0:00

Listen and you will know. First of all, if you haven't heard this

0:04

yet, I love it. Rod Arcat on Talk Radio one five nine o

0:07

KNRS. I absolutely love people who are passionate about something. They truly believe

0:32

it. I mean really, they take their passion about a certain issue,

0:42

a certain policy, something in their lives, and they take it to the

0:46

extreme. And that's why I love this story. As we start off the

0:50

show today, there is a man from Texas. He's decided he's going to

0:54

run for president of the United States. Okay, good for him, great,

0:58

But he decided running for president after changing his name to literally anyone Else.

1:04

That's his new name, literally anybody else, and it is not an

1:11

April Fool's joke. Else formerly known as Dustin Ebe, is an Army veteran

1:17

and a seventh grade math teacher. He's thirty five. He has a Texas

1:21

driver's license to prove his name change and set. His dissatisfaction with Joe Biden

1:26

and former President Donald Trump as candidates for president prompted his move. It says

1:34

this. He says, in a landscape marred by the shadows of corruption,

1:38

partisan gridlock, it's time to break free from familiar shackles and demand something different.

1:44

I believe that humans are not only rational but also moral beings, driven

1:49

by a deep seated sense of fairness and justin justice. And he says,

1:53

I don't care about winning the oval office, but it's important that the message

1:57

gets through the powers that be who decide who ends up on the ballot.

2:01

Else said, Ultimately, that's what I'm fighting for, so you may see

2:06

this. I don't know if he'll get on the ballot here in the state of Utah. I highly doubt it. But if you ever see the name

2:12

of a candidate called literally anybody else, realize it's true because he's changed his

2:16

name and he is now trying to get on the presidential ballot. How are

2:21

you, everybuddy. Welcome to the rod ARCUATCHO on this very busy What a

2:23

gorgeous Tuesday afternoon along the watch at front. You just heard Chase's Forecast's going

2:29

to be nice for the next several days, of course, until we get to the weekend, and then we've got some rain or snow. But make

2:34

sure you get outside and absolutely enjoy it. And what a show we have

2:38

for you today. Coming up later on tonight, all American swimmer Riley Gaines,

2:44

who is going to be speaking up to the University of Utah in a

2:46

couple of days, will join us on the show later tonight and talk about

2:51

her battle to protect women's sports. Riley will join us coming up a little

2:54

bit later on in the show, so we invite you to stay tuned.

2:57

Also, we're going to be talking about the kind of courage I think it

3:01

is really going to take to win back our country. We'll talk about that.

3:06

We'll talk about all of a sudden this is an interesting change that we're

3:09

starting to see in this country. More and more college bound students are opting

3:16

out of a university education and going to the vocational trades, and we'll talk

3:24

about that why that is taking place. Also, a big win yesterday for

3:29

the coal industry here in the state of Utah with Rocky Mountain Power announcing they're

3:31

going to keep on producing power with coal through twenty forty two, which is

3:37

a big win for the state of Utah. We'll start to a state lawmaker

3:40

who is behind that effort. So we've got a lot to get to today.

3:44

As always, we invite you to be a part of the program.

3:46

Eighty eight eight five seven eight zero one zero, triple eight five seven eight

3:50

zero one zero, And on your cell phone, all you do is have

3:53

to dial pound two fifty and simply say, hey, Rod, Now,

3:55

what is it about Robert F. Kennedy, who we've had on the show

4:00

a few times. Utah is the only state I think where he is now

4:03

officially on the ballot. But what is it about RFK Junior that scares the

4:10

living daylights out of the Biden administration and the Biden campaign to put you know,

4:15

old Joe back in the White House in twenty twenty four. You know,

4:20

the the Biden campaign at this point is doing everything they can to take

4:28

RFK Junior out politically. However, RFK Junior is not putting up with it,

4:34

you know they you know, third parties have always been annoying thorns in

4:40

the side of Democrats and Republicans. And I love third parties. I think

4:44

they're great. Bush of course, Bush forty one, George H. W.

4:47

Bush blamed Ross Bureau for torpedoing his nineteen ninety two reelection. There could

4:53

be an argument there. And now Joe Biden sees RFK as a threat in

4:59

what is a expected to be a very close election, now they can hate

5:02

him even more. I don't know if you heard this today. Basically,

5:08

RFK Junior was on CNN last night and he declared that Joe Biden is a

5:14

greater threat to our country and democracy than Donald Trump. I mean, CNN

5:18

tried to debate him, but he turned it around in epic fashion, and

5:23

his reasoning was very very simple. List of what he had to say on

5:27

CNN last night. When people talk about the threat of democracy that Trump poses,

5:30

do you really think that that is is an equal Yeah, listen,

5:35

I can make the argument President Biden is much worse threat to democracy. And

5:43

the reason for that is President Biden is the first candidate in history, the

5:46

first president history that has used the federal agencies to sensor political speech. So

5:53

the's opponent, I you know, I can say that because I just want

5:56

a case in the Federal Court of Appeals now before the Supreme shows that he

6:01

started censoring not just me, for thirty seven hours after he took the other

6:05

office, he was censoring me. No president in the country has ever done

6:09

that. The greatest threat democracy is not somebody who questions election returns, but

6:15

a president United States. He used the power of his Office to force the

6:18

social media company's Facebook, Instagram, Twitter to open a portal and give the

6:25

access to that portal to the FBI. The CIA is the irs de sisa,

6:30

the NIH to censor his political critics. As in Biden for the first

6:35

first president of history to use the secret his power over the Secret Service to

6:41

deny Secret Service protection to one of his political opponents for political reasons. He's

6:46

weaponizing a federal agency. RFK Junior is absolutely spot on with his claim.

6:51

You know, the Democrats are out there shouting from the rooftops that the re

6:56

election of Donald Trump back into the White House in coming up in what I

7:00

think two hundred and sixteen days now, is that Donald Trump is really a

7:04

threat to democracy. But rf K Junior and a lot of common sense,

7:10

fair minded Americans realize that it is Joe Biden who is a greater threat.

7:15

I mean, you know, RFK Junior just listed a couple of things already.

7:18

Another one, the one that gets me is that he totally ignores the

7:23

Supreme Court when it comes to student loan forgiveness. The Court has basically said,

7:29

mister President, you cannot do that. But what does Joe Biden do

7:32

him? And his staff because it is one of their attempts to win over

7:36

young voters for the twenty twenty four election. Found a workaround, and it

7:42

seems almost daily now they're announcing a new program in which more young Americans who

7:46

are carrying a lot of student loan debt that debt will be relieved. And

7:51

talk about a threat to democracy. He ignores the courts, He refuses to

7:57

work with lawmakers. He says he wants to. He can solve the boar

8:00

crisis very easily with a couple of executive actions. So who is the greater

8:03

threat to democracy at this point? I think you have to agree with me

8:07

that it is one Joe Biden and not Donald J. Trump. I'm just

8:11

leaking right now. Trump is rallying in Wisconsin after a big gathering in Michigan

8:16

today as well. Now, the other interesting thing about this upcoming campaign is

8:20

you now have donors who are starting to think, well, maybe we should

8:26

be a little concerned about what's going on with Joe Biden in the twenty twenty

8:30

four election. Here's an example. His name is John Morgan. Now.

8:33

John Morgan is a top Democratic fundraiser and an attorney in central Florida. He

8:41

revealed his nerve surrounding the twenty twenty four election, but he said he believed

8:46

the Democrats now understand the political landscape better than they did in twenty sixteen.

8:52

He said, I love this that Democrats had too much confidence going into twenty

9:00

sixteen. Is they were not prepared or expecting to lose to Donald Trump.

9:03

Buddy says that has now changed and they're well aware of what mister Trump can

9:09

do and they are preparing for it, although they are a bit nervous right

9:13

now. Well, what may happen on November fifth, it's going to be

9:16

It's just going to be a fascinating and electioneer, of course, and we'll

9:20

have the latest for you right here on the rod Oar Cat Show and throughout the day on Talk Radio one oh five nine K and R. S Now,

9:26

when we come back, what is it going to take? What kind

9:28

of courage are we going to have to find to win back our country?

9:35

It won't be easy, but we can do it. We'll talk about that

9:37

coming up here on the Rodar Ketcho. Great to be with you on this

9:41

very nice Tuesday afternoon. If you want to be a part of the program

9:43

again. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero, triple A five

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seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty

9:50

and simply say hey rod More coming up right here on the rod Ar Ketcho

9:54

and Talk Radio one oh five nine K and r F. Welcome back to

10:15

the rod Ar Kent Show on this busy Tuesday afternoon here on Utah's Talk Radio

10:18

one oh five nine kN alright, prgram No. Coming up a little bit

10:22

later on in the show, Riley Gaines, well known All American swimmer,

10:26

now leading an effort to keep men who think they're women out of women's sports.

10:31

She'll be speaking up of the University of Utah on what is It I

10:35

Think it is? This Thursday. She will join us on the show a

10:39

little bit later on and talk about her battle to protect women's sports and what

10:43

she'll say at that gathering up the University of Utah. Riley Gaines, we'll

10:46

join us a little bit later on in the show. We invite you to stay tuned and enjoy. You know, you have to admit that America is

10:52

a unbelievable, fantastic country. I mean, you know, we're able to

10:56

put a man on the moon. There's so many wonderful things that this country

11:01

is responsible for. But now we have some real challenges in this country,

11:05

and there's a great fear that this country is headed in the wrong direction.

11:09

So what is it going to take to win back our country? Joining us

11:15

on our Newsmaker line right now is Alan Pfeiffer. Alan has a website is

11:18

called one plus one equals to dot com. He's an author, a thinker,

11:22

a strategy just also a contributor to American Thinker, and he wrote about

11:26

this idea of what it's going to take to get our country back. Alan. Thank you very much for joining us. Alan, you write something that

11:31

I found interesting. You said America is ripe for a new kind of revolution

11:37

of ideas, re engagement and pushback. Has that revolution started? We're at

11:41

a tipping point, you know. I think that we've been on the edge

11:46

for years. I've been really really surprised that there hasn't been more pushback than

11:50

there has been. I think that the other side has found a way that

11:56

has many ways castrated people like like I, like myself and others who consider

12:05

themselves to be conservatives, and there's going to be some tipping point that occurs

12:11

where it's a bridge too far, it inevitably happens. Alan, You write

12:16

about the do your own thing generations that we've lived through. What what have

12:22

What is that approach done to this country in your opinion? The absence of

12:28

strife, of individual strife, you know, not not having what wars,

12:33

not worrying about eating the next meal, not worrying about medical costs, you

12:39

know, not having to pay attention to families. All these things have softened

12:43

us up to a degree that we did we've never had before. I mean,

12:48

so many people came to this country and essentially perished in the process of

12:52

becoming successful Americans, assimilated Americans. That doesn't happen anymore. That's exactly what

12:58

we're seeing with the people coming across the border. Not to change the subject,

13:03

well, let's talk about coming across the border. You reference a comment

13:05

made by the President of Mexico in his sixty minutes interview the other day,

13:09

which basically he isn't he trying to blackmail America in many ways? Ellen,

13:15

Could you imagine this statement by a head of state ten years ago, one

13:20

hundred years ago. I think this. You know, the US must commit

13:24

twenty billion a year to poor countries in Latin America or else, We're going

13:28

to send more and more people to your borders. This is this is this

13:37

man oh Obador believes that he can on his own change American policy because of

13:46

the leadership America being so weak. He has made that calculation, and he's

13:52

not wrong. That's the scary part you talk about as well. You raise

13:56

a very good question. I wonder this myself, Allen the American people,

14:01

those who still believe in the goodness of this country, common sense, fair

14:03

minded Americans. Do they still believe we can save the Republic? Are we

14:07

working hard enough to save the Republic? In your opinion? Oh, of

14:11

course not. Tactics matter. Racism has cowed the bulk of the producer class.

