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2:31

guys, it's

2:35

Jeff Lueb. I'm

2:39

here to talk about

2:41

the Netflix original

2:43

film Unfrosted. Today,

2:46

Jerry Seinfeld's directorial debut and we've got

2:49

a lot to say about it. Back

2:52

here with a guy who's coming in

2:54

hotter than a pop-tart out of the

2:56

toaster, it's Chappelle. I'm

2:59

actually kind of not feeling it today. I've been

3:01

mourning grandma's holes all day. I didn't know that

3:03

was a serial that I needed. I

3:05

found out about it in this movie and I guess I could have come

3:07

in hot, but I don't know. That really just

3:09

put a damp on me. You ever tried grandma's holes?

3:13

Chappelle, I think you have your

3:15

notes crossed with our Milf Manor

3:17

recap. Oh, that's where they were

3:20

even at the serial. Unfrosted. Yeah,

3:22

you're right because I definitely have Unfrosted

3:24

on my Milf Manor notes for sure.

3:27

But I think if we combine

3:29

those things, I can make it through

3:31

this podcast. I'm good. I'm happy to

3:33

be here. Let's talk. Yeah, let's talk

3:35

about it. I am really interested to

3:37

know your opinion on this as we

3:39

are bringing in some Seinfeld experts here

3:42

with us to talk about Unfrosted. First,

3:45

a man, my co-host for almost

3:48

200 episodes of the

3:51

Seinfeld post-show recap.

3:55

Welcome in, Uncle Kivi, Kivi Winneker. Is grandma's

3:58

holes a real deal? Cereal I'm

4:01

on my work computer Was

4:03

a joke I think that was a joke from

4:05

the no I worker might be I don't know

4:07

Akiva I thought the same thing so I spent

4:09

several hours googling it and I was

4:11

on like page 9 or 10 of the Google results

4:13

and I could not find the actual series. I've got

4:16

a lot of looking Trust

4:18

me listen my work will never end until

4:20

I find grandma's holes Okay, I need to

4:22

find out where the cereal is and we're

4:25

happy to bring back to nothing but Netflix

4:27

a woman who is an expert in Many

4:30

things Seinfeld trivia Seinfeld

4:32

quotes Ali Lasher is here

4:44

I'm very excited to be back with this group

4:47

We've got a lot of material to cover

4:50

yes, okay that unfrosted

4:52

for anybody who is unfamiliar

4:54

is Jerry Seinfeld's

4:57

look at the fictional

4:59

history of the invention

5:01

of the Pop-tart a

5:03

battle of from Battle

5:05

Creek, Michigan between the

5:07

Kellogg Company and the

5:09

post company a race

5:11

to Change the

5:13

history of breakfast and it

5:15

is a star-studded Extravaganza

5:18

and I think has been I don't

5:21

want to say yet polarizing because I feel like I

5:23

haven't seen Very many positive

5:26

reviews of unfrosted Nope,

5:30

I haven't seen any reviews of unfrosted Yeah, I

5:32

think like so I so I don't know if

5:34

anybody's talking about it or not do people not

5:36

like this route So I don't

5:39

want to put my thumb on the scale.

5:41

I did see articles yesterday Really

5:43

panning the film calling

5:46

it horrible I

5:48

watched several reviews on tik-tok

5:50

and they did not like

5:52

it But to

5:54

say I thoroughly

5:56

enjoyed it how about that

5:59

Wow? I'm not surprised. Yeah.

6:02

Yeah. I guess my

6:05

question, like if I'm a TikToker, my question for

6:07

the movie is who is this for? And I

6:09

mean that. Cause there was moments where I thought

6:11

this is a children's story. This is a story

6:13

for kids. This is a fairy tale. This is

6:15

fictional. Got it. But the

6:18

jokes were very crude. I mean,

6:20

grandma's holes, several other random references

6:22

throughout where I'm thinking, maybe

6:24

this isn't for kids. It's kind of giving

6:26

me like who framed Roger Rabbit vibes where

6:28

it's like a cartoon. Yes. But

6:30

also not for children. This was not a movie

6:33

for kids. Right. But

6:35

it felt very childlike. You know, like, I don't know, but

6:37

like which adults are sitting at home. Like, you know what

6:39

I want to watch? I don't watch Unfrosted.

6:41

Like if I had to come up with something to

6:43

watch that is not for children, this would not be

6:46

it. So maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's just

6:48

missing the mark on what its demographic is supposed to

6:50

be. I don't think it's missing the mark on its

6:52

demographic. I think that it's a demographic or people who

6:55

were children when these

6:57

things were happening. And

6:59

I think that it is not for

7:02

a younger audience, but I am interested

7:04

to know the rest of the

7:06

panel, what the reviews were. So

7:10

I was going to say, I think

7:12

the target audience of this was Jerry

7:14

Seinfeld and his peers. Like this is

7:17

so like, you

7:19

know, jam packed. Yeah.

7:22

I like what you did there, Allie. Jerry Seinfeld,

7:24

yes. Yeah. It's both, yeah.

7:27

With Jerry Seinfeld's like mentality,

7:30

ethos, his style of jokes, especially

7:32

like recently, but not even recently,

7:35

just like historically. And

7:37

I watched this movie with its target audience,

7:39

which was my mom. So like

7:41

that, she loved like the nostalgia,

7:44

especially in the beginning. Like, I

7:46

think it hits with definitely a

7:48

certain crowd, not to say anything about

7:51

Rob, but I also really was like

7:53

prepared to defend this with a

7:56

huge, you know, a huge defense until.

8:00

I say 50 minutes into the movie so Rob I

8:02

was with you until I think the US Military

8:05

came to airlift them and that's when I think wheels.

8:07

Yes, okay Keep

8:09

it what about for you? Yeah,

8:12

I was wondering all of the move Who is it

8:14

for because I didn't know anything about the movie other

8:16

than it was about pop-tarts So I thought it was

8:18

an animated movie and I was sort of surprised we

8:20

were even watching it But then I

8:22

realized like no, okay fine. This is

8:24

live-action and so I started to view

8:27

Movies like this and I think it may be

8:29

as instructed for Rob also because we have boys

8:32

similar age Would this be something

8:34

our sons would be interested in and I

8:36

don't think so. I don't think there's enough gags or Like

8:40

pratfalls or things like that a lot of the

8:42

jokes that they're trying are really going I mean

8:44

you said people who grew up with this Serial

8:48

battle as I'm sure was big news post and Kellogg

8:50

and Battle Creek, Michigan in the 60s, but that's really

8:52

our parents That's not even our generation right then. Mm-hmm.

8:54

That's our parents in the end because this movie said

8:56

in like 1963 And

8:58

it's not there's not a lot of things very 60s about it

9:01

other than references The movie doesn't really make you feel like you're

9:03

in the 60s a lot of the time I

9:05

did I I see a lot

9:07

of the reviews are pans I did read the New York

9:09

Times review that actually really liked it. So the paper of

9:11

record thinks is a good movie I

9:14

I wonder If

9:17

it's not really sure who it's for but

9:19

I sort of I wouldn't say it's

9:21

a good movie But I also enjoyed it. Yeah.

9:23

Okay good I think that

9:25

the movie like and a lot of the reviews

9:27

I really felt like didn't get it And I don't

9:29

know if this is like a style of movie that

9:32

is not Invoke but I think

9:34

that if you're looking at it through the

9:36

lens of it being like some of the

9:38

movies that Were the

9:40

big comedy films of like the 80s

9:42

and 90s sort of like the Naked

9:45

Gun or Airplane

9:47

or Hot Shots or these types of

9:49

movies or even later into like the

9:51

scary movie era Like I

9:53

do feel like that. This is like a

9:56

parody movie of a bunch of things and

9:58

a lot of the reviews I

10:00

saw were talking about, well, this story

10:02

wasn't didn't even make sense. And it

10:04

was like, I thought it was this

10:06

type of movie. It was just like,

10:09

it's just jokes. That's really don't don't

10:11

take it too seriously. Yeah,

10:14

I see. I went into the movie thinking that

10:16

I see I didn't think it was animated, but

10:18

I didn't think it was fiction either. I thought

10:20

we were about to get like a saving Mr.

10:22

Banks, but pop pop-tarts, right? So I'm sitting there

10:24

thinking, oh, well, this will be fun. And then

10:26

several seconds into the wait, wait, hold on pause.

10:28

There's no way this is actually happening. There's no

10:30

way that this is how this went down. And

10:32

so then I tried to transform the way I'm

10:34

watching it. Right. So at that point, I'm thinking,

10:36

oh, well, this will be fun. And I did

10:38

have fun watching it. I'm not going to lie.

10:40

I didn't I didn't hate the movie, but

10:42

I'm not ranting and raving about it, but I definitely

10:45

not going to bash it. Like, there's nothing to bash.

10:47

It's just a movie that if you liked it, you

10:49

liked it. If you didn't, you didn't. But 20 years

10:51

from now, no one's going to be like, hey, man,

10:53

you ever see Unfrosted? It's like, no, I watched it

10:55

that one time it happened and it went away. You

10:57

know, this is this has been perfect for like a

10:59

TV special with 19000 commercials. It would have been fine.

11:03

I was surprised to hear you say you don't

11:05

think there was enough gags to keep your kids

11:07

entertained, which like I you know, I defer to

11:09

the kid havers on that. But it

11:11

seemed like there were so many gags and so

11:14

many expensive gags. Like, I don't know what

11:16

movies cost. And I tried to find out

11:18

what the budget for this movie was. But

11:20

like between the cast,

11:23

like, I don't even want to say cameos,

11:25

like even just the most minor characters were like

11:27

big celebrities. And then, of course, there were some

11:30

notable cameos we'll talk about. But like multiple

11:32

locations, I mean, it could have been sets, but

11:34

like it just felt like no

11:36

expense was spared for an 86 minute

11:39

Netflix movie. Yeah. This

11:42

was like the we are the world of

11:44

comedy. I mean, that every single person who

11:47

is like a fixture

11:49

like in, you know, comedy

11:51

or like comedy television

11:54

in the last 30 years, like had a good shot

11:56

to be in this movie. You

11:58

had the full cast of the neighborhood. That

12:00

speaks volumes. My mom was

12:02

so excited about that. Lost her mind at

12:04

Cedric the entertainer. Yeah,

12:07

a ton of SNL people, a ton

12:09

of famous comedians are here in this

12:11

movie. And so that, I

12:14

mean, Peter Dinklage, John

12:16

Ham, I mean, the

12:19

cast goes on and on and

12:21

on for this movie. Look at

12:23

the Wikipedia. They had me

12:25

at the Mad Men reference. They really did. I was like, okay,

12:27

all right, I'm back. You know, like, cause like I said, I

12:29

was in and out. There were moments where I was like, what

12:31

is, what am I doing here? What are we watching? And then

12:33

they get to the Mad Men reference and say, okay, that is

12:35

just, that is just like, nail on the

12:37

head enough for me to be like, okay, I see

12:39

what's happening. This is cool. Yeah.

12:43

Listen, star study cast. Now I'm with Ally

12:45

though. How much does it cost

12:47

to get all these people? Because this

12:49

Peter Dinklage alone cost a

12:52

trillion dollars. So like, I

12:54

think people do it for as

12:56

a favorite Jerry. Yeah. I think it was, I

12:58

think it was favors because, uh, or

13:00

maybe to Netflix, maybe all these people will be in

13:02

other Netflix projects. And this was like of the plus

13:04

one because I see, I see IMDB

13:07

reporting that the budget was supposed

13:09

to be $14 million that may have been before

13:11

they actually filmed it. They also filmed this movie

13:13

in like 2022. And because it's Netflix, like sometimes

13:15

movies get filmed like, Hey, we don't have a

13:17

weekend to open this. You know, it's really a

13:19

blockbuster because it's Netflix and they don't have that

13:21

to me, it feels like they were probably tinkering

13:23

and re shooting and fixing things for like two

13:25

years because why else, especially with the

13:28

writer's strike and stuff, why else wouldn't they have

13:30

dropped this? They probably weren't. You guys have a

13:32

better feel on like what Netflix is super pumped

13:35

about. I have a feeling this is not one

13:37

of them. Although Sunfield is doing a massive media

13:39

tour for this movie, which he doesn't normally do.

