0:01

Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Well this is too I hate

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too. Okay, I excuse this stuff to it hate deal don't oh will

0:12

we do? I just said that I'm not anything. I'm not any going

0:15

come on, let's go back. We're not going back. Just shut up.

0:18

Oh sure, don't go back. Okay, okay, don't go back. That's it. They won't let me tell you can. I get the

0:23

two guys a friendly piece of advice. Okay, don't ever go up to

0:26

the drive thru. Okay, always go up up to the county. You

0:29

know what I say. Deal with the drivel. Okay, do it the

0:34

drive drul They know you're gonna be miled away before you find out you got

0:38

the You know what? A lot of pressure, isn't there. Everybody's under

0:41

pressure holiday, we got bonuses fighting around some people others. There's there's you

0:48

know, there's rallies in BC. There's Supreme Court hearing. Okay, they

0:52

know you're not going to turn around and go back, so they don't care

0:54

who gets. Oh we gets okay, I don't give up. That happens

0:59

with all the tres. You can get all this pressure, and that's what

1:04

happens imbody do it. I'll thank you. Shut up, left jab right

1:08

hook. Yes, he's ready to deliver the next body blow. Guest toasting

1:12

for rod Art Cat Today, Greg Hughes' good afternoon, Good Friday afternoon.

1:25

Good, good Friday afternoon, Ladies and gentlemen. Here on the rod Art

1:27

Cat Show with your guest host, Citizen Greg Hughes here on Top Radio one

1:32

oh five nine can arrests. I don't know if you're happy to be back

1:37

that I'm back, but I'm happy to be back. Rod's taking He's gonna

1:40

take a long weekend. You know, he had a day off, had a best of show yesterday. I filled in on Wednesday, but uh,

1:47

you know he's gonna he's gonna just recuperate. He's just you know, getting

1:51

ready getting his game face on for a power pack shown next week. But

1:56

there's just too much going on. You cannot put two best of show together

2:00

at the same time. You got to get right to the issues that are

2:04

breaking in real time, that are happening right now, We're happening yesterday,

2:07

and so that's why I am back. I am back. Citizen Hughes is

2:10

back with you for the Roto Catch Show as your guest host, and we

2:15

have got quite the show for you today, ladies and gentlemen. We have some great interviews. We're going to have representative State Representative Ken Ivory. He's

2:23

going to join us on the program today and we're going to talk about an

2:27

interesting approach. It's actually gotten some national attention where the state of Utah is.

2:31

It has reserves, you know how they have rainy day funds and things

2:35

like that. They're going too wisely look at metals, look at some of

2:38

the commodities, the things that they could use as their savings that's not necessarily

2:44

just cash on hand. Sounds like a good idea. We'll talk to the

2:47

good state representative about that later in the program. Also joining us on the

2:51

program will be the former chief of staff of Oron Hatch. Now, before

2:55

you look, I love Oorn Hatch. President Trump when I interviewed him on

3:00

Caucus Night, said you like Worn Hatch well, Warren Hatches from Pittsburgh,

3:02

And I like Warren Hatch got along well with him, and I got some

3:07

stories I can't even tell you on the air where he'd yell at me. And that's why I love him. It's like a bonding moment when he yells

3:12

at me. But anyway, Warren Hatchet, we shouldn't have to put up

3:15

with this kind of study. Yeah, I heard that quite a bit actually,

3:19

but we got along. Well, we came from the same places,

3:22

so he got me, I got him anyway. His he had a great

3:25

chief of staff, Matt Sandrine, and just great guy. I remember when

3:30

I was serving as a Speaker of the House. Just a great conduit of

3:34

communication with the Senate through the chief of staff. And Matt is now the

3:38

executive director of the Hatch Foundation, And one of the focuses appropriately the Hatch

3:43

Foundation is that Senator Hatch ushered through Supreme Court justices making sure that there was

3:50

a fair process, that it wasn't a that it didn't get out of hand,

3:53

and when it did, that's when you saw Senator rang Hatch's teeth.

3:57

And no better example was the Thomas Clarence hearings from way back when I was

4:02

if you if you go back and remember that's when I and he and who

4:05

was he battling? Back then the Judiciary chair was a biden of all people,

4:11

and uh, he went toe to toe. So he had that library

4:15

and that in the Foundation has such a wealth of institutional knowledge and historical documentation

4:23

about our Supreme Court justices and how they were, how they were appointed by

4:28

presidents and ultimately if there are justices confirmed by the Senate. He writes an

4:33

amazing article about the judicial independence of our Supreme Court being under a full frontal

4:40

attack. And we know this right now. And I don't see. To

4:45

be honest with you, I don't see Matt Sandgren's teeth. Often. He's

4:47

a very diplomatic man. He's good, he's this, this, this off

4:51

ed. He does not pull punches, and he does really pull really expose

4:56

what the Democrats are trying to do to politicize the Supreme Court in a very,

4:59

very danger man. I don't know about you, but when Obamacare was

5:03

made was ruled to be constitutional, it was a gut punch. I could

5:09

not believe my ears. Justice Scalia said it was it was often to the

5:15

land of Sophists to argue the physicians they worked for that to actually be considered

5:20

constitutional. But I took it. I took it. I didn't You didn't

5:25

see me trying to disband the Supreme Court. You didn't see these radical comments

5:30

and us protesting outside the homes of Supreme Court justices by us. I mean

5:34

conservatives are those that feel like they're on the wrong side of a bad decision.

5:39

But not the Democrats. Boy, they are going to call you out

5:42

in a State of the Union address. Are going to go and protest outside

5:45

your house, which is against federal law. Even one gentleman that was arrested

5:48

was there to commit harm, maybe even homicide against one of our Supreme Court

5:54

justices. So we're going to talk to him about that. I think that's

5:56

an issue that needs to come up and be front and center. We're also

5:59

going to speak in the next segment. So for twenty we're gonna have my

6:02

friend Grover Norquist on Do you know does that name sound familiar? Grover Norquist.

6:08

He's the president, founder, and president of Americans for Tax Reform.

6:12

When I was a candidate or when I was a lawmaker, we would get

6:15

the pledge to not raise taxes sent to us and I could sign that pledge,

6:19

and he did that. Nationally, he has a what they call the

6:24

Leave us Alone Coalition. These are right of center organizations that in Washington,

6:29

d c. And nationally that look to have less government regulation, less government

6:33

interference, less of the government telling us what to do and let the free

6:39

market ride, let personal liberties reign. And Grover Norquist is such a strong

6:45

voice for that. Well, he has a great column about if Biden and

6:48

twenty promised everyone and you had his word as a Biden he said, which

6:54

right now, I don't know if that gets you for a bit, he

6:56

said, we will not tax anyone that makes less than a householding come combined

7:00

household income of less than four hundred thousand dollars. Well, with the way,

7:04

runaway, runaway, inflation has happened, and even today there's a report

7:09

the Commerce Department says, yep, it's up again. We're not surprised it's

7:13

up today again. It came out and we'll talk about that. I got

7:16

an article about that. But inflation keeps rising, rising, rising. If

7:21

you're not going to tax people in twenty twenty, when you said that President

7:26

Biden or candidate Biden at the time, that number, because of how much

7:30

inflation has eaten away the strength of the dollar, that there should be an

7:35

adjustment for inflation. On that commitment that who you're not going to tax because

7:40

four hundred thousand doesn't get you what it did in twenty twenty or during the

7:44

Trump administration. That's a that's a much lower number than it is now anyway.

7:49

So we're going to talk to Gordon about Grover excuse me, about his

7:53

column and what inflation has done to people's income. And if you're staring if

7:58

the if the irs and Biden staring at taxing people, boy, they should

8:01

take the what they've done to us all with the inflation into consideration on these

8:07

household amounts that they're staring at in the topic of our inflation. It's an

8:11

interesting thing inflation. What they don't count, folks, when they count how

8:16

much inflation has increased is food and energy. Well, those are pretty critical.

