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Listen and you will know. First of all, if you haven't heard this

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yet, I love this rod ar Kit Talk Radio one five nine kN RS.

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I bet a lot of you can remember where you were the last time

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the earthquake hit here in Utah. I think it was out there in Magnet.

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Remember what you were doing. I can tell you exactly what I was

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doing. I was at home in my office, working at my dad's putting

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the show together. But they're all kinds of interesting things that people were doing,

0:45

you know, when the earthquake hit. Now, a lot of people,

0:48

of course, are talking today about the earthquake, the four point eight

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magnitude of earthquake that hit the New Jersey region, the New Jersey region this

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morning, especially in Manhattan. I'm gonna tell you maybe the best story of

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this today coming up in just a minute, because if anyone can beat this

1:06

story as to where you were and what you were doing, I bet you

1:11

can. But we'll talk about that here in just a minute. How are you ever, buddy, Hello, Utah, Welcome to the Rod Arcuat show

1:15

on this Yes, it's Friday, Thank Rod, It's Friday on Utah's Talk

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Radio one oh five nine k NRS. And of course live everywhere online.

1:26

All you do is have to download us at knars dot com. Before we

1:29

began, I'll tell you this story here in just a minute. I want to thank Burgess Owens and his team. They had a campaign breakfast this morning

1:36

which Burges you know, appealed to people for help and they invited me to

1:40

come and speak and encourage people to donate. And it was really great,

1:42

wonderful listeners. And if you were there this morning, a lot of you

1:46

came up and said how much you enjoyed the show, how much you enjoy

1:49

on Wednesday when Greg and I are together, And Burgess Owns is just one

1:53

of those really good guys. So thank you everybody who was there this morning.

1:56

If you were who came up and said hello, it was really just

1:59

a nice, nice event, and I want to thank you for that. Now we've got a great show planned today. Gary Giggy is going to join

2:06

us, coming up at about fifteen minutes from now. He'll break down the

2:09

numbers for us on the unemployment, the unemployment figures that were released today.

2:14

What's been unusual about this you may or may not know, this is that

2:17

if the past twelve unemployment reports that have been issued. Eleven of those have

2:27

been revised downward, and they're already starting to revise these numbers down as well.

2:31

So are we getting the truth from the Biden government about unemployment. We'll

2:36

have to wait and see. Gary will break that down. We'll also talk about a unique website that is looking for certain types of employees and I'm surprised

2:45

they're getting away with this, but apparently they are. And of course later

2:49

on we'll talk about Biden's visit to the Bridge today, but I want to

2:52

start off. I mentioned this story. Okay, everybody has a story about

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where you were and what you were doing when a major event has happens in

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your life. And I can tell you some funny stories about what happened during

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the earthquake we had in Magnet a couple of years ago. Well in New

3:07

York today, while people took to social media to discuss feeling unprepared and surprised

3:13

by the quake, one man may have trumped them all. And I think

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he does after all. As the story is reported today, he was in

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the middle of receiving a vasectomy when the earth started shaking. Ooh, you

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guys are all going Oh, his name is Justin Allen. He's from Pennsylvania.

3:34

He was attending his scheduled appointment at the Urology Health Surgery Center in Huntingdon

3:43

Valley when he felt the whole room started shaking right in the middle of the

3:49

procedure. I know a lot of you are chuckling at this right The surgeon

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sort of froze, and all of us kind of seemed a bit confused,

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he told USA Today Today. At first, Alan thought the shaking was caused

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by a train passing by or some sort of issue with the building itself.

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It was only when the doctor said something he realized it was probably just mother

4:11

nature. Even when the surgeon said, that's got to be an earthquake,

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I thought he was joking. Everyone involved took a moment to pause after the

4:19

shaking stopped, Alan said, as the doctor had only been about halfway through

4:24

the procedure when the quake hit. Once everything had settled, he said,

4:27

everyone couldn't help but start laughing. That's a great, great story. So

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if you've got a better story in that, let me know. But this is a pretty good one. Guys, in the middle of a vasectomy and

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the earthquake shakes. Now, speaking of earthquakes. The Rock, Dwayne Johnson,

4:44

you know, big movie start, one of the highest paid movie actors

4:46

in the in the country today, has sent a shock wave to the Biden

4:51

administration. The Rock was interviewed today on Fox and Friends and he basically admit

4:57

that he regrets endorsing Biden that in twenty twenty. I won't play a clip

5:00

of this now. At first, you'll hear what was I think it was

5:04

five weeks before the election in twenty twenty when The Rock went on social media

5:09

and endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, And we'll let you hear that.

5:14

And then The Rock explaining why he's not endorsing anybody this year. Here it

5:17

is, I have never publicly endorsed a presidential candidate or a vice presidential candidate.

5:25

So I figured let's kick this conversation off this way by me officially publicly

5:30

endorsing you both. Are you happy you made that endorsement twenty twenty? Are

5:33

you happy with the state of America? Am I happy with the state of

5:38

America right now? Well, that answer is no. Do I believe we're

5:41

going to get better? I believe in that. I'm an optimistic guy,

5:44

and I believe we can get better. The endorsement that I made years ago

5:50

with Biden was one I thought was the best decision for me at that time.

5:55

And I thought back then when we talk about, hey, you know,

5:59

I'm in this position where I have some influence and it's my job,

6:04

then I felt like that, then it's my job now to exercise my influence

6:10

and share with this This is who I'm going to endorse. Am I going

6:14

to do that again this year? That answers no, I'm not going to do that because what I realized what that caused back then was something that tears

6:23

me up in my guts back then and now, which is division. And

6:29

that got me the takeaway after that months and months and months, I started

6:33

to realize, like, oh man, that caused an incredible amount of division

6:39

in our country. So I realize now going into this election, I'm not

6:42

going to do that. I wouldn't do that because my goal is to bring

6:44

our country together. I believe in that in my DNA. So in the

6:49

spirit of that, there's going to be no endorsement. Not that I'm afraid

6:54

of it at all, but it's just I realized that this level of influence.

6:59

I'm going to keep my power relatives to myself and I think it's between

7:01

me and the ballot box. My take on this with the Rod Johnson,

7:04

I think he is afraid of it because when he endorsed Biden and Harris back

7:09

in twenty twenty, there was quite a bit of blowback from fans of his

7:13

who do not like Joe Biden, do not like Kamala Harris, but our

7:15

supporters of Donald Trump. And I think he got the message. And yes,

7:20

this may be, you know, he wants to be independent, not

7:23

share an opinion anymore. I wish all entertainers would do that, but they

7:26

have a right to do it. We can't stop them. But I know

7:30

the underlying issue here, I think is he may have lost a few fans

7:33

with this endorsement, and I think that's why he said this year he is

7:36

not making any special announcement. Now, can someone answer this question for me?

7:44

What on earth is the matter with Kamala Harris? I mean, for

7:46

crying out loud, her poll numbers are just unbelievable, and how is it

7:53

possible that her numbers can keep getting lower and lower and lower. Well,

7:57

it could be perhaps Harris has a habit of saying obviously false things for transparently

8:03

political reasons that make her look kind of like a total idiot. She did

8:07

an interview yesterday about women's basketball and the bracket and the women's Final four.

8:13

Listen to this, do you know, okay, a bit of a history

8:16

lesson. Do you know that women were not the women's teams were not allowed

8:22

to have brackets until twenty twenty two? Think about that and what that talk

8:26

about progress, you know, better late than ever, but progress and what

8:31

that has done because of course, when you know I had a bracket, it's not broken completely, but I won't talk about my bracket. But you

8:37

know what, just how we love we love March madness and even just now

8:43

allowing the women to have brackets, and what that does to encourage people to

8:48

talk more about the women's teams, to watch them now they're being covered,

8:52

you know, And this is the reality people used to say, oh,

8:56

women's sports, who's interested? Well, if you can't see it, you

9:00

won't be. But when you see it, you realize, oh, oh

9:05

well, Kamala, oh yeah, I can't watch it either. You Ray

9:11

Ray shout, I'm not interested in women's basketball. But when she said,

9:15

oh, well, here's another oh for you, Kamala. The brackets for

9:20

the women's basketball tournament have been around for forty years. Nineteen eighty two is

9:26

when they started the women's brackets in women's basketball with the regional brackets, So

9:31

it's nothing new, Kamala. Just want to make sure you're aware of that, you know, And there are some people have more interest in it because

9:37

of Caitlyn Clark and she can throw them from all over the court and drop

9:39

them in. But just another moment where she's just dumb. She is.

9:45

Thank you, Ray, all right, mare coming up, it is thank

9:48

Rod's Friday. We're in kind of a nutty mood on this Friday afternoon. We invite you to be a part of the show today. If you want

9:52

to join in on our conversation, we may have to ask you that one

9:56

on Earth is the matter with Kamala Harris in the five o'clock More coming up,

10:00

we'll talk to Gary Giggey when we come back. Gary of course will

10:03

break down the unemployment numbers and tell us what's really going on. That's all

10:07

coming up on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k and RS. All

10:24

right, welcome back to the rod Arcatcho on this Thank Rodez Friday and Utah's

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talk radio want Oh five nine, can Terrest Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

10:33

Well, Joe Biden and Satan take him very long today to crow about

10:37

the strong March jobs report, saying it's a sign that his administration plans are

10:43

working. Oh really, that's what Joe said today said today Today's report marks

10:48

a milestone in America's comeback. The report basically claimed that there were three hundred

10:54

and three thousand new jobs created, and as Biden pointed out, he said,

10:58

quote, the US has now passed the milestone of fifteen million jobs created

11:03

since I took office. We know that's not completely the truth. Is Joining

11:07

us on our Newsmaker line to talk more about that right now is Gary Giggy, Gary of Courses with Giggee Capital Management. Always great to have Gary on

11:13

the show and break down the numbers for me. Gary, I want to

11:16

start off, first of all, I think it is in eleven of the

11:20

past twelve months, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which issues these reports,

11:26

has revised downward their numbers. What do you make of that? And could

11:30

we see that again? You are one hundred percent, right is the revisions,

11:33

which is what we call them to. Previous months have been on the

11:37

negative side, and that included this month as well. So let's just jump

11:43

into the headline number, which was much larger than anyone expected. So people

11:48

were expecting around two hundred thousand jobs created. It turned out to be three

11:52

hundred and three thousand. Now this month had a positive revision, unlike other

11:56

months, where the last two months added an addition twenty two thousand, which

12:01

brings the total number of creative jobs to three hundred and twenty five thousand.

12:05

That's a really big number, and so especially when a lot less was expected.

12:11

If we jump into the internals, which is what I would really like

12:15

to do, then the unemployment rate take down to three point eight from three

12:18

point nine. That makes sense because jobs were creative now the average hourly earnings,

12:26

so that's important, and it excludes bonuses, irregular cash, fringe benefits,

12:31

things like that. That was up point three percent in March and it'scept

12:35

four point one percent over the last year, so people are making more.