13:41

Yeah. This is like B-movie. He had a week

13:43

this week. He was very much talked about. 70th

13:45

birthday. Also happy birthday

13:47

to Jerry. Can we just stop down

13:50

and talk about Pop-Tarts for a second?

13:52

And I feel like it's not something

13:54

that we've talked about much. Okay. Chappelle,

13:56

Pop-Tart guy. Oh yeah. What kid,

14:00

okay? Go get home. You have to get your lunch

14:02

and before you go to school, you have to make

14:04

a breakfast and pop tarts were right there. You you

14:06

put them in the toaster. They're great or if you're

14:08

on the go like me, you don't put it in

14:10

the toaster. You just eat it right out the package.

14:12

Just raw dog it and so uh yeah, I have

14:14

a lot of experience with the pop tarts. Personally,

14:17

I'd prefer frosted than unfrosted but

14:19

that's just me. Obviously, we're not gonna get into

14:21

that too much into this movie but yeah, I

14:23

love a good pop tart. Yeah. Ally,

14:26

are you a pop tartar? You say

14:28

we're not gonna get into it too much but

14:30

if you wanted to switch gears and just fully,

14:33

I'd listen to you debate the merits between unfrosted

14:35

pop tarts and frosted pop tarts. Yeah, I so

14:37

I was like not allowed to

14:39

have any good pop tarts at my house. So,

14:41

I only had the unfrosted like strawberry or blueberry

14:44

because I guess those were the closest sounding to

14:46

actual fruit. What's a good pop tart? It's like

14:48

wild berry frosted apple

14:50

cinnamon like cherry the blue

14:52

frosting with the purple swirl or

14:54

the wild. Yes, the wild ones.

14:57

Yes. Yes, Ally. You know.

14:59

Thank you. I'm sorry. So, I had to have just

15:01

like one dry, unfrosted, usually

15:03

unt roasted pop tart. What a

15:05

tragedy uh cuz I

15:07

wasn't like you know allowed

15:10

to have sugary stuff but then at my friend's house,

15:12

I'd go bananas when I'd see it. Yeah. Big fan.

15:14

Big fan. Yeah. I think you gotta

15:16

give the kids a little bit of the sugar cuz

15:19

then they get to the friend's house and then and

15:21

they go. Yeah. Like we the the kids

15:23

have like friends that they're not allowed to have

15:26

candy. Not that we have so much candy but

15:28

they just like fiend and like take candy out

15:30

of places that like that we have like a

15:32

candy that's been sitting someplace for like forever and

15:35

they're just like take everything. Uh it's

15:37

insane. Are pop tarts

15:39

Koshk I was just about to

15:41

ask the same question. So, no. Kellogg's pop

15:44

tarts are not kosher but every like knock

15:46

off pop tart like Trader Joe's and everyone

15:48

else are but even though almost every Kellogg's

15:50

cereal is kosher, the pop tarts have never

15:52

been to my knowledge. I guess

15:54

gel it. There must be like yeah, there's

15:56

gel in there. There's big stuff. Yeah. So

16:00

they lied when they said Pectin. They

16:02

lied. What's his name? Sebastian

16:04

Maniscalco couldn't get the right formula

16:07

in his spying. Well maybe they changed

16:09

it since 1962. I don't know what's been

16:11

going on. And then I

16:13

really never was exposed to Pop-Tarts

16:15

as a kid. It was not

16:17

something that my mom ever purchased

16:19

and so I really had like

16:21

no interaction with Pop-Tart

16:23

until I was in

16:26

college. They were in the

16:28

vending machine in my dorm and I feel

16:30

like that for like pound for pound, quarter

16:33

for quarter, that was like the most

16:35

sustenance that you were going to get

16:37

out of the vending machine. I think

16:40

there was a Pop-Tart and also microwave

16:42

Pop-Carn. Those were the two

16:44

things that would get the most bang

16:46

for the buck as opposed to like

16:48

a Twix there in the vending machine.

16:51

So I had some then but I'm

16:54

not a big Pop-Tart guy. No,

16:57

I'm a Pop-Tart OG. Like I

16:59

said, there were times where I would go

17:01

because again, funds were limited and so I

17:03

knew I had to be able to feed

17:05

myself with limited resources. So

17:07

it's like, okay, we got

17:09

to give you breakfast for the week or the month or

17:11

whatever. So get what you need. I'm like loading up the

17:13

Pop-Tarts because I don't have time to cook in the morning.

17:15

I'm also a child so I'm not going to do that.

17:19

But as you mentioned, kids going crazy when

17:21

they go to other people's houses, I think

17:24

kids just naturally want what other kids have

17:26

anyway because I have Pop-Tarts and it never occurred

17:28

to me that I was like something, a thing

17:30

that other kids didn't have. But what I really

17:32

wanted was toaster strudels. I felt like all

17:34

the rich kids had those. Yeah, I was like,

17:36

I can't get my hands on those. I won't

17:38

buy them because they're so expensive. These

17:40

must be what the rich kids are eating. I never had a

17:42

toaster strudel day in my life. So I always thought that was

17:44

like the upgrade of the Pop-Tarts. Do you still want one? Yeah,

17:48

desperately. I want that. I

17:50

want a pony. We

17:52

might be able to get you a toaster strudel in Chicago.

17:55

Yeah, and I'm in Texas. There's literally a horse right there. So if

17:57

I need a pony, I could get one. I'm just saying. I

18:00

could get a toaster shruttle here too, but um, you know,

18:02

it's just one of those things They're just like I never

18:04

had one but now that you mentioned that I

18:06

never had a toaster shruttle either But something

18:09

about the like the slimy frozen

18:11

half frozen frosting packet that came

18:13

with it that you Good

18:17

or bad as appealing I've never

18:19

had it but didn't appeal to me, you know, it

18:21

wasn't on offer But when I saw it, it's

18:23

like that like half frozen doo Yeah,

18:25

not out of a trash can at least no

18:29

The kids in this movie, okay Well, let

18:31

me see if we can try to attempt

18:33

to describe the plot of unfrosted unfrosted

18:36

is an exploration of the

18:38

world of Serial that

18:40

I do think that this is like

18:42

a very Seinfeld thing to like I

18:44

think that the closest thing Akiva that

18:46

we have to this is sort of

18:48

like the way that Seinfeld treats like

18:50

the Postal service in

18:53

Seinfeld the people that work

18:55

at the store or in

18:57

this line of work that

18:59

their entire lives are Sort

19:02

of like defined by their occupation like

19:04

I feel like it's a very like

19:07

Seinfeld II in worldview and that's how we

19:09

treat the serial industry Well

19:12

the serial industry this movie they make it seem like it

19:14

is probably the biggest thing going like these are the two

19:16

Yes, this is like the Amazon and Google of 1960 Battle

19:20

Creek, Michigan and it is interesting because

19:22

it's if they play it as like a post verse

19:24

Kellogg battle And there's like a couple jokes about Quaker

19:26

Oats, but we

19:29

really mostly see the you know We're on

19:31

the Kellogg side of things And

19:33

we're really introduced to this world and to

19:35

me that I made the analogy of that

19:37

I feel like that this is almost like

19:40

the boogie nights of cereal like we're really

19:42

seeing what it's like to live in this

19:44

world What it's like to be like a

19:46

sensation in this world and get all of

19:49

the acclaim what's respected in this world And

19:51

so we're getting this deep dive into the

19:53

world of Kellogg's in their battle against post

19:56

and we're finding out that Post

19:58

is working on

20:01

something big by the way

20:03

of some kids who dive

20:05

in a dumpster they're

20:07

combining some pastry

20:12

with some goo and

20:14

they're saying this is a tell that post

20:17

is up to something yeah

20:19

these kids are in the dumpster several times

20:21

throughout this I was I felt so uncomfortable

20:23

about these kids you know I was like

20:25

okay first are they on house no they're

20:27

fine they just like to dumpster dive for

20:29

food these kids are disgusting but then also

20:31

when they come up with the goo they

20:33

said try this it's amazing I

20:36

was appalled when I saw Jerry Seinfeld

20:38

eat the goo yeah because you watch

20:40

these people dive through a dumpster you watch them yeah

20:42

there's no snack in the world that would make me

20:44

eat it out of that was off pudding

20:46

to see Jerry eat something out of the

20:49

garbage adjacent to refuse

20:51

is recipe there there's no

20:53

that like really bothered me more than

20:55

anything in this movie Jerry Seinfeld would

20:57

never eat something out of a garbage

21:00

I'm shocked he was willing to write

21:02

this in to the script that he

21:04

was willing to participate that he didn't

21:06

have the jim gaffigan character do it

21:09

like I like truly can't believe that

21:11

Jerry would do this took me out

21:13

of the whole thing yeah it

21:16

was a wild moment it was shocking

21:18

it was shocking with the marshmallows and

21:22

the right script the second time I

21:24

was in disbelief I legit was like there's no way

21:26

he's gonna do this twice in one movie there's no

21:28

way there's no way you're gonna eat out of that

21:30

dumpster and he did I was done I was done

21:32

and I know it's fake mm-hmm but I still I

21:34

just my mind cannot separate that that's a dumpster stop

21:36

it yeah so can someone explain that part take

21:38

because a lot happened to this movie where

21:41

like if you like look down or you get

21:43

distracted for a millisecond like someone's blown up and

21:45

died you don't know how it happened so like

21:48

in the garbage scene it's

21:50

the kids were putting it together or

21:52

I thought that was evidence of how post was

21:54

putting it together the first the premier

21:58

garbage scene the first one Yeah,

22:01

so posts had already been developing a pop-tart and

22:03

so the kids realized it because they'd be in

22:05

trash cans and so they now are dumpster diving

22:07

because they are trying to get the remnants of

22:10

whatever post is doing, but post hasn't

22:12

perfected it yet. So they're just catching

22:14

like the leftover pop-tart

22:16

junk, but Kellogg's was already

22:18

creating it. Right. Posters

22:21

had installed their research and got

22:23

it popping. And so that's how

22:25

the kids ended up really... Yeah,

22:27

kids are the ones who lit

22:29

the fire under Jerry Seinfeld's ass

22:31

to make him go and push

22:33

the pop-tart movement a little bit

22:35

harder. There was a lot of

22:37

corporate espionage going on where Jerry's

22:40

character, Cabana, had been working on

22:42

the original pop-tart recipe and then

22:44

threw it away, thought it couldn't

22:46

be done and then it turns

22:48

out that Post had an inside

22:50

person on the job. We

22:53

see that when Kellogg's is trying to spy

22:55

on Post, a guy has like a mop

22:58

camera to try to see some of these

23:00

meetings. Meanwhile we

23:02

see that Post has

23:05

some sort of like

23:07

floor-shiner cam and

23:09

that's how they got the corporate secrets

23:12

from Kellogg's. That was funny. Very

23:15

peely hermin. Yeah, very peely hermin. Okay. One

23:18

of the things I really did like about this

23:20

movie was that the life they

23:22

brought to some of the

23:24

iconic serial characters, most

23:27

notably Hugh Grant plays

23:30

the character who is...

