37:54

good reason I think too I'm

37:56

having a hard time understanding why more people

37:59

are behind the Maria win because like I

38:01

know a lot of people are pushing Kenzie to the front

38:03

of like I don't know if it's just reading the editor

38:05

away. Yeah. But Maria has her number

38:07

one ally. She's been in like a lot

38:09

of these secret alliances and stuff like that have all

38:11

come through Maria. I don't

38:13

ever hear anybody talking about getting her out

38:15

in a real way. You know, like, you

38:17

know, kind of passively but not any real

38:19

attempt to get Maria out. My question is

38:22

this because everyone else has now lost their

38:24

number one ally to some capacity. Yeah. And

38:26

we haven't seen Maria really talk about trying to cut Charlie

38:28

or Charlie talking about cutting Maria. No. If

38:31

there is a world for me, if both of them make final

38:34

three, they split their votes and neither win. So

38:36

like, I think that kind of... I don't know.

38:38

Look at that happening. Yeah, it never happened. I

38:40

don't know. I believe... Yeah, if Charlie and Maria

38:42

both get to the end, I think Maria is

38:44

winning. Yeah. One of

38:47

the reasons why I felt like Maria wasn't

38:49

the contender to get into the edit a

38:51

little bit is that Charlie seems to be

38:53

narrating all of their moves. Yes. Now

38:56

edit-wise, yes. Charlie has had the bigger

38:58

edit. Yeah. Yeah,

39:00

for sure. But she definitely had a big surge here. And

39:04

thinking about new-era winners, a surge here

39:06

actually makes a little more sense, perhaps,

39:09

than her edit. So

39:11

I am looking at her a lot. However, I

39:13

do feel like strategically I would

39:15

be a little concerned for her position. I think

39:18

that taking this shot on

39:20

Tiffany should

39:22

open up the game in

39:24

a dangerous way for her because who is left

39:27

that is a threat strategically other than her

39:29

after she just made such a big move.

39:31

And I think they just hunt for credit

39:35

in resume building. It sounds familiar in

39:37

this draft, actually. Yeah. What

39:39

do you mean? Speak to that, Rob. Speak

39:41

to that. Yeah. It's a

39:43

lot of that work. Well, actually, I should have...

39:46

I'm making incredible moves. Look at my average and

39:48

the jury. A lot of

39:50

us have just started to look at the real

39:54

credentials in the draft. It's about winning. So

39:56

if anybody's coming up with any loopholes to

39:58

try to make themselves relevant... I would

40:00

love for you to call them out by name.

40:02

Yeah, exactly in the same way that survivor is

40:05

about winning at the end And not having the

40:07

biggest flashiest move right and so Yeah

40:13

Long-term would you rather would you rather win

40:15

and be hated or lose and

40:17

be loved would you rather win with a bad winner?

40:19

Or have the highest average draft placement. That's a good

40:21

would you okay? Okay with

40:23

your heart. I want a million months at

40:26

least more of them message me Hot-trying

40:28

has a great average He

40:35

plays very hot Russell hands has a great

40:37

average as well. I mean No

40:42

People made the finals twice in loss,

40:44

you know Yeah,

40:47

Amanda Kimmel Put

40:51

back to Maria very good back to Maria

40:53

Maria I really feel like

40:55

is it is it a very nice spot

40:57

right now? I was talking about this with

40:59

Steven, you know The nice thing for Charlie

41:01

Maria is that for people

41:03

to come after them that you

41:05

have to put together I mean

41:07

put together the group out of

41:09

Ben Kenzie Q

41:13

Venus and Liz and and they are there's no

41:15

combination of them that like each other So

41:17

yeah I think I think Ben and Kenzie

41:19

is the real danger because if they can

41:22

pull Like Venus who I think is perfectly

41:24

pliable and Liz who I think was definitely

41:26

gonna be down to make a big move

41:28

like that Where it's yeah, I'm really dangerous

41:30

And I also think that the biggest danger

41:32

for Maria is that Charlie gets the bug

41:34

of well now I have to take out

41:36

my number one ally I

41:39

feel like from Maria She's in a good I

41:41

think he's in a good spot because if she's

41:44

secured Q long term and if Charlie can secure

41:46

Ben Who's someone who's like very loyal and like

41:48

such a social play and has a connection with

41:50

Charlie then they've slowed off a majority and I

41:52

actually think feel great about where they

41:54

fit from a rear I It's

41:57

all edit for me. Like I feel like if he

41:59

wins it's insulting edit, he and

42:01

Charlie have been running the game and we've gotten

42:03

a lot more at least from

42:05

Charlie like if she were to win yeah I

42:08

just think they're like that badly

42:10

on the edit. She said a couple

42:12

strong episodes like last episode was strong.

42:14

Episode one I thought she looked really

42:16

good. She just said invisible like times

42:18

where just I've forgotten she's on the

42:20

cast. For me it's the classic new

42:24

era edit of having that

42:26

like episode one moment where

42:28

she like clocks Jelinski and gets him to

42:30

admit the thing and to

42:33

make the big like you know who she is

42:35

then totally bleeds into the

42:37

background for like six

42:39

episodes. Barely any

42:42

confessional. Charlie's talking about the through

42:44

the whole thing but she's still

42:46

relevant and you still see her on the

42:48

screen most of the time and

42:50

now is having a surge sort of

42:53

near the end. So I

42:56

do think it tracks and

42:58

if anything Kenzie might have been a little

43:01

too visible throughout but I'm not

43:03

sure. So my issue with Maria is that I don't

43:05

think reflects her game like I think she has been

43:07

a lot more than that. So if that had been

43:09

her game and she was really emerging now it'd be like

43:11

they're just showing us what happened and that's gonna be like

43:13

a very legitimate winning game but because I

43:15

feel like she's been running things and often giving the credit

43:17

that's why I just think it would be insulting especially for

43:20

a winner and is insulting probably regardless.

43:22

So yeah Liana wherever

43:24

you are Good luck.

43:27

But I disagree. I thought Maria's edit. I think her edit

43:29

is like subtle but also you see her and I think

43:31

that's what you want. You don't want people to be able

43:33

to see the winner mile away but you do you

43:35

still want them to see how you got there and

43:37

I don't think anybody would be confused as to how Maria ended

43:39

up winning the game. So I think it's fair. Okay Liana

43:43

had the second pick first

43:46

pick of the second round went back to

43:48

back with Soda! She

43:52

loved the pick. Made a mistake. She

43:54

did make a mistake. She loved the pick. After

43:57

episode one she was very high on Soda's

43:59

odds. Yeah. And she was not a

44:01

happy camper when Sona gets a

44:04

blindsided. Sona specializes in making happy

44:06

campers. So I had to go to Sona.

44:09

She had to go to yup. It

44:11

was a good pick. Yeah. She,

44:15

she was, but it's funny that Sona

44:17

gets voted out and the exit press all points

44:19

to, well, we have to vote her out. Cause

44:21

she's so close to Venus. I'm like, Venus, Venus.

44:24

That's what was like. Yeah. I just, Tim is like, I

44:27

just didn't figure out, I figured I couldn't crack him. She

44:29

just was so close. I'm like, we didn't see any

44:31

of that. I thought the office did quite frankly.

44:33

Yeah. Every time we saw y'all,

44:35

y'all were arguing. So it's just a weird edit. If you

44:38

want to talk about edits, I think the Sona edit is

44:40

just kind of like, it's kind of odd to me. Cause

44:42

why are all her allies turning on her so quickly? Yeah.