12:39

The hours worked also important. That was up point five percent in March and

12:43

it's up one point seven percent over the last year. So what this means

12:48

is that employees are working longer hours and they're getting paid more. That's all

12:54

really good. So for all of those employees that are working more hours and

13:00

earning more, that's great. The thing that's really interesting about this job report

13:05

that really has me a little bit confused is the type of jobs that were

13:09

created. So hospitality jobs that you know, you got to think restaurants,

13:15

things like things like that. So so that was that was one of the

13:18

areas. Healthcare that's that that was also one of the large area and government,

13:24

so manufacturing did not do well. Construction was up a little bit.

13:30

That's great, but I think it's because it's springtime and so you're going to see more construction projects happen. So the anecdotal information that I'm hearing and seeing

13:39

a lot is is that well, two factors. One of them is who's

13:43

getting the jobs, because there's a million less Americans that have jobs than three

13:48

years ago, and so that you know, leads people to believe and it's

13:52

been talked about a lot this week, is is that people, the migrants

13:58

who come into our country legally, they're getting a lot of the jobs that

14:01

were that were created so that's that's an interesting point. But also you know,

14:07

when you take a look at what's called the civilian number, and that

14:13

had a really big number of it's up four hundred ninety eight thousand, which

14:16

includes smart small employers and part time jobs. A lot of these jobs rob

14:22

may be going to people that have already have a job, so now they

14:26

have two jobs or three jobs in in or in order to make ends meet.

14:31

And I and so that's the really interesting part about this is trying to

14:35

connect dots. And I'm going, Okay, the private sector jobs were up

14:39

a lot, and a lot of those are part time jobs. So it

14:43

makes me think some of these jobs are going to people that already have a

14:46

job and now they've got two or three. And I was going to say,

14:50

have they got two or three because of the concerns about inflation and they're

14:52

just trying to make ends meet, Garrett, because we hear that all the

14:56

time as well. I think, so I think it it is something to

15:01

do with that, and that when it comes to inflation. This is really

15:05

interesting in that certain areas of inflation have come down. I'll grant that,

15:11

but a large areas thinking food gas, things like that, have not come

15:18

down. In fact, energy oil and gas have gone up a lot over

15:22

the last thirty days, and so some of that, of course is geopolitical

15:26

concerns and things like that. But still the average mon pa who are trying

15:31

to make ends meet are doing so with a little bit more money because again

15:37

they're working more and they're getting paid more out but it's not keeping up with

15:41

inflation. And that's why when Americans are surveyed, they are saying, my

15:48

life is not better than what it used to be, and so that tells

15:50

me they are struggling to keep up with inflation. Geary, let's stay on

15:54

the job issue, because I see this report. You may have seen it today in one of the local media outlets, I think it was Solo triviewing

16:00

that job growth in Utah's tech sector has become stagnant. Are we seeing that

16:06

around the country when it comes to the tech sector, not necessarily. I

16:12

have seen there have been layoffs, and so I'm thinking that the jobs number

16:19

probably relates to silicon slopes down in the Lehigh area because a lot of those

16:26

businesses, not all of them, but a lot of them are still private

16:30

businesses, not publicly traded businesses, and so they are dependent on investors coming

16:37

and get in putting more money into them in order to keep them afloat.

16:41

And so large private equity firms are telling their portfolio of companies, you need

16:49

to restrain your expenses because things could get tighter, and so they've been saying

16:55

that for well over a years, so I could I absolutely can see how

16:57

that makes sense in Utah, where in silic com slopes private companies could be

17:02

struggling with revenue and therefore employment is stagnant. That would make total sense to

17:08

me. All right, Gary, let's take a look at what the Fed

17:11

may do. You know, with interest rates. A lot of people are saying, how is this going to be affecting interest rates in the coming months?

17:17

If the job market remains like it is right now, what do you see the FED doing? Any ideas? Gary? I'm really glad you brought

17:23

that up, because I think today's jobs report must be looked at through the

17:27

lens of what is the Fed going to do? And next week is maybe

17:33

more important than the jobs report, which is the inflation reports. The consumer

17:36

inflation and the wholesale inflation incredibly important. So my opinion, for whatever it's

17:42

worth is that today's jobs report makes it less likely that the FED is going

17:48

to be cutting interest rates in June or July, which is what's expected.

17:52

So right now the financial markets are expecting three rate cuts this year. Still,

17:59

I think that make change just because you have a fairly strong employment situation

18:07

in America. In fact, I think it's actually a strong employment situation.

18:11

So why on Earth with the Fed cut rates? Because that may induce more

18:18

inflation down the road as well. So I think they're going to sit on

18:22

their hands definitely through well probably through the summer, the summer months. And

18:29

I hear a lot of people saying that they may not cut rates at all

18:33

in twenty twenty four at all, and so I don't think that the market

18:38

has calculated that into stock prices. And so if the Fed does happen to

18:45

lower interest rates, then I think that stocks will welcome that and love that.

18:48

If they don't, then they will adjust to that. But for right

18:52

now, using today's jobs report and viewing it through the lens of the Fed,

18:57

I think it makes it less likely at the cuts rates through throughout the

19:02

summer. Gary Gigy joining us here on the right arccat Show and breaking down

19:06

the jobs number for him. An interesting discussion I heard today, I think

19:08

it was on Sean Show today where you're talking about about gasoline prices. Gasoline

19:12

prices are now at ninety dollars a barrel, and if you stop and get

19:17

gas right now, you can see the price of gasoline I paid I think

19:21

for twenty two the other day. Are going to go up because indications are

19:26

that you're running into a situation right now where indications are they could go to

19:30

one hundred dollars a barrel. As this guest done Shan said today, the

19:34

oil producers in this country are cranking out. You know, they're on you

19:40

know, one hundred and ten plus. I mean, they're cranking out as much as they can and it's still not enough to meet the demand. So

19:45

we're having to shop around the world. And of course that's why the President

19:48

is pushing Ukraine not to bother the Russian oil facilities. Saudi Arabia is not

19:52

going to kick up anymore, So I get ready and right now they're transitioning

19:56

the refining reach are transitioning from the winter blend to the spring blend. So

20:00

guests is gonna stay high for a little while. And that's something that really

20:03

does worry the Biden administration. All Right, Moore, coming up here on

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live everywhere on the iHeart Radio App's Friday, so we'll open up the phones

20:53

to you in the five o'clock hour. That's or part of our think rod

20:57

It's Fridays or if they or something you heard this week that you can get

21:02

a chance to comment on something we may not be aware of. Do you

21:04

want to share that story and we'll take your calls coming up in the five

21:11

o'clock hour. You know, I can't remember where I was the other day

21:14

I went. I went to a store to get something, and I was waiting and waiting and waiting, and finally I had the one of the store

21:19

employees come up to me and say, we're sorry. We'll get to you

21:22

as quickly as we can. We had two of our employees who just didn't

21:26

show up today. I don't know how that happens, but you know,

21:29

they could have at least called, but they didn't. Didn't show up today.

21:33

And for a lot of employers out there, I think it's a real challenge today to find employees who are willing to work, show up on time,

21:41

do the job, and that's hard to do. A lot of the

21:44

woke generation they work when they want to. Well, then I discovered there

21:48

is a new website where you can actually find people who aren't woke and who

21:55

are willing to work. Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk all about

21:59

that is Jennifer. She's the ideas and culture editor at the des Red News.

22:03

It's a wooke free job board. Jennifer, how did you come about

22:06

finding this? What is it called? You know, it is the funniest thing because this company has apparently been around for two years, but somehow I

22:14

didn't get on my radar screen until they started running ads with this kind of

22:19

a caricature of perhaps the worst possible worker, somebody with their mouths open.

22:26

You could tell the person was screaming and she had multiple piercings. And hair

22:33

color not created by God, I'll put it that way. So, I

22:37

mean, the whole idea was you don't want this person working for your company,

22:41

and so therefore you should hire us to screen your employees so that you

22:45

can get employees more in line with your values. And so the first thing

22:51

after that I thought was, Wow, is this legal for them to do

22:53

this? So I just thought it would be interesting to kind of take a

22:57

dive into why even are hiring practices these days seem to be tinged with politics.

23:03

Is it legal with what they're doing, Jennifer, you raise a very

23:07

good question, is it even legal for what they're doing? Well, it

23:11

is to the extent that they're just asking questions in a certain way. And

23:18

I will say my first thought was is it illegal to to deliberately go after

23:26

people who are not young? And apparently the law on that I had not

23:30

realized. You may have known this, but the federal employment law in terms

23:34

of age discrimination only applies to older workers. It protects people who are over

23:41

the age of forty from age discrimination, but federal law does not protect younger

23:45

workers, although I believe in some states that there are laws to that effect,

23:52

but yet as far as the feder concerned, we can refuse to hire

23:55

twenty year olds all we want, yeah, exactly, And you know,

24:03

as the mother of twenty year old, I don't want people to start immediately

24:06

discriminating against twenty year olds. But the very existence of this company we kind

24:11

of highlight something that I find really interesting that's going on, which is this

24:17

kind of generational war going on in the workplace between the older baby boomer workers

24:22

who like to do things a certain way and younger workers who don't want to

24:29

do things the baby boomers. Ways. Who's the brain behind all of this,

24:33

Well, this particular company, and I believe there's more than one.

24:37

That this is the most prominent of the group. It was founded by a

24:42

man who is a tech entrepreneur who had been working for about two decades in

24:49

data analytics in the labor Ford. So he was kind of perfect for this.

24:53

He sold a company and so he had some money and wanted an adventure.

24:57

And this was about the time where people were getting fired for not getting

25:02

the COVID nineteen shot, and so he's saw an opening to try to place

25:07

these workers who you know. Of course, as we know, the vaccine

25:11

became a political issue but he very smartly saw an opening for there's a bunch

25:18

of disenfranchised workers who are looking for jobs and want to work for employers who

25:23

may have the same political views that they do. Well, it was going

25:27

to ask you, Jennifer, it sounds like there are companies out there who

25:30

are looking for people who want to come to work and don't want to put

25:34

up with all the silliness that the Wolk generation can bring to the workplace.

25:37

Sometimes that's basically what this is all about, isn't Yeah, it is.

25:44

And it's interesting because if you go to their website, which I believe is

25:48

red Balloon dot work, not dot com, which was an ending on the

25:56

url I wasn't familiar with, but I scrolled through a couple one hundred of

26:00

the listings, and I was actually surprised at how many they were, because

26:03

I was seeing this as a startup and I was thinking, oh, they'll

26:06

have like ten job listenings, but they had like five thousand listings, and

26:10

a number of them were you could tell that they were conservative oriented businesses.

26:14

For example, there was a creation museum in Kentucky that was hiring several positions,

26:21

so you know that that is going to be kind of evangelical in nature.

26:25

But there were also a number of just regular old companies looking for Dell

26:29

hygienis and things like that. But as the person I spoke to at this

26:33

company pointed out to me, anybody who goes to that website looking for a

26:37

job is going to get a feel for the kinds of companies that they represent,

26:42

and they will kind of self sort he thinks, when you pay with

26:47

that, we'll go to that website if they are that person with the lots

26:52

of those rings and the professive idealogy and the pink here right, and the

26:56

pink here. And can anybody pulls a job listing on the site or are

27:00

they pretty pretty tight as to who can post a job? Well, any

27:06

worker, anybody looking for a job can go and search their database for free,

27:11

and they can fill out a profile and get opening sent to them.

27:15

They make their money from companies, so anybody who is looking for workers has

27:19

to pay a fee, which I believe was around fifty dollars for the first

27:25

couple of months. Do not quote me on that. I did not include

27:29

that in the article because I didn't want to be an advertising vehicle for them.

27:33

But you can look that up on the website, but I think they

27:36

get you into a fairly low price to look for workers, and then it

27:38

may go up later on. Yeah, it's definitely yeah, And there are

27:42

a lot of Yeah, are a lot of companies responding to this. Do

27:45

they see this is a great opportunity to find the workers they're looking for?

27:48

Could you tell by your your review of what you' saw on their website it

27:53

looks like it is a startup, I will put it that way. I

27:57

believe that they said that about four thousand workers, I mean four thousand companies

28:06

had gone through them at this point. Again, they've only been in business

28:10

a couple of years. They're doing very limited advertising. They're targeting some conservative

28:15

websites. Where I found them was the humor website, the Babylon b and

28:19

I think the owner is going on podcasts and the like to kind of talk

28:25

it up and do word of mouth advertising, which is the way most of

28:29

these parallel economy kind of conservative oriented businesses are getting out there. Jennifer,

28:36

thanks for joining us, Jennifer from the deser Red News here on the rod

28:38

Ar Kitchen and Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine k n RS. All

28:49

Right, Welcome back to the rod Ar Kitcho. We just got an update

28:52

on the program. Going to make a little bit of a change. Patrick

28:56

Wiggins, who is the NASA ambassador to Utah, going to join us at

29:00

five oh five. He'll give us the latest on this big eclipse that everyone

29:03

is trying to see, or we'll try and see. I think it's coming

29:06

up on Monday. Patrick, people will join us and give us all the details that's coming up at five oh five in just about ten minutes here on

29:12

Utah Stark Radio one oh five nine can or as a couple of notes,

29:15

here's a media note today. Nearly a year after Fox News can you believe

29:19

it? It was a year ago parted ways with star host Tucker Carlson,

29:23

Greg Guttfeld appears to be the network's latest prize possession. Variety, the Hollywood

29:30

magazine, is reporting that Guttfeld has recently signed a contract extension in here as

29:37

his ratings continue to blow out the late night competition. I love hearing that,

29:42

beating Colbert and Fallon and all the other guys. This what Variety reported.

29:49

They said Fox News expected to announce that it recently closed to deal with

29:55

Guttfeld to extend his contract a move the spotlights the host importance to the networks

30:00

operations. Even if he isn't in the mold of Sean Hannity, Laura Ingram

30:03

and Jesse Waters, he has a lot of fun on the show, and

30:07

he does a great job on The Five. Under the Pack. Guttfeld will

30:10

continue co hosting duties at the Roundtable, The Five as well as ten PM

30:14

show. Gutfeld a loser take on, as he calls it, a loser

30:18

taking on the issues of the day. So if you're a fan of great

30:22

Gutfeld, good news. Looks like he's going to be a Fox for a

30:25

little while. I'm trying to figure out this one, Folks, jeans are

30:30

getting a bad rap. But bootcut, low rise, skinnier straight jeans reigned

30:36

supreme as a stylish staple of most wardrobes. Right, I mean, I'm

30:40

wearing them right now for decades. Denham Designs of greats, the dapper,

30:44

dairy air of many, many people. Well, apparently there is a report

30:48

now that says jeans are bad for mother Earth. Bad for mother Earth,

30:53

and yes, even if you wear jeans once, they are bad for mother

30:59

Earth. A study took genes says an example to reveal the carbon footprint of

31:03

fast fashion and the impact it has on mother nature. It says consumption and

31:11

it's additional climate impacts compared to traditional fashion, wrote the authors in a new

31:15

report, blow the competition away. Levi's been around forever, haven't they?

31:22

Fashion needs is wanting to dress like Celebs have turned to quickly constructed clothes made

31:26

by fast fashion brands like Sheen and Forever twenty one. Listeners have supported genes

31:32

for decades, making them a fashionable must have. If you're a fan of

31:36

genes, Apparently, according to this environmental group, they are your desire to

31:41

want to buy the latest fad is damaging the environment. And did you I

31:47

don't know if you've seen the ads recently. I think it's from Levi's that

31:49

they try and do everything they can to recycle the fabric. It's an environmental

31:53

thing. Say hey, we're a friendly gene family. I don't care what

31:57

they say. Jeans are genes. People have worn them for ever, it

32:01

will continue to wear them. So here you have this, uh, this

32:05

organization saying that jean wearing jeans bad for the earth. Yes, even just

32:10

once. So all you that are wearing jeans. She don't wear them anymore.

32:15

Yeah, they are getting nutty, or and nutty, aren't they each end? Every day? All right? When we come back following our news

32:20

update, we'll talk with Patrick Wiggins, the NASA Ambassador to Utah, will

32:22

get the latest scoop on the eclipse coming up, and we open up your

32:27

the phones for your phone calls on. Thank rod it's Friday. It's all

32:30

coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Yeah,

32:32

all right, stay with us, all right, welcome back our number two

33:05

about the rod Art Catcher with you on this Friday here on Utah's Talk Radio

33:09

one oh five nine k n RS. Listen, and you'll know I was

33:14

looking for the Oh here's the story I was looking for. We're just trying to reach Patrick Wiggins. Now, Patrick Records at the NASA Ambassador for the

33:21

State of Utah. He'll join us and talk about the eclipse and give us

33:24

the latest information here on that in just a minute. But I love this

33:30

story. Krispy Kreme, who, by the way, apparently is going to

33:32

be in McDonald's restaurants, in all the McDonald's restaurants by the end of the

33:37

end of the year. But Chrispy Krem I love this idea. You know.

33:42

Good marketinged on their part, celebrating the upcoming total solar eclipse with a

33:47

limited edition donut. In collaboration with Oreo, The donut chain will release the

33:53

Total Solar Eclipse Donut, featuring Oreo pieces and an entire Orio at its center.

34:00

The treat will be available starting today through Monday. According to the Crispy

34:06

Cream News release, ee clipses are rare, and so it is our out

34:10

of this world Total Solar Eclips donut that we're going to celebrate that. Well,

34:15

I love that idea, but this guy has already had one of those. Joining us on our newsmaker line is Patrick Wiggins, NaSTA Ambassador to the

34:21

State of Utah. Patrick, how are you welcome back to the rod Arquat Show. Having much fun and thanks for having me back? All right?

34:28

Have you had one of those Crispy Cream Solar eclips donuts yet? Patrick?

34:31

I want to know if you have one. Wait to say it, but

34:35

I hadn't heard of them. I guess once we're done here, I'm going

34:37

to have to go try to find thee There are a bunch of places brewing

34:42

beer for the eclipse. I think that's kind of fun. But yeah,

34:45

it's first I've heard of a cookie. Does having a few more beers make

34:49

viewing the eclipse a little more enjoyable? Patrick? Do you know, especially

34:52

if it's cloudy, drown your sorrows clouds over which, no, it's not

35:01

going to do that, you know, well maybe it will, Yeah,

35:04

maybe? What Patrick tell us about this total solar eclips Why is this such

35:08

a big deal for a lot of people. It's it's something that well we're

35:13

called umbre files or eclipso maniacs. People will travel great distances. I literally

35:19

have been around the world chasing these things over the last thirty years or so,

35:23

but this one is coming to us, which makes it a little easier

35:28

Now. Unfortunately, it won't be total here. You've got to go to Texas or someplace like that that's also going to be clouded, it looks like.

35:35

But it's just something that people like to do, and there is scientific

35:38

value to it as well. But the vast majority of people out there are

35:44

just going to be looking at this as an onspiring site in the sky.

35:47

Why is this happening? What is going on in the in the solar universe

35:51

out there to make this happen. Patrick, Well, most people probably know

35:54

the Earth orbits the Sun and the Moon orbits the Earth. Well, every

36:00

now and then those orbits kind of coincide where Moon slips in front of the

36:06

Sun, and that's what's going to be happening around noontime or thereabouts here in

36:10

Utah on Monday. The Moon will slip in front of the Sun, cover

36:15

at most about half of it for us here in Utah and then slowly tail

36:21

off from around eleven thirty to one thirty or thereabouts, depends on where you

36:25

are to get exact times. So we will there's a possibility we will see

36:30

something here in Utah. We don't have to travel to Texas to really see it. No, the Texas and going up to New England. That's the

36:37

total eclipse, and you know, if people are willing to do it.

36:42

I was planning on driving until I saw the weather forecast down there. But

36:45

a total eclipse, you've got to put that on the bucket list. Everybody

36:49

adds skydiving, but you also have to have total eclipse of the Sun on

36:53

your bucket list because it really is just an awe inspiring site to see something

37:00

like this from here in Utah. Sorry, half the sun is covered,

37:04

which means of course safety. First, Please don't go looking at the eclipse

37:08

on Monday without proper eye protection. If you've got glasses left over from last

37:15

October's eclipse or even the twenty seventeen eclipse, as long as they don't have

37:20

holes in them, they're still good. You'll be able to use them to

37:23

watch the sun. But please take care of your eyes. You can't replace

37:27

them. Well, I was funn to ask you about that, Patrick,

37:30

Our glasses really needed, but by what you just said, they really are

37:34

to protect yourself. Yeah, if you're in the path of totality where the

37:37

sun is completely covered, then yeah, take the glasses off and have look.

37:42

But we're nowhere near that. We're still going to have half the sun

37:45

still out there, so please wear the glasses. And if you don't have

37:50

the glasses, there's something that a lot of people have in their kitchen that

37:53

will work at colander that you drain spaghetti with and just hold it up and

37:59

let the light of the sun eclipse. If you will go through those holes

38:02

and onto the ground. Don't look through the holes, by the way,

38:06

let the light go through onto the ground, and you'll see a whole bunch

38:08

of mini eclipses down there, standing under a tree with lots of leaves on

38:15

it. Same thing on the ground, a bunch of little eclipses. So

38:19

there are ways of doing this, and if all else fails on TV,

38:22

it looks like everybody's going to be covering it live on television. Do sunglasses

38:28

work, Patrick or no? No, no, no, matter of fact,

38:31

without going into a lot of detail, sunglasses make it worse. So

38:36

don't use sunglasses. Use eclipse glasses if you can still find them at this

38:42

late date. But if not, don't risk it. I mean, eclipses

38:45

happen. They're not really that rare. There's another one coming up in October.

38:50

Of course you've got to go to South America to see it. But over the next ten years or so, don't be eclipses coming through here.

38:57

They're not terribly rare. The next major eclipse, though, that's twenty forty

39:02

five coming to Provo actually, so i'll be ninety six. I'll be the

39:07

guy with the Walkers eclipse. But I can't stress it enough. You've got

39:15

to be safe. As I've told many times before, A good friend of

39:20

mine he's the same age as me, in his seventies, and when he

39:22

was a kid, he looked at the sun and messed up one eye,

39:27

and he's had to live his entire life now he's in his seventies, all

39:30

those decades of not being able to see well out of one eye. So

39:35

please, please, please be careful. Now. I have heard stories of

39:38

some schools not going to let the kids out. I don't like that,

39:43

karens. If that's the case, check your kid out them safely look at

39:49

the sun. There's a group of convicts, believe it or not, in

39:52

New York if we're told they can't go out, and they're suing the state

39:54

saying we want to see the eclipse. So in their case, I'm maybe

39:59

not so sympathetic. But yeah, it's a neat thing to see. It's

40:04

a great thing to get people looking up. But unlike other astronomical events,

40:07

for this one, you've got to be safe. Yeah, Patrick, are

40:10

you surprised? I mean, I do know a family. I don't know

40:13

if they went down because of the weather forecast, but they were actually driving

40:15

down, going to drive down to Texas and see this thing. It depends

40:19

on what the weather's doing. But I've seen stories over the past couple of

40:22

weeks of the amount of money that this thing is creating and pumping into the

40:27

economy. Are you amazed by that? It is amazing. It's billions of

40:30

dollars people. Well, I mean, if you go back to twenty twelve,

40:35

there was an eclipse that went through Canaravelle, Utah. There's still videos

40:39

online of this, and it's normally around three hundred people. They were over

40:44

ten thousand people that crowded the city that day, and people were selling these

40:49

eclipse glasses like twenty bucks. The hotel rates went way up. A good

40:53

friend of mine, actually the hotel in Dallas called to say, oh,

40:58

we've had to change things. That reservation you made a year ago for like

41:01

fifty nine dollars, it's now eight hundred dollars. We need your credit card

41:06

number. And so some people are being ripped off by this. But yeah,

41:10

people don't realize that total eclipses garner an awful lot of money for the

41:15

areas that they happen to pass through. All right, are you going to

41:19

pack up the kazillion telescopes? I know that you have, And I head

41:22

to some weird spot on the globe to get a look at this thing,

41:25

Patrick, what will you be doing on Monday? My plan, and it's

41:30

becoming less likely. The idea was to leave Sunday, drive down to the

41:36

Dallas area, see the eclipse, and then come back again. I do

41:39

that sort of thing. I drive long distances, but all along the eclipse

41:44

path up to well, maybe New England might be okay, but that's too

41:47

far from me. So chances are, unless there's a really big change in

41:53

the weather forecast for the Texas area, I'll probably stay here. Hey,

41:59

I've seen over the years, right, so it's not like I'm missing it.

42:02

But I would like to see it. But I don't want to drive

42:07

twenty two hours just to see cloud Yeah, just to see clouds and rain.

42:09

Yeah, that's what I understanding. I watch it on TV, Yeah,

42:14

like most of us. All Right, Patrick has always great chatting with

42:17

you. Good luck on your solar eclips gazing, and we'll see what happens

42:22

on Monday. Thank you, Patrick, all right and d all right?

42:25

All right, Patrick Wiggins, he is the NASA ambassador to Utah, great

42:29

Greek guy of knowing Patrick forever, and he really does understand all of this,

42:32

And I didn't realize that we will see we won't see it total eclipsed.

42:36

We'll see it partial eclips here in Utah. But Patrick could only stress,

42:38

and he stressed it very hard. If you are going to take a

42:40

look at it, make sure you have the proper eyewear protection. Be safe,

42:46

protect those eyes. All right, more coming up on the Rod Arcut

42:50

Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can Arras. All right,

43:00

welcome back to the Rod arquetchow here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,

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canter s live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. All right, this is

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the time we opened up the phones to you talk about whatever you want on

43:13

the show tonight. We'll give you this hour eight eight eight five seven oh

43:16

eight zero one zero triple eight five seven zero eight zero one zero or on

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your self, howging dial pound two fifteen and say, hey, Rod, a couple of questions I have for you tonight. I mentioned this this article

43:30

I saw today, I think it was in the Washington Examiner, and they posed a very interesting question, what on earth is wrong with Kamala Harris?

43:36

Maybe you can answer that question for me tonight. I mean here she was

43:39

yesterday she was. You know, it seems like every time she opens her

43:43

mouth, she says something stupid. And here she was being interviewed yesterday,

43:46

being asked about the women's March March Madness Tournament, and she, you know,

43:52

she told the reporter, did you know a little bit of history for you? Because I'm smarter than you are. She didn't say that, those

43:57

are my words that the brackets have really made a difference in women's college basketball.

44:02

You know, they just started in twenty twenty two, and they really

44:06

have made a difference in college basketball. The more people are seeing it now

44:09

because of those brackets, and oh what a treat it is. Right,

44:13

well, those brackets have been around since nineteen eighty two for crying out loud,

44:16

But apparently no one told her that, and so that, you know,

44:21

it's just one of many mistakes that she made. Maybe you can give us an idea what your take is on Kamala Harris and you know what's wrong

44:28

with her. I want to play a audio sound bite that we had.

44:31

What was it, I believe it was on Tuesday. This was Robert RFK

44:37

Junior. He was on CNN and caught him by surprise because they handed him

44:44

you know, they were kind of goading him into saying something about Donald Trump

44:47

and this call to a threat to democracy that Joe Biden is always claiming that

44:52

if Donald Trump is elected, it will be a threat to democracy. Now,

44:57

if you haven't heard this audio SoundBite, I'll play this chang change again

45:00

and then I want you to I want to hear from you and get your

45:04

reaction to this as to who you think is the bigger threat. Here's Robert

45:07

F. Kennedy Junior unseen it. Well, when people talk about the threat

45:09

of democracy that Trump poses, do you really think that that is is an

45:14

equal Yeah, listen, I can make the argument that President Biden is a

45:22

much worse threat to democracy. And the reason for that is President Biden is

45:25

the first candidate in history, the first president in the history that has used

45:30

the federal agencies to censor political speech. So the censor is his opponent.

45:36

I you know, I can say that because I just want a case in the Federal Court of Appeals and now before the Supreme Court. It shows that

45:43

he started censoring not just me, for thirty seven hours after he took the

45:46

other office, he was censoring me. No president in the country has ever

45:51

done. That the greatest threat democracy is not somebody who questions election returns,

45:55

but at president United States, he was the power of his office to force

46:00

the social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, to open a portal and

46:06

give access to that portal to the FBI. The CIA is the irs,

46:10

de SISA, the NIAH to censor his political critics. As in Biden,

46:16

for the first first president of history use the secret his power over the Secret

46:21

Service to deny Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons.

46:28

He's weaponizing a federal agency. He's weaponizing a federal agency. And the

46:34

point that RFK Junior was making, that's just one instance, by the way,

46:37

he brings up several. So you know, the Biden administration and Democrats,

46:42

and I've never understood where they're coming from on this, but they claim

46:45

Joe the election of Donald Trump would be a threat to democracy. But if

46:50

you look at what Joe Biden is doing, isn't he a bigger threat to

46:54

democracy? And you can start very early simply by what he's done on the

47:00

border. He has a constitutional responsibility to secure the border for the people of

47:07

the United States of America. And I had a story the other day.

47:10

It's it's a close number now, but in the what three years since he's

47:15

been President of the United States, more illegal immigrants have come into the United

47:21

States than did through Ellis Island. And it took Ellis Island to permit people

47:30

coming into this country. To the tune that Biden has sixty years to reach

47:32

that goal, Joe Biden has done it in a matter of three years.

47:37

It's amazing number. Threat to democracy about ignoring the Supreme Court. The Court

47:44

has said, mister Biden, you cannot do a student loan forgiveness program.

47:47

You cannot tell one group of people that their loans are forgiven while another group

47:52

of people were required required to pay those loans back. That is unconstitutional.

48:00

But it is illegal and you can't do it. But because Joe Biden needs

48:04

the young vote, what does he go do? He works his way around

48:08

the Supreme Court. There is Kates after Kates after Kates, where you could

48:19

make the argument that it is Joe Biden who is the greater threat to our

48:23

democracy than Donald Trump ever will be. And of course they all siged January

48:30

sixth. January sixth, in my opinion, was a protest that turned into

48:34

a riot and it was stupid. They shouldn't have done it. But the

48:38

media love to always refer back to Jaye six saying, see, if he

48:43

becomes president, you know, there's a real chance that he may try for

48:46

another term, which would be against the constitution. And if he wasn't elected,

48:52

he would just try and take over. You know, that's not couldn't

48:54

happen. Remember I've said this before. The checks and balance is worked.

49:02

We have a president, the electors were certified, so the process worked.

49:10

And so you know, a couple of questions for you tonight, and we'll

49:15

open up the phones to whatever you want to talk about. First of all,

49:17

maybe you can give me an idea of what's wrong with Kamala Harris.

49:21

Maybe she's just not a very smart politician. I don't know what it is. And who is the greater threat to democracy? Joe Biden or Donald Trump

49:31

eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple eight five seven eight zero

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49:43

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50:35

Ho's College is doing it us here on the Rod Arcat Show. How

50:37

are you sir? Thanks for joining us tonight. Hey Rod, Pascal again,

50:40

it's becoming a weekly thing. How are you doing? I'm doing well,

50:44

Pascal. What's on your mind? I have a couple of ideas for

50:47

entrepreneurs that are younger than I am. Okay. One would be I want

50:53

an app for my phone where I can take it and tap a watermelon and

50:59

it tells me, hey, I'm right, or no, I'm not right. How cool would that be? I don't know if it's even possible,

51:05

but it would be awesome when you say you're right or you're not right, Like a question you have about something, Is that what you're looking for?

51:10

Something like that? No, I'm just throwing it out there. No,

51:13

I don't know enough about it. But wouldn't it be cool to tap a watermelon and your phone says, yeah, I'm right, Yeah, you're right.

51:19

Telling you all the time. See, if you're in an argument with

51:21

some friends and they disagree with your point, you tap that thing and say,

51:23

look what the watermelon just told me. I've got another one. Okay,

51:29

you've heard you've heard of a swat team? Oh yeah, oh yeah,

51:35

okay, how about a squat team where you hire return vets and you

51:40

load them up with the bulletproof vests and maybe Louis Beville slug or bat and

51:47

they go and get rid of squatter. I thought that's where you were going

51:52

with this one. I thought you were going with that. You know what I'm going with that. Have you have you heard of intimidation getting out of

51:58

there? Yeah? Have you heard of any squatter proper in the state of

52:00

Utah. I haven't heard of any I imagine they may be around, but I haven't heard of it. I just I just heard it's increasing in California

52:07

right now. Yeah, they're in New York. They just had a case in New York the other day. Was pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah,

52:14

yeah, those are two ideas. All right, all right, bos Gal, thank you have a great weekend. Thanks for calling this. It is

52:19

thank Rod. It's Friday. Eighty eight eight five seven o eight zero one

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zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero, or on your cell

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phone. All you do is have to dial Pound two fifteen and say,

52:28

hey Rod, now my voice today is being really challenged. So we you

52:31

know, a few phone calls means I don't have to talk a lot.

52:35

We give you a chance to do it, and we've made it through this

52:38

week this. You know, I had surgery, like I told you a

52:42

week ago, Wednesday. Everything went well with the surgery, but then I

52:45

get out of the you know, the hospital. I was only outpatient one

52:47

day and felt good for several days, and then all of a sudden,

52:51

I said, what's going on here? And all of a sudden I get

52:54

yet another sinus infection, which are never fun to have, by the way,

52:59

those of you who have them, And this one is viral, so the antibiotics don't touch it. So I'm on steroids. So if I sound

53:06

a little weird, you'll know why. And you know, a little odd,

53:09

no different from any other day, right, but that's why you And

53:14

it does impact your voice because you can't breathe, you can't get the air

53:17

through your vocal cords the way you need to. And the old nosey thing

53:22

apparently has a lot to do with the way you sound. So eight eight

53:24

eight five seven eight zero one zero. If you don't want to hear me

53:28

squeak and squawk all day today on this crazy voice that I have, love

53:30

to hear your phone calls about any of the issues that you see are out

53:34

there. You know. Mike Lee said something interesting. He appeared at an

53:38

event today for Carolyn Fippen and she's one of the candidates who's running for the

53:43

US Senate, and Brian mulahy, our news partner there a Channel two,

53:45

asked him, are you endorsing Carolyn? He said no, but he does

53:49

want to go around. He's accepted invitations from the other candidates in the race.

53:53

And he wants to go around and hear what they have to say.

53:59

And I don't think Mike will audition anybody or will audition, will endorse anybody

54:04

before the primary or the county convention, and then he'll give his full weight.

54:07

He supports the party and supports There are a lot of good candidates in

54:12

the Senate race right now, and it's going to be very, very interesting

54:15

to see what the type of candidate a voter wants to serve in the US

54:22

Senate. A lot of people are just so sick and tired of Mitt Romney and that for years the one question I got was what's wrong with Mitt?

54:32

And I think he you know, he disappointed a lot of people out there,

54:37

but he kind of telegraphed it before he got in there, folks,

54:40

so you know it is our falls whatever eight eight eight five seven o eight

54:44

zero one zero eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero, or

54:47

on your cell phone, dial pound two fifteen and say hey, Rod,

54:50

back to the phones we go, and let's talk with Wendy in Salt Lake City tonight. Don't think Rod is Friday. Hi Wendy, Hi, Hey

54:57

Rod. I just wanted to let the the listeners know that there is a

55:00

YouTube video out there of Tulci Gabbard being interviewed by Tucker Carlson that is so

55:09

amazing. Everybody has to listen to this. She talks about changing from a

55:15

Democrat to a Republican. She talks about the corruption that is going on in

55:21

Washington, DC right now and who is behind running this country right now.

55:25

She just did not mince any words. I hope that President Trump picks her

55:31

to be his VP candidate because I think that there's a lot of women that

55:37

I know that I talk to that are Christian based in Utah that say they

55:42

will not vote for Donald Trump. And I do believe that if he chose

55:46

someone like Tulci Gabbard that that might change the women's vote in this country.

55:53

I would hope. So, Wendy, would you prefer Tulca Gabbard over someone

55:57

like Nikki Haley? And if so, why, Yeah? You know,

56:04

Nikki Hayley to me, is too she's too Rhino, she's too Mitt Romney

56:08

tries to say the right thing. If you listen to this interview, you

56:14

will know that Tolci Gabbert doesn't care what people hear her say. She does

56:19

not care if she you know, she's been on the wrong side of Hillary

56:23

Clinton for a long time and she talks about that and she just doesn't care.

56:30

And you know, Tucker Carlson, he said to her, you never

56:34

sold yourself out for money, and she never, like she wouldn't even ride

56:37

first class in airplanes. And she said, no, I have. I

56:42

have too high of a moral compass to sell myself out for that. So

56:46

I don't know. I just really liked her. So I'm telling your audience

56:51

to go and listen to that for sure. All right, Wendy, thank you very much. As a matter of fact, when she was running for

56:57

the Democratic nomination, what was it back in twenty twenty, I believe she

57:00

was here. We had her in studio and really nice lady and very down

57:06

to earth campaign. Her husband was her campaign manager. He was here taking

57:08

pictures of us with the interview, taking pictures, you know, so they

57:13

can put it on the website very nicely. I like Dulsea Gabbertt. I I like her a lot, and I think she has a great story to

57:19

tell about why she left the Democratic Party, and of the everyone who's been

57:23

listed as potential vice presidential candidates, she is one I would highly favor.

57:30

I'd be just fine with that. Let's go to Brad in a pleasant view

57:32

tonight here on the right oar ktcho Brad, how are you? Thanks for

57:36

joining us tonight. I appreciate that. Rod. Hey, this is just

57:39

a quick one on your on your your struggles with your sinus in section.

57:45

They're buggers, they are buggers. Helped me out, Help me out, Brad. You know, back in school going to Weavers State, Remember one

57:52

quarter I had fifteen credit hours and work went ten hour shifts and I had

57:58

two little that time, and I I was averaging three hours night sleep for

58:05

about six weeks. It did me under, but I was I was taking

58:08

the most high doses of amentton they would give me, and it would just

58:13

felt like something was wrong. But here's the here's the remedy. You get

58:15

some t tree oil, get about five or six drops, put it in

58:19

them in the little pan and steam it and smell, you know, kind

58:22

of sniff to the steam for a while. I for the last like fifteen

58:28

years now, I haven't had to have any biotics. As soon as I

58:30

feel it coming on, and now I just put it on my lip,

58:35

my lip. You know I don't have to smell it like that like I used to. But give it a shot. Man. What's it called.

58:40

What's it called bread? T tree oil tree, It's it's me. It's

58:44

Mela Lucas oh T tree T E A T R E E T trioil.

58:50

Most places have it. Hey, I've got to try it. I'm with

58:52

you, bred and they are horrible to deal with. I mean they you just I don't know what it is bread, But thank you for that suggestion.

58:58

That's something I'll try you. I trust, I trust my doctor, but I'm looking for any good remedy. Sometimes. My mother I remember years

59:05

ago, well I was just a kid, and you know, we kids

59:07

were kids. I had five other siblings. We'd get colds and stuff,

59:10

or we'd be stuffed up, and she would always tell us to take a

59:14

little bit of salt, put in your hand, put a little warm water there and just sniff it. Who did that ever burn the sinuces? Maybe

59:21

it did permanent damage to my sinus. And that's why I'm getting them. Im Me try what Brad suggested. All right, more coming out more your

59:27

phone calls. It's a help brought out day today. I'll thank rod Is

59:30

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right now eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero triple eight five

1:00:00

seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say

1:00:05

hey Rod. Coming up in just about fifteen minutes, we'll talk with Sean

1:00:09

Kennedy. Sean is a visiting fellow at the Maryland Public Policy Institute, and

1:00:16

he'll talk about the economic importance of the Francis Scott Key Bridge, which collapsed

1:00:22

or collapsed after a hauler ran into the darn thing, and the importance of

1:00:28

that and why they need to rebuild it quickly and examples of what they can

1:00:30

do. There are many people are predicting, with the way our government works

1:00:34

today, this may take forever to get that thing rebuilt, and we hope

1:00:37

not because of the impact the economic impact is having done people in that area.

1:00:42

And we'll talk with Sean about that. All right, let's go back

1:00:44

to the phone see what's on your mind. Tonight, Let's go to Ogden and talk with John. John. How are you welcome to Thank Rod?

1:00:49

It's Friday. Thank you. I appreciate it, You're welcome. I got

1:00:53

a kind of in the middle of as a voter, the two bumpy old

1:01:00

men or playing tug of war with our votes. And I have been a

1:01:05

Republican voter for the last ten years, but I'm not kind of liking the

1:01:08

way that Trump is kind of coming out this year, and he's kind of

1:01:14

all over the map and Republicans are talking about going after Social Security. Biden

1:01:22

to me is kind of on a verge of being committing treason. When he

1:01:30

took the vote for office, he one of the promises he made is to

1:01:34

make our and keep our country secure, and I believe that he's crossed the

1:01:42

line on that. And though that him and Bernie want to protect the Social

1:01:49

Security which is my worry with Senator Lee if he goes ahead and vote for

1:01:55

what's currently in Congress. About this coming up, I've got a few people

1:02:02

that I've talked to at several different senior community senators that have said that they

1:02:07

would openly discuss censoring Mike Lee if he does vote for it. Well,

1:02:15

j let me answer, Jenny, let me answer a couple of those questions

1:02:19

or thoughts that you have. Let me let me give you my opinion on

1:02:21

those, if you don't mind, John. The heart of the question that

1:02:24

I'm really going for is do we take a look at voting for mister Kennedy

1:02:34

VP candidate. Well, you certainly can if you want. I think at

1:02:37

this point we're still the only state where he's on the ballot. If you

1:02:40

want to do that, that's your right. When it comes to Trump and

1:02:45

Biden, I don't see a big difference between Trump now and Trump in twenty

1:02:52

sixteen or twenty twenty. And I always say, someone said this to me

1:02:55

months ago about this, because you know, people talk about this. I

1:02:59

look at the policies and the politician. And if you weigh the policies of

1:03:04

what Donald Trump wants to do versus the politician, do you come out ahead

1:03:07

in voting for Donald Trump instead of Joe Biden. I mean, look at

1:03:12

the policies and the politician. When it comes to the issue of Joe Biden,

1:03:15

which do you prefer? You know, what helps you better? I think I think what Donald Trump is trying to do. And I think if

1:03:22

he is elected, John, he will approach things differently. I think he

1:03:27

learned his lesson about Washington. I think he'll do something different. What do

1:03:30

you say? I think that right now that Okay, let's ask you another

1:03:37

question. Do you want to vote for a president with morals or no morals?

1:03:40

Well, certainly right now Trump has at this moment. Trump has,

1:03:45

this moment is a he's asking you to pay for his fines. If he

1:03:50

is going to man up, and if he is going to be he tends

1:03:53

to act like he's above the law instead of taking and understand that. This

1:04:00

is why we have judges, this is why we have supposedly the court of

1:04:04

the lands. Well, let me let me, let me let me answer

1:04:08

that. Yeah, let me let me answer that one. John. I

1:04:10

don't think he thinks he's above the law. I think he thinks the weaponization

1:04:15

of the law being used against him to take him out as a competitor.

1:04:18

And I think a lot of people agree with him. A lot of these

1:04:20

charges are really you're going to you're a force a guy to pay four hundred

1:04:25

and fifty million dollars for a fine that's never happened before. So I think,

1:04:30

you know, I don't think he places himself above the law. He

1:04:33

just thinks, wait a minute, the law is being used against me to

1:04:35

keep me out of the race. And I think there are a lot of

1:04:38

people who agree with him on that. I'm trying to do a little bit

1:04:44

more research on that. You know, done. All right, John,

1:04:47

I'm sorry to cut you off there. I've got to get to a break here. But I think you know the questions that John raises. First of

1:04:53

all, again I go back, no man is perfect, no man or

1:04:57

a woman perfect, right, stand that? So I think then you go

1:05:01

to look at the policies and under the four years of Donald Trump, this

1:05:05

country was really starting to shake, rattle and roll. I mean, it

1:05:09

was doing very well. And then COVID cad him along and it changed things.

1:05:14

And how Trump responded to that. You can make an argument, and

1:05:16

if you want to vote for j RFK Junior, you can do that as

1:05:19

well. All right, we'll talk about the impact of the collapse of the

1:05:24

bridge in Baltimore. Coming up our number three of the rod Ar ketcho It's

1:05:27

on this way. Stay with us, all right, Welcome back our number

1:05:44

three of the rod Arcut Show here on Talk Radio one O five nine,

1:05:47

can rs live everywhere on the Iart Radio app on a cold Man? Did

1:05:51

it turned cold quickly? Today? Along the watchsat front. We've got the

1:05:56

wind coming in, some rain, may it some snow even in the valleys

1:05:59

this week. So do the best you can to enjoy the weekend, but

1:06:02

it could be a rather chilly one, all right. Joe Biden paid a

1:06:05

visit to Baltimore today to talk about the what happened with the Francis Scott Key

1:06:11

Bridge and the economic impact is going to have. You know, it could

1:06:14

take a very long time to rebuild that Baltimore Bridge, possibly longer than it

1:06:18

took to build the whole trans Continental Railroad. America can't wait for that.

1:06:24

We've got to get it rebuilt as quickly as we possibly could. And let's

1:06:27

talk about why. Joining us on our Newsmaker line tonight is Sean Kennedy.

1:06:30

Sean is a visiting fellow the Maryland Public Policy Institute to talk about this.

1:06:36

Sean, thanks for joining us. Do you talk about the importance of getting

1:06:40

this bridge back up and going as soon as we can do? People,

1:06:43

Sean, in your opinion, understand the economic impact this is going to have

1:06:46

to the Baltimore, Maryland area. Sean. It's one of the largest ports

1:06:50

on the Eastern Seaboard. And one thing that we didn't mention in the I

1:06:55

didn't mention the article was it's the number one source of auto embarkation both in

1:07:00

and out of the country on the Eastern Seaboard. So we're talking about auto

1:07:04

jobs and electronic electric vehicles and all these other things. They're coming in and

1:07:09

out of the Port of Baltimore. There's a series of other industries that are

1:07:12

directly tied to that more than any other port, more than the New York,

1:07:16

New Jersey port, or the Norfolk Port or the Port of Miami.

1:07:20

That our industries linked directly to Baltimore more than any others. So those supply

1:07:26

chains are going to be snarled up by any delays or problems at the Port

1:07:31

of Baltimore, and that's going to drive inflation. In addition to job loss

1:07:34

and economic productivity declines. There's going to be knock on effects for people who

1:07:39

live in Wisconsin, for people who live in Montana, for people who live

1:07:42

in Utah. Sean, let me ask you, and you made a very

1:07:45

good point in your article, I mean, what, in your opinion, is it going to take to get this bridge rebuilt and have it rebuilt quickly.

1:07:54

It's going to take will. It's going to take wherewithal from both state,

1:08:00

local, and federal officials. And it's there. We've done it before,

1:08:03

not only in two thousand and seven when the Minneapolis bridge collapsed and Governor

1:08:08

Tim Polenti worked with the Democrats in Congress and President George W. Bush to

1:08:12

get it done, but in Florida, just recently, in Philadelphia when the

1:08:16

overpass collapsed on the highway of the I ninety five. There, they rebuilt

1:08:21

that in twelve days because people knew that it was a critical artery that they

1:08:27

couldn't just let it take drag on for months or even years. They had

1:08:31

to do it, and they'd do it fast. So once there's will,

1:08:34

people will get their act together. But if we're allowing this to sort of

1:08:38

drag on and move very slowly through the bureaucratic red tape, then you know

1:08:43

it'll take It'll take another decade. And there are literally bridges in this country

1:08:47

that had taken over a decade from groundbreaking to completion, even though they could

1:08:53

be done they could have been done in a year. Sean, is there.

1:08:56

Do you get a sense that there is a will to work together?

1:09:00

And that's a big issue, a big question, I think, to work together to get this done. Do you have that sense now, especially on

1:09:06

this bridge in Baltimore. I think that there is a will, but I

1:09:11

don't know if there's a singular leader. In two thousand and seven, in

1:09:15

Minneapolis, the singular leader was Governor Tim Polenti. In Pennsylvania, the Democratic

1:09:20

Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania was the singular leader. He said this is getting

1:09:26

done. It wasn't the mayor of Philadelphia. It wasn't the Senator from blank

1:09:30

or even President Bush in two thousand and seven, it was the governor of

1:09:33

Minnesota and the governor of Pennsylvania, respectively. They did it. So Governor

1:09:38

Wes Moore needs to be the one in the ear of President Biden and his

1:09:42

cabinet secretaries, in the ear of members of Congress, in the ear of

1:09:45

Baltimore officials, and he's saying this is getting done for the state of Maryland.

1:09:49

It's really the onus is on him because there is only one person who's

1:09:54

in between everyone up and down the chain, and that's the governor. From

1:09:59

what you've seen so far, do you like the progress you're seeing, If

1:10:01

progress is taking place, John, I'm I'm heartened by the fact that they've

1:10:06

already started doing debris removal at some of the largest sections. Just yesterday they

1:10:12

removed a three hundred and fifty ton portion of the bridge that had been submerged.

1:10:15

I don't know if it's been totally removed from the channel, but that's

1:10:19

progress. They're moving very difficult things around the channel that is moving water.

1:10:26

Unlike you know, the river over in Minneapolis was not a very fast moving

1:10:30

certainly wasn't a tidal basin, it wasn't that deep. This is a much

1:10:33

more challenging operation, and they're already making progress. I'm just hope that we

1:10:39

don't let what I'm already seeing is this. If it is towards welfare,

1:10:44

there's the Labor Secretary is already talking about displaced worker benefits, and the best

1:10:48

thing for any of these people who've lost their jobs or will be impacted is

1:10:53

a new paycheck, not a welfare check. But somehow the solution seems to

1:10:57

always be, well, just hand out checks to anyone who may or may

1:11:00

not have been impacted instead of getting them a new job. Sean the construction

1:11:05

technology that we have available to us today comparing that to what was available back

1:11:12

in what was it, nineteen seventy seventy two when this bridge was built?

1:11:15

How much will that allow this to move much quicker than say, back in

1:11:19

the early nineteen seventies. Because of the technology we have today, it could

1:11:26

move much more quickly. The problem is we have huge advances in technology,

1:11:30

and we've had huge advances in red tape. Right now on an expedited timetable,

1:11:36

unless something somebody moves mountains for one of a better word, we are

1:11:41

going to see the five year time span it took to build it in nineteen

1:11:45

seventy two to nineteen seventy seven look like a blink of the eye compared to

1:11:48

how long it's going to take them to build this today. Because of the

1:11:51

triplicate red tape, we have local regulations, state regulations, and better regulations,

1:11:57

and all of those red tape volumes have expanded immensely since nineteen seventy two.

1:12:03

So we're going to see every bit of technological advance and the way to

1:12:09

expedite the process slowed down by another bureaucrat saying we've got to do another review,

1:12:14

or we have to do a safety check, or are we complying with all the labor standards that have been put in place over the last six months.

1:12:19

And that sort of box checking phenomenon is going to cost us time.

1:12:26

Anytime saved with new technology. But I'm going to go back, as Sean,

1:12:30

if one person like you talked about was put in charge of this and

1:12:32

giving all the power he needs or she needs to get this done, would

1:12:36

that be the difference. Absolutely? If the governor empowered one person and they

1:12:43

were the go between between the feeds and everybody said we're getting this done like

1:12:45

they did in two thousand and seven, or like they did in Philadelphia just

1:12:48

last year, this could be done. I'm not saying it could be done

1:12:51

as quickly as Minneapolis that took fourteen months, but in two years this could

1:12:56

be done. It's it's possible. The engineer technology is there, the wherewithal's

1:13:01

there, and we know the federal government has at least pledged that the money

1:13:04

will be there. So the money's there, the technology is there, It's

1:13:09

all about the wherewithal to push the red tape aside on a sidebar. How

1:13:13

much of a debate do you see happening over the renaming of this bridge,

1:13:16

because I've already seen stories out there about Francis Scott Key bridge. He was

1:13:20

a slave owner. They want to change the name as a sidebar story.

1:13:25

Do you see a real debate taking place there, Sean, I have not

1:13:29

really been paying attention to that. I mean, I think that he is

1:13:31

such an icon for Baltimore that I mean, who you would choose in lieu

1:13:36

of him would be a shadow of who Francis Scott Key is, both as

1:13:41

an American symbol and as a symbol of Baltimore. So just picking some token

1:13:45

person that has more PC credentials isn't going to fly, I don't think,

1:13:49

even in Baltimore. Joining us on our newsmaker line, he's from the Maryland

1:13:54

Public Policy Institute, John Kennedy talking about building the bridge in Baltimore. Back

1:14:00

up and running as fast as we possibly can. All right, more coming

1:14:03

up right here on the rod Arceutcho and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five to

1:14:06

nine k and rs. Time now for a news update. Welcome back to

1:14:19

the rod Arcetcho on Utah's Talk Radio. One oh five nine K and are

1:14:24

ass now. Typically our Listen Back Friday segments begin at the bottom of the

1:14:28

hour, but because we've had so many interesting interviews this week, we're going

1:14:31

to bump it up a little bit and play three segments on our Listen Back

1:14:34

Friday segments that we normally do for just a half hour on a Friday,

1:14:38

we're doing it for about forty five minutes today because we've had some great interviews.

1:14:42

As I said now speaking right now, as a matter of fact,

1:14:45

her remarks may just be starting up. The University of Utah is all American

1:14:48

swimmer from the University of Kentucky, Riley Gaines. Riley Gaines has led a

1:14:51

tremendous effort in protecting women against men who think they're women, competing against other

1:14:59

women, real women, biological women. She has really worked hard in this

1:15:02

endeavor. Well. We had a chance to talk to her earlier this week

1:15:05

and I asked her first of all about this posting that was put on the

1:15:10

website of the National Organization of Women which attacked women who are opposed to trans

1:15:15

athletes are in fact called them racist. And I asked Riley her reaction to

1:15:18

what now had to say, have you ever seen so many oppression buzzwords in

1:15:25

one sentence? Wow, apparently I'm a white supremacist patriarchist. I don't even

1:15:30

know what that could possibly mean. And let me be very let me reiterate,

1:15:34

be very clear what I have been advocating for till I'm blue in the

1:15:40

face these past two years. It is merely fair sport and privacy and areas

1:15:45

of addressing that is it. I'm so confused, I'm baffled. It's almost

1:15:50

comical, really that the National Organization of Women has totally abandoned women. That's

1:15:59

what they've done, actually, the ones leading the charge and dismantling our rights

1:16:02

to privacy, our rights to safety, our rights to equal opportunity as women.

1:16:06

So they're they're almost laughable. It's like a South Park episode. But

1:16:11

it's rightly, how surprised to you that now has gotten in this direction.

1:16:16

I mean, I'm with you. I would think they want to do everything

1:16:19

they could to protect women, but it seems they're going in the opposite direction.

1:16:24

What happened? Do you think, Riley? That's been the tune really

1:16:29

at every level across the country, the state level. You look at our

1:16:32

elected, our elected officials the federal level, and both the US House and

1:16:36

the US Senate, it's fallen, at least the Protection of Women and Girls

1:16:41

in Sports Act have fallen entirely on party lines. So, for example,

1:16:45

in the US House, that means two hundred and nineteen Republicans voted in favor

1:16:49

of protecting women and girls in sports. In all, two hundred and three,

1:16:53

every single last one of them, mothers and fathers of their own young

1:16:56

daughters, voted in opposition. Democrats voted in our position of protecting women and

1:17:00

girls in sports. You even look at someone like Billy Jean King, who

1:17:06

is who we have to accredit title nine two. This is a woman who

1:17:11

you know, she won the Battle of the sexes. It was this huge

1:17:15

feat for women. It propagated us US forward, and not just sports,

1:17:19

but in the workplace, within our personal relationships. Really as a sex Billy

1:17:25

Jean King propagated US forward. She is now actively fighting for male inclusion in

1:17:30

women's sports and women's spaces. So, and you know, Republicans have historically

1:17:36

been labeled the woman haters. Yeah, but they're proving that to be more

1:17:44

and more false daily. They're the ones who are fighting for our rights,

1:17:46

not that this issue should be political. I'll be very clear on that too.

1:17:50

It's incredibly unfortunate that this has been hyper polarized in the way that it

1:17:55

is, but based off of what we do know and what we have seen,

1:17:58

it's Republicans fighting for women's rights, not Democrats. They can't even define

1:18:01

what a woman is not anymore. That's hard for me to believe, but

1:18:05

apparently they can figure out a way to do it. Riley. Riley,

1:18:09

you'll be speaking at the U as part of your Reclaim Feminism Campus tour.

1:18:13

In your opinion, you've been doing this for what about two years now, I think, Ryler, in your opinion, how goes the battle? Are

1:18:18

you winning? Do you think you're making a difference. We're absolutely winning.

1:18:25

Truth and sanity they always prevail, at least from a worldly sense. I

1:18:30

certainly believe that the tide is turning. I think people are waking up daily

1:18:34

to the harm and the severity that is being had by saying that men can

1:18:40

claim the identity of women become a woman. People know that cannot be true,

1:18:45

and certainly from a moral sense, an eternal sense, the battle has

1:18:50

already been won. We know the outcome. The Bible tells us the outcome,

1:18:55

which is certainly what keeps me grounded. It keeps a smile on my

1:18:59

face. It's how I'm able to do this with an incredibly light heart,

1:19:02

because again, I have security in the fact that, yes, of course

1:19:05

we're fighting for objective truth, but we're fighting for biblical truth and are God

1:19:11

created male and female, and that's the message that's the most important. Spreading

1:19:15

His word, his gospel, being a steward of our Lord and Savior.

1:19:19

So I certainly believe that we are winning, that's for sure. Rightly,

1:19:26

I'm not sure in your events that you have been conducting around the country if

1:19:30

you allow for question and answers, If you do, what is the most

1:19:32

frequent question that comes up in this issue, rightly, what do you hear

1:19:36

from people out there? Well, I certainly allow for Q and A.

1:19:41

I especially love it when people who don't agree, or who are there in

1:19:45

opposition, or who just genuinely have legitimate questions. I love when they ask

1:19:51

questions. Some questions that come up from those parents or community members or even

1:19:59

students on teams at these colleges. They'll say, well, you know,

1:20:02

should we not compete if a mail is up if we're up against a mail

1:20:06

or there's a mail in the pool or whatever. That question comes up a

1:20:12

lot to which I say, yes, I think you should not compete.

1:20:15

Boycotts have been proven to be effective in the past throughout history. That's what

1:20:19

we need. That's how we send the message no enough is enough. I

1:20:25

have people ask me if we should create a third category. I have people

1:20:28

say, you know, well, what about intersects, individuals? The list

1:20:32

goes on of different ways. But again, the questions and opposition are always

1:20:38

so easy to Rebut this topic, Riley, what is your message generally?

1:20:45

I mean, you have an overall theme as you make these remarks at campuses

1:20:48

around the country. What is the message that you were trying to relate to

1:20:51

people who attend these events. So my message I'll speak at I'll speak to

1:20:58

at the U of course, I'll share what it takes to be an only

1:21:00

athlete, how I was really thrust into this position in regard to the unfair

1:21:05

competition in the locker room and the silencing. I will speak to the broader,

1:21:12

the broader issue here at hand, how it's much larger than just women's

1:21:15

sports. The impact that's been had since and of course, what we as

1:21:20

everyday people can do a call to action, whether again you are someone who

1:21:26

is young, someone who is old, whether you're male, female, black,

1:21:29

white, whatever, gay, straight, doesn't matter. What we can

1:21:33

do is everyday people to ultimately put America as a whole, really the world

1:21:39

back on track. Before I let you go, Riley, I've got to

1:21:42

ask you about what transpired over the weekend with the White House issuing the proclamation

1:21:46

on Transgender Day of Visibility following on Easter Sunday as well. What was your

1:21:51

reaction to that, Riley? When you saw that? I personally, when

1:21:54

I saw that, and I disagree with about everything that Joe Biden and his

1:21:58

administration do, was by that. As a Christian, it just offended me,

1:22:02

and I'd never been offended by anything he's done other than all those policies.

1:22:06

What would your reaction to it? Riley? Well, at first I

1:22:11

thought it was a parody account, and then I thought to myself, oh

1:22:15

man, did it actually turn April first? And it's April Ful's Day. Both of those were naive to believe because they did do this. And I

1:22:21

will tell you for the past seventy two hours, whenever this broke maybe four

1:22:27

days ago, three days ago. I have felt so disheartened, I have

1:22:31

felt so demoralized. As you said, this administration has proven to be a

1:22:36

disaster time and time again. But this did cross a personal line. Corrupting

1:22:43

Easter, the most holy of holidays, by proclaiming it as Transsibility Day and

1:22:48

also eliminating Christian symbols from being used in the White House. Easter celebrations should

1:22:55

tell you everything you need to know about their motives. It's showing you how

1:22:59

this movement is is their new religion, which again the Bible tells us,

1:23:03

It tells us of this, It tells us we will reach this point.

1:23:09

In all my feelings of kind of being disheartened and again demoralized, I have

1:23:14

to remind myself that there's really no reason to feel that way, because again

1:23:16

the battle has already been one, and God is very clear that he is

1:23:21

not mocked. And for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

1:23:27

And so if he soweth to his flesh, shall he shall of the

1:23:30

flesh reap corruption. So it's very clear, it's outlined very clear in the

1:23:34

Bible, what is to expect when when this type of thing happens, so,

1:23:41

but I think this cross the line, especially in an election year.

1:23:44

This was a terrible live on their behalf. Riley Gaines, former All American

1:23:47

swimmer from the University of Kentucky. She now has the Leadership Institute. She's

1:23:51

going around the country talking about the importance of protecting women's sports. More of

1:23:56

our Listen Back Friday segments coming up right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O

1:24:00

five nine k n R S The rod Arcet Show on Talk Radio one oh

1:24:24

five nine kN R S. All Right, welcome back to the Rod Arket

1:24:30

Show on this Friday afternoon. As we continue now with our Listen Back Friday

1:24:34

segments here on Talk Radio one oh five nine, can arrest. You know

1:24:39

you've seen stories of late about how unhappy Americans are. You know, there's

1:24:43

a lot going on in the world. I still think, and I mentioned

1:24:45

this today in some remarks I made at a breakfast meeting today with Utah Congressman

1:24:51

Burgess Owens. I still think there has been an undercurrent in this country ever

1:24:56

since it's founded of hope, and I still believe that people hope for a

1:25:00

better days. But right now they're a bit concerned so why are people so

1:25:02

unhappy? Earlier this week, we had a chance to talk with Tara Sonnenshew

1:25:06

and Greg Hughes and I did on a Wednesday's Wingmen Wednesdays show, and she

1:25:12

is a teacher at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

1:25:16

And as Greg and I began our conversation with Tara, we asked her,

1:25:19

first of all, why are Americans so darn unhappy? Well, I'm surprised

1:25:25

a bit by the fact that a lot of the unhappiness that put America twenty

1:25:30

third and the Happiness Index this year, whereas last year we were in the

1:25:35

top twenty fifteenth. I am surprised that when you dig into the numbers,

1:25:42

a great deal of the unhappiness comes from Americans thirty years old and younger.

1:25:49

And that took me aback, and I think it's worth sort of deciphering what

1:25:57

that's about. Tarah, my wife, I was wired happy. So my

1:26:01

life calls it self delusion. So maybe it's a me thing. But I

1:26:05

would think that the longer you're here, the more institutional knowledge you have or

1:26:09

memory you have of life, you might be able to contrast times gone past

1:26:13

versus today, and I would have predicted that that was the demographic the older

1:26:16

age Americans that were unhappy. When you point out the younger people, is

1:26:20

it are they just do they have a distorted sense of reality or are there

1:26:25

real stresses that they're feeling right now. Well, it's a great question.

1:26:30

Perception and reality can often get intermingled. But this Gallop study really broke itself

1:26:35

down looking at GDP, social support systems, life expectancy, cultural feelings,

1:26:44

all kinds of things, and I think there is both perception and reality operating

1:26:48

with thirty and under. Some actually feel financial stress. They're trying to pay

1:26:55

back loans, their wages may not have exactly met prices. Some of the

1:27:01

young people that I've studied and I teach are feeling almost a existential worry.

1:27:13

They worry about climate change, they worry about war. So you're right,

1:27:16

they don't have the perspective to maybe say it's all going to be fine in

1:27:21

the end. But there is a lot of anxiety. Social media use,

1:27:29

sense of disconnectedness. So I think those can make people, particularly in a

1:27:35

big country like America, maybe not as happy as the people in a small

1:27:42

country like Finland. You know, what the tarah. I mean, if

1:27:45

you look at the you talk about the younger generation, the people under thirty,

1:27:48

and you look at my generation, and I'm a baby boomer, I

1:27:51

had the same worries when I was at their age. You know, can

1:27:55

I you know, am I going to make enough money? Can I get

1:27:58

a good job? Am I going to be able to pay off student loans?

1:28:00

What's the difference between the two generations. Is it all? Can we

1:28:03

blame it all on social media? No? I think some of it is

1:28:08

some I know in the case of my adult children, they have not felt

1:28:14

that they'd necessarily be able to do as well by their children in the big

1:28:18

sense, not just economically, as as we maybe gave the sense that we

1:28:27

could really lead the next generation their trust in institutions. You know, I

1:28:33

think growing up, maybe baby boomers myself included, you know, we didn't

1:28:38

distrust the courts, the media, politics, and if we did, it

1:28:44

was just youthful questioning. I don't think it was a deep low confidence in

1:28:51

institutions the way I see thirty in under feeling. So what's the way back?

1:28:59

I mean, we love to share with our listeners, so that's the

1:29:02

circumstances we find ourselves in you. You're smart on this issue. What do

1:29:08

we do to turn things around and give people that sense of optimism that American

1:29:12

dream is out there for you and you should be excited about it. Well,

1:29:15

some of it is what you're doing by having a conversation. We do

1:29:19

need discourse where we're questioning our culture, we're listening in some ways. I

1:29:27

think we have to go almost block by block, street by street, community

1:29:30

by community to reinfuse ourselves with a sense of faith and faith not having a

1:29:36

monopoly on any religion or institution, but that sense that you're looking out for

1:29:43

the next person and that we're not kind of alone peddling and paddling upstream Terra.

1:29:50

Sounds like what you were saying there. We just need to maybe work

1:29:55

a little harder right now at just trying to connect with each other again.

1:30:00

Well, I do think the bowling alone phenomenon that we've talked about from years

1:30:03

ago, the sense that we're kind of hold up on computers and listening on

1:30:09

on our phones, and we're not interacting with nature, with ourselves, with

1:30:15

our institutions, with our organizations. So I do think just dialogue and dinner

1:30:23

conversations and getting out and about just reinfusing ourselves with a sense of what you

1:30:31

started out by saying, you know, we can find inner happiness, we

1:30:34

can find external happiness. It shouldn't be this difficult as human beings in this

1:30:42

great country to have this sense of decline. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1:30:47

have it. We're gonna have an uncomfortable conversation. I'll ask you uncomfortable question.

1:30:50

So I'm a conservative, okay, And I would argue that there is

1:30:55

one political party who really does revolve around fear and and and really talking about

1:31:00

things in the most uh dark ways, or the destruction of dot dot dot.

1:31:06

And I actually think that there is still a party of Reagan. There

1:31:10

is the happy optimist. I do think that there are things that to talk

1:31:14

about that are that are more positive. Do you see any political divisions between

1:31:18

or or people that identify with political parties that may be more depressed or more

1:31:25

optimistic. Did that show up anywhere? Well? Yeah, it's interesting.

1:31:29

In this happiness study, it was really regardless of political interesting party an affiliation.

1:31:34

It was really more about do you feel like you've got a healthy life,

1:31:41

that you have a generosity of spirit that you can support your children,

1:31:46

that you can pay your bills, and really it crosses party lines. I

1:31:53

think what both parties have in common is an unhappiness with political dysfunction. And

1:32:00

I think if we can get out of our narratives about whose fault it is

1:32:03

and who has I love that I'm kidding just we kind of have to put

1:32:11

that aside and come back to some human basics. We all want to be

1:32:15

safe, We want to have a sense of security, and we want to

1:32:19

have a sense of meaning and purpose and that really doesn't have an R D

1:32:24

or an I and dependent on it. It really is a pretty human attribute.

1:32:30

As part of our Listen Back Friday segment, our conversation that Greg Hughes and the Head earlier this week with Tarah Sun Andshine senior fellow at Tufts University

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talking about why Americans are so unhappy marv Our Listen Back Friday segment coming up

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1:34:08

Thank Rod, It's Friday on Utah's dock rating on one oh five nine

1:34:13

K and rs. All right, you know, we had the jobs report

1:34:15

out today. We spoke earlier with Gary Gigey and he dug into the numbers

1:34:19

and took a look at how things are going. There were some interesting articles

1:34:23

this week, one in the Wall Street Journal which talked about gen zers have

1:34:28

now become the tool belt generation, meaning that they're turning more toward vocational jobs

1:34:31

instead of going to college for a four year degree. We spoke with Adam

1:34:35

Carrington, he is the associate professor of politics at Hillsdale, about this and

1:34:40

I asked him, first of all, why he thinks is good that fewer

1:34:42

people are going to college. Yes, I think there's a negative and a

1:34:45

positive reason for this. The negative is just how unbelievably expensive college has gotten

1:34:51

way beyond a lot of people's normal means without taking on too much debt,

1:34:56

and also a bit of the fact that a lot of college are focusing on

1:35:01

things they shouldn't be, as far as ideology, and often very progressive ideology

1:35:06

that doesn't necessarily comport with a lot of Americans values. But the other is

1:35:12

they're just seeing that even though many of us were told college is really the

1:35:16

only way to have a successful life, it's what everyone should want, they're

1:35:20

really seeing that that's not true. That people can make good livings, raise

1:35:25

their families, live in good communities, and have the dignity of working with

1:35:30

their hands with a lot of jobs like being an electrician and plumber and other

1:35:33

things. So it's really elevating the dignity of work in a way and in

1:35:36

a broader way than it was before as well. So both those negative and

1:35:41

positive elements. This is really a change in attitude, though, isn't it,

1:35:44

Adam, Because I grew up in that generation that you just described.

1:35:46

You have to go to college, you have to get a degree, you

1:35:48

have to work to be able to afford a living, and a vocational education

1:35:53

or working in the trades was never really emphasized. Are you surprised that shift

1:35:59

is changed. Not in the sense that it's come, I didn't know when

1:36:05

it might come, But the idea that that was the only path to success,

1:36:12

I think really overly narrowed what human beings experience in life. And you

1:36:18

really just can't write off the dignity of work that one can get from working

1:36:23

with their hands, that one can get in those more vocational areas. So

1:36:27

I think that eventually people were going to realize that that was too narrow.

1:36:30

That doesn't mean college is a bad thing. It's a good thing for certain

1:36:33

people. But I think that there we were due for that course correction because

1:36:39

in human history that was just too narrow a view of what human success and

1:36:43

human ability can look like. You also write at them, I didn't even

1:36:46

realize this, And you write about this in your article today about the desire

1:36:51

to avoid the doldrums of work in an office. I mean I work in

1:36:57

a studio on an office each and every day. This gives people the new

1:37:00

generation and opportunity to work outside the office and do different things. How much

1:37:04

of a fact does that play into what we're seeing taking place. I think

1:37:09

it plays a lot. And I too work in an office. I'm in

1:37:12

my office right now. I do a lot of work on a computer screen.

1:37:15

I find that very fulfilling for me. But that again just isn't how

1:37:21

everyone operates. And there are people who like to get out and do physical

1:37:27

things again, work with their hands, work with strength, work with nature,

1:37:31

be in different locations and not just one particular one for office work or

1:37:36

something. And again, I think this really is just pulling in those people

1:37:44

and not demeaning what they want, not demeaning how they operate, but saying

1:37:47

you are a valuable part of our economy, you are a valuable part of

1:37:51

our communities, and we need to recognize the dignity of your contribution to our

1:37:57

common good in a way that maybe those older views you and I grew up

1:38:01

with didn't do a good job of ascertaining and explaining. We're talking right now

1:38:06

with Adam Carrington. Adam is the Associate professor of Politics at Hillsdale College.

1:38:13

Adam, let's talk about the political impact of this change. What do you

1:38:15

see? Are we going to see a political shift because this change is starting

1:38:19

to take place. I think it could lessen some of our tensions, partisan

1:38:27

tensions where there's really a class divide based on who has a college degree and

1:38:31

who doesn't, because there might be a more common understanding of the different goods

1:38:36

everyone is contributing. There might be less condescension from the college educated side,

1:38:42

and maybe less frustration from those who are more blue collar and getting these others

1:38:47

educations. I would hope so. And I've even seen some bipartisan decreasing of

1:38:54

the emphasis on college degrees. The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania recently lesson how many

1:39:00

of the jobs and state government needed college degrees. So the idea that there

1:39:04

might be some bipartisan redignifying of those who have done different education and vocational paths

1:39:13

could maybe be a way of getting a little bit of taking the temperature down

1:39:16

in some of our partisanship. We'll see, but I think it has that

1:39:19

potential. This changed. How are our universities responding to this? Do they

1:39:25

see it taking place? And what impact is it having on them? I

1:39:29

think they're starting to And there's obviously serious financial trouble that a lot of universities

1:39:35

are in, and there is already going to be a problem of after the

1:39:41

Great Recession, a lot fewer people had children, so when that generation comes

1:39:45

of age to go to college, there'll just be fewer people that could even

1:39:48

choose college. But we'll see how they navigate this, and I think there

1:39:55

can be a refocus on what is a college education for taking it away from

1:40:00

ideology, taking it away from making colleges too much like you know, amenity

1:40:06

filled almost like luxury resorts, and get back to what a real college education

1:40:13

is about. And I think that could be that the successful colleges will do

1:40:16

that. I'm not going to say that's going to be all of them,

1:40:19

but I think the ones that are able to wade through this will rethink a

1:40:24

world where everyone isn't being driven to them, but they need to for good

1:40:29

reasons, show people why they still matter. Well, it sounds like,

1:40:31

Adam, you're talking about the it's time for the universities and higher education institutions

1:40:36

in this country to get back to the basics. Is that what you're basically

1:40:40

saying they need to do now? Yes, get back to what does it

1:40:44

mean to educate human beings and citizens that are equipped to be good voters,

1:40:51

good members of this country, good at their work, and understand what it

1:40:58

means to live life together. The old idea of a liberal arts education being

1:41:02

cultivating the entire person, but doing it in the classroom and doing it with

1:41:08

an idea of what are the things we're really committed to as a just and

1:41:13

right and a society that wants to see people flourish. And I think we've

1:41:18

many universities have gotten away from that, re asking what that looks like.

1:41:23

And we have a whole history of it in our past institutions, our founding

1:41:27

institutions, our founding of our universities. I think if we look back to

1:41:30

that, we'd really have a blueprint we could return to. As part of

1:41:33

our Listen Back Friday segment, Adam Carrington joining us on our newsmaker line talking

1:41:38

about gen Z becoming the tool belt generation. All right, that does it

1:41:43

for us tonight, as we say each and every night, head up,

1:41:45

shoulders back, May God blet you and your family and this great country of

1:41:48

ours. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll be back on Monday with a

1:41:53

brand new addition of the rod arquetchul. Have a good, safe weekend.