23:33

his name is Thurl, Thurl

23:35

Ravenscroft and he is more

23:37

known by his stage name

23:39

of Tony the Tiger. Very

23:42

similar if anybody saw the new Wonka movie

23:44

to the role Hugh Grant plays in

23:46

that film and Hugh

23:49

Grant is a thespian

23:51

of the stage and feels a little

23:53

bit like that the role of Tony

23:55

the Tiger is beneath him. Apparently

23:59

this was... So Thurlow is the guy's

24:01

real name who played Tony the Tiger and apparently

24:03

he was like always holding out for more money

24:05

Oh Wow, leave it Reevis style I

24:08

will but if someone is just listening to this

24:10

podcast and they are not planning on watching the

24:12

movie and they're wondering them to Themselves

24:15

in this movie. Is there a

24:17

January 6th style? Insurrection let

24:19

by the mascots. The answer is yes

24:23

They're in fact is they do do

24:25

January 6th as like that was their

24:27

inspiration this happened Not they wrote it not

24:29

so long after I heard that it was in the film

24:31

and I still thought it was well done the

24:38

Mean they're climbing on top of the Kellogg's

24:41

Tower. It is completely insane actually Yeah,

24:44

but yes that is in the movie if you were

24:46

wondering I'm glad you make the reference to

24:48

the Wonka movie because Hugh Grant like Bad

24:52

mouth that that situation after like during

24:54

the press but here I was like

24:56

so shocked I mean he

24:58

was great, you know great as

25:01

it's like That

25:03

is this like, you know after

25:05

trying to play this role trying

25:07

to be beyond this Character

25:10

but then I read articles that like

25:13

Hugh Grant sent in an audition for this It's

25:15

like the first time in 30 years He

25:17

sent an audition tape in and it was unclear.

25:19

I had to read a few articles Like Jerry

25:21

said he sent in the tape totally

25:23

in character after he had already gotten

25:26

the role So who knows but

25:28

I couldn't believe that Hugh Grant would be

25:30

so dedicated to wanting to play this role

25:33

But so down on the Oompa Loompa roll.

25:35

I was like I

25:37

think the makeup because I think that behind Tony

25:40

the tar the tiger was a like classically

25:42

trained lesbian and maybe

25:45

that's what it was as opposed to

25:47

playing an Oompa Loompa Yeah,

25:49

or body paint in the insurrection though.

25:51

That's true. I did though Ravencroft

25:55

is the voice of the you're a mean one

25:57

Mr. Grinch song and so oh

25:59

is very much a trained actor. And,

26:01

you know, I'm sure Hugh Grant probably

26:03

was like, hey, that's one of, you

26:05

know, one of the leaders of stage

26:08

and all the other stuff like

26:11

he probably feels some type of

26:13

kinship to this man, as opposed

26:15

to an Oompa Loompa. Yeah. Now,

26:17

we also have a Snap, Crackle

26:19

and Pop played by Kyle Mooney,

26:21

Mikey Day, and then

26:24

Drew Tarver is the

26:27

third one there. I don't know

26:29

if they were based on real characters. Snap

26:32

Crackle and Pop? Are there live action

26:34

Snap Crackle Pop? I'm not sure. I'm not familiar

26:37

with them. I'm not sure. I did Google the

26:40

original Tony the Tiger, like mascot costume did

26:42

look like the one that Hugh Grant was

26:44

wearing, but that was one of

26:46

my LOL moments in the movie when Jerry's having

26:48

like a confrontation with Snap Crackle and Pop. And

26:50

he's like, how about poop, slap and smile because

26:52

I could replace this whole act like that. It's

26:56

true. Where do they get off?

26:58

They have the smallest role of any of the mascots.

27:00

They don't even have like a catchphrase. They just are

27:02

there. So it's like we could just put another person

27:04

in this outfit, pick another sound and you're

27:07

done for it. So yeah, he gets them out of there

27:09

really quickly. All right. Well, as

27:12

Jerry's character, Cabana, that

27:14

he is opining to the head

27:16

of Kellogg's played

27:19

by Jim Gaffigan, who

27:21

is very funny in the movie

27:23

that they need to get back

27:26

Stan who is played by Melissa

27:28

McCarthy. Yeah. She's

27:30

fun in here. I think

27:33

I missed her. You know, like I was watching this thing

27:35

game. Why is Melissa McCarthy here? And I said, no, I

27:37

kind of like this. I like this a lot. I like

27:39

this role. She's very much like his

27:42

partner in crime when it comes to the

27:44

development of this stuff now. So she's left

27:46

the cereal industry because she doesn't want to

27:48

work for Edsel Kellogg anymore. She basically went

27:50

to go work for NASA. And this is

27:52

1963, really

27:54

helping with launching, I mean, literally the

27:56

moon landing. Like that's what she's currently

27:58

working on. He drags her away from

28:01

that life to say, okay, well, we could use

28:03

you more over in the cereal

28:05

industry because we have our own space race

28:07

of sorts going on over there. We have

28:09

to beat Post into getting out this alternate

28:13

to, I guess, to

28:15

cereals. The issues that they've been having is

28:17

that no one has figured out how to

28:19

keep fruit from going bad on the shelves.

28:22

They're trying to figure out what the issue is

28:24

and what Post has done that's going to seemingly

28:26

make this work. He had to call in the

28:28

big guns. He had to call in Stan. Yeah.

28:30

And Stan comes back and now

28:32

we are a whole task force

28:34

of people that are going to

28:37

be working on taking over a

28:39

big space at the Kellogg plants.

28:42

And we bring in a bunch

28:44

of other icons from

28:46

Tom Carvel, Steve

28:49

Schwinn, Chef Boyardee, Jack

28:52

LaLanne, who is played

28:56

by Dirk Diddler.

28:59

No, not Mark Wahlberg. Yeah, James Marsden. Well, you

29:01

said it was like... We're a good guy. Yeah,

29:03

that is a similarity. Yeah, well, that's one similarity.

29:08

Well, you know, we get a

29:10

good look at James Marsden in this film

29:12

as well. There's a smart, like

29:14

a computer, a supercomputer from IBM that

29:16

says, hey, that guy is free balling.

29:19

And I was like, yeah, this isn't for kids. This isn't for kids. This guy

29:21

has his junk on display. Yeah. Well, I

29:23

guess that that was a thing with Jack LaLanne.

29:25

Did you ever see Jack LaLanne on any of

29:27

these like infomercials? No,

29:30

I'm actually... You were playing underwear? Well,

29:32

I don't know. So when I was a

29:34

kid and Jack LaLanne used to have a

29:36

lot of infomercials for like the juicer,

29:40

he was like an older man, but it was

29:42

like, oh, look at him. He's like 80 and

29:44

he's so virile and he'd like be like, like

29:46

flexing and stuff. They didn't really, they

29:48

didn't show him from the waist down. I don't know. Maybe

29:51

it was the thing in person. Yeah. He's a body suit

29:53

guy. And I guess when you wear so many of those, you

29:55

know, they're hard to cover up in certain

29:57

aspects, but they really make a meal out of it in

29:59

this. movie where they're like, hey, Jack,

30:01

we need you to put on pants

30:03

or something to cover up your lower

30:05

extremities because you got some things going

30:07

on down there. But I loved all

30:09

the people that they brought in. You

30:12

had Thomas Lennon, who they

30:14

brought in. You had Bobby Moynihan that they brought

30:16

in. And

30:18

from, I can't

30:20

keep up with all the people that are in the movie. They're

30:24

legitimately like 35. tennis from

30:26

30 Rock. Yes, Schwinn. John

30:30

Hammond and Slattery make an appearance. There's

30:32

legitimately like 35, 40 objectively famous

30:35

people who make an appearance in this movie. There's

30:38

no way they pay them. That's what I'm sort of coming around. They had

30:40

to give them like, like the per diem and

30:42

there's some other thing because it's, I

30:44

can't imagine they spent, you know, 60, $70

30:47

million on this movie. But Ali insulting.

30:49

Oh yeah, go ahead. Chappelle. Well, my question

30:51

was, I say what I'm insulted by just

30:54

the thing. Q Grant, like sent in an audition tape to not

30:56

get paid for this role. It just seems so wild to me.

30:59

Yeah. I don't know if maybe like the

31:01

true main cast like Gaffigan Schumer, Melissa McCarthy, like

31:03

there's like six or seven, I would say

31:06

like real main

31:08

cast here and like the Schwinn, you could

31:10

see like them shooting, you know, the Schwinn

31:12

chef for our D pieces in like one

31:14

day, you know, the rest of the people.

31:16

It's like just a couple scenes on one

31:19

costume. But what's insulting to these people to

31:21

me is like Jerry did an interview. I

31:23

forget if it was in like the heart.

31:26

I would report or something else. But he said

31:28

like, luckily acting

31:30

was very low on our list of job requirements

31:32

to be in this movie. Basically, it was could

31:34

you get here on this day was what we

31:36

cared about, which is insane to say when you

31:38

have like an A list like

31:40

full cast, including people who have one line. Yeah,

31:43

that a group text to people, basically, whoever showed

31:45

up like in his 100 most asked to

31:48

be what happened like, All right, well, here's when we're shooting, whoever

31:50

shows up first, they're like the head of the milk conglomerate.

31:53

And then shows up. And

31:56

also, because Ali and I are host

31:58

the new girl podcast, our old friend, Matt, Greenfield

32:00

is one of the main characters. He's

32:02

like the number two to Amy Schumer

32:04

at the post company. He

32:06

doesn't have like the juiciest role honestly. Yeah, but

32:08

he's funny whenever he's on the screen. To

32:11

which my mom screamed, oh, I love him,

32:13

Greenberg. She just thought it was the name,

32:15

but because you know, also started the neighborhood.

32:17

But yeah, a couple of New Girl, there

32:21

was a cameo from Robbie from New

32:23

Girl was in this. A

32:25

lot of crossover. And

32:28

I think that a lot of

32:30

these people, like there's a lot of reverence for

32:32

Jerry. And I think that, you know, that you

32:34

have a lot of different opportunities, I think, to

32:36

act in things. But I feel like that when

32:39

it's Jerry Seinfeld's directorial debut, I think a lot

32:41

of people just wanted to show up to be

32:43

in this film, especially when they hear about all

32:45

the other names that are going to be there.

32:48

Yeah, that's pretty cool. Especially when

32:50

you think about who is playing

32:52

which roles, right? Because Jim Gaffigan

32:54

is basically the second or third

32:56

lead in this. And I

32:58

don't think he's been the second or third lead

33:00

in a movie ever. You know, like he's so high

33:02

up on the call sheet, where it's like, you

33:05

do realize that you had like Jon Hamm

33:07

and James Martin. You had all these

33:10

people in this, like Amy Schumer is the leading

33:13

lady here. No disrespect to Amy Schumer. This is

33:15

actually probably the role I liked her the most

33:17

in ever. But it's just like, when

33:20

I guess I guess they got there, they got

33:22

the group text, then they got there. And it's

33:24

like a big trunk of all the the costumes

33:26

like reaching there and get whichever one you are.

33:28

And then that's just who you are. It's like

33:30

it feels like it was first come first serve.

33:32

Yeah, I think there were probably like a lot

33:34

of like day players, the people that they had

33:36

for like a day versus the people that were

33:38

like the real life Jerry friends like Jim Gaffigan,

33:40

who were just sort of like promised the part

33:42

and were there for the extent of how long

33:45

they shot this thing for. Mm

33:47

hmm. Yeah, I can see that.

33:49

Okay. So the movie then

33:51

goes into like a bunch of

33:53

like mini like parodies of different

33:56

things where we have a

33:58

point where Alright, Amy

34:01

Schumer's Margie Post

34:03

character is like feeling like, okay,

34:05

we need to have a sit

34:08

down. And so now

34:10

we're sort of like doing like

34:12

a mob movie Godfather type parody

34:14

where Sebastian Maniscalco is

34:17

there and we're having a meeting

34:19

of the five families to talk

34:21

about the five major serial

34:23

families. Do they make it clear who the other

34:25

families are though? I feel like we were three.

34:27

I think the Quaker O'Dell is there, right? It

34:29

was General Mills, Kellogg's General Mills

34:31

and... General Mills gets

34:34

very little publicity in this movie. That's true.

34:36

That was the first time they named him and I was

34:38

thinking maybe they couldn't get like clear legally to talk about

34:40

him. It's a good point, Chappelle. How did they get like

34:43

Kellogg's did not approve

34:45

anything in this movie. They didn't run it by Kellogg's. How

34:48

is it allowed that they're just like pretending? Because

34:50

even like Jim Gaffigan is from the Kellogg's family

34:52

and he's in charge and like he's a blithering

34:54

idiot, right? Jerry had said in an interview, he

34:56

said, I dare them to sue me. Damn.

