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here in Utah. How are you, everybuddy, Hello, Utah, Welcome

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to the Rod Arcat Show on this Monday afternoon. Great to be with you

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had got another jam packed show headed your way today. I loved the former

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president's response. I don't know if you heard this, but the former president's

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response today when it was learned, and we'll get into this here in just

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a minute, that the appeals court there in New York had granted him a

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partial victory, a partial victory in his soil for fraud case, reducing the

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bail from the bond he was required to put up today from four hundred and

1:07

fifty four million dollars down to one hundred and seventy five million dollars, which

1:10

by the way, is not chump change. But when the president was asked

1:14

how he's going to pay for it, he just he said, cash.

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I just love it. I mean, who has one hundred and seventy five million dollars in cash lying around? Now? He may have just been kidding,

1:23

knowing him, he wasn't. He was probably having fun with the reporters

1:26

yesterday. But it is still a staggering amount. The good thing about this

1:30

the president to have former president has another ten days to decide what and how

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he is going to pay for this. Hello, Utah, Hello everybody.

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Great to be with you on this Monday afternoon right here on the rod Ark

1:41

Kent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can or asked listening,

1:45

you'll know this hour coming up this hour, you know, the the

1:49

changes that have been paid. Well, we'll get into the Ronald McDaniel story

1:52

here in just a minute as well and her short foray on the NBC News.

1:57

But the last couple of weeks there has been a some people have called

2:02

it a blood bath. Some people have called it a purge at the Republican

2:07

National Committee, and that is the committee which basically runs a Republican party,

2:10

and we'll all get into that also. You know, we had. You

2:15

know, the whole immigration thing continues to be a mess, and there is

2:21

no doubt that this administration doesn't seem too concerned about it, even though they

2:27

should, because all the polls are indicating that immigration is now the number one

2:31

issue for the American people. Well, my question is, does Mexico really

2:37

care if we have illegal immigration into this country? My guess is no,

2:40

And we'll talk to somebody about that on the show. And of course a

2:44

lot to get to before we wrap things up today as well, so we

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invite you again to be a part of the program. Eight eight eight five

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seven eight zero one zero. Are on your cell phone, Just dile pound

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two fifty and say hey, Rod. All right. Well, the big

2:57

story of the day, of course, a New York appeals court handing the

3:00

former President Donald Trump at least a partial victory, just hours before a deadline

3:06

in which the former president was in the presumptive twenty twenty four nominee for the

3:10

GOP needed to post a four hundred and fifty four million dollar bond. And

3:19

now some people are calling this a surprise ruling. The judge slashed the bond

3:23

amount to a still staggering one hundred and seventy five million dollars and extended the

3:29

deadline for the former president to come up with the money and post the bond

3:32

by ten days from now. Now. The president, of course, not

3:37

of the former president, of course, not afraid to say something about this today. Here's a brief fontage of what he told reporters after learning that the

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bond was going to be reduced today. One hundred seventy five million dollars in

3:47

cash or bonds or security or whatever is necessary, very quickly within the ten

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days, and I think the pellate divisions were acting quickly. But George and

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Gord is a disgrace to this country and this should not be allowed to happen.

4:05

They decided to wait now, just during the election, so that I

4:10

won't be able to campaign, will be appealing to this. It's a shame

4:15

what's happening to our country. This is election interference. They are doing things

4:20

that have never been done in this country before. We've never had anything like

4:25

it, certainly not at this level, but we've really had nothing like it

4:29

that I've been able to find. It does happen a lot in third world

4:31

countries, banana republics. And he can't win because of the October seventh attack

4:36

of Israel, which he should have never allowed to happen. Would have never

4:41

happened if I were president. Yupraine would have never been attacked if I was

4:45

president. And you wouldn't have inflation. If I was president, we didn't

4:48

have inflation. So all of these things. So what they do is they

4:53

do election interference. November fifth, I believe, will be the most important

4:58

day in the history of our country. We'll get these people out of there,

5:01

and we'll seal up the borders, and we'll, as I say,

5:04

drill, baby, drill will be drilling. We'll get energy costs down.

5:08

We'll get rid of the ridiculous electric car mandate. So nobody's ever heard of

5:14

anything so foolish and so stupid. This is all weaponization of DOJ and FBI.

5:19

They raided my house in violation of a thing called the Fourth Amendment.

5:25

Not allowed to do that. They raided my house in Florida, mar Alago,

5:29

no notice, know nothing, they raided it. I can't believe it.

5:32

Nobody can believe it. And we'll see how that all works out in

5:35

the end. Former President Donald Trump speaking with the reporters, making a statement

5:41

and a little politics involved in that as well as he typically does. After

5:45

the learning today that the bond has been reduced from four hundred and fifty four

5:49

million down to one hundred and seventy five million, and it's still a staggering

5:54

amount. He also learned today that the trial against him, the criminal case

5:58

against him by Alvin brag the you know, Manhattan South District's attorney, will

6:03

begin, jury selection will begin, I believe it is on April fifteenth,

6:08

So the president got a little bit more information on that. It's hard to

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keep up with all these cases and court actions against the former president, but

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he now has ten days to come up with one hundred seventy five million dollars.

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Now, you know, it's pretty amazing. And you know, I

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don't think anybody really cares about this story in some regards, but what MSNBC

6:30

and NBC have done following an interview with Ronald McDaniel, the former head of

6:34

the RNC, is pretty amazing. I mean, the tantrum from both NBC

6:40

and MSNBC, the quote journalist there and pundits over the hiring of Ronald McDaniel

6:47

is a reminder to everyone, and I mean everyone that NBC is a safe

6:53

space for former Democratic Party operatives. And that's it. I mean, they

6:57

don't have conservatives on there. They show their leanings every time you turn around,

7:00

and they did again yesterday. Now here's what happened. She reportedly has

7:04

been hired as a contributor to NBC News, but in the attempt to cash

7:11

out, that has caused a lot of problems, especially for people like Chuck

7:15

Todd. Now, if you're an employee of a company and that company hires

7:19

a certain individual, do you feel safe enough to go on television and demand

7:27

that the company issue an apology to you and the other journalists there for the

7:31

hiring of Ronald McDaniel. That's basically what Chuck Todd did on Meet the Press

7:36

after she was interviewed yesterday. Here's what he had to say about his network

7:41

and the hiring of Ronald McDaniel. Let me do with the elephant in the

7:44

run. Yeah, I think our bosses owe you an apology for putting you

7:46

in this situation, because I don't know what to believe. She is now

7:49

a paid contributor by NBC News. Well, I have no idea whether any

7:54

answer she gave to you was because she didn't want to mess up her contract.

8:01

She wants us to believe that she was speaking for the r and C

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when the R and C was paying for it. So she has credibility issues

8:07

that she still has to deal with. Is she speaking for herself or is

8:11

she speaking on behalf of who's paying her. Once at the rn C,

8:15

she did say that, Hey, I'm speaking for the party. I get

8:18

that that's part of the job. So what about here? I will say

8:24

this, I think your interview did a good job of exposing I think many

8:28

of the contradictions. And look, there's a reason why there's a lot of

8:31

journalists at NBC who's uncomfortable with this, because many of our professional dealings with

8:35

the rn C over the last six years have been met with gas lighting.

8:39

Who on earth does Chuck Todd think he is? Is? He is he

8:46

God's gift to journalism in America today? I don't think so. But for

8:50

Chuck Todd to call out his own employers and to go after Ronald McDaniel and

8:54

I love this, she has no credibility. Well, let me tell you

8:58

what, Chuck, neither do you and neither does NBC anymore. With half

9:03

of the American people who voted for Donald Trump. You have one goal,

9:07

well, you have two goals. The first goal is to destroy Donald Trump

9:13

and the what seventy three million Americans who voted for him. That's your number

9:16

one goal. Your second goal is to support a feeble old man named Joe

9:22

Biden to be president of the United States for another four years. That's your

9:28

goal. And for you to sit there and say, what is her credibility,

9:31

Chuck, maybe you should answer your own credibility when it comes to what

9:37

happened. Now, one other thing, one other audio sound bite I want

9:39

to run before we need to break is you know I love it when conservatives

9:43

confront these legacy media people on their Sunday morning shows. It happened yesterday when

9:52

Marco Rubio was on with ABC on NBC News This Week with Jonathan Carl and

10:00

Karl raised questions about you know, his name is Dubon, floated around as

10:05

a vice presidential candidate and and you know, Marco Ruby's response to this was

10:11

absolutely fantastic. As a matter of fact, it left Jonathan Curl kind of

10:16

sputtering and stuttering as he laid out the successes of the Trump White House.

10:20

Let's now this went on ABC yesterday. Every single day we wake up to

10:24

a new crisis, to a new conflict. Everything has gone on fire since the time Joe Biden took over. Afghanistan has gone down, Ukraine has been

10:30

invaded. Now, the Philippines and the Chinese are on the verge of something

10:33

bad happening every single day. Not to mention the threats to Taiwan. We

10:37

have this blow up in Haiti going on in our very own hemisphere. We

10:39

wake up every single day, terrorist attacks people across the Ban' not suggesting that's

10:46

all happening because of Biden, absolutely, but absolutely I'm suggestically happening because of

10:50

Biden. He's president, and his weakness and his just because of Biden.

10:54

That did Russia invaded Ukraine. Absolutely because of Biden, that did Haiti?

10:58

Okay, absolutely, I mean Putin is sitting there saying, these guys can't

11:01

even stand up to the Taliban and they have to fly people hanging off the wings of these airplanes. Now's the time to go. I mean Trump's the

11:07

one saying that that suggesting that they should be a deal that effectively gives a

11:13

Putin what he wants in Ukraine. But can we take it that's not true.

11:16

What he has said is he wants the conflict to end, which is

11:18

striking to me that people why wouldn't people want peace? What I've said is

11:22

there is going to be negotiated, So Russia's not going to take all of

11:24

Ukraine, and Ukraine's not going to push Russia back to the where it was in twenty fourteen. I want Ukraine to have the upper hand in any negotiation.