8:22

And if you look at just the food cost of food right now,

8:26

I think since Biden got into office, you're looking at at least a twenty

8:31

five percent increase in the cost of foods, of groceries. That is that

8:37

is not counted as inflation. Remember, as we've said, when you see

8:39

inflation go up by just a small point zero three percent in the last twelve

8:43

months, that is just an addition too. That's not that it's that it's

8:48

this old number and it's it's actually gone down. Inflation's gone down because it's

8:52

only point zero point three instead of some other number. Nope, that just

8:56

ads and it adds and it adds. It's two point eight percent highigher than

9:00

it was last year. It's zero point three percent higher than it was last

9:03

month. And if it was if that was weight we were talking about,

9:07

it's just getting fatter and fatter and you're not losing weight. And you don't

9:09

lose weight. If you if you saw the inflation rate up to ten percent

9:13

and then the next you know, the next measurement was five percent, you

9:16

can't say inflation went down five percent, you'd gained fifteen pounds, you didn't

9:22

gain twenty pounds. So that's that's the way inflation works. It's it's it's

9:26

kind of deceiving in the way it's reported. Surprise, surprise. But there's

9:30

this really cool app that the Trump campaign has put out. It's called Bidenmart

9:33

bidendashmart dot com and you can pick I picked my groceries. We're going to

9:37

talk about this again later in the show. I'll tell you the groceries I

9:41

picked and what those groceries costs. I try to get Queen Bee Krista to

9:46

confirm these costs. But these come from a Department of Agriculture right before Biden

9:50

took office, and what groceries cost today. I'm going to go through that

9:54

my grocery list. I made a little grocery list, and I'm going to

9:56

talk about how much it would have paid I would have paid in twenty twenty

10:01

and how much I am paying today for those same groceries. And that again,

10:05

that's what's happening with Bidenomics. Is this build back better? Is that

10:09

how it feels? Does it feel that way to you? Doesn't feel that

10:11

way to me? So we're gonna get into that, and then I will

10:16

tell you. And I don't know where I'm going to begin go to your

10:20

calls and land this topic, but this one came today and I'm still I'm

10:26

still just in shock. But does anyone remember Keith Oberman from ESPN. He

10:31

was a great I liked him on ESPN with Dan Patrick. I thought he's a pretty good guy, enjoyed his sarcastic sports commentary, and then he got

10:39

into the world of politics and he clean lost his mind. Keith Oberman has

10:43

to be one of the most deranged political extremists that is allowed to post on

10:48

social media. That has an opinion that people are willing to repeat or share.

10:52

He's a nutjob, truly. Well, folks, we've got our own

10:56

Keith Oberman here running around in the state of Utah. It's now today.

11:01

Maybe some of you have suspected it, but as of March twenty ninth,

11:05

it's official for me. And that is Gordon Monson of the Salt Lake Tribune.

11:11

This guy is a sports writer used to be. He's got an unbelievable

11:15

opinion piece that we're gonna we're going to talk about again and later in the

11:18

program, and I want I'm gonna want your calls on this. He The

11:22

headline of his piece is time for Utah Credit Union, America and Utah Worlds

11:28

to dump the America first name and logo talking about America First Credit Union.

11:33

Apparently, if you have that now, if you if you if you bank,

11:37

if you seek financial services at America First Credit Union, if you have

11:41

that that logo on your chest or on your stadium, you're a Nazi.

11:46

And I kid you not. He it is just basically, you're a Nazi

11:52

sympathizer if you have anything to do with America First Credit Union. So that's

11:58

that's worthy of our attention and our interpretation, I would say. So we're

12:03

going to get into that too later on in this program. That's going to

12:07

be a segment that I expect are the smartest listening on audience in the all

12:11

of the land to have a lot to say. So, look, when

12:13

we come back, we're gonna speak with Grover Norquist for the founder and president

12:16

of America's for Tax Reform. So you want to hang on through the break

12:20

and you're listening to Talk Radio one o five nine kN RS, Rod is

12:31

taking a break today. Guest hosting is one time candidate for governor Craig Hughes.

12:39

Welcome back to the Rod Arquet Show with your guest host, Citizen Hughes

12:43

on Talk Radio one oh five nine can RS and available everywhere on the iHeartRadio

12:48

app. As I told you at the beginning of the show, joining us

12:52

now is at Grover Norquist. He's the founder and president of Americans for Tax

12:56

Reform. And I've gotten to know Grover over the years as a state lawmaker,

13:01

as a Speaker of the House. I've been back to DC. This

13:05

man, ladies and gentlemen, he's doing great things. They got to leave us alone. Coalition with so many people from DC that are right of center

13:11

and fighting the good fight for our liberties self determination. He's just putting them

13:16

all together in a room and coming up with good ideas. Grover, welcome to the program, Sir Greg. Wonderful to be with you. I love

13:24

I love it when you join us. Thank you. I know you're a busy man. You have an article out and I think it's worth talking about.

13:30

And these things go over my head if I don't have you watching,

13:33

you know, watching the till making sure that we're getting treated fairly. Canada,

13:39

Joe Biden told everybody, Hey, I will not raise a single penny

13:41

of tax on any American earning less than four hundred thousand dollars per year,

13:45

which is a chunk of change. I guess that's a combined household income.

13:48

I give you my word as a Biden he said, which I don't know

13:50

how much weight that carries. But how's that promise going. I mean,

13:54

that's a big commitment by the president in twenty twenty. Well, heil and

14:01

not only that, but in keeping with the rest of his career, he

14:05

plagiarized that lie. That is the lie that Bill Clinton told he would only

14:13

tax people who raised tax on people who made more than a certain amount of

14:16

money. And of course he immediately tried to raise taxes on energy, which

14:20

hits everyone. But he got himself elected with the lie that he'd only taxed

14:28

them rich people. Then Obama got in and said he'd only raised taxes on

14:33

people who made more than two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year of any

14:37

kind, any kind of tax increased period. One month into his presidency,

14:43

he raised taxes on cigarette smokers average incoun fifty thousand dollars a year, and

14:50

then he went on to have eight different taxes in Obamacare which hit average citizens.

14:56

So one two Clinton live the White House and he wouldn't raise taxes on

15:01

people, just them one percent or two percent. Obama said the same thing

15:07

and lied, and Biden playediarized their lot and said that it would put four

15:15

hundred thousand right, He's picked an even bigger number. Are there a couple

15:18

of challenges with this? H One is, of course they do that number,

15:22

and people do the calculations. Then they go, well, we met

15:26

married couple. Even though they said any one, any one, any one,

15:30

they did not say any married couple, and so that changes it to

15:35

two hundred thousand. But safe keep alie at the four hundred thousand with his

15:41

inflation. If you were making three hundred and thirty thousand a year during when

15:48

during the campaign, you're now in his book a four hundred thousand dollars person,

15:54

because that you know that the inflation that is that has taken place.

16:00

So now another three four years of Biden, how much further does that go

16:07

down to hit people? And then of course cut it in half. Yeah,

16:11

because sometimes he says that's for person and sometimes it's my family. Uh.

16:15

He keeps bringing down the target. And this is why politicians who say

16:22

we're only going to tax the rich haven't finished the sentence. We're only going

16:26

to tax the rich. First venue we're speaking called trickle down taxation. Trickle

16:33

down taxation is right. We're speaking with Grover Norquist, founder and president of

16:37

Americans for TASH Reform. Now, Grover, here's the thing I did you

16:40

in your article. You give that little CPI calculator, the inflation calculator that

16:45

you can link to. Yeah, and so I put in one hundred thousand.

16:48

I'm like, okay, folks, let's let's put this to numbers that maybe are a little closer to the world that I know, at least,

16:52

what's one hundred thousand look like from twenty twenty, Well, that would that

16:56

you'd have to make one hundred and twenty two hundred and ninety four dollars,

17:00

so almost two two one hundred, twenty thousand, three hundred bucks to just

17:04

make that same hundred thousand. So that's you know, four years you've lost

17:08

or you better have received a raise of over twenty thousand dollars just for that

17:14

for the you know, from the time he took off ue till now here's

17:17

what I would like to ask you. This inflation number. It doesn't include

17:22

food or energy, does it. Well, Inflation is the devaluation of the

17:29

dollar in your pocket. Okay. There are policies that Biden and the Democrats

17:36

have put in to make energy more expensive, uh, to tax the inputs

17:41

to energy, to tax methane, to do various things to make it difficult,

17:47

shutting down pipelines. That's not a tax, but it does make energy

17:51

more expensive to get to you, so energy prices. And then of course

17:56

you have a number of states and in raising gasoline tax. And when you

18:00

go to the gas station. They tell you, you know, it cost

18:04

this much, and some of that is the additional state local taxes. So

18:11

food can go up faster, energy can go up faster than quote unquote inflation.