14:18

The people who have to lose the most are on tenderhooks as they as

14:24

they are afraid to say things and do things that might make them stand out

14:30

as being racist. You know, this whole, this whole conversation about white

14:37

people in America today, the great Reset and all that's been poop pooed in

14:41

the mainstream media is actually happening. And it's not a question of racism except

14:48

in being having the finger pointed at you. You know, I'm not racist.

14:54

I don't have any friends who are racist. But I'm called a racist.

14:58

I'm called the systemic racist. Right mm hmm. Alan you to say

15:01

there are three things that we need to do to win, outline those three

15:07

things and why you think they're so important. Sure. One, I think

15:13

it's time that we realize that without control of the better control of the press

15:20

in the sense of Fox, can't do it alone. There are five or

15:26

six media outlets, including social media and specific that reached the vast majority of

15:33

people in this country, and they tell a message that is fundamentally untrue.

15:39

We need to put our money where our mouth is, and we need rupert

15:43

Murraar can't do this alone. There needs to We need to put money towards

15:46

buying more media access so that we can tell our stories, tell our story

15:52

and be the rebuttal to what we're hearing every night or not hearing. Even

15:58

more important in media matters, how often do we hear that there's zero zero

16:06

minutes on major stories that you hear in conservative press that are meaningful that don't

16:11

appear at all on any of the mainstream media. So that's that's number one.

16:15

We need. We need that ability to get our message across to people

16:18

who are not receiving that message today. Second one, what's the number?

16:22

Two? White people must come out of their coma uh. And we need

16:27

the leaders to explain that if we don't, if we don't in fact,

16:32

engage the enemy, and the enemy in this case, and in my opinion,

16:36

is Marxism progressivism. You know, they change the name, but it's

16:40

still the same playbook. So we have to engage the enemy that is trying

16:45

to destroy America as we know it. And then the third thing is the

16:49

most important. We can't do anything without a leader who is willing and able

16:56

to communicate the message and do the hard things that everybody he says you can't

17:00

or shouldn't do. You know, we have an improvement. We had an

17:06

imperfect president in Donald Trump, and at the same time he had to deal

17:11

with what, in my opinion, was a nightmare scenario with COVID, but

17:17

he was He was successful in doing so many things that he doesn't get credit

17:22

for. There is nobody else that's out there today. Trump has to be

17:26

reinstated by virtue of winning in a landslide so that he gets the type of

17:34

mandate that is necessary to make fundamental changes in the direction this ship is going,

17:41

Alan, are you optimistic? I'm always optimistic. I'm very, very

17:47

lucky. You know, I'd like to you know, courage is it was

17:49

the whole outlook of this article, and I'm reminded of a Mark Twain Mark

17:57

Twain quote too much important days in your life, or the days you were

18:02

day when you were born, in the day you find out why. I've

18:07

always believed that it doesn't take everybody to agree. It takes a small preponderance

18:14

of the best thinkers and the people who are willing to risk their risk everything

18:19

for a country like America that's unique in this world. And in fact,

18:25

there are people who are like this, So why don't I'm very optimistic.

18:29

I don't know exactly when things will break our way, but perhaps this November

18:34

that's the start of a major change in how we look at America. Any

18:40

on our Newsmaker line, Alan Pfeiffer. Allan, of course, wrote a terrific article on the fact that we are going to have to have some courage

18:47

to take our country back, and that courage, I think begins with all

18:51

of us, including myself and you, out there getting involved in this election.

18:55

This year. I mean it can be as simple as running around in

18:59

the Hagen's, you know, door posters or door leaflets on your neighbors to

19:03

get a vote out for candidate that you like. That's how we that's how

19:07

we fight back. And the courage comes from just actually getting involved. And

19:11

Alan wrote a terrific article on this. He is a contributor to American Thinker.

19:15

And if you want to learn more about what Alan has to say,

19:18

he can go to his website one plus one equals two dot com. That's

19:22

one plus one equals two dot com. More the rod Arkhow headed your way

19:27

on this Tuesday afternoon right here on Utah's Talk radio one oh five nine k

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n R s un stage a dirt road please as long as a long check

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radio The rod Archet Show on Talk Radio one oh five KNRS just a program

20:07

note for you as you're working your way home tonight. Riley Gaines, well

20:11

known all American swimmer, now in the battle to protect women's sports, speaking

20:15

up the University of Utah. In a couple of days. She will be

20:18

joining us on the show a little bit later on tonight. So we invite

20:22

you to say two and that's Riley Gaines coming up here on the rod ARCATCHO.

20:27

Well, I think it's it's safe to say, and you may have

20:32

found this out as a homeowner. American needs more plumbers, more electricians.

20:37

And guess who's responding gen Z. That generation is answering the call. Long

20:42

beset by a labor crunch, the skilled workers are newly appealing to the youngest

20:48

part of American workers, many of whom are choosing to leave the college pass

20:53

something very unusual. Well, let's talk more about it right now with our

20:56

next guest. He is Professor Adam Carrington and an associate professor at Politics at

21:02

Hillsdale College. Adam, thanks for joining us tonight on the show. There

21:06

was an article today, as a matter of fact, Adam, in the

21:08

Wall Street Journal that basically here's what it said. It said, how gen

21:12

Z is becoming the tool belt generation. What do you see out there?

21:18

Any surprise in that's happening, Adams, Yes, I think there's a negative

21:22

and a positive reason for this. The negative is just how unbelievably expensive college

21:27

has gotten way beyond a lot of people's normal means without taking on too much

21:32

debt. And also a bit of the fact that a lot of colleges are

21:37

focusing on things they shouldn't be, as far as ideology, and often very

21:41

progressive ideology that doesn't necessarily comport with a lot of Americans values. But the

21:48

other is they're just seeing that even though many of us were told college is

21:52

really the only way to have a successful life, it's what everyone should want,

21:56

they're really seeing that that's not true. That people can make good livings,

22:00

raise their families, live in good communities, and have the dignity of

22:06

working with their hands with a lot of jobs like being an electrician and plumber

22:10

and other things. So it's really elevating the dignity of work in a way

22:14

and in a broader way than it was before as well. So both those negative and positive elements. This is really a change in attitude, though,

22:19

isn't it, Adam, Because I grew up in that generation that you just

22:22

described, you have to go to college, you have to get a degree,

22:26

you have to work to be able to afford a living, and a vocational education or working in the trades was never really emphasized. Are you surprised

22:33

that shift has changed, not in the sense that it's come. I didn't

22:41

know when it might come, but the idea that that was the only path

22:47

to success, I think really overly narrowed what human beings experience in life.

22:53

And you really just can't write off the dignity of work that one can get

22:59

from working with their hands, that one can get in those more vocational areas.

23:03

So I think that eventually people were going to realize that that was too

23:07

narrow. That doesn't mean college is a bad thing. It's a good thing

23:10

for certain people. But I think that there we were due for that course

23:14

correction because in human history that was just too narrow a view of what human

23:18

success and human ability can look like. You also write at them, I

23:22

didn't even realize this, And you write about this in your article today about

23:27

the desire to avoid the duldrums of work in an office. I mean,

23:32

I work in a studio in an office each and every day. This gives

23:36

people, the new generation, an opportunity to work outside the office and do

23:40

different things. How much of a fact does that play into what we're seeing

23:44

taking place. I think it plays a lot. And I too work in

23:48

an office. I'm in my office right now. I do a lot of

23:51

work on a computer screen. I find that very fulfilling for me. But

23:56

that again just isn't how everyone operates. And there are people who like to

24:02

get out and do physical things again, work with their hands, work with

24:04

strength, work with nature, be in different locations and not just one particular

24:11

one for office work or something. And again, I think this really is

24:17

just pulling in those people and not demeaning what they want, not demeaning how

24:22

they operate, but saying you are a valuable part of our economy, You

24:27

are a valuable part of our communities, and we need to recognize the dignity

24:32

of your contribution to our common good in a way that maybe those older views

24:37

you and I grew up with didn't do a good job of ascertaining and explaining.

24:42

We're talking right now with Adam Carrington. Adam is the associate professor of

24:47

Politics at Hillsdale College. Adam, let's talk about the political impact of this

24:52

change. What do you see thing? Are we going to see a political

24:55

shift because this change is starting to take place. I think it could lessen

25:00

some of our tensions, partisan tensions where there's really a class divide based on

25:07

who has a college degree and who doesn't, because there might be a more

25:10

common understanding of the different goods everyone is contributing, there might be less condescension

25:17

from the college educated side and maybe less frustration from those who are more blue

25:22

collar and getting these others educations. I would hope so. And I've even

25:26

seen some bipartisan decreasing of the emphasis on college degrees. The Democratic governor of

25:33

Pennsylvania recently lessened how many of the jobs and state government needed college degrees.

25:40

So the idea that there might be some bipartisan redignifying of those who have done

25:45

different education and vocational paths could maybe be a way of getting a little bit

25:52

of taking the temperature down in some of our partisanship. We'll see, but

25:55

I think it has that potential. This changed. How are our universe responding

26:00

to this? Do they see it taking place? And what impact is it

26:03

having on them? I think they're starting to And there's obviously serious financial trouble

26:11

that a lot of universities are in, and there is already going to be

26:15

a problem of after the Great Recession, a lot fewer people had children,

26:19

so when that generation comes of age to go to college, there'll just be

26:23

fewer people that could even choose college. But we'll see how they navigate this,

26:30

and I think there can be a refocus on what is a college education

26:34

for, taking it away from ideology, taking it away from making colleges too

26:41

much like you know, amenity filled, almost like luxury resorts, and get

26:47

back to what a real college education is about. And I think that could

26:51

be that the successful colleges will do that. I'm not going to say that's

26:55

going to be all of them, but I think the ones that are able to wade through this will rethink a world where everyone isn't being driven to them,

27:03

but they need to for good reasons, show people why they still matter.

27:07

Well, it sounds like, Adam, you're talking about it's time for

27:10

the universities and higher education institutions in this country to get back to the basics.

27:15

Is that what you're basically saying they need to do now? Yes,

27:18

get back to what does it mean to educate human beings and citizens that are

27:26

equipped to be good voters, good members of this country, good at their

27:32

work, and understand what it means to live life together. The old idea

27:37

of a liberal arts education being cultivating the entire person, but doing it in

27:42

the classroom and doing it with an idea of what are the things we're really

27:47

committed to as a just and right and a society that wants to see people

27:53

flourish. And I think we've many universities have gotten away from that re asking

27:57

what that looks like. And we have a whole history of it in our

28:02

past institutions, our founding institutions are founding of our universities. I think if

28:07

we look back to that, we'd really have a blueprint we could return to.

