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past me account in. You know, I think I think Greg, we

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should we should let people listen in to our pre show conversations because we have

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such great debates over the things we want to talk about, and you're a

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big chicken on one of them we want to talk about. Yes, well,

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you're just a chicken. Chicken is one word. Maybe show saver is

1:21

another term you could use. Chicken. Oh boy, you don't want to

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venture where we're going. Let me tell you something, folks, if this

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issue comes up, you'll hear my opinion. But just I'm just going to

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say right now, this was not my segment choice. Yeah, this is.

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It's going to come up later in the show. But you will enjoy

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this because my guess is I won't. We'll get to it. We have

1:47

got so much to get to today. It is Wednesday already. It is

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wing Wednesday. It's not hump Day. It's wing Man Wednesday. I like

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that. That's right. We were your a lecture to hump Day. Sure

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are we? It makes so much easier, makes mine. I love being

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here. I love being here, dropping truth bombs, mocking the mockable,

2:07

the leftists. It's beautiful all right time. It is wing Man Wednesday,

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three hours that we spend with you every Wednesday afternoon where we attempt to solve

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the world's problems. We start with Utah, we go, we go nationally,

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and then you know it. Usually it is global. We have a global we have a global audience. We got to note the other day from

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some guy in Finland. Yeah, I did get up. So I'm always

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dragging about the guy from from from Melbourne, Australia, now Finland, now

2:32

Finland. He picked that up the other day. Well, we do have

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a great show for you today. A little bit later on we'll talk about

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Donald Trump's clear path to victory. Uh Congress Burgess Owens, I like Burges,

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you know, did he let me wear his Super Bowl ring? Once,

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did you excited? He does a lot. I've worn it multiple times.

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Yeah, it's been there, done that. We'll talk about ending DEI

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in medical schools. Do we want dumb doctors? I'm in the no camp.

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Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't like DEI for doctors.

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Uh, airline pilots. I mean there's a lot of things that I

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think. Uh skill is kind of my Yeah, it's kind of important.

3:10

It's kind of important, is it? And a little bit later on the

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administration not giving up on its fight to make all of us drive evs to

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the point where they soon you not have a car at all, which will

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work out fine for the Okay, all right, we want to start off

3:25

the show today. There were a couple of things. First of all,

3:28

like I said, our pre show debates are always interesting. Greg is defending

3:32

Joe Biden on the shoes that he's wearing. Yes, and this isn't even

3:36

the car, This isn't even the segment. I'm lamenting this one. This

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one. I am leading with my chin, folks. I am defending President

3:44

Joe Biden where he has been so unfairly attacked, so unfairly attacked, And

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you know, I knew you read this wrong. In our pre show preps,

3:51

you saw a picture of some shoes that he used to that this man,

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this president was wearing these Hokahs whatever they are, hookah shoes, the

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ugly Yeah, and they all are not presidential. And I agree, But

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the article, he's not getting slammed for wearing these things. He's getting slammed

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for his super cool which I actually own a pair of right now. These

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shoes, beautiful shoes that are that are They're like a shoe like a mullet.

4:15

They're they're professional on the front and they're a party on the back.

4:18

They got the big fat, you know, rubber soles on the bottom,

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so they're super comfortable the soles. But they have a nice, you know

4:26

top, like a wing tip top. It's a beautiful shoe, beautiful shoe.

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It is not worthy of criticizing this president for up in his game with

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phenomenal shoes that I happen to own a pair of. I zoomed into that

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and went, wait a minute, I own those shoes. That's not a

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bad thing. That's a good thing. But he did have a pair of

4:42

the Holka shoes on. Yeah, but he's getting rid of those, Yes,

4:45

but you've got to admit those shoes are those are terrible. Those shoes,

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well, I'll just say this, they're not presidential. They're they You

4:53

might, you might be ruling the whole you know, Senior Center, and

4:56

those shoes in some you know, some place in Arizona, but you're not

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run in the country. And those shoes. But the ones he's wearing now, they're giving them all this creep for wearing these shoes. And I'm telling

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you it's not an age thing or anything. These shoes are so comfortable you'd

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wear, I'd wear, I wear. I have multiple pairs of these shoes,

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and I refuse to see this president be criticized for a good pair of

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shoes, a comfortable pair of shoes. You're actually defending Biden on the shoes.

5:18

Yes, I think I think this undermines legitimate attacks when you take after

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his beautiful shoes, of which I own a pair. I'm looking at them.

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I'm looking at a picture right now that I can't tell you how beautiful

5:30

those shoes are. They cannot rip on them. For those shoes, but the Hoka ones, you would agree they were pretty ugly. They are,

5:35

But I know a lot of people will wear those Hohoka shoes. Yeah.

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I don't know. No, they do. I go all over. Huh

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yeah, he sees them at the gym. I see them all over.

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They're comfortable for people. They are not but they're not presidential. But those

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shoes, folks, the shoes he's gone. He is upgraded. He is

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not downgraded. It is not they have a thick rubber sole, you know,

5:56

but they're beautiful. Do you wear them for stability so you don't fall

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over? I wear n't for comfort. But again, they're very professional.

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They're very professional, and he's the smartest thing I've seen him do in his

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entire presidency. Are these shoes? I won't pick up? And it is

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a line in the sand you cannot criticize as president. All Right, a

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couple of stories we want to get to as we start off the show today. This one, Greg, the US has now hit a new low in

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world happiness. Yeah yeah, I don't think Bobby mcfern's getting us out of

6:29

this one. Yeah. Not on this one. We rank now twenty fifth

6:31

in the world when it comes to being a happy country. Is it because

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we're spoiled as a nation or Biden is just draining the life out of us.

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No, Biden's draining the life out I think now it's the largest percentage

6:44

of people who are unhappy are under the age of thirty, because it's it

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represents a larger portion of their lives, this Biden presidency. Yeah, yeah,

6:54

you know I was happy at thirty. I was too. I mean,

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you know, I free willing, I'm staring. Yeah, I was

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married by that. I'm still happy right now. But I'm happy because we got an election coming, we got we get Biden to remove But no,

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no, I look at it. Yeah, it's it's I keep hearing Bobby

7:10

mcfair and it makes it hard to be down when you hear this song.

7:14

But what is making people under thirty unhappy? Happy? Well, there's an

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article that's pretty funny. The Democrats, the leftist, those that would be

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proponents of Biden, where they call Bidenomics. Yeah, they're calling it.

7:28

Are you ready for this? They're calling it? Uh, where is my

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notes? Whereas this is so beautiful money dysphoria, money, Oh, that's

7:38

right, money dys for you money folks. Did you know that if you're

7:42

feeling the pinch, if the budget doesn't feel like it's enough if if you

7:46

go to the store and the roast per pound has gone up double or more

7:50

per pound, if everything feels like it's worse today, the liberals, the

7:56

leftists, they're here to tell you you don't know how good you have it.

7:59

You actually have it so good under Bidenomics that you suffer. This is

8:03

a straight faced CNBC article. Here. Wow, the new term money dysmorphia.

8:09

So gender dysmorphia. There was that. Okay, now we're so Democrats

8:15

used to think if you didn't agree with them, that you suffer from some moral failing. Well, now if you think that your life is bad or

8:20

the economy's not being good and you're struggling, now you have a mental problem.

8:24

You're mental. Now, it's not a moral failing. It's an intellectual

8:28

failing you have, or a psychological failing. You have money dysphoria if you

8:31

think your life is worse because the leftists have looked at the numbers and we're

8:37

all better off with biden So if you don't believe it, then you have

8:41

a mental illness. Truly, I kid you not. It's rainy dysphoria,

8:46

especially with young adults. Going after those young adults that are so unhappy.

8:50

It's just money dysphoria, folks. It has nothing to do with budgets.

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There's no math involved. It's just you're being mental. If you don't think

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Bidenomics is just serving you, well, well I didn't realize that not serving

9:01

me. Well, I don't know about you. It's not serving me. Well, I don't think it's serving any American well right now, right well,

9:07

that may lead to this other story that we picked up on today.

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Do you know now in New York, only in New York, Yeah,

9:13

they now have what they call sob parlors. Now, this is where you

9:18

go into a business, you rent a room, little room, you close

9:26

the door, and you cry, could we be weaker as the greatest generation?

9:31

They're you know, they're older. Now, my grandmother's passed my grant.

9:35

They didn't even recognize this country if they saw this a sab room.

9:39

I mean, if that isn't like an open invitation to every to Russia and

9:41

China in North Korea to come in and take us because we have sab rooms.

9:46

That's like the big tail. It's so horrible. Well, they just

9:48

need to go in and they need to you know, they just need to sob you know what I want to do. I want to go to the

9:54

s room and I want to give them a reason to sob did they even

9:58

go in there? I'm gonna make them. I think it's disgusting. It's

10:01

this is not Land of the Free, Home of the brave. Stuff it's

10:03

discussed. It is just it's a betrayal of this country to think of a

10:07

sab room. All right, well, when we come back, it's great

10:09

to be with you on wing Man Wednesday. If you want to be a part of the program, of course, triple eight five seven zero eight zero

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one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, rud

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when we come back, Why are Democrats pumping so much money into Republican campaigns?

10:24

Hmmm they saw the light? Maybe yeah, maybe no, No,

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that's not the gates. We'll talk about it coming up next. It is

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Wingman Wednesday, right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.

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It is Wigman Wednesday, right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

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kN rs, live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app run our catalong with Citizen Great

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Hughes. A lot to talk about today. Now we're going to be talking

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about what the Democrats are doing in some races. And they did this in

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Ohio last night, Craig in the race in which Bernie Marino won. He

11:07

is a Trump back candidate. He gets the opportunity now to gain run against

11:13

the Democrat there in Ohio, Sherid Brown. Before we get to that,

11:16

I just want to mention this when there was a detailed story today this you

11:20

have to look at the connection on this, Greg. But here's the Washington

11:24

Post today. Now, what is Joe in your opinion, what is Joe

11:28

Biden's biggest liability right now in this campaign? Would you say age? I

11:33

was just gonna say, in dementia. So the Washington Post runs the story

11:39

today on Donald Trump and his father's dementia in Alzheimer's and how he struggled with

11:46

it, that his you know, Donald struggle with his dad and descending into

11:50

dementia. And how do you think there's a connection there that they're trying to

11:54

prove, Well, if his dad had him, maybe Donald has it too.

11:58

I mean, it's so obvious. We've heard, we've heard. Look,

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I mean before they had been trying to accuse uh, Donald Trump,

12:05

even when he was president of mentally being incapable to hold the office. I

12:09

mean when he held his hand after he spoke at that Naval Academy graduation and

12:13

he had to go down that that ramp and it was raining and icy,

12:16

and he had his hand hovering over the railing. Look at him hover his

12:20

hand over the railing. He's not he does, he's not ballance and he's

12:24

like I was wearing leather bottomed shoes. It was it was astro turf coming

12:28

down. I can see myself falling and everybody would be laughing. So I

12:31

made sure my hand was over the railing. That is not But they want

12:35

they want to declare it toys at twenty fifth Amendment just because he had his

12:37

hand over the railing. Look look at now, I mean they can't that

12:43

president. No, his shoes are fine, but he cannot traverse the stairs.