11:31

I just gained a little more respect for Marco Rubio. I mean,

11:35

Jonathan girl, but but I mean he couldn't get a word in edgewise.

11:41

And I love Marco Rubio. He had his facts. He was on top

11:45

of Jonathan carl and that's whatever Republican needs to do. When they show up

11:50

on these legacy media shows, they're going to be attacked, be armed and

11:54

ready to respond. And that's exactly what Marco Rubio did yesterday. I absolutely

12:00

loved it. All Right, when we come back, what's going on with

12:03

the Republican National Committee? Are the changes the changes that have been made,

12:07

are they good for the party. We'll talk about it coming up next on

12:09

the Monday afternoon edition of the Rod ar kencho right here on Utah's Talk Radio

12:13

one. Oh five nine knrs all right, welcome back. It is the

12:26

rod Arkacho on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can Rats live everywhere

12:30

on the iHeartRadio app. You know, there were some significant changes taking place

12:35

with a Republican National Committee a couple of weeks ago, Ronald McDaniel out and

12:39

the chairman of that committee and the organization. She may be looking for work

12:46

as well because she is not being given a warm reception at NBC, who

12:50

has apparently hired her at A as a contributor. And then what about the

12:56

shape up with the RNC. Is it the right move to make for the

12:58

Republican Party head into a very important general or presidential election, I should say,

13:03

coming up in November, joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more

13:07

about that. As my next guest, his name is Kevin Gavin Wax.

13:11

He is a conservative actimist, columnist and commentator. Gavin, how are you

13:13

welcome to the Rod Racent Show. It's great to be on. Thank you

13:18

for having me and looking forward to the discussion. Gavin. Before we get

13:20

into the rn C shakeup, I've just got to get your reaction to what

13:24

has happened with Ronal McDaniel showing up on NBC and the whole network went blistic

13:28

on this is when. What do you make of that, Gavin, Well,

13:31

listen, I think it shows what a lot in the grassroots thought of

13:35

Ronal McDaniel, that she wasn't to be trusted, that she was out of

13:39

sync with the vast majority of the Republican Party, many Trump supporters, and

13:45

her views that she's now expressing to the liberal media wre views that she always

13:48

held, and now it's just out there in the open for the whole world

13:52

to say. So again, it tees up perfectly to why we need a

13:56

new leadership at the R and C for so long. Well, let's talk

13:58

about this chain the changes that have been taken or have taken place there.

14:05

Gavin, what do you is a good or bad for the party? What

14:07

do you think? Oh? Overall, I think it's fantastic. I think

14:11

there was a lot of bloats. There was a lot of bureaucracy, There was a lot of grifting and wasted salaries, and a lot of people that

14:16

really weren't doing much of anything. So I loved that the first few days

14:20

that the new leadership team coming in, Lara Trump Wade Lee, Las Devita,

14:24

et cetera. They started, you know, just you know, crossing

14:28

off names from the roster. I think, go of a lot of people

14:31

that probably didn't need to be there. But I think even more fundamentally than

14:33

some of these personnel changes, it's good to have the r and C be

14:39

run by Trumpers. It's very tied in with the Trump campaign. It's not

14:43

going to be you know this this, you know, lack of communication between

14:48

the campaign and the party apparatus. They're going to be instinct, they're going

14:52

to be working hand in hand. The presidential race is obviously top of the

14:54

ticket. All the races down ballot are going to be derivative of it and

15:00

the success that we get at the presidential level. So having the party in

15:03

the campaign be in lockstep with individuals, with staff, with messaging, with

15:07

strategy, it's going to be a massive benefit to our results in November.

15:13

And listen, I think having just Trump supporters, whether it's Laura Trump herself

15:18

or Las Savita, who's a campaign manager, You're having actual Trumpers running the

15:22

RNC for once. I think that's going to be a massive ideological shift to

15:26

get in line with the rest of the party, the party voters, the

15:30

grassroots, the party faithful. And I think these are all great changes,

15:33

and obviously a lot more is to come. And obviously you have Watley from

15:37

North Carolina. He's built out a machine there in North Carolina, a very

15:41

successful Republican Party state apparatus there. Then I'm hoping that he can take the

15:46

experience from North Carolina and apply it to the national level. Gavin, how

15:50

much friction or how much damage I should say, was done to the party

15:52

because of this friction within the party, the party apparatus between the establishment Republicans

15:58

who did not want to let go and the Trump people who wanted to move

16:02

on and move this party in a forward direction. How much friction? How

16:07

much damage did that friction set the party back? Do you think? Oh?

16:11

Massive? I don't know if I'm gonna be able to quantify it,

16:14

but I mean, if you look at, you know, all these different

16:17

primaries that we've seen over the years where the establishment was spending more money to

16:21

beat off primary challenges than they were to trying to win the general election thereafter,

16:26

you know, it was it was a matter of money, it was a matter of sabotage, it was you know people were at each other's throats.

16:32

I mean, the establishment cared less about growing the party, growing the

16:36

caucus, growing the number of seats we held, and they cared instead much

16:41

more about their control over a minority. And then to rephrase that they would

16:45

be much more content to have a minority party, whether in Congress or at

16:49

the state level, wherever it may be. But if they controlled that minority,

16:52

they would be much more happy rather than having a majority that they didn't

16:56

control. And that was we saw that kind of mentality play out time and

17:00

time again, where they were spiting all these candidates because they knew that these

17:03

were candidates that they would not be able to control they if they were to

17:07

get elected, that they would not vote for leadership the way that they would

17:11

have liked them to. And as a result, money was wasted and squandered

17:15

in primaries trying to prevent a more Maga America first Trump style candidate from emerging,

17:21

when that money would have been better spent in general elections making sure we

17:25

won more seats in the midterms. And I placed the blame of our lackluster

17:30

results in the midterms, even though I think it's been exaggerated to an extent,

17:34

but where the lackluster myth existed, it was a direct result of the

17:40

establishment wasting resources, squandering resources, not running candidates that are upholding the values

17:47

of President Trump and the America First movement, running candidates that are twenty years

17:51

out of date in terms of their rhetoric, in terms of their substance, in terms of their messaging, and because of that, they suffered. And

17:57

you see a lot of these candidates and districts that Trump won and districts we

18:00

should be winning. They fail to get out the low propensity Trump voters,

18:04

these Trump voters that just did not care for the Republican parties, certainly not

18:08

the Republican Party establishment. And if you're running candidates that don't appeal to those

18:12

voters, you're of course going to lose those seats where they exist in large

18:15

numbers. And I think that was a story that played out across the country,

18:18

and I think it goes to what you're bringing up in terms of the

18:21

friction. I think the friction caused a lot of damage politically and electorally.

18:26

It's still very hard to quantify, but let's just say it with a lot. What do you hope Gavin? Final question for what do you hope the

18:30

new leadership does with the issues of the election coming up in November, when

18:34

it comes to early voting and absentee balloting, are they are they ready to

18:38

challenge this and take this on because up to this point the Democrats have owned

18:42

that. Are we ready to take it back? Listen? I think they're

18:47

coming in with some new energy and new new thinking on this matter. I

18:51

think when in where it's legal, obviously it's a state by state issue,

18:55

but when in where early voting is legal, that Republicans need to take full

18:59

advantage of it. Because if only one side takes advantage of early voting,

19:02

of course they're going to have an advantage because they have, you know, let's say, up to thirty days now to get votes of those low propensity

19:07

voters on the Democrat side. Meanwhile, if we refuse to do the same

19:11

thing, we only have one day election day to make up with the Democrats.

19:15

We're doing for thirty days. So it's a simple equation there that if

19:19

where these things are legal, you know, we need to take advantage of

19:23

them, and we need to use them. And I'm not saying we're going

19:26

to necessarily outdo the Democrats at their own game. But if at least we

19:30

try, we close the gap. And a lot of these marginal races where

19:33

things are really you know, on the margins in terms of a winner loss,

19:37

they could be tipped in our favor. That's politics. It's all about winning on the margins. And we need to use every strategy we can because

19:41

if the Democrats, you know, if we're going into a fight and the

19:45

Democrats are bringing a gun and we're bringing a knife, of course the Democrats

19:48

are going to beat us. That's not the kind of gunfight you want to

19:51

walk into. And I think time and time and the Republicans have been caught

19:55

on the back foot here because we seed ground to the Dems. And listen,

19:59

I'm not saying that these rules or these provisions are ideal, but we

20:03

need to get power first, need to win majorities and you could get into

20:06

government and then we can change the rules so then we can't let them beat

20:11

us at their own game. Yeah, we got to play the game as well, Gavin, great conversation, Thanks for joining us tonight, and I

20:15

hope to have you back on the show again. Thanks Kevin, Thanks,

20:18

thank you anytime. All right on our newsmaker line. That's Kevin Wax.

20:22

He is a columnist at The Daily Caller, also a author, a commentator,

20:26

and a conservative activist, talking about the changes at the RNC. All

20:30

right, when we come back, do you think Mexico really cares about illegal

20:34

immigration into this country? We'll answer that question for you coming up next here

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All right, an amazing report. And I'm not well, I know

22:12

why. I think we all understand that the treatment of kids who think their

22:18

body is different from who they actually are. You know, it's big business

22:23

here in the United States of America, and nobody is willing to step up

22:27

and say this is wrong. Well, I don't want to say nobody.

22:30

There are a lot of people out there, but the establishment, the medical

22:33

establishment. As a matter of fact, it's saying this is okay to do.

22:37

But there is a report out now from France and the report basically says

22:41

that the practice of sexually transitioning children will be remembered. Are you ready for

22:45

this? This is the words in the report today. The greatest ethical scandal

22:52

in the history of medicine. The greatest ethical scandal in the history of medicine.

23:00

That's coming from a French report. The report, produced at the behalt

23:04

of the Center Rate late Republicans in the French Senate found that the medical industry

23:11

has embarked upon the practice of giving children life altering transgender treatments with little evidence

23:21

of its effectiveness, while ignoring the side effects. Don't you wish people in

23:26

America would pay attention to this? The report found that while parents were often

23:32

pressured by doctors to put their children on puberty blocking drugs to prevent suicide,

23:37

there is little or no proof that this course of action has any beneficial outcomes

23:45

for the child. The head of the plastic surgery department at one of the

23:49

hospitals there in Paris told the reporters that there was no evidence that sex changes

23:55

for children improve their quality of life because they're obviously no randomized trials. So

24:03

in France, and we often make fun of France and French, hey I'm

24:07

French, who make fun of them basically coming down and saying the practice of

24:11

transitioning children through either hormonal therapy or sex change operations will be remembered as one

24:18

of the greatest ethical scandals in the history of medicine. What a report that

24:23

is. I wish more and more people would pay attention to what they're saying

24:27

in France, because I think they are spot on with this one. Oh

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by the way, there's another report speaking of you know humans, so to

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speak. Middle age is a tipping point for the brain and can offer clues

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about the risk of cognitive decline in invention. Apparently, a new study says

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the decades between forty and sixty years old could be a key time for early

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prevention and provide knowledge to prevent disease. So middle age between forty and sixty

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indications are that there could be some strong eviden it's strong information given to the

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medical community to help them deal with dementia and cognitive decline. This new report

25:07

out today as well, talking about the hidden perils of middle age and the

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possibilities on the ag brain and think of that ages between forty and sixty.

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has done. Every night you can catch that at and following. You know,

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we wrap up at seven, so it's available almost immediately for you to

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give it a listen to, just in case you may have missed anything.

26:11

Now, I want to talk more about the media today and its response to

26:18

the announcement by an appeals Cord that it was reducing the amount of bond that

26:22

Donald Trump would have to post in that fraud trial case, which is just

26:26

a joke to begin with, the media, the liberal media today is going

26:32

absolutely crazy on this today and you know, I'm going to talk a little

26:36

bit about that and get your reaction to it, because the message from the

26:40

media, are you ready to laugh? You know, if you're driving,

26:42

you know, be careful. The media thinks that Donald Trump is being given

26:47

special treatment. I'm not kidding you. The media in this country today,

26:55

on the left, the legacy media is believing today that Donald Trump is being

27:00

given special treatment. And I want to ask you if you think he's being

27:03

given special treatment. I mean, they took the bond down from four hundred

27:07

and fifty four million dollars down to one hundred and seventy five million dollars.

27:11

That is not chump change. When he was asked about it today, you

27:17

just kind of laugh at this guy. Sometimes someone said, how are you going to post the bond, mister president. You could hear somebody shouting then,

27:22

and if you listen real carefully, he just turns to whoever asked a

27:26

question the gathering of the reporters who were recording the news conference, and he

27:32

just smiled and said, cash, it's just it's a great response. But

27:36

before we get to that, a couple thing, well, I've got to

27:40

share with it. You know, they the medium loves to hate Donald Trump,

27:45

you know, their whole base. I mean, what happened over the

27:48

weekend with Ronald McDaniel, the former head of the RNC, appearing on Meet

27:55

the Press, comparently has been hired by NBC to be a contributor there,

28:00

and the members of the so called journalists at NBC who claim they have credibility

28:10

at NBC are questioning their own network for hiring Ronal McDaniel because they claim she

28:15

has no credibility, but they have all the credibility in the world. Did

28:22

somebody at ms NBC and NBC forget to tell them that Jen Pasaki, who

28:33

was a former White House Press secretary for Joe Biden, was hired at NBC

28:41

and given a one hour show every night. Now, wait a minute,

28:47

So they bring on Ronal McDaniel, who to be a contributor at NBC and

28:55

MSNBC and their critical lover because she is she has no credibility, But apparently

29:03

Jen Psaki, who for what two years told lie after lie about the Biden

29:10

administration, that she has credibility. You gotta love that, don't you.

29:15

I mean, think about that a little bit. Here's who gets hired in

29:18

legacy media. Anybody who is against Donald Trump. If there's anybody hired,

29:26

well, those downtworks. Let me just say this, they do not hire

29:30

anybody who likes Donald Trump and supports Donald Trump. They just don't do it.

29:37

But they'll hire anybody who hates Donald Trump, even from the Republican Party.

29:44

And you always had to question if Ronald McDaniel was really a supporter of

29:47

Donald Trump to begin with. But they would hire someone like her, and

29:52

they're still upset at it. It's pretty amazing to me. Now, one

29:56

other thing, and then we're I've got a couple of questions on this today.

30:00

Then we'll get to your phone calls. We've had another Kamala Harris humiliation.

30:07

You know, it's always best. It's good advice that when you don't

30:11

understand the language, don't go along with it. You don't kindact. What

30:15

are you saying here, Well, it's a simple rule that Vice President Harris

30:21

did not follow. She was on a trip to Puerto Rico last week.

30:23

She was there to promote the Biden administration's aid plan to the island following Hurricane

30:29

Maria. Well, let's say the reception of Harris's visit was not met with

30:33

universal praise. As a matter of fact, a man started singing a protest

30:38

song in Spanish came within an earshot of the Vice President, who apparently didn't

30:44

know the words, didn't know what the song was all about, and instead

30:48

of not doing anything, she started clapping and going along and that silly smile

30:52

and laugh that she has until an aid came up to tell her what the

30:57

lyrics meant. And apparently the vice president oops and stop clapping. It's just

31:07

a couple of heroes. As a treat, she is a real, real

31:10

treat, all right. Now, here's why I want to talk to you about concerning what happened today with Donald Trump. The medium they were so excited

31:18

about today, excited about what may be happening today. I mean even as

31:23

one of the networks that may have been a CNN. I think today you

31:27

rented some very expensive lawn chairs and they were doing the show from outside the

31:33

courtroom, thinking that Donald Trump could not meet that bond of four hundred and

31:40

fifty four million dollars, and Letitia James, the Attorney General, would walk

31:45

over to Trump Towers and put a big old chain in padlock on the building.

31:48

They were just waiting for it. They went that far to believe that

31:53

something serious would happen to Donald Trump today, Well, it didn't happen,

32:00

because what has happened, as a matter of fact, is that the bond

32:04

has been reduced. It's still an unbelievable amount of money. One hundred and

32:07

seventy five million dollars is nothing to shout at. But it was a I

32:14

guess you could have called it a partial victory today. But everybody on the

32:17

left and the media on the left today, and I've seen some of the

32:21

highlights that have been shown today or heard him today, the media is saying,

32:24

well, the fix is in. You know, everything goes Donald Trump's

32:29

way. You know, he just you know, he has influence. I

32:32

mean, there was one said I wouldn't have a right to walk into a

32:36

courtroom and say, all post a seventy five million dollar bond. I don't

32:39

have that right, but Donald Trump does. Others are out there today saying,

32:45

Donald Trump, he's being given special treatment. He's being given special treatment

32:50

by the courts today. Are you laughing yet, Because if there is anybody

32:55

who has not been given special treatment in the judicial system that we have today,

33:01

it is one Donald Trump. Donald Trump has a trial coming up on

33:06

April fifteenth by Elvin Bragg. The DA of Southern Manhattan. He's still got

33:12

this bond issue to deal with. He's got the case in Washington, the

33:15

case of mar A Lago, the case in Georgia, and Donald Trump is

33:20

being given special treatment. According to the media today, that's exactly what is

33:25

taking place, because he was able to convince you know, there may actually

33:30

be hold onto your hats on this one, folks. A little common sense

33:36

today injected into this whold story about that bond against Donald Trump and the fraud

33:43

trial. There may be a little common sense because an appellate court judge looked

33:49

at that and said, wait a minute, four hundred and fifty four million

33:52

dollars, isn't that just a little a little excessive? So we're going to

34:01

take it down to one hundred and seventy five million dollars. Still a lot

34:06

of money, Still a lot of money, but four hundred and fifty four

34:13

million. Answerth you know the purpose all of all of this, and I think all of you know that. You know what it is. The Left

34:20

they're hoping, they're just hoping, like you wouldn't believe that one of these

34:28

trials will lead to a Donald Trump conviction. Before the election in November and

34:35

because this is going to be a razor thin election. That's what most of

34:39

the people are predicting now that those fensitters on Trump, who may be leaning

34:45

toward Donald Trump and not for Joe Biden, if Donald Trump is convicted of

34:52

anything before the election, that will change them and they'll say, well,

34:58

the guys could convicted felon and we can't vote for him. That's what the

35:04

Democratic Party has everything, they're banking on everything. They've got their chips all

35:12

on one, one lot right now, and that is that Donald Trump will

35:17

be convicted of something before the election, and if he is, he will

35:23

not win reelection. So I want to ask you that question tonight. Let's

35:29

say in fact that does happen, and the likelihood is there not sure?

35:34

How strong you know? This trial coming up on April fifteenth with Bragg maybe

35:39

the only one to take place before the election. But if in fact Donald

35:45

Trump is convicted of anything out there, because that's what they're hoping for,

35:51

are you going to vote for him? Still? Eight eight eight five seven

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six o'clock cawer. Right now, we're talking about the left and their determination

36:43

to convict Donald Trump almost anything they can before the election, thinking that this

36:49

will change voter's minds. Those on the middle, the independents who maybe voted

36:53

for Trump in the past or didn't vote him in the past, but are

36:57

planning to do so now. But these are these are people the Democrats want

37:00

to convince that if Donald Trump is convicted of anything, that they shouldn't vote

37:06

for him. My question to you is, will you eight eight eight five

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seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty

37:13

and say, hey, Rod, let's go to the phones here on the

37:15

rod or catch how we begin tonight in Saratoga Springs with Evan. Evan,

37:19

how are you welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us. Hey,

37:22

thanks, Rod, how are you? I'm well? Thank you. What

37:24

are your thoughts on this? Evan? Well, Rod, I once was

37:30

a never Trumper, but just due to the unfair way that he has been

37:36

treated and some other things that have been going down the drain here in the

37:39

country, I feel like I have no option but to seriously entertain the idea

37:45

of voting for him. Evan, why were you a never Trumper to begin

37:49

with? What was it about about him that puts you off? Was it

37:52

as policies, as personalities? What was it? Yeah? I think it's

37:58

it's probably a very similar the reason as to most, you know, most

38:02

who are hesitant to pull the lever for Trump in our area, it was

38:07

character issues. And I still have some questions about his character a bit,

38:09

but I don't have any questions about his governing or his policies. And I

38:15

think that's been made very clear. And what's also been made clear is just

38:19

how the Left is seeking to destroy him just through these ludicrous cases, these

38:24

proceedings that have no precedent, these charges that have you know, never been

38:29

brought up in these circumstances, and you go back to the Russia Gate during his presidency and everything else. You know, American civilization is under attack,

38:39

is what the Democrats say, but it's from their side, not from Trump.

38:43

Yeah, yeah, that's for sure, Evan. I want to ask

38:45

you real quick before I let you go and get to other colors. If

38:47

he's convicted of something, will you still vote for him? It's all just

38:53

a clown show for the most part, so I'd have to take a deep

38:59

look at at it. But at this point I don't. I think it's

39:02

pretty black and white for me. I think, you know, I trust

39:06

he's going to choose a good VP candidate if he chose someone that I also

39:09

had questions about, which based on what I'm hearing, I don't see any

39:14

any issues there. So it's likely I'll pull the lever for Trump. You

39:16

know. If something happened that really convinced me, I might pull it for

39:20

RSK, But so far I'm probably leaning Trump. Doesn't sound like you'd ever

39:24

pulled it a pull up for Joe Biden, Is that right, Evan?

39:29

Not? Now? No? No? Never? All right, all right, Evans, thank you? Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one Zerold

39:34

trumple eight five seven O eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial Pound

39:37

two fifteen and say, hey, Rod, what we're asking you tonight as

39:42

you work your way home on this Monday evening, is that there is no

39:45

doubt what the left is trying to do in this country is convinced enough voters

39:50

not to vote for Donald Trump if in fact he is convicted of a crime.

39:58

And that's I think that they can't vote. They can't run on Joe

40:04

Biden's energy, his age issue is a big one with a lot of American

40:07

voters. They can't run on Joe biden is handling of the border, his

40:15

foreign policy, his handling of the economy, even though Joe Biden and the

40:19

Democrats are trying to convince all of us that the economy is doing much better.

40:23

So what they're trying to do is keep Donald Trump off the ballot as

40:28

much as they can, and they failed so far in every regard there.

40:30

And they're also trying to convince them to convince the American people don't vote for

40:35

this guy because this guy could be convicted of a crime, and do you

40:42

want somebody like that in the White House. I think most Trump voters don't

40:45

care. Maybe there are a few out there that do care. But I

40:50

think many of the Trump voters out there today realize what this is, and

40:53

this is all a setup on the part of the left to keep Donald Trump

40:58

out of the White House. They hate this guy so much. I am

41:01

you know, I don't. I try not to hate people. I may

41:06

not agree with them, I may not like what they do, but personally

41:09

I try not to hate them. It's hard to do with the Democrats anymore.

41:15

But their hate of Donald Trump and anybody who supports him is amazing to

41:20

me, Absolutely amazing to me. All right eight eight eight five seven oh

41:23

eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen and

41:25

say, hey, Rod, let's go back to the phones here on the

41:29

rod Ar Cat Show and let's talk with Delane in Bountiful tonight. Delayane,

41:34

how are you welcome back to the show? Hi, Rod, wonderful.

41:37

How are you doing. I'm doing very well. What do you think about

41:40

is that what the left is trying to do is to get Donald Trump convicted

41:45

of something so voters will think twice about electing him. They are throwing everything

41:52

on the wall. I'm just trying to see if anything sticks, and you

41:55

know, so far. I mean, the thing is, they don't have

41:58

any evidence. They just keep trying to make these accusations. And I understand

42:04

where people are coming from your previous color, where he is saying, I

42:07

really have a hard time voting for someone that is immoral to be our president.

42:12

And as a constitutionalist myself, the founding father says you need to vote

42:15

for moral, righteous leaders to be your leaders. And I respect that,

42:20

and I respect how people feel because I felt the same way. But I

42:22

did want to ask this question. If King David or Prophet David were running

42:30

for the president, would you vote for him or would you say I can't vote for him because he's been immoral in the past. Yeah, good question.

42:36

And I want to say, do we continue to judge someone by the

42:40

acts of fifteen to twenty years ago, or do we believe in redemption?

42:45

Do we say, you know what, I'm more interested in what he's done

42:47

in the last five ten years. I mean, I think if there was

42:52

any evidence of him having an affair in the last ten years, I think there's absolutely we would know about it. You look at his children, they're

42:59

very uplished, they're very you know, they're really quite amazing to me.

43:02

And so I just think, you know, there are other ways to be

43:07

immoral besides sexually, and I think the current administration has been immoral in so

43:14

many ways. Those are just my thoughts. I should they maybe we should

43:19

have go ahead. Yeah, no, I'm so sorry, Roight. I'm

43:24

just like, maybe we could be a little bit more forgiving and maybe maybe

43:29

I don't want to be judged by the worst thing I ever did in my life. I'd rather be judged by I hope people will judge me more by

43:35

what I've done lately. Yeah, a good point. Good point to Lane.

43:38

You're absolutely right. They just you know, they want those of you

43:43

who wrestle with Donald Trump. I think Delane made a very good point.

43:45

You know, we all there are people who struggle with this. I mean, how many people struggle with Bill Clinton after what he did in the White

43:52

House with Monica Lewinsky. And you know, but we have to understand,

43:55

right, you know, this is the approach that I've taken. You know,

43:59

none of us are perfect. We are going to make mistakes. Donald

44:01

Trump certainly has made mistakes in his life, and you can't tell me that

44:07

those Democrats out there have never made a mistake in their lives. You know,

44:10

they're all perfect, or they tend to think they are. But they

44:14

can't seem to get over the fact that people change. They don't like his

44:17

policies. They just don't like. I don't know. Maybe it's his mannerisms,

44:22

you know, maybe it's the way he speaks. I'm not sure what

44:25

it is that they don't like, but they have a hate for him,

44:28

and that's why they think a conviction of Donald Trump on any of these cases

44:34

right now will lead people not to vote for him. I think they're wrong

44:37

there, and I want to see if you agree with me, because I

44:40

think people know what's going on here. This is an effort on the part

44:45

of the left to use this judicial system in this country, which we all

44:50

used to admire. I don't know if we admire it anymore, but to

44:53

use the judicial system to either keep them out off the ballot, or in

44:59

fact, to have him convicted of something eight eight eight five seven eight zero

45:05

one zero, triple eight five seven eight zero one zero, or on your

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cell phone, just dile pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod Mary,

45:10

your calls and comments coming up here on The rod ar Cat Show one

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The rod Arcats Show on Talk Radio one five nine the knrs. All right,

45:35

welcome back to the rod Arket Show. If you're just joining us tonight.

45:38

There is no doubt that the left is trying to do whatever it can

45:43

do to convict Donald Trump of some sort of crime, maybe as uh as

45:51

minuscule is forgetting to put out his trash. I doubt if the former president

45:54

does that, but to convict him of something just so they can say,

46:00

you know, maybe keep him off the ballot, maybe turn voters against him.

46:04

You know, there has if you think about this, so I want

46:06

to get your reaction to that. You know, if you're a Trump supporter,

46:10

will anything change your mind? Even if he is convicted of something a

46:15

crime in one of these trumped up criminal cases against him, will it change

46:21

your mind? Because I don't think it will. I think most people understand what's going on here, but there may be a few of you out there

46:27

who say, you know, if I may change you know, there's always

46:30

been a solid corps I think of Trump voters, whom for whom every legal

46:38

arrow that has fired his way is an additional incentive to support him against overzealous

46:45

opponents. But for Joe Biden to prevail in November, there has to be

46:53

a significant number of voters for whom the alleged wrongs and the doubts they raise

47:00

about mister Trump's suitability for office will eventually I think, supersede whatever reasons they

47:08

have for not voting for the Republican nominee. But here's the bleak news for

47:14

the Democrats, and I don't think they're willing to accept this as of yet.

47:19

The bleak news is this. The polling evidence seems to suggest that the

47:25

answer is, in fact, both different sets of voters are ready to vote

47:31

for the Republican in spite and because of his legal challenges. And I think

47:38

the aggressive efforts by prosecutors to confiscate his money and send him to prison are

47:47

only bolstering his standing with and improving likely turnout among Republicans. I mean,

47:57

I think people are going to be this is wrong. This is not America,

48:01

I you know, And I wouldn't call myself a history buff, but

48:07

I know enough about history that I don't recall a time in American history when

48:14

the judicial system is being used by those in power to go after their opponents.

48:22

I you know, we've had ugly There have been ugly campaigns in this

48:25

country. This isn't the first one that's ugly. You know. You can

48:30

go back to the days of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams in the early years

48:35

of this great country in which we live in, and they got they got

48:38

downrayed, nasty and this is nasty as well. But I've never seen a

48:45

time in our history when those on the left are so desperate that they will

48:52

use whatever means they can to destroy their political opponent. Eight eight eight five

49:00

seven eight zero one zero or on your cell phone, dal Pound two to

49:04

fifteen, say hey, Rod, back to the phones. We go last

49:07

UK with Ken in West Jordan tonight here on the Rod ARCUTCHU Ken, how

49:09

are you? Thanks for joining us? Great? Thank you. Hey.