28:11

Professor Adam Carrington. Adam, thank you for joining USC is an associated

28:14

professor of Politics at Hellsdale College, talking about how gen Z is becoming the

28:19

tool belt generation. More coming up here on the rod ar Kencho and Utah's

28:23

Talk Radio one oh five Dying kN R S all right, welcome back to

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the rod our Kenchell with you on this Tuesday afternoon here on Utah's Talk Radio

28:44

one oh five. Dine Kay and RS. All right. They've improved airports

28:48

around the country at least you know, I was just through the Solaike International

28:52

Airport a couple of weeks ago, really really nice airport. Yeah, I

28:56

know they had a you know, people complain about the long walk and the

29:00

is that mad and they are ever expanding, So it's turned out to be

29:03

an ice airport. And you know, the airlines are doing a better job,

29:07

I think, get ending delays. But what is it about flying today

29:11

that is still such a pain in that you know what, the airports have

29:17

improved, delays are getting better. Is it all about the airplane? We'll

29:21

talk about that coming up and get your thoughts on that in the five o'clock

29:25

cour don't forget. Riley Gaines will join us later on in the show today.

29:29

She's going to be speaking up the University of Utah in a couple of days and we'll talk to her about her battle to protect women's sports. That's

29:36

coming up a little bit later on in the show today as well. You know, you hear these stories every day and you say to yourself, well,

29:41

it can't get any crazier than it is, But apparently we have.

29:45

I mean, this story may indicate, in my opinion, that we have

29:51

reached the peak of climate nuttery nutjobs. There is a new report out today

29:56

and it tells us that man made global warming is driving up prices. Man

30:07

made global warming is driving up prices. We've been assured that it's a serious,

30:15

real paper. I mean this is study. We thought at first of

30:17

all it was a parody, but it's not. Here's what the paper says,

30:21

or the study says, global warming and heat extremes to enhance inflationary pressures.

30:27

According to a peer reviewed study from the journal Communications, Earth and the

30:33

Environment. Now AXIOS, which is a website a news website, tells us

30:38

the study incorporated more than twenty seven thousand observations of monthly price increases across one

30:48

hundred and twenty one countries in the developed and developing worlds during the nineteen ninety

30:52

six to twenty twenty one period. From that, the authors were able to

30:57

determine, you're ready for this, that human caused climate change is likely to

31:04

worsen inflation. But it seems as if they had one eye closed as they

31:08

reached that conclusion. Had they both opened throughout, they would have agreed with

31:15

H. Sterling Burnett. He's with a Heartland Institute who said climate change has

31:19

absolutely nothing to do with it. Climate change doesn't print money, nor create

31:26

new programs or policies spending it. That is what's happening with climate change.

31:30

So when you hear this story that climate change and global warming is driving up

31:37

prices. You can just giggle yourself and say, oh, they've just reached

31:41

a new level of nuttiness, and I think they have. Well. Kudos

31:45

to Salt Lake City. We are the eighth healthiest city in America today.

31:52

When it comes to living your best life, location matter, some cities go

31:55

above and beyond to promote the well being well. A new study out today

32:00

shows that San Francisco, San Francisco, believe it or not, is the

32:05

healthiest city in the US today if you can protect yourself from crime. Of

32:09

course, researchers looked at everything from the cost of a doctor's visit, to

32:14

how many people are eating their fruits and veggies, to the number of physically

32:17

active adults. The result a fascinating snapshot of where in America the healthy life

32:23

is most accessible. San Francisco was right on top. As a matter of

32:28

fact, Honolulu play second. Seattle seemed a bit more balanced than San Francisco

32:34

and Honolulu, placing fifth overall in fitness, tenth in food, and eleventh

32:38

in green places. As a matter of fact, Salt Lake City came in

32:43

number eight one of the healthiest cities in America today. And we do I

32:45

mean not only Salt Lake City, but the entire state. I mean,

32:49

we have a beautiful outdoor. We have a lot of great outdoor activities that

32:54

we can get involved in. You can just take a beautiful hike if you're

32:58

into that kind of thing. I'm not, but a lot of peop bill

33:00

are and you can really enjoy a very, very healthy city. So kudos

33:04

to Salt Lake City. All right, coming up the five o'clock hour,

33:07

need your thoughts today on this. You know, I saw this this column

33:12

written by a gentleman today who's talking about flying in America today, and he

33:16

says, look, they've done a lot to improve airports. I mean,

33:21

for crying how loude you have some airports I think have swimming pools anymore.

33:23

Right, so the airport experience is fine. There are increased efforts to ending

33:30

delays. I think Salt Lake City is one of the top cities in America

33:32

today with the airport of not having delays. But people are still complaining about

33:37

flying. And this author says, it's all about the airplane, for crying

33:43

out loud. And we'll get your thoughts coming up in the five o'clock hour

33:45

as to that is, what is it about flying which used to be a

33:50

pleasure. Is it still that way today? That's coming up here on the

33:53

right our schedule. Thanks for joining us. Our number two is on its

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34:20

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com. You know, I marveled today. We'll talk about this in the

34:54

six o'clock hour tonight. But this article in the in the Tribune yesterday ca

35:00

across late yesterday and I love this headline in climate setback, Rocky Mountain now

35:06

says it plans to burn coal in Utah until twenty forty two. A climate

35:12

setback. Hmm could have been written by one of the environmental groups is that

35:15

a climate setback or a positive thing for the people here in the state of

35:20

Utah. We'll get into that in the six scock Cower. But I came

35:22

across this. You know, each and every day as we put the show

35:25

together, every day I go and ere goes through numerous various websites, aggregators

35:32

that collect a lot of stories from a lot of websites, or the websites

35:37

themselves. And I came across this article today and I found it kind of

35:40

interesting because I just recently had a chance to fly. My wife and I

35:46

and some of our kids took a trip down to San Diego, the People's

35:50

Republic of California. Just spend several days down in San Diego, which is

35:53

still one of the great cities in America today, and you know, the

35:59

flying experience for us was just fine. I can't recall a time where I've

36:04

had a bad flying experience. I've been lucky so far. Knock on wood

36:07

if we have any wood in the studio anymore. But you know, my

36:12

experiences in flying have been for the most part positive. But so I came

36:19

across this article today. Is written in a man by the name of Jim

36:23

soulish, and he wrote, here's the headline. Flying in America is pure

36:30

Hell Airlines. The fix is simple. So my question to you tonight is,

36:38

you know, I remember growing up as a kid. I'm I'm trying

36:42

to remember the first time I took up commercial flight. It may have been,

36:46

Yeah, it was probably the first time I went to school. I left Upstate New York, went to school down in Texas. That was my

36:52

first experience to fly. And you know, it was great. You know,

36:58

you're excited. You were a kid, you've never been on a big

37:00

airplane and you get to fly, and you know, it was kind of

37:05

an exciting event. And I bet it was. Remember the first time you

37:07

flew and what that experience was like. In over the years, I've done

37:13

a lot of flying in this business, and like I said, for the most part, I've enjoyed it. I haven't had too many problems. Maybe

37:22

one or two minor issues here, but nothing major, unlike I think what

37:27

a lot of people have experienced. What was the SAFT story yesterday or two

37:30

days ago where the toilet on a plane had backed up and for the entire

37:35

flight, all all the passengers could smell was you know that toilet that was

37:40

clogged up. What experience that would be. But the argument here that this

37:45

columnist makes is, you know, we we've done a lot over the years

37:51

to improve airports, and certainly we have a beautiful airport now at the Salt

37:55

Lake International Airport. I think they've done a terrific job with it. It

38:00

is a very nice airport. I know they're complaints from people who have to

38:05

walk from Concourse A to Concourse B. I understand that I've only had to

38:09

do it once. I didn't think it was that bad. But people who

38:12

do it all the time, you know, they complain about it. And

38:15

eventually, I think once the airport is finished, it's not there yet,

38:21

you know, you won't have that long of a walk. That appears to

38:24

be the biggest problem. And I can't you know, there are great restaurants

38:27

there, great shops there now, they've really done something to improve this all.

38:31

Like International Airport. I absolutely love the airport. I think it's just

38:36

fine. But you have airports. I mean there's an airport in a cutter

38:39

A, Qatar, whatever you want to call it, where airline passengers can

38:44

actually go swimming. I guess got a long flight you can go swimming in

38:47

Denver. I haven't been to Denver, but apparently they have amenities where they

38:53

are like three rooftop decks with fire pits. Apparently you must have a very

38:59

long deal to enjoy that. In Denver. You've got others that offer all

39:02

kinds of vending machines. So there's really a trend in airport design, and

39:08

people are finding airports to be very, very comfortable. Like I said,

39:13

I think Salt Lake is one of the best. Well, you know,

39:16

this columnist argues that you know, we can do the you know, cities

39:22

around the country, counties, whatever, can do whatever they want to make

39:28

airports as lovely as we like him to be. But this gentleman argues,

39:34

it is the airplanes where we have a problem, because, as he says,

39:39

flying in America is pure hell. What does he blame? He blames

39:47

the atmosphere within an airplane itself, beginning with number one, and this one

39:54

I'm going to agree with them on because I don't it's all about money with

39:59

the airlines. But he says, why do we have in America today and

40:04

when you fly today, seats that are smaller and passengers that are larger than

40:10

we ever have been, and he laid out the numbers. You know,

40:15

I Doug did some digging on this. I wanted to find out about this.

40:20

But do you know that seats have gone from eighteen inches to sixteen inches?

40:25

You know the width of a seat anymore. The distance between seats seatbacks

40:31

now averages twenty eight inches, twenty eight inches, down from thirty five inches

40:40

in nineteen seventy. He says. Meanwhile, passengers on average packed nearly thirty

40:47

extra pounds of body weight and gained in an inch in a height since nineteen

40:54

sixty. So we're taller, we're heavier, but the airline and the seats

41:00

on an airplane have shrunk and they're smaller while we've gotten bigger. And that's

41:07

his number one complaint. I mean, he said, think about this for a moment. In fifty years, he says, we can't improve the seats

41:15

in airplanes, We're only making them worse. Think about that eighteen inches to

41:22

sixteen inches, you know, and now the average distance between seats, it's

41:29

twenty eight inches. Were years ago it was thirty five inches. Wouldn't that

41:32

be nice to have that leg room now? He contrasts this, which is

41:37

interesting, I think in the sense that he says, look what's happened with

41:44

seats in our cars. The seats in his car back in nineteen seventy two

41:51

is a Chevy Nova, was about as comfortable as an old school mesh lawn

41:55

chair. Remember those? Right today? He points out that even mid price

42:01

cars come with seats as plush as lazy boys, outfitted with heaters and all

42:07

kinds of adjustments on your on your on your on your seats in some cars

42:14

you even have, they can heat up, they can cool down, as a matter of fact, So what is it about airplane seats? So he

42:21

says, you know, one of his recommendations, and then I want to open up to you and your phone calls on this today because I want to

42:28

I want your opinion if you think flying today as pleasure is as pleasurable as

42:35

it may have been ten to fifteen, even twenty years ago, because I'm

42:38

with this guy on the seats, I really am. I mean, you

42:43

know, for people who are just large human beings, and I have a

42:47

couple of three sons who are pretty big guys. Hughes describes us as you

42:52

know, vending machines with arms and legs. Seats are just difficult for people

43:00

anymore because of their you know, they've shrunk, and always pointed out they

43:07

have gotten smaller. And you know what it's all about. The more airlines

43:13

can cram people onto an airplane, the more money they actually make. And

43:19

he goes on to stage that you know you can pay a little extra and

43:22

maybe get a little extra leg room anymore. But he says, the one

43:27

thing that would make the flying experience so much more enjoyable today would be to

43:35

get rid of the crappy little seats. Take a look around at the rest

43:39

of the plane, a sea of beige plastic, low ceilings and crammed aisles

43:45

that even miniaturize food courts can't get through anymore. So his complaint, if

43:51

I was to summarize this tonight, now, I want to get your phone

43:53

calls eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven

43:58

o eight zero one zero on your cell phone, dial pound two to fifty and say, hey, Rod, has flying in America today become pure hell?