18:17

Inflation is sort of everything, and it's the value of the dollar,

18:22

regardless of what you're trying to spend it on, being worth less than it

18:26

used to be. And the dollar in your pocket is eighteen twenty percent less

18:32

valuable than the day that Biden was elected president. Because Biden was elected president,

18:38

it didn't just happen. My favorite comment is when he said it's all

18:42

because of greedy business men and women. Right Evidently, before Biden got elected

18:48

president, no one in the country was greedy. Then everybody became greedy.

18:53

I think he's a bad influence on children and others. You know what's amazing

18:59

is shout out the Union address. He kept just ripping on all these billionaires.

19:03

Go look at so is Zuckerberg and Bezos, all those guys they're engaged.

19:07

Whose side of this are they on? If they're contributing to Biden.

19:11

I think the fix is in Grover. I don't think he's going after him

19:15

like he's trying to tell the American people he is. He does seem to

19:19

get a lot of money from the people he pretends to oppose. Yes,

19:23

he does have a tax that he talked about. He's lots of taxes that

19:27

he's talking about. He wants to double the capitol games tax from twenty percent

19:32

up to forty four. More than double that, by the way, would

19:36

make it twice what China does. So investing in the United States would be

19:41

damaged twice as much as communist China, which is not where you generally think

19:48

of this as being. He wants to take the corporate income tax, which

19:53

is now lower than China's, to be higher than Chinas. So every American

20:00

worker who competes in the world starts behind the eighth ball, competing with China

20:07

and even France. Even even France would have a lower corporate income talk,

20:12

yes, man, who would make us worse than friends? Well, we're

20:17

coming up to a break, and it's probably a good time, because anymore and I'm going to start getting I'm going to feel even worse. I might

20:22

fall out of my Honestly, it's a but thank you for These are numbers,

20:26

and these are circumstances that people have to know that Bidenomics is not your

20:29

friend, folks. It is not working out well for us out here,

20:33

and we know this because of the good work of a Grover Norquist. Mister

20:36

Norquist, thank you for joining us on the program. Taker, thank you

20:41

very much. That's Grover Norquest from the Americans for tax Reform, kind of

20:45

shining a bright light on this inflation monster that is eating away our household income

20:49

every single day. I want to talk more about this and about the inflation

20:53

and even our groceries. We want to talk get dive in a little deeper

20:56

when we come back from the break, So you want to hang on listening

21:00

to the Rod Arcut Show with citizen Greg Hughes as your guest host on Talk

21:03

Radio one O five nine Canterus. Today, this stealer fan is not waving

21:10

his terrible towel, He's using it to dry off the eyes of American citizens.

21:15

Yeah, we're in deep todoo, folks, and filling in for rad

21:18

today is one time candidate for Governor, Greg Hughes. Welcome back to the

21:26

Rod Arquet Show on Talk Radio one O five nine KNRS, your guest host.

21:33

Enjoying your Friday, starting the weekend commute home or wherever you may be,

21:37

Citizen Greg Hughes. Remember, folks, if you uh, if you're

21:42

not sitting in your radio, if you're listening in the car and you want

21:45

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21:48

make sure if you don't have a radio at home, that you're getting that

21:52

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21:56

He sets it all up as a as a podcast after the programs over,

22:00

so you can always catch what you didn't make, which you didn't hear

22:03

on our podcast that comes up after the show. So we spoke with Grover

22:08

and Request about this inflation and our and our household income is shrinking in front

22:14

of our eyes. They want to say they are not taxing anybody at a

22:17

certain amount. Well, if you're just paying more out of your pocket for the same things that you were purchasing just a few years ago, call it

22:22

whatever you want. You don't have as much money as you had in your

22:26

pocket before Biden took office. And I don't know if it's because you know,

22:30

the Commerce Department today reported that inflation's gone up yet again. And if

22:33

some talking head gets on that television starts telling me that point three percent not

22:40

much, ignoring the fact that it's just adding over and over. That's a

22:45

one month point three but a two point eight percent increase over the twelve months.

22:49

And if they tell me that's not a big deal, it's just it's

22:53

going to drive me crazy. So, like I said, I don't know

22:56

if it's this Commerce Department report Friday that's got me on tilt, or if

23:00

it's the red Bull I've been drinking all day, but or a combination of

23:03

it. But I'm not. I am not happy. I am not I'm

23:06

frustrated. And we just had Grover Norquist just highlighting how our income is shrinking.

23:10

Four hundred thousand dollars before he took office is worth no more than what

23:15

what did we say, three hundred and seventy thousand now three hundred I'm no,

23:18

I'm sorry, three hundred and thirty seven thousand. Now if you made

23:22

one hundred thousand dollars and as a president Trump was leaving office, I hope

23:26

you got a twenty thousand dollars raise since then, because that's what it would

23:30

take just to hold serve, just to keep things where they were. One

23:36

of the things, and I mentioned I asked that Grover this, but let me elaborate. I asked about when I keep talking about, you know,

23:41

the Commerce department reporting, you know, the inflation's going up month over month,

23:47

year over year, and that number just keeps creeping up two point eight

23:49

percent, point three percent from a month ago. What it's not counting is

23:55

food and energy. Now you think about energy, you think about our energy

23:57

costs, as are shutting down coal plants. We enjoy electricity that's a lot

24:02

less expensive here than say places like California. Look at our gasoline costs.

24:07

Those are going up. Now. By the way, I just paid over. I just paid over four bucks a gallon. Again, I'm back over

24:11

four bucks a gallon. I thought we at least got a reprieve when he's

24:15

trying to you know, in election years, when when did they miss that

24:19

memo? I thought we'd at least get an artificial drop because he thinks that

24:23

people won't notice. But no, I paid over four bucks today. But

24:27

it doesn't it doesn't include that. It doesn't include groceries. So the Daily

24:33

Mail today had an interesting article and it's talking about your groceries. Since it's

24:38

something that isn't counted in that CPI Consumer Price Index, but it is,

24:44

as you well know, as we all know, going up straight up,

24:48

it has this. So I love it. So the Make America Great Again

24:52

ink pack gave an exclusive preview of the biden Mart website bidendashmart dot com website

25:03

and they let Daily Mail try it out. And so what it is is

25:06

you click on this biden Dashmart dot com and it gives you a grocery list

25:11

that you can check the things that you would buy. So I did this,

25:15

and I tried to think because I don't I'm I don't do the grocery

25:18

shopping, but I hear the narrative from Queen Bee Christa all the time,

25:22

and so I feel like I'm well attached to the incredibly quick, increasing prohibitive

25:30

costs of groceries as it hits our household income or our household budget. But

25:36

I tried to pick some of the things that I know that queenbe buy. So there's boneless chicken thighs, and so I picked those. Let's see a

25:44

per pound, So a pound of that I got. I got ground beef,

25:47

two pounds of ground beef. I got a five pound bag of potatoes

25:51

because we always have potatoes. Onions, three pounds. I don't know if

25:55

we need three pounds of onions, but it came in three pounds, So I got someone because we always have onions when she's cooking. And everything we

26:00

have that we like vegetable or we like fruits. We have oranges around,

26:04

so a three pound bag of oranges, some grapes per pound. Sugar.

26:08

There's always a thing of sugar there in the pantry. Cheese, we love

26:12

cheese in the Hughes Home. Yogurt, six yogurts. I don't eat the

26:17

yogurt, but we always have a yogurt on hand. Butter and twelve pack

26:21

of eggs. Does that sound like everyone's Does everybody buy that stuff? That

26:25

sound? That's that's what that's Those are the common items on a grocery list

26:29

in the Hughes Home. So I did the I did. I checked those

26:32

and this Biden dashmart dot com website when I checked those, immediately told me

26:38

that under President Trump, all those items that I just listed would have cost

26:44

us at the at the checkout thirty four dollars and seven cents. And by

26:51

the way, how do they come to these prices? Because I was just curious if this would reflect Utah's prices. How we got to the and I

26:56

wasn't able to find out for sure, but this is where they came up

26:59

with these prices. They went to the was it the food and drug Let's

27:04

see what it is. It's a there's a report that comes out from the

27:08

government. And they did this area right at the end of Trump's presidency.