12:46

Can I get up those stairs of the Air Force? One up or

12:48

down? Yeah, yep, it's the baby steps in the back of the

12:56

of the of the plane. Talk about what the Democrats are now wing in

13:01

races like Ohio last night. A big win for Morino. He is a

13:05

I guess in the auto industry, right, Ye, he's a businessman.

13:09

Had clearly two other challenges. One was endorsed by the governor there. But

13:13

Moreno won last night. Found out he won every county in Ohio last night

13:18

in that race. So that's a big win for and Moreno's you know,

13:20

supported by Donald Trump. Yeah, so he's a Trump candidate. And this

13:24

is what might surprise you. Uh, this is a this is a complaint.

13:28

This article was written by the New York Times prior to Moreno winning.

13:33

But they but the but the headline of this New York Times article is Democrats

13:37

are meddling in Republican primaries. And uh, it's not a kind article about

13:43

the Democrats doing this from their own New York Times. And it's showsen here

13:48

that that the Democrat group had spent two point seven million dollars on ads highlighting

13:52

the conservative credentials of Bernie Moreno. And you're thinking to yourself, well,

13:58

are they Republican or do they like conservatives? No, they think that that

14:03

they have a stronger chance in Ohio of beating a more conservative candidate. So

14:07

they as Democrats, have no interest in Bernie Moreno as a candidate themselves,

14:11

But that two point seven million dollars they're willing to spend to promote him is

14:16

to make is to electioneer. It's to put their thumb on the scale in

14:22

a general election the way they think it'll work out. And I think that

14:24

can easily backfire for them, But so does the New York Times. The

14:28

New York Times is saying, well, one of our big issues is election

14:31

integrity. This doesn't feel like election integrity. It's a Democrats yes, think

14:35

yeah, I mean this is what Adam Shift did. He threw some money. He threw I think ten million? What was it? No, I

14:41

hushed my mouth. Democrats spent about fifty Wait what was it? I'm sorry

14:46

for who? For? For Steve Garby it was ten million, ten million

14:50

dollars. Shifts campaign spent to elevate Steve Garvey the Republican because they have a

14:56

jungle primary where the two top vote getters, regardless of party affiliation, go

15:00

into the November race. Shift didn't want to face another Democrat, so they

15:03

put ten million into garbage race to help him come in the second. That

15:07

is not if you want to talk open in free elections, you want to

15:11

talk about parties that not members of parties that nominate that you know their candidate

15:16

to be on the November ballot. What these Democrats are doing in these races,

15:18

and it's across the country. They did it in Pennsylvania where they tried

15:22

to identify who they thought was easier to beat in November to help and put

15:26

millions into that Republican candidate's campaign. It's electioneering. Look at our caucuses.

15:33

Tell me how many people, folks when you went to your when you went

15:35

to your neighborhood caucuses, how many Democrats did you see when you weren't here?

15:39

Rod And we had our show on Wednesday after the Causes, that phone

15:41

line was packed with people who made the observation that within their neighborhood who they

15:46

see Democrat yard signs in the yards royally in November were amazingly card caring,

15:54

ready to go, Republicans, ready to just engage in the system, you

15:58

know, And you got to ask yourself, how is that not being that

16:02

used to be a stigma? Yeah, that was a stigma. Not anymore. The Democrats think the way to win is to really dismantle the party's candidate

16:08

that's coming after us. Let's dismantle that party or do interfere with their process.

16:14

And one of those steps I've got to be in one of Solo Instein's books. Yeah, and Rules for Radical that must be one of the rules.

16:18

I've never read the book, but it's got to be. You know,

16:21

when I was in California a couple of weeks ago, when you were filling in for me, Greg, this was before the election, there were

16:26

there were so many political ads on television and I was shocked at the number

16:32

of ads about Steve Harvey. And I said to myself, where's he getting

16:36

all this money? Because you know, those those TV markets like San Diego,

16:40

Los Angeles, San Francisco, Sacramento are not cheap television advertising markets.

16:45

You got to spend a lot of money to get on the air, and

16:48

he was all over the place. You're going, where's he getting all that

16:51

money? Now we know, and it's accelerating. So in twenty two, twenty twenty two, and I look, the only reason I'm quoting the New

16:57

York Times is because it's like intercepting the spy communications of the left. They

17:03

don't expect us to read their communications in eacharge, so we're intercepting their communications.

17:08

But when they're saying it, it's pretty bad. When they themselves are

17:11

saying it, so it's accelerating. Twenty twenty two, fifty three million dollars

17:15

of Democrats sourced fundraising money sent to support Republican conservative candidates. And they're saying,

17:22

here there's a there's a they're saying, there's some Democrats saying we think

17:26

this is unethical, and what really? And then what if the conservative wins?

17:30

Okay, so let me tell you something. The New York Times they

17:36

didn't their sense of justice isn't being touched here. They're scared that this tactic.

17:42

They wouldn't even bring this up and complain about it if they thought it

17:45

was air tight. They're afraid it's not going to work. How do they

17:48

argue for election integrity when they when the Democrat Party is just baldface trying to

17:53

influence the outcome of elections in a way that is not straightforward. Yeah it

17:59

is. But but they're going to do They're going to be doing that,

18:02

all right, All right, now more coming up here on the rod Our Catcher. We got great interview, a great guest, Josh Hammer's going to

18:07

join us. He's going to advise us on what Donald Trump's clear path to

18:11

victory is pretty interesting, pretty interesting point that he make how long has it

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been since you've been to Lagoon. It's been a while. Yeah, it's

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been a long time for me. Well, we've got a chance right now for someone to win four tickets to Lagoon. You realize that opens this weekend.

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More coming up on Wingman Wednesday. I think that's a very appropriate song for

19:07

our next guest, don't you. It's very e ray. I thought it

19:11

was gonna be her MC hammer. I thought it was a hammer time. I thought it was gonna have some hammer times. Oh, this is this

19:15

is good. I like to he probably hates hammer. Yeah, yeah,

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this is a good song. Though. All right, welcome back Wingman Wednesday.

19:22

Right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine, Canner s brod

19:25

our Ut along with citizen Hughes. All Right, well, I think we

19:27

know who's going to be on the bellot for president of November. There's some

19:32

tells out there, there are some tell signs. I'm gonna be probably Donald

19:37

Trump and probably Joe Biden. That's right. We think that's that's that's the

19:41

conventional wisdom. And actually the delegate count says both. So, yeah,

19:45

did you see Biden today? He was down in Nevada, uh, speaking

19:48

to a very small group of people at a Mexican restaurant, pleading for Hispanic

19:53

support. Basically said I need you. Yeah. Well, if he needed

20:00

me, he should have been thinking about all during his term of office.

20:03

All right, does Donald Trump? Is there a clear path to victory for

20:07

Donald Trump? And if there is a question, is is he going to

20:11

take it? Well, let's talk with our Hammer time guy right now,

20:14

Josh Hammer, senior editor of Newsweek, And could you refer to the Daily

20:18

Caller, Josh, do you like the intra music we gave you? I

20:21

know, I do you like that? Josh? Did we set it up, okay for you. It's a perfect setup road and it was a place

20:27

to join you on here. Thanks for having me, all right, all

20:30

right? What about this clear path to victory that you write about, Josh?

20:34

What do you see out there that Donald Trump should take advantage of?

20:40

Look, Donald Trump is the first ex president to run for another non consecutive

20:45

presidential term since Teddy Roosevelt in nineteen twelve, back when he was trying to

20:48

make a comeback back then was under the Bull Moose Party. And he's therefore

20:52

in a fairly unique position, or at least unique since nineteen twelve. And

20:56

he's unique in so far as typically when you're challenging an incumbent, and the

21:00

incumbents has all of the powers of incumbency that the listeners are familiar with.

21:04

You have the bully pulpits, you have the ability to give a national address

21:08

whenever you want to, You get to travel on Air Force one. They

21:11

typically blur the line between what gets paid for and for a campaign tolick all

21:15

that. But Trump is a former president, which means that he can challenge

21:19

the incumbents record, and not merely by saying here's what I aspire to do.

21:25

Here is what I promised to do when I get an office on day one. Rather, Trump can say here's what I did, and he can

21:30

compare it on issue by issue to the current president's record, and I would

21:37

submit that he should do so when it comes to crime, when it comes

21:40

to the economy, when it comes to inflation, and when it comes to foreign policy. Because if you can, if you can get past the Orange

21:45

men bad all the hysteria that you see on cable news, and you actually

21:51

want to look at the policies and the records, Donald Trump's record, Rod

21:53

looks a heck of a lot better in comparison, especially after what we've had

21:56

the last few years. Josh, this is a citizen huge joining Rod here

22:00

on Wingman Wednesday. I love this article because it's such a clear bottom line.

22:06

And as much as i've I've said we've got to look at his record, he has a track record now President Trump does. I think the historical

22:12

perspective that you're sharing is makes it something that should be highlighted a lot more.

22:18

And that is take four years of Donald Trump's presidency, how was how

22:22

did that go for you? How'd the economy go? What was the border like? Now let's take this president and how that's going for you. I

22:29

just think you bottom line that so well? Are you hearing our hope is

22:33

that the president takes that narrative. Are you seeing signs? Is there anyone

22:37

out there? I guess my question is anyone as smart as you articulating it

22:41

this way that you see out there? Is there a campaign message that sounds

22:45

similar to what you're sharing? You know? Look, I mean, I'm

22:48

not gonna lie to you and tell you that I think that the Trump campaign

22:52

is ready to pick up on this tomorrow. Currently, the Trump campaign's mantra

22:56

seems to be too big to rig. That seems to be the latest saying

23:00

that they're trotting out in the rallies on the campaign trail. And by too

23:03

big to rig, they necessarily mean that the margin of victory has to be

23:07

too big where the Democrats cannot steal it or commit fraud, or commit X

23:12

y Z things similar to what happened or at least to what they say happened

23:17

in twenty twenty. So I don't think that they're exactly on messages. Is

23:19

the point that I'm trying to sit here, Look, look my wish all

23:23

along for Donald Trump is just to focus on the issues and to focus on

23:29

his record. And you know, the immigration issue is Trump's issue number one.

23:33

I mean, when he came down that guilded escalator a Trump Tower back

23:36

in June twenty fifteen, that's the issue that he was talking about, and

23:40

that is the issue that he campaigned on in one on twenty sixteen, and

23:42

that is the issue today. Immigration, from my perspective, is the issue

23:48

that Republicans have to run on this fall. And Trump's record on immigration wasn't

23:52

quite as amazing as some of his most enthusiastic backers say. The border wall

23:56

obviously is not completed yet, but it was a heck of a lot better

24:00

than the immigration record of the current guy when you just do an apples to

24:03

apples comparison of Godaway's illegal alias special interest aliens caught up the border a legal

24:10

alien crime. The Lake and Riley tragedy, as absolutely horrific as it is,

24:14

is galvanizing a lot of moderate and swing state voter suburban moms to come

24:18

home and pull the ballot for Trump. So I just want him to talk

24:22

about what he did and then what he will do in his four years terms.