44:06

Not because of the airports, not because of the way the airlines may

44:09

treat you, but the plane itself. And sitting in that little dinky seat

44:15

for two three four nine, twelve eleven hours. I don't know how people

44:20

fly to places like Australia, but they do, and they put up with

44:23

it, you know. But has do you agree with him? If the

44:28

airlines would do anything, if they would just make those seats a little more

44:35

comfortable, flying would not be the way it is today, And it is

44:40

in his opinion. Tend to agree with him on this one pure hell.

44:45

Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven

44:49

oh eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial pound two to fifty.

44:52

And all you do is have to say, hey, Rod, now know a lot of people are flying, and at spring break a lot of families

44:57

you know, would be leading town arount of town. But I'd love to

45:00

I hear from you tonight on this is is flying to the point where it

45:04

used to be so much fun, pleasurable, something we'd look forward to.

45:07

And now, as this author describes it, pure hell. And he says

45:10

one of the number one reasons, maybe the number one reasons today not the

45:15

airports, not the air lines, but the airplanes himself, with those darn

45:21

tiny seats. Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight

45:24

five seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dowal pound two

45:29

to fifty and say hey, Rod, your calls, your comments coming up right here on the Rod Arcat Show. The author of this column I saw

45:47

in Putting the Show Together, described flying in America as pure hells and the

45:53

number one reason, he says, it's pure health. Airports have been fixed

45:57

up. They're nicer today than they ever have been. The airlines are doing

46:00

a better job with delays. You know you occasionally we'll run into that,

46:05

but not quite as often as you have. He says. The number one

46:09

problem that you know, what makes it just awful to fly anymore are the

46:14

seats. They're smaller, they're closer together. And he said, if the

46:17

airlines did one thing to try and give us all a little bit more room,

46:23

it would make flying that much more enjoyable. Agree or disagree eight eight

46:28

eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero

46:32

one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen and say hey,

46:36

Rod, welcome back to the Rod Arcad Show on Utah's Talk Radio one

46:39

oh five nine K and R as live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Would

46:45

flying be more enjoyable if the seats were just a little bit bigger. Let's

46:49

go to Ronda in Kysville and see what she says tonight. Ronda, how

46:52

are you welcome to the rod Archad Show. Hi? Ron, I'm doing

46:55

good. I just my husband and I just flew just on Friday from Maui

47:01

and that was our biggest complaint. We had the two three two seats and

47:06

there was hardly in the room for our legs. And so what you said

47:10

about the eighteen inches to the sixteen inches and then thirty five to twenty eight,

47:15

yeah, totally makes sense now after we flew it. It was and

47:19

it was a six hour flight and you're just sitting there and you know,

47:22

you don't have much room. You don't even hardly have any room to put your bag under the seat. You know. It was, Yeah, it

47:30

was crazy. But I totally agree that if they, if they made the

47:34

seats better, you know, it would be a much more enjoyable thing to

47:40

fly. Ronda, did they did the passenger in front of you put their

47:45

seat back at all? That makes it even more uncomfortable. They didn't,

47:50

which is good. We did, my husband did, because we flew like

47:54

at eight o'clock at night, so we didn't get intill like six in the

47:59

morning, one of those red eyes. Like it's hard to sleep on a yeah, and it's hard to sleep on a plane when you're sitting straight up.

48:07

Yeah. That was our biggest complaint was that the seats were too little

48:14

and that we didn't have a lot of lake groom and they weren't very wide.

48:19

So it's what you said, just make so much sense after flying per

48:22

for a while. Yeah, now you understand what people are going through out

48:25

there. It is not very comfortable. I am one now. My wife

48:30

can sleep sitting up. I mean my wife can sleep about anywhere, almost

48:32

standing up sometimes if she started. I can't do that in sitting on one

48:37

of those airplanes, in those seats, I just cannot get comfortable to go

48:40

to sleep. So when you have a red eye, like our listener just

48:45

said, it's a long long night, let's go to Steve in Rivers and

48:49

tonight here on the rod ARCHITCHU, Hi, Steve, how are you?

48:53

I'm good now, I'm doing well. What are your thoughts on this?

48:55

Steve? I took a flight from four into Salt Lake City two weeks ago

49:00

and I had an exit row aisle seat gentleman next to me. I don't

49:06

know how he got his hits in that seat, but the rest of him still over into my seat about six inches. Oh no, oh no,

49:14

And and his legs were so big I couldn't even pull my screen up to

49:17

watch a movie. So I just sat there and looked at the wall for

49:20

an hour and a half, right, and made try not to make contact

49:24

with his guys. It was incredible, I believe. Yeah, And you

49:29

know, you kind of feel sorry for somebody like that, don't you see if I mean, he's a large individual and he's been asked to sit in

49:35

these dinky little seats. I was like, really, yeah, I mean

49:40

you know that they shouldn't give him the opted to buy two seats at the

49:44

discount or something, because he definitely didn't fit in that seats still over into

49:50

the other. Yea, it is experience. Yeah, it's no fun out

49:53

there sometimes flying, especially if you're a larger I'm kind of average, I

49:58

think. But I have three sons who are big guys, and we do

50:01

if we're ever flying together as a family, or one of them is coming

50:06

with us, we do our darnest if we can to get an exit seat,

50:08

because you do have more legroom there. Now, the seats haven't changed,

50:13

but you do get a little more legroom, which is always nice.

50:17

Let's go to Al, who's in Salt Lake City tonight here on the rod

50:20

ar catcho, Al, how are you thanks for joining us? Oh?

50:24

Thank you there. It's not just I got a different mindset. I mean,

50:28

I'm six for one, I weigh two hundred and sixty pounds. I've been flying all over the world for the past twenty years. To my job,

50:35

I always sit in the back. I don't have any issues sitting in

50:37

a seat. And the gentleman talked about another person who was a bit larger.

50:44

You know, not everybody can be the same size. And I've had people sitting beside me. For me, I can get a lot more room

50:50

when I lift up the arms, and I always try to pick an aisle

50:52

seat so I can pick up the arms after takeoff. And I got plenty

50:58

of rooms, so you know, I agree. Well, let me ask

51:00

you this, Al, Al, Let me ask you this before you go

51:04

any further. You say you've been flying for a long long time. Have

51:07

you noticed that seats have gotten smaller and closer together? Oh? Absolutely,

51:12

absolutely, I have but again, it doesn't bother me. I take a

51:15

look. I guess I have a different mindset. I look at where I'm

51:19

going because it's enjoyable for my job. Where I'm going those kinds of things,

51:22

I don't worry about sitting next to somebody that might be a little larger.

51:27

Again, by lifting up those arms, you get a heck of a

51:30

lot more room. Yeah, that's true. It does open up things, all right. Al thank you, Wayne is in Salt Lake City's an idea

51:36

on the Right ar Kit show. Wayne, how are you? Thanks for joining us? Hey, I'm good. Thanks. Red. So, I

51:44

have to say it's an exaggerations that he's complaining that it's a living hell,

51:49

because everybody has a choice to buy a bigger seat. If you've got the

51:53

money, you can sit up from you get a lot bigger seat. But

51:58

if you don't want to pay for that, and you get you know, your regular seat. Yeah you're talking about first class. It's your choice.

52:06

Yeah, but you're and you're talking about spending on getting a first class seat,

52:10

which can be very expensive, as you're well known, right right Wayne,

52:14

Oh yeah, I always applied regular. You know, we fly quite

52:20

a bit and you know, it's just part of the part of the thing.

52:23

Yeah, and you know it doesn't it's just the mindset going into it.

52:27

But you know, I think that the exaggeration to Colin the living hell

52:30

is kind of complicated because really a living in hell. We can see that

52:34

right now in Gaza. Indeed, that's true Terras state of bombing the civilians.

52:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah, living hell right there, Yeah, that's

52:42

true. He is, all right, Wayne, thank you. I've flown

52:44

first class once, just once, and I have to tell you it was

52:50

enjoyable. Uh, you know, just once, just once. I decided

52:53

I'm going to do this one time, just to enjoy the experience. What's

52:57

always cracked me up is they put the curtain between first class and the rest

53:00

of us normal people, so to speak, And as if that's going to

53:05

make a difference, Never does, does it? All Right, more of

53:07

your calls coming up here on the rod Ar Kitcho. You know, flying

53:10

in America today, is it as this one column has described pure hell?

53:15

Not because of the airports, not because of the airlines, but because of

53:19

the seats in the airplanes. Your calls and comments coming up right here on

53:22

Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Kate and r Ass rod Arcats Show on

53:36

Talk Radio one o five to nine kN Rs. All right, welcome back

53:44

to the rod Ar ketcho here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Ky

53:47

and our ass program. Note coming up a little bit later on in the

53:52

show, our guest will be Riley Gaines. Riley, of course, an All American swimmer who is launching a new campaign to protect women in women's sports.

54:00

She'll be speaking up the University of Utah later this week. She'll be

54:04

on the show tonight talking about the battle that she is waging in the steps

54:07

she is taking to protect women in women's sports. And she'll be talking about

54:12

that, of course at the U later on this week. She's joining us

54:15

a little bit later on in the show tonight. All Right, improving airports ending to lights? Does that make flying better? According to by columnists that

54:22

I read today, it's the airplanes, and it's the seats on the airplanes

54:28

that have gotten smaller as we've all gotten a little bigger. Eight eight eight

54:32

five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one

54:37

zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen and say hey, Rod, back to the phones. We go. Let's talk with Gary, who's on

54:43

I fifteen tonight listening into the rod ARCATCHO. Gary, how are you?

54:45

Thanks for joining us? Thank you, Rod? Go ahead, Gary.

54:52

I totally agree with all of the complaints that are being lodged that seats are

54:58

less comfortable now, but everybody's taking a look look at it from your own

55:04

point of view. What's in it for the airlines to make it different?