49:14

If if Lady Justice were truly blindfolded, wouldn't Joe Biden be in court with

49:19

Donald Trump? Also? Oh yeah, oh yeah, you sure would be

49:23

money laundering, money laundering, illegal bribes. And then the other point I

49:30

want to make is why do the Republicans always bow down to the Democrats.

49:38

They're like the little nerdy guy that wants to date the high school girl and

49:44

they finally get a date, and she treats him like crap, and they just keep going back and going back. Why don't the Republicans shut down the

49:50

government we have control, shut down the government. Stop pandering to the Democrats.

49:57

Every time we try to negotiate with him, they just pound us back,

50:01

and little Republicans back there just bow down and say yes sir, yes,

50:06

sir, And the Democrats control it even though we have majority. Doesn't

50:10

that frustrate you? Can? I mean, it's almost like we don't have

50:13

a spine. You know they're going to come after us. We know they're

50:16

going to come after us, Ken, So why don't we stand up to

50:19

him? I'm with you on that one. I get so sick and tired

50:22

of those back in Washington who are so afraid to stand up to the Democrat

50:27

and their wishes. I can't stay. He drives me. No. Sometimes,

50:30

sometimes when you're being bullied all the time, the best thing you can

50:34

do is punch the bully right in the nose. You might get beat up,

50:37

but he'll never bully you again. Yeah, that's for sure, all

50:40

right, Ken, You're absolutely right there. You know, stand up to

50:45

this. But he's right on, you know, what you know, this

50:49

been mentioned before that a there's some prosecutor out there in this land who would

50:57

do like the democratically, the Democrat prosecutors and go after Donald Trump for a

51:04

number of reasons. Why don't we see a Republican prosecutor go after Joe Biden

51:12

on a number of issues because they're certainly out there, no disagreement among that,

51:16

they're certainly out there. So why are the Democrats willing to go after

51:21

a former president when a Republican prosecutor isn't willing to go after a Democratic president

51:29

the way they have? Some people have raised that question before, you know,

51:32

And it's funny this this law fair against mister Trump seems to be strengthening.

51:39

I think the Republican termination determination to back him. I mean, you

51:45

just want to say, I don't I don't want to vote for that guy,

51:50

that old decrepit fool who claims to be president of the United States.

51:55

You know, And there are questions, I think, you know, was

52:00

you'll Biden elected fairly? No? Was he elected yes? You know,

52:06

and there's some there's a lot of issues out there about the vote in twenty

52:08

twenty, and you know, to raise questions about this, You're you're constantly

52:14

attacked, and there's really you know, if you don't be afraid to say,

52:20

you know, okay, he was elected, Okay, the numbers were

52:22

in, but there's no reason for you not to say, there are a

52:28

lot of wishy washy stuff going on, and therefore, you know, I

52:34

don't believe that he was elected in the right way because I think, you

52:38

know, for a guy like him to get eighty three million votes, really,

52:43

folks, and it goes back to the left now so afraid about Donald

52:49

Trump. Don't you love the fear that the guy instills inside the Beltway?

52:52

I really do. I just love it because we all know the government is

52:58

out of control. It spends way too much money, it's too big,

53:04

and it constantly wants to interfere in our lives. You know, when you

53:09

think about this, as Joe Biden's approval numbers continue to flirt with historic lows,

53:15

and even I think Time Magazine said, Joe, it's getting a little

53:21

too late for you to do anything. And the clock continues to click down

53:27

toward the election day, and a wave after wave of civil and criminal proceedings

53:32

wash over the Trump campaign. Mister Biden and his campaign. They still believe

53:42

that presenting Donald Trump as an enemy of democracy is their root to victory.

53:49

You have got to be kidding me, but that's how they feel, and

53:52

you're going to hear it. Their slogan is going to be this whole threatn

53:54

to democracy and nobody has ever explained to me what that means. All right,

54:06

Mary, your calls and comments coming up here on the rod Ar Kent Show, Go rod our Ken Show on talk radio Want oh five nine k

54:25

nrs live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Make sure you download it today if

54:30

you're just joining us, we're talking about Donald Trump. Of course, the

54:35

bond was reduced today from four hundred and fifty four million to one hundred seventy

54:38

five million dollars. The former president has what ten eleven days to come up

54:44

with the money. He says he can do that. When asked about it,

54:47

he said, I'll pay it in cash. Wouldn't that be interesting to

54:52

see? But the former president got a break today. He didn't get a

54:57

break from Alvin Bragg. He will go on on a trial. The jury

55:00

selection will begin, I believe April fifteenth, in the one of the many

55:05

trials against former President Donald Trump. So that was a bit of the bad

55:08

news. You know, we're taking your calls right now at eighty eight eight

55:13

five seven eight zero one zero or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen,

55:15

say hey Rod. And the question is, you know, there's no

55:20

doubt that the Democrats who just hate Donald Trump is they're a stronger word than

55:24

hate, loath, But just you know, anything dealing with Trump they cannot

55:30

stomach. And they have launched warfare or lawfair I should say, could call

55:36

it warfare against a former president, hoping that if they get a conviction,

55:40

either in New York and Florida and Washington and Georgia somewhere, that the American

55:45

people will not vote for him. Now, a poll last week, this

55:49

is in Politico, found that if mister Trump we're convicted in mister Bragg's criminal

55:54

trial due to start next month, almost four times as many were Republicans said

56:00

that would make them more likely to support him than less likely. Okay,

56:07

so for the Republican base, they are going to come out and support Donald

56:10

Trump. But the question is what about independent voters? And that's what I

56:15

think Joe Biden is counting on. There's certainly evidence I think if you look

56:21

at the polls in this same poll that they don't see mister Trump as the

56:25

innocent victim as he and his supporters claim. Matter of fact, that same

56:31

poll that I mentioned a second ago found four times as many independents said a

56:39

conviction would make them less likely then more likely to vote for Donald Trump.

56:45

But there's plenty of reason to think that their doubts about the Republican pale when

56:51

they're asked about their other concerns about the country. Listen to these numbers.

56:58

The poll showed Donald Trump leading mister Biden forty three to twenty seven percent among

57:04

independent voters when it comes to key issues. An economist you goub survey indicated

57:10

that only twelve percent of independence think the country is on the right track.

57:16

Only twelve percent twenty three percent approve of the job mister Biden is doing,

57:24

but sixty four percent disagree with Biden on immigration, on inflation, on jobs

57:30

in the economy. So if you're an independent voter, you've got questions right

57:35

about this. Okay, the guy's convicted, Do I not vote for him

57:38

because I want to vote for this other guy who's taking the country in the

57:42

wrong direction? Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on your cell

57:45

phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod, back to the phones

57:50

we go. Let's talk with Barbara Barbara in Clearfield tonight. Hi, Barbara,

57:52

how are you? I'm great? Thank you your thoughts on this?

58:00

Barbara? Oh, I feel like, well we've been talked king about with

58:06

people still vote for Donald Trump even if he gets convicted to some of the

58:14

things he's been charged with, And I think they will because the charges just

58:22

seem to be something that's fabricated by the Democrats. And you think people will

58:29

realize that and vote for Donald Trump. Is that what you're saying, Barbara? Yes, I do, Okay, all right. I think people know

58:37

that. I think people know that it's so oddious. Yeah, it is

58:43

pretty obvious. And I think I think, and you know, I say

58:49

this all the time, the common sense, fair minded Americans look at what

58:52

is going on with Donald Trump and they simply say, this is not fair.

58:57

You know, let's wait till we get to the the voting booth.

59:00

Let us decide what is going on with the future of this country. And

59:06

while the independence is I pointed out in this poll a moment ago, you

59:09

know, are are concerned about a conviction of Donald Trump. They're concerns about

59:15

mister Biden and his administration are as strong as anything. They do not agree

59:22

with him. They think he has failed when it comes to inflation. They

59:27

think he has failed when it comes to if this country is on the right

59:30

track, the right track, twelve percent. That's a low number, mister

59:38

Biden. They disagree with him on immigration, They disapprove of his performance.

59:45

Sixty six percent say they disapprove of his performance on immigration, sixty four percent

59:52

disapprove of his performance on jobs, sixty four percent on inflation, fifty seven

1:00:00

percent on crime. Those areas where they disagree with him, and they don't

1:00:06

think Joe Biden is doing a good job. So I think for the Independence,

1:00:08

if you're an independent and you're sitting on the fence right now, he

1:00:13

got some serious thinking to do, because you're going to have to decide,

1:00:16

I think, come November fifth, who you want to lead this country,

1:00:22

someone who you think has taken it in the wrong direction, who you disagree

1:00:27

with when it comes to key issues like inflation, immigration, jobs, the

1:00:31

economy, crime. You're going to vote for somebody like that, even though

1:00:36

you disagree his policies Over someone where we didn't have these issues when he was

1:00:43

president of the United States to the extent we do now. We still had

1:00:45

the issues, but not to the extent we do now. And he's convicted

1:00:52

of a you know, charges against him, trumped up charges. Pardon the

1:00:59

po but trumped up charges. I mean, that's what he's going to come

1:01:04

down to. Now. The Biden administration is going to say he's a threat

1:01:08

to democracy. I guess so tired of hearing that. I think many of

1:01:13

you do as well, because the system. What people forget, despite what

1:01:19

happened on January sixth, and it was awful, should never have taken place.

1:01:24

It wasn't an insurrection. I think it was a protest that became a

1:01:28

riot, you know. But what people forget is our system worked that we

1:01:37

did confirm the election of Joe Biden despite all of this, Our checks and

1:01:40

balances, the system that we have in this country today actually did work.

1:01:46

Now there may be some of you who say we wish it wouldn't have,

1:01:50

but it did in fact work, And that's what you have to think about.

1:01:55

All right, Mark, coming up on the Rod Arcut Show, we'll

1:01:59

talk about Americans are do you feel free today? About your rights and common

1:02:07

sense. We'll talk about it next third hour. They're on our catch up

1:02:24

with you on this on Monday, Monday afternoons, Monday evening. I guess

1:02:28

now after six o'clock. Right to be with you as you work your way

1:02:31

home here on U saw the Stark Radio one all five nine panarets live everywhere.