27:14

So is there January twenty one or right before? And let's see, I

27:21

don't see it. Sorry, so anyway, but trust me, these are the nationally reported costs for these things. Oh. Here it is the United

27:27

States Department of Agriculture data from January of twenty one, when Biden first took

27:30

office, and then took those those the data from the Department of Agriculture from

27:36

that January twenty one to what those prices of those same items are today.

27:40

In January of twenty four, it was so what I pay today for the

27:44

same items I paid thirty four dollars and seven cents for with Bill Trump or

27:48

with Donald Trump, I would pay under Joe Biden fifty four dollars and fifty

27:55

four cents. That's a fifty one percent, fifty one point two eight percent,

28:00

So over fifty one percent increase in the cost of our groceries alone,

28:06

just in our groceries. And that's not the inflation. But oh, by the way, at the same time, because the Biden administration has incredible impeccable

28:11

timing, the EPA just put out a rule on heavy trucks ten to forty

28:17

percent of their fleet's going to have to be electric by years starting twenty seven

28:21

through twenty thirty two. This is going to hit our supply chain, how

28:25

everything, all these groceries I'm talking about, how they're delivered across this country.

28:29

That's going to hit the American families. That's going to make everything more expensive because guess what, we don't even have an infrastructure for electric vehicles,

28:36

for heavy duty trucks around this country. To even do it. It's a

28:38

collision course, but I think it's on purpose. But these numbers we're talking

28:42

about, they're not just percentages, they're not numbers. They are real moments

28:47

that we're living through in real time. That Bidenomics is couldn't be more anti

28:52

though everyday people of this country than you might realize. So the water's boiling

28:57

and where the frogs, folks so look, we're gonna come back. When

29:00

we come back from the break, well we'll keep talking. I got another

29:06

article about about this economy and how it's impacting just your everyday pocketbook, and

29:12

you need to know it. I know you feel it, but we're gonna

29:15

put words to it. So hang on through the break. You're listening to

29:18

Talk Radio one nine. Canter s from speaker of the Utah House to candidate

29:34

for governor and now a radio talk show host filling in for rod Is,

29:40

Citizen Craig Hughes. Welcome back. It's a rod Our Cat show here on

29:49

Talk Radio one five nine. Canter Suh. I'm your guest host, Citizen

29:56

Greg Hughes. Rod is enjoying some time off. He will be back Monday.

30:02

And I was here Wednesday, and then yesterday there was a best of

30:06

show. I think Rod he's such a workaholic. I think he really thought

30:10

he'd be back here with you today. But it's you know what, I'm

30:15

happy to be here, and so I kind of didn't let him in.

30:18

I said, you'd take a long weekend. But on yesterday I was in

30:22

Emory County for their Lincoln Day dinner and I was invited to. I think

30:26

they really wanted Rod, but he had he wasn't going to be able to

30:30

make it, so I think I was his wingman. And I spoke at

30:33

the Emory County Lincoln Day dinner and they are having their convention too, so

30:36

a lot of energy all the candidates. You know, you've got your candidates

30:40

for governor, you have your candidates for US Senate, you have competitive congressional

30:45

race third district there in Emery County is going on, and so you had

30:48

those, you had attorney General's races, of lots of buzz, lots of

30:52

things going on, and I was I was the keynote speaker there to speak,

30:59

but I got to tell you every but he was probably appropriately interested in

31:03

a the food, which was good, and mb meeting the candidates. So

31:07

it was a bit of a rough ride trying to share some thoughts at Lincoln

31:12

Day dinner when people were really there to get to know the candidates and everything

31:17

else. But I think the first couple rows or people that were closest to

31:21

the microphone heard me, but no, it was good. And their chairman,

31:26

Jesse Sloan, he's a listener to the show and he is a patriot.

31:30

If there is one, and he's so tall. I don't know how

31:33

you tell the man no, whatever his political opinion is, I'm just glad

31:37

it's conservative. Because a large man tall, he's a brute. And actually

31:42

everyone in the Emory County's built tough. They are. That's why in my

31:47

address and what we spoke about, we talked about our history as a country.

31:51

It's how the country was founded, not by being soft, not by

31:55

being reacting out of fear. At every single moment. It's really been leaning

31:59

in in the tough times. It's been about sacrifice, personal sacrifice. And

32:02

we've had, if we know our history, harder times than even the ones

32:07

we talk about right now. And that's why I know Michael Flynn recently said,

32:10

in the arc of time, the long arc of time, the good

32:14

guys win, and I believe that, I really do. And so I

32:17

think when we do all that we can do, and then when we've done

32:22

as much as we can do, I think the guy, the man upstairs is looking after this country as well. And I think that, but it's

32:29

going to take all of us. It's going to take a combined effort. And so had a great, great night there and again patriots if you're listening

32:37

to this program and you've not been to a caucus meeting, if you've not

32:40

been a county or a state delegate, I would really encourage you to look

32:44

into that, understand it more, and get involved and see that your neighbors

32:47

and your precinct might be willing to vote you in as a delegate, in

32:52

a county delegate to meet candidates running for the legislature and for county office and

32:59

for state deligate. It's for our federal offices and our state wide offices and

33:02

our congressional offices. It's the only election cycle, it's a higher information election

33:07

cycle where you get to ask hopefully candidate's hard questions. I've lived through that.

33:12

It's a refiner's fire, and I think one of the most important moments

33:16

that delegates learn is if they have a question it's hard and the candidate can't

33:20

read the room very well. They don't know if their answer is going to

33:22

be well received or not. Sometimes they try to dodge or reframe it or

33:25

try to avoid answering it. That's a problem. It's better to see someone

33:30

even if the unless the answers suit really really bad. It's almost more important

33:34

that they're willing to give you, level with you and give you their best

33:37

case for where they're at, because that'll be the kind of public servant they

33:40

would be. If they're too afraid to answer the question and have a hard

33:44

conversation, that's a kind of public servant or politician they would be. So

33:47

great things going on around the state right now. Great race is happening.

33:52

When we come back, we're going to talk to Matt Sangrain, former chiefest

33:54

staff or Center Hatch and executive director of the Hatch Foundation, talking about the

33:59

attack on the judiciary. Hang on after this break, Gay Row, They

34:21

down, guy left, jab right, hook loaded up on questions to make

34:37

you think filling in for ought today, Crank Hughes. Welcome back to the

34:47

Rod Arcut Show with your guest host, Citizen Greg Hughes here on Talk Radio

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35:00

the program becomes a podcast after we are finished here, so you can catch

35:05

every important hour of this three hour drive time show as you're getting ready for

35:10

your weekend. As I mentioned before the break, we have a great guest

35:15

joining us on the program. Matt Sangrin. He used to be the chief

35:20

of staff of Senator Range Hatch. He is currently the executive director of the

35:23

Hatch Foundation. And I got to know Matt a long time ago. I

35:27

was a I'm a recovering politician today, but I was a public servant at

35:30

the time. And I'll tell you there could not be a better one two

35:35

punch than the Senator with his chief of staff, Matt Sangrin. Matt,

35:38

welcome, Thank you for joining us on the program. It's your speaker.

35:43

You're always be a speaker to me. It's so good to hear your voice.

35:45

Greg. Thank you. Now, look, Matt, I've known you for a long time, and I think one of the things that I would

35:50

say I know about Matt is that there's a diplomacy, there's a there's a

35:54

you know, you used to have a soft touch, as as good chiefs

35:58

of staff I would imagine should have in the US Senate. But this editorial,

36:02

this piece that you wrote, I see some teeth, mister sandgrin some

36:07

I see some real concern. I see a little bit of leaning in. I think the elbows might be a little sharp, which is a good thing,

36:13

you know in my book, and I would argue in the Center Hatches

36:16

book as well. But you make a very bold you say that that those

36:22

that are just satisfied with the court's rulings, especially the Supreme Court, are

36:25

targeting the judiciary itself. It is time to push back. That is how

36:30

you start out this piece, maybe you could share with our listeners is what

36:35

is it? How are they trying to intimidate or how are they trying to

36:39

influence the outcomes of the Supreme Court? Well, Greg, for something's going

36:45

to be with you, and I will say this. This is something that the Hatch Foundation, the Orangy Hatch Foundation, we've been talking about for some

36:52

many years now. In fact, a couple of years ago, even during

36:57

the pandemic, we hosted a webinar with Senator Mike Lee and it was focused

37:01

and dedicated to court packing for the listeners and the non lawyers out there.