55:07

Uh? Maybe happier customers, maybe maybe, Carrie, I don't know that

55:14

well, happy customers, But does that mean that you're gonna then fly more

55:17

or less? I mean the airlines are there to make money. Yeah,

55:22

they are, and they're gonna throw up the plane and it doesn't matter how

55:24

uncomfortable the seats are. It's only going to cost them money if we put

55:30

a couple of requiners and a couple of vibrator seats in and maybe you could

55:34

charge more for those seats. But then how would that work? Yeah,

55:37

yeah, it's it's just this is just a comment that I you know,

55:42

I'm listening to everybody else's comments and that's just the way it is, and

55:49

it ain't gonna change because what's in it for the airlines? Yeah? Yeah,

55:52

the area. You're right, Gary, it's a business and the airlines are there to make money. I mean you look at we gave the airlines

55:58

twenty five billion dollars during the pandemic, Gary, I mean, can you

56:00

believe that that's a heck of a lot of money twenty five billion dollars?

56:05

Wow? Well as opposed to letting the airlines shut down, which, yeah,

56:13

yeah, that's true. All right, Gary, thank you. Let's

56:15

go to Michelle, who's been bountiful tonight on the rod I ketcho. Michelle,

56:19

how are you? Thanks for joining us, Hey, Ron, thanks

56:22

for taking my call. I just wanted to comment on this seat. Yeah,

56:27

you're right. I mean I see both sides of the coins. The

56:29

seats have gotten smaller, there's, you know, no doubt about that,

56:31

and I think people, like you said, are getting larger as well.

56:36

My issue is less with the seats so much as it's with like people with

56:42

air rage and all of these you know, safety concerns that are going on.

56:45

That's really what what I'm most concerned about these days. It's flying.

56:52

So you're saying, is you know, I would agree with you, Michelle. I think people have become a bit ruder on airplanes, if there's such

56:58

a word. I mean, you know, and I don't know. You

57:00

know, we see videos almost on a weekly basis of outrage on an airline

57:06

an airplane, and I don't understand why. I mean, what are they gonna do about it? I don't know. I know that they do have

57:14

a no fly list for people that you know, causer, rucus and whatnot,

57:19

and sometimes they find them, depending on the severity of the situation.

57:22

But overall, I mean again, I'm less concerned about the seats as much

57:25

as safety. And she's who's actually in our in our planes these days?

57:30

Yeah, yeah, you never know who, Thank you, Michelle. You

57:32

never know who you're gonna tick off and they're going to just go wackle on

57:37

an airplane? Is Michelle makes a good point. Maybe the seats and the

57:40

people in those seats nowadays, we go to Mont Pelior, Idaho and talk

57:44

with Ron tonight, are on the rod ar catcha Ron. Thanks for joining

57:47

us. When I'm first of I want to say we got it so good

58:00

against Ron. We're on cut. If you want to call background, we've

58:05

got a very bad signal. Please feel free to call back. If you

58:07

want to make a comment on this whole idea. Sorry, our signal was

58:14

bad, and we invite you to call you back eighty eight eight five seven eight zero one zero if you want to call this background. But Ron made

58:20

a good point. I think I was able to kind of decipher what he

58:22

was saying. We have it very good in America today when it comes to

58:27

flying. You know, the airlines around the country. You talk to people

58:32

will fly in foreign countries and they're kind of going. You know, there

58:36

are some airlines out there that make you a little jitterate, some that are

58:39

very good. The best airline I think I've ever flown on, and I've

58:43

only done this once was British Airways and British Airways wonderful airline. I flew

58:50

it once and the flight was magnificent. The flight attendants were absolutely outstanding.

58:54

I mean, talk about service. But here in the United States, I

58:58

think for the most part, the flight attendants are doing that's I could not

59:04

do the job that they do. I just could not do it. But

59:08

they seemed to do it all the time, and you know, most of

59:14

the time they do it with a smile. Kind of tough to do when you're dealing with some passengers sometime. The funny thing that I find out another

59:22

little complaint that I have about flying today, and this did happen to us

59:27

as a matter of fact, on our recent flight that my family and I

59:30

took down to San Diego for a week, was people nowadays are trying to

59:35

cram so much into those overhead bins. You know, they don't want to

59:38

pay for the luggage fees. I don't blame them, shouldn't have to pay

59:42

for luggage my opinion. They also, you know, want the ease of

59:47

a carry on, but they cram so much into those overheads. And what

59:52

happened to us, and I just remembered this as I was thinking about this.

59:58

As we were getting ready to leave, there was one of those overhead

1:00:02

bins where it was just stuff too much and it broke and they had to

1:00:07

call in somebody. It only delayed us a few minutes, wasn't that long,

1:00:10

but they had to fix the overhead bin. It would the thing wouldn't

1:00:14

close. Somebody crammed so much in there it just wouldn't close, and it

1:00:17

broke the darn thing. Fortunately they had one handy or I don't know what

1:00:22

they did to fix it, but one of the maintenance guys came on fixed

1:00:24

it and we were ready to go. But that's the other issue that I

1:00:28

think people have is because either they don't want to wait for their luggage,

1:00:32

they don't want to pay the luggage fees, you know, and they're going

1:00:37

to take on carry on luggage and they're going to try and get as much

1:00:40

in that carry on luggage as they can and try and cram it into one

1:00:45

of those overhead bins that they just can't do it, and sometimes they in

1:00:49

fact do break and it just delays even more. That's another thing, you

1:00:52

know. And they you know, I understand what they're doing. They're trying

1:00:55

to make it accommodating for people, but that can delay things as well.

1:01:00

Back to the phones we go. Let's go to Logan and here from Sebastian

1:01:04

tonight here on the rod Ar kitchen. Sebastian, how are you? Thanks

1:01:07

for joining us? Good sir, thank you for taking my call. So

1:01:12

competition and access has made flying what it is today. Everybody can fly,

1:01:17

that's true. Your screener challenged me a little bit. Your screener challenged me

1:01:22

a little bit on pricing and prices you know, you can fly on spirit

1:01:25

in Frontier from here to LA for like thirty six bucks round trip. Now,

1:01:30

his challenge was, they nickel and dine you for everything. However,

1:01:36

you can pack light, you can take a small bag, you can do

1:01:42

things to mitigate the extra nickel and dime cost. However, you know you

1:01:49

everybody has access to flying. Everybody has access to flying out. They do,

1:01:53

they do so, so the airlines need to pack in all the seats

1:01:59

and pack in all the people. Yeah, and they do, they they.

1:02:01

I would agree with you, as Sebastian, it is a business.

1:02:06

I've got a story I'll share with you when we come back after the break about something I heard a good friend do. I've never asked him if in

1:02:12

fact he had done this, but this is how he avoided dealing with luggage.

1:02:16

Fascinating story, I thought, But he told me. I just laughed.

1:02:20

But we'll get into that with you and more of your phone calls. You know, flying in America today is it as bad as you know?

1:02:28

This this columnist wrote about. He said, not so much about the airline,

1:02:31

the airports, you know, the delays. It's really about the plane

1:02:37

itself, in those tiny, tiny seats eight eight eight five seven eight zero

1:02:42

one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero, or on

1:02:45

your cell phone dal pound two to fifteen and say hey rod More coming up

1:02:47

right here on the rod Our Kid Show. All right, welcome back to

1:03:00

the rod archaetch o. We're taking your phone calls tonight on flying in Amaro.

1:03:05

Good today, eaton fix up the airport. You can stop all the

1:03:08

delays, but then you do have to get on the plane. And this

1:03:14

columns that Bos said it's pure hell because of the seats. He puts most

1:03:17

of the blame on the seats. I would agree to a certain extent that

1:03:22

as we've gotten bigger, the seats have gotten smaller, and it's made the

1:03:27

ride a little bit more less enjoyable. Back to the phones we go.

1:03:30

Let's talk with Mark. Mark is in Leyton tonight here on the rod of

1:03:35

Arketcha, Mark, how are you? Thanks for joining us? Hi?

1:03:38

Good, Thanks Mark, Thank you? Hey, I've got I mean I

1:03:42

could comment maybe even kind of more of a question, but just I don't

1:03:45

fly very often, but when I do, I've always I've had the same experience of a larger person next to me that spills over arms and shoulders and

1:03:52

legs in the my seat. Would the airlines allow me to have a some

1:03:58

kind of a barrier, like like a vinyl almost a sunshade like you put

1:04:01

in your car to block the sunlight. Could I take one of those on

1:04:04

with me and flip it open and just block the person's body from rubbing into

1:04:10

mine all the entire flight. I don't know if the airlines would allow that,

1:04:14

and I don't know if it would work. Mark. I mean, I've never thought of that. I don't know if it would work, but

1:04:19

I've never I've never tried it. Maybe maybe they would allow it. I

1:04:24

doubt it, but you never know. Yeah, I'm I'm sure there're you

1:04:28

know, at least a blanket would prevent your skin from touching. But I

1:04:31

wonder if somehow, somehow a way to force people to stay in their stay

1:04:38

in their seat, not in mind, I've never thought of that. I

1:04:42

doubt if it would be allowed about you. Yes, never know. Dave

1:04:45

is in Layton's Night here on the rod arciad Joe Hi, Dave Hie,

1:04:53

Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Dave, go ahead. Yeah. I'd

1:04:57

like to say something, Jimmy Carter, do you really there? Airlines?

1:05:00

They've done a bad job and they may crowd the seats, but they've made

1:05:04

a heck of a lot cheaper because in today's price to be a couple of

1:05:08

grand to fly somewhere, and they're doing a bang up job. And I'm

1:05:12

impressed at the airlines and the job they do do. And that's the one

1:05:16

Jimmy one thing Jimmy Carter did that was right. Do you regulate the airlines?

1:05:20

And it's made it all affordable. And I don't care how comfortable I

1:05:25

am. I love to fly over the place cheap. The main thing is

1:05:29

it's cheap. And you know, if the federal government keeps in Playton and

1:05:32

spending our money for us, they're going to make things go up everywhere.

1:05:39

And I collect on the side, and I notice all the restaurants and stuff

1:05:43

like that are hurting because people are losing their spare money and theirs to taxes

1:05:47

for some numb war overseas or something like that. Is it, David?

1:05:51

I want I want to challenge, Yeah, I want to challenge you on

1:05:55

what is it really that cheap to fly anymore? I find it it's as

1:05:59

expensive as an ever has been. Well, I always get on the bart

1:06:02

and deals. Okay, you know how to play the system. All right,

1:06:06

all right, Dave, thank you. Let's go to Robert in Clinton

1:06:10

tonight here of the Rod er Ketcher. Robert, how are you? Thanks

1:06:12

for joining us? Good hey, Rod, how are you? I'm well,

1:06:15

thank you, thank you. Robert. Well, you know, just

1:06:20

my two cents for Rod. The thing is, it's a necessary part of

1:06:25

our adult lives. I mean, people fly for work, we fly for

1:06:29

pleasure. But you have someone like me. I'm six foot four, wow,

1:06:33

and I'm two hundred and fifty pounds. I'm a pretty big guy.