24:25

If he's reelected this November to actually further the MAGA America First agenda.

24:30

I just wish that it was a little less noise than a little more substance.

24:33

Josh Big article today from one of the columnists in the New York Times

24:37

talking about the nightmare that the Democrats have about losing Hispanic voters. You how

24:41

much of an advantage can Donald Trump take in attracting more Hispanic voters to his

24:47

campaign. So this is a huge, huge, five alarm fire for the

24:52

Democratic Party. In fact, more broadly wrought. Its actually not just the

24:56

Democrats. I think if you look at the post two thousand and eight,

25:00

post Obama Democratic coalition, what you basically see is what I've referred to many

25:04

times as a so called coalition of aggrieved interests, where you see various interceptional

25:10

and identity politics subgroups that came out to vote and mass for this new,

25:17

exciting, hope and change Democratic Party. So you had black Hispanics, young

25:21

voters eighteen to thirty five, and then you couple that with some very well

25:25

educated, you know, white PhD upper West Side of Manhattan types. So

25:29

Hispanic voters right now are virtually within the margin of error Nationally speaking, when

25:33

it comes to Biden versus Trump, the black voters are looking like they're going

25:37

to go for Trump as of the current polling at a twenty to twenty five

25:40

percent metric. That's a fairly conservative estimate. You compare that to twenty twenty,

25:44

where the black vote for Trump was hovering around thirteen percent. That's a

25:47

huge difference. And then the eighteen to thirty five demographic, the gen Z

25:51

and millennials, they're also looking very very close to a toss up. It's

25:55

not quite a true toss up, but it is a lot more competitive than

25:57

it was in twenty twenty. So Biden's coalition is fractured. The Democrats are

26:03

in real deep trouble right here. I don't know if enough people are telling

26:07

Joe Biden in his inner circle the honest truth because their entire coalition is collapsing

26:12

and the worstest immigration crisis it's home. I think that that hispatic mention,

26:18

in particular Rod is only going to continue to militate in favor of Trump.

26:22

I would agree with you on that one. Josh, great having you on the show as always. Thank you for joining us tonight, you bet,

26:26

thank you all right, on our Newsmaker line. That's Josh Hammer, Senior

26:30

editor, Newsweek contributor as well here on the rod Our Kentho in Utah's Talk

26:34

rady O one oh five nine Cannor. It's interesting comments. It is,

26:37

and I mean we didn't get into it. But also, I mean,

26:41

the world's on fire right now. Look at look at a nation we were

26:44

not engaged in, were as abroad during Trump's presidency, but we were still

26:48

strong. And compare that to the nightmare we're living through right now. So

26:52

our condemning more coming up on wing Man Wednesday, Utah Congressman Burchess Owens is

26:57

going to grace our airwaves. Coming up in the five o'clock hour. Love

27:02

it. Yeah, top of the hour. We're all talking about DEI and

27:04

the impact on medical schools. He's doing something about it, right, Yeah,

27:08

he sure is. He's trying to do something now. The other day

27:11

there was a new program that lasted one episode, The Don Lemon Show on

27:15

x Elon mus I won't put you on, Let's do a show after the

27:18

interview Elon it canceled this so the pilot didn't get picked up. No,

27:22

I didn't get picked up. But Lemon asked him about DEI in medical schools.

27:26

I want you to hear this exchange between the two of them, because

27:30

I think Elon makes a very good point. We lower the status for what

27:33

it takes to become a doctor. You're saying, if we lower the standards, But do you believe people are dying because the standards are being lowered?

27:40

I don't are having that is yes, an issue, but it could become

27:42

an issue, Okay, But the actual evidence in history shows the exact opposite.

27:48

If you look at how minorities were treated by the medical system, most

27:53

doctors, most doctors now are white, and there of mistakes in medicine.

28:00

So you're saying that my doctors are have bad medical care. I'm trying to

28:07

understand your logic gear when it comes to DEI, because there's no actual evidence

28:11

of what you're saying. No, I said, so if the standards like

28:17

if like, let's say I think that particular things were referring to surgeons,

28:22

Let's say search as is asked to a a surgeon in training is asked to

28:26

do it a series of operations out of the supervision of a senior surgeon,

28:30

and they get a bunch of those operations wrong. If if that happens,

28:36

and yet they are still approved to be a surgeon, the probability that someone

28:40

will die I think at some point is high. Okay, I understand that,

28:42

But that's a hypothetical. That doesn't mean it's happening. I didn't say

28:47

it's happening. You said. You didn't say it was happening. I said

28:51

it will. I said, I if we lower status people, old people

28:55

will die. But why respond to some thing or put something out there that

29:02

has not happened, because I could say you, I don't want it to

29:06

happen. I think we don't want to low ut those standards. Okay, if you look at the history of the medical industry, especially when it comes

29:11

to black Americans, it shows the exact opposity to be Look at the Tuskegee

29:17

Experiment, and not only five percent of doctors are in America are black,

29:22

all of them are white. So are you saying that if the majority of doctors are white? Are you saying that and there's these inequities, right,

29:29

and there's and people still there's still mistakes. Are you blaming DEI for that?

29:33

No, I'm I'm very very basically saying that if we lower standards for

29:38

what it takes to become a board certified surgeon or you know, a collegist

29:45

or something where that where the kind of disease we're talking about. If you

29:49

make a mistake cause it's all to die, then more people will die that

29:53

if we don't lower the standards. You makes a very good point. You

29:56

lower the standards, the possibility doesn't exist up there, Greg, So what

30:00

are you saying, and this is what I love? What what evidence do

30:03

you have that if you lowered standards that the care would would go down.

30:07

It hasn't gone down because you haven't lowered those standards that way. That's why

30:11

it hasn't gone down. But it reminds me of there was an episode of Yellowstone where oh, it's the end of it. I want to tell that

30:17

story. All right, we'll come back. We're just oones. We'll join us, and we're going to approach a topic that mister hughes. It just

30:22

scares them, Yes, it does, it scares them. Well, we're

30:26

going there anyway, you'll want to stay with us. Coming up two voices

30:32

together to save Utah and the US. It's three compelling hours of analysis,

30:37

debates, and laughter. Wing Man Wednesday with run Our Kant and Great Hughes

30:44

now on utass Talk Radio one oh five nine k n R s of the

31:06

This is perfect, This is that fluly perfect for the next subject we're will

31:11

be talking to and our guest, welcome back our number two of Wingman.

31:17

Wednesday here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Canna rest Live Everywhere

31:22

on the iHeartRadio app brought our get along with citizen Greg Hughes. All right,

31:26

real important topic now before the break, if you're listening, we played

31:29

the interview between Elon Musk and Don Lemon and which you know. Elon express

31:33

concern that DEI standards and medical schools would allow some into medical schools to try

31:40

and become doctors who probably shouldn't because they may not have the intelligence or the

31:44

talents to do so. Right now, two Republicans, well several Republicans now

31:48

in the US House are have introduced legislation to eliminate all federal funding, including

31:55

student loans, to medical schools and institutions with rates based mandates and DEI practices.

32:00

Now a member of Utah's congressional delegation and supporting that effort, we want

32:06

to welcome Congressman Burgess owens to the show, Burgess, how are you welcome

32:08

to wing Man Wednesday with Roder Keedd and Greg Hughes. How are you Burgess?

32:13

Ro Rod and Greg? Greg? Good here, Good talk you guys

32:15

again. Looking forward to this my friends for sure. Why is this bill

32:19

in your in your opinion, burg just so important? Uh? You know

32:24

this, this gets back a little bit of common sense. I would think

32:28

of all the places that we rely on meritocracy, uh to be the very

32:31

best at your at your work, at your skill and compassion. It's in

32:36

the medical medical professions. We we we all have to go through towns where

32:39

we make sure we take care of our health, make sure our loved ones

32:43

are going to be with us a little longer. And the last thing we need to be doing is thinking about somebody in that position based on his color

32:50

or her color, or their background and ancestry. That's a position, like

32:54

anything else that really matters in life. Meritocrazy at the very top. If

32:58

you have the intellectual skills to pass the test uh, to go through the

33:04

tenacity the effort to be good at your at your at your game, then

33:08

you should be able to operate and diagnose all the things that we need to

33:13

have an epathetic profession. I don't get anyone who said that we should look

33:16

at any other way. Uh, it makes no sense for for for someone

33:22

So you know, I would rather go to a doctor based on the skin color than than based on how well you can actually treat me. So,

33:28

uh, that's why we stand strong against it. And then no, no college should be supported if they're going to support that type of that type of

33:35

attitude. Speaking with Congress and Burgess Owens and you mentioned it common sense.

33:39

It is common sense, and it's it's strange that we have to really talk

33:43

at any kind of great detail about this issue. So you've worn many hats.

33:46

You've played sports and been a professional football player player at the highest level.

33:50

You've been a small business owner, You've been I've watched you start incredible

33:53

nonprofits, helping at risk youth and being mentor serving as a mentor. All

34:00

everything I've watched you do, or at least what my observations, it's you

34:04

know, adversity is a part of your life and it's the companion of people

34:07

that get things done. Share with our listeners, what's the role of isn't

34:13

it condescending. I guess to say that there's anything other than overcoming adversity and

34:19

excellence and high standards versus color and issues like that, isn't it? Isn't

34:23

that a condescending concept, Greg, Greg, you just nailed it. You

34:29

nailed it. It's called the soft bigger field of low expectations. This is

34:32

what I want you guys to think about this. We do not talk about

34:37

from of action. Do not talk about this type of process. When it

34:39

comes down to sports, do we we know that the best football players are

34:43

going to feel and do the thing or we're all gonna be upset if they don't win the game. The best basketball player because we expect the physical the

34:50

best physical train and ready to go person who's gon to win the game for

34:52

us. Only when it comes to intellect do we have people out there called

34:57

it leitis? And by the way, I grew up at a time understand

35:01

what segregation, what white supremacy looks like. And I'll be honest with you.

35:05

We had a commitment, We had a community community that so committed to winning that it was not white supremacist did us in It was black lefists,

35:12

people who looked who were able to go along with this idea that we need

35:15

to have some kind of lorng of the bar so we can achieve intellectually what

35:20

other people do with hard to work. So understand it is a great insult

35:27

to say that we need to lower the bar of medical professionalism so we have

35:30

more blocks to come in when blacks to do the same thing, give the

35:34

same opportunity, given the same opportunity, they'll do the same thing that anybody

35:37

else can do. For just I understand the concern about the medical industry or

35:40

the medical field as well. But Greg and I were talking about shouldn't this

35:44

be applied to people who are trying to become airline pilots other high risk jobs.