37:08

You don't have to be a lawyer for that matter, but when you dilute

37:12

the Supreme Court with more justices because you may not agree with the leaning of

37:17

the court, that's called court packing. And so we've been talking about this

37:22

for a while, but it's it's been something that we've been following. Now

37:27

is something that as you agree, as you pointed out, I agree with

37:30

you. It's we're going to get a little more out there because we're concerned

37:34

about preserving the integrity and the independence of the Supreme Court or the judiciary.

37:38

Right, Yeah, so it's go ahead. I was just going to say

37:43

that there's an independence with this court. Look, I've been on the wrong

37:45

side of some of these decisions. I could not believe that Obamacare was who

37:50

was found constitutional? It just blew my mind. I have been on the

37:52

wrong side, But I think a lot of Americans who have been disappointed by

37:55

decisions of the Supreme Court have not done what we're seeing the left do.

38:00

And I'm pointing out the left. You probably are not, but I am.

38:04

And I'm telling you, I didn't see the homes of justices being picketed.

38:07

I didn't see someone caught with weapons trying to get to Justice Kavanaugh's home.

38:13

I didn't see the types of things that we're seeing today. I guess

38:16

my question is there's an independence with this with this judiciary. Given this independence,

38:22

you talk about a disturbing quote something that Senate Democrat leader, Majority Leader

38:30

Chuck Schumer said on the steps of the Court when he called out after a

38:35

hearing and deliberation over abortion rights. He called out Justices Gorsich and Kavanaugh by

38:39

name, and he said, you have released the whirlwind, and you will

38:44

pay the price given the independence of this Supreme Court. What kind of price

38:49

is he talking about? What would that even be? Right? I mean,

38:52

and that's that's exactly what we're trying to get at. You know, I served on Capitol Hill for over fifteen years, close to a death aid

39:00

on the Senate Judiciary Committee as Senior Council the Senator Hatch. I watched the

39:06

confirmation hearings of Alito roberts So to Mayor Kagan. I ended my time as

39:14

chief of staff watching Kavanaugh and obviously Gorsage, and I will tell you during

39:19

soda Mayor and Elena Kagan, both of whom were appointed by the Democrats.

39:25

I never saw the level of disrespect that I watched UH during the confirmation hearings

39:34

of UH, especially Brett Cavanaugh. I've never heard our Majority leader at the

39:40

time, Mitch McConnell go to the Supreme Court steps and call for you know,

39:45

the whirlwinds to be unleashed. There's something that is being lost, and

39:51

it's something that we as Americans, whether you're a Republican or a Democrat,

39:53

or an independent for that matter, we should all care about preserving the integrity

39:59

of our institutions, and the US Supreme Court is one that must maintain its

40:06

independence. We don't release names of the justices' home address as in phone numbers

40:12

or doxing, as they call it. We don't, you know, do

40:15

these fake congressional ethics inquiries. They already have their own ethics, judicial ethics.

40:22

They can take care of themselves. We don't need to have another branch of government imposing their will on an independent branch of government known as the judiciary.

40:31

Craig, you know, I began that off at it, said,

40:35

you know, we have two political branches, right, We've got the executive

40:38

and the legislative branch. We all stand them as very political, but the

40:43

judiciary is different. They are it's not supposed to be political. The founders

40:49

had that vision and our country we've lost that. We're starting to allow we

40:54

think that we can bully our way into getting the way we want our decision

41:00

done, and if we don't agree with them. Then let's dilute it,

41:02

let's dilute the courts, or let's go after them personally. Lawyers should know

41:08

this more than any of them. If you want to make a good argument,

41:12

do it through your briefs and your arguments, but don't do personal attacks.

41:16

Don't put their lives that in harm's way. That's not how we do

41:21

things here in the United States, and we can't do it. There's a selective logic. I couldn't agree more. There's a selective logic and outrage happening.

41:28

It's coming from the left, where where they all of these types of

41:31

behaviors are completely permissible if the left doesn't like the outcomes they're getting. But

41:37

then democracy is under complete attack if it's something that is of the other way

41:42

around, which I can't imagine how you could assault our three branches of government

41:45

and our democratic republic more than trying to intimidate and make the independent judiciary less

41:52

independent. Here's my other question. I in the state we here on the

41:57

show, we call it the Shout of the Union, shout at the Union

42:00

address. It was not really the State of the Union. It was kind of the Shout at the Union address. But he called out the president.

42:06

President Biden called out those justices sitting in that joint session. Never been done

42:10

before. It has never been done. And that's what I was going to

42:13

ask you. Have you ever seen something like that? And he said there

42:16

were consequences coming if I remember correctly. We just can't we cannot begin.

42:22

We can't go down this path. And again I would say either party,

42:27

and I'd say this is the Republicans as well. Let's take note, let's

42:30

not do this. We're better than this. We cannot open this up,

42:36

and unfortunately has Let's be better than this. Let's not go after our justices,

42:42

our court that is supposed to be entirely independent from this political whirlwind that

42:50

we have. Always look at what's happening on Capitol Hills. It's always back

42:54

and forth, ping pong, back and forth. We cannot We've got to

42:58

keep these folks that do not have term limits. They they're not subjected to

43:02

the election. Let's let them do their jobs without these threats now of the

43:08

state of the Union. That was very disappointing to me. Just a couple

43:14

more questions. So in your article, will point out something you mentioned it

43:16

already, these ethics and we all want ethics. Certainly that is not something

43:21

that we don't want. The activists and those that don't like the decisions that

43:25

come out of come from people like Justice Amy Coney Barrett. They are so

43:30

critical of a book deal. So she did a book deal, Matt,

43:35

Now, I didn't know she was the only justice to ever have a book

43:37

deal. So this is an outlier. This must clearly be an ethical problem

43:42

that she had a book deal. Am I wrong? No? I mean,

43:46

I don't know. If you recall the Orangey Hats Foundation, we brought

43:52

We've brought two Supreme Court justices to Utah. We're guilty as charged. We

43:57

brought Neil Gorsich to be yu and guess what. We gave over a thousand

44:04

copies of Justice Gorse It's Gorsach's book to all the attendees. They're all the

44:09

students. Did all this for free compliments of the foundation. Yes, we're

44:15

guilty as charged. And then we brought Justice Clarence Thomas. We did another

44:19

private event with him, and we also gave everyone his book and he personally,

44:23

both Justice Gorsich and Justice Thomas, they signed their book. That's what

44:28

they do. Guess what we want to learn about their lives and their remarkable

44:31

wives. So the notion that we're now going after Amy Cony Barrett for her

44:36

book, I mean, look at what justice by your She was selling her

44:42

books in uh law school bookstores asking them to buy her books. I mean,

44:47

come on, I think we should read everyone's books. I don't have

44:50

a problem with justice. So so you have this double standard here. So

44:55

you're saying that like Ruth Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and Soda Mayor,

45:00

they write books. Who knew not the Democrats. They didn't know this.

45:04

This is all breaking news right here on our kitchen. All right. They

45:08

all write their books and we all should learn from them. There's a lot

45:12

to learn from everyone. And I just I think the notion that we're now

45:15

going after these particular judges for no good reason. Again, the foundation is

45:22

guilty as charged. We're very pleased to welcome them. We loved having them

45:24

here in Utah. It's such a good it's a wonderful opportunity to welcome them.

45:30

And the lessons that we're able to learn their feet, it's just remarkable.

45:34

We're grateful for them. Matt Sangrin, former chief of Staff of centat

45:37

Orrin Hatch executive director of the Hatch Foundation. Thank you for joining us on

45:42

the program. Just for yes or no? Is there any chance they can

45:45

pack the court? Are Is there a chance they can do this? For

45:47

real? There's always a chance. It really depends on how things go.