1:06:36

I'm not, you know, like a basketball big, but I'm a big

1:06:41

guy. And Rod, when I get on the plane it's kind of a

1:06:44

miserable experience because I can't, you know, I'm a family guy. I

1:06:48

can't just fly first class. Most of us fly you know, economy,

1:06:53

and it's a miserable experience. You get in there. It's very tight,

1:06:58

very compact. The circulation at times is poor. And I think overall,

1:07:02

Rod, it's not a very good experience for us. And I know that's

1:07:05

lamenting, but it's true. Yeah, I would agree, Robert. I

1:07:10

think for larger people like yourself, you know, and like I said,

1:07:14

I have three sons, who are big guys, and it's not a pleasurable

1:07:16

experience. We do everything we can get to get those exit seats, but

1:07:21

it rarely happens for us. By the way, Quick Story had a good

1:07:25

friend I heard this through others. I don't know. I never asked him.

1:07:29

That he would go to Hawaii quite often. All he would take no

1:07:32

luggage. He would fly to Hawaii. He'd get off the plane, usually

1:07:36

in a wahu. He'd buy a couple of pair of shorts, a cheap

1:07:40

pair of sandals, and three or four cheap T shirts while he was there,

1:07:43

and that's what he would wear all the time when he was in Hawaii. He didn't worry about luggage at all. He said, I'm gonna do

1:07:47

that. He'd go buy a toothbrush, maybe a comb, and that's all

1:07:50

he would do. And that's the way he didn't have to worry about his

1:07:54

luggage. So he'd fly to Hawaii, no luggage whatsoever, get there,

1:07:58

buy some shorts, buy cheap T shirts that you can find, you know,

1:08:02

three for ten dollars over there, buy some sandals, buy a toothbrush,

1:08:05

and he was a happy kim. The lady to do it isn't all

1:08:11

right when we come back. Power in America and in Utah. An important

1:08:16

decision by Rocky Mountain Power that some people are condemning. We'll talk about.

1:08:19

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coming up Riley gains a little bit later on right here on the Rod arcuecho

1:09:31

I loved how this was positioned in the media, and particularly the Salt Lake

1:09:39

Tribune dot Com. That doesn't surprise me. But here is the headline I

1:09:42

saw that caught my attention. In Climate Setback, Rocky Mountain now says it

1:09:48

plans to burn coal in Utah until twenty forty two. Is that a climate

1:09:55

setback? That we're going to have reliable source of energy? The industry is

1:10:03

improving its emission's output every year. We have some from what I've been told,

1:10:10

I'm I'm not what would you call geologist or whatever. I'm not an

1:10:14

expert when it comes to clean coal versus dirty coal. But I'm told here

1:10:19

in the state of Utah, we do have some of the cleanest coal out

1:10:23

there. And so when I saw this headline, I kind of kind of

1:10:27

chuckled a little bit. Boy, I said, boy, talk about a

1:10:30

slanted story. In Climate Setback, Rocky Mountain now says it plans to burn

1:10:36

coal in Utah until the year twenty forty two. The story is this,

1:10:44

Rocky Mountain has decided to change its plans for an early retirement of its power

1:10:51

plans here in Utah and instead, as the story points out, and the

1:10:56

company announced that it is going to stick with the original retirement dates of twenty

1:11:00

thirty six and twenty forty two. That is what the company apparently announced yesterday.

1:11:10

Now they also announced that they are canceling plans to replace two Emery County

1:11:16

coal plants with nuclear power plants, which I think is a shame in a

1:11:19

way, because we need nuclear power and I would like to see not only

1:11:25

Utah, but states around the country move in that direction. Why we are

1:11:29

so afraid of nuclear power in this country, I do not understand. We're

1:11:33

all still being influenced by that movie with what was it Jack Lemon and Jane

1:11:38

Fond of years ago called the China Syndrome, and it still scares the daylights

1:11:42

out of us. Yet if you go to Europe, and I can think

1:11:45

of France for sure, where they get most of their electricity from nuclear power,

1:11:51

nobody is complaining about it. But here in the United States, we

1:11:57

just make it very, very difficult to build a nuclear power plant. And

1:12:01

that's really what it's all about. So I wanted to bring on our next

1:12:05

guest State Center, Scott Sandal, who really worked on this plan, and

1:12:10

get his reaction to this announcement by Rocky Mountain Power yesterday. Sender Sandal,

1:12:14

how are you welcome back to the rod Arcuetcho. Thanks Rod, it's good

1:12:17

to be with you. Scott, what is your reaction to the news that

1:12:20

Rocky Mountain says, you know, we're going to wait a little while on

1:12:24

call the world continue burning it through twenty forty two. What's your reaction to

1:12:28

that? Well, I think, quite honestly, it's something that we have

1:12:31

to do until the federal government decides to permit nuclear, which is the next

1:12:38

baseload power that is proven to be dispatchable and twenty four to seven. And

1:12:45

right now there's a conundrum because the federal government says, hey, we're not

1:12:48

going to permit nuclear plants, but in the meantime, let's shut down your

1:12:53

other coal fire plants that that are your twenty four to seven power. So,

1:13:00

Scott, I saw this headline in the Tribune today. You may have seen it as well. They call it a climate setback. Is it a

1:13:05

climate setback? Scott? Well, unfortunately, I think the war on pollution

1:13:13

got turned into a war on coal. And quite honestly, wouldn't it be

1:13:19

better if we were the leader as a nation in clean burning technology of coal

1:13:25

and then could export that to other nations and tell we can bring on nuclear

1:13:30

or geothermal or hydrogen something else. But in the meantime renewables, wind and

1:13:38

solar are great when the sunshines of the wind blows, but not when neither

1:13:43

when those two things happen. That is true. You worked on some legislation

1:13:48

in this regard. What exactly did your legislation do and what were you trying

1:13:53

to do with it? Because it was signed in the law I think by

1:13:56

the governor. What exactly were you trying to do, Scott with the legislation

1:13:59

you introduced? I think we may have lost. Are you still there?

1:14:12

Zendors? You go there, you go there, you go back to the

1:14:15

legislation, back to the legislation Rod. So what it basically did was Rocky

1:14:21

Mountain Power is a by by state recognition, a regulated monopoly, and the

1:14:28

regulator regulating authority is the Public Service Commission. The legislature set both of those

1:14:33

things up years years ago. This basically says to the Public Service Commission,

1:14:40

you are able to and we're going to direct you to allow Rocky Mountain Power

1:14:46

to source coal and to do clean burning coal to upgrade your plants. As

1:14:55

part of the regulatory authority, we direct the Public Service Commission to allow Rocky

1:15:00

Mountain Power to pretty much continue to still burn coal as our base load and

1:15:05

tell something new comes along until we can get some nuclear dispatched. And that's

1:15:11

kind of what the bill does. It basically resets the way the Public Service

1:15:15

Commission has been going and says, you know what, we need to make

1:15:20

sure that we have a dependable, reliable source. Scott, I've heard two

1:15:25

things in the past, and I know you've done some research on this.

1:15:28

I want to get your comment on it. I've heard that the coal here

1:15:30

in Utah is some of the cleanest burning coal out there. That's one story

1:15:34

I've always been told. And that technology, the advancements in technology has made

1:15:40

coal burning a lot more efficient and protecting the environment. Are those two statements

1:15:44

true? Yes, I believe they are true. In my research, both

1:15:49

of those things are true. We do have the cleanest burning coal, some

1:15:54

of the cleanest burning coal in the world. And like I said in the

1:15:59

opening statement, wouldn't it be best if the United States came up with better

1:16:04

ways to burn coal and then we exported that to some of these developing nations

1:16:10

who quite honestly are not on board with moving away from coal. That's what

1:16:15

they that's what they're building their societies on. Is cheaper coal, but in

1:16:23

a lot of cases they're not going to put on the technology to make that

1:16:27

cleaner. We could probably lead a little bit in doing that. Is it

1:16:31

true as well, Scott, that we have some of the cheapest electricity rates

1:16:34

in the country nowadays thanks to what we do here in the state of Utah.

1:16:39

That's true. We were forecast by a national organization to be the lowest

1:16:46

cost energy in the United States. That title had been with Washington State,

1:16:53

who is now projected to drop to number eight in the lowest cost and we

1:16:58

are projected to be the lowest energy in the United States. And I do

1:17:01

believe it's because some of the things that we are doing are forward looking to

1:17:06

say, we need twenty four to seven dispatchable power that is quite honestly efficient

1:17:12

and affordable. And I do believe that's what that bill file tended to do.

1:17:16

And I mean that's what it leaned into. Until we are permitted by

1:17:20

the federal government to do some of these other things, especially in the nuclear

1:17:25

arena, cold's going to be our baseload. With what you were able to

1:17:30

put together and what Utah lawmakers approved, how much was that one of the

1:17:33

factors in Rocky Mountain Power's decision to do this, or were there other factors

1:17:38

involved as well? Scott Well, I do believe that the resource management plan

1:17:45

that was put forward last May indicated that they were going to drop coal out

1:17:49

of their portfolio much quicker, yeah, than this and this kind of adendum

1:17:56

to that resource management plan. I do believe that some of u was in

1:17:59

the world works before this legislation. I think they walk hand in hand,

1:18:04

but I'm not sure that that it was that decision was completely deriven by the

1:18:10

legislation. I do think Rocky Mountain Power saw that that they weren't going to

1:18:14

be able to meet that deadline in any kind of reasonable form. Do you

1:18:18

know, Scott, the percentage of power that these plants provide Utah right now

1:18:23

that Rocky Mountain Power operates, how much of the the percentage of power we

1:18:27

get from those plans here in the state of Utah. How much does it

1:18:30

make up about our energy makeup to begin with? How much power do we

1:18:33

get from those plants? I think it's about half, really really half?

1:18:39

Wow? Yeah, well, nice to have it around. They're big plants.

1:18:43

Yeah, nice to have it around for a few more years. Isn't

1:18:45

this God, Well, we want the lights to turn on. We don't

1:18:47

want to ruling blackouts. We don't want to be like some of our neighbors.

1:18:53

And quite honestly, sometimes it makes for a little tougher decision legislatively.

1:18:57

But I think in fact I'm confident so we've made the right decision. Man,

1:19:01

I think we have as well. Scott, thank you very much for

1:19:03

joining us. Appreciate a few minutes of your time tonight. Hey, take

1:19:08

care and thank you all right, joining us on our newsmaker line that has

1:19:11

states centered. Scott Sandal talking about the Rocky Mountain powers decision to continue burning

1:19:17

coal in Utah until twenty forty two of change in plans, Chief Electricity will

1:19:23

be around for a while, Thank goodness. Right, all right, Mark

1:19:26

coming up here on the rod Arquitcho and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

1:19:30

Knrs, all right, welcome back to the rod Oar Ketcho here on

1:19:45

Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Kay, and are ass coming up

1:19:48

at the bottom of the hour, We're scheduled to speak with A Riley Gain.