35:46

Shouldn't this all be applied to them as well? Burges, this should

35:52

be applied to everything in life. This is an American way. An American

35:54

way is for us to look at each other inside out, not outside in,

35:58

to look at each other the base on meritocrasy. My parents' generation,

36:02

the generation dealt with with segregations even though we were not assimilating every culture.

36:07

Believe the same thing no matter what community it was, that they will work

36:10

hard, to study, harder, run harder, to command respect of fellow

36:14

Americans, so they be looked at a good American. So we have to get back to that and everything that case away from that is just the visiveness

36:21

is it is truly I would stay racist. It is a bigger tread at

36:25

his best. And for anyone who says that Blacks and Hispanics or whoever cannot

36:30

achieve if given the same opportunities, then they have the wrong game. Here

36:34

here's something I just want to just make real good point because somebody was talking

36:37

about this yesterday. By the fact there's only less than five percent of blacks

36:40

for positions. I said, well, listen, thinks about California. Seventy

36:44

five percent of the black boy state of California in twenty seventeen could not pass

36:46

standard reading and writing tests. And seventy five percent of those boys that will

36:52

never ever be in position to be a position, not because they don't have

36:54

the ability to do so. They will never train prepared, given the opportunities

36:59

to have a discipline and dream big enough to get it done. If you

37:01

take those options to prepare for anything, talent position, football, pray it

37:07

doesn't matter you take away the opportunes to prepare, they should not be giving

37:12

the right to start those who those who prepare it best and can win the

37:15

game. That's what those ones should be given an opportunity to go out and

37:19

do their thing. Yeah, I thank you for sharing that. And I

37:22

think you're in a unique position as a leader and member of Congress and you

37:27

have the empathy of these issues. I hear so many people describe DEI diversity,

37:31

equity inclusion as if they're talking about uh, talking about not talking about

37:37

human beings, friends, people that you know, but almost like they're looking

37:40

at an aquarium and just staring inside of it. I guess here's my question,

37:45

what is the mood in Congress? I don't see a ton of things happening there. You've had an important hearing on this, you're an important voice

37:51

and leader on this. Are we going to see uh these issues? Are

37:54

we going to see these standards lowered? Are we going to see Congressional action

37:58

that prevents something like that's what's the truth? I mean, can you move

38:01

the needle on this issue? Congressman? We're I think the first step is

38:06

educating American people. And this is where Greg I think this year is going

38:09

to be too important for us because we all have a chance to make a

38:12

difference. Twenty twenty four could be looked at as a year of miracles if

38:15

we come out and make sure that our voices are heard. Right now,

38:17

we have a very small majority. The upside of the majority is that we

38:21

needs to have these conversations. We can, we can have hearings to bring people to the point of understanding what's going on versus not. But as when

38:27

it comes to American people, what can you do now to make sure that

38:30

we have more power in the House, a bigger majority, we get the

38:34

Senate and get a president of cares for our country. And I tell you

38:37

all this changes within twenty were during twenty months. Everything that we're now looking

38:40

at, that the threats for our country, the border we're having, our

38:44

educational system, marketistm is going through. They all that can change because we now know what the enemy is trying to do, what those we're trying to

38:50

destroy our culture are all about, and we know how to defeat that.

38:53

So I would say this, We're excited about what we have. I'm excited

38:57

about being here in Congress, but the most important thing is what we the

39:00

people, those of you out here listening to this will do this the next

39:04

few months to educate yourself, educate your friends, and get out and this

39:07

make sure we have a tremendous win as American culture. And we get that

39:13

done in twenty twenty five's will be a lot of fun for all of us.

39:15

Well said, Burgess is always right chatting with you. Thanks for joining us tonight. Thank you, guys, I appreciate it. Have a good

39:22

fight. All right, that's you to our Congressman Burgess Owens. All right, when we come back on the rod ARQUTCHU, a topic that one mister

39:29

Hughes is kind of reluctant to talk about. Folks, we all know what I'm talking about. You'll be with me on this week. We may have

39:35

to do a poll on this matter of fact. As we venture into this, you want to find out what it is coming up next? Right here

39:39

on Wingman Wednesday, Now little float one and the ends up touchdown and Johnny

39:52

Holten then the Raiders take the lead here in the fourth quarter, looking right,

39:58

John right the zone for the touchdown. Josh Reynolds with one eleven ago

40:06

man, Yeah, it's forty yards strike for the lad All right, welcome

40:09

back to the Wingman Day. They're on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

40:15

K n R S brought our cat along with you want to identify yourself

40:19

on this show. I went on this segment maybe Big Chicken. Well,

40:23

Iray and I were talking yesterday. Okay, we're having a between yourself.

40:28

We're having a conversation. We thought this would be an interesting topic because I

40:31

really wonder if if bugs people the way it does e Ray and I we're

40:36

talking about women announcers doing play by play of men's sports. Yes, okay,

40:44

all right, because you know Ewer says he hates it. It bothers

40:51

me if I hear a woman describing like a football game or a basketball game,

40:57

I don't know, it just bothers me. It's something wrong with me.

41:00

Yes, well, you obviously don't have any accountability at the home with

41:05

the missus, because I certainly am with Queen Bee Christa. I'm not going

41:07

to get on the wrong side of her on this. However, I will

41:09

say that in this lead in listening to the Bumper music and listening to that

41:14

play by play by that by Beth, I have met my ears, have

41:17

never heard a sporting event, and I love sports. I love I love

41:22

I've never heard never, I've never heard it in my life. Now,

41:24

you guys were talking about it conceptually, and and I I would just say

41:30

this, I'm not ready to condemn the entire gender on this play by play.

41:36

However, I have not had to have that. And I like a

41:38

lot of times the people that are like A like A like A, Oh

41:44

my gosh, Madden, John Madden. What made him so great? He

41:46

was a former coach and he had and I stood so I do like the

41:51

perspective that athletes and those that have played the sport bring to their commentary.

41:55

So I'm not ready to sign off on the whole gender, like you too,

41:59

like you they Man Woman Hairs Club is here in the studio. But

42:02

but I can see your point. How about that. I see it,

42:07

But I'm not ready to subscribe. I'm not. I'm not. I don't need my card, my man Woman Haters Club card. And are you basing

42:12

that on the fact that you just haven't heard enough of it to be able

42:15

to make a It hasn't interrupted intelligent decisions. Well, it has not interrupted

42:19

or influenced my sports watching life here, But you have been exposed to it

42:22

yet I have not. I will say that. I've not where this hit

42:25

me a couple of times this year already. Okay, NBA games they had

42:30

two women on doing the play by play and the analysis. And I'm going,

42:34

and what is it that you don't like about it? I don't know, That's what I'm trying to figure out. Maybe you hate women. No,

42:39

no, don't go, You're just trying to get me. You are

42:44

now, And I thought, where's Era on this? He has got a lot to say off the air. I just I just want to pass this

42:51

a long e ray shot me this note. A woman by the name of Jenny Cavanar has now been named the primary play by play announcer for NBC Sports

43:00

in California. She will be doing Oakland Athletics games. She's going to play

43:04

by play on baseball. Now, I know you're a big baseball am I

43:07

love baseball? Would you accept that if the Pirates I know you're a big

43:09

Pirates fan, and have a woman play by play announcer? I there there

43:15

are what I call sounds of summer. I have heard the play by play

43:17

of the Pirates on the radio growing up my whole life, and so those

43:22

sounds of summer are very familiar to great broadcasters with great broadcasters, and so

43:27

this would be different, this would be a different sound. I don't know

43:29

how I would react to that. I just am not going to hate on

43:35

women right now. I'm just going to stick over here, and I'm not

43:37

hating on women. To me, No, I'm not hating. I just

43:43

it just it's it's that he's talking about you there. It's so different to

43:51

me that I'm having a tough time accepting. And it hasn't. I'll tell

43:54

you the years I wonder this was our listeners. I'm telling you, when

43:59

you were gone, I would leaning on these listeners like you wouldn't believe that there are issues that I kind of knew where I was at, like this

44:05

TikTok bill. I didn't like it, but I wanted to hear from listeners,

44:07

and boy, they came in strong and they got great instincts. I'd

44:10

love to know what the listeners think. Eighty eight five seven zero eight zero

44:14

one zero Do you do you? Do? You? A? Do you

44:17

watch sports play by play where women are not just on the sideliner, but

44:22

they're the play by play or common color commentary? Do you hear it?

44:27

And B do you do you like it good? Yeah, it's fine.

44:30

Yeah, it doesn't bother me. On women's basketball, I don't know or

44:34

are there women's sports Women calling a women's sports game a guy thing is where

44:38

I have trouble with. If it's if it's men, if it's men playing

44:42

football, men playing basketball, men playing baseball. Yeah, and I've even

44:45

heard it now. I have heard, Okay, a woman on an NHL

44:50

broadcast. She's the analyst, she's not the play by play, but she

44:53

played hockey and she understood the game. So I was okay with that.

44:58

I think it's just the play by play thing. Yeah, So it irritates

45:01

me. Given that these listeners are the smart listeners in the world, they

45:04

might not even call on this for that very reason because they're saying right step

45:07

into you know, they don't want to step into it. They don't want

45:09

to know what they're saying. Well, they might not, you know,

45:13

they might always bugged me. But I can tell you whether you right to

45:15

hear Holly Row on a jazz game, say play, or a player made

45:20

a cute play cute on a men's game. Again, I'm going to vomit.

45:25

Yeah, that's that's you know. I don't describe a play as being

45:29

cute eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero or pound two fifty

45:34

lines are lighting up. Oh they are okay. Either either they're going to

45:38

agree with me or agree with you that you're a chicken. My look at

45:43

this. My screen has three text messages from Creamy, but I don't even

45:46

want to press it to see what it says. I'm afraid she doesn't call

45:52

me a name. Oh my goodness, I don't know. Let's see. Oh, oh, she's right. Okay, this question, I know,

46:00

we gotta go the calls. But listen who she's asking me. Who I'd

46:04

rather listen to, Chris Collinsworth or a woman. I have to say,

46:07

I'm telling you right now is just like that is brain, that's Dane Bramage,

46:13

Chris Collinsworth. All right, let's all right, we want to hear

46:15

from you. Do you agree with me? Andy Ray? We we're uncomfortable.

46:21

We don't like it at all of women calling play by play on men's

46:23

sports. Okay, Greg is he doesn't know yet. Yeah, I want

46:31

to take us dand let's go to Mike and Treemonton and hear what Mike hast

46:35

to say tonight here on Wingman Wednesday. What do you think, Mike?

46:37

Do you agree with me? Or do you agree with Chicken across the microphone

46:40

from me. I agree with you mostly, Rod, But I will say

46:45

some sports don't bother me. But football, where women don't even play the

46:50

sport, why are they there? Kind of feels like one of those d

46:54

D A DA Hires or d I A whatever you call it. That's what

47:01

a perfectly good person that's qualified, who's played and everything, they get the

47:06

back seat while the one who's never played gets front seat. So you agree

47:09

with me for the most part. For the most part, I mean it

47:15

was a Miller, Reggie Miller's oh yeah, yeah, she always too manly

47:21

in the basketball room when she was doing it. Drove me nuts there.