35:00

Imagine being that rich. Alright,

35:03

somebody, but you're right, but not only

35:05

is these like big huge corporations, but

35:08

also these are people's likenesses. They're

35:12

actually talking about people who exist. So

35:14

if the estate of that

35:16

guy who's free balling, Jack LaLanne,

35:18

what if they have something to say?

35:21

I don't know. I feel like he's playing with fire.

35:23

Just being like, what, whatever. I'll just throw a bunch of like,

35:26

you know, real people and real businesses and real

35:28

situations into this and just see what happens. I

35:31

don't know. There's a very ballsy

35:33

for lack of a better word. Like

35:35

Jack LaLanne. Like, uh,

35:37

it's, uh, my

35:40

brain just broke. It's a parody. That's

35:42

parody. It's all parody. Yeah. But

35:45

I don't know. Maybe they did have kind

35:47

of like an under the table kind of

35:49

deal because there are like commercials that are

35:51

on like, uh, like Pop-Tarts or like, I

35:54

guess it's trying to lean into it and

35:56

then they're like, we're very mad at Jerry

35:58

Seinfeld. And like, they're doing like, uh, like

36:00

Jerry. I did not have permission to make

36:02

this pop-tart movie. So I don't know I think

36:04

that they're trying to go for like oh, it's gonna be like

36:06

the Barbie movie for you guys Maybe

36:09

anything. Yeah, it did

36:11

anything make you want a bowl of cereal more than

36:14

this movie I mean besides the grave the very not

36:16

a pop-tart The full

36:18

not not a pop-tart. I mean,

36:21

I could get take a pop-tart now after this. Mm-hmm

36:24

The movie that I feel like was

36:26

more about like glamorizing cereal. I felt

36:28

like them glamorizing pop-tarts Yeah,

36:30

or at the very least glamorizing Kellogg's But I

36:32

think yeah if you're a part of one of

36:34

the other families I think you're even okay with

36:36

that because if I'm if I'm the head of

36:38

post I'm thinking why would you make me look

36:41

like? This the entire time like you make us

36:43

look like we were always second to Kellogg's and

36:45

to be fair I had to Google what a

36:47

post cereal was What

36:49

does honeybud to the votes? And

36:51

I do like honey bunches of oats, but that's not

36:53

gonna be there. Oh, that was my favorite And

36:56

I was like what about I thought General Mills had

36:58

the honeycombs, you know So that's why I was like

37:00

what and so I had to really sit down and go

37:02

through and look at what was post bringing To the

37:04

table at the time. Yeah, and it wasn't a lot

37:07

But I think what Kellogg's does to kind of

37:09

even the playing field is that they very clearly

37:11

say yeah Kellogg's is winning all these awards, but

37:13

we also own the awards, you know There's

37:17

like several times where they're self-deprecating enough

37:19

to where if I'm post General Mills

37:21

Quaker, whatever I'm like, all right. I guess

37:23

I'll let it slide Akiva you once upon

37:25

a time used to have serial influencer in

37:27

your Twitter bio Yes, yes

37:31

Are you gonna get back in the game? well,

37:33

I was thinking during this movie that

37:36

I a More

37:38

serious like slightly comedic like

37:40

dark comedy movie about like the serial

37:42

battle between Kellogg's and post Would

37:44

be a great prestige TV show I think I

37:47

do think like a whole season of them going

37:49

back and forth, You know Inventing

37:51

different cereals and stuff. I Love the idea of

37:53

them like going through each other's garbage for you

37:56

know, spying I wonder if that really happens like

37:58

Coke and Pepsi send people into like. Got

38:00

a company garbage and stuff. So. I

38:02

wanna live in this universe long for sure.

38:04

I'm You know I'm serial diehards. I would

38:06

love it. Yeah I'm given name for the

38:09

shelf. Ah,

38:11

his good question. Ah,

38:16

Ah, serial killers and know

38:18

this as a male headship,

38:20

know you're hired Us are

38:22

right? So. After all

38:24

we have a meeting of the

38:26

five families. okay it's ah with

38:28

the within the as a little

38:31

bit of a parody of like

38:33

any of these are like go.

38:36

You. Know a drug kingpin that movies

38:38

where we're going to go visit

38:40

else who gray because Kellogg's is

38:42

trying to corner the market on

38:44

sugar and they and that would

38:46

you you know remember what they

38:48

went to go see Elsa Gray.

38:51

Puerto. Rico I think. Okay ah

38:53

and they go down and they

38:55

meet with the kingpin of the

38:57

white powder, her of the sugar

38:59

and a buyout all of else

39:01

who Gray supplies is a funny

39:03

scene where somebody is doing like

39:06

some entertainment and does like of

39:08

intro, a quiz show and a

39:10

ventriloquist. Is it

39:12

does eventually with dummy insults

39:14

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39:16

home I believe he says

39:18

is it the a bad.

39:21

Drought. In the that our

39:24

home. And then they end up

39:26

taking him out and shooting him. We

39:28

find as a the the Dummy godson.

39:32

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39:34

the scene and assholes hours ago that

39:36

will which drug movie are we really

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gonna be right here and then when

39:40

a drag this man out because he's

39:43

a bad been silicates i thought okay

39:45

well obviously men det know he wants

39:47

his se still and character he's to

39:49

eat or tried to resuscitate the dummy

39:51

that has been saw that the gag

39:53

up of those pretty still down below

39:55

their that they end up getting all

39:57

the sugar and they're working with. The

40:00

whole team of like all of

40:02

the different geniuses that they are

40:04

brought aids on. We see that.com

40:06

Carvel has invented something called a

40:08

be Tell logs poor as a

40:11

tivo as is your have a

40:13

cookie Plus. Know. I

40:15

barely know what it is. What is it

40:17

Al? you know, what a cookie? Pluses: I

40:20

thought they were more well known for like such

40:22

a the well that the same. Yeah, same

40:24

idea of a that. This is like

40:27

the you know signature ice cream cake

40:29

from Carvel. The cookie puss. Were.

40:32

Out a d Two kids were Dq family.

40:34

Isn't yeah? I

40:36

also missed most of the sea, and only because

40:38

my mom decided to launch to do a conversation

40:41

about how well Jerry Seinfeld his aides said we

40:43

were. Oh, really nitpicking that. Are angry good for

40:45

Seventy Four Sigma He learned a lot of make

40:47

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40:49

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40:51

in and like a harsh lines Jersey

40:53

Girl realness way which I appreciated. Of

40:55

years. But. We were just

40:58

remarking on how he looks good while

41:00

still having allowed himself to age like

41:02

he's not in a Botox. Yeah.

41:04

I haven't. Mean. It's

41:07

tasteful. Civilian job or had

41:09

view of Carvel in Texas. I

41:12

don't know what yardage know that was about as a

41:14

there's a couple name drops to happened in as where

41:16

I was like i don't know disease or didn't know

41:18

Carville I didn't know rousted and even though now them

41:20

looking it up I know they make like. Serial.

41:23

As will be. Yeah when Carville sort of other

41:26

out on with and I get the joke. Well

41:28

what was my more and I never knew Carville

41:30

was northeast only I thought it was like such

41:32

a national chase it might be as as I

41:34

have never seen it. I think it's pretty regional.

41:37

Yeah. Okay, so what's the record? Know Chappelle

41:39

in Texas? Probably Dairy Queen

41:41

if if alleys couldn't compare again. because

41:44

I'm like. Dairy. Queen and sexes

41:46

are pretty bit they're pretty casino sabbatical they

41:48

that's a big gonna get down together so

41:50

i would be soccer best like the equivalent.

41:52

still have Brahms here which gonna do like

41:54

it's in the same same gonna Families were

41:56

no never heard of Carville before in my

41:58

life in so now. Being and apparently

42:01

this. Cookie. Places ice cream deck.

42:03

the ice cream cake will face. And

42:06

was I had known as the Nose. Next.

42:09

Time you get the pleasure. I'm sick of

42:11

John his company. Ask him to sing use

42:13

the Dq theme song that aired in Texas.

42:15

Oh that would I like about. His

42:19

tell you it's a D. I

42:21

could have sworn that this was going back

42:23

towards Cookie Plus. We are. You

42:26

know, Zelda be will

42:28

birds but he probably would be the expert asthma. Because.

42:34

If we devise, yup, sit by

42:36

and. Remove One

42:39

of the weirdest turns the

42:41

movie takes his are we

42:43

bringing in the it is.

42:45

I German inventor of the

42:47

sea monkeys are there and

42:49

that's it. We end up

42:51

and combining the sea monkeys.

42:53

Oh come on a combined

42:55

with the Chef Boyardee Ravioli

42:58

and there is a a

43:00

moment where there is a

43:02

created seem monkey Cg I.

43:04

Living. Ravioli,

43:08

The having. A

43:11

bit of a German guy keeps getting question where

43:13

he was in the nineteen for hims as like

43:15

don't very strange like i don't think my t

43:17

of yoga bedroom yeah no he says that that's

43:20

for me to know and for you not to

43:22

find out. I'm.

43:24

I was our our our beers myself by

43:27

say this but not only am I didn't

43:29

up on our carville was based. In

43:31

know sea monkeys were made up. I thought these were real

43:34

animals are thought to be go get these from somewhere. You

43:36

have to create them in a lab or something out. what

43:38

is a sea monkey? I'm never had one of these. Yeah,

43:42

I don't really know what is as indices of

43:45

the you'd order the back of a comic book

43:47

in the sixties and I still am confused as

43:49

to whether or not I you are, if it's

43:51

a scam, or if it's like some kind of

43:54

like i'm. You. Know egg that

43:56

ends up patching. i

43:58

only sea monkeys from

44:01

Rugrats. So my baby is

44:03

not in reality. We

44:06

have to release them into the ocean. That's all I

44:08

can remember when I heard about the monkey. I was

44:10

like, this isn't fake. You have to go throw them

44:13

into the ocean so that they can be with the

44:15

sea monkey family that they're that they're missing. I've seen

44:17

this on television. Y'all not making this up. Who's the

44:19

actor who played the sea monkey guy? Is

44:21

it Thomas Lennon? He's

44:24

a the guy is not my kind of guy.

44:26

Yeah, he is. He's

44:28

always he's always there. He's in the League the

44:31

soup group guy. I mean, I think he's best

44:33

known for the state Reno 911

44:35

that he is

44:38

like, you know in Amanda

44:40

loves him. You're going to say that

44:42

Dr. Amanda is going to come for me when you said

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the state. I was like, oh, no. Yeah,

44:46

so he also I believe starred with

44:48

Matthew Perry in the CBS version of

44:50

the odd couple Thomas Lennon

44:53

the beloved CBS the beloved

44:55

reboot of the odd couple.

44:57

Yeah. Yeah, none of this has changed my

44:59

mind, but his odd couple partner

45:01

in this movie is chef Boyardee and

45:03

him and chef Boyardee have an interesting

45:05

relationship throughout the film when the living

45:08

ravioli escapes that he

45:11

looks back at him. He's like, what have

45:13

you done? What are you done? And chef

45:15

Boyardee says, uh-oh spaghetti. His

45:18

Italian was offensive and I'm not even

45:20

Italian. I was like what is happening?

45:22

Yeah, Bobby Moynihan, I think is the

45:24

only choice to play chef Boyardee. Yeah,

45:26

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Number seven. What's

47:05

that pretty good? There's a big subplot in the film

47:07

about the milkmen. The

47:10

milkmen are mad that the

47:12

Pop-Tart is going to be right here. It's going to be a

47:14

lot of fun. It's going to be

47:16

a lot of fun. There's

47:19

a big subplot in the film

47:21

about the milkmen. The milkmen are

47:23

mad that the Pop-Tart is going

47:25

to be replacing. Did you say

47:27

milk? Milkman. Milkman. That's how he says

47:29

it. Say it again? Milkman? Is

47:32

that not right? Ali, don't bully, right? What did I

47:34

say? What did I say? I would say it. I'm

47:37

with Ali again. I feel like... I might

47:39

say milk. You say milk with

47:41

like a little bit of an E. But you've always done

47:43

it. It's adorable. Ali, what is

47:45

the... I've never noticed that. What

47:49

is the more... Some people say it. Ali

47:51

wants you to say it with five I's. Milk.

47:54

Milk? You have milk?

47:56

Good. Shabbal, you take this. It

48:00

did it sounded like milk. Yeah Yeah,

48:03

okay. Mm-hmm got milk with an elk milk

48:05

milk and and I wasn't gonna react because

48:07

I think okay Yeah, I do say Nils

48:12

So now Mel know you say

48:14

Mel. Yeah, no manner. Mel was

48:16

the woman that Tony Soprano used to know

48:19

Mm-hmm. She was a mouth as

48:21

well. Wasn't she? Mm-hmm. No fun

48:23

to show. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well

48:25

Christian Slater is the

48:27

head of the syndicate that sells some sort

48:30

of lactose product

48:32

and They're not happy

48:36

He wishes he was the head of this listen, he's the

48:38

face of it. This is Harry friendlies Operation

48:40

Peter Dinklage shows up and I just got him

48:42

because I love him but he's

48:45

yeah the the the milk people are

48:47

very upset because With

48:49

cereal making this move away from

48:51

cereal that that pretty much makes

48:54

milk obsolete and the breakfast conversation

48:56

They'd like talk about all the good things about

48:58

milk But this really did take me back to

49:00

the 90s where there were milk commercials There was

49:03

milk ads all the top superstars and every sport

49:05

had a milk mustache on you couldn't go

49:07

anywhere without seeing milk Advertisers something that

49:09

was good for you that fought osteo

49:11

Osteoporosis that was good for strong bones

49:13

made strong teeth. I have

49:15

not seen a milk advertisement in at least a

49:17

decade I'm sorry. Yeah, what's going on is milk

49:19

on the decline? Are they fighting off the almond

49:22

milk and the oat milk and the soy? Yeah,

49:24

I think people are anti cow milk now. I'm

49:26

pretty sure that's a thing. Mmm. Yeah, so Well

49:30

back when milk was king, okay That

49:34

they had all they really had a

49:36

monopoly and they didn't want anybody in

49:38

pop tarts to screw things up and

49:40

so we are seeing all throughout the

49:43

movie how their men is saying they're

49:45

following people around and ultimately

49:47

Christian Slater who is like

49:50

the Milk man that we

49:52

see the most ends up kidnapping Jerry

49:55

Seinfeld character Cabana and they bring him

49:57

in and he is Interrogated.

50:00

By that, the head of the

50:02

Milk Syndicate as Chappelle mentions Peter

50:04

Dinklage is here. Yet.

50:06

Akiba, you have big serial guy yacht lot.

50:08

What is this connection between cereal and milk

50:11

where they a cahoots at one point anyway

50:13

was is like what was it Always like

50:15

that because I don't drink milk and never

50:17

have. It's not a thing that I I

50:19

have eaten serial. I do not drink milk

50:21

or not you serial with my milk. Is

50:23

this not of the okay so what do

50:25

you have? A writer of religious right as

50:27

dry cereal to dry ass ain't so that

50:30

he does. It does seem like it doesn't

50:32

make any sense for me to put milk

50:34

and cereal because I've never had a yellow

50:36

when. I see why. The people who am I

50:38

why milk? oh no that because people always ask me

50:40

what would you put like water and your zero that

50:42

know I eat cereal the way it came out the

50:44

back. Why you put. Your. Theory on a

50:46

liquid women who told you to do that. I trade

50:48

requests. I don't know when it was invented. Maybe a

50:51

listener can help us out. Our. And I

50:53

do know how people would drink milk with water

50:55

which is strange years. I milkweed a Water or

50:57

Syria with Warner excuse me sir. What? What? What

50:59

did I had to eat? cereal? I.

51:01

Don't think I've had a cup of milk since I

51:03

was like four years old. I would never just have

51:06

play milk for the only time I consume milk is

51:08

with cereal. Or China. I.

51:10

Don't know when it was invented, it's

51:12

greatness and but it's just you know,

51:14

the peanut butter jelly. They were made

51:16

separately and someone decided to switch from

51:18

the get. There was A. I actually

51:20

got into a bit of a debate

51:22

this morning at my house because I

51:24

that my wife does not she likes

51:26

of l does not put milk in

51:28

the serial. see has insect say that

51:30

my younger son also to believe in

51:33

this philosophy whereas my older sign or

51:35

that he does drink the series of

51:37

milk in the serial. I gave my

51:39

younger son a bowl. Of Resist

51:41

Paths minis this morning

51:43

which he said no.

51:46

I. Don't like it. To. Crunchy and I

51:48

said do you know what the solution is for.

51:52

The know it'll fix that problem. Yeah.

51:55

but any other have like would peanut butter chocolate

51:58

milk or something like that inside of the This

52:00

is all miss. I don't know. As I can get

52:02

it just it's foreign to me. I've never understood it.

52:04

I don't know why it happened, but I'm happy that

52:06

we're moving away from milk as a society because then

52:08

I don't have to ask answer that stupid question. I

52:10

don't eat my cereal with anything. Well,

52:13

I don't think we're moving away from milk.

52:15

It's different, different milks. Yeah. Cow milk for

52:17

sure. I am, I

52:19

am stumping for big dairy because I am

52:21

bringing back. I went on an oat milk

52:24

kick and then I, you know, TikTok scared

52:26

me to be like oat milk's all gums

52:28

and calories. Like dairy milk is better for

52:30

you. So I'm bringing dairy

52:33

milk back. I think it's

52:35

insane that you

52:37

don't have cereal with milk. I can't imagine what

52:39

eating that would be like. My dad occasionally would

52:42

have it with orange juice if we were out

52:44

of milk, which

52:46

was pretty disgusting. But Kivi, I did

52:48

a little research and apparently milk

52:50

started with cereal in around the 1860s because

52:54

there was a cereal called granula,

52:56

which was quote, like trying

52:58

to swallow construction rubble. They needed the

53:00

milk, much like Rob's son, to

53:02

soften it. Okay.

53:04

Yeah. So it's outdated. So

53:07

basically we all agree that we can just abolish

53:09

milk altogether. Okay. No, no. Milk is back.

53:11

I just said milk is back. Milk is back.

53:13

I have to redirect. So all right.

53:16

Peter Dinklage says, listen, you better knock

53:18

it off. You're messing with us. You're

53:20

going down the aisle. They make Jerry's

53:23

character go down the stinky

53:25

cow fart aisle in the

53:28

fawn the farm. Basically.

53:31

Yeah. That's his punishment. Like, oh yeah, since

53:33

you messed with milk and now this is

53:35

what you get. And so, uh, yeah,

53:38

he thinks it's a Jerry goes home

53:41

and is very disturbed by this. And

53:43

she fell. Who do we see? Another

53:46

crossover? Yes. What

53:49

you did? Well, I love Sheila's ass.

53:51

I love her so much in every role. And so

53:53

I was so happy. I was hoping that you didn't

53:56

catch it so I can bring it up. No, no,

53:58

I always, you know, my kids are also. Watching the

54:00

diary of the wimpy kid movie they're obsessed

54:02

with the books and then they watch all

54:05

the movies and she's also the mom In

54:07

those movies, so we always get a steady

54:09

diet of Rachel Harris over here Yeah,

54:12

but you gotta get your kids to call the Sheila's ass because

54:14

that's a nice feel see what we could do wait This

54:17

was sorry. This was a this is the person

54:19

who played Jerry's wife. Yes. Yeah So

54:22

this was a real actress who played

54:24

Jerry's wife. It was completely unused the

54:26

entire movie. Yes Yes. Oh,

54:29

I'm shocked. I thought they just like had

54:31

someone stand there as a pay I love

54:34

to be detailed that they completely ignore her

54:36

as inconsequential, but I'm shocked. It was like

54:38

a popular actress We

54:40

don't know nothing about his home life other than

54:42

that. He wants sod. He wants a nice one

54:45

Yeah, he has a kid at one point we find out

54:48

Yeah, everybody in this movie has

54:50

a lengthy Wikipedia page like everybody

54:52

is not there's not one extra

54:54

Everybody could like star in

54:56

their own movie tomorrow So we

54:58

mentioned that they took the sugar

55:00

supply cuts off post and that

55:02

forces the post group

55:06

to go to Russia

55:08

to go meet with Chris Jeff played

55:10

by Breaking Bad's own

55:13

Dean Norris and That's

55:16

they basically are going to be then

55:19

getting the sugar by way of Cuba

55:21

and now this is like a whole

55:24

International affair and so when

55:26

it looks like what

55:29

is what is the helicopter? Air

55:31

Force one. What is this? What do they call that?

55:36

Air Force two, is that the is

55:38

that the helicopter is the VP? I

55:40

think That's a

55:42

good question. Okay. Anyway lawn

55:46

Lands and they need to go

55:48

to the White House And

55:51

then we see that we have a meeting

55:53

coming up here with JFK

55:55

jr. Played by Bill Burr

55:58

marine one One is that

56:01

okay JFK

56:03

and jr. Oh,

56:05

yeah, that's a good jr.

56:08

This is JFK regular JFK. Yeah

56:11

regular JFK and This

56:13

is another one where I'm like does the family know

56:15

you're doing this because this JFK is not the JFK

56:18

that I've read about In the books when did JFK

56:20

have a threesome with the double mint twins and get

56:22

them both pregnant? Is

56:25

that okay, is that okay to just throw out into a

56:27

Netflix film and nobody's gonna say anything Jerry Does

56:30

it make any better than the post and Kellogg's people

56:32

maybe the candidate? I think so Is

56:35

that a bad look though? Family

56:38

has more more to press things

56:40

going on. Yeah He's

56:43

like Jackie's probably out buying hats bring in the

56:45

double mint twins and hope hopefully they're wearing those

56:48

outfits and I'm like Yeah,

56:50

I did good here. I think

56:53

so too. Yeah, my favorite part of

56:55

the movie was in the credits They did a

56:57

lot of bloopers and Bill Burr was like, sorry.

56:59

Sorry. It's a comedy. I forgot I was trying

57:01

to win an award here like I guess he

57:03

got the note that he was taking it too

57:05

seriously Yeah, I thought

57:07

he was great. I didn't recognize him at first when I

57:09

thought that it was Bill Burr. I was like shocked Oh,

57:12

yeah, Eric could make a lot of difference Akiva.

57:14

Could you one time wear a wig on? Yeah,

57:19

yeah Yeah,

57:22

Chappelle pick the wig I have the perfect

57:24

wig in mind Beautiful. Yeah

57:27

So yeah, Bill Burr says that okay,

57:29

so that Bobby

57:31

Kennedy senior is going to

57:33

put the screws to the

57:36

milk Syndicate and

57:38

so they get them off the back But

57:40

there is they're like sort of like a

57:42

Cuban Missile Crisis that's going on. It doesn't

57:44

get too serious throughout

57:47

the movie, but We're

57:49

then We have the

57:52

ability to now really like hone

57:54

in We've got the

57:56

pop-tart and a very serious scene

57:58

in the movie happens as they

58:00

are testing the first Pop-Tart

58:03

as Kenneth from 30 Rock

58:07

playing Steve Schwinn that

58:10

he goes in in like a full

58:12

like spacesuit to test the first Pop-Tart

58:14

and it looks like it goes

58:17

very well until ultimately he explodes and

58:19

dies. Yeah,

58:22

and this Schwinn

58:25

estate has nothing to say about it. And then you know

58:27

what I'm saying, at this point I'm suing Jerry Seinfeld because

58:29

I was like, you can just blow this man up on

58:31

the set of a Pop-Tart testing facility

58:33

and then have a full blown funeral

58:35

with this man. Jack McBryer. Oh

58:39

yeah, but to be fair Rob,

58:41

isn't he always going to be the 30

58:43

Rock guy? I mean, yeah, he's in

58:45

every role. I'm

58:48

sure he has a lot of range as an actor but

58:50

I think that the casting directors are like, okay, can you

58:53

do Kenneth from 30 Rock? Yeah,

58:55

when has he ever not been Kenneth? I just want to know the

58:57

role where I should go look at him and see like, oh, and

58:59

this is for listeners. If you

59:01

know this man from outside of Kenneth roles, please let

59:03

me know because I'm telling you, he shows up with

59:05

that big toothy grin and I'm like, oh, we're back.

59:07

We're doing this. I did not expect for him to

59:09

blow up and I did not expect for them to

59:11

bury him in the burial. This was one of my

59:13

favorite parts of the movie. So

59:16

that the, you know, like I really

59:18

thought that after we got the scene

59:20

where the ventriloquist dummy got shot and

59:22

it was like you thought that you

59:24

thought the ventriloquist got shot. It was the

59:26

ventriloquist dummy. I'm like, okay. Then after Jack

59:28

McBryer blows up another guy who's like walking

59:30

out and I thought they're going to say,

59:32

oh, he's okay. And

59:35

then they mistake it like, oh no, like, you

59:37

know, he definitely was blown up. Like he is

59:39

a big mess. Don't go over there. And

59:42

we got to his funeral and

59:44

we see the funeral of the

59:46

Steve Schwinn and I thought

59:50

that this was so funny that he gets

59:52

like a full serial

59:54

tribute at the

59:57

funeral between the serial

59:59

characters. speaking between

1:00:01

then lowering

1:00:03

the casket down and then

1:00:06

dumping cereal into the grave,

1:00:09

pouring milk. Somebody was cutting

1:00:12

bananas and putting it into

1:00:15

the grave. As for, it's like

1:00:17

the box of cornflakes says funeral size.

1:00:23

Yeah, and I thought it was played

1:00:25

so funny of like that it was

1:00:27

so absurd and that I thought they

1:00:29

did such a good job of Mrs.

1:00:32

Schwinn is not in

1:00:34

on the cereal traditions. It

1:00:37

is just as absurd to her as it

1:00:39

is to the rest of us. She's

1:00:42

like, what is this? What are you doing? And

1:00:45

like, there's no sympathy for

1:00:47

her. Like how did you

1:00:50

blow him up? I thought you were a cereal

1:00:52

company. Exactly. Like why did you even blow

1:00:54

up there? Yeah, it was

1:00:56

pretty outrageous. Shout out to Alex Edelman uncredited

1:00:58

on Wikipedia with a one line as I

1:01:01

don't even know what mascot that was like

1:01:03

they had to can Sam they

1:01:05

had some cakra pop but Alex

1:01:07

Edelman was in a blue suit

1:01:09

with a big red apple head

1:01:11

and Cheerios for eyes. But

1:01:13

he wasn't like the honeybee like I didn't understand

1:01:15

what that was for. But Cheerios

1:01:17

or Jack. They did

1:01:20

a there was a lot

1:01:22

of mascot solidarity that a lot of non

1:01:24

cereal mascots came to protest. But

1:01:27

this was no this had to be cereal. He had

1:01:29

cereal eyes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I

1:01:31

don't know. All right. So

1:01:34

after the funeral, we're getting close to

1:01:37

getting the pop tart like it's created where

1:01:39

you need to bring in some people, some

1:01:42

executives who can help us with the marketing

1:01:44

and Chappelle and then I don't even know

1:01:46

how they were able to do this. We

1:01:48

just bring in Don Draper and Roger Sterling

1:01:50

from Mad Men. This is the

1:01:52

best day of my life. I didn't even realize

1:01:55

how much I missed Roger Sterling until I saw this.

1:01:57

I was like, well, well, let it happen. And Don

1:01:59

Draper does exactly. what he does best. He

1:02:01

does it complete. It just it felt like a

1:02:03

scene right out of Mad Men where he is

1:02:05

selling something to us and he is using so

1:02:07

much gravitas. It's so much like just extra just

1:02:09

it just it's so heavy and then you look

1:02:11

up and it's a pop tart and they're like

1:02:13

hey what if we didn't make this a risque

1:02:15

pop tart? He's like look do you want

1:02:17

to be Quaker or do you want to be Kellogg's? Like which

1:02:19

one is it? Because if you want to be Quaker go ahead.

1:02:22

You lack Lester but I'm giving you I'm giving you what you

1:02:24

need here. I'm like listen to Don Draper. You know this guy

1:02:27

Now don't do any Mad Men spoilers because Akiva

1:02:29

and Mera are still on season two. That's

1:02:32

right. Shouldn't they? Well

1:02:34

I don't think at this point I think it

1:02:36

might just never continue but we never we never

1:02:38

got through season two. It's true. There's a Mad

1:02:40

Men spoiler in this isn't there?

1:02:42

Like I didn't I haven't seen Mad Men but

1:02:44

I I understand what happens at the end. I

1:02:46

think they say it in this don't they? Yeah

1:02:49

I believe so. What I mean that

1:02:52

the you can't spoil the Mad Men

1:02:54

ending. Well we're not allowed to say.

1:02:56

Yeah that's fine. Well what do they

1:02:58

say? Kieb

1:03:00

doesn't, Kieb, Chappelle doesn't he say something

1:03:02

like I'll be retired on a bluff

1:03:05

overlooking like whatever before you ask yourself

1:03:07

here? Yeah basically yeah basically he's like this

1:03:09

is the last episode of Mad Men and you're

1:03:11

like oh is that what we're doing here really?

1:03:13

Yeah that's it. And he

1:03:15

was Don Draper was so aggressive he was

1:03:18

so mean and that

1:03:20

Jerry's like yeah why are you so

1:03:22

like why are you so mean about

1:03:24

this? Like why aren't you guys just

1:03:26

advertising people? Like why do

1:03:28

you like this? They're Mad Men. They're

1:03:31

literally Mad Men. Yeah look

1:03:34

he was very taking it very seriously you know I

1:03:36

think he said you'll never swim down the English channel

1:03:38

or something like that. Like Don Draper was perfect for

1:03:40

this role and the fact that Don Draper is also

1:03:42

John Ham is somebody who should always play Don Draper

1:03:45

you know like I'm sure again he's good in other

1:03:47

stuff but like Kenneth from 30 Rides this is all

1:03:49

I want to see I want to see this guy.

1:03:52

Yeah so with a lot of possible lawsuits

1:03:54

this is the one that surprised me the most

1:03:56

because like John Ham and John

1:03:59

Flattery don't own that out. IP of the character don't

1:04:01

be a fan of Don Draper. No, I'm

1:04:03

not actually worried about a lot of

1:04:05

people. But do they say that I

1:04:08

know they say Roger, do they call him

1:04:10

Don Draper? Because I think they're credited as

1:04:12

like, Adman one and Adman two. Yeah,

1:04:14

Madman one. No, they definitely don't call

1:04:17

him Don Draper. Yeah. But I mean,

1:04:19

again, if you know, you know, it's

1:04:21

out at you. Like if John

1:04:24

Ham hosts SNL, and they do

1:04:26

this sketch of like, okay, Don

1:04:29

Draper is pitching the Pop-Tart

1:04:31

executives, like, is that parody?

1:04:33

Like, are they sort of

1:04:35

protected under that? I'm

1:04:38

not like worried about it, really, from the

1:04:40

legal sense. But like, you'd think Don, Don

1:04:42

Cooper, John Ham and John Slater, wouldn't

1:04:45

want to like, piss off the creators of

1:04:47

Madman if that was like a risk. More

1:04:50

than like, like the lawsuit or whatever, right?

1:04:53

Like, isn't, I think they

1:04:55

I really don't know the answer. I mean, I

1:04:57

think they probably intentionally didn't actually use any names

1:04:59

and therefore, what he can never

1:05:01

play an ad executive again, didn't say anything

1:05:04

that didn't infringe on any trademarks, blah, blah,

1:05:06

blah. Like, I know, like the Bond actors,

1:05:08

I know used to be like Pierce Brosnan,

1:05:10

like had it in his contract, he couldn't

1:05:12

like wear a tuxedo in any other movie

1:05:14

that he was doing. So yeah, I don't

1:05:17

know. But

1:05:19

I wouldn't be like, part of me was

1:05:21

like, who worked on this movie? Could anyone

1:05:23

have been involved? Like besides the fact that

1:05:25

Jerry could ask them to do it? Like

1:05:27

maybe it was blessed by whoever had

1:05:29

it. Yeah. Anyway,

1:05:32

so yeah, very funny moment

1:05:35

with the the Madman.

1:05:37

So all

1:05:39

right, we end up like,

1:05:41

okay, these guys stink, we go back

1:05:44

to the kids to come up with

1:05:46

the idea for the name, the kids

1:05:48

from the dumpster and the kids end

1:05:50

up like, there's the kids

1:05:52

get heard that Jim Gaffigan has like

1:05:55

a butt massage hamster

1:05:57

wheel type apparatus. If you

1:06:00

You didn't see the movie, I can't describe it. You

1:06:03

did a good job. It's like a tight abacus.

1:06:06

Yeah. And

1:06:08

one of the kids gets injured

1:06:10

from this device and then in

1:06:12

his sort of unconscious

1:06:15

state sees all of

1:06:18

the words on the chalkboard

1:06:20

and rearranges them and says that it should

1:06:22

be called the, uh, trap

1:06:25

pop. Yeah, which is

1:06:27

Pop-Tart backwards. That

1:06:30

pop and they say, okay, that's good. They

1:06:32

never really addressed that it's Pop-Tart backwards

1:06:34

or anything. But it's an acronym for,

1:06:36

um, you

1:06:38

know, like, uh, like NASA, like bra.

1:06:42

Well, it's like, uh, it's a toaster ready

1:06:44

anytime treat, uh, put on

1:06:46

plate. So that is trap pop. And

1:06:49

then by the time it hits, you know,

1:06:51

the, the general public, you know, it is,

1:06:53

uh, misconstrued as Pop-Tart. But Pop-Tart makes way

1:06:55

more sense. Yes, definitely.

1:06:57

Um, I don't think this was how

1:07:00

they really named it. No, again,

1:07:03

very early in the movie, I realized that this

1:07:05

was not the truth. When I went into this,

1:07:07

I really thought, I thought this was like, like

1:07:10

I said, saving Mr. Banks, we're going to get

1:07:12

like the, the, the, the story of this thing

1:07:14

that happened and you know, maybe it's a movie

1:07:16

magic when this is just movie magic and a

1:07:19

lot of, you know, dodging

1:07:21

in and out of like legal jargon, because

1:07:23

I'm sure like, I'm just like, you talk

1:07:25

about trademarks, but there are so many just

1:07:28

getting just grown out here willy nilly that

1:07:30

I'm shocked that there's no, there's, they could

1:07:32

do this. Okay. Well, I agree

1:07:34

with Akiva though. I'd watch, I would watch like

1:07:36

a limited series. I was thinking that like almost,

1:07:38

what's that like air, was it called max or

1:07:40

air air that like, I almost

1:07:42

thought it was going to be more like that, but

1:07:44

I would watch like a 45 minute,

1:07:48

you know, actual like unwrapped kind

1:07:50

of, of like what this, uh, source

1:07:52

material actually was. Cause it is interesting,

1:07:54

but they do do a nod later

1:07:56

in the movie to how Pop-Tart actually

1:07:58

was named. I guess it was like

1:08:01

a reference to pop art. It was like a riff

1:08:03

on that. So the whole Inexplicable

1:08:05

Andy Warhol part of it was

1:08:07

like a callback to the actual

1:08:09

story But he did not actually

1:08:11

kill anyone related to it that I'm aware of. Yes.

1:08:13

Yeah or in this movie. He didn't kill anybody Yeah,

1:08:17

well it was stopped. But all right, so

1:08:19

then all they have to do is just get the the

1:08:24

the Trat pop.

1:08:26

Um Well, what is

1:08:28

what is the right word? What is the right

1:08:30

the right verb that certified and

1:08:33

they gotta get it approved by FDA

1:08:35

Yes They need to get it certified

1:08:37

And so the head of the FDI

1:08:40

is played by one of the key

1:08:42

this favorites Fred Armisen plays Mike hunts

1:08:46

Yeah You

1:08:48

can everything He's

1:08:52

on the Yeah,

1:08:55

I didn't know Ali

1:08:57

also anti Fred Armisen big

1:08:59

and I came to it in my you know I

1:09:01

arrived on the scene with my own opinion and

1:09:04

we're just happy to be alive. Yeah, he's

1:09:06

on Akiva's Ikkles It's

1:09:08

true rightfully. So is he not on your

1:09:11

guys's Ikkles? Like

1:09:13

him, but yeah, I'll icky Yeah,

1:09:16

that mm-hmm Yeah,

1:09:19

I mean, I think he's always funny

1:09:21

and whatever he's in I mean III

1:09:23

I'm not judging The

1:09:26

I don't know about his life outside of

1:09:29

comedy Oh, I'm

1:09:31

sorry. I'm not saying anything about that. I've

1:09:33

solely based on his material. I find to

1:09:35

Mickey No, I was only talking about his life.

1:09:37

All right Yeah,

1:09:40

Mike I need to find out more about

1:09:42

this marriage to Elizabeth I need to know

1:09:44

him happen John ham have a mutual he's

1:09:46

married to Elizabeth Moss. They were married. There's

1:09:48

not anymore Wow

1:09:51

lash theory and full effect Pretty

1:09:55

good. Okay. So all right.

1:09:57

All Mike punts has to do is sort the

1:10:01

trademark but not if and

1:10:03

really the serial characters have

1:10:06

been really put up to this by The

1:10:09

whole milk syndicates really getting them

1:10:11

riled up and we see all

1:10:14

of serial characters ready

1:10:16

to storm the Kellogg's

1:10:19

building Yeah

1:10:24

This is this is funny. Okay, I'll give them credit for

1:10:26

this because I'll try to figure out how I felt about

1:10:28

this It's absurd But the same

1:10:31

time it this is the perfect time to drop

1:10:33

something like this because the moment you see them

1:10:35

outside With uh, you know on

1:10:37

the steps of the Kellogg's building, you know what's

1:10:39

about to happen You know, there's an insurrection going

1:10:42

on and people are gonna talk about this for

1:10:44

years. None of these people go to jail though

1:10:46

They're all well the costuming that they do is

1:10:48

to turn the Tony the tiger costume Into

1:10:51

I don't know. Is there a name

1:10:53

for that guy? Oh I

1:10:56

don't think they're appropriate. I feel like

1:10:59

he has like a like a nickname

1:11:02

The guy that had like the horns and

1:11:04

everything Yeah, I know

1:11:06

you're talking about I don't I don't know if he yeah,

1:11:08

I don't know but they really they nailed the costume for

1:11:11

that guy Mm-hmm.

1:11:13

Yeah, Tony it was it was so inspired

1:11:15

like it just it just like you

1:11:17

see Tony the tiger You don't think of any

1:11:19

way that those two things are related until you

1:11:22

see it And it's just maybe it's the horns

1:11:24

that did it because Tony doesn't have horns and

1:11:26

tigers don't have horns Yeah, and

1:11:28

so the fact that they stuck horns on this but

1:11:30

it still worked like you still understood that it was

1:11:32

Tony tiger It makes it. Mm-hmm. Okay, and

1:11:34

there's just it's a very funny

1:11:37

bit that they do where they're

1:11:39

raiding the Kellogg's building and then

1:11:42

Fred Armisen is like really stalling

1:11:44

and then Jerry just finally

1:11:46

like puts his hand down to stamp the thing.

1:11:48

I thought I guess I guess it's not that

1:11:50

hard actually and the

1:11:54

Trat pop is certified I

1:12:00

found it funny. I found it like visually

1:12:02

interesting how they did it was well done

1:12:06

But my reaction immediate reaction was like

1:12:08

if you grant Okay because again with

1:12:10

his like dissatisfaction with the Oompa Loompa

1:12:12

movie and now like you know,

1:12:14

I Just didn't see

1:12:16

this direction for you

1:12:18

grant to one day be shirtless in a half

1:12:20

of the tiger outfit covered in paint like Screaming

1:12:23

like they're trying to certify a product that

1:12:25

will replace us It

1:12:27

is it is it is certainly funny I

1:12:29

do wish we were like further away from

1:12:32

the immediate danger of it like

1:12:34

it's hard to laugh while currently

1:12:37

in direct danger from this thing,

1:12:40

but It was very

1:12:42

you know Well done for what it was and I

1:12:44

this is another one where I was like Seemingly

1:12:47

spared no expense like they seem to have

1:12:49

a lot of people the placement on the

1:12:51

walls going up. So It

1:12:53

was well done. I do think a lot of people are gonna have a

1:12:55

problem with it for sure I'm sure a lot of these I don't think

1:12:58

they're gonna watch this movie the The

1:13:01

idea they wrote this so soon after and this was

1:13:03

supposed to be a 2022 movie if you

1:13:05

think about it It's not like cuz now enough time has

1:13:07

passed But then it was like it would have been

1:13:10

a pretty edgy honestly like a year and a half two years ago Here's

1:13:12

a question. What do you think Jerry wanted to

1:13:15

put in this movie that he felt? Silenced

1:13:17

like in his interview That

1:13:21

he couldn't put anything in the movie that he wanted

1:13:24

to I think he was talking more about just like

1:13:26

TV because I feel like that they did basically

1:13:28

wherever they wanted in this movie Well,

1:13:31

yeah Though

1:13:33

like if they had this like if he

1:13:35

felt freer and in 2020 for

1:13:38

what he would have included He wanted

1:13:40

to pick on the Quakers more, but then someone's like

1:13:42

no, it's really yeah Yeah The

1:13:46

Quaker's got a bad rap in this one.

1:13:48

Yeah, that was might be the same old

1:13:50

Yeah, but you know, it's a classic Cuba.

1:13:52

Did you recognize our old friend Andy Daly

1:13:54

from review as the Quaker oats man? I

1:13:57

did. Yeah, the great Andy don't

1:13:59

everybody is like either

1:14:01

been on 10,000 podcasts or like is the star

1:14:03

of their own movies. It is pretty wild. So

1:14:07

all right they end up certifying

1:14:09

and then we have like a race

1:14:11

to the shelves for the

1:14:15

actually I think then we get Walter

1:14:17

Cronkite reporting the news about the insurrection

1:14:20

at the Kellogg's facility and he's playing

1:14:22

with all these toys throughout the whole

1:14:24

movie and he ends up reading

1:14:26

the notes off the silly putty as Chappelle

1:14:29

mentioned earlier and reads it backwards and says

1:14:31

it's a pop tart they change the branding

1:14:33

they send it to the stores and it's

1:14:35

a race to the

1:14:37

who's gonna win between the post

1:14:39

what was it called the fruit

1:14:42

square country square

1:14:45

yeah was

1:14:47

that the real name of it with is

1:14:50

that real yeah mm-hmm nobody

1:14:52

like being called a square

1:14:55

terrible name terrible name yeah

1:14:57

I still don't know what that is try

1:15:02

to read a joke in the interaction in the

1:15:05

interaction scene it's

1:15:07

all the same flavor we just changed the color which now

1:15:09

like makes me want to go do a full taste of

1:15:11

Chappelle do

1:15:13

you think you could taste the difference

1:15:15

between the different pop tart flavors yeah

1:15:18

100% that's not even close like I'm telling

1:15:21

you I could just talking about them right

1:15:23

now I can taste each of them I'm

1:15:25

sorry because I had them ranked back in

1:15:27

my childhood days because it would be times

1:15:30

where he's like let's do some variety but

1:15:32

there's also times we just you

1:15:34

feeling down and you just need like a solid

1:15:37

concrete just like I know this is gonna

1:15:39

give me some endorphins and I mean just

1:15:41

that frosted cherry that is like the like

1:15:43

who just peak happiness in just

1:15:45

a pop tart even my favorite

1:15:47

movies had like pop tarts and I'm like can't

1:15:49

hardly wait was basically about a pop tart but

1:15:51

nobody remembers that except me Wow I'm

1:15:54

putting me on the test like is that 32

1:15:56

fans idea sign me up which

1:15:58

part of it Pop-tart tournament? The

1:16:01

Pop-tart ranking, the Pop-tart tournament, whatever.

1:16:03

Name your Pop-tart. I got it.

1:16:06

Poopie out. Okay. So

1:16:08

ultimately, they get the sales figures

1:16:10

back. Pop-tarts are off the

1:16:12

charts. Nobody wants the country squares.

1:16:14

And so we see that Pop-tart

1:16:18

executives are famous. And

1:16:20

we see Jerry go

1:16:22

onto the Tonight Show

1:16:24

and then go with Johnny Carson and

1:16:26

Ed McMahon. And they're joking about the

1:16:29

Pop-tarts when Andy

1:16:31

Warhol is allegedly pissed

1:16:33

about Pop-art. Shoots

1:16:36

him. Played by Dan Levy. Yeah.

1:16:40

I did not recognize Dan Levy in this role at

1:16:42

all. Like it happened. And then when

1:16:44

we were talking about the cast earlier, I was like, well, let

1:16:47

me get a full list. And I was shocked

1:16:49

to see that was him. It's Andy Warhol. I

1:16:51

would love to know the more about

1:16:53

the backstory between Andy Warhol and Pop-tart

1:16:55

if there is a real backstory involved

1:16:58

in that. Because I would love to know. Like

1:17:01

I've seen a lot of articles. The Smithsonian mag

1:17:03

has an article right now about the

1:17:05

contentious history of the Pop-tart. And

1:17:08

so, yeah, I'll be getting into all of this.

1:17:10

Yeah. And that was before

1:17:12

this movie? This was dropped on

1:17:14

May 3rd. So no,

1:17:16

with the movie. So yeah, they probably got the screener.

1:17:19

Yeah. So they were ready to drop

1:17:21

this on to make it, you know, some clickbait. And

1:17:23

I'm here. And I want to know everything there

1:17:25

is to know about the Pop-tart now. Okay. All

1:17:27

right. Well, maybe you could work on the

1:17:29

actual documentary. Maybe there's some juice for this now. Yeah.

1:17:33

Once I finished surviving Diddy, I think I'll work on

1:17:35

that too. All

1:17:37

right. So that's basically

1:17:40

unfrosted. And then we have like a

1:17:42

big, like a dancing montage

1:17:44

and bloopers. And we pad out like a

1:17:46

minute and 34 or hour 34 on the

1:17:48

runtime. But

1:17:51

overall, I enjoyed this. I thought that this was fun.

1:17:53

I don't know if anybody else in my house would

1:17:55

ever want to watch this again with me, but

1:17:59

I was smiling. the whole hour and a

1:18:01

half that I watched it. No, I just,

1:18:03

it's very bright, very well made, sort of

1:18:05

like cheery, even when it's like, kind of,

1:18:07

you know, like doing insane things. Probably

1:18:10

better than it had any right to

1:18:12

be. It's not a perfect

1:18:14

movie, it's kind of bad, but it also has

1:18:16

like 20 good scenes. I don't know, it

1:18:19

was, I almost wanna try the

1:18:21

kids test and see what happens. Yeah. I

1:18:23

would say, well, I disagree in the sense I

1:18:25

think it could have been a lot better, but

1:18:28

I still did like it. I

1:18:30

liked the first about, yeah, again, about 50 minutes

1:18:32

more than the end. I think

1:18:34

they, you know, tried to do a

1:18:36

lot, but it's, again, it really has

1:18:39

Jerry's voice, I think, throughout a lot of the

1:18:41

bits that are just like too stupid to talk

1:18:43

about, like his little one line jokes are very,

1:18:45

you know, Jerry, I feel like Jerry, you like

1:18:47

that. A couple of last minute

1:18:49

things I just wanted to say. One

1:18:52

is I love the joke when

1:18:54

they put Hugh Grant on the

1:18:56

stand for the insurrection and the

1:18:58

guy's like, you said, quote, are

1:19:00

you like defecated in one of

1:19:02

the like largest local businesses and

1:19:04

said, quote, I've got some Kell

1:19:06

logs for you. Yeah. And

1:19:10

then just a last thought from my mom on this

1:19:12

who only watched the first 50 minutes, it did not

1:19:14

resume it with me this morning. But

1:19:16

when she saw James Marsden on

1:19:18

screen, she 100% seriously said, is

1:19:20

that Tom Cruise? So

1:19:24

I had to report that for the record because it

1:19:26

was quite unbelievable to me. Yeah,

1:19:29

I liked about the movie, I

1:19:31

guess I liked the parts that are true, right?