1:19:53

Riley will be in up at the University of Utah at the end of

1:19:56

the week. She of course, is an All American collegiate swimmer. Also

1:20:01

has really led the effort to keep women in women's sports and prevent men who

1:20:05

think they're women from competing against women and women's sports. And she'll be talking

1:20:11

about that. She'll be joining us at the bottom of the hour. You

1:20:14

know, you really have to admire how Trump is able to turn things on

1:20:18

the Democrats. I mean, what was it a couple of weeks ago he

1:20:21

mentioned the word blood bath, saying that there would be a blood bath among

1:20:27

the auto industry if, in fact, China is allowed to build plants in

1:20:30

Mexico. Well, the Biden administration, of the Biden campaign, you know,

1:20:34

it took those words out of context and said, look, here you

1:20:38

have Donald Trump predicting a blood bath if he isn't put back in the White

1:20:43

House in twenty twenty four. And you know they just well today here we

1:20:47

have Biden again or Trump again. I believe he was in Wisconsin, Michigan

1:20:51

and basically calling the calling it the Biden border blood bath, talking about what

1:20:59

has happened on the border. It's pretty amazing what he's able to do. Well, you know, there are the migrant advocates out there who argue that

1:21:06

illegal arrivals commit crimes at lower rights than Americans. The claim is unverified.

1:21:13

Why, Well, that's because the federal government and most states do not break

1:21:15

down crimes by immigration status. Well, what about the waves a porous border

1:21:20

and what it means for crimes without borders here in the United States today?

1:21:25

Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about that is Jim Varney. Jim

1:21:29

is with real clear investigations. He's been looking into that. Jim, thanks

1:21:31

for joining us design here on the Rod Arcuat Show. It was sure,

1:21:35

Rod, thanks for having me. Let's talk about your article because you talk

1:21:40

about the many ways a poorest border means crimes without borders. What do you

1:21:45

mean by that, Jim? Well, we're talking about two different things,

1:21:48

right that I think need to be looked at sort of separately, even though

1:21:53

it all falls under the illegal immigration umbrella. So on the one hand,

1:21:58

you've got crimes that are committed by illegal immigrants. You know, the Lake

1:22:02

and Riley murder captured a lot of attention, and you know that is a

1:22:08

problem, and you can argue that none of that crime in theory should happen.

1:22:13

So it's all additional crime. But there's another piece to this, which

1:22:17

is vast criminal activity that goes on around illegal immigration, and in fact often

1:22:25

it's the immigrants themselves that are the victims of it. So you know,

1:22:29

you've got this foot trail to the United States coming through the Central American insans.

1:22:33

These people don't have a lot of money, they're desperate, they're getting

1:22:36

preyed upon by people. I'm sure your listeners know that the cartels have a

1:22:41

big hand in controlling the channels. They're getting rich off this. There's drug

1:22:45

smuggling going on. You hear about child and sex trafficking. The Labor Department

1:22:50

told us last June, I believe or last July that the incidents of labor

1:22:56

which excuse me, child labor, we're up forty four percent. So all

1:23:00

of this criminal activity that always surrounds this act, this immigration is just multiplied

1:23:08

because the numbers are so much bigger. What about this claim, and I

1:23:12

mentioned this just a moment ago, that the migrant advocates say, Jim,

1:23:15

that illegal arrivals commit crimes at lower rates than Americans. Is that true,

1:23:19

Jim, Well, certainly they say that it is, and they've got a

1:23:25

number of scholarly articles that make that claim, and then you see it repeated

1:23:30

by Pew Research and various people. I don't know enough about all the statistics

1:23:36

to say if that's true or not. You also pointed out to your listeners

1:23:41

that you know, the data on this is kind of scarce or incomplete,

1:23:45

right, I mean, the bad guys don't issue annual reports. They're not

1:23:49

having calls with shareholders to tell you how they're doing, so we don't really

1:23:56

know. But even if that were true, and they're also by the way,

1:24:00

I think folding in legal and illegal immigration there, and of course the

1:24:03

legal immigrants nobody's complaining about that. But even if it were true, then

1:24:10

you're back to the initial thing I was talking about, where this is the

1:24:13

crime that is committed by illegal immigrants, which in theory should be zero.

1:24:17

And I think your listeners, a lot of them probably heard Lake and Riley's

1:24:21

father was a heartbreaking moment where he was talking about that where if the people

1:24:27

shouldn't be here in the first place, and they should have been deported,

1:24:30

right, these are some people that have been arrested previously, then that crime

1:24:34

shouldn't happen at all. So the rate of crime at which they're committing I

1:24:42

don't want to say it's irrelevant, but it really doesn't make any difference to

1:24:45

the victims of the crime, and it still leads to an increase in crime

1:24:50

that we shouldn't have. And again, it pales beyond the other stuff we're

1:24:55

talking about, rod which is much bigger. You know, why are these

1:24:59

crimes so differfficult to track? Jim? What makes it so difficult to track

1:25:01

these crimes and really get a sense of what is taking place in the country

1:25:05

today. When it comes to illegal immigration, I think you can track some

1:25:12

of it, Okay, So for example, we know that drugs smuggling is

1:25:16

done through the same kind of channels. Well, if you look at the

1:25:19

fentanyl seizures that have happened in the United States, they've tripled. I mentioned

1:25:25

a moment ago the Labor Department talking about a forty four percent increase in child

1:25:30

labor violations. I think what makes it also difficult is not all of this

1:25:35

is violent crime. I mean, those are terrible things that we were talking

1:25:39

about, but you've got a whole black market going on where people are living

1:25:44

in a kind of shadowy world. I'm sure a lot of your listeners know,

1:25:47

immigrants that don't have car insurance, crafts or maybe not even a driver's

1:25:53

license. There's a black market for social Security cards. There's unscrupulous employers that

1:26:00

are hiring these people and maybe paying them below under the table and a below

1:26:03

minimum wage. All of that's illegal. Now, you know, we can

1:26:09

talk about how bad it is in terms of the scale of crime, but

1:26:14

it's very hard to get a fixed figure for any of that because, as

1:26:18

I said, it's shadowy and it's a black market, and we just don't

1:26:24

have hard numbers. But it's indisputable that it's a lot more. We're talking

1:26:28

with Jim Varney from real clear investigations about this tragic story when it comes to

1:26:31

illegal immigration. I think the biggest tragedy here, Jim, and I know

1:26:36

you point this out that doesn't get enough attention in this country is human trafficking

1:26:41

and especially the trafficking of children coming into this country illegally through the border.

1:26:45

What a tragic story this is, and I don't know if we really have

1:26:48

a handle on it, do we, Jim? I don't think we do,

1:26:51

Rob and I think that's a good point. It's heartbreaking to see that

1:26:57

this kind of thing is going on, and you know, the people that

1:27:00

are involved in that. That's really pretty much the drags, right, That

1:27:05

is a despicable thing to be involved in. I really don't even have any

1:27:10

respect for the people at either end, either the ones that are setting it

1:27:14

up and committing the crime or the people on the other end that are taking

1:27:17

advantage of it. But unless you wanted to launch some massive investigation into this,

1:27:26

which we don't seem to have the resources or the inclination to do,

1:27:30

I don't think we know how bad it is. It's hard to say.

1:27:33

I think there's a lot of rumors that fly around with that. You'll see

1:27:38

them, you know, people will say something like you'll hear this that the

1:27:41

super Bowl is a weekend that is filled with problem. I don't have no

1:27:45

idea where that starts from. I don't see any evidence of that. But

1:27:50

that doesn't mean that it isn't happening. We do see people getting arrested for

1:27:55

it. And it's simple grim arithmetic that if it happens, let's they just

1:28:00

make up a number. Let's say it happens five times out of a thousand.

1:28:03

Well, if a thousand becomes one hundred thousand, now You've got a

1:28:08

lot more of it. It's so tragic, so tragic, Jim, and

1:28:13

nobody is raising attention or trying to raise attention to this, and I think

1:28:16

that's just one of the many tragedy surrounding this story when we begin looking at

1:28:21

it. Jim, always great having you on the show. Thanks for a

1:28:24

few minutes of your time tonight. Happy to be here. Thank you all

1:28:28

right on our newsmaker line, that's Jim Varney. Jim is a with real

1:28:30

clear investigations looking into a poorest border means crime without boundaries, and we really

1:28:36

don't have a handle on all of this as of yet. It's a real

1:28:40

issue in this country today and it all falls at the feet of one Joe

1:28:44

Biden, in my opinion. We're coming up rightly. Gains scheduled to join

1:28:46

us, coming up next right here on the rod Arcutcho and Utah's Talk Radio

1:28:50

one oh five nine k n RS. Jim The roder Cat Show on Talk

1:29:14

Radio one oh five nine kN r S. Yeah, all right, welcome

1:29:25

back to the rod Ar Ketcher. We're scheduled to speak with Riley Gains here

1:29:29

in just a minute on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN r s

1:29:32

before we get to that. I'm glad this story didn't turn out to be

1:29:35

an ugly incident, because it certainly could have been. But Kim Molke.

1:29:41

Kim Molkey is the coach of the l f YOU women's basketball team. She

1:29:45

apologized today after her stars left the court before the American national anthem was played

1:29:51

in the NCAA game that would where they would go on to lose against Iowan

1:29:57

and Caitlyn Clark. Uh. There was video last idea. The LSU was

1:30:01

beaten ninety four eighty seven by Iowa and Albany where the where Caitlin Clark poured

1:30:08

in forty one points. She's an amazing basketball player. I watched a little

1:30:12

bit of that game last night. I'm not a big fan of it,

1:30:14

but I wanted to see her play earlier in the evening. Apparently, there

1:30:18

was some footage on social media that appeared to show that the LSU players skipped

1:30:26

the national anthem before it played out at the Times Union Center. Well,

1:30:31

the Iowa stars stood hand in hand well taking in the Star spangled banner just

1:30:38

minutes before the game got underway. When asked about the incident and the aftermath

1:30:45

of her team's loss, Molkey said, honestly, I don't even know when

1:30:48

the anthem was played. We kind of have a routine when they're on the

1:30:54

floor and they come off at the twelve minute mark. She said, I

1:30:59

don't know. We come in, we do our pregame stuff. I'm sorry,

1:31:01

listen, that is not intentionally done, and that could have become a

1:31:06

real controversy, but apparently it was just I guess, a mistake in scheduling

1:31:13

and whatsoever. By the way, that game last night drew a record audience.

1:31:19

I think it was about twelve and a half million people watch that game

1:31:21

last night to see Caitlin Clark drop in forty one points and beating LSU,

1:31:28

who beat them a year ago. But I would beat them last night by

1:31:31

a score of ninety four to eighty seven. And the concern about what was

1:31:36

going on last night with the national anthem apparently turned out to be absolutely absolutely

1:31:44

nothing. At this point, a couple of other things we'll get to us.

1:31:47

We wait for Riley Gaines to give us call. The actor James Wood,

1:31:56

who I've always liked. He had a show on was it was years

1:32:00

ago, I think it was called Shark, and he is now voicing his

1:32:06

frustration at the White House and the calendar quickly filling up with days, weeks,

1:32:11

and even entire months dedicated to all are parts of the LGBT community.

1:32:16

He initially responded, he just says, come on, folks, do we

1:32:19

have to have an event almost each and every day? And that's what apparently

1:32:24

is taking place and James Wood is expressing his opinion on that. All right,

1:32:30

it's great to introduce my next guest. Many of you know her because

1:32:33

of her efforts in protecting women's sports. We're talking about Riley Gaines. She'll

1:32:38

be speaking up at the University of Utah later on this week Friday. As

1:32:41

a matter of fact, Riley, how are you and welcome to the rod

1:32:44

Arquatscho. Thanks for joining us. Riley, Well, thank you, Rod.

