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It may not sound better today, but I think it's on its way to

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a lot of things to talk about with you today. But we're gonna make it. So hang on in there and be with me today. How are

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you everybody? Hello, Utah. Welcome to the rod Arquad Show on this

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Tuesday afternoon. Just great to be with you. Beautiful day on the outside.

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I took just a minute or two to run out and get a quick

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bite to eat and could put the window down. The sun was shining.

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We may hit seventy seven I think sometime this week, and then of course

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we've got a storm coming in next week. But this is what's spring in

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Utah. Is like beautiful one day, rotten the next day. But we'll

1:38

enjoy it. Well. We can now a lot to get to. Today.

1:41

We're going to be talking about the battle over women in the twenty twenty

1:48

four election. Where do they stand right now in this rematch between Donald Trump

1:57

and Joe Biden. We'll dig into that. Mike Lee will join us.

2:00

He'll talk about the delay in the impeachment proceedings against Alejandro Majorkis. Did you

2:07

know that the Constitution does require the Senate to take up an impeachment issue like

2:15

this now? Joe Chuck Schumer is hopefully going to try and work his way

2:21

around this, but I don't know if it's going to happen, and we'll

2:23

have to wait and see. Michael join us. On that here in a

2:27

little bit, but I want to start off the show today just a quick

2:30

recap of the total eclips that we saw yesterday. You know, it's kind

2:35

of funny. There are reports from both I think it's in Dallas and in

2:39

Indiana where animals just kind of went berserk yesterday due to the total eclipse.

2:46

Some were running for cover while shrieking as the sky went dark. There was

2:51

a report out of Dallas at the Dallas Zoo, giraffes, zebras, and

2:55

ostriges shrieked, squawked and ran for cover as the crowds are the clouds grew

3:02

darker. They didn't know what was going on, but they knew something was

3:07

going on and they didn't want to hang around for it. You also had similar reports coming out of the Indianapolis Zoo. Those are two areas which really

3:15

saw a good total eclipse of the sun. Now, a lot of people

3:20

had different reactions. You know, you heard a lot of ooze and as

3:23

people cheering yesterday when they saw this. But this once in a generation solar

3:28

eclipse really caught the attention of a weatherman in Chicago. His name is Steve

3:35

Sacks, Pete Sacks, I'm sorry. He was at the Indianapolis Speedway along

3:38

with another reporter to get a real good look at this, and I just

3:43

want to hear your reaction when he saw this taking place, because I think

3:46

it's fair to say this guy went berserk. Oh my gosh, Oh my

3:52

gosh, We're almost there. We're almost there. There. It's no telling

3:55

me. This is just amazing. I can't believe I've to bring this to

4:00

you. I'm taking my classes off for a moment because you can actually look

4:03

up and see we're seeing kind of a diamond the fact, but we could

4:06

see the halo, we could see the corona around the sun. The stars

4:12

are starting to come out. This is just an amazing sight. I just

4:15

watch for a moment while I gather myself because I'm just in all the site

4:20

that I'm seeing right now. That has got to be. That has got

4:25

to be the best reaction to the eclipse yesterday. Pete Sachs, weather forecaster

4:30

for NBC five there in Chicago in Indianapolis yesterday where you could really see the

4:34

eclipse and the sky was dark, and he just went absolutely berserk. Kind

4:41

of fun to see it's all over, but once in a lifetime to get

4:44

be able to see something like that. All right, top story of the

4:46

day, in my opinion, the horrific terror plot that was thwarted by the

4:53

FBI. Don't you find it funny that the liberal broadcast networks would be eager

5:00

to give President Joe Biden a counter terrorism win during an election year. At

5:05

leeds take a minute to praise the FBI for finally stopping an ICENS inspired attack

5:12

before it happened. But apparently two of the major networks, CBS and NBC

5:16

ignored this story coming out of northern Idaho where a ISIS inspired terror plot targeted

5:24

Idaho Christians. This a frightening story. Here's a report that was aired by

5:28

ABC listening to what took place. The suspect was arrested on Saturday, just

5:31

hours before the alleged planned assault on Sunday. Authorities say he had picked a

5:35

specific church where he would start his attack, set for the end of Ramadan

5:42

this morning. The FBI claims this eighteen year old was on the verge of

5:46

conducting a terror plot involving attacks on multiple churches in Corterlane, Idaho. Alexander

5:51

Mercurio scene here, knife in head and expressing his allegiance to ISIS. The

5:57

FBI says his plot involved a murderous rampage using knives and firearms to kill parishioners.

6:01

He also planned to set their houses of worship on fire, going from

6:05

church to church until he was killed by police. It's a plan early similar

6:11

to that recent ISIS assault on that concert hall in Moscow that you've talked about,

6:15

using knives, fire and possibly weapons, and so the combination of all

6:20

three, if in fact he did launch that had the possibility of harming a

6:28

lot of people. According to criminal charges unsealed last night, Mercurio had bought

6:31

a number of items for his attack, including butane canisters for setting fires,

6:36

and those charges say. On Saturday, Mercurio sent an audio file to an

6:41

FBI confidential informant twenty seconds long. It says, in part, I'm answering

6:46

the call for the Islamic state for jihad and to kill. The charges against

6:49

Mercurial layout a chilling plan where he would quote incapacitate his father, restrain him

6:56

using handcuffs, and steal his firearms to use for maximum casualties in his attack.

7:01

So it's is tel ABC News. His father had dozens of weapons including

7:04

an AR fifteen style assault rifle. Mercurio's arrest comes at a state of height

7:10

and alert by US law enforcement authorities have been concerned about rage ignited by the

7:15

Israeli Hamas war, and late last week they sent out an urgent bulletin warning

7:18

that Isis was trying to use their horrific attack on that Moscow concert to inspire

7:24

radicals here to conduct US attacks and announcing this arrest. Last night, we

7:30

received statements from both the Attorney General and the FBI Director, both expressing deep

7:35

concern. Their statements a signed of just how serious this case is and just

7:40

how dangerous the threat environment is right now. Well, it was kind of

7:44

a frightening thought, and good work by the FBI for undercovering this. The

7:47

United States has and here's the sad part about all of this. The US

7:54

had said that its ability now to develop intelligence against extremist groups in Afghanistan like

8:03

the ices K has been reduced since the withdrawal of the US troops from that

8:07

country back in twenty twenty one, thanks Joe Biden. The US military has

8:13

said he can see the broad contours of an impending attack, but does not

8:18

have the specific details that it used to have previously. So here we are,

8:22

withdrawal from Afghanistan, we're kind of in the dark to be able to

8:26

keep an eye on some of these self radicalized terrorist groups that are influencing young

8:31

men here in the United States. This plot that the FBI was able to

8:37

thwart could have ended up killing hundreds of Americans with the guns that this man

8:43

had and had access to him. But you know, the FBI was able

8:48

to track it down and to arrest him and did not allow this tragedy,

8:52

which would have been a tragedy to happen. So I think, you know,

8:56

this is just another indication and the you know, the intelligence community is

9:01

warning Americans to be careful right now simply because of what is going on in

9:05

the Middle East and these self radicalized individuals here in the United States who have

9:11

sympathy toward Palestine or toward ISIS, and we'll do just about anything to get

9:16

their attention. Kind of frightening, isn't it all? Right? When we

9:18

come back female voters in twenty twenty four, where do they stand and who

9:24

will win? Will it be Joe Biden or could it be Donald J. Trump? That's all coming up right here on the rod Ar keut Show and

9:30

Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k and RS. Welcome back the rod

9:48

Ar Ketcho here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN ARS live everywhere

9:52

on the iHeartRadio app Don't Forget Tomorrow. Citizen Greg Hughes will join me for

9:56

Wingman Wednesday. That's tomorrow, starting at four here on Talk Radio one oh

10:01

five nine k n RS. Utah sender Mike Lee will join us in just

10:05

about fifteen minutes. He'll talk about the latest developments concerning the possible impeachment Department

10:11

of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkis. There's a development in that story today and

10:16

Mike will have the latest on that as we chat with him. Coming up, Like I said, in just about fifteen minutes, the November election.

10:22

As of today, we hire two hundred nine days away from the election.

10:28

A lot can happen between now and then, and a lot of questions are

10:31

of course about what about women voters. Women voters have out voted or outnumbered

10:37

male voters here in the United States since I think about nineteen eighty four.

10:41

So where do things stand as both candidates are competing right now to win as

10:46

much of the women vote as they possibly can. Joining us on our Newsmaker

10:50

line to talk about it is Julia Manchester. She is the national politicals reporter

10:54

at the Hill. Julie, how are you welcome to the rod Arquetchew.

10:56

Thanks for joining us, Hey on the thank sumatrapping me. I know,

11:01

Julia, we're two hundred and nine days out, but what's your overall assessment

11:05

right now of where women voters stands we get ready for this election in two

11:09

hundred and nine days. You know, it's interesting. I think there was

11:11

a development earlier today with the Arizona Supreme Court ruling that they would uphold that

11:18

eighteen sixty four abortion ban that essentially bans all abortions except when the life of

11:24

the mother is in jeopardy. And I think you are seeing Democrats really trying

11:30

to seize on, you know, state level abortion issues like that. And

11:33

it comes obviously a day after former President Trump said he would leave the abortion

11:39

question up to the states and not pursue a federal ban on the procedure.

11:43

So you're hearing, you know, Democrats really trying to use abortion abortion rights

11:48

as a means to galvanize not only their own base, but also maybe you

11:52

know, recruit or peel off some independent moderate voters or even some more moderate

11:56

Republicans. But at the same time, we know that women vote are not

12:01

one issue voters, and there's lots of pulling that shows that lots of women

12:05

voters, majority of women voters consider the economy and inflation to be their number

12:09

one issue when they go to vote at the ballot box. So I think

12:13

what you're going to see is really the battle of two messages from Republicans and

12:16

Democrats to secure the women vote, which you know oftentimes plays a deciding role

12:22

in election. I was going to ask you that, Julia, about the

12:26

abortion vote and the abortion the single issue there. Do Democrats believe that's enough

12:31

to help them win this election that issue right there? Or are they going

12:35

to need more? I mean, can they focus a majority of your campaign,

12:39

which it appears they're doing right now on the abortion issue? Right?