47:24

But I guess if they play the sport, it's it's something else. But

47:30

football, especially where they they don't play it, I'm not for it,

47:34

all right, all right? I like that. I like that because there

47:37

are some sports that that there's women versions. All right, we got one

47:39

more call. Let's go to Pam Utah County. Now we get the female

47:44

perspective. We need it, we need all right, Pam, where are you on this agree or disagree with me, No, I hate it.

47:51

I can't stand it. They need to I cannot stand it. When I'm

47:55

watching a football game, I want to hear the men calling the game and

48:00

Holly ro bless her heart. No, Now do you mind handle her?

48:07

Yeah? Do you mind? Do you mind Holly on the sideline? See,

48:09

I don't mind Holly on the sideline? She's fine, but when she's

48:13

doing I think keeper on the sideline. But I yeah, and I'm sorry.

48:21

I that might not make me a feminist. I don't care. I

48:24

think men's sports belongs to men, and men should be calling the games.

48:30

Yeah, dam thank you very much. I'll get your address and send you a dozen roses for saying that. Thank you very much. Coming Pam can

48:36

say that, I think Pam's at a better position to call that out than I am. I'll tell you right now. Yeah, yeah, no.

48:42

I Queen Be's also reminded me that my daughter, Sophie, she knows her

48:45

football. I'm telling you she does. I should see it. She'll be calling from the side, She'll be will be in the stands and she'll say,

48:51

well, you cover that wide receiver's not getting covered. The whole time, and she's right kid, turning the ball to her eight eight eight five

48:55

zero five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty

49:00

and say, hey, Rod, we're talking about women calling play by play

49:05

men's sports. Yes, what say you, folks? I love hearing your

49:08

take. It's way more interesting than or erased man. Women hears club in

49:15

here. They got their own club wing man Wednesday coming up right here on

49:19

talk Radio one oh five nine can or s. I don't take no crop

49:22

from anybody else, but you worked two one count and that is shut in

49:31

the left field. She's gone fountain. Okay, that is that? That

49:44

is that Julie Cavanar, the new announcer for the A Jenny Kevanar. That's

49:46

the new announcer calling a baseball guy. I've not heard that before. And

49:51

I'm the call that said, hey, they they've never played the sport.

49:54

Is hard to listen to them do it. But we don't know if all

49:57

the guys that are play by play all played the sport. But I I

50:01

don't. I mean, it doesn't sound familiar to me. I I kind

50:05

of tend to agree with you, but I got I got a daughter,

50:07

SOPHI that knows her stuff. I got to Queen Bee Christa. They know

50:09

sports, boy, they know it. Well. Well, so i'm your

50:13

daughter. Your daughter has called into the show. All right, we're gonna

50:16

put her on. We aren't gonna ask her any bad things about you as

50:21

a father. We wouldn't do that to you, because they're the list as probably long as our arm. She's an athlete. This is an athlete.

50:25

All right, we'll bring Sophie on. Sophie, Welcome to wing Men Wednesday

50:30

with rodber Kaden, A guy. I think you know, Sophie. How are you? Hey, I'm so good. How are you guys doing?

50:36

All right? Sophie weigh in on this. E Ray and I are uncomfortable.

50:39

We don't like E. Ray hates it women calling guy sports. What

50:45

do you say? Let's say you, SOPHI, you know what, it's

50:49

interesting, not shocking. Dare I say, it's not super shocking. It's

50:52

typically you know, a prideful man that can't like come down too and just

50:59

listen to a woman saying it's almost like a wife where you just kind of

51:01

tune out a wife probably and woman starts talking and it's kind of like we

51:09

shouldn't have to put up with this kind of study that's really your take.

51:14

So it sounds like it's at my expense somehow. I will say, though,

51:20

when you're not understanding, and I don't know if you just don't have

51:22

a daughter or a woman in your life that's like this. But my dad,

51:25

I think, wanted a boy first, and I'm the oldest, and

51:29

so he did about everything he possibly could to get me to like everything boy,

51:35

all sports, all messling, and as a daughter, you know,

51:37

you want to make your dad proud of you and whatnot. And so I

51:42

started watching sports, getting really into it, and me being not playing like

51:46

sports like football, for example. I guess it's just because I'm watching it

51:52

so much and I'm not playing it. I'm seeing the whole game a little

51:55

bit differently than maybe someone who played it and is watching their position. I

51:59

want clarify. She was powder puff champion. Yeah, powderpuff champion. I

52:04

don't know if my dad's ever mentioned this. We'll go to games and I'll

52:07

call plays before they even They go to this guy every other time, and

52:14

I understand it a little bit, not thinking it's a little bit weird that a woman is going play by play, But I think you're forgetting that one.

52:22

A lot of these women have the job that these men don't have for

52:25

a reason, and maybe it's just a prizing that you got to kind of

52:30

take your pride away. Understand that some of these women probably got to that

52:37

lesson in a profession for a reason. You know what I'm saying. We're

52:42

with you, Sophie. Thank you for calling in. She's put us in

52:45

our place atudent. All right, now, here's what's interesting on this topic.

52:52

Nothing but women callers. Right now, Let's hear what they have to

52:57

say. Let's let's go to Debbie and Provo. Debbie, Welcome to Man

53:00

Wednesday. Hi, thanks for taking my call. Definitely with you on this

53:06

one, Rod. I feel like men have men's spaces, women have women's

53:10

spaces, and I feel like women who force their way into those spaces do

53:17

it out of it becomes disrespectful. I don't want men forcing their way into

53:22

women's spaces, And just because you can doesn't mean you should just let men

53:29

have that space and be invited in enjoy with them. They can have an

53:32

invited in announcer who can announce from time to time. Saman of Women's Sports,

53:37

let's be more respectful of each other's spaces instead of just trying to take

53:42

over everything. Man, Debbie, sorry for women that feel like that.

53:45

Debbie, You've got a dozen roses coming away for saying man on the show.

53:50

Thank you very much, Debbie. We appreciate it. That all right,

53:52

thank you, thank you. See. I think she put it very

53:55

well. Men have men's spaces, women have women's spaces. Anything wrong with

54:00

that. Shaking your head does not work on radio. You must say something.

54:07

You just heard my daughter. You know, I got a wife to look. I hear what I hear what's being said, and I have to

54:13

I I tend to agree. However, I am just not ready to relegate

54:17

the entire gender away from an opportunity. For this opportunity, I can't.

54:22

I can't do it because I want to go home and I want to I got a quality of life. I got to measure here. You want to

54:27

about you people, but I got I got some other things. Way,

54:30

I've been on the couch for a week, so another I'm not Let's go.

54:35

Let's go to Allison in Utah County and see what she has to say.

54:37

Alison, how are you welcome to Wingman? Wednesday, I'm great,

54:43

thank you your thoughts. Yeah, so my daughter actually plays girls tackle football.

54:51

There's a girl's Utah Tackle Football League. Yeah, and it's phenomenal.

54:58

And actually so she plays on the youth league and fall with the boys.

55:01

It's not boys football, it's the youth league. So she actually plays with

55:07

them. She is so knowledgeable. So if she had those skills to be

55:10

able to call the plays and and be the yeah play by play person,

55:15

I would highly support that for her, if she had the skills to do

55:20

so, if that was something she wanted to, I would highly support that

55:22

because if she knows what she's talking about, and mind you, she's even

55:25

played, I don't see any reason why she couldn't. And I agree with

55:30

your daughter too. How she said like maybe like this is a pride thing

55:35

and I don't know, she's rubbing it in a little bit. That's it.

55:44

That's that's kind of the camp, you know, the US. I kind of heard that fromself, kind of the same sentiment. I like,

55:49

the other colored men have been women. If women places, and they shall

55:52

not cross the line. Samantha Gordon remember her great. The NFL even honored

55:59

her. She wanted to, and she's kind of on the weeding spots what she was and she played great and then you know in the you conference football,

56:06

but it became a national sensation and she actually was honored by the NFL

56:08

too, but they got it. Her father helped get tackle football for this

56:14

because they want to play. Did good for them, all right, more coming up? More your calls on women calling play by play play by play

56:21

calls in men's sports or not. It depends that if you want to move

56:24

on, it's up to you. It's like, I'm not married to this

56:27

topic. If you don't want seven eight zero one zero or on your cell

56:30

phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod. More calls coming out.

56:38

Read shake ten of sixteen. You mentioned the nine of eleven. That's

56:45

sufficiently looking for two handed rint rocker. Okay, hey eight eight five seven

56:55

o eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say

56:59

hey, welcome back to Wingman Wednesday. We've gone after the topic of women

57:04

calling play by play calling of men's sports like football and basketball. That was

57:08

Kate Scott. I believe it's her name. She does play by play for

57:12

the sixth I thought he Race said Kate Scott was calling into the program.

57:15

I thought you were a toast pal. I thought she was gonna go ahead and torch you. Ray, yeah, we have not men. Let's take

57:22

any more goals. Let's go to Sophie Different Sophie in Lee, I love

57:27

how are you welcome to the show? Hi? I totally agree with you,

57:31

Rod. I just feel I love what that previous caller said, Debbie

57:37

about like like men have their spot and women have their spot, and yeah,

57:42

I just totally agree with that. I feel like I just totally respect

57:45

men for what they do and women for what we do, and it's okay

57:50

for us to be you know, for women to be doing their sports and

57:53

men to be doing their sports. And yeah. So I just think I

57:59

just agree with her percent and I agree with you all right. I like

58:01

it. See, I'm winning this one. It just bothers you, guys,

58:05

because there are people out there who actually agree with you. Said go to the callers, I said, go to the callers. There there was

58:09

a bit of a debate here. I will admit I'm a little pensive about

58:15

this topic. But we go to the callers. I trust our callers, the smartest listening audience and all the land. Here's another winner name is Shelley.

58:21

She's calling in from fifteen tonight on Wingman Wednesday. Shelley, thanks for

58:24

joining us. What's say you, Shelley? Hi there. You know I'm

58:30

going to kind of disagree. I'm more on Drigg's side. I was raised

58:36

on the youngest of three girls. I was raised watching the Pittsburgh Steelers pirates.

58:40

My parents are from Pennsylvania, suburbs of Pittsburgh, and I tell everybody

58:50

I was my father's son because we watched all the sports, wrestling my son.

58:55

Both my boys played football, basketball, baseball, soccer, and I

59:00

engaged in that. And I feel like I can probably talk more about some

59:07

sports better than some men can. And I feel like if women know their

59:10

stuff, more power to them. Let them do it, you know,

59:15

Shelley, thank you? You know you just you just describe my daughter, Sophie's whole existence. It's Penguins, it's Pirates, it's Steelers, it's uh.