44:45

The whole purple tribe is the disaster tribe was

44:47

all a faint. The orange tribe was the disaster

44:49

tribe. They hated each other. You just happened to

44:51

win the immunities. That was it. Exactly. They happened

44:53

to win. That was all. Well, Hunter was there.

44:56

Exactly. Yeah. You're welcome. You're

44:59

welcome. But looking back, the

45:01

Sona is an interesting pick

45:03

that she was super social.

45:06

She was smart about the game. Hunter

45:09

was sort of like, he was, he was

45:11

smart, but he was very physical and

45:13

not social. And like both

45:15

of them end up not

45:18

really surviving this NAMI disaster

45:21

with Kevin sandwiched in the middle, the three of them.

45:23

It's really amazing. The NAMI in general.

45:25

Yeah. That tribe also just a mess

45:28

of like needing to make a big

45:30

move, take credit for it. And the

45:32

merge hadn't even happened. They went too

45:34

long without a tribal council that you

45:36

need that it's almost like, uh, boy,

45:38

okay. I want to make a reference.

45:40

Okay. Uh, that

45:43

you ever see something about Mary Chappelle?

45:47

This one. Yeah. And

45:49

before they go to the big date at

45:51

the merge, they needed to let out some

45:54

of the tension, I think.

45:56

Oh, okay. Oh my God. What is

45:58

this plot point? That's what's happening. He

46:00

just say you guys in the movie. I mean Needs

46:06

to go to tribal council before they get to the merge This

46:15

is a good analogy Yeah,

46:20

watch something about Mary before you go to

46:22

survivor. Mm-hmm I don't I actually think maybe

46:25

I misinterpreted because what I'm thinking can't be

46:27

right. I'm gonna Google the I

46:29

think you might be on the right track I

46:32

put it back in soda terms like

46:35

like sometimes like if you have a bottle

46:37

of soda that's been you know Shake

46:39

it up too much Maybe maybe

46:41

you're like like release the cap a little

46:44

bit first and then let it blow man

46:47

You can't look cuz you come in they come in

46:49

to teed up. They're all tits Everybody's

46:51

like everybody's like we're raring to go.

46:53

They gotta shoot at something. I'm like

46:59

You know Some

47:03

okay, the first thing that came up is something about

47:05

Mary okay for kids It's

47:13

not for kids yeah Don't

47:17

read that line out loud just let it go Image

47:21

of Cameron Diaz in that movie Don't

47:24

don't click images. No because there are other things

47:26

in that movie that you do not want to

47:28

see okay Yeah,

47:32

okay, I know what I'm watching tonight, okay

47:37

Taryn oh my god his second pick Even

47:42

with Mariah This

47:49

is I think the pick I'm most proud

47:51

of She

47:54

had zero pet peeves on the

47:56

board. Yeah, I zeroed in on

47:58

the best pet peeves of

48:00

the new era. Mm-hmm. True.

48:04

Remind us. When they, listen, I don't have the

48:06

list pulled up to front of me right now for pet

48:08

peeves. But when they finally did come out with

48:10

the pet peeve, check out the

48:12

article, read Mariah's

48:14

pet peeves, they're great. It's

48:17

the fact that S is in the word list, the

48:20

fact that you have to print out

48:22

something to send something back in

48:25

a delivery. It was car analogy,

48:27

the tribal council. There was more. There was

48:30

like 10. They were good. It was the

48:32

best one. I have a question.

48:34

If S is not in the word

48:36

list, how do you spell it? Is

48:39

it just a different word? No, it would be a

48:42

different word. Make it a different word. It would be

48:44

a different word. It's like, this is cruel. So just,

48:46

oh, so, oh, okay, I get it. It would be

48:48

like. For people who have a list, we're trying to

48:50

say it. Call it a level. Yeah, a level. Yeah,

48:53

that would be perfect. In fact, maybe we should all

48:55

change that. Okay. I

48:57

was like, yeah, she calls us a lip. Yeah.

49:01

She's one of my favorite players this season because it's

49:03

like the little bit we did get was comical. It

49:06

just, it does look like she does. I mean, you

49:08

want to talk about people who weren't socially integrated into

49:10

a tribe. It just looked like we eventually just looked

49:12

up and it was like, well, Mariah, it's your turn.

49:15

You know, there's like, wasn't a lot of fanfare about

49:17

it. It was just kind of like,

49:19

well, I mean, you're not one of us. So you

49:21

got to go. So she gave it a good

49:23

shot. I like seeing her on my TV. She

49:25

fell victim to Q thinking she was Aubrey and

49:27

the fact that she was on the green tribe,

49:30

right? And how much the green tribe wanted to

49:32

not say anything about each other and I would

49:34

say green tribe has been 10 weeks. You know, the

49:36

tribe name. I do not know. It's

49:39

ego, but it's green. More. Okay.

49:43

Okay. All right. Pua

49:46

has a second pick for Pua.

49:48

Little fanfare for Mariah, even in this drop. We're

49:51

not even halfway done yet. She couldn't jump.

49:53

Yeah. Okay. Couldn't

49:56

jump. All right. Pua with

49:58

the ninth pick overall. Went with

50:00

Jess. Big mistake.

50:03

You shouldn't have done that.

50:05

Okay, alright. You know what?

50:08

I didn't need the ad lib there. So

50:10

this is a bad thing for me. Where

50:12

in true Aman fashion, I molded

50:14

over forever. And then I was

50:17

between two people. I picked Jess. Chappelle

50:20

immediately picked the other person I was looking at in Tevin. And

50:23

for the first couple weeks of the season, I was

50:25

hurt. I really thought I gave

50:27

away the winner. And I was distraught. I'm

50:30

very happy I had Jess ultimately. First

50:32

of all, amazing Twitter follow. Very

50:34

fun. Very funny. And

50:36

just good energy. Can

50:38

laugh at herself. Love all that from her. I

50:41

feel like got a bit of a bad shake.

50:43

Again, Disaster Tribe, not a good spot to

50:45

be in. But the one thing she did do,

50:48

and why I do not regret this

50:50

pick, she outlasted Jelinski. And

50:52

for that, this guy's grateful. Because I

50:54

didn't get the grenade. And I'm

50:56

happy. You came very close to that grenade.

50:58

I'll close it up. Jess had a hard

51:01

time adapting to the game. She wasn't sleeping

51:03

at Ponderosa. She wasn't

51:05

sleeping in the game. They didn't have fire. They

51:08

didn't have flint. She couldn't get comfortable.

51:11

And so she was not in a great,

51:13

did not make a great adjustment to being

51:15

in Survivor. I don't think we got a

51:17

real sense of what it would have been

51:19

like if the person they cast

51:21

got to play Survivor. No. I

51:26

don't know. I feel like Jess told us, this is what you

51:28

were going to get. This is just it. This is me. Because

51:31

she's our severalteenth third of the season.

51:33

Yeah, severalteenth place. Yeah. And

51:36

when I tell you, she fits right in

51:38

with all the rest of my kiddos. The

51:40

whole family is together. We needed a Jess,

51:42

right? And that's fine. So sorry, but that's

51:44

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51:46

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51:48

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tenth pick in the draft went to Chappelle.

53:27

And Chappelle looked like on draft

53:29

night this was a steal, as

53:32

Tevin fell to

53:34

Chappelle. Made a mistake. Yeah,

53:37

and you know what? Like I said,

53:39

I just, I could not see

53:42

how much this tribe really disliked each

53:44

other. Because you have Tevin coming after

53:47

Soda because he's too, she's too close

53:49

to Venus. Soda and Venus,

53:51

every time we see them on screen, they're arguing.

53:53

And then Hunter is nowhere around when all of

53:55

this plotting is going against each other. So it's

53:57

just like, how do you guys not like each

53:59

other? did we get here? I wish I

54:01

had saw more of the, you know, everybody

54:03

turning on Tevin beforehand, right? Like, I wish

54:06

it wasn't so jarring that it's like they

54:08

all looked up and were like, well, yeah,

54:10

let's just get Tevin. And it's a

54:12

game, but because I felt really good about the pick when

54:14

I made it. But, you know, again, this

54:16

was just a disaster of a draft for me. I

54:18

just had no clue knowing he would go out like

54:20

that. It was just a lot of stuff. But

54:23

I, in the sense of Chappelle, this,

54:25

like, there were things here that clearly

54:27

happened, like Tevin was the king of

54:29

Nami. It's just that Nami decimated themselves

54:31

so quickly that that became kind of

54:34

an irrelevant plot line where it all

54:36

is now like about Venus who is,

54:38

you know, has outlasted all of the people who

54:40

were the main players in that. So it, Tevin's

54:43

journey is so shocking to me. And I don't even

54:45

feel like this is necessarily all Mike's charm. Like, I

54:47

think we saw Tevin, but then the way that it

54:49

like played out in the season was that it's like

54:51

he, I thought he would be the star of the

54:54

season and he wasn't even necessarily the star of his

54:56

fight with Venus. So that was

54:58

quite surprising to me. And I

55:00

remember at the time of the draft, they had released

55:02

the woes of the first six minutes of the episode

55:05

and it opens with Tevin narrating the entire thing. So

55:07

I thought, oh, he's going to be the star easily.

55:09

He's going to be the star. He

55:11

got put into the star spot. And I think

55:13

that that might've been his best moment that we'll

55:15

remember from him, from the whole show. I thought

55:17

Davey had this on Twitter. I think this was

55:19

a great take. Davey said

55:21

that Tevin, number one pick to

55:24

co-host the official survivor podcast next

55:26

season. What do you think of

55:29

that? I'm not mad at that at

55:31

all. What? Who

55:33

do you think? Who do you think

55:35

you are drafted right now? Quick podcast

55:37

host draft? I feel like we need to see

55:39

who wins because obviously the last one went to the winner.

55:41

So like, are they really going with what was Tevin? 11th?

55:44

10th? What

55:46

was Tevin's the fourth boot of his

55:48

original season? So

55:50

I hear Tevin came forward. Who do you

55:52

think would be a better podcast host from

55:54

the season 46 cast? I

55:57

don't think that who is the on fire. Is it

55:59

what the thing is? He's gonna hold you on fire

56:01

with you. You're the only other I don't think

56:03

you need to do the podcast with Q I

56:05

know Jeff would be talking Like

56:10

you as whole yeah Q Q has a

56:12

whole segment already ready to go. I don't

56:14

know Take of

56:16

the week I would listen to

56:18

every commercial on the podcast when

56:20

Q is telling you big mistake

56:23

You didn't buy Pat pistachios What

56:26

do you what is wrong with you, you know,

56:28

you can cancel Christmas if you don't get these

56:30

pistachios genuinely Yes,

56:37

so many minutes, you know, yeah Alphabet

56:41

game. It's great. I

56:44

don't even know how they would get through one segment

56:47

Yeah I

56:50

really was going to a tenth place.

56:52

We didn't even get like again like that

56:54

biggest story Yeah,

56:56

I think if Kenzie wins I could be Kenzie

56:58

Kenzie would be good Kenzie would be a good

57:00

one Yeah, yeah, and

57:03

I think the next person we're gonna talk about Charlie

57:05

wouldn't be awful either If

57:07

he goes on to win the game, I think he's

57:10

a great pick for that company Okay, so then to

57:12

keep an eye on after the season I don't think

57:14

they announced it and they didn't announce the d1 until

57:16

like right before this season started So we might be

57:18

waiting a minute on that. All right Yeah,

57:23

oh we do Perhaps

57:27

I mean justice seemed very impressed with D this season on

57:29

the podcast But they I mean they didn't say they were

57:32

changing the role and then on the last episode of last

57:34

season they said oh Rick You

57:36

want me to tell them? It

57:39

was like with three minutes left. It's like okay Rick Devins,

57:41

you know, we did we didn't want to say anything But

57:43

we were gonna try out a new person every season. Yes

57:48

Yeah, it's not that hard Shannon as

57:50

someone who's done it several times listen,

57:52

yeah Okay, been there done that 11th

57:54

pick was Went

57:57

to me Could have gone a

57:59

couple different directions ultimately went

58:01

with Charlie. Yeah.

58:03

Yeah. So now you picked

58:06

it. Yeah. I'm saddest

58:10

that I didn't make this pick because I

58:12

had next to Charlie's name. He's too normal

58:15

and what I didn't realize was that all these

58:18

people were going to just have crack energy where

58:20

the normal person would be the one to just

58:22

like be there when the dust clears because everybody

58:24

we've talked about prior to this

58:27

has had like one or

58:30

one or more defining moments where it's like

58:32

you literally gave the game away you know

58:34

not not so much like Maria or Kenzie

58:36

because they're still in the game but the

58:38

whole gym thing she's doing a lot Tiffany

58:40

not playing her idol Hunter not playing his

58:42

idol you know a lot of that stuff

58:44

like these are unforced errors you know

58:47

like you could have you come on you

58:49

could have foresaw some of this stuff Charlie's

58:51

just hanging out he's not targeting his number

58:53

one allies he's winning challenges he's

58:56

not showboating when he wins the challenge like that's

58:58

about you pick right there that's not bad

59:00

Rob I'll give you credit for the Charlie

59:03

pick for sure yeah yeah I

59:05

think he still needs to solve

59:07

a problem like Maria if you're

59:09

Charlie and I think

59:11

that if he gets to the end with Maria

59:14

I think Maria will win I don't know if

59:16

necessarily if he could get around her in the

59:18

fire and based on like how we've seen him

59:20

prepare for doing these grip strength challenges I have

59:23

a feeling the guy can make a fire very

59:25

quickly so maybe that's what he's

59:27

thinking but I do feel like

59:29

that the next move that has to

59:31

come for Charlie is ultimately getting out

59:33

Maria I don't even know that you

59:35

go thanks I would have picked him

59:38

yes Karen I feel like

59:40

that way are you sitting in your survivor tape

59:42

now I'm

59:45

just advising others that they should be

59:47

training their grip they may be going

59:50

climbing on occasion I

59:52

think you'll be helpful been there Taryn

59:54

definitely took me climbing and I've been training

59:56

my grip ever since I'm going back I

59:58

promise Yeah, I

1:00:00

don't know where this is going and after there's

1:00:02

something about Mary thing. I'm just gonna I

1:00:11

didn't introduce this energy into this

1:00:13

discourse what Rob

1:00:17

before Rob

1:00:19

this is a great take. This is a top two steel pick

1:00:21

of the draft. I think yeah Yeah,

1:00:24

I'm upset about it. There's actually quite a few

1:00:27

plays still that we've talked about that were Not

1:00:30

concerned with them Rob if if

1:00:32

Charlie had long hair Like

1:00:35

a Malcolm. Oh, I think the internet would

1:00:37

be going wild for him right now Because

1:00:39

that's literally all I mean because he's gotten

1:00:41

to this point where he's essentially the biggest

1:00:43

challenge threat He's aligned with who he would

1:00:46

call his Denise in the Malcolm and Denise

1:00:48

Alliance. Yeah, he hasn't made anybody mad He's

1:00:50

had a really good edit But people are

1:00:52

not standing Charlie in a way that they would

1:00:54

be standing him if you know What is he have

1:00:56

to do Chappelle? I mean he's talking about Taylor Swift.

1:00:58

Yeah Number one train your grip.

1:01:00

Give me a tube. Grow your hair. There

1:01:03

you go If

1:01:05

you're looking for the stands you got it you gotta have long

1:01:07

hair Are

1:01:09

you I'm the child yes, I think I was

1:01:12

playing an incredible game. He's currently Charlie Yeah

1:01:15

Yeah, and you know what

1:01:17

it was what Charlie I did have Charlie high

1:01:19

up like in my Randy new food rock I

1:01:22

dropped the Charlie first but I'd listen to half interviews

1:01:24

and then Kevin and Hunter came in late and swayed

1:01:26

me away from that So I also feel kind of

1:01:28

manipulated in that way But yeah He

1:01:30

was like the see Taylor Swift person and

1:01:33

I think I should have just out of loyalty done that and I

1:01:35

would have um You know would be

1:01:37

doing well right now. So great pick

1:01:39

from Rob could win a pic Okay

1:01:42

on edit and game I put him first we

1:01:44

combined those two things. I think he's in the

1:01:46

best spot Yeah, if he wins his edit has

1:01:48

been wild like it's a great that's gonna be

1:01:50

like one of the best winner edit We've seen

1:01:52

a while run the game. He has it.

1:01:54

I don't think he's made a bad decision yet Yeah, he's

1:01:56

really been a narrator of the season. I I do feel like

1:01:58

that edit wise I could also see him Being like

1:02:00

the sort of like oh

1:02:02

just like right the final three You

1:02:06

know the Carson spot the you

1:02:08

know record spot like just like

1:02:11

you know fine Goes

1:02:13

out at four goes out at five and makes it

1:02:15

to the finale. I'm just naming people I draft all

1:02:17

the time I'm okay. You got you got my guys.

1:02:19

This time Carson Ricard

1:02:21

all me picks. Okay. All right, well

1:02:24

back to Shannon's

1:02:26

pick of yeah him. Yeah

1:02:29

number 12 I'm right because we're going to Q

1:02:31

now It

1:02:35

was fine done that I Am

1:02:38

I thought I pick Q second and Pouya was like well

1:02:40

you didn't and I was like well I forgot yeah

1:02:43

I mean, yeah, this is marginal between well

1:02:45

fun fact Yeah, three of the draft picks

1:02:47

this season ended up getting picked at the

1:02:49

same placement They ended up in Tim and

1:02:51

12 having a I'm

1:02:54

just looking at the sheet ready you think about

1:02:57

this more than I do which is believe me

1:02:59

Do you not? Nobody

1:03:01

thinks I don't know actually I think Well

1:03:05

shout out to the fact checker because

1:03:07

I'm looking at their feet Yeah, I

1:03:09

shout out to the survivor fact checker on

1:03:11

Instagram who does do a great job keeping

1:03:13

track of a lot of this Amazing

1:03:17

incredible and much more Yeah,

1:03:19

yeah, okay All right, let's talk about

1:03:21

it. Okay, Shannon picked Q number 13 You're

1:03:31

holding up the big mistake sign. So yeah

1:03:35

Okay Okay

1:03:43

Shannon got a message From

1:03:46

I got a cameo from Q recently, but so

1:03:48

did Shannon You want to

1:03:50

set this to set up this clip Shannon? Oh

1:03:53

this oh gonna play it. Yeah, why not, right? I

1:03:55

was gonna play it on global, but I don't know I could do it Okay

1:04:00

Matt Benjamin great listener of the podcast one of the

1:04:02

many people who are invested in

1:04:05

this. First that we found one of the list one

1:04:07

of the one of the many. Matt

1:04:10

because I begged for a cumio on

1:04:12

the podcast because I was so jealous of

1:04:14

Rob's cumio and we're

1:04:17

making cumio a thing. You actually tweeted it. Alright

1:04:21

let's see what Q has

1:04:23

to say to Shannon. Yes

1:04:25

past. So this is of

1:04:27

course is a late birthday

1:04:29

gift. Sort of

1:04:31

to your picking of me on your

1:04:33

team right. You didn't pick me

1:04:35

first round. You picked me whenever

1:04:38

after the first round. That

1:04:40

sucks. But I just want to

1:04:42

come on and say happy birthday

1:04:44

to you or should I say

1:04:46

happy late birthday to you because you

1:04:49

drafted me late so there's only right that

1:04:51

I come on here late and wish you

1:04:53

happy birthday. I would sing to

1:04:55

you I really would but

1:04:57

it's no longer your birthday so guess what

1:04:59

I'm not gonna sing to you I'm just

1:05:02

gonna tell you happy late birthday late joster.

1:05:04

That's you Shannon. But

1:05:07

also also there's

1:05:10

no thing about being delusional and you put

1:05:12

the little cute Q in the middle of

1:05:14

it. You better believe in

1:05:17

me Shannon. Did you believe in

1:05:19

Siree your favorite player of

1:05:21

all time? Because

1:05:24

of you again. What did you

1:05:26

tell Q? The last year was your favorite player of all

1:05:29

time. You have to stop believing that you picked

1:05:31

none of your questions. Don't get

1:05:34

nervous get excited you're down

1:05:36

to the last one on

1:05:38

your team. Rally behind

1:05:40

me and let's get this thing done.

1:05:43

Well you're gonna have to

1:05:46

cancel your birthday next year.

1:05:48

It'll be a big mistake.

1:05:50

I think that's been called

1:05:52

nah me entry to that

1:05:54

party because you don't choose

1:05:56

me first. But

1:05:59

seriously happy. birthday to you. I

1:06:01

hope you're having a great time. Your

1:06:03

friend Matt got you a

1:06:05

cameo and I

1:06:07

make sure that I pour my heart

1:06:10

into each and every cameo. He does.

1:06:12

But you took my heart when you

1:06:14

drafted me, not first. So please never

1:06:16

do that again. Okay? Do you

1:06:18

agree on that? Happy birthday. Enjoy your

1:06:20

time. Love you. Peace. Oh, love you. Wow. I

1:06:22

must say I was in February. When I saw

1:06:24

this, I was like, I

1:06:28

was like, wow, did we miss Shannon's birthday?

1:06:31

Two and a half months ago. Yeah. So

1:06:33

look, a lot there. Matt got so

1:06:35

much into the context, I felt. Yes.

1:06:39

Okay. So great job by

1:06:41

Q on the cameo there.

1:06:43

And yes, Shannon, why didn't you

1:06:45

draft Suri if she was your favorite? Yeah.

1:06:48

Yeah. Yeah. Who

1:06:51

did you draft in set of Suri? I

1:06:55

don't know why the Suri stuff got in there,

1:06:57

but I will say that I'm fully decusional

1:07:00

on she winning the draft. He could

1:07:02

definitely win in a Venus final three. Who

1:07:04

knows? He could definitely come second to Kenzie

1:07:06

with one vote from my other draft pick.

1:07:08

I spent a lot of time thinking about

1:07:10

this. I feel like he was going to

1:07:12

win. We need decusional shirts and cute skirts.

1:07:14

And also he's the star of the season.

1:07:17

It's so fun to read to him. I'm almost definitely

1:07:19

not going to win. So I don't really feel like

1:07:21

I have put pressure on it like other drafts, but

1:07:24

I'm also not out of it, which would be boring.

1:07:26

I'm very excited about it. And this might be, you

1:07:28

know, let me get the temperature from Karen as you

1:07:30

fell here. I feel like Shannon got

1:07:32

one cameo and it's suddenly the biggest fan.

1:07:35

I feel like this, this was not your

1:07:37

tune like two weeks ago. Check the receipts.

1:07:39

I said on Twitter weeks ago, I've been

1:07:41

saying this whole time. Q is

1:07:44

the best character. I said this

1:07:46

before the cameo on my podcast

1:07:49

last week. I said top three in the

1:07:51

new era characters, Marianne, Carolyn Q. I'm

1:07:54

obsessed with Q. And I feel a lot of affinity for

1:07:56

Q because as I was saying, I feel like I'm the

1:07:58

Q of the draft. You

1:08:00

just name one A

1:08:05

little is he up there with the rules? He

1:08:07

was in the alphabet game. I'm fairly maligned star

1:08:10

of what's going on here Are

1:08:12

you? polarizing

1:08:18

Delusional there it is can't

1:08:21

win the game. Yeah. Yeah Honestly

1:08:24

do feel like the cue I feel like a

1:08:26

lot of people rooting to me, but maybe disappointed

1:08:29

But there is a little bit of hope. Um A

1:08:32

lot of affinity with cue and i'm just having

1:08:34

the best time because I guess a root for

1:08:37

cue which is so fun I got a cumio loved

1:08:39

that And yeah, as

1:08:41

I said, like I probably like it when I have so

1:08:43

many people in the draft, which is so often It's

1:08:46

you know, it ends up being really disappointing and it's so

1:08:48

much pressure Being out of the draft would be boring but

1:08:50

just having cue i'm on a wing in a prayer and

1:08:53

i'm kind of obsessed with it There

1:08:55

was a great moment in this

1:08:57

season where shannon's entire draft team

1:08:59

of hunter tim and q all

1:09:01

met up For the journey

1:09:03

and they made the alliance of six

1:09:05

and there was a photo of the

1:09:07

three of them together And

1:09:10

shannon posted. Hey everybody look at

1:09:12

my draft team just hanging out

1:09:14

here On the journey and

1:09:17

they went on to become the greatest alliance in survivor history

1:09:20

Remember it I did repost

1:09:22

it with some one direction links later on You

1:09:26

know self-ass the night changes. So did

1:09:28

the six go? Well It didn't

1:09:30

know but q I honestly I

1:09:33

really believe in it because he told me to

1:09:35

he yelled at me to believe so I do

1:09:37

now, um, i've been pushed into believing and

1:09:40

I'm the cuzional for life like you can't stop

1:09:43

me. So Q please

1:09:45

like after that cumio, I beg you to bring

1:09:47

it home So, okay

1:09:50

There's q number 13. Okay number 14 in

1:09:52

the draft. Uh, the pick went back to

1:09:54

me And I could have

1:09:57

gone a couple different directions, uh, but like when somebody

1:09:59

still in there game still

1:10:02

you could see her at Applebee's every week

1:10:04

it's Liz yeah man

1:10:09

that rumored billionaire Liz Wilcox has been

1:10:11

delivering she they decided to not to

1:10:13

not show her basically for the first

1:10:15

few episodes because it's there between Mariah

1:10:17

and Kenzie they got it covered but

1:10:20

we already got Liz but since they

1:10:22

started to reveal to us Liz's true

1:10:24

thoughts and feelings and strategy

1:10:26

in the game she has just

1:10:28

been just a star on

1:10:30

television Liz is hilarious she's

1:10:32

also like ridiculous this

1:10:35

is so much fun to see her this far

1:10:37

in the game I probably would have drafted her

1:10:39

had I got had I got to pick before

1:10:41

you as far as my third pick goes but

1:10:43

you gotta depict it Rob yeah Liz has been

1:10:45

fun I don't know how

1:10:47

much win equity she has ultimately right

1:10:49

now but I think that she has

1:10:52

an okay chance to maybe get to

1:10:54

a final three hard to see this

1:10:56

there I mean she's been like looking

1:10:58

for her big move to really pop

1:11:01

in these like she had and as

1:11:03

you said certainly popped in this

1:11:05

week's episode but hard

1:11:08

to see the scenario where she

1:11:10

has like a winning argument at

1:11:12

this point but she can come

1:11:15

second to Kenzie wrong that's all yes possible final three

1:11:17

with Q and Venus so it's

1:11:20

the same thing that I was the queue you

1:11:22

could definitely come second to Kenzie which is I

1:11:24

think at this point most of the best that

1:11:26

we can hope for on these two pigs I

1:11:28

didn't pick Liz because of her

1:11:31

mass food allergies and I kind of like that

1:11:33

played out yeah played out a little bit yeah

1:11:35

why I was like that'll be really hard for

1:11:37

her that was a good call I have to

1:11:39

say yeah for Liz that in the

1:11:42

early part of the game and Nami that

1:11:44

Tevin and Hunter I think we're doing a

1:11:46

lot of the feeding of Liz they would

1:11:48

like look for crabs and keep her going

1:11:50

and I think that then once we got

1:11:52

to the merge I think that then those

1:11:55

guys had other stuff going on

1:11:57

they're both ultimately out of the game I don't

1:11:59

think anybody is doing that kind

1:12:01

of like food hunting for Liz

1:12:04

I also wonder if they're at a

1:12:07

beach that may not have as much food

1:12:09

available to Liz in terms of like Crap

1:12:11

hunting It hasn't

1:12:13

gone well since the merge No,

1:12:18

no, but I think

1:12:20

she's potentially in line for

1:12:22

some sea of money Maybe

1:12:24

yeah, these money Applebee's Really?

1:12:32

Yeah, so she's got the American

1:12:34

style cuisine restaurants fighting for her

1:12:36

attention But but I agree She's

1:12:39

not one of the people who I could see

1:12:41

getting to the end and getting zero votes automatically

1:12:43

Especially when there's other people who have been left

1:12:45

out of plans a week after week Well,

1:12:47

people just are refusing or risking their whole

1:12:49

games to save you know So that just

1:12:51

to get these people voted out, you know

1:12:53

And so I think that yeah She slots

1:12:55

in with some combination of cute

1:12:58

Q Venus or whatever She

1:13:00

she might she might be our winner this

1:13:02

time. It's not it's not looking that bad

1:13:04

for Liz. Okay. All right We

1:13:06

go back to Chappelle Chappelle's

1:13:08

third pick 15th overall Chappelle

1:13:12

went with a man who is I'm

1:13:17

not an actor. He's not an actor

1:13:20

It was a new he won a million hearts

1:13:23

But not one round. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you

1:13:25

don't want to drop some hot Chappelle He's

1:13:30

a wackadoodle lip Bhanu was the

1:13:32

star of the first half of this season I

1:13:34

think Q has probably been the star of the

1:13:36

second half But yeah, I felt

1:13:38

really good about the pic especially once he

1:13:40

was not the grenade at any anytime We

1:13:43

had Bhanu on TV. It was entertaining. I

1:13:45

know a lot of people were not loving

1:13:47

Bhanu edit He was taking up a lot

1:13:49

of screen time But again, it's for the

1:13:51

same reason Shannon says like you you have

1:13:53

to get behind these wild pics that are

1:13:55

just out here Just taking up the screen

1:13:57

time. They're doing crazy things, but they're not

1:13:59

going anywhere And for a while I thought,

1:14:01

Banu might just slide on to the merge and

1:14:04

then who's gonna waste their game trying to get

1:14:06

rid of Banu? And so, he got very close

1:14:08

to doing that. But he was a cartoon character

1:14:10

of a person throughout the first half of this

1:14:12

game. I loved it. There was a point we

1:14:14

thought he could be a losing finalist. Yeah.

1:14:17

Yeah, easy. But I do

1:14:19

remember... I feel like he's gonna look very different season

1:14:21

if he's going here. I don't think

1:14:23

so. I think you just swap Q and Banu and

1:14:25

call it a day. Because you're definitely gonna have the

1:14:27

same people tripping over themselves to get Banu out. But

1:14:30

if you ever had a big Banu having to dish

1:14:32

out who's going to the reward, he would have exploded

1:14:34

right here just having to make it. Yeah. And

1:14:36

just like melt it into the ocean. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14:39

I made the Banu pick and I remember like

1:14:41

thinking feeling really good about my picks prior to

1:14:43

that. But Rob going, Ooh, Chappelle. Ooh, I'm sorry.

1:14:46

That's the one. That's where you really went wrong. And

1:14:49

I'm saying of all the picks that I made, I

1:14:51

think Banu is the one I'm proudest of

1:14:53

the moment. Yeah, but you know what? That

1:14:56

I felt like that... And this is where,

1:14:58

you know, not perfect. I thought

1:15:00

Jelinski was the best. What's the better

1:15:03

pick? I would have taken Jelinski over

1:15:05

Banu. And so... You would have been

1:15:07

right. That was a big mistake. I

1:15:09

don't know. I think Banu and Jelinski

1:15:11

were both easily some of the standouts

1:15:13

from the early game, despite their down...

1:15:15

They're no, they're quick downfalls. And so,

1:15:18

yeah, I think either one of them

1:15:20

is a great pick. But I avoided

1:15:22

the grenade by picking Banu and I'm okay with

1:15:24

that. Okay. Alright. Now you

1:15:26

can still win. Go away. Now,

1:15:28

then Puja has the guy who

1:15:31

the last person still in the

1:15:33

game and a steal

1:15:35

here at number 16 with Ben. Shredded

1:15:38

it. Yeah, I'm very happy

1:15:41

with landing with Ben here.

1:15:44

I remember at the time that I picked

1:15:46

him, I did feel like I don't know

1:15:48

about win equity, but I feel good about

1:15:50

not grenade. And that has not

1:15:52

only happened and it's paid some dividends. I

1:15:55

think there's a path where he can maybe

1:15:57

get the W if he's in the final

1:15:59

three, perhaps, but... I just feel like fun

1:16:01

character, I'm not seeing the

1:16:04

gameplay. And I think that's fair to

1:16:06

say. I think he has some

1:16:08

room to move and I think a lot of the next vote

1:16:10

really depends on him. I will say who you

1:16:12

are for me, Steel of the Draft. Listen Charlie,

1:16:14

at the place that they went to the game

1:16:16

that's played at, I think are the two best

1:16:18

value picks that you guys got. And for Ben,

1:16:21

super important and this could be true of Charlie

1:16:23

too with Liz and Venus. If they

1:16:25

both get zero votes because we don't have a unanimous

1:16:27

win rule yet, but apparently we're adding a bunch of rules. But

1:16:30

because we don't have that yet, seven

1:16:32

examples say you and Venus

1:16:34

come second tied to Ken

1:16:37

B and they both get

1:16:39

zero votes because Ben will clearly play

1:16:41

higher than my other pick which is

1:16:43

Hunter, you would win. So that

1:16:45

is best value. Charlie could be valued, it

1:16:47

really is. And Ben, I just love

1:16:49

Ben. And I feel like that to me, I'm like really upset that

1:16:52

I missed that one and went for Tim over Ben. Not

1:16:54

you, you're great. But Tim really is. You

1:16:57

could also have a Kenzie, Venus, Ben

1:17:00

final three with a Kenzie win,

1:17:02

but then that would also default

1:17:04

to Puyo. With Ben,

1:17:06

Liz, Venus, Ben. Ben

1:17:09

Q, Venus. Not gonna lie, Rob,

1:17:11

I'm rooting for you with

1:17:13

all my might at this point because

1:17:16

look, I'd rather keep everybody else with

1:17:18

the one win and stop all these

1:17:20

shenanigans than to have this crazy wild

1:17:23

story happen where it's like, oh yeah,

1:17:25

our 17th or 16th pick person wins

1:17:27

because the real winner couldn't win. And

1:17:30

also, I'm rooting for Rob and I

1:17:32

haven't. If

1:17:35

Kenzie wins, Taryn's going to still shade away like

1:17:37

I won twice. And the person who wins, they

1:17:39

will say they won twice. Can I add the

1:17:42

key? I'll give the only person who picks two

1:17:44

winners. You know, what can I add? I

1:17:47

mean, look, depending on giving y'all credit

1:17:49

or Taryn credit, I might lean toward

1:17:51

giving Taryn credit for that. I've painted

1:17:53

the scenario though for Shannon, when, for

1:17:55

maybe why I want to advocate for

1:17:58

Shannon, when, because imagine you get. a

1:18:01

Cumio next fall of roasting

1:18:04

us. I mean that'll be Way

1:18:07

way way way Shannon's gonna win with Q Yeah,

1:18:11

because I'm second to can be or in

1:18:13

a Q Venus list final three anything could

1:18:15

happen I mean, I mean that would

1:18:17

be you like three epic

1:18:20

minutes of you Roti

1:18:22

Dedicate all three minutes. Yeah, I want

1:18:24

it if that happens dedicated all to

1:18:26

me Q you hear this right here

1:18:28

I think it's worth any cause yeah

1:18:36

Is how he ad libs when he's like

1:18:38

missing some context like as He

1:18:41

couldn't remember Steven's name. So he said to Rob

1:18:43

like your co-host and with me as well He

1:18:45

was like you didn't pick me first you

1:18:47

pick me lower than Look

1:18:51

he that's how he's so good at the game He's a

1:18:57

Multi multi multi multi million. I like he doesn't need

1:18:59

to be doing these cumios. It is chai roller

1:19:04

You think he's Liz Wilcox rich 26

1:19:10

days which is very long of playing

1:19:12

new year and survivor. So Yeah

1:19:17

Okay Let's

1:19:19

let's you know, let's compare tax returns

1:19:21

from Q and let's see

1:19:25

Yeah, okay. All right one of

1:19:28

them with the several teams pick

1:19:30

ironically Yes,

1:19:33

Karen had a choice there were two players up on

1:19:35

the board he got to keep one

1:19:37

and he got the past one Yeah,

1:19:40

I had a 50-50 pick between a medevac player

1:19:44

I Think

1:19:48

a lot to you. I thought random was

1:19:50

first. So I was like look I

1:19:53

wouldn't pick neither one of these people there was none

1:19:55

you gonna be so kudos to you for picking at

1:19:57

least a legendary one little

1:20:00

bit of research. Excuse me. You only

1:20:02

had two options. Yeah. Yeah.

1:20:05

Listen, I can pick every single time in

1:20:07

this draft. Much

1:20:09

worse. The one time I got to pick my

1:20:11

own. Yeah. Brandon didn't even believe it

1:20:13

himself. Yeah. It's a miracle

1:20:15

I haven't gotten a draft. Yeah.

1:20:18

Brandon's kids would have thought he was the grenade.

1:20:20

Yeah. They were throwing a first out party. Everyone's

1:20:23

kids addicted to them. No, I just. I

1:20:25

thought Brandon was an okay player that was

1:20:27

on a tribe that I thought he could

1:20:29

have been the first boot of and he

1:20:31

did not look great for him in the first

1:20:33

episode. But Jelinski, I thought was going to be

1:20:35

size like a big strong guy. He's not going

1:20:38

out first. Yeah. I've been meaning to

1:20:40

ask you about that. You always called Jelinski a

1:20:42

big strong guy, but he's just tall. Yeah.

1:20:45

He was a basketball player. Yeah.

1:20:48

Tall. Yeah. He's

1:20:50

tall. I mean, listen, that

1:20:52

high school at that block town. You

1:20:54

should find out what is Jelinski bench

1:20:57

press. Please. All

1:20:59

right. Somebody get the cameo.

1:21:03

Y'all know you're not going to find a

1:21:05

bigger Jelinski fan. Yeah. I remember

1:21:07

looking at the tribes and thinking if

1:21:09

Jelinski is the muscle guy, it's not like

1:21:11

they got, you know, like look around like

1:21:13

they got Q and Jelinski, but it's

1:21:15

not like Jelinski is the biggest, the next

1:21:17

biggest guy. He's just the tallest person out

1:21:20

there. I was like calling Drew, you

1:21:22

know, a big physical guy. It's like, no, he's

1:21:24

just tall. And that's okay. Look,

1:21:27

get Drew and Jelinski on celebrity net

1:21:29

fights. I'll tell you who's going to

1:21:31

win. Chappelle. Yeah. Yeah.

1:21:35

No, no, no. Tell me who would have won. Who would

1:21:37

win? Jelinski. Okay.

1:21:39

Cool. But you know, you

1:21:41

would have been Drew? You pick a Jelinski?

1:21:44

He is benching. He's putting up some numbers

1:21:46

and then I want to respond from Chappelle.

1:21:48

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Can

1:21:51

we grenade cameos? Sam

1:21:53

is asking, should I text and find out or I

1:21:56

don't know, is that harassment? Is that like? That

1:21:58

is harassment. I don't know. I feel like

1:22:01

in the like reality blurred article one day.

1:22:03

It's like that Cester Nino

1:22:05

had his employees Texting

1:22:07

survivors to have them when you bench

1:22:09

send me a video of you Several

1:22:22

reps several rep look all I'm

1:22:24

saying is like jaliski is a Glynki

1:22:27

is a big guy, but I would not

1:22:29

call him a big strong guy in comparison

1:22:31

Especially based on what we've seen on the

1:22:33

show I mean like jaliski was down bad

1:22:35

in the first challenge. Yeah, right. I wouldn't

1:22:37

say you can you know run a marathon

1:22:39

I mean just move

1:22:42

water from one end of the beach to the next

1:22:44

is not a marathon. Mm-hmm That

1:22:47

I mean what I mean again, I just

1:22:49

say it always took out to me. It's like really

1:22:56

Powan on jaliski. I thank you for taking

1:22:58

just a question. I didn't get big strong

1:23:00

guy from him I got tall guy from

1:23:02

him. That's not all I'm saying Yeah,

1:23:06

okay medium strong

1:23:08

guy Average

1:23:10

true. Hi, you can just say yeah,

1:23:12

that's okay If

1:23:15

I've chosen random as he should have to

1:23:17

be the better pick then everyone was it

1:23:19

a better pick Yes, then everyone would have

1:23:21

had one person each tribe on their

1:23:23

team and that would have been Cool

1:23:26

and unlikely and they're probably obsessed

1:23:28

with how likely that is too. But if I'd

1:23:31

known that was the case, I might have done it Like

1:23:34

if I had knew the parent, thank

1:23:36

you for not because it's opened a

1:23:39

lot of possibilities for for wild endings

1:23:41

this The drop

1:23:43

I'm really excited about it. This is

1:23:45

insane. This is insane And

1:23:50

we gotta tighten up the rules we do I'm sorry now

1:23:52

I'm one of the people who want to talk about the

1:23:54

because we gotta tighten this up There should not be we

1:23:56

should not be in this in this much hell right now.

1:23:59

I will have candy with But best part is

1:24:01

it doesn't get any and then these two people tired

1:24:03

about it Shepell is that I feel like when the

1:24:05

grenade rule was introduced No one

1:24:07

thought we'd be playing out all the combinations

1:24:09

in the first six seasons of the us

1:24:11

running it It was like okay, someone's out

1:24:13

of the draft. We move on but then

1:24:15

you want immediately now. We've got this like

1:24:18

the traitor And chill. Yeah It's

1:24:21

so wild because it was really about the spirit

1:24:23

of the grenade is if you were good enough

1:24:25

to get your other two people In there then

1:24:27

go ahead, you know, like it's kind of like

1:24:29

yeah, like yeah sure it's probably not gonna happen

1:24:31

But good luck, you know, but now it's like

1:24:33

well, even if you don't do that

1:24:35

What if you still have this and this person?

1:24:37

All right, that's like now where I was the

1:24:40

first season we ran it I was out of

1:24:42

the draft night once cuz I was the first

1:24:44

and second Yeah,

1:24:46

and and Deshaun goes all the way to be

1:24:48

second I would have been so livid

1:24:51

if he was first honestly, I got my

1:24:53

that didn't happen. It would not have mattered

1:24:55

We know at that point. Yeah Okay,

1:24:58

there was gonna fulfill that prophecy.

1:25:01

Okay, well, I didn't random you

1:25:04

know Medivac

1:25:06

also, you know Every person in

1:25:08

this season that finds an idol goes out of

1:25:11

the game idols occurs random They really are. Oh

1:25:13

my I forgot he had an idol. Yeah, okay

1:25:16

So interesting picks one two three and 18 all

1:25:18

had idols went out of the game with

1:25:20

them. All right, so just to Tie

1:25:23

this all together. Okay The

1:25:26

scenarios are that Taryn with

1:25:28

Kenzie has been Grenaded Taryn

1:25:31

cannot win the draft even though Kenzie

1:25:34

can win the game. Yeah

1:25:36

Yes, just to talk through the rest of the scenarios

1:25:39

Q for Shannon to win the draft Q

1:25:42

needs to make it to the final

1:25:44

three and come in second place You

1:25:47

can win the game so we don't you can win

1:25:49

the game. Yeah Okay So a

1:25:51

lot of people are like I'm not rooting for Q

1:25:54

But I want you to win a lot of people

1:25:56

said that firstly Q's great I don't endorse but you

1:25:58

can root for Kenzie to win into Q one

1:26:00

board. Yes. Okay. Cool. 7 1 0. New Year.

1:26:02

We're going to come on Q. Okay. For Pouya

1:26:07

to win the draft, Venus

1:26:09

or Ben can

1:26:11

win the game or Venus

1:26:13

or Ben could come in second

1:26:15

place or they both get

1:26:17

into the final trouble with Kenzie or

1:26:19

they both get into the final trouble because the council

1:26:21

of Kenzie. And then did we talk through the scenario

1:26:23

of that? If it's 6 to

1:26:25

1 to 1. So let's say Kenzie

1:26:28

has six votes, one vote

1:26:30

for Venus, one vote for Q.

1:26:32

Yeah. It's the next higher

1:26:35

place. So if it was like Q and Venus. We

1:26:37

established that? That was established? Yes. And that

1:26:39

was one of the main things I said we really need to nail

1:26:41

this down. And you all said you're so annoying. No one cares about

1:26:44

that. And then the people.

1:26:46

No one called you annoying.

1:26:48

I helped establish that rule.

1:26:51

Okay. All right. So

1:26:53

Pouya can win with a tie, even a tied second

1:26:56

place finish for Venus or for Ben. I

1:27:05

mean, I got good outs,

1:27:07

but I think I would lose if

1:27:10

you are in the final trouble with

1:27:12

me. And Charlie be thin. Depending on

1:27:14

how your other two players. Chappelle is

1:27:16

eliminated from the draft on

1:27:18

Vibe. Okay. My guy. Liana has

1:27:21

Maria. Liana can win the

1:27:23

draft with a Maria win

1:27:25

or Maria second place finish

1:27:28

to Kenzie. Yeah. Okay.

1:27:30

But you won't do well with Maria

1:27:32

tie second because then most likely she

1:27:34

won't be able to tie. I would

1:27:36

be yes. Love would. Oh,

1:27:39

you have to tiebreaker again. Liana. If she is,

1:27:41

if it's Kenzie and then like

1:27:44

Maria and someone else tie, then Liana

1:27:47

will lose. Yeah. The definitive second. Okay.

1:27:52

And then Rob can win the

1:27:54

draft with a Charlie win a

1:27:56

Liz win or Charlie or Liz

1:27:59

coming in. second place to

1:28:01

Kenzie. And I think right now

1:28:04

you beat any of us in a high

1:28:06

breaker for a position. Or if a,

1:28:08

you know, one vote for Liz

1:28:11

or Charlie versus with a type of another

1:28:13

person with one vote to lose to Kenzie.

1:28:16

And you're gonna have Ben Liz. Okay. Liz,

1:28:19

I don't like this at all. This feels like, this

1:28:21

feels like, that's it. Yeah, let's just

1:28:23

drop the little things that Kenzie wins. I wanted

1:28:25

to drop a grenade after I got it after

1:28:27

41 and y'all wanted to keep it. Listen,

1:28:30

I don't think the grenade clause needs to

1:28:32

go away. I think the clause is fine.

1:28:35

But I think when you get to the point where you're like, this

1:28:37

person tied, but this person, so we're rolling over.

1:28:39

Just, hey, maybe nobody won this. Let's be honest.

1:28:41

Yeah, maybe, yeah, whoever wins this, maybe the grenade

1:28:44

blows up the whole draft. Yeah, whoever wins this,

1:28:46

you know, we're gonna treat it like it's an

1:28:48

asterisk win. Let's be real. What do you do?

1:28:50

Why are you doing this to someone? What if

1:28:53

Charlie wins? Yeah, if Rob wins,

1:28:55

Gigi, Rob has one win like the rest

1:28:57

of us except for this. Rob not even

1:28:59

a part of this panel. Asterisk, asterisk, sure

1:29:01

did, asterisk. Honestly,

1:29:04

it's pretty baller if Rob comes in, wins the draft

1:29:06

and then leaves again. And then leaves? Yeah, asterisk.

1:29:08

Yeah, I feel like a better winner. Asterisk, asterisk.

1:29:12

Okay. See,

1:29:14

I think you've got the dance. You're

1:29:17

very likely to have someone make it to the final

1:29:19

party. And that's okay. Yeah, no, and I'm okay

1:29:21

with that. I'm very okay with that. I mean, listen. We

1:29:23

have one on merit already, Shannon. It's only you who

1:29:25

was trying to get this witchcraft to get you a

1:29:27

win out of here, okay? The rules of the draft.

1:29:29

I'm so sorry you guys don't know the rules of

1:29:31

game. See, I am the cue. Yeah. All

1:29:34

right. So we've got just a couple of weeks

1:29:36

left here of Survivor. I think

1:29:38

there's what, three Wednesdays left in the

1:29:40

season until we crown the winner of

1:29:42

Survivor 46 and

1:29:44

see what happens. Shannon, anything else

1:29:47

that we didn't discuss here tonight?

1:29:50

I mean, what did we discuss? I honestly don't

1:29:53

remember, but I

1:29:55

feel, I'm excited. And I

1:29:57

believe and I don't doubt you. Never

1:30:00

would and that would be a big

1:30:02

mistake. So Stay

1:30:06

you shouldn't have done that. Thank

1:30:09

you so much. Q. I'll see you in 10 months for

1:30:11

my next birthday Okay,

1:30:15

I want the Q I want it all all

1:30:17

right Shannon I know you're gonna be continuing to

1:30:19

talk about survivor this weekend. Would

1:30:22

you have going on over on a

1:30:24

survivor global? Yes, fucking

1:30:26

affairs I

1:30:30

already won. So that is

1:30:32

yeah fair enough Checkmate

1:30:35

right there. Yeah, you win. Yeah, you could have

1:30:37

just said that and we would have backed off

1:30:39

immediately Yeah, you may not win the draft ever,

1:30:41

but you're definitely winning at life right now. Yeah

1:30:45

All right, what but yeah

1:30:47

doing that by the globe we'll check it out

1:30:50

Okay, be sure to be on the lookout for

1:30:52

that. Okay, uh, Chappelle. What's going on with

1:30:54

you? Robert next Wednesday,

1:30:56

we got stuff going on man. I'm gonna

1:30:58

see you food. Yeah, I'm gonna be great

1:31:00

Yeah, we're gonna be taking this thing on

1:31:02

the road to Chicago Mm-hmm,

1:31:04

and I'm very excited. I've never been to Chicago

1:31:07

before and so that means there's a lot of

1:31:09

Chicago RJP fans that I haven't met

1:31:11

and that we haven't watched the rival with and

1:31:13

so I'm very excited to go and do that

1:31:15

It's gonna be a great time Hopefully

1:31:18

nobody does anything they can just make you

1:31:20

know, make my head explode during the episode

1:31:23

But I don't know maybe that's good

1:31:25

for viewing, you know, we shall see very

1:31:27

excited. Okay Looking

1:31:30

forward to seeing you in

1:31:32

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1:31:34

check out everything else we have going on Dondi

1:31:37

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1:31:40

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1:31:44

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1:31:47

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1:31:49

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1:31:51

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1:31:53

house Martha's Vineyard on recap kickback We

1:31:56

talked about the boondocks on recap kickback. We got a lot

1:31:58

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1:32:01

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yeah, people can subscribe to recap kickback where they get

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their podcast or follow it on social media to keep

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up with All stuff out going on. Okay. All right.

1:32:12

Great job Chappelle Looking

1:32:16

at the draft teams. I'm wondering

1:32:18

if anybody could do the three

1:32:20

tickets to challengers team I

1:32:23

mean, no, not quite doesn't exactly work Yes,

1:32:28

Shannon's gonna be taking

1:32:30

over live after the

1:32:32

episode with Kelly Wentworth

1:32:34

very exciting. Yeah Yeah,

1:32:38

you really are winning in life. Yeah, join

1:32:40

Shannon Wednesday night live after the episode Yeah,

1:32:43

I'm gonna start losing some drafts so I can be like

1:32:48

What kind of for you Well,

1:32:50

I will also be in Chicago even though Chappelle didn't

1:32:52

seem too enthused about seeing me He just said your

1:32:54

name, but it's cool. I'm excited to see both of

1:32:57

you. So I'll be there. It's gonna be fun Why?

1:33:01

Like he said though milf manner. We're gonna have a lot

1:33:03

of fun episode episode

1:33:06

one Dad's big twist of the

1:33:08

season won't spoil it any further. I'm talking mass

1:33:10

singer with Leon I'm talking 90 day fiance on

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a weekly Kirsten Mckinnes was my guest this week

1:33:16

Taryn myself and Mike bloom have been talking circle

1:33:18

all season long, which has been a lot of fun so

1:33:20

we check that out as well and We

1:33:23

talked BB can this week. I was on my

1:33:25

last BB can recap of the season very

1:33:28

fun episode to get to recap with Taryn

1:33:32

Okay speaking of BB

1:33:36

can Taryn well if you got coming

1:33:38

up And Ali is next

1:33:40

week. It's all coming down to

1:33:42

this. So stay tuned didn't find me on

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