12:43

So I think Democrats think it's you know, obviously there's multi issues that impact

12:48

women voters, and they will, you know, talking to them, they say, look, we're not only going to talk about abortion, but we're

12:52

also going to talk about, you know, for example, the economy,

12:56

business, finance, inflation, you know, those issues as well. But

13:00

I think right now you're hearing so much chatter about abortion because there's been you

13:05

know, so much movement at the state level and so much news surrounding abortion.

13:09

I mean, like I said just earlier today, the Arizona Supreme Court

13:11

ruling. Last week, you saw Florida's a Supreme Court of holding that abortion

13:16

ban but saying that voters can go to the ballot box in November too and

13:20

have the option of enshrining abortion their states constitution. And then you have former

13:26

President Trump weighing in. So right now, Democrats are just really taking advantage

13:31

of this news cycle. But you know, we'll see, you know,

13:33

if inflation continues to get worse, or you know, or if it gets

13:37

worse, if it continues to get better, if we see any major economic

13:41

developments, if you see immigration developments, I mean, not any policy front.

13:45

If there's a if a policy front is driving a news cycle, I

13:48

think you're going to see, you know, either party really pounce on that

13:52

and try to use it against the other. We're talking right now with Julia Manchester here on the Rod Arcquet Show. She is the national politics reporter at

13:58

the Hill We've seen reports out that male voters, both black male voters and

14:03

the Hispanic male voters are starting to lead the Democratic Party and looking toward Donald

14:07

Trump. Are we seeing the same thing among women, black and women Hispanic

14:13

voters? Any indication there yet, So you're seeing that certainly among not only

14:18

white male voters and Hispanic male voters, but also black mail voters. I

14:22

mean, it's not Donald Trump and Republicans will likely not win the black vote,

14:26

but there is some movement there and it's you know, a movement that

14:31

has some Democrats nervous in terms of you know, women seeing women voters,

14:37

you know, Black women voters for example, We know that they heavily tend

14:39

to lean Democratic. At the same time, though, you know, they

14:43

are concerned about the cost of living and these some issues that President Biden has

14:48

been on the offensive on. So you know, with young voters, young

14:52

women voters, you know, there's a lot of concern about how Biden is

14:56

handling the Israel war against Hamas and Gaza and student loan debt forgiveness for example,

15:01

you know, Biden and announcing his new student loan forgiveness plan in Wisconsin

15:07

yesterday, a swing state was no accident. He knows this is an issue

15:09

that's going to galvanize young voters and young women voters as well. So it's

15:15

something you know, they're all part of the coalition that Biden and also Trump

15:20

has his own coalition that they need to win. And if there's any movement

15:24

against them in one of the their coalitions, they need to do some correcting

15:28

for that. Julia, what about we can't forget the soccer moms or the

15:31

suburban moms. What's your assessment as to where this stands right now, Julia,

15:37

So the suburban moms, the soccer moms have you know, been deciding

15:43

played deciding factors in the past, you know, several election cycles going back

15:48

to twenty eighteen, both on year and off year. Last cycle in twenty

15:52

twenty two, during the mid terms, we saw that those suburban women voters

15:56

you know, went for Democrats and we're turned off by a lot of Trump's

16:00

endorsed candidates, and they were turned off by the overturning of Roe versus Wade,

16:06

and Democrats were successful and their messaging of flipping of essentially not flipping,

16:14

but tying that issue to Republicans. So, you know, I think suburban

16:19

women voters have been leaning towards Democrats, but at the same time, there

16:23

are issues like the situation at the southern border, the economy where Biden is

16:29

playing defense a little bit, and you can't afford to lose that vote.

16:33

Yeah, we are going to get a believer report comes out on the CPI

16:36

tomorrow. We'll get several of those before the election. I would have to

16:40

think the economy, especially among the women in this country today, is going

16:44

to be a key factor in this race. Agree or disagree. I absolutely

16:48

agree. I think it affects all voters, but you know, obviously it

16:51

impacts women, you know, moms, young women, older women across the

16:55

board. Yeah, final question for you, Julian, I appreciate your time

16:57

today. You look at these all the time. What is there an area

17:02

that you like to look at that really gives you an idea as to what's

17:06

going on? Is there a factor that you take a look at, you

17:08

know, I think the economy is always a huge factor. You know,

17:12

it's you know, it's as they say, the economy stupid. But one

17:17

factor that I find really interesting this cycle is how foreign policy is really playing

17:22

a role and how people are voting and you know, you know which candidate

17:26

they're looking at or whether they even vote. You know, it's very rare

17:30

that we see that, but the Israel Israel, Israel's war and Gaza against

17:36

Tamas has really played a huge role, and you know how Democrats are really

17:40

divided on that issue. You are seeing President Biden based the prospect of an

17:45

uncommitted vote in a progressive and young base that is unhappy with him. But

17:48

at the same time, you you hear that, you know in Michigan among

17:52

the Arab and Muslim community as well as young voters. But also you have

17:56

a very sizeable Jewish population in this country, population that tends to lean pro

18:02

Israel. So you know, it's the first time in a while, I

18:04

think in a few recent election cycles that we've seen a foreign policy is you

18:08

really bleed into a general election cycle, and I think that's just fascinating to

18:14

watch. You're going to be interesting to watch on every facet. Julia, Thank you, appreciate your time. I know we'll be talking again down the

18:18

road. Thank you again, Julia, Thank you all right. On our

18:22

newsmaker line, that's Julia Manchester. She is the national politics reporter of the

18:26

Hill talking about the women vote and where does it stand right now two hundred

18:30

and nine days out from the presidential election. More coming up here on the

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rod ARKMCO and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n rs. Let

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me begin state a dirt road, please long in the long radio freedom Oh,

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the rod Ar Kent Show on Talk Radio one oh five to nine knrs.

19:12

All right, welcome back to the rod Ar Kent Show. Who bears

19:15

the responsibility in that tragic high school shooting in Michigan a couple of years ago

19:22

in which four students were killed six others were injured. The first parents convicted

19:30

in a US mass scooting mass school shooting were sentenced to at least ten years

19:36

from prison. Today, Preston Bean said, we'll talk about that with you

19:40

in the five o'clock hour right here on the rod Ar Kent Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine kN R s well as Abby has been reporting in

19:47

her newscast since afternoon. Republican senators have now convinced House Speaker Mike Johnson to

19:52

delay the delivery of two impeachment articles against Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Majorkis, their

19:59

citing concerns Senate Democrats will look too quickly to dismiss them once the trial begins

20:04

in the Upper Chamber. Now, this constitution requires the Senate to consider these

20:11

articles of impeachment, but Chuck Schumer, they pull a rabbit out of the

20:14

head and do something where we never hear the charges against him. I had

20:18

a chance to talk with Utah Center Mike Lee earlier about this, and I

20:22

first about this delay, and if he's in favor of it, he you

20:25

know, my lady's thinking is that it should be delayed for one simple reason.

20:27

He's planning currently or he has been planning on delivering the impeachment articles Wednesday

20:32

night. If he delivers them Wednesday night, that gives us too little time

20:37

to be able to marshal the effective defense between now and the whenever the Senate

20:44

might be recessing for the weekend. In order to push back on this.

20:48

We don't want members to be voting, as we put it here, under

20:52

the influence of jet fumes. The closer you get to the end of the

20:55

week, members start to be influenced by their desire to get out of town

21:00

to get to whatever event they've planned in their home state. We don't want

21:03

that to happen, we think it's more appropriate for them to deliver it at

21:07

the beginning of a legislative work week, and so we're encouraging them to delay

21:11

the delivery until Monday so that we can have the opportunity to have a fullsome

21:17

debate. Remember, what the Democrats are trying to do is tantamount to nuking.

21:22

It's like a nuclear option against the impeachment clause of the Constitution. We

21:27

have a constantial duty as a Senate to try all impeachments. In twenty one

21:33

articles sets of articles of impeachment have been passed in the history of our great

21:37

Republic. In all but three or four of those, I believe it's all

21:44

but free. The Senate. Once the House has passed articles of impeachment,

21:48

has proceeded to conduct a full trial, culminating in a verdict of guilty or

21:53

not guilty. And in those three exceptions were in circumstances where the the individual

22:00

in question had either left office or died, making the case moot. So

22:07

once those circumstances aren't present here, this case is not moot. And so

22:11

it's inappropriate for the Senate Democrats to just say we're not going to deal with

22:17

this. We're not even going to address it. It has to be addressed,

22:21

and it has to culminate in a finding, if guilty or not guilty. Well, Mike, as you just pointed out, the Senate has a

22:26

constitutional duty, I think, to put Alejandro Mayorcis on trial. Why is

22:30

it so important that the Americans get to hear the case against him for impeachment?