59:22

She's she was like you. She she was raised with sports every single

59:25

day and uh, and she knows a lot about it. If she's able

59:29

to do it, why should Rowden E Ray be the the wet blanket on

59:34

it all? I don't understand what they wear. They win act this way,

59:37

Shelley. All right, Shelley, you just made Greg's night, by the way, and the same same sport, same town too. She she

59:43

gets it. Dan is in South weaver tonight. Haven't heard from a guy

59:46

for a while. Dan, Thanks for joining us. What say you about

59:51

this? Dan? Sitting here in my I'm sitting here in my service van.

59:54

Guys aren't calling in because either they don't care or they don't don't I

1:00:00

want to offend anybody or their chicken or their chicken alesh Yeah, I got

1:00:05

you know, my children, my grandchildren, my great grandchildren, eighty percent

1:00:08

girls. But you know, turnabout's fair play. And we're already having a

1:00:14

problem with men invading a woman's domain. And I do believe this is the

1:00:17

domain of men. And what I want to see is the female Charles Barkley

1:00:22

and O'Neill, you know, broadcasting. I just I'm going to make a

1:00:29

real sexist statement here. Men and women are different, believe it or not.

1:00:32

And there's just something about a woman's falsetto voice. And I had an

1:00:37

NFL game. I apologize, it just doesn't register with me. Plus,

1:00:44

young men today are being overwhelmed with invasions of their traditional domain. And I

1:00:50

do think, like elections, it's going to have a consequence. All right,

1:00:53

Dan, thank you appreciate that. A lot of interesting calls on this

1:00:55

tonight, you know, and he brings up good because the chemistry Chemdustry with

1:01:00

with Barkley and Shack is second to night. It's very good. All right.

1:01:04

More coming up on wing Men Wednesday and Talk Radio one oh five nine

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can ar s Our number three. A lot of calls from women today,

1:01:10

you know, it's nice to hear from the ladies. I'm glad to hear

1:01:14

from I think they have this true. They made some good points. They can make the points that I don't feel comfortable making. So yeah, you

1:01:21

see we did this topic is Christas okay? Yeah, so well she went

1:01:24

dark on me. I don't know what that means, specially when dark on

1:01:27

Yeah. All right, we're on talking about EV's. Most Americans don't like

1:01:32

them, but Joe Biden says, tough, you're gonna have to learn how

1:01:36

to live with them. That's gonna be up next. Stay with Us. Two voices together to save Utah and the US. It's three compelling hours of

1:01:47

analysis. Debates and laughter. Wingman Wednesday with Runner Kant and Great Hughes Now

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on You Toss Talk Radio one oh five nine, can R s Utah's Talk

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Radio one oh five nine k n R S It is Wingman Wednesday with Brought

1:02:24

Our Head and Citizen Greg Hughes. You know, I would like to be

1:02:28

on an aircraft carrier one time to see one of these things come in and land and take off a thrill. I think we should make it a goal

1:02:36

for the show What to Do with Live Broadcat. Yeah, that'd be kind of right on the deck. Yeah, on the deck interview the servicemen and

1:02:42

women. Yeah, be kind of any freedom. Well, you know,

1:02:45

I think I find it interesting Greg that Democrats, whose religion is now about

1:02:52

the environment refuse to take no for an answer. The American people have been

1:02:57

telling him, yes, we understand the evs, but we don't don't want

1:03:00

them yet. They're going to force them down our throats whether we like it

1:03:02

or not. And my fear Rod is yes, they don't even care if

1:03:07

there isn't a market for it, because if people don't have automobiles or can

1:03:10

get around, they're not upset with that either. They're just walking Yeah,

1:03:14

because it's not their business, it's not their company. And again it's it's

1:03:17

probably easier to control a lot of people if the literal freedom to get around

1:03:22

has been impeded. Yeah. Well, I think the Democrats want us to

1:03:25

live in mud Hudson eat grass. I think that's the ultimate goal, if

1:03:30

you'll protect them ofracy, just to protect all right. Well, we bring this up because the administration today imposed what it's been labeled as the strictest ever

1:03:37

vehicle e mission standards in a bid to phase out gasoline cars surprise, surprise,

1:03:43

and joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk more about that as our good friend Craig Bigmore, Executive director of the New Car Dealers Association of Utah.

1:03:51

Greg Craig, how are you welcome back to the show. Great to chat with you, sir, Thank you so much. I'm talking to the

1:03:57

dream team. I got right, Yeah, I'm Greg c. It doesn't

1:04:00

get any better. Do we dare ask him if he likes men? Women?

1:04:03

Doing put him in that position? You don't have to ask, We

1:04:06

want to ask that we have Craig. Craig's great guy. We had a

1:04:11

last segment that anybody who's that there you go. Smart smart listeners might not

1:04:17

know, but I've known Craig Bigmore for a long time, and there are

1:04:19

issues and there's unintended consequences that government can interrupt business and free markets, and

1:04:26

Craig Bigmore has been a champion fighting for the little guy, fighting for free

1:04:30

markets, uh in this case in the auto dealer world. But those are

1:04:33

principles. Those are free market principles that that we need good voices, and

1:04:38

that's why I'm happy to see that, Craig, you're joining us on the

1:04:40

program. Craig, let me ask you real quickly. These mandates are we

1:04:45

think are going to have a chilling effect on the purchase of automobiles. You

1:04:47

may see dealers selling a lot less vehicles if people are forced into a vehicle

1:04:54

that they don't want. Are do you worry about that? We worry about

1:04:58

that a lot and wrestling enough. I'm actually in Washington, d C.

1:05:02

For the couple of days visiting with the delegation on this and other issues,

1:05:06

and it is a concern for us. We will sell whatever the vehicle or

1:05:12

the customer wants to drive. We're committed to that. We don't care whether

1:05:15

it's an ev gas hybrid, whatever it could be. Whatever. We're happy

1:05:24

to hydrogen whatever it is. But where the administration has gone too far,

1:05:30

too fast on this one. So I'm with a group of dealers and we

1:05:33

just did a little poll today and we said, what is your EV inventory

1:05:40

on your lobs? And to a person, they have far more inventory than

1:05:46

demand. On the heavy duty truck side. We've learned today that the infrastructure

1:05:53

to build out that lung haul that is a trillion dollars over time. And

1:06:00

so we want to sell whatever the customer wants to drive, but we're going

1:06:06

to take people out of the market. We already have evs that aren't selling

1:06:11

that the dealers are paying flooring on. And let's let the market dictate what

1:06:17

the consumer needs rather than the government. Graig. And not only the dealers,

1:06:23

but I have seen story after story over the last several weeks, if

1:06:26

not months now, like Ford and Pollstar and other big companies, they're cutting

1:06:30

back on their EV production because to your point, they simply aren't selling them.

1:06:34

I mean even the manufacturers don't want to make these things right now.

1:06:41

Well, it's very difficult now. Hybrids, they're awesome. I just purchased

1:06:45

a new vehicle about four months ago to get a hybrid. That was a

1:06:50

year wait, and so they're shifting. The manufacturers are shifting what they're doing

1:06:55

because of now consumer demand is dictating that so they have to respond to accordingly.

1:07:00

And a couple of things, like you mentioned that electric vehicles are awesome.

1:07:05

Hybrid are awesome, but the problem is some of those maybe are price

1:07:10

points where you're going to take the consumer out of it. And if you

1:07:14

take that supply out of it, what happens to the cost? It goes

1:07:17

up even more, And so we're concerned about all of those factors. And

1:07:24

infrastructure again one of the deaders. They're trying to put some charging stations in

1:07:29

and the municipality said, we don't even have the ability to do that yet.

1:07:35

So it's a really we want to be supportive. One other piece on

1:07:40

this one, a newer car. You expect me to see that, right,

1:07:43

Who do I represent all new car deaders? But a newer car is

1:07:46

a cleaner car. And the more people delay that buying cycle because of affordability

1:07:51

or the opportunity to get what they want, you're going to have a car

1:07:56

that's not environmentally friendly. It's not an advance and it's safety, et cetera,

1:08:00

et cetera. So the more we can turn over the fleet, the

1:08:03

better it is for everybody, from safety, from efficiency, from the environment

1:08:10

standpoint, and an exactly opposite of what's happening that the administration wants to have

1:08:15

happened because people are holding on their carslogger and delaying all of those things that

1:08:19

could help us. So, Craig, and this is a really specific question,

1:08:24

and maybe it involves too much inside information, you can't share it.

1:08:27

But I remember when Toyota when this EV. If you go back a few

1:08:30

years, and it looked like this demand for electric vehicles is going to be

1:08:34

high, and you had major automobile manufacturers announcing that they were going to convert

1:08:40

all to electric vehicles by a certain year, and you had this, you

1:08:43

had Toyota that was sending out a very very different message, and they said,

1:08:46

what you just said, Now, we're going to actually build the cars

1:08:48

that people want, and we're not convinced that this EV is all that everyone's

1:08:54

ever going to want. And at the time, Toyota was accused of being

1:08:57

saying that because they were behind the curve with their technolog and they weren't ready

1:09:00

for it, and they were really really criticized. So now you fast forward

1:09:03

to today, it looks like Toyota had it exactly right. My question to

1:09:08

you, Craig is, does Toyota are they benefited by this or are these

1:09:13

mandates going to harm them? Just like every other automobile dealer, even though

1:09:16

they were a little bit more resistant to this complete conversion of evs years ago.

1:09:25

I think they're a little ahead of the game, but it's going to

1:09:27

hurt everybody, Greg because of those reasons we've talked about. You think about

1:09:31

it. There's been billions invested by dealers in infrastructure. The manufacturers have invested

1:09:39

billions on this technology is good and getting better, and they're supplying a product

1:09:44

that people want, et cetera. But the things that they don't want is

1:09:48

to take their choice away and to mandate certain things at certain levels. It'd

1:09:55

be nice if the administration, rather than just projections, would actually be able

1:09:59

to have some science behind demand and so they could say, oh, here's

1:10:03

the reasonable approach, and here's how we're likely to get there, and ask

1:10:10

the car companies, ask the manufacturers, ask the consumers heaven forbid, ask

1:10:15

the dealers who have to floor these cars on their lot. Manufacturers aren't flooring

1:10:19

them. That means those lots those cars on dealers lots, manufacturers they don't

1:10:25

own those the dealers do. And those vehicles in most cases are being floored

1:10:30

or financed by a financing institution. And so if they have a certain turn

1:10:34

ratio every x amount of days and then the supply is double that in these

1:10:40

evs, that's not a good scenario for us. So I just wish they'd

1:10:45

be a little more wise about what they do of that. Yeah, Craig.

1:10:49

Final question, do hybrids fall under the category of evs or are they

1:10:53

a completely different category? Because at the car show this year where we talked

1:10:57

to you, when we were broadcasting live, one of the auto end three

1:11:00

experts came up to me. I interviewed him and he said, Rod, look, this is going to be the year of the hybrid. The American

1:11:05

people are willing to go to a certain step, but they like the hybrids.