45:52

If the Senate goes out of their hands, if the Republicans everyone protect So

46:00

the Republicans may win the Senate this November. But if they don't and they

46:04

have happen to take the House and they keep the White House, you could

46:09

have the perfecta. If they have that, yeah, they could take the

46:13

court. Well that's a good gospel. It's a very good warning. I

46:15

know you're a very very busy man. Thank you Matt for joining us on

46:19

the program. Very enlightening. Happy Easter, do you? Happy good good

46:22

Friday too, Hey, keep up the good work, keep it okay,

46:27

and keep it edgy. I like it. It's it really is orange Hatch

46:30

ask okay, very very diplomatic, but when you got to show your teeth

46:32

a little bit, I love it. Thank you so much. Thank you.

46:37

All right, folks, we're going up on the break. When we come back. This is we've got. This is my Keith Oberman. It

46:43

has gone completely insane Utah version with the Salt Lake Tribunes Gordon Monson, I'm

46:50

going to get into the I don't even know what to call it, because

46:52

I won't call it an article. This, uh, this this whatever he

46:58

wrote this screed, I guess it is. We're gonna get into that when

47:00

we come back. I don't think I hope you're sitting down when we come

47:04

back from the break, because I think you'll be shocked by its content.

47:07

So you want to hang on. You're listening to Talk Radio one O five

47:09

nine canters. He's waving a terrible towel for the Steelers and for commons sense

47:27

Americans. Guest hosting for Rod today is one time candidate for governor, Greg

47:31

Hughes. Welcome back to the Rod Arquet Show here on Talk Radio one O

47:46

five nine KNRS. I'm your guest host, Citizen Greg Hughes, manning the

47:52

mic for Rod as he's going into the long weekend, a little bit of

47:59

of rest, but he'll be back in action on Monday. But we just

48:04

couldn't do another best of Boy. We got a lot to talk about,

48:07

a lot of breaking news lots going on right now, folks. There was

48:10

an editorial that came out today and by Gordon Monson. Gordon Monson, as

48:15

I know him, has been a sports writer for the Saltlake Tribune. He's

48:22

been on the radio. He had a radio on a sports sports channel radio

48:28

channel, he had a show he was a co host on, and then

48:32

I think he did some of those Sunday night sports shows after the evening news

48:36

on Sundays. So he's been around. I mean, I'm aware of Gordon

48:40

Monson's voice and his opinions for quite some time, and they used to be

48:45

well, well within the realm of Jazz University Utah sports BYU sports things like

48:52

that. Well, I don't know what's going on with the man, but

48:54

it just the career path of Gordon Monson the sports writer and where he is

49:00

today, especially with this editorial I'm staring at right now. It reminds me

49:05

of ESPN's Keith Oberman. If you remember Keith Oberman in the back in the

49:09

day when he was just a pure sports guy sitting at the desk with Dan

49:15

Patrick on ESPN giving funny, pithy commentary about the sports highlights and everything that

49:22

was going on. It was fun. I enjoyed. I enjoyed Keith Oberman,

49:25

and I thought that he and Dan Patrick made a great duo in sharing

49:30

the sports. And back then we didn't have the internet, man, so we'd all hover around the TV at night to see if our teams won.

49:36

During the day, watched the highlights if it's baseball season, to see which

49:39

wait for your team's highlights to finally come across. So anyway, different time.

49:45

Well, Keith Oberman, I don't know why he left ESPN, but

49:49

he decided he was going to enter into the realm of political commentary, and

49:52

so he was hired by MSNBC and he went on to become stone cold crazy.

50:00

I don't even he got so crazy that MSNBC didn't want him around anymore.

50:04

In the in the most in the latest I don't know which Supreme Court

50:07

decision Keith Oberman didn't like, but he declared it was time to abolish the

50:12

Supreme Court. We just got done speaking to Matt Sangren Sangrine about the h

50:16

from the Hatch Foundation, talking about protecting the integrity and the independence of the

50:21

judiciary, particularly our Supreme Court justices, and what they're going through right now

50:24

through the intimidation tactics from the left, and Oberman doesn't want to intimidate him.

50:30

He just wants to abolish the whole thing in the name of democracy.

50:35

Well, now we have Gordon Oberman Monson. Okay, Gordon Monson is saying,

50:43

and this is the headline. Time for a Utah Credit Union and the

50:45

Utah Royals to dump the America First name and logo. Some have scoffed at

50:52

the soccer fans who have protested the sponsorship. But the idea deserves a deeper

50:57

look, and he gives it. Doesn't just give it a deeper look.

51:00

He basically amen corners it. He says it's the right thing to do.

51:04

So America First Credit Union, I can honestly tell you that I've been that

51:07

America First Credit Union has been rolling off my tongue as a credit union,

51:10

like there's Mountain, America America First, things like that. So financial institutions

51:15

and their names, America First Credit Unions. This name is eighty five years

51:20

old, but it has been decided that because it's become the sponsor of the

51:27

Royals Utah Royals, and it's actually if you look at the real soccer stadium

51:31

now it's now the America First stadium, it's been named, they have naming

51:36

rights. There are lunatics out there that have decided that that's the America First,

51:40

I guess Donald Trump's talking about. But worse than that, folks,

51:45

did you know that in the mind of Gordon Monson? And I guess a

51:49

lot of leftists out there that are just finding ways to divide this country and

51:52

everyone inside this country, America First is racist? America First? Really,

52:00

when you say it, if you don't have a problem with it, you're sympathetic with the Nazis. Did you know that? Did you know it's anti

52:07

Semitic? Did you know that America First? Those two words put together makes

52:10

you sympathetic to Nazis and makes you racist and makes you an anti semi.

52:16

And I'm not kidding, that's exactly what he thinks. He says, no

52:21

matter what America First intends for its name to represent, and it makes an

52:25

argument that it stands for communal good to too many people, America First imagine

52:30

that being good. Historically speaking, it does not represent communal good. It

52:36

represents racism, It represents anti Semitism, it represents isolationism, it represents xenophobia,

52:43

it represents keeping America the way at once supposedly favored to be back when

52:47

it was largely white Protestant. Some even link it to the Nazi ideology.

52:52

It represents an extreme political movement, unbecoming of a company that wants to be

52:58

of service to all Utahn's He says, read up, read the history,

53:02

because he's so smart and you are not on the term on the dark side

53:07

of its duality. I don't have to Gordon Keith Oberman Monson, Uh,

53:15

America First Credit Union has not one thing to do. Oh, by the

53:20

way, you know the eagle, that's the American eagle that they have on

53:22

there, that's that's not an American eagle. That's not our national you know,

53:25

the the symbol of this country of which you will see. No,

53:30

that's a Nazi eagle. Did you know that he really does believe that that

53:34

has too that similarities are too close, uh, to the to the nationalist

53:40

you know, the Nazi eagle or whatever it is. So here's my here's

53:45

my thing. Does Gordon Monson have friends that are minorities? Does he have

53:52

any? Because I do I have? Yeah, yeah, yeah, here's

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a here's a deeper question. I asked you. I just asked the rhetorical

53:59

question, does we will Gordon Monson have friends that are minorities? A better

54:01

question, does he have any friends at all? I mean, what does

54:05

he do? Because I think he might be drinking and writing at the same

54:07

time. I hope he's not eating those funny gummies that Kirby, who used

54:12

to work at the Tribune, was handing out and got fired for. But

54:15

I don't know if he was in his right mind when he wrote this. But if he had any friend the different race color creed, you would find

54:22

that not one single time in his association with his friends would there be hand

54:28

ringing and pearl clutching over America First Credit Union. It never comes up.

54:31

It would never come up if he didn't write about it. And the only

54:35

reason why we're talking about it is because this is a clarion called warn you

54:38

about a guy like this. Now, this is what I'd like to do

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eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. If I'm seeing this

54:45

wrong, if there's something I'm missing about this, I would love to hear

54:49

from you. I always love to hear from our the smartest listeners in all

54:52

the land. Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero should America

54:59

first be stripped from the uniforms of the Utah Royals soccer team, and should

55:05

it be stripped off of the real soccer stadium because it is Nazism and it

55:08

is racist and it is anti Semitic. What say you, folks? Eight

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a eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. We're gonna go to your

55:17

calls when we come back after this break. You're listening to Talk Radio one

55:21

oh five nine can RS proving there can be life after politics and you can

55:30

still be trusted filling in for rod arkat once again. Here's Greg Hughes.