22:37

Why is that so important? Well, it's important because there's a wholesale

22:41

invasion taking place on American soil at our southern border. By Maney estimates,

22:48

it's over eight million. By others, it may be more like twelve or

22:51

thirteen million. People have illegally come into our country through our southern border since

22:56

Mayorcis became Secretary of Homelands Curity. And to be clear, Secretary Merrill just

23:02

has the tools to stop the invasion. He has the tools to stop the invasion today under existing law. So it's not a policy disagreement, it's a

23:10

blatant defiance of the laws already on the books. Mike, Let's move on

23:15

to another topic. Got the House of Representatives could vote this week as well

23:18

to continue letting the FEDS spy on American citizens for another five years. We're

23:22

talking about vis visa. Where are you on this, Mike, I mean,

23:26

does the Senate? Can Senate do anything to derail this idea of allowing

23:30

this to continue? But no matter how hard to deep state cries, no

23:37

matter weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth we see from the domestic surveillance entities

23:47

in Washington, Congress must not reauthorize via the seven oh two without requiring a

23:52

warrant to search US citizens through these US citizen queries under the seven oh two

23:57

database. House leadership, including Speaker Johnson and Minority Leader Jeffries, have voted

24:04

in the past for PHIZI seven or two warrant requirements. They did that,

24:08

both of them did back in twenty eighteen. Now they're both opposing a warrant

24:12

requirement, both of them. So the question becomes what what do the intelligence

24:18

agencies get to tell House leadership what to do? And stunningly, the same

24:22

congressman who voted to give the FBI two hundred million dollars for a new building

24:29

are simultaneously argument that we can't possibly require warrants for domestic PHISIS searches. You

24:36

know, on on American citizen, because you know, a few five of

24:41

judges would each need to have a special room called a skiff built in order

24:45

to handle the warrants. And so you know, it's like they're willing to

24:49

show out two hundred million dollars for a building, but not willing to shill

24:55

out I don't know, maybe a few thousand dollars in order to have a

24:59

skiff build for these judges they handle warrant. This is ridiculous. So look,

25:06

if the American people don't want this, they don't want the federal government

25:10

that openly defies the letter and spirit of the Fourth Amendment. And that's what

25:14

happens with the so called backdoor searches under section seven h two. They need

25:18

to be backed up by a warrant compatible with the Fourth Amendment. Are you

25:23

optimistic, Mike, that's going to happen or are you little cautures right now?

25:29

Look, I'm very cautious. I'm very concerned, I should say,

25:33

because there are a lot of signals emanating from the House, the Republican controlled

25:38

House of Representatives, indicating that there may well be support for this bill called

25:47

RISSA that reauthorizes VISA and does not have a warrant requirement they claim that has

25:53

all these reforms in it. A lot of those reforms are fake and illusory.

25:57

But at the best I can described him as anemic and falling far short

26:03

of what we need, which is a warrant requirement to protect US citizens from

26:07

five to seven oh two searches directed at US citizens as a condition for reauthorizing

26:14

FIZA. This isn't that hard now to those who say, well, this

26:18

is a good compromise between them, nonsense. This compromise, the compromise on

26:23

requiring a warrant for government searches of US citizens. That compromise was forged in

26:30

seventeen ninety one. We've never backed away from that, and we can't do

26:33

so now. Final question, Mike, of course, the President again has

26:37

thumbed his nose at the US Supreme Court saying you cannot stop me from student

26:41

loan forgiveness. How is he getting away with this? Mike? Yeah,

26:47

this is a physic that he made to Wisconsin yesterday. He made this attempts

26:52

yet another attempt to cancel students that after the Supreme Court rejected his first attempt

26:56

at mass cancelation. And you know, none other than Nancy Pelosi, hardly

27:02

a Republican, said, you know, people think the president of the United

27:06

States has the power to forgive student loan debts. He does not. Joe

27:11

Biden in twenty twenty four said, we're forgiving six billion dollars in student debt

27:17

for seventy seven thousand borowers. Maybe how that works, isn't it. You

27:22

know, the Supreme Court's already struck down his forgiveness program office. He doesn't

27:26

have the authority to do that. He is not a king, He is

27:29

not an emperor. He is not a legislator who can operate on his own

27:33

unilaterally. President Biden and Vice President Harris, who's simply not telling the truth

27:37

when they say that students won't have to pay those back, they will.

27:42

He doesn't have this authority. These students are being duped again. And it's

27:48

not their fault that he's speaking out of school where he lacks authority. But

27:52

they are being duped again, just as they were during the midterm elections last

27:56

time around. Likely Utah Sunder joining us on our Newsmaker line talking about a

28:00

number of issues, but he spot on this effort on student loan forgiveness.

28:06

It's Joe Biden buying votes, and that's all he's trying to do. He

28:10

knows he has challenges with students or with people under thirty, and he's trying

28:14

to help them their pay their loan up. All right, welcome back to

28:29

the rod Or Cantrill with you on this Tuesday afternoon here on Utah's Talk Radio

28:33

one O five nine, Kate and rth listen and you'll know. You know,

28:38

it's fair to say, unfortunately that Joe Biden has done more to address

28:45

climate change than any other president we've had in this country to this day.

28:49

He said more to address But the question is do voters seem to care?

28:55

And recent poll show that voters do not care. As a matter of fact,

29:00

climate, if you think about this, climate has never been a priority

29:06

with voters, and I think it is really unclear whether climate policies could reverse

29:11

the deep skepticism that I think many people, including young people, feel towards

29:18

Joe Biden. Now, there was a recent Wall Street Journal poll and have

29:22

found that Biden's support among young people is shrinking compared with twenty twenty. I

29:30

made concerns about the president's age, which you have to consider anytime you know

29:36

it is going to be a factor here and for young people, they're very

29:40

upset about Israel's war against Hamas. Don't know why, don't know, you

29:45

know, I think it's indoctrination from our institutions of higher education that Israel is

29:51

the big meaning in the Middle East. But apparently they're upset that Joe Biden

29:56

has tried to straddle the fence between Israel and Hamas. Now, there was

30:00

a journal survey, This was one taken in seven swing states back in March,

30:07

and it found here's what interesting. It found that just three percent of

30:12

eighteen to thirty four year old's key voting block for Joe Biden name climate change

30:18

as their top issue. What are they saying? Economy, inflation and immigration?

30:26

And it'swing that what all of us are saying right now in America about

30:30

what's going on now. Abortion news is dominating the news, of course,

30:34

Donald Trump statement yesterday on abortion, that ruling coming out of Arizona today,

30:40

which used what a law that was passed in eighteen sixty something by Arizona banning

30:47

abortion completely. Remember, Donald Trump says, leave it up to the states.

30:52

The Democrats say, if you leave it up to the states, you

30:55

will get a radical you'll get radical restrictions on abortion. And that's what Arizona

31:00

did today. That's how the Democrats are going to frame this. So you

31:03

have to be aware of that. But I think for Joe Biden to say

31:07

we're going to win because of student loans, We're going to win because of

31:11

abortion, We're going to win because well Donald Trump. Those are the three

31:17

attacks you're going to see the Democratic Party launch against Joe Biden. Now.

31:21

When it comes to climate change in evs, which a Biden administration continues to

31:26

push, a decreasing number of Americans report they're either seriously considered or might consider

31:36

buying electric vehicles. Fifty five percent of Americans said last year they were thinking

31:41

about it. That figure has now declined to forty four percent, according to

31:45

Gallop. The data further showed that just nine percent report that they are seriously

31:52

considering an EV. Yeah, Detroit is being forced to make him. Car

31:56

dealers are being forced to try and sell them, and they sit there on

32:00

the lot. All right. When we come back, we'll dig into that

32:04

ruling or descendency of the parents of a mass shooter at a high school in

32:08

Michigan, your reaction to that and it's a precedent setting. We'll talk about

32:14

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dot com. A lot to talk about today, you know, we just

33:00

heard from Mike Lee and the whole mayorcis thing. Abortion dominating the news today

33:04

because what President Trump had to say yesterday about abortion, and now you have

33:07

the Arizona court ruling today using a very old law to say that abortion should

33:14

not be allowed in the state under no circumstances whatsoever, including cases of rape

33:19

or incests from what I understand, So you know, the Democrats are seizing

33:22

on this issue. You know, we're two hundred and nine days out from

33:25

the election. What input is that going to have on the vote. We'll

33:29

have to wait and see, but that's an issue that's dominating. Another story

33:34

that I find very interesting today and this one I want to open up the

33:36

phones to you and get your thoughts on this tonight is the story coming out

33:40

of Michigan today. The first parents convicted convicted in a US mass school shooting

33:52

were sentenced to at least ten years in prison today as a Michigan judge went

33:59

after for missed opportunities that the judge says the teen that could have prevented the

34:07

teenager from possessing a gun and killing four students back in twenty sixteen. This

34:15

is what the judge said. Those convictions are not about poor parenting. And

34:20

they've already been convicted of manslaughter. These convictions, and I'm reading what the

34:27

judge said. These convictions confirm repeated acts or lack of acts that could have

34:36

halted what she called an oncoming runaway train, an oncoming runaway train. She

34:49

added, there were attempts, extraordinary attempts by the defense to make others beside

34:58

the fifteen year old attacker criminally responsible for that school shooting. Now, one

35:06

of their arguments was this that Jennifer and James Crumley, the boys' parents,

35:13

did not know that their son Ethan had a handgun. He called it his

35:20

beauty in a backpack when he was dropped off at Oxford High School. Prosecutors,

35:27

however, were able to convince the jury that the parents still played a

35:31

disastrous role in this violence. Now, the background on this story is the

35:37

Crumleys were accused of not securing the newly purchased gun at home and acting indifferently

35:46

to signs of Ethan's deteriorating mental health, especially when confronted with a chili classroom

35:53

drawing earlier in the day. They were confronted by it, were asked about

36:00

it, and they didn't do anything about it. The couple, you know,

36:06

the jury did see the teen's violent drawings, as you recall, Ethan

36:13

or Ethan crumbly sketched images of a gun, a bullet, a wounded man

36:19

on a math paper, accompanied by phrases like the thoughts won't stop help me,

36:24

blood everywhere. My life is useless. He told a counselor that he

36:31

was sad his grandmother had died his only friend suddenly moved away, But he

36:37

says the drawing only reflected his interest in creating video games and not in violence.

36:43

Now, where this is going to go, I'm not sure, and

36:49

that's why I want to open up the phones to you and get your reaction

36:52

to this today. His parents, if you recall this story, were called

36:57

to a meeting at the school, a hastily called meeting. All of a

37:01

sudden, the school's just calling him saying we need you ge to come down

37:05

to the school. The meeting laughed. Less than fifteen minutes. Okay,

37:12

They did not mention that the gun resembled one James Crumbley had purchased just four

37:15

days before. School staff did not demand that Ethan go home, but they

37:24

were surprised when the crumbles did not volunteer it. So here you have the

37:30

schools saying you got a troubled kid here, we think he should go home.