1:11:09

Are hybrids included in what the administration is trying to do or because they

1:11:13

do use gas occasionally, do they write them off? I think there's a

1:11:17

combination, and I don't know the answer to that rod. But I think

1:11:20

there's a combination of factors involved hybrids. Certainly you get different credits with different

1:11:27

types of it's all battery or a BEV or a hybrid, etc. So

1:11:31

it figures into the formula somehow. I'm just not sure, but I think

1:11:35

it's there's application for everything. But at this point hybrids look like that would

1:11:44

be a really good solution at this point in time, rather than they coming

1:11:48

down they're just too heavy, too fast. Yeah. Yeah, Craig is

1:11:51

always great chatting with you. Love to have you on the show as always,

1:11:55

and safe travels back home. Thanks Greg, you mentioned take care all

1:11:59

right, Craig Bigmore. He is executive director of the New Car Dealers Association

1:12:03

here of Utah. Good guy, a lot of knowledge on this and I

1:12:05

remember talking to him at the car show earlier this year, Craig, Greg,

1:12:09

and he was simply saying, right, we aren't selling them. Nobody

1:12:12

wants these things, but this the administration forcing them down our throats. It

1:12:16

just ticks me off. Whether it's the extreme cold or the extreme heat,

1:12:20

it makes problems for these evens, or the infrastructure or how you get how

1:12:25

you are able to charge them, or how long it takes. There's just

1:12:28

so many problems. They don't even know what to do with the batteries once

1:12:30

they die. They don't have a safe way to even storm. So it's their environmentally conscious what are they doing there? All right? More coming up.

1:12:35

It's wing Men Wednesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

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Wednesday, final hour here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can

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1:13:01

Rush. I miss Rush. Rush been gone what three years? Now?

1:13:06

Yea? Too long? Is it that long? But when he talked about

1:13:09

this gentleman, he always called him f Chuck Todds. See as we laugh,

1:13:15

this is why we miss who, Thank goodness, is no longer the

1:13:17

host to meet the press. Yes, run out on rail. You know

1:13:21

he's gone. But he wrote an article in NBC News on their website today,

1:13:25

Greg about the two type of voters who will decide the election in twenty

1:13:30

twenty four. And let me read a little bit of this to kind of set it up, and then you and I can talk about it. He

1:13:33

writes this. He says, for as long as we've had elections, voters

1:13:38

have been in a running debate about whether to support the candidate who best served

1:13:42

their own interest or the candidate who best serves the Republic as a whole.

1:13:46

For many partisan voters, there's no real debate. Their own interest and their

1:13:50

beliefs about the greater good overlap quite a bit. He goes on to write,

1:13:55

some voters this year will respond to the aspirational appeals about what's the best

1:14:00

interest of America abroad and what's in the best interests of the country as a

1:14:03

whole. Others will be persuaded to rationalize their votes based on pure transactional feelings.

1:14:11

This person will keep taxes low. This person will stay out of the

1:14:14

way of business. Or, like my grandfather used to imply about voting in

1:14:17

Chicago in the fifties and sixties, this candidate will guarantee the garbage gets picked

1:14:23

up, especially if the entire neighborhood shows its support for the machine. So,

1:14:28

okay, do you vote in the interests of the country or do you vote in your own interests? What's saying here? So what f Chuck Todd

1:14:34

means by that is that the ruling elite their interests, okay, is what

1:14:42

he would argue, are the American interests. They're running the show. They're

1:14:45

in a club. You and I aren't involved. You and I aren't invited

1:14:48

to the club. That's the club that runs America. That is the detached

1:14:51

Chuck Todd who doesn't have to make, you know, pay a mortgage or

1:14:56

make make ends meet in any way. He doesn't understand any of this.

1:15:00

But they smoke screening saying we're doing this for the good of the country, and in fact they're doing it for their own benefits. That's right. If

1:15:06

there's a special interest out there in America, it's the crony capitalism. It's

1:15:10

when big business and big government merged. What he's saying, what he's implying

1:15:14

in that article to me, Rod, is if you want, if you

1:15:17

want a strong economy, well that's a special interest. If you want a

1:15:20

strong border, a protected border, that's a special interest. If you want

1:15:25

if you don't want wars all over the world, well that's a special interest.

1:15:28

You don't have the America's or our interests, the elites and our interests

1:15:32

in mind. You have those special to make you feel selfish. That's somehow

1:15:35

a good economy, public safety, a good border is somehow a selfish interest.

1:15:44

That is that is the land that America is the American dream, That

1:15:46

America is the land of opportunity. Everything I just mentioned, the economy,

1:15:50

the public safety, the strong borders, a strong military, that is the

1:15:55

American Those are American interests. They overlap perfectly with the everyday American that Chuck

1:16:00

Todd's never met and wouldn't know if they were sitting next to them. Yeah,

1:16:02

that's my team. Well, I agree with you because that's your personal

1:16:05

interests. You want to keep your family safe, you want good schools,

1:16:09

you want a secure a border. Right, that's a personal interest, but

1:16:12

it's also a community interest, and it makes you and it makes America stronger.

1:16:16

Absolutely, that's and that's the key. And that's what these these elitists

1:16:19

will never understand. They think the whole thing's decided in Manhattan, New York

1:16:24

City, and in DC and that's everything else and maybe Hollywood if you want

1:16:28

to throw it in. But after that, the rest of us don't matter.

1:16:31

See that, that's why they don't care if they if Eve's electric vehicle's

1:16:35

too expensive, Well, then don't drive. What's what's wrong with that?

1:16:39

What do we care? And they don't care. The only ones who are

1:16:42

driving the EV's are those who can afford it, and most people can't afford

1:16:45

it. They can't, And so I just think that they are social engineers

1:16:48

by nature. They see the everyday person as the unclean, the the uneducated,

1:16:54

the not as smart as them, not as sophisticated as them. And

1:16:57

the American way for them is the way they want to socialize, socially engineered

1:17:02

this country. And if you don't subscribe to that, well, then you're

1:17:05

you have a selfish interest about your your household income, a good economy America,

1:17:12

our national security but also our public safety. All those things have been

1:17:15

eroded in ways I never believe possible in one one president Democrat president's term.

1:17:20

And those are the things that he's trying to suggest. If you care about

1:17:24

that, you're being selfish. You should care about the greater good, which

1:17:27

is the America we want well, And I think Chuck is saying and there's

1:17:30

no doubt he's going to write after the Trump voter here in it's pretty obvious.

1:17:34

So basically what he's saying here, if you believe in making America first,

1:17:39

you're being selfish, that's right. Yeah, you may think you're saying

1:17:43

it for the good of the country, but really what you're saying this for your own self interest. And he said that's wrong. He said, my

1:17:47

grandpa used to say that we get the garbage picked up and everything else.

1:17:51

What's wrong with that? I mean, I mean, I don't know about

1:17:54

your garbage day, your neighborhood, but I've taken maybe I've taken that for

1:17:58

granted, but I would hope my city has as those services and that they

1:18:02

work, and that that's not a selfish interest that they do. Yeah,

1:18:05

I mean, I just I just find his that the fact that they think

1:18:10

this, let alone put it in writing and then push it out like it's

1:18:14

some high minded, uh you know, plea to the people. They don't

1:18:18

even know their audience anymore. This is why these the regime media is just

1:18:23

just crumbling in terms of ratings and success. Nobody believes them anymore. I

1:18:27

mean, I'm sitting here, I'm standing at a poll right here of Americans

1:18:30

two to one voters believe that Joe Biden. And this is I believe it

1:18:33

too, that Joe Biden is using the Justice Department to hobble former President Trump's

1:18:39

and jail him so that so that Biden can win in the election. I

1:18:44

mean, even independent voters believe that that's the case. And that's what's going

1:18:46

on right now. You've got Bobolinski testifying in Congress in real time to day

1:18:51

about real corruption that he has seen eyewitness, not propaganda like the regime media

1:18:56

and Joe Scarborough will call it is eyewitness. They got text they got they

1:19:00

got emails, They've got all of this. That is real corruption. That

1:19:02

is a Biden family that's making money over with adversarial nations. Okay, nothing

1:19:09

to see here, folks, Now you know that will so do you have

1:19:12

that? While you got Trump maybe having to lose Trump Tower to Letitia the

1:19:15

Age of New York because he can't pay afford the bond? Are you kidding

1:19:19

me? Let the American people keep seeing this the difference between these two.

1:19:25

I don't think it works out for Democrats. What is she going to do

1:19:28

in New York? Put a lock in chain on Trump Tower? I would

1:19:30

love to see her do it. As a matter of fact, I think

1:19:32

the American people would just laugh at this. I say, even even common

1:19:36

sense, fair minded Americans who may not like Trump. We'll look at this,

1:19:41

say this is just getting this is a civil settlement, and this is

1:19:45

and this Trump Tower. He cannot afford the bond, He can't pay it,

1:19:48

to bond it while he pro while he appeals the judgment in the case.

1:19:55

Well, if she wants to go ahead and you know, evict everyone

1:19:59

out of there and take that building over, I don't think that's great for President Trump. But the optics of that, you see, you will see

1:20:05

with your eyes the farce that it really is. And so I would love

1:20:09

to see what they're gonna do next if he can't afford that bond. Kellyanne

1:20:12

Conway, who used to run Trump's campaign and was in his White House,

1:20:15

said today, I think it was on Fox News this morning. There is not a bond or security company out there that will ensure for that amount of

1:20:21

money. They've never done it, they aren't going to do it. And

1:20:26

if he doesn't, if he doesn't stop this on appeal, the fix is

1:20:30

in. Greg. I mean, we already know it's very political. Just

1:20:32

another sign than it is. And again, you know, they just keep

1:20:36

jumping the shark, the Democrats do because I know that within their own circles

1:20:40

they think these are great wins. I think that it just erodes the trust

1:20:44

in confidence of the American people. Every single day they keep pushing this hard.

1:20:47

It's just it's it's beyond the pale. All right, more coming up

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1:21:39

We're all talking about Tyson. But I want to bring this up Greg real

1:21:42

fast. Glenn Harlan Reynolds, who is I think he's at the University of

1:21:46

Tennessee or lives in Tennessee. He's a columnist, very good guy, right,

1:21:49

was good friends with Dave Kirk. Remember when Dave ran the governor makes

1:21:54

us really nice cars. Let us ride in, but he makes us really

1:21:57

nice cars. What are they called Shelby's Shelby? Uh? Is it something

1:22:02

anyway? I know what you're talking about. It's good, Frank. Glenn

1:22:05

Harlan Reynolds the New York Post today said, you know, with all this

1:22:08

new information coming out about COVID, even the New York Times reported a couple

1:22:13

of days ago, how COVID none of the lockdowns and schools worked, didn't

1:22:16

stop the spreading the disease. The kids have been damaged by this. Glenn

1:22:20

Harlan Reynolds and his column today said, there's one person missing from this equation,

1:22:26

and he's not paying the price. Who do you think that is?