55:42

Welcome back. So I will admit, folks, this article has me on

55:49

tilt. I'm trying to be your calm, staid, steady guest host Citizen

55:57

Hughes here on Talk Radio one oh five nine CAN. But uh, I

56:01

don't know. I looked it up. You know, we have a Utah

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First Credit Union. Well, isn't that a little biased towards the state of

56:09

Utah that you would have a Utah First credit union. We have a Deseret

56:13

First Credit Union. Well, I they what kind of what kind of preferential

56:17

treatment should would we give the Deseret That that seems wrong. There's called a

56:22

first credit union. They're just first. They don't even have another word attached

56:25

to it. They're just first credit union. Then you get to the banks.

56:28

Remember for security, how about how about first Republic Bank? Okay,

56:32

well the Republic, it could be the United States and first Well, Gordon

56:37

Monson is going to go crazy when he finds out how many financial institutions in

56:43

Utah, in this country have the dreaded word first in its name. Let's

56:47

go to the phones. Let me see. Maybe I'm just maybe I'm just

56:51

overreacting. Let's go to the calls, and let's go to Mike in in

56:55

West and South Jordan. Mike, uh, here you go, Mike South

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Jordan. Thank you for joining us. Sir? What say you am?

57:02

I am I overreacting? Here? Is this fine? Is this Nazism in

57:07

our face? You know? I don't get it. Do you know when

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America first was found? It it says it's eighty five years ago. I

57:20

haven't done the maths. I looked at it. Yeah, I looked it

57:22

up. It was nineteen thirty nine. Okay, while I was on hold,

57:27

I looked up just what you mentioned. There were fifty banks that I

57:30

could see that had first at the beginning of their name, not to mention

57:36

all of the banks that probably have First within the name, which is probably

57:38

another one hundred and fifty. But anyway, my point is that this doesn't

57:44

really have anything to do with our current political situation. I mean, it's

57:51

just it's crazy. It's people just wanting to complain about things when things like

57:57

this come up. And to your point earlier, the fact that you know,

58:02

America First has been around forever. Donald Trump has been in the political

58:07

field for many, many years. And yet now, I mean America First

58:13

came out back in twenty twenty or prior to that. But yet now we're

58:20

just hearing about this now because the Royals had a game and there were people

58:24

from the other team that came into the stadium and saw the America First sponsorship

58:30

and decided they were going to get all bothered about it and complain about it.

58:37

And now that they've done that, now it's just a whirlwind and it's

58:39

just spread like crazy. It's so true. Mike. Thank you for your

58:43

observation. Thanks for your research too. I love that you have fifty banks

58:45

that have the word first at the beginning the number, the word first throughout

58:50

these it is, we have it everywhere. Numbers. I'd love for you

58:54

to call in eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero eight eight

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eight five zero eight zero one zero. Should the Utah Royals should they take

59:04

America First off their jerseys? Should America First be taken off the stadium of

59:08

the real stadium. That's the question for you. You know what it reminds

59:14

me of. It reminds me of when the New York the New York Times

59:19

and the Washington Post reporters were on the border and they saw the border agents

59:22

on the on the horses, and they mistook the reins of the horse as

59:27

whips, and they began to report to the American people that these border patrol

59:30

agents were whipping that the illegal immigrants, for those attempting to enter the country

59:37

illegally. And all it took was not to be ignorant about what you were

59:42

seeing. What bothers me about this story is it's fine, not fine.

59:46

But if you didn't know that America first, credit unions here and I've never

59:50

actually put it together, frankly, that America First, and Donald Trump's vision

59:54

of America First in terms of our manufacturing stopped going overseas our borders, we

59:59

protect them, we value and we prioritize this country and all that stands for.

1:00:04

Had no idea, it didn't even connect it to the credit union,

1:00:07

but out of town people did. Okay, maybe they're not used to seeing

1:00:12

it, but for home, for this, Gordon Monson to jump on that

1:00:15

bandwagon and say to do it. By the way, we've got a if

1:00:20

there's a first US Community credit Union. I hope he's ready to tell him

1:00:23

first US is the same as America First. I hope he wants to get

1:00:27

rid of that too. I mean, it's just not consistent. It's blather

1:00:31

in my opinion, and so I just think it's it's something that we should

1:00:35

talk about. Let's go back to the phones and we go to Julie.

1:00:39

Julie and Saratoga Springs. Julie, thank you for calling the program. What

1:00:43

say you? Well, thank you for bringing this up. I think everything

1:00:49

you've said is exactly correct. I mean, this is ridiculous, and we

1:00:52

can't let basically these bullies come into Utah and tell us that, you know,

1:00:57

we need to change our our beliefs are what we stand for, and

1:01:01

all of that stuff. I've I have done business with America First Credit Union

1:01:07

since probably nineteen ninety three when I moved here for college. I was here

1:01:14

for five or six years, and then I went out of state for probably

1:01:16

about almost twenty I came back about seven years ago, and the entire time

1:01:22

I was out of state, we continued to do our business, our financial

1:01:28

business through America First. And I just have to say that, like if

1:01:31

I'm just really curious to see what happens, how America First is going to

1:01:35

respond to all of this, How the you know, the real stadium is

1:01:40

going to respond to this, you know, And if there's pressure and they're

1:01:45

pressure to change their name or pressure to take all of their you know,

1:01:47

their stuff off, I will be so disappointed in these organizations like the America

1:01:52

First, you know, is pressured to change their name or anything like that,

1:01:55

I would definitely take my business elsewhere, ye Jordans, Yeah, I'm

1:02:01

just unfortunate. I agree, And I do think that sometimes as consumers,

1:02:06

that's the only thing we have to speak with our voice. Thank you for

1:02:10

your call. I appreciate it. We have more callers, but look,

1:02:14

i'd love we got to go to a break, but when we come back,

1:02:16

we're going to We're going to keep going on this issue because I want

1:02:20

to hear from callers. So if you're on hold, stay on hold eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. When we come out of

1:02:25

the break, I want to get keep going on this issue because he says

1:02:29

in here very blatantly, the name and logo in question, they hurt people,

1:02:32

They hurt many others. Do you really think that America First Credit Union,

1:02:37

the name America First is currently in real time right now hurting people and

1:02:42

should be removed from the jerseys of these soccer players and from this stadium.

1:02:46

Love to hear from you. Get your calls when we come back. Eighty

1:02:49

to eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. When we come back with

1:02:53

your calls, So call in and stay on hold. Those that are on

1:02:57

we'll get back to you. Here on talk radio one of five Canoris from

1:03:04

the Steel Mills, so Pittsburgh to the Mountains of Utah. Guest hosting for

1:03:08

RAD today is citizen Greg Hughes. Welcome back. You get a short segment

1:03:21

here before the top of the hour, so let's go straight to the phones.

1:03:25

Gordon Monson saying this is klu klux Klan, this is uh this is

1:03:30

everything that's wrong America. First, those two words together has all the negative

1:03:35

connotations, and if you don't know it, he thinks you're ignorant for not

1:03:37

knowing this. Let's go to the phones. Jerry in Oakley, thank you

1:03:42

for joining the program. What's say you? Oh? I say this is

1:03:46

invasion of the pearl clutchers. What is it about women's soccer that wants to

1:03:52

destroy women's soccer? This sounds like the Megan with the purple hair going on

1:03:58

to bence women's soccer. I don't everyone is see one of those games we

1:04:00

used to like going to our to our girls game in the high school and they played soccer. But what about First Baptist? Is that wrong too?

1:04:08

First? Oh, there you go, there's a First and a Baptist put

1:04:11

together. Well, there has to be something wrong with that. Yeah,

1:04:14

yeah, I just know nothing could be more racist than the Dixie Cups.

1:04:17

Yeah, well you know they tried already. I got rid of Dixie State

1:04:21

University because it was so bad. How about sea first bank? See first?

1:04:26

Oh, they think the sea is first, not the land. Well

1:04:29

that would be rude. I guess that's that's something we should be really really

1:04:31

sensitive to Jerry, would be because you asked vision. That's right, Jerry,

1:04:38

thank you for the call and the observation. Seriously, what's up with

1:04:41

women's soccer? And then this Gordon Monson, who used to be like a

1:04:45

serious sports commentator, jumping on this lunacy. Let's go to Marcia in provo.