37:36

They didn't. They left it up to the parents, and the parents

37:38

didn't see a big deal in all of this. Instead, the parents left

37:44

with a list of mental health providers and said they were returning to work.

37:49

And they went back to work, and then Ethan Crumbly killed four people and

37:53

injured six other students. Now in this story, the parents Jennifer Crumley,

38:02

she's forty six, blamed the school for not giving her a better picture of

38:09

Ethan's behavior. It included sleeping in class watching a video of a mass shooting

38:17

and writing negative thoughts about the family. But the question is would that have

38:23

changed their mind? So here we have a case in America day this an

38:29

unusual case where you have the parents of a mass school shooting being convicted of

38:37

voluntary manslaughter. Involuntary manslaughter, I believe it's a charge, and now being

38:44

sentenced to ten years in prison for not doing something to prevent their son from

38:53

undertaking this carnage, for killing four other students and wounding six. They argue

39:01

that the school should have done more. The school says it's not responsible.

39:07

But the question comes down adds to what the role of a parent should be

39:12

here and what the role of a school should be here. But not a

39:15

lot of pressure on a school. So, in being aware of this story,

39:22

and I know a lot of parents out there, we have a lot of gun owners in this state, a lot of guns in the home,

39:27

which is fine, that's your Second Amendment right. I don't challenge that at

39:30

all. You have a right to do that. There are also kids with

39:34

guns, and there are a lot of very responsible gun owners out there who

39:37

teach their children about guns and gun safety. I would imagine limit access to

39:43

those guns. But in this case, is the responsibility on the parents.

39:50

From everything I've been able to read, I think these parents, you know,

39:54

they I don't know what it was, but for some reason, I

40:00

don't know if they want to address this, if they didn't know how to

40:04

address it, if they thought it was being blown out of proportion by people

40:08

concerned about this. But it appears at this point they didn't do anything,

40:14

and they should have. But you know, other people are saying, wait

40:19

a minute, what about the school. Should the school have stepped in and

40:22

done something and made sure that this young man didn't get into the school that

40:27

day or left the school that day. So I think this is a very

40:30

interesting story, and you have to think about it. If you know,

40:37

another mass school shooting takes place and we aren't advocating it. I'm not sitting

40:43

here saying, you know, uh, yeah, it's you know, I'm

40:46

not here to say it's going to happen. But let's be honest, folks,

40:50

it could happen, and is a case like this setting mom and dad

40:54

up for more trouble because in this regard, I get a sense the parents

41:00

didn't take this seriously. The parents from everything I've read and you may have

41:07

read this story as well. Could have done more to prevent this? Maybe

41:12

the school could have been done more. You don't know. I don't want

41:15

to put the blame on the school, but the parents bear some blame.

41:21

And now they're going to spend ten years in prison for not stopping what the

41:23

judge called a runaway train with what this young man did. So I want

41:30

to ask you tonight on this, this whole story was you know, the

41:36

parents have been convicted ten years. They're asking for some leniency here, they've

41:40

already served about two and a half years in prison. The role of school,

41:45

the role of family or friends in this regard this is evil what this

41:52

young man did. He was mentally ill, there's no doubt about it.

41:57

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42:00

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All right, if you're just joining us now, you know the first parents

43:00

convicted in a US mass school shooting were sentenced today to at least ten years

43:05

in prison. This is the first time this has ever happened, and a

43:08

lot of people are looking at this saying, Okay, where do we go

43:12

from here? What happens if there is another school shooting and the parents don't

43:17

do everything they can to stop it from happening. Will these parents face prosecution

43:23

the way this couple did in Michigan. Now, there are a lot who

43:27

feel the Michigan parents should have done a lot more, and I agree they

43:30

may have not taken this as seriously as they should, but they're also pointing

43:36

a finger at the school, pointing the finger at the community. I want

43:39

to get your reaction to this. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one

43:43

zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero, or on your cell

43:46

phone dial pound two fifty and say hey Rod. To the phones we go,

43:50

Let's talk to Will on I fifteen tonight, Will, how are you?

43:52

Thanks for joining us, Hey Rod, thanks for taking my call.

43:57

There's several points I want to make. I think this is a very calmplex

44:00

issue. It is the first one being, I think Americans have a bad

44:04

habit of any time anything bad happens, they always want to blame someone.

44:07

That's the first thing on their minds. The second thing is if we were

44:10

to say who's at fault here the parents. I'm leaning towards the parent side,

44:16

but at the same time, I'm also thinking about Sandy Hook, where

44:21

the shooter was on prozac and all these anti depresence and psy trophicks. And

44:24

I'm curious if you know if this shooter was jacked up on all these meds.

44:29

I don't know that, I wish I did. I don't have information on that. But that's a very good point that you make. Will was

44:35

he And that's another question that needs to be raised, doesn't it. Yeah,

44:39

I agree, I agree, Thanks Rod, all right, all right,

44:42

well, thank you very very much. You know, this is very

44:46

complex issue, and this goes to the issue of mental health in America today

44:54

and mental health among our young boys. We talk about this a lot.

45:00

But the question is what is being done. Obviously this young man was very

45:06

disturbed. Now I'm not sure how his parents treated it, you know,

45:12

and I'm not defending the parents. The parents should have done more here,

45:16

and you know, to go to a school and I'm not sure what happened

45:22

in this meeting that they had with school officials, but apparently they showed him

45:25

this painting or this drawing that the kid had and had gun and victims and

45:30

blood and stuff like that in it. The parents, you know, if

45:36

if maybe there is a parent out there, maybe you would like to talk

45:39

about this who has had to confront a child who you are very very concerned

45:47

about their mental stability. Maybe the school has contacted you and said, you

45:53

know, we're worried about whatever him or her, and we think something needs

45:59

to be done there. And as a parent, how have you approached this

46:05

because it can be very very frightening. Now, if you had gone to

46:08

a meeting like that where the school looks at you and says, look at

46:15

this drawing that your son has, you know what, what can we do

46:22

about it? How can we help you? Obviously we think that this young

46:27

man needs some help. Can you get him the help he needs? And

46:35

for the parents to say, I'm not you know, you just don't know

46:37

what happens here. Did the parent simply say he'll be okay, don't worry

46:42

about it, he's just going through a phase. Nothing will happen, or

46:47

as a parent, should that parent have gone, well, we got some

46:52

problems here. You know, you're coming home with us. We're going to

46:55

try and figure out a way to get you some help because you may need

47:00

it. You know, kids do nutty, nutty things all the time.

47:06

Those of you have raised kids, you know what it's like. They do

47:09

some things sometimes that are just nutty. They're trying to figure out who they

47:15

are. But if you have a situation like this, you know there's an

47:22

indication something here is seriously wrong. Folks, there is help out there.

47:30

So if you're a parent right now and you have guns in the home,

47:37

maybe your son or daughter they may have a gun on their own. You

47:39

may have gotten it for a gift, which is fine, you have trained

47:44

them properly about safety and how to use it. But you see over time

47:52

a change in your child's behavior, and you're kind of saying to yourself,

48:00

I need to do about this. Where do I go from here? How

48:04

do I get my son or my daughter help? Because you know, you

48:08

just never know. We just don't know what triggers people to do things like

48:13

this. There's not one answer. So I'll get your reaction to it.

48:16

Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple eight five seven eight zero

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one zero, or on your cell phone needing dial pound two fifty and simply

48:24

say, hey, Rod, but where is this? You know there are

48:29

people out there today who're saying, well, just setting a bad precedent here.

48:36

Moms and dads, you better be much more aware of what's going on

48:39

in your children's life or you could end up like the Crumbleys. Now,

48:45

everything you read about the Crumbley's, you know they are. I guess there

48:50

were some who would argue they were not the ideal parent. That's you know,

48:55

their parents judging how a parent parent, so to speak. I think

49:00

it's real risky territory. That's why you need to think about this and see

49:05

where this is going. Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero

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triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Let's go to the phones

49:13

and see what you have to say tonight on this again eight eight eight five

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fifty and say hey, Rod, your calls and comments coming up on the Rod Arcat shown on the Rod Arcats Show on talk radio one oh five nine

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kN rs. All right, welcome back the Rod Arcat Show on this Tuesday

49:45

afternoon right here on Utah's Talk radio one five nine knrs. If you're just

49:50

joining us now. Jennifer and James Crumley, they are the parents of the

49:54

Oxford High School shooter Oxford High School in Michigan. They were sentence today to

50:00

ten to fifteen years in prison after being found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. They

50:07

are the first parents in the US to be held responsible for their child school

50:12

shooting. Is it a correct decision setting a bad precedent? Where do we

50:15

go from here with us? What impact could this have? Back to the

50:19

phones, we go and let's talk with Aaron, who's in Salt Lake City

50:22

tonight. Aeron, how are you welcome to the rod Arkhead Show. Hey,

50:27

I appreciate it. Rod Just a couple of things have been concerned about

50:31

as I've seen some of the youth. Is the video games they're playing,

50:36

the Call of Duty, the Black Ops, the Grand Theft. You know,

50:42

these kids have been baby st a lot by these new games that are

50:46

coming out, and you know, it's a three to zero to go through,

50:51

and the game is shooting and killing and destruction, and you mix that

50:57

with a little bit of some mental illness or some some things of depression,

51:02

and I think you have a recipe for a disaster. And I think parents

51:07

need to do a better job of finding out what's going on in their kids'

51:12

lives and what they're into. Aaron, if you ever watched any of those

51:15

videos, do you have children or have you ever seen them? I have,

51:21

and I have my son. Cut it up. I shouldn't take it.

51:24

Wow, I could not take it. I just couldn't. I couldn't

51:30

handle it because I just brought just I was I was mortified when I saw

51:36

the new additions that come out of and it's more graphic you can find it.