1:22:29

Fauci? Doctor Anthony Fauci. Absolutely, he is escaping with how many hundreds

1:22:32

of thousands of dollars in his pocket, if not millions, And he's escaping

1:22:39

any punishment or being called on the carpet for misleading this country and so egregiously

1:22:44

too. I mean, it's just it's it is, it's you know,

1:22:47

it's just pathetic, all right. Why doesn't business learn? Greg? You

1:22:50

know, you had the whole Dylan Mulvaney thing with bud Light and there have

1:22:54

been others, but now we've got this story about Tyson Foods. What is

1:22:58

going on with Tyson Foods, Greg, I'm furious about this is like again

1:23:02

we talked in the last segment about there's a club God and you and I

1:23:06

aren't invited. Okay. It's a bunch of elitists, big business and big

1:23:11

government merged a while ago. Don't know when it happened. I can just

1:23:14

spot it now, and the Tyson Foods is laying off hard working Americans in

1:23:23

real time. Well at the end at that time, they're also looking to

1:23:27

say, like as if they're out of compassion, we want to hire forty

1:23:30

two thousand. They call them asylum seekers. That what that is code for,

1:23:35

folks, are people that have entered this country illegally. If and when

1:23:40

they were stopped they said the word asylum. They were given a future hearing

1:23:44

date of years from now and go along their way. And it's just what

1:23:49

those hearings if they ever show, which they won't most of the time,

1:23:55

they don't qualify to be asylum seekers, and so they're supposed to leave.

1:23:59

But none of that part ever happens. These are just asylum seekers that Tyson

1:24:02

Foods wants to hire, while at the same time they have had thousands of

1:24:06

layoffs of hard working Americans, people that are trying to make ends meet.

1:24:11

This is again back to what is in what's your special interests versus the interest

1:24:15

of a strong nation. I don't know. I think a strong workforce,

1:24:17

you can raise a family and put food on the table and pay the bills.

1:24:21

That sounds like a That sounds like a mutual interest in a strong America.

1:24:25

That's that is not what Tyson's looking at as a company. They're looking

1:24:29

at, how can they improve their bottom line by helping the asylum seekers.

1:24:32

How can a company like Tyson who have had I bet over the years,

1:24:36

generations of people working for them. Right, regu would assume a company like

1:24:40

that, ye look face to face to those American workers and say, you

1:24:44

know, see you later. We've got some asylum seekers or migrants. They're

1:24:48

here illegally, by the way, they're going to replace you. How do

1:24:53

you look somebody in the face and and let's be let's let's frame this how

1:24:57

how how bad this is? You got to town in Iowa, Perry,

1:25:01

Iowa, there's eight thousand people that live in it. To give you a

1:25:03

comparison, there's like fifty plus thousand that live in Draper City in Salt Lake

1:25:08

County, Okay. So a city, a town of eight thousand people.

1:25:13

Nearly thirteen hundred of those residents worked at the Tyson plant and were just furloyd

1:25:19

furlough furloughed and laid off. And so out of a town of eight thousand,

1:25:25

one thousand, two hundred and seventy six people were given their walking papers.

1:25:29

That's going to hit that town in so many different ways. I mean,

1:25:32

do you think, as supply siders, when these people are paid every

1:25:35

two weeks or how often they're paid. They go to the supermarkets, they

1:25:40

go to the restaurants, they go the money that they spend when they're paid.

1:25:44

How does that hit that whole town, that small little town in America?

1:25:46

How are they But you know what, eight thousands just not a number

1:25:49

to care about. When you're Chuck Todd, when you're the regime media,

1:25:54

you give a whit about eight thousand people. You don't care. Now,

1:25:58

there is a positive side to the story, Greg, believe it or not.

1:26:00

There's a man by the name of Bill Flagg. He's the CEO and

1:26:04

co founder of the seventy nine million dollar American Conservative Values Head Fund Right.

1:26:10

He told the investors, I'm pulling out of Tyson Foods. Good for him.

1:26:14

I'm just out of here. I'm not going to put up with this anymore. He ditched Tyson Foods for replacing the US staff with migrants and more.

1:26:21

Companies need to do this right. No, I am, I'm with

1:26:26

you. I think that you know what's it's the bottom line. I think

1:26:30

that our consumer dollars matter. I think that I think Disney's learning a lesson.

1:26:36

They don't like to admit it, but I tell you what, even

1:26:39

marvel As remember those Marvel movies, the Marvel you know, Universe whatever they

1:26:43

call the MCU. Since they've gone woke, nobody cares about those movies.

1:26:47

No one goes in season, and they were such commercial successes. But if

1:26:51

you're gonna, if you're going to sacrifice people like this to try and take

1:26:56

asylum seekers, code illegal aliens that don't have a right to be here,

1:27:00

and hired them because they'll be chead. You know, that'll be less expensive. You know they're not going to pay them. How they devastated that town

1:27:04

of Perry and Iowa. They'll never have to pay those wages ever. Again,

1:27:09

So speaking of Disney, when we were down in southern California a couple

1:27:12

of weeks ago, we did did go to Disney, right, the one

1:27:15

thing that stood out to me we did the Pirates So the Caribbean ride.

1:27:18

Yeah, it is so politically correct on that ride anymore you were wouldn't recognize

1:27:23

it, Greg from three years ago. They have changed so much they do.

1:27:28

It is so politic I mentioned to one of my sons we were going

1:27:30

through it. I said, this is amazing, how politically correct this is

1:27:34

now. Yeah, by the way, our great listeners, uh Kirkham David

1:27:40

Kirkham's cars, Cobra's Cobra Cobra's that's what they're building. And I think I

1:27:45

got a ride in one of the ones they go fast man. Anyway, there's a great story about the background with that, where it was this old

1:27:50

Soviet factory build fighter planes and they loved and he was able to repurpose that

1:27:57

for these incredible you know what we need to do next week, get Dave

1:28:00

back on the show. I haven't had him on the show for a long time, just thinking to you know, his general thoughts. I would love

1:28:04

to hear. Yeah, I'd love to hear his thoughts. And bring a

1:28:06

car while you're at it, give us a ride, you know, all

1:28:13

right? Final segment of wing Man Wednesday. Coming up. Final segment of

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then he's an entertaining guy. He was here months ago selling his book,

1:28:46

and he's or something. He's super tall, very tall man, very old.

1:28:51

You know, I saw this article today Greg, and someone pointed this

1:28:57

out. You know, a big deal was made President Trump's comments over the

1:29:00

weekend about a blood bath, right, we taken totally out of context?

1:29:03

Yes, right, Well, listen to this. Someone put this together.

1:29:06

Let's talk about Joe Biden's bloodbath. Are you ready for some startling numbers?

1:29:12

One million dead babies because of abortion in America today, thirteen troops killed in

1:29:17

the withdrawal from Afghanistan. Fifty five hundred fifty five thousand deaths a year from

1:29:23

fentanol. I want to talk about a blood bath, how about those policies?

1:29:27

Yeah, I mean, and here's the thing. I mean, look,

1:29:30

I think I sent you when I saw that, So just you know,

1:29:33

just just it's you can use these terms, and if you don't have

1:29:36

a media that's trying to destroy a guy like Donald Trump, you can say

1:29:41

things like that without meaning, you know, having the worst interpretation possible.

1:29:45

So I had my So when we won the Ryder Cup in twenty one,

1:29:49

I think it was, uh, it was in America, and we won

1:29:53

pretty resoundingly. This is a golf tournament where America's best pro golfers play Europe's

1:29:58

best pro golfers. And so we won, won big and we've been losing.

1:30:02

So it's called the Slaughter by the Water. Okay, so slaughter by

1:30:05

the water, and it's a great queen Bee Christa got me this this shirt

1:30:10

commemorating, you know, the Ryder Cup country slaughtered and has an American flag

1:30:14

on it. In the back it says slaughter by the water. There's no slaughtering of Europeans involved in that shirt. There's no clutching the pearls and saying

1:30:23

look at the hate, look at what they want to do. Look how

1:30:26

they're threatening Europe if I want to slaughter them. The just these logical extremes

1:30:30

in the way that they speak to us the left. Oh yeah, they

1:30:33

treat us like we're fools. They treat us like we're idiots. And yeah,

1:30:38

and I just I gotta believe it's not working. I gotta believe that

1:30:41

these I don't I don't trust Poles, but my goodness, I can't believe

1:30:45

that they can get away with these logical extremes and making something out of nothing

1:30:48

the way they'd like to do. And it's building confidence in them. It's

1:30:54

got to be eroding the confidence in America, I would think. So.

1:30:57

One other note, Greg, before we get out of here tonight. Every

1:31:00

wallet Hub and this is this company that does surveys almost on a daily basis.

1:31:03

They ask all kinds of questions on their surveys. They do an annual

1:31:08

survey is as comprehensive survey of attractiveness of law enforcement careers across the US to

1:31:15

various states. Okay, what is the most attractive state to be a law

1:31:17

enforcement officer? And I don't get this. The top as was the case,

1:31:21

the top five locations California. Yeah, a police officer in California District

1:31:28

of Columbia with a crime wave going on there, Connecticut, Maryland, and

1:31:31

Illinois. Now my gas Greg and I don't know what they're thirty two issues.

1:31:36

My guess is based on pay and benefits because Utah, Utah ranks twenty

1:31:43

fifth. Yeah, I would think Utah would be a pretty good place to

1:31:47

be a police officer. My wrong, I mean, you hang around with

1:31:49

the sheriff's all design. So yeah, so the pay has increased. But

1:31:54

what we've seen, and what I've seen and what policymakers, Utah lawmakers are

1:31:58

seeing, is that when you started in twenty with these riots in these cities

1:32:02

burning, when when an inherently dangerous job, the media narrative was you were

1:32:08

the bad guy as well. Yeah, well then you don't even have people

1:32:11

whose family members have had a career in law enforcement encouraging their children or relatives

1:32:15

to be in law enforcement in an environment like that, and we're seeing the

1:32:19

legacy really emerging workforce being interrupted because of how how they're it's they're just under

1:32:27

siege. They're they're the bad guys. They're the ones that when they're when

1:32:30

the left talks about law enforcement is an assumed negative. And so there's people

1:32:35

like it's a hard job, it's hard to do, and so there's there

1:32:39

are issues that are beyond the pay. And I think it's the demonization of

1:32:44

law enforcement that we've seen going on, and we have a rising crime we

1:32:46

have all the crime wave that matches society, that starts to not not prioritize

1:32:53

public safety. Yeah, it's pathetic. I think today Greg's gonna be one

1:32:57

of the toughest jobs out there without it, without a doubt. Hey,

1:33:00

it's been fun today. Hey it is every Wednesday. I love wing Man

1:33:03

Wednesday. All our great Josh Hammer, he's great guest, and also Burger

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back. May God bless you and your family and this country. We'll talk

1:33:20

to you tomorrow. It's for good night.