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By the way, on the iHeartRadio app. Make sure you downloaded today.

1:02:40

I just saw a repeat, you know, Fox News on the Monday

1:02:45

in the station and here in the studio. I should say, and I

1:02:49

love that last question that was posed to a former president Donald Trump as he

1:02:52

was leaving the courthouse today. Some reported shout it out, mister Trump,

1:02:58

how are you going to pay for the one hundred and seventy five million dollars

1:03:00

bond that is due ten days from now. He turned back and kind of

1:03:05

with a sheep is grin on his face, he said, gosh, I

1:03:08

mean, I just I love it sometimes when people do things like that.

1:03:13

All right, You know, on this show we talk a lot about this.

1:03:16

We talk about common sense, we talk about fair mindedness, and I

1:03:22

think a lot of the problems that we have in this country today could be

1:03:28

solved by people just using their common sense and being fair minded, because I

1:03:32

think that's what America is really all about. But are we even free to

1:03:37

do that anymore? Joining us on our news maker line to talk about that

1:03:42

is Philip K. Howard. Philip is an author and activist a lawyer as

1:03:45

well. He wrote a terrific article about our Americans free to do what's right

1:03:49

and sensible and he's on our news maker line right now. Philip, how

1:03:52

are you welcome to the rod arqutchup. Thanks for joining us, Philip. Nice to be with you, Ron, Philip. Are we free to do

1:04:00

us right and to do what's sensible anymore? No. I have this new

1:04:05

book called Everyday Freedom, which I argue that two of the worst things in

1:04:12

modern society, which is inept government and broad populist resentment, flow directly from

1:04:20

the disempowerment of people in their daily choices. You know, teachers can't run

1:04:27

a classroom. Doctors and nurses spend half to day filling out forms that nobody

1:04:32

ever reachs. You know, people aren't allowed to make a joke in the

1:04:38

workplace. You know, it's just it's just accumulating year by year, and

1:04:44

we're being squeezed and squeezed further with you know, is your paperwork in order?

1:04:50

Don't be yourself? You know, are you offending somebody? It's just

1:04:55

it's terrible and it's making people burst out. Is powerlessness a feature of modern

1:05:00

America today? Do you feel? Yes, it's actually quite a clear structural

1:05:10

problem, which is that we tried to replace bad choices with law, and

1:05:18

we've increasingly done that over the last fifty years, since the nineteen sixties.

1:05:24

So there are a thousand page rule books people have to go through the day.

1:05:28

They're procedures to prove that a teacher is no good and it's impossible to

1:05:34

prove, you know, who doesn't work hard, who has bad judgment,

1:05:38

who forced the students, whatever it is, And so the result is students

1:05:43

are stuck in classroom terrible teachers. And then the worst thing is that there's

1:05:48

this modern mutated idea of individual rights. Instead of being a protection against coercion

1:05:58

by the state. You know, you can't make our property away without due

1:06:00

process or whatever. There's new idea of rights give state power to any angry

1:06:08

person to avoid anything they don't want. You can't fire me, that's a

1:06:15

violation of my rights, but you're not doing your job, so you know,

1:06:19

so you have this kind of crazy world where people get it in their

1:06:25

head that their rights are violated, and as a result, the institutions of

1:06:30

society can no longer work effectively, you know, schools and workplaces, and

1:06:38

it is incredibly demoralizing to work in an institution where you no longer think people

1:06:45

are upholding the values and standards of the institution. But that's what this modern

1:06:51

legal system is done, is disempowered managers, with the result that disempowers everyone.

1:07:00

We often talk about individual responsibility, we also talk about, you know,

1:07:03

there are consequences with things that we do. Did we give up on

1:07:09

those rights or were they taken away from us? Philip Well, a little

1:07:14

of both, but they've really been taken away from us after the you know,

1:07:18

in the nineteen sixties, we woke up to all these abuses racism and

1:07:23

pollution and lies about Vietnam and gender discrimination, and we needed to change our

1:07:30

values. That's fine, But then these the geniuses backed in decided that they

1:07:35

would turn government into a kind of a software program. Rules would tell you

1:07:41

exactly how to do things. You could have procedures that would make sure every

1:07:45

decision was correct. So the result of that, for example, is that

1:07:49

you now have environmental reviews that going for ten years and they end up being

1:07:55

bad for the environment because you can't ever build a power line because because there's

1:08:00

always somebody who objects to it. So so it's literally, so what I

1:08:05

argue in Everyday Freedom, which is only eighty four pages long, it's getting

1:08:11

a lot of reviews. It just came out, But is it. We

1:08:15

can't actually fix We can't elect somebody to fix this system by himself because we're

1:08:21

can delete it because for example, Washington is stuck in one hundred and fifty

1:08:30

million words of binding federal law, and so were literally you know, we're

1:08:38

at this point where we have to replace it. And it's not to replace

1:08:42

it with quote deregulation. I mean, there needs to be some of that,

1:08:45

but it's to replace it by simpler frameworks like the Constitution, that are

1:08:50

activated by humans taking responsibility. I mean, you happen to live in one

1:08:58

of the few states that has a culture and a tradition of responsibility that's still

1:09:04

alive and well. And you know, because of the tradition of the Mormons,

1:09:10

shurs and such and so that's great, but most places don't have that.

1:09:15

And if you no longer have in other stays, you no longer have

1:09:19

the authority to assert the values of a free discourse in a university or or

1:09:30

standards in a school. Then all of a sudden everything breaks down and everyone

1:09:35

becomes cynical, and then you get polarization and people start pounding the table for

1:09:42

their rights, and you have a society that's fracturing because nobody's free, starting

1:09:48

with the people on top to use their common sense. Yeah, the question

1:09:53

is as well, Philip, and as you look at this, and I

1:09:56

think you're right about this. In your book, you talk about trust,

1:10:00

and you know, I don't know if we have trust in anything anymore.

1:10:03

I mean from the courts to the cobs to our politicians. Certainly we don't.

1:10:08

I mean, how can you build on this if there if there isn't

1:10:11

any trust here. Well, you have to earn trust, yes, yes,

1:10:15

and so and so. The way you earn trust is by making fear

1:10:19

decisions and by and by doing things sensibly. And the only way you can

1:10:26

do that is is you give back, let's say, to the principle of

1:10:29

a school, the authority to actually make judgments about who's what's a good way

1:10:35

of doing this, who's doing the job, who's not. Get back to

1:10:40

teachers the authority to maintain order in the classroom without having to go to a

1:10:44

hearing to prove that, Johnny through the pencil first. You know, you

1:10:49

know, we we we've we've you know that. You know. The free

1:10:54

society, it actually has a kind of It has a formal structure where's law

1:11:00

sets sets boundaries about what's unlawful you can't steel, cheat and stuff. And

1:11:05

in between those boundaries is a field. It's like a corral, and it's

1:11:12

the field of freedom. And within the field of freedom, people have to

1:11:15

be free to take responsibility. They have to be free to not like other

1:11:19

people. You know, in a free society, people ought to be able

1:11:25

to bounce off others and eventually land with people who are like minded, yeah,

1:11:31

and get along. So freedom is not about correctness. It's about people,

1:11:38

about differences and the freedom to be different, different religions and different cultures

1:11:43

and different values, etc. Within the walls, within these fences, these

1:11:47

legal fences. And so what's happened since the nineteen sixties is that we no

1:11:51

longer have these outer boundaries. Law has reached into daily choices, and it's

1:11:58

trying to mediate fearingess of every single thing that goes or almost every single thing

1:12:02

that goes on in society, and the result is that everyone is powerless.

1:12:08

You sure do feel it today, Philip. Great job. The name of

1:12:11

the book is called Everyday Freedom, Designing the Framework for a Flourishing Society,

1:12:15

written by Philip K. Howard. Phillip, thanks for joining us tonight in

1:12:17

good luck with the book. Thank you, Yeah, great to be with

1:12:21

you. Rock all right on our newsmaker line, that is Philip K.

1:12:24

Howards I mentioned, author of brand new books. A small book, as

1:12:27

he said, only about eighty four pages long, but he talks about the

1:12:30

right to be free, the right to have sensibility, the right to have

1:12:35

power, because I think a lot of us nowadays, I certainly feel it

1:12:40

on certain issues, and I think many of you do as well, that

1:12:43

feeling of powerlessness that you know, you know, and we want to put

1:12:48

our faith in our trust in certain institutions, but that doesn't exist anymore.

1:12:54

I mean, you know, you talk about freedom, think about ask yourself

1:12:59

what freedoms do you have today? Because I think many of those freedoms are

1:13:03

slowly being taken away from us, and I think that's what this upcoming election

1:13:09

is going to be all about. Because the Democrats, Joe Biden, the

1:13:13

progressives within his party want to control everything. That's where they get their power,

1:13:18

and you need to be aware of that. All right, more coming

1:13:21

up, we'll talk about ESG with the State Treasurer Marlo Ooakes. We'll join

1:13:26

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know, over we were just talking with Philip Howard about the loss of rights

1:14:36

and sensibility in America today, and one of them has to do with this

1:14:42

plan in the financial markets called ESG. If you think about it, of

1:14:45

all the inroads the left has made into our institutions in recent years, probably

1:14:51

the most puzzling is its increasing dominance of the business world. Now. One

1:14:57

aspect of that, of course, is the movement of ESG. What is

1:15:00

ESG, Well, it stands for Environmental Social Governance Investing ESG. It basically

1:15:06

means swearing fidelity to the craziest of left wing schemes. And you know why

1:15:14

it even became a fad is beyond me. But now apparently the fad is

1:15:17

phading as a matter of fading. As a matter of fact. A story

1:15:19

today in the Wall Street Journals, you know, the headline is why is

1:15:25

ESG investing? Why they never recover? Well, joining us on our Newsmaker

1:15:30

line, someone who's been actively involved in this has tried to make everybody aware

1:15:34

of this is our own State Treasure marlow Oakes, marlow Welcome back to the

1:15:39

show. Is it okay right now? Marlowe? Like what I'm seeing in

1:15:43

some publications, including the Wall Street Journal, is it time to say good

1:15:45

riddance to ESG? Well, I think it's a little bit early to declare

1:15:54

victory on this. And you know, the article that I found in the

1:15:57

Wall Street Journal was talking really specifically ESG products and back in twenty twenty one,

1:16:03

so early twenty twenty one, Blackrock had only four point four percent of

1:16:08

their assets and these kinds of products. The problem is that ESG is trying

1:16:14

to push an agenda through the business world. And the only way you can

1:16:17

do that is to have Sidney Advisory Services, have everyone now product to study

1:16:26

critical race theory, and you have professors in these universities, in this case

1:16:30

George Macon University writing these are articles about what she calls white hetero patriarchal supremacy,

1:16:40

and so she is trying to add to the existing three pillars of white

1:16:46

supremacy, which is this is like the core belief of critical race theory,

1:16:51

which the existing free pillars are anti black racism, anti Indienius settler colonialism,

1:16:58

and anti immigrants orientalism, and the purpose of her article, which was published

1:17:02

in a regular academic journal, was to create a fourth pillar of white supremacy

1:17:08

that she is calling marriage fundamentalism. And what exactly is marriage fundamentalism, Well,

1:17:16

the marriage foundalism is the belief that two parents, nuclear household is the

1:17:21

best household to raise children in. And you know, she argues throughout this

1:17:27

piece that this is that this institution, the nuclear family, monogamous marriage,

1:17:30

was created to perpetuate white supremacy. And that's and and what is she basing

1:17:39

that on her Where is she coming from on that con what did you find

1:17:42

out? Well, you know, it's amazing, she tells. She she

1:17:45

goes all the way back to kind of like the colonial era, and she

1:17:49

says that the you know, white European settlers came in and they imposed this

1:17:56

this new idea, of these new ideas of family formation on North America.

1:18:01

And as I write in my article, she's actually not entirely wrong in this

1:18:05

sense that not just North America, but the entire world before Christianity really spread

1:18:15

with a polygamous world order. If you, if your listeners go back and

1:18:18

think about any major civilization throughout time or place. The Aztec, the Incas,

1:18:26

the Mayans, the Zoos, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Chinese,

1:18:30

the Mongols, the Vikings. All these societies were polygamous societies were the

1:18:35

strongest, wealthiest, most powerful men of mass hundred sun times thousands of women,

1:18:41

and most men did not have any chance to have a wife at all

1:18:45

in their most often placed And this was just the fact of the world until

1:18:49

Christianity and europe European fellists came on. And this was true for North America

1:18:53

too, And did the settlers, the colonial say the colonialists say, this

1:19:00

is not what we want in America. We want a monoga monogamous relationship or

1:19:04

marriage. That's what we think it should be. And by claiming that,

1:19:09

is she claiming death racists. Yes, yes, essentially she's saying that by

1:19:15

perfetuating these monogamous standards that it is that is the core of white supremacy.

1:19:19

But what she leaves out is the fact that if someone was looking to preserve

1:19:24

the power of white wealthy men, the best way to do that would be

1:19:29

through polygamy. And of course, the United States has had a long history

1:19:33

mostly forgotten now, although maybe not so much in Utah of trying to stamp

1:19:38

out polygamy. And as I go through a new article, the United States

1:19:43

Congress, both in the lead up to the Civil War and then in the decades after Civil War past not one, not two, not three, but

1:19:49

four separate laws that's specifically targeted the Mormon Church's practice and sanctioning of polygamy,

1:19:57

and all the case, all those law and li being challenged and going all

1:20:00

the way Supreme Court, and the LDS Church lost every single one of those

1:20:04

cases. You point out that it was what about sixty years ago. I

1:20:10

think you point out in your articles that it was common sense that the best

1:20:13

environment for raising a child was in a nuclear family, mom and dad raising

1:20:18

children. But that all started changing in the nineteen sixties and has constantly changed

1:20:24

over the past. What forty fifty years now? What happened in the sixties,

1:20:28

and what have you seen taking place over the following decades? Gone?

1:20:32

Sure, Well, you know, when you look between a lot of conservatives

1:20:35

point to the Griswold decision, which is in nineteen sixty five. This is

1:20:39

a decision that said that Massachusetts laws that prohibited the sale of contracept is to

1:20:45

married couples violated the first, fourth, and fifth Amendments. A lot of

1:20:49

conservative points that said and say, you know, that's where everything went wrong,

1:20:53

and they say its the beginning of ro but it's really not, because

1:20:58

the right to privacy in that case was centered on the married family. There's

1:21:02

a string of cases before that, a lot of having to do with homeschooling

1:21:06

and letting your uh, letting parents have their keep their kids German and stuff

1:21:12

like that, where the court protected the right of the family of the married

1:21:16

couple within their home. But the break between Briswold and then there's another case

1:21:21

and making Nico Eidens thought. Iidens thought, the case that creates an individual

1:21:26

rights to constrception and that's where the gene and that's where you get this individualism

1:21:31

that is very much centered on the individuals needs and desires and has no respect

1:21:39

at all for the family. This George Mason University professor that you that you

1:21:45

bring up, does she still believe in marriage the nuclear family today or does

1:21:50

she think it should be something different. She definitely thinks she should be something

1:21:56

different. If you read the article herself, you know she is in a

1:22:00

she puts in a relationship with with the man and they have a child,

1:22:02

but they're not married. And she of course she'd metch whites and there's all

1:22:06

kinds of this introspecting section and guilt that that she goes over. But you

1:22:13

know the point of the article is to you know, promote more alternatives to

1:22:18

uh monaugaus marriage including she puts it multiple marriages U. And it's also she

1:22:25

puts extended ken networks. So there is you know, when you go back

1:22:29

and you have a Black Lives Matter movements which first put their world either statement

1:22:34

online, you know they talked about disrupting Western nuclear family and this is all

1:22:40

part of that. You know, Uh, this is not an isolated professor.

1:22:43

If you go back and you look to some of her papers that she

1:22:45

co wrote with other authors, you see some big names on there for some

1:22:47

big universities like Harvard et cetera. So you know, this is part of

1:22:51

a much larger effort within academia to discredit and break up really the foundation of

1:23:00

society. How does the average individual you think con need to stand up to

1:23:03

this or be aware of this and protect the nuclear family today? How what

1:23:10

needs to be done in your opinion con you know, Honestly, my best

1:23:14

advice would be, if you are married and you have kids, is just

1:23:17

to be as happy and successful in your own life as you can. You

1:23:23

know, if you are able to put your own house in order, make

1:23:28

your own uh married life as fulfilling and rewarding as possible, other people will

1:23:32

see that, they will respect it, and and and they'll follow people,

1:23:38

uh, you know, they see, they perform, they find role models

1:23:43

what they see every day. And so I would just tell people that if

1:23:45

you truly believe that marriage music fan's best, live it throughout your own life

1:23:50

and other people will see that example that obviously was not Marlow Oaks, who

1:23:55

is the state treasurer talking about ESG. That was con Carol gon As,

1:23:59

a columnist with The Watch and Examiner, talking about this feminist campaign to label

1:24:03

marriage racist. Now, when we come back, you will hear from Marlow

1:24:08

Oaks, since he talks about ESG coming up right here on the rod Our

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Cat Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n R S.

1:24:34

The rod Ar Cat Show on Talk Radio one oh five nine k n R

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S. All right, I think we now have our ducks in the row,

1:24:45

as we like to say, uh. You know, prior to the

1:24:48

break the news updated at the bottom of the hour, we would suggest or

1:24:53

we had mentioned that we were going to be talking with Marlow Oaks, so

1:24:57

a state treasurer, about ESG, but we actually they played an interview with

1:25:00

con Carroll talking about marriage and racism. Now we have our interview with Marlo

1:25:08

Oaks, who is the state treasurer, and we're talking about ESG. More

1:25:11

and more stories out there say ESG, which may have been an investing fad

1:25:15

for a while, is rapidly diminishing. As a matter of fact, the

1:25:19

Wall Street Journal had this great article as to why ESG investing might never recover.

1:25:26

And we spoke with Marlo Oaks on our Newsmaker line about this and I

1:25:30

asked him, first of all, is it time Marlow to say good riddance

1:25:32

to ESG? Well, I think it's a little bit early to declare victory

1:25:41

on this. And you know, the article that I found in the Wall

1:25:43

Street Journal was talking really specifically about ESG products and back in twenty twenty one,

1:25:50

so early twenty twenty one, Blackrock had only four point four percent of

1:25:55

their assets in these kinds of products. The problem is is that ESG is

1:26:00

trying to push an agenda through the business world, and the only way you

1:26:03

can do that is to have significant amounts of capital to push that agenda,

1:26:10

to be committed to this agenda and push it onto companies, and they would

1:26:14

never be successful doing that just with the ESG products. And so that's where

1:26:19

this them using the Black Rocks Vanguard States treat these large asset owners it basically

1:26:28

had committed to organizations like net Zero Climate Pledge, basically saying we will push

1:26:34

this agenda not just with the ESG assets, but with all assets under management,

1:26:41

even ones that are just passive index products and things like United Nations Principles

1:26:47

for Responsible Investing Principal number two. We will be active owners and incorporate ESG

1:26:54

issues into our ownership policies and practices. So they would take assets, they

1:26:59

take ausets that are in these passive products, the index products like an S

1:27:02

and P five hundred, They're in a lot of different retirement portfolios. They're

1:27:06

not labeled as ESG funds. But because they have made this commitment to the

1:27:12

United Nations or to that zero organization, they are then engaging with the companies

1:27:17

with this ownership interest that they have that Again, they're not labeled ESG.

1:27:23

They go into the companies and they push this agenda on the companies through engagement

1:27:28

and also through the corporate vote that they have as shareholders, and that I

1:27:33

don't know that that is necessarily going to change, but that's the ultimate problem.

1:27:40

It's not the products that are labeled ESG. It's the active ownership engagement

1:27:45

that these investment managers do with the companies to push this agenda. I mean

1:27:51

the ESG the whole term. It means Environmental, social and governance investing.

1:27:57

But it really came down it was all about green energy from the beginning,

1:28:00

wasn't it, Marlow? And it still is today. Well, that's certainly

1:28:04

the driving engine I would call it is not necessarily the green energy as much

1:28:11

as it is the climate crisis narrative. Really, there's two primary agendas that

1:28:16

they're pushing with the sure's the e part and that's the biggest, kind of

1:28:20

most vocal this climate crisis narrative. But there's also the social justice element of

1:28:26

the social Those are the two big primary drivers, and they've what I've read

1:28:33

from different sources like the UN and even aoc HER chief of staff said you

1:28:41

know, the Green New Deal wasn't originally about the climate, it was how

1:28:45

do you change the economic system? The UN with their climate crisis narrative,

1:28:50

they did a commission to study back in twenty eighteen and the headline from that

1:28:55

was basically they said, we cannot address climate change with capitalism. And so

1:29:02

really that is the ultimate goal is to change the economic system, and that's

1:29:10

what's driving the climate crisis narrative. And so that's that's why ESG is so

1:29:15

concerning, is because if you get enough people in the markets to commit to

1:29:20

an agenda, then you change our market based system no longer is in the

1:29:26

market based system. Now you're talking about a system driven by agendas, political

1:29:30

agendas, and our market based system no longer works. And Marlow, where

1:29:35

do we stand on that right now? Has that change taken place? Does

1:29:39

it still have a foothold that approach to things and investing, does it still

1:29:44

have a foothold or has it started to come back a little bit and come

1:29:46

back to a reality so to speak. Yeah, I know we've made some

1:29:54

good progress and I have to give a lot of credit to the Attorney's General,

1:29:58

who is a who have thronate and lawsuits and had hearings, congresses,

1:30:02

had hearings, you know, that putting pressure on these organizations, the big

1:30:08

banks, the big investment managers, some of the insurance companies, you know,

1:30:12

letting them know that that this kind of behavior is not only unacceptable,

1:30:16

but it's illegal. That is causing some of these organizations to step back.

1:30:23

So we've recently seen I believe, some of the big banks shapey Morgan,

1:30:29

and I'm forgetting some of the other organizations that have stopped being part of some

1:30:35

of these net zero organizations, but they're still you know, I haven't seen

1:30:41

anybody quit the un principles of responsible Investment initiative. There's still a lot of

1:30:46

banks and asset managers that are part of the net zero initiatives, and so

1:30:53

there's still, uh, there's still work to be done. But I am

1:30:57

seeing some hopeful signs that that people are recognizing that this is not free market

1:31:02

capitalism, this is something else. Will the argument be made, though,

1:31:06

Marlow, a final question for you this afternoon. Will the argument be made

1:31:11

that there will be room in the overall investment plan for something like ESG or

1:31:15

should it just should we just be rid of it? Well? I have

1:31:21

no problem with individual investors making the decision to incorporate ESG if they want to

1:31:29

do that. The problem is when you get large organizations that are managing money

1:31:33

on behalf of others and pushing an agenda that is clearly anti market based,

1:31:41

an anti market based agenda. That's where the real problem is. And so

1:31:45

you know, the individual investors want to, you know, incorporate ESG into

1:31:51

their portfolios, that's fine. It's really when you consolidate power and have large

1:32:00

organizations with massive amounts of money pushing an agenda that that harms the markets.

1:32:06

That's that's what I'm that's what I'm against. On our Newsmaker line State roser

1:32:11

Marlow Oakes talking about ESG an update on it Wall Street Journal article today say

1:32:16

indicating that more and more investors are turning it away from this whole approach of

1:32:20

ESG and going back to a market approach when it comes to investing. ESG

1:32:26

fading quickly. All right, More coming up here on the rod ar Kenchew

1:32:29

on this Monday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n

1:32:32

r S. Final segment of the rod ar Kenhow with You on this Monday

1:32:45

evening in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n R S. Don't

1:32:51

forget the Jesse Kelly show coming your way following our news update at the top

1:32:56

of the hour. And then of course, uh it is Clyde Lewis with

1:33:00

ground zero from ten to eleven and George Norri handling things throughout the late hours

1:33:06

and early hours of the morning with coast to coast right here on Talk Radio

1:33:11

one oh five nine. Canterres all right, a couple other notes we haven't

1:33:14

gotten to today, but I want to share with you. The White House

1:33:17

tonight is vowing to repeal a provision banning US embassies from flying Pride flags.

1:33:26

The ban is layered in a one point two trillion dollars spending package that nobody

1:33:30

likes. It was signed into law by the President on Saturday and marks a

1:33:34

reversal from the State Deparman's authorization in twenty twenty one of US diplomatic facilities around

1:33:43

the world to allow them to fly Pride flags. Here's what they're saying.

1:33:47

A spokesman for the White House is telling Axios tonight in a statement that mister

1:33:53

Biden believes it was inappropriate to abuse the process that was essential to keep the

1:33:59

government open, and by including this policy targeting LGBTQ and AA plus Americans,

1:34:08

I've got Democrats have done this before too. The spokesman added that the administration

1:34:12

fought against the inclusion of this policy and they will continue to work with members

1:34:16

of Congress to fight an opportunity to simply repeal it. The spokesman added,

1:34:24

we were successful in defeating fifty plus other policy writers attacking the community that Congressional

1:34:30

Republicans attempted to insert Between the lines. The over one thousand page package states

1:34:34

that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be

1:34:41

obligated or expanded to fly or display a flag over a US facility. When

1:34:46

it comes to a Pride flag, I think we are witnessing the latest chapter,

1:34:54

by the way, in the get Walk Can Go Broke saga that is

1:35:00

going on in this country. This one comes from Alaska, where a woman

1:35:04

ran into a rather strange situation. You may have heard about this story.

1:35:09

She was working out at Planet Fitness when she entered the women's locker room only

1:35:15

to find a man in their shaving. Making matters worse, he was doing

1:35:19

so in front of a young girl wrapped in a towel who appeared to be

1:35:23

around twelve years old. Well, the woman identified as Patricia Silva asked the

1:35:29

man to leave. Buddy responded by saying he was queer and refused to go.

1:35:35

At that point, she took a photograph of him and sent it to

1:35:39

the gym's management along with a complaint. In response, Silva's membership was canceled

1:35:46

when news of the incident went out online. It was difficult to see where

1:35:50

the public sentiment was coming down. It wasn't difficult, they should say.

1:35:55

The stock value a Planet Fitness plunged fifteen percent in just one day. Obviously

1:36:02

people were not happy with that. For their part, Planet Fitness is claiming

1:36:06

that Silva's membership wasn't revoked over any sort of transgender policy. They say she

1:36:13

violated a rule against photographing other members there so that battle right now. But

1:36:20

Planet Fitness is paying the price when it comes to the value of its stock.

1:36:26

A couple of political notes, real quickly, If you want to know

1:36:29

what the country thinks about Joe Biden's agenda, look how they vote not of

1:36:33

the ballot box, but with their feet. And we see this all around

1:36:36

the country. Earlier this month, the Census Bureau released data on what is

1:36:42

known as net domestic migration. This tracks where people are moving between counties and

1:36:47

the country. Last year, the ten counties that gained the mode through net

1:36:53

migration had one thing in common. They were all conservative counties, and they

1:36:59

all votvoted for Donald Trump in twenty twenty. At the other end of the

1:37:03

spectrum, all ten counties that saw the biggest negative net migration also have one

1:37:12

thing in common. They all voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. That

1:37:16

includes two blue counties located in red states, Miami Dade County, Florida and

1:37:21

Dallas County, Texas, where Biden got sixty five percent of the vote,

1:37:27

and in Florida or in Florida Miami Dade County. Biden beat Trump fifty three

1:37:31

to forty six, but three point seven million Americans have fled counties that voted

1:37:39

for Joe Biden in twenty twenty. It's going to be such an interesting election.

1:37:44

Could we see a wave. I don't want to say it didn't happen

1:37:47

in twenty twenty. We'll have to wait and see what happens in twenty twenty

1:37:51

four and finally coming of age. Amid inflation the sky high cost of college,

1:37:58

many members of jens Ze say they're struggling to make ends meet. Others

1:38:02

have been derided on TikTok for dome spending, splashing whatever money they have on

1:38:09

spontaneous trips and treats with no thought for the future. That can to help

1:38:14

you, folks at all. However, new research has revealed that there's exactly

1:38:17

there's actually a shocking high number of zoomers who are actually saving money. A

1:38:28

finance app it's known as Cleo, polled seven hundred and fifty members of gen

1:38:32

z Age between sixteen and twenty seven about their attitudes toward money, finding that

1:38:39

almost three quarters of them save some cash regularly. What Dave Ramsey, who

1:38:45

say always have about a three month emergency fund around. Most gen Zers are

1:38:50

saving money as popular online trends increase financial transparency and spending routines. But a

1:38:58

lot of the youngsters are in fact right to save a little bit of money

1:39:00

each end every month. That's according to a survey from this financial firm.

1:39:06

All right, another busy day headed our way tomorrow. Of course, big

1:39:12

hearing before the US Supreme Court on the abortion pill. We'll have the latest

1:39:15

on that tomorrow, and then of course is swing men Wednesday, on Wednesday.

1:39:19

All right, that does it for us tonight, As we say each

1:39:21

and every night, head off, shoulders back. May God blend you and

1:39:25

your family in this great country of hours. Enjoy your Monday. We'll be

1:39:29

back tomorrow at four. We'll talk to you and have a good night.