51:40

And I said, this is this is taking lives, and it's and

51:45

you take a kid that's addicted to those We have an addiction of gaming in

51:50

our society with younger people, and and it's it's pretty scary, and it's

51:55

just sad to think that that all this tragedy could have been avoided if there

52:00

is more involvement from the family. And I'm not saying that families can prevent

52:05

all these things, but when you see these kids playing these things day in

52:09

and day out, day and night, for hours at a time, you

52:14

need to kind of step in as a parent and see what's going on and

52:17

take evaluation of the kids's health and mental health and what they're thinking and going

52:23

through. It could be avoided. Yeah, Aaron, you're a good parent

52:28

for doing what you did. I have older sons who I think play those

52:31

games. They're older now, and I'm not sure how impacted they are on

52:37

this. I've never played one. I don't watch them. I know they get more and more graphic all the time, and they don't have children who

52:45

are at that age that they would want to play. The Most of the

52:47

video games that kids play now, the younger age, I think are like

52:51

Fortnite. I don't pay any attention to this, by the way, but

52:53

I mean, and there were attempts here on violent video games in this country,

52:58

and there are warning labels on them. But warning labels are put on

53:01

any everything anymore, and I don't think anyone pays attention to them, do

53:05

they. Let's go to Brad and Logan do or Brad has to say on this tonight? Brad, how are you welcome to the Rod Arciad Show.

53:13

I'm good, Rod, thanks for taking the call. You know, I

53:15

got a couple of thoughts on this. First of all, you mentioned that

53:20

the school. The people at the school called the parents and told them what

53:23

they've observed. Are sure students around this kid have observed the teachers they saw.

53:30

They're just as culpable as the parents, aren't they? So why not

53:35

charge all of them? They should all be charged. If the parents are

53:38

going to be charged, why do you think the school should be charged?

53:42

Yeah, Brad, wait a minute, why do you think the school should

53:44

be charged? I mean, it is is that child the school's responsibility primarily

53:53

during the day? It is, and he's with them all day. They

53:58

may, in fact no more about him and his tendencies than the parents know,

54:01

So why shouldn't they be charged? That's all they're doing to the parents,

54:07

same thing. Yeah, White. Another aspect of this is I've had

54:10

a kid. I've had a kid with these issues. Not these issues,

54:15

but you know, counseling and going through the therapy. Do you do you

54:20

come up to your kid and you say, are you having thoughts about shooting

54:22

up the school? That's only going to create a situation. So the parents

54:28

are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Why are they

54:31

charging the parents? I'm totally stunned by this. There is only one person

54:38

who made the plans, had the thoughts, and fulfilled them, and it's

54:43

the kid. The kid as an adult and move on. Yeah, you're

54:45

right, Brady. The one person responsible really for all of this is the

54:51

kid himself, and he's been sentenced. Justin at Ogden Tonight wants to weigh

54:55

in on this, Justin, how are you thanks for joining us, good

55:00

Ron, how are you? You're welcome. I'm a firearms instructor here in

55:07

Utah and I just had a couple of comments on it. I know legally

55:13

the parents are supposed to keep that firearm secured from anyone who's not authorized to

55:19

have it. And after following the story, I kind of understood that they

55:23

got it as a birthday present for him, And just as a parent of

55:28

three kids, I have to say that you, as a parent, would

55:31

have to know if your kids responsible enough to handle that kind of a thing.

55:37

I know some kids who are responsible enough to own like a twenty two

55:42

rifle or I mean, in some cases a hunting rifle, But I know

55:46

other kids and you can kind of tell that aren't ready for that responsibility emotionally,

55:52

mentally, or you know, from purely a maturity point of view.

55:58

And I think I I also think though it sets the dangerous precedence to yeah,

56:04

point the secret the parents, because at some point you have to look

56:07

at these kids and say, you know what, they have a conscience, they made this decision. Nobody's blame but the person who pulled the trigger.

56:15

That's right, that's right, Justin. Yeah, Yeah, you're right.

56:21

Yeah, I just I worry that it'll set a dangerous precedence. And you

56:24

know, once we do that, we kind of don't go back. Yeah,

56:29

yeah, I think that's thank you for your call, Justin I think that is a concern that some people have out there. Is the preston that

56:35

is being set with this and Farmington. We're talking with Heather tonight here on

56:38

the rod Arketcho. High Heather, you know, Heather, Heather going once,

56:49

Heather going twice, Heather going three times. We may have just missedter,

56:53

Heather, call back if you'd like to weigh in on this. All

56:55

right, more of your calls coming up here on the rod Arketcho. The

56:59

story tonight, though, we're talking about, is the story involving the Crumbley's

57:02

James and Jennifer. Now they are the parents of Ethan Crumbley, who was

57:06

sentenced after he went on a mass school shooting, killing four students wounding six

57:12

others. The parents sent today to tend to fifteen years in prison after being

57:17

found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. The court is basically saying, you should have

57:22

done more, and if you would have, you could have protected us from

57:25

this. Your calls and comments coming up on the rod ar Kencho and Talk

57:30

radio one oh five nine kN rs listening, you'll know it is the rod

57:37

ar Qutcho on Utah Talk Radio one o five nine kN arres just joining us.

57:42

We're talking about the parents of a mass school shooter in Michigan. They

57:46

were sentenced today after being found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, to tend to fifteen

57:52

years in prison for not going more to top their son from killing four students

57:57

and wounding six others. A lot of people reacting to that today, concerned

58:00

about the president that may be set back to the phones. We go and

58:05

let's talk with Rick in Centerville tonight here on the rod Arcuatcho. Rick,

58:08

how are you, thanks for joining us tonight, your thoughts, good afternoon,

58:13

Good afternoon, Row. Yeah, I agree, they're setting the precedent.

58:16

You know, everybody wants to blame everybody as as many people as they

58:21

can for whatever happens in this world. And this kid obviously has got problems,

58:29

whether it's drug induced or medication induced. But people are grasping a straw

58:36

as they want to blame everybody for everything. You know, politicians need to

58:40

stop sensationalizing these guns and making it as everybody think they're a big boogeyman and

58:51

making such a big to do about it. The kids are intrigued by the

58:53

guns. I was, I was a kid in the sixties and seventies.

58:57

I bought my first twenty two when I was ten years sold. I went

59:00

down and bought it at the store. I didn't have to have anybody signed

59:05

for it. I bought my first honeting rifle at fourteen, and it was

59:09

a tool. Everybody grew up. Everybody knew what it was. And I

59:17

blame society for it because people are just you know, people's talk about guns.

59:22

Why do you have a gun? Why do you have this? Because they're scared of it. Yeah, they don't know. It's just a tool

59:27

like everything else, and it's just, you know what, blame charge the

59:30

kid because this will not stop. You'll get people to play, you get

59:36

pedophiles. Well they're freaking twenty years ago. Didn't stop it, you know.

59:42

I know, Rick, I've got to get to other callers, but I see what you're saying there. You know, society wants to blame everybody

59:45

nowadays. Doug in provo tonight on the rod ar Kitcho, Hi, Doug,

59:52

hot Rod our cat. How are you doing tonight? I'm doing well, Doug. What are your thoughts on this? Holy cow? Rod?

59:59

What is our kind you're coming to? I mean, okay, this if

1:00:02

you're going to charge the parents with something, charging with neglect, because that's

1:00:08

really what it comes down to, or idiocy. I mean, why are

1:00:13

you buying a gun? I mean, how old is this boy? It

1:00:15

was what fourteen fifteen? I believe fourteen fifteen. That's when the hormones is

1:00:22

kicking in. That's ridiculous. Yeah it was seventeen. Yeah, he was

1:00:27

sixteen. I'm sorry he was sixteen when it happened. But you know what

1:00:31

the bottom line is is that the brain doesn't get mature until twenty six.

1:00:37

Now, like I said, charge if you want to charge him with something,

1:00:42

charging with the neglect, because if they were good parents, they would

1:00:46

have been involved in his activities as far as the video games and all these

1:00:52

other things. And if he needed help, then then the parents. And

1:01:00

I'm going to say this, you know, as a as a father,

1:01:05

you know they these kids are going through a lot these days. Yeah,

1:01:08

they are. They're going through things that we don't go through. We never

1:01:13

went through. I mean, I don't know about your old man, but my old man would have took me out in the back of the shed if

1:01:17

I was just playing with his gun. Yeah, yeah, what happened?

1:01:22

Yeah, yeah, I see where you're going, Doug. Parents are under

1:01:25

the pressures, under the on. These kids are different today. Now I

1:01:30

can always say, come on, it's not any different, but they are different today, and I think we do need to understand that. And it's

1:01:36

a boy. It's a greater responsibility for mom and dad. Am I glad

1:01:38

my kids are growing up. I'm not from parents to younger children today.

1:01:42

I watch them do the best they can when it comes to raising our grandchildren,

1:01:45

my kids in South Jordan tonight here on the rid Arutch, Oh,

1:01:47

I might go ahead with your comment. I want to say that there's been

1:01:54

bad parents for a long time. There's been guns for a long time.

1:01:59

But the schools have changed, and if the parents are going to be charged,

1:02:04

the school should also be charged. Why we need to change the schools?

1:02:07

Okay? And how would you change the school? Would they have stepped

1:02:09

in and said you need to take your kid home with you. He's dangerous

1:02:14

right now? Okay? You you went to school yea with the school shootings

1:02:19

in your time, not in my time. Did you ever have his fights?

1:02:24

Ah? Yeah, yeah, there was fist fights. When I grew

1:02:28

up, there was fist fights, but there were no school shootings. We went shooting, We went out in the country and shot. We we grew

1:02:35

up with guns. It was normal. The parents disciplined the kids. The

1:02:37

kids knew right and wrong and good and bad. And it's the it's the

1:02:44

schools that have changed. All right, Mike, thank you. Let's go

1:02:47

to John and West Jordan tonight here on the rod or catcho. John,

1:02:51

how are you well? Thank you your thoughts on this? John. So,

1:02:57

I have a friend that was from India and his he came over here

1:03:01

with his wife. Well, they went they went through a divorce and she

1:03:07

was going to press all these charges and she went back to India to print

1:03:10

us all these charges. And I said, well, what happens if you

1:03:14

don't go back to India? Because he was still here. He said,

1:03:17

well go, they'll bring charges against my mom and dad. Really wow,

1:03:22

and put them in and put them in jail. So I think that's the

1:03:27

direction we're going. And that's not a good direction. No, I had

1:03:30

never heard anything like that, John, Thank you, never heard of anything like that today in West Valley wants to weigh in on this tonight here on

1:03:37

the rod arkitchen go ahead today and my thoughts are when we have minor children,

1:03:44

they are a responsibility if there is any morning signs whatsoever, Like it

1:03:50

sounds like there were pictures, thoughts, feelings, whatever, the school.

1:03:55

We sent our kids to school. There is an expectation that the school is

1:04:00

going to be, you know, if they are aware of these warning scigns,

1:04:02

that they have an obligation to notify the authorities that this child has these

1:04:08

thoughts and feelings. Whether it's I don't know if they can notify any kind

1:04:12

of psychologists or law enforcement or whatever, but I think that is both.

1:04:18

It's it wells all of them, the child, the parents for providing the

1:04:21

gun and then not acting on any of the warning signs that they saw,

1:04:27

and the school for also being aware of the warning science and not acting on

1:04:31

it. I mean, we trust these people with our children. You know,

1:04:35

there has got to be some accountability when they are aware that this kid

1:04:40

is deranged. Yeah, yeah, today, you make a good point,

1:04:44

But I you know, and I've got to get to a break here. I wonder that we have tied the hands of school officials to do anything about

1:04:54

this anymore. If schools are told lay off on this, they'll get involved

1:04:59

in this. I'm not sure what the rules are for schools anymore. If

1:05:02

they can step in and say, mom and dad, we're concerned about your

1:05:05

child. We're concerned about your student today, would you please come and take

1:05:10

him or her home and get them some help because we think they're a danger

1:05:15

to themselves and they could be a danger to other students in the school today.

1:05:18

I'm not sure if schools are even allowed to do that anymore. All

1:05:23

right, when we come back, we'll focus on schools, but really women

1:05:27

in sports, men in women's sports, big ruling on that. Today we'll

1:05:30

tell you all about us. Stay with us our number three of the rod

1:05:53

our catch up with you on this Tuesday, beautiful day, I mean out

1:05:55

So I just had a chance to take a look. Blue sky, pup

1:05:59

clouds in the air, but sunny, and it's just slowly going to warm

1:06:02

up all week. So it looks like we've got a great week ahead.

1:06:06

Now. I watched my card this morning. Watch you'll rain tomorrow. It

1:06:10

always happens, because isn't that simply the case? All Right, Midney Hour

1:06:14

coming your way this hour seventeen years in a row for the State of Utah,

1:06:18

seventeen years in a row, Utah has been selected for something, and

1:06:25

we'll explain what that is. Also, you know, the economy. The

1:06:30

Biden administration insists that the economy is getting better, but you break the numbers

1:06:35

down, be it inflation. We'll get a new report on that tomorrow with

1:06:39

the CPI report. Unemployment, the cost of everything. The American people aren't

1:06:45

connecting to that, and what is wrong with that messaging? Why are they

1:06:48

failing in that regard. We'll talk about that coming out, but right now

1:06:51

I want to talk about women's sports. First of all, this note the

1:06:56

we're out today is that the NC two A women's basketball tournament, which took

1:07:00

place Sunday afternoon, drew more viewers than the men's final four for the first

1:07:05

time in history. Want to reflect in the money each side earned for TV

1:07:10

rights six point five million for the women's tournament, eight hundred seventy three million

1:07:15

dollars for the men's tournament. That's a bit of a change. Now.

1:07:17

The other big story is that the NAIA, that's an organization very similar to

1:07:24

the NC two A but represents smaller schools, is now believed to be the

1:07:30

first college sports association to implement a ban that prevents transgender women. Those are

1:07:36

men who think they're women from competing in sports. With the exception of competitive

1:07:44

cheer competitive dance, the NAIA created separate categories for male and female participants.

1:07:51

Well, who should compete in women's sports today? I think many of you

1:07:55

know the answer, but let's talk with our next guest about that. Charles

1:07:59

Lipton, Professor of International politics at the University of Chicago. He also has

1:08:03

articles available at Charles Lipson dot com. If you want to read what Charles

1:08:08

writes every week, he does a great job with it. He's joining us

1:08:11

on our newsmaker line right now. Charles, How are you welcome back to

1:08:13

the show. It's great to talk with you. Rod. You know I

1:08:17

predicted the eclipse yesterday? You did, yeah, like a week ago?

1:08:25

That was pretty sure? All right? I want to hit your reaction to

1:08:29

what the NAIA has done when he comes to women's sports. Why won't the

1:08:32

NC two A do the same thing? Charles? I think that they're caught

1:08:38

between the dog and the hydrant. I think that the politics of progressivism,

1:08:44

for whatever reasons, has made it very difficult to do what ordinary common sense

1:08:50

would dictate. Let me draw a couple of distinctions here. I think the

1:08:57

first thing is to say that every person deserves respect. And if we're talking

1:09:03

about adults, your listeners can have one view or another about whether or not

1:09:11

a person should be able to change his or her gender a fine, but

1:09:18

let's assume that you have complete respect that for adults. I think, by

1:09:25

the way, for children, irreversible changes is child abuse, and I think

1:09:30

it will stop fairly soon because of the threat of future lawsuits by children who

1:09:35

claim that they were in effect abused by the hospitals, or the doctors,

1:09:39

or even their parents. But when you talk about sports, there are really

1:09:45

two issues. One issue is that in some sports you could be injured by

1:09:50

much stronger player. I think that that's an important issue, but it's not

1:09:57

the most fundamental. The most fundamental is is it fair? And the answer

1:10:01

is no, it's simply not fair because of great differences in strength, lung

1:10:13

capacity, body composition and the rest. And I give a couple in my

1:10:17

article. I mean, if people go to my website, they can sign

1:10:21

up it's free to receive my articles. I put pictures and so forth in

1:10:28

there. And the average length of a golf drive on the Women's PGA Tour.

1:10:33

The LPGA tour is two hundred and forty nine yards. On the men's

1:10:40

tour, it's fifty yards longer. Okay, that's why they're women's tease.

1:10:45

If anybody plays a golf when Leah Thomas, who famously became an NCAA Women's

1:10:56

restyle swimming champion, well number one, she had been number sixty five in

1:11:04

the men's category. So this is just unfair to women. And to call

1:11:11

it I find it I want to go one step for I find it bizarre.

1:11:15

Really, it's sad they feminists have not spoken out about this. To

1:11:21

call the women who are doing this, to say that this is the transgender

1:11:28

women is somehow a victory for LGBTQ. It may be a victory for the

1:11:33

trends within that group, but there are a lot of lesbian women who are

1:11:38

competing in these sports and this disadvantages them as much as it does conversection.

1:11:44

Yeah, yeah, it does, Charles, I you know what I find really funny, Well, there are a lot of things that you just kind

1:11:48

of look at this and you laugh sometimes, But isn't it funny that you

1:11:53

find very few women who want to trans into being a man competing in men's

1:11:58

sports. Does that tell us something? Right from the start? Charles,

1:12:01

you know, I wish I had included that in my article because it is

1:12:05

so true. There are women who do transition into being men, but then

1:12:12

they don't want to compete in men's sports. And in fact, I would

1:12:16

say that those people should, because they were born as females, should be

1:12:23

allowed to compete in women's sports. There's also a question about why you wouldn't

1:12:30

let other women take testosterone supplements. Those are illegal in all of these sports,

1:12:35

but why But it puts them into disadvantage to people who have testosterone naturally

1:12:42

because they were born as men. Yeah, Charles, I'll tell you what

1:12:46

you know. And the interesting thing, and you mentioned this already. I

1:12:49

am still amazed that an organization like NOW, which professes to be there to

1:12:56

fight for women's rights, does not say anything. As matter of fact,

1:13:00

it was last week we had Riley Gaines on the show and her and Meghan

1:13:03

Kelly responded to this post that NOW would put up on their websites. They'd

1:13:08

SIMS taking it down, claiming that women who speak out against trans athletes are

1:13:13

racist and homophobic. That's the organization for women. What is up with now

1:13:20

now is the past. It's good way to put it, good way to

1:13:25

put it droll. But I do think that what happens here is that you

1:13:31

had this sort of like an earthquake, and you're on one side of the

1:13:39

or maybe let's call it the continental divide, something that people in in Utah

1:13:44

are very familiar with, and you're either on one side of the continental divide

1:13:48

or you're on the other. And I think that people have been very,

1:13:54

very reluctant to be on the wrong side of the continental divide on almost any

1:13:59

ideological the issue. And then the second thing that came out of your quotation

1:14:03

of their rod is how much hyperbole we hear. It's not just that Joe

1:14:10

Biden has has helped Israel. He's a genocide person. I mean, he's

1:14:16

doing things as bad as Hitler, you know. I mean these things are

1:14:20

just crazy talk, and they degrade our public discussion, which is why why

1:14:30

it's very important for rational discussion like the cond that you have on your show

1:14:35

to sort of penetrate through all the fond Yeah, you know what's said too,

1:14:41

is we're going to have athletes from around the world compete in Paris.

1:14:45

This summer, and I think this issue is going to be dominating a lot

1:14:48

of this discussion, which I think is very sad because it should focus on

1:14:53

the athletes who represent their gender and now focus on those who have a trouble

1:14:58

with gender identity, and I think that's going to be very sad. Charles, would you agree? I absolutely agree, and I just think it's a

1:15:08

very peculiar thing that we've gotten into this situation. We should be in a

1:15:12

position where we can respect individuals, but not where we have to say a

1:15:18

man is a woman and a woman is a man in sports. Yeah,

1:15:23

true, true. Charles. Always great chatting with you. Thanks Charles.