1:32:46

I'm thrilled to be on with you. Well, Riley, let me

1:32:49

ask you before we get into what you'll be saying to the University of Utah

1:32:53

this week. I saw this story today where you and Megan Kelly apparently have

1:32:58

tag team to respond to this whole horrible post by the National Organization for Women

1:33:02

and it said this weaponizing womanhood against other women is white supremacist patriarchy at work.

1:33:10

Making people believe there isn't enough space for trans women in sports. Is

1:33:14

white supremacy patriarch patriarchy at work? What a statement that is by the National

1:33:18

Organization Organization for Women? Riley? What do you make of this? Have

1:33:24

you ever seen so many oppression buzzwords in one sentence? Wow, apparently I'm

1:33:30

a white supremacist patriarchist. I don't even know what that could possibly mean.

1:33:35

And let me be very let me reiterate, be very clear what I have

1:33:40

been advocating for till I'm blue in the face these past two years. It

1:33:44

is merely fair sport and privacy and areas of addressing that is it. I'm

1:33:50

so confused. I'm baffled. It's almost comical, really that the National Organization

1:33:56

of Women has totally abandon women. That's what they've done. They're actually the

1:34:01

ones leading the charge and dismantling our rights to privacy, our rights to safety,

1:34:06

our rights to equal opportunity as women. So they're almost laughable. It's

1:34:12

like a South Park episode. But it's righty, How surprised to you that

1:34:17

now has gone in this direction? I mean, I'm with you, I

1:34:20

would think they want to do everything they could to protect women, but it

1:34:25

seems they're going in the opposite direction. What happened, do you think,

1:34:28

Riley? That's been the tune really at every level across the country, the

1:34:33

state level, you look at our elected our elected officials, the federal level,

1:34:38

and both the US House and the US Senate, it's fallen, at

1:34:42

least the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act have fallen entirely on party

1:34:46

lines. So for example, in the US House, that means two hundred

1:34:49

and nineteen Republicans voted in favor of protecting women and girls in sports. In

1:34:54

all, two hundred and three, every single last one of them, mothers

1:34:57

and fathers of their own young daughters, voted in opposition. Democrats voted in

1:35:01

opposition of protecting women and girls in sports. You even look at someone like

1:35:06

Billy Jean King, who is who we have to accredit Title nine two.

1:35:12

This is a woman who you know, she won the Battle of the sexes.

1:35:15

It was this huge feat for women that propagated us US forward, and

1:35:20

not just sports, but in the workplace, within our personal relationships. Really,

1:35:26

as a sex Billy Jean King propagated US forward. She is now actively

1:35:30

fighting for male inclusion in women's sports and women's spaces. So and you know,

1:35:38

Republicans have historically been labeled the woman haters. Yeah, but they're proving

1:35:45

that to be more and more false daily. They're the ones who are fighting

1:35:47

for our rights. Not that this issue should be political. I'll be very

1:35:50

clear on that too. It's incredibly unfortunate that this has been hyper polarized in

1:35:57

the way that it is, but based off of what we do know,

1:36:00

on what we have seen, it's Republicans fighting for women's rights, not Democrats.

1:36:03

They can't even define what a woman is not anymore. That's hard for

1:36:06

me to believe, but apparently they can figure out a way to do it.

1:36:10

Riley. Riley, you'll be speaking at the U as part of your

1:36:13

Reclaim Feminism campus tour. In your opinion, you've been doing this for what

1:36:16

about two years now, I think, Ryler, In your opinion, how

1:36:19

goes the battle? Are you winning? Do you think you're making a difference.

1:36:24

We're absolutely winning. Truth and sanity they always prevail, at least from

1:36:31

a worldly sense. I certainly believe that the tide is turning. I think

1:36:35

people are waking up daily to the harm and the severity that is being had

1:36:40

by saying that men can claim the identity of women become a woman. People

1:36:45

know that cannot be true, and certainly from a moral sense, an eternal

1:36:51

sense, the battle has already been won. We know the outcome. The

1:36:56

Bible tells us the outcome, which is certainly what keeps me grounded. It

1:37:00

keeps a smile on my face. It's how I'm able to do this with an incredibly light heart, because again I have security in the fact that,

1:37:08

yes, of course we're fighting for objective truth, but we're fighting for biblical

1:37:12

truth and are God created male and female, and that's the message that's the

1:37:16

most important. Spreading His word, his gospel, being a steward of our

1:37:21

Lord and Savior. So I certainly believe that we are winning, that's for

1:37:27

sure. Right Lean, I'm not sure in your events that you have been

1:37:30

conducting around the country if you allow for question and answers, if you do,

1:37:34

what is the most frequent question that comes up in this issue, rightly,

1:37:38

what do you hear from people out there? Well, I certainly allow

1:37:42

for Q and A. I especially love it when people who don't agree or

1:37:47

who are there in opposition or who just genuinely have legitimate questions. I love

1:37:54

when they ask questions. Some questions that come up from those parents or community

1:38:00

members or even students on teams at these colleges. They'll say, well,

1:38:04

you know, should we not compete if a mail is a if we're up

1:38:09

against a mail, or there's a mail in the pool or whatever. That

1:38:13

question comes up a lot to which I say, yes, I think you

1:38:16

should not compete. Boycotts have been proven to be effective in the past throughout

1:38:20

history. That's what we need. That's how we send the message no enough

1:38:25

is enough. I have people ask me if we should create a third category.

1:38:30

I have people say, you know, well, what about intersects, individuals? The list goes on of different ways. But again the questions and

1:38:39

opposition are always so easy to Rebut this topic, Riley, what is your

1:38:46

message generally? I mean, you have an overall theme as you make these

1:38:49

remarks of campuses around the country. What is the message that you were trying

1:38:54

to relate to people who attend these events. So my message I'll speak at

1:39:00

I'll speak to at the you, of course, I'll share what it takes

1:39:02

to be an only athlete, how I was really thrust into this position in

1:39:08

regard to the unfair competition in the locker room and the silencing. I will

1:39:12

speak to the broader, the broader issue here at hand, how it's much

1:39:16

larger than just women's sports, the impact that's been had since, and of

1:39:21

course what we as everyday people can do a call to action, whether again

1:39:28

you are someone who is young, someone who is old, whether you're male,

1:39:30

female, black, white, whatever, gay, straight, doesn't matter.

1:39:35

What we can do is everyday people to ultimately put America as a whole,

1:39:41

really the world back on track. Before I let you go, Riley,

1:39:44

I've got to ask you about what transpired over the weekend with the White

1:39:46

House issuing the proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility following on Easter Sunday as well.

1:39:53

What was your reaction to that, Riley? When you saw that?

1:39:56

I personally, when I saw that, and I disagree with about everything that

1:39:59

Joe Biden and his administration do, I was personally offended by that. As

1:40:02

a Christian, it just offended me, and I'd never been offended by anything

1:40:06

he's done other than all those policies. What would your reaction to it,

1:40:10

Riley? Well, at first I thought it was a parody account. And

1:40:15

then I thought to myself, oh man, did it actually turn April first?

1:40:18

And it's Aprilful's Day. Both of those were naive to believe because they

1:40:21

did do this. And I will tell you for the past seventy two hours,

1:40:27

whenever this broke, maybe four days ago, three days ago, I

1:40:30

have felt so disheartened, I have felt so demoralized. As you said,

1:40:38

this administration has proven to be a disaster time and time again. But this

1:40:42

did cross a personal line. Corrupting Easter, the most holy of holidays,

1:40:48

by proclaiming it as Transsibility Day and also eliminating Christian symbols from being used in

1:40:55

the White House. Easter celebrations should tell you everything you need to know about

1:40:59

their motive. It's showing you how this movement is their new religion, which

1:41:03

again the Bible tells us, It tells us of this, It tells us

1:41:08

we will reach this point. In all my feelings of kind of being disheartened

1:41:14

and again demoralized, I have to remind myself that there's really no reason to

1:41:17

feel that way, because again, the battle has already been one, and

1:41:21

God is very clear that he is not mocked and for whatsoever a man soweth,

1:41:27

that shall he also reap. And so if he seeth to his flesh,

1:41:30

shall he shall of the flesh reap corruption. So it's very clear,

1:41:35

it's outlined very clear in the Bible what is to expect when when this type

1:41:41

of thing happens. So, but I think this cross the line, especially

1:41:45

in an election year. This was a terrible move on their behalf. Yeah,

1:41:48

well, we'll see what happens. Riley. You're a brave young woman.

1:41:51

You're doing some amazing things out there. Good luck at your event on

1:41:55

Friday, and thanks for joining us tonight here on the rod arquetcha good luck

1:41:58

to you, Riley. Well they thank you. I appreciate it all right,

1:42:00

joining us on our newsmaker line as all Americans women at Riley Gaines Now.

1:42:04

She'll be speaking at the U on Friday night, six pm at the

1:42:09

Echos Business Building Room eleven ten at the University of Utah, free with pre

1:42:15

registration, and we've got a link to it more information at Riley Gainscenter dot

1:42:19

org. Riley Gainescenter dot org. We've got a link to that on our

1:42:24

page right now. Eric Kanarrest dot com and the rodarkit page. Take a

1:42:28

look at it if you want to go to this event of course Riley the director of the Riley Gains Center and the Leadership Institute. Should be a fascinating

1:42:34

night to hear what Riley has to say about this. More coming up final

1:42:38

thoughts here on the Rodarkitcho and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN Arrest

1:42:51

Final minutes of the Rodarkitcho with you on this Tuesday. Don't forget Wingman Wednesday,

1:42:57

Greg Hughes, so it's in Hughes will be joining me tomorrow. What

1:43:00

a brave young woman she is Riley Gaines. I hope you enjoyed the conversation.

1:43:03

If you missed any of it, you'll be up on our podcast here

1:43:06

in a minute. And by the way, she is teaking this Friday,

1:43:10

April fifth, six pm at the Eco Business Building Room eleven to ten at

1:43:15

the University of Utah. It is free with preregistration and more information is available

1:43:23

at Riley Gainesenter dot organ. I think there's a link there on our website

1:43:27

Kanarrest dot com where you can register for it as well. That's coming up

1:43:30

Friday night, six pm up at the University of Utah. Don't forget the

1:43:35

Jesse Kelly Show is coming you away tonight from seven to ten. Jesse will

1:43:41

take over the microphone after our news update at the top of the hour,

1:43:45

and then following Jesse Kelly, it is ground Zero with Clyde Lewis. Clyde

1:43:48

will be with you from ten to eleven tonight and then overnights with George Dori

1:43:51

as he keeps you company throughout the evening. So that's coming up. That's

1:43:56

your weekend or evening lineup. Weekend lineup. We aren't there yet, folks,

1:44:00

will get there. That is your evening lineup here on Utah's Talk Radio

1:44:03

one oh five nine k n RS. And again a reminder that Citizen Hughes

1:44:10

will be with me tomorrow for Wingman Wednesday. It's a lot of fun.

1:44:14

For three hours we'll attempt to solve the problems here in Utah, in the

1:44:18

nation and around the world that doesn't for us. Tonight, head off the

1:44:23

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1:44:27

We'll talk to you tomorrow at four. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday.