This episode was originally broadcast on December 5, 2019. When Joseph Illidge wants to talk to you about Batman, you talk about Batman. Because in addition to starting his career at the creative melting pot that was Milestone Media and honing his editorial chops at such publishers as Valiant, Archia, Lion Forge, and now A Wave Blue World, he was one of the Batman group editors from 1998 to 2001. He was there for No Man's Land, the launch of the Birds of Prey ongoing series, the introduction of Cassandra Cain as Batgirl, the Greg Rucka/Shawn Martinbrough experimental Detective Comics run, and more. For his fifth appearance on the show, Illidge drops by the underground recording studio to chat with Greg about all things Bat: from that No Man's Land tour of duty, to Birds of Prey, to Batgirls Gordon and Cain. He also unpacks last week's tweet about why the time has come for a black Batman. All that and more on today's episode! Robots From Tomorrow is a weekly comics podcast recorded deep beneath the Earth’s surface. You can subscribe to it via iTunes or through the RSS feed at RobotsFromTomorrow.com. You can also follow Mike and Greg on Twitter. Stay safe and enjoy your funny books.