1:15:27

Great to talk with you. Ron all right on our newsmaker line. That's

1:15:30

Charles Lipson. Charles is ah, let me get the information Professor of international

1:15:34

Politics. I have Charles on the show enough. I should know that he's

1:15:38

at the University of Chicago. If you want to take a look at his

1:15:41

articles, and they're always very, very available, very insightful. All you

1:15:45

do is have to go to Charles Lipson dot com. That's Charles Lipson dot

1:15:50

com. More coming up right here on the right Arcahow and Talk Radio one

1:15:55

oh five to nine can Ter s. All right, welcome back to the

1:16:16

rod our kencho here on Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine. Canter s.

1:16:21

Boy, does it get any better than this for the people in Utah

1:16:25

today? I mean, think about it. First of all, the weather,

1:16:28

beautiful day on the outside, a lot of sunshine, temperatures are warming

1:16:32

up. It's going to be a very very nice week. We look at

1:16:35

our mountains. We've got plenty of stone and looks like we'll have plenty of

1:16:40

water for this summer. That always brings a smile to a lot of our

1:16:44

faces. And then we see these reports issues today. We start off first

1:16:47

of all with the Wall Street Journal this morning, the headline Utah's tech hub

1:16:53

powers America's hottest job market. According to the Wall Street Journal, The first

1:16:58

line in the article follow the mountains and sunshine for the best jobs in America.

1:17:03

Goes on to say Salt Lake City was the country's hottest job market last

1:17:09

year, followed by three cities in Florida. Jacksonville, Orlando and Orlando and

1:17:14

Tampa. Miami also made the top ten, making Florida the top state.

1:17:20

Now this according to this report today in the Wall Street Journal. And then

1:17:25

Utah was named today as the top ranked state for economic outlook. Are you

1:17:30

ready for this for the seventeenth year in a row. It was that announcement

1:17:34

made today by the American Legislative Exchange Council in its annual edition of Rich States

1:17:40

Port States. And joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk all about that

1:17:44

is the chief economist they're at the American Legislative Exchange Council to tell us all

1:17:48

about it is Jonathan Williams. Jonathan, how are you welcome back to the

1:17:51

Rod Arcuat show. So I'm doing great, Rod, great to be back

1:17:56

with you, and greetings from the land to make the leave out here in

1:17:59

Washington. What a day for Utah. You get this report in the Wall

1:18:02

Street Journal, you get your report that was release today. I would say

1:18:06

Utah's doing fairly well, wouldn't you, Jonathan? Well, absolutely, We're

1:18:12

big fans of the record of just continual success now for seventeen years running in

1:18:16

our Rich States, Poor States report. Congratulations to my good friends sent at

1:18:19

President Stuart Adams and Speaker Schultz and all the legislators that have worked hard to

1:18:25

get this done over the years. But I will say one thing Ronald taking

1:18:28

a point of personal privilege. We agree with the Wall Street Journal, They're

1:18:31

right on. But we were for Utah before it was cool to be for

1:18:34

Utah seventeen years ago, and I'm proud to say our projections came true and

1:18:39

you are leading the nation in terms of economic opportunity. Boy, you were

1:18:42

way ahead of the game for a long long time, Johnathan, As you

1:18:45

point out what, in your opinion, is the formula that's working in this

1:18:48

state right now, Why are we doing so well? Well, it's a

1:18:53

lot of great things. I was just doing an interview here in Washington a

1:18:56

few minutes ago and went on for about ten minutes about how the Utah resume

1:19:00

has been built over the years of limited government and low taxes and respect for

1:19:04

individual liberty, and you know, this idea that we shouldn't be too beholden

1:19:09

on the federal government. I mean financial ready Utah and my good friend Ken

1:19:13

Ivory and just leading the way to make sure that Utah doesn't hits its wag

1:19:15

into this real disaster that's happening with the federal budget. But I mean this

1:19:19

commitment to continuing to cut taxes to respect the growth and not grow government too

1:19:27

large relative to the size of the private economy and to at the end of

1:19:30

the day, have the right incentives in place when it comes to lower taxes

1:19:33

and lower regulation for businesses of all types to thrive. I mean, it

1:19:38

is an incredible success story and one that I think states all across the country

1:19:43

are looking to emulate, because you know, it's not just our ranking or

1:19:45

other academic papers that are out there, the proofs in the pudding. I

1:19:48

mean, as you know well, Brod, Utah one of the fastest growing

1:19:51

states in America and one of the key factors now seventeen years in a row

1:19:56

that we measure is how much Americans vote with their feet and move away from

1:20:00

high tax states and move to states for economic opportunity. And that's exactly the

1:20:05

formula that Utah offers. Jonathan. How big of a challenge is it for

1:20:10

Utah, because as you mentioned, we're a growing state. We have a

1:20:13

lot of people wanting to move to the state. Jobs are being created in

1:20:15

the state. Of course, that leads to more pressure sometimes for more government

1:20:20

services, larger government. How I mean, what kind of pressure do we

1:20:25

face and in your opinion, how have we been able to hold the line

1:20:29

on this well, I think you've had some real forethought and individuals and leaders

1:20:35

that have gone before. I think of my friend Dan william Quest too a

1:20:40

decade plus ago, thinking about things that many other states hadn't even thought about

1:20:44

in reforming the state pension system to make sure that you don't face the billions

1:20:48

upon billions of dollars in these massive unfunded liabilities that are plaguing states like California

1:20:54

and Illinois across the country, threatening bankruptcy in some municipalities. And when business

1:21:00

and individuals look at where to investor where to move, they're not just looking

1:21:03

at the current trajectory or current policy. They're looking at expectations of the future.

1:21:09

And I think Utah has always been forward looking. They continue a good

1:21:13

policy mix in the current law, but they're always looking for ways to a

1:21:16

avoid over reliance on federal government be avoid the disaster of unfunded liabilities. And

1:21:23

of course, I think a trailblazing law that Utah has had on the books

1:21:26

is Truth and Taxation on property taxes to make sure that assessments that are hitting

1:21:30

taxpayers, while it's hard right now all across the country, are something that

1:21:34

can be kept in check Jonathan, I don't know if you have the numbers

1:21:38

in front of you, but are other Mountain West states doing as well as

1:21:42

Utah? Is the region of the Mountain West doing very well in this regard,

1:21:45

except for maybe Colorado, that's right, I mean, the Mountain West

1:21:50

has become very competitive. In fact, in this year's Rich States Poor States,

1:21:55

Idaho ranked number two, in Arizona ranked number three. So there you

1:21:59

have it. They have a trifective Mountain West states that are looking at ways

1:22:03

to become more competitive. I mean, as you probably know, Arizona's even

1:22:06

surpassed Utah, and the fact that it has a flat tax that is now

1:22:12

only two point five percent on personal income. Idaho has also been creating a

1:22:16

tax cuts went to a flat tax to MAT's Utah. And you know,

1:22:19

when you're at the top of these standings and you look at professional sports or

1:22:24

anything else, all competitors eyes are trained on you. And that's a good

1:22:28

thing because Utah is living the nation. But it's also, to your point,

1:22:31

can be a challenge to stay at number one, especially when you have

1:22:34

the huge population. It closes how do you provide those core government services without

1:22:40

allowing government to grow too large? Is there a sleeper out there, a

1:22:43

state out there that we should keep our eye on right now as they try and move up in the rankings here? Jonathan, Well, you know,

1:22:49

I think that North Carolina has done a tremendous job over the years, moving

1:22:54

from number twenty six about ten years ago to number four today. So they've

1:22:59

been one of the big I guess winners over the years. Indiana has been a state that's moved up tremendously and also now in the top five. And

1:23:05

so you know, I would keep our eyes on Idaho, on Arizona,

1:23:10

on North Carolina, Indiana, And of course there's always the powerhouse states like

1:23:14

Texas and Florida, very large states to continue to do big things. Texas

1:23:18

work was one of the big winners in this report, moving from number thirteen

1:23:21

to number six this year due to an eighteen billion dollar tax cet on property

1:23:27

tax. Wow. So there's a lot of competition out there, and that's

1:23:30

a good thing inherently. Yeah, sure is we all benefits from that competition,

1:23:33

Jonathan, great report, Thanks for joining us tonight. Paula. Was

1:23:38

great to be with you. Congrats to you and the people of Utah for

1:23:41

this incredible honor. All right, Jonathan Williams, chief Economists with the American

1:23:45

Legislative Exchange Council, joining us here on our Newsmaker line and the rod Arc

1:23:48

Catcher. I mean good news for Utah. We are doing very, very

1:23:50

well. And I know we have challenges. We know there's some people in

1:23:55

this state who say, well, we aren't doing enough. We're ignoring this,

1:23:58

we're ignoring that. But overall, this is a great state to live.

1:24:01

It is growing. There are people who care about this community. That's

1:24:04

why I love it here. I think that's why you love it here.

1:24:08

No place is perfect, never will be. But I tell you what,

1:24:12

folks, it is a good state. And when you see you know,

1:24:15

I know lawmakers I agree or disagree with them on some things at times,

1:24:18

but I think they do look out for the ability of people who live in

1:24:24

Utah to be successful and to keep the taxes low, to keep government smart.

1:24:30

Does that be small all the time, but it has to be smart. That's what I've always thought, and to be able to move this state

1:24:34

forward. And this is just another good report, seventeen years in a row.

1:24:39

Pretty amazing. All right. More coming down right here on the rod

1:24:41

arquetcho and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs The Rodar Cat Show on

1:25:05

Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs. Yeah, all right, welcome

1:25:18

back, final half hour to route our Ken show with you today. One

1:25:21

of the stories we haven't touched on today, I'll just mention him very very

1:25:25

briefly, is a veteran editor at NPR is really spilling the secrets about NPR.

1:25:32

This is, without a doubt a very leftist media outlet. They're proud

1:25:38

of it. If you raise any questions about it, they will condemn you.