1:19:34

I do enjoy the fact that like, although this

1:19:36

is largely a parody, I

1:19:39

do like that it's historical as well, right? Cause it

1:19:41

really did get me interested in some of these conversations.

1:19:43

Even one of the last scenes in

1:19:45

the movie, they got to do a where are they now? Oh

1:19:47

yeah. Or some of the people

1:19:49

from, you know, the big players in the

1:19:52

development of the pop star. And we find

1:19:54

out about Marjorie Post. Yeah, a true story

1:19:56

about how Mar-a-Lago was built by basically by

1:19:58

her. I was like, what the hell? You

1:20:00

mean actually true You

1:20:04

know It's good in the credits for these things

1:20:06

when they have to do like the like where

1:20:08

are they now and it's like actually true Like

1:20:10

just literally happened and that's crazy to me because

1:20:13

Mar-a-Lago was the last thing I could have For

1:20:16

saw happening after the insurrection

1:20:18

bit. Yeah, cuz

1:20:20

it reads like a joke after you've

1:20:22

seen the whole movie But yeah wild

1:20:24

but no Marjorie post. Mm-hmm Queen Queen

1:20:27

cereal making a feminist icons I do also want

1:20:29

to shout out I think that the most successful

1:20:31

parts of the movie for me Really

1:20:33

were Melissa McCarthy Amy Schumer and then

1:20:35

the girly pop from the trash that

1:20:38

child. I thought she was pretty good

1:20:40

She was like those scenes Amy Schumer

1:20:42

and Melissa McCarthy especially I thought were

1:20:45

really really good. Mm-hmm. Yeah Yeah

1:20:48

Yeah, also in this movie is Sarah

1:20:52

Cooper who was really

1:20:54

super famous like during Pandemic times

1:20:56

when she used to do like

1:20:59

the Trump lip-sync videos Mm-hmm,

1:21:02

right and she was happy North

1:21:04

put yeah, she was poppy North cut throughout

1:21:07

movie I believe she's like working

1:21:09

alongside them. Yeah Okay.

1:21:12

All right. Well that was Unfrosted

1:21:14

very fun. Okay, she felt just

1:21:17

looking ahead so there

1:21:19

was something I flagged earlier that I thought

1:21:21

it might be interesting on Netflix that there

1:21:23

is a a Ashley

1:21:25

Madison documentary Which

1:21:27

I think could be interesting But I wanted to

1:21:29

actually pitch you on a Kiva is here and

1:21:31

I think he's not gonna like this But I

1:21:34

want to pitch you on a hanging with Hulu

1:21:37

Okay, let's talk about it. Okay. All

1:21:39

right, so there

1:21:41

is a new Documentary

1:21:44

film that's on Hulu that I believe

1:21:46

it's called the Contestant and I see

1:21:48

that it's been getting a lot of

1:21:50

buzz. Have you seen about this? I

1:21:53

have seen about This I thought about it and then

1:21:55

I was like, oh, I thought this was about like

1:21:57

a reality show that we could watch and

1:22:00

come to find out is way more

1:22:02

intense than anything I thought. Yeah, and

1:22:04

so it's the true story of a

1:22:06

Japanese reality TV star left naked in

1:22:08

a room for more than a year

1:22:10

tasked with filling out magazine sweepstakes to

1:22:12

earn food and clothing prompts

1:22:15

innumerable questions about our culture

1:22:17

of oversharing. And

1:22:19

people are saying it's very good. Oh,

1:22:22

well, it's been out for a minute, huh? Like, when did it

1:22:24

drop? I think it just came out this week. Oh,

1:22:27

okay. That or it just got very buzzy

1:22:29

this week. Do you know anything about this?

1:22:32

No, you know my opinion on,

1:22:34

you know, we've trade so far

1:22:36

from God's life, but it doesn't

1:22:39

do it. Yeah. Okay,

1:22:41

you should do it. All right. So

1:22:43

I know people have been asking about that

1:22:45

one. So, you know, we are going to

1:22:48

be on the road in Chicago this week.

1:22:50

So the recording, you know,

1:22:52

might be a little tricky to figure out, but

1:22:54

I do think that that's an interesting one to

1:22:56

get back to. Yeah. Tell

1:22:58

me more about Ashley Madison. Who was that? Ashley

1:23:01

Madison was, there was

1:23:03

a website that used to advertise,

1:23:05

it was a website to go

1:23:07

to to have an affair and

1:23:09

that there is apparently no

1:23:12

women were actually on the

1:23:14

Ashley Madison website. So

1:23:16

it was like a gay dating site? No,

1:23:18

no. But they advertise

1:23:21

like, hey, if you want to cheat

1:23:23

on your wife, go to ashleymadison.com because

1:23:26

there are women that want to cheat on their

1:23:28

husband waiting for you on

1:23:30

ashleymadison.com. I don't think

1:23:32

that there actually were any women

1:23:34

there waiting to cheat on their team. Oh,

1:23:37

I thought you could show up as somebody

1:23:39

who wanted to be with the married person.

1:23:42

Oh, maybe. Maybe that I again,

1:23:44

I that I am I

1:23:46

know of it. I don't know about how it works. And

1:23:49

then the list, yeah, the list of

1:23:51

the I think then you got blackmailed

1:23:53

also if you were on the oh

1:23:56

yeah. So they have Ashley Madison sex

1:23:58

lies and scandal is coming. to Netflix

1:24:00

on May 15th. Well,

1:24:03

we don't talk about that. I'm definitely going

1:24:05

to watch it anyway because that sounds tele-interesting

1:24:07

because if you think about it, you're going

1:24:09

to be a wild, wild boy to go

1:24:11

onto a website, put your real life information

1:24:13

into it and cheat on your wife because

1:24:15

it's not called blackmail. You gave up all

1:24:17

the information that was used. They say when

1:24:19

a dating site for people seeking adulterous affairs

1:24:21

is hacked, millions of the users intimate data

1:24:23

is exposed, wrecking marriages and destroying lives. So

1:24:26

this is saying that the more that the

1:24:28

website got hacked more than it was like

1:24:30

bots and fake accounts. I

1:24:32

guess. I just think it's very reckless. The

1:24:35

slogan is life is short, have an affair. I feel like

1:24:37

they could have done a lot better. We need madmen to come

1:24:40

in. Yes, should probably have. They're good

1:24:42

at having affairs, Alex. I'll tell you

1:24:44

that much. The madmen,

1:24:47

they're made for this one. Don Draper gets to

1:24:49

work. He had a lot of affairs. A

1:24:52

lot of them. I know Jolie would probably be more

1:24:54

in line with what they come up with for the top

1:24:56

card. Which

1:24:59

wasn't bad. I didn't think it was bad. It was

1:25:01

definitely not the right audience. I didn't think it was terrible. Yeah.

1:25:04

Yeah. Okay. All right.

1:25:07

Ali, what else is coming up for you? Nothing. I

1:25:09

don't know, Keith. We're going to do NGO soon. Well,

1:25:11

we'll do another. Yeah. All right. Well,

1:25:16

doing it, I have been a really quick to explain.

1:25:19

If you could explain on Renapp next time, Akiva,

1:25:22

what New Girl Old Guy is. Rob,

1:25:24

someone wrote to us that they had

1:25:26

heard Akiva say, NGO-G, but never knew

1:25:28

what it was until recently. Oh. But

1:25:31

if you want to listen to us talk about New Girl, that's

1:25:33

what it is. Check that out. We'll

1:25:36

be back soon. The challenge we'll hop

1:25:38

up for All Stars 4 is thriving. We're

1:25:40

having a great time in a new Facebook

1:25:42

group. We're loving

1:25:44

the season. So check that

1:25:46

out. robhasopcite.com/challenge feed. Okay.

1:25:49

All right. Well, Ali, so nice

1:25:51

to have you back here for Nothing But Netflix. Akiva,

1:25:53

anything additional you want to mention? We

1:25:57

dropped into Renapp. We went

1:25:59

to Pluto, Chappelle. Well, yeah,

1:26:02

we watched 12 different television shows on

1:26:04

Pluto TV. 32 fans,

1:26:06

I believe because you guys aren't doing it. I

1:26:09

think Chappelle and it's very sportsman on Chappelle and I,

1:26:11

excuse me, not Chappelle and I, Alex and I, Chester

1:26:13

and I are going to talk about the Tom Brady

1:26:15

rose this week and I'm inviting Rob

1:26:18

and Chappelle, time permitting, to come on

1:26:20

with us. But when are you doing

1:26:22

it? Monday? I

1:26:24

think, well, yeah, I think we'll record it on

1:26:26

Monday. I

1:26:28

don't think Brady is going to be great at being joked

1:26:30

about. I think he takes himself a little serious and

1:26:32

he will sit. Okay. Yeah,

1:26:35

I'm definitely interested in watching the the rose. I don't know

1:26:37

how much there is to talk about. I

1:26:40

think Belichick might be roasting. So that's a...

1:26:42

Oh, okay. You gotta go see that.

1:26:44

Yeah. And that's going to

1:26:47

be live on Netflix, Akiva? Yes, that's one

1:26:49

of their first live Sunday at eight, I

1:26:51

believe. Okay. Okay.

1:26:54

All right. Chappelle, what else is coming up for you? I'll

1:26:58

see you seeing you soon. Chicago,

1:27:00

obviously, the RHP Live, Know It

1:27:02

All or Live Watch Party. So

1:27:05

that'll be fun. But I'm doing a lot

1:27:07

of recording right now. It's your prep for this week of

1:27:09

absence. I'll have next week. So we got Deal

1:27:12

or No Deal Island, recaps and interviews

1:27:14

coming your way, exit interviews as well.

1:27:17

Jenny and I are still are podcasting about

1:27:19

the goat now. So we just dropped that

1:27:21

podcast and check out more coverage of the

1:27:23

goat moving forward as well from Jenny and

1:27:25

I on the Hitter Quit podcast feed. Pouya

1:27:27

is leading the conversation about Milk Manor and Rob.

1:27:30

Jenny and I are going to be tagging in

1:27:32

at various different times to talk about the milks

1:27:34

and the dilts and all the things in between

1:27:37

over on that, on the 90 Day Fiance feed here

1:27:39

on RHP. And

1:27:41

then of course, Sasha and I are talking about

1:27:43

Below Deck on the Bravo Wrap

1:27:46

Up feed every Wednesday going live with the

1:27:48

exception of this week because we will be

1:27:50

in Chicago. And you can catch

1:27:52

me on recapkickback.com where I'm talking about all the other stuff

1:27:54

that I want to talk about. So recently

1:27:56

we compared the boondocks to Good

1:27:59

Times. Black again and tried to really

1:28:01

discuss what worked and what didn't work

1:28:03

with those parodies and those satire's. So

1:28:06

that was a good time. I think

1:28:09

Latanya and I are dropping our, oh

1:28:11

yeah, our recap of Challenger. The hit

1:28:13

movie was in it. Yeah, we recorded

1:28:16

it and so we released very quickly.

1:28:18

Sasha and I are still talking about

1:28:20

Summerhouse Martha's Vineyard and then Gia and

1:28:22

I are still talking about Abbott Elementary

1:28:25

in Mari's Absence. And so yeah,

1:28:27

check that out and more on

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recapkickback.com and then go to youtube.com/at

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1:28:34

on YouTube. Okay, thank you everybody

1:28:36

for listening to us talk about

1:28:38

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