1:25:42

And always watching Fox News earlier today, one Williams, who is a

1:25:46

Fox News contributor, a Democrat, was once on NPR, but he was

1:25:51

fired for the most athenine reason in the world. He made a comment and

1:25:57

he was forced out. And this veteran editor, who will see how long

1:26:00

he last there, wrote a very telling piece today on what's going on with

1:26:04

National Public Radio. Now, you know, my only beef with NPR is

1:26:11

to compete in the free marketplace. You know, they claim they don't get

1:26:15

that much money from you and I as American taxpayers. And the Heill did

1:26:23

a real interesting report years ago on this, and they found out how much

1:26:28

money they get from US taxpayers. So when you hear them say, well,

1:26:31

we're supported by local organizations and we get very little money from taxpayers,

1:26:39

they're wrong. And that's why I You know, if they want to compete

1:26:43

in the free market, go ahead, But for PBS and NPR to use

1:26:48

my tax dollars to tell me time and time again everything is wrong in America.

1:26:56

I wish there would be an effort in Congress to try and put a

1:26:59

stop to this. After this report today from this insider, it should all

1:27:02

right, let's talk about the economy. You know, Joe Biden is constantly

1:27:10

telling us that since he's been in office, his administration has created fifteen million

1:27:15

new jobs. We know that it is not the case, and if you

1:27:18

dig in the numbers, it really does show you that Joe Biden is cooking

1:27:25

the books trying to convince the American people that the economy is strong and we're

1:27:30

all doing very very well. Well, is it an issue of messaging.

1:27:34

Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about that right now is Sarah Bedford.

1:27:38

Sarah works for the Washington Examiner. You may see her occasionally on Fox

1:27:42

News with their contributions there. Sarah thank you. You know, when you

1:27:45

talk about messaging, I am still trying to figure out what message the Biden

1:27:51

administration right now during this campaign for another return to the White House, what

1:27:57

message they have, What exactly is their message at this point, Sarah?

1:28:01

Have they been able to figure it out yet? I don't think they've really

1:28:04

settled on a message that's resonated on the economy. Means that is evident in

1:28:10

the fact that so many voters are still telling posters that the economy is one

1:28:15

of their top worries. They don't feel good about it, and those economic

1:28:18

concerns are feeding into Joe Biden's really consistently low approval ratings. But I do

1:28:27

think that the problem here is that the Biden White House has treated the economy

1:28:30

as a messaging problem and not a policy problem. They think if they can

1:28:34

find the right talking points, the right slogans are branding Bionomics comes to mind,

1:28:41

then people will stop worrying about the economy. But they haven't really spent

1:28:45

nearly as much time and energy trying to come up with policies that would actually

1:28:49

change the status quo. Sarah, What are they missing? What are they

1:28:54

not seeing that the rest of Americans are seen well. I think the Biden

1:28:59

White House and and its allies have been guilty of sort of cherry picking numbers

1:29:03

and figures that show the economy is healthy and in a lot of ways,

1:29:08

in at least a macroeconomic sense, that is true. Right, the jobs

1:29:12

market has recovered nicely, there are some of those stronger macroeconomic numbers, but

1:29:18

the day to day realities of Americans are still really challenging. And the fact

1:29:24

of the matter is that a lot of the typical Democratic voters, you know,

1:29:28

upper middle class and wealthy, elite, highly educated Americans, are more

1:29:34

insulated from economic challenges like inflation or the rising costs of rent and housing.

1:29:43

The people who are feeling that are working class voters and who are increasingly voting

1:29:48

Republican. And so the Democrats are having a hard time messaging to the people

1:29:54

who are feeling economic strain the most, Sarah, Are they too obsessed deal

1:29:58

with Donald Trump? Is it all about Trump? And they're kind of letting

1:30:00

these other issues kind of sit on the wayside. They'll talk about Trump and

1:30:03

hope to win with an anti Trump message. Continuing into twenty twenty four,

1:30:09

that is certainly a risk they are running right now the Hillary Clinton playbook right

1:30:15

structuring an entire presidential campaign around this idea that Donald Trump is unfit for office

1:30:20

and too dangerous to be the president without actually speaking to the concerns that are

1:30:26

motivating voters. That's the campaign that we're seeing from Joe Biden right now,

1:30:30

to the extent that he's running on anything, it's this idea that Donald Trump

1:30:33

is somehow a threat to democracy. That's not one that seems to resonate outside

1:30:39

of the left, the people who are always going to vote Democrat no matter

1:30:42

what. It's not according to you know, polls and research out there,

1:30:47

it's not resonating necessarily with independent voters. And that's a risk that the Biden

1:30:51

administration is leaving a big vulnerability there. But some Democrats are recognizing this,

1:30:58

are are they not? Sarah? I mean, is it? Ron Klain

1:31:00

over the weekend said inflation is a problem, and we need to confront inflation.

1:31:03

If the administration wants to kind of ignore it if they possibly can.

1:31:09

Well, we've heard that periodically from them, right Oh, we need to

1:31:12

speak to Americans concerns about inflation. We need to address this in our messaging.

1:31:16

But again, you don't hear the Biden White House saying we need to

1:31:20

do something to fix it. We need to brain in the spending that has

1:31:26

caused all of these infulationary pressures. You know, we need to stop pouring

1:31:30

free money onto this economy. That's not what we're hearing from the Biden administration.

1:31:35

It's just again more ways to sort of spin the inflation rather than fix

1:31:41

the inflation. Is the media challenging the administration on this messaging? I mean,

1:31:45

you certainly raised some very valid questions, but as the rest of the

1:31:48

media asking the White House, why are you not talking more about the economy,

1:31:53

Why do you insist that Bidenomics is working? Some of them numbers may

1:31:57

show it is, but Americans don't feel it. Where is the disconnect?

1:32:00

Do I want to asking them those questions? You know what I see the

1:32:03

media doing and asking is well, it's just a real baffling mystery why Americans

1:32:09

don't think the economy is doing any better. I see a lot of pieces

1:32:14

out of mainstream media really trying to solve this mystery of why that disconnect still

1:32:18

exists. And I think that is frankly because journalists are often also insulated from

1:32:25

these issues. Wealth will will shield people from feeling the real effects of inflation,

1:32:31

which is hitting the working class the hardest right now. Carvel famously said,

1:32:38

ninety two is the economy stupid. We've seen polls showing immigration is still

1:32:43

very much on the minds of American voters. But will it come down again

1:32:46

to the economy? Do you think on November fifth, Sarah at this point,

1:32:51

you know what's interesting. I can't remember an election in my lifetime where

1:32:56

immigration has been so such a big issue but actually motivating voters. I mean,

1:33:01

some voters will say that immigration is important to them, but for voters

1:33:05

to be telling posters such a substantial number of voters to be telling polsters that

1:33:10

immigration is the deciding factor in their vote, not just people who live in

1:33:14

border states, but people all across the country, that's a pretty huge seismic

1:33:19

thing to be happening right now. And there's really no way for Joe Biden

1:33:24

to run a successful campaign on immigration because his policies are so clearly to blame

1:33:30

for the migration crisis. That's why I don't think you see Biden talking about

1:33:32

it a lot. The less that immigration is in the news, the better

1:33:36

it is for Joe Biden. Yeah, I would agree with you on that

1:33:39

one, Sarah. The less immigration is in the news is better for Joe

1:33:43

Biden. But the Democrats need to pound on that message right up until November

1:33:47

fifth, in my opinion, Thank you Sarah Bedford with the Washington Examiner talking

1:33:51

about the Biden and they're confused messaging right now. Who was it the other

1:33:57

day? Donald Brazil, who is a long time Democratic strategists that recall work

1:34:02

closely with the Clinton administration, was on Fox News for a while. I

1:34:06

think she's on CNN or NBABC. I'm not sure which one anymore. You

1:34:11

lose track of these things. But she said something very telling the other day

1:34:15

about Joe Biden and the fact that nobody listens to him anymore. You know,

1:34:25

he's out there, he's on the campaign stump, but there's really nobody

1:34:30

listening to him anymore. Simply they because they believe that he's not shooting straight

1:34:34

with the American people. They disagree with his policies. I mean, it's

1:34:40

pretty amazing. And when you have someone like Donna Brazil say nobody is listening

1:34:44

to Joe Biden anymore, it's kind of telling, isn't it all? Right,

1:35:02

welcome back. Final few minutes of the rod Our Catcher with you on

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this Tuesday. Hey, guess what the voice made it almost we're near the

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Radio one oh five nine k and RS. Now, I got to play

1:36:35

this again because it's so enjoyable. I mentioned that. You know, there's

1:36:41

a lot of reaction yesterday to the total eclips. Animals went crazy at zoos.

1:36:45

But talk about going crazies. There's a weatherman who works at NBC five,

1:36:51

that's a television station in Chicago. His name is Pete Sachs. He

1:36:57

was in Indianapolis yesterday because that's where the total eclipse took place. As it

1:37:01

started happening, well, he went kind of crazy. You gotta listen to

1:37:04

this because real joy when he sees the total eclips. Oh my gosh,

1:37:10

Oh my gosh, we're almost there. We're almost there. It's no talent.

1:37:15

This is just amazing. I can't believe I'm able to bring the studio.

1:37:18

I'm taking my glasses off for a moment because you can actually look up

1:37:23

and see we're seeing kind of a diamond the fact, but we could see

1:37:27

the halo, we could see the corona around the sun. The stars are

1:37:30

starting to come out. This is just an amazing sight. I just watch

1:37:34

for a moment while I gather myself because I'm just in all the site that

1:37:40

I'm seeing right now. Yeah, you gotta love it. I mean,

1:37:43

for a guy to get that excited about a total eclips, good for him.

1:37:46

And there are a lot of people out there. Yesterday I was watching

1:37:49

it the monitors here in the studio. It was pretty amazing. We all

1:37:54

came together for just a couple of minutes, and that's fascinating as we watch

1:37:58

that total eclips. All right, that does it for us tonight, as

1:38:00

we say each and every night, head up, shoulders back, May God

1:38:04

bless you and your family in this great country. Have ours wing man Wednesday.

1:38:08

It all starts tomorrow at four Greig and I we'll talk to you then.

1:38:12

Have a good evening.