1:04:49

Marcia, thank you for joining the show. Thank you for being patient.

1:04:54

What say you about this? I got about a minute. I think

1:04:59

it's just treason about the America first? Yeah, so you're so, Gordon

1:05:04

Monson says you're ignorant. Then if you don't, if you think that the

1:05:08

word America and first put together isn't anti Semitic or encouraging Nazism, then you're

1:05:14

ignorant. Would do you agree? But Ben, he just simply doesn't know

1:05:17

the definition of treason. Sorry, that's that's right, Marsha. He's not

1:05:23

very educated. No, he's not. When he talks about ignorance. I

1:05:25

don't think I think you protest this too much, doesn't he? Marshall,

1:05:29

thank you for joining us on the program. Look, folks, I if

1:05:32

we didn't have an in, well should we take carry it? Oh?

1:05:34

You really? Oh that's right, that's right. I Actually I moved this

1:05:38

so that if you would like to call, we're coming up on a break.

1:05:41

Uh, but if you'd like to call and participate on the program,

1:05:45

I would love to hear from you, because honestly, articles like this,

1:05:47

if they don't get challenged, if we don't talk about this out just like

1:05:51

we are right now, this is the stuff that we'll get in people's heads.

1:05:55

We will start canceling everything in this world. This is not this is

1:05:58

not a legitimate issue. And I would challenge him to show me who has

1:06:00

been harmed and who has been suffering, because he says this hurts many many

1:06:04

people, this America First Credit Union. Give me names, Gordon, give

1:06:09

me all the people that have because I'll tell you what, I've never met

1:06:11

one, and I got a lot of friends, got a lot of friends,

1:06:14

and I haven't heard this from anyone. Eight eight eight five seven zero

1:06:17

eight zero one zero is the number to call. I would like to know.

1:06:21

Is it time to take America First Credit Union off of the front of

1:06:26

the Utah Royals jerseys and America First off of the stadium, the real stadium

1:06:33

in Sandy because of its racism, because it promotes Nazism, and that even

1:06:40

that eagle, folks, that's not a bald eagle. That's not American American

1:06:44

eagle you're looking at. It's got all these nefarious meanings behind it. Let's

1:06:47

get back to your calls. When we come back. You listen to Talk

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1:07:36

Right now, we're talking about the Salt Lake Tribunes Keith Oberman, or in

1:07:44

the Utah's case, Gordon Monson. Gordon Monson's either been drunk writing like drunk

1:07:50

texting and inebriated while he wrote this article. Or he found some of those

1:07:56

gummies that you're not supposed to take without a medical condition, of course,

1:08:02

but no, he says, you know, time for Utah Credit Union and

1:08:05

the Royals to dump America first name and logo. It's racist, folks,

1:08:12

It's all about the KKK. If you didn't know its history is tied.

1:08:14

I'm reading straight from his article the history It's history is tied to the klu

1:08:16

Klux Klan and other cruel and exclusionary movements. Take a trip to Germany,

1:08:23

to Poland Auschowitz to see what the slogan historically wanted to avoid getting tangled up

1:08:30

in a righteous up in righteously stopping. He also says this just because Donald

1:08:34

Trump used it in his bid for the White House doesn't mean it's dot dot

1:08:40

bad. No, only bad to the bone. You see, this really

1:08:45

isn't about someone went and tried to find the history of America first, because

1:08:48

it look in nineteen eighty four, I attended a Labor Day parade in Pittsburgh,

1:08:55

Pennsylvania, and you got to imagine in eighty four, it's a struggling

1:08:57

steel town. We're losing our steel industry to Japan at that time, and

1:09:03

they're they're just under selling the steel that's coming in. And you had a

1:09:06

lot of unions and you had me in nineteen eighty four, I'm thinking,

1:09:10

man, Ronald Reagan's gonna get crushed by Walter Mondo. Every person has a

1:09:15

Walter Monde for President signed Nobody here likes Ronald Reagan. I can't. I

1:09:18

think Ronald Reagan's cooked. I had no idea at that age that you know,

1:09:24

I was in the heart of the working class and the unions union members

1:09:28

of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But you would you saw in that parade in nineteen

1:09:33

eighty four, this was not a bunch of Nazis on Labor Day. This

1:09:36

was not a bunch of people looking for that were klu klux Klans. There

1:09:41

were no hoods or were not. This was we America first. This is

1:09:45

keep our jobs in the United States, keep our keep people working. America

1:09:51

first, folks, is not a con contrary to what Gordon Monson thinks.

1:09:56

When you say the words America first, you were talking of about prioritizing this

1:10:00

country its needs. It's why we argue that America's interests if they are threatened

1:10:05

even abroad, we would engage our military. This concept that you can't say

1:10:11

that we prioritize America first and that we make sure that America is protected or

1:10:15

whatever it may be. What I think happened is, you know, I

1:10:17

think this was just when they made this name. You know, you have

1:10:20

a lot of banks has been pointed out by listeners. See First Bank,

1:10:25

First Specific Bank, First Republic Bank, First International Bank, First Horizon Bank,

1:10:30

First Home Bank, First Farmers Bank, and Trust. And then you

1:10:33

saw the credit unions coming on board, and they wanted to They had those

1:10:36

words Utah First Credit Union, Deseret First Credit Union, First US Community Credit

1:10:43

Union, and then you have America First. This was never born, never

1:10:47

thought of as klu klux Klan, racist, nothing of the sort. This

1:10:54

is a contrived argument. This is meant to divide people. And again,

1:10:59

if you got friends that are minorities that have looked at this credit union all

1:11:02

these years and have just felt fear and have felt damaged, as you've reported

1:11:06

in your column, that people are harmed materially harmed by the name of this

1:11:11

credit union, let's let's I'll take that pepsi challenge. I got plenty of

1:11:15

friends. Let's go Let's have a talk about racism and about how people are

1:11:18

supposed to treat each other. And let's see where this credit union in its

1:11:20

name fits into that conversation. Because it won't. But let's go to Let's

1:11:26

go to the callers. Love to talk to Romney and American Fork. Romney,

1:11:31

thanks for calling. What's your take, sir, Hi, So,

1:11:38

uh, my take is the same as my brother. This is stupid.

1:11:43

This takes the cake for the dumbest take for the year. It's just it's

1:11:49

just it's so stupid. It doesn't even deserve a response. That's how stupid

1:11:55

this is. Yeah, Romney, Hey, thank you for calling. And

1:11:58

I'm glad you responded because I agree. I mean, why bring more attention to it? I mean, I sit and wonder. But I got to

1:12:03

tell you, folks, this is an adult. This is a veteran news

1:12:08

journalist and an opinion guy. And he is saying he's not just thinking this.

1:12:14

He doesn't just think these crazy thoughts. He's putting it to print and

1:12:16

he's wagging his finger at our state and saying, we're better than this.

1:12:21

Why would you ever have America first credit? Why would you ever do it?

1:12:26

On? One of the callers between the breaks said, you know,

1:12:29

is there a legal recourse when someone's trying to damage your brand? It has

1:12:32

nothing to do with the things that that this that Gordon Monson Keith Oberman of

1:12:38

Utah is accusing them of and it could harm their business and are they able

1:12:45

to are they able to? Uh? Just what do you call it libel

1:12:49

Can they say libelest things or slanderous things about a corporation like this that not

1:12:55

in a million years anything that they're doing right now is has anything to do

1:13:00

with the klu Klux Klan with Nazis. It's just it's such, it's such

1:13:04

an intellectual and ridiculous leap. And then he goes on he has the nerve

1:13:09

to say, well, you know this is this isn't over zealous cancer cancel

1:13:14

car culture. Uh, it's the poster child for overzealous cancel culture. If

1:13:17

you can find if you can find something wrong here, I don't think we'll

1:13:21

ever be able to utter a name of a founding father. I don't think

1:13:25

we could ever talk about American's history, America history if you can't say America

1:13:29

and first in the same sentence. And it's been said so for eighty five

1:13:31

years in the state, and now all of a sudden, it's it's reprehensible.

1:13:35

It's now you're just you're just supporting the racists and then the Nazis.

1:13:40

If you do it, and I'm telling you, if you if you think

1:13:43

that I'm speaking in hyperbole. As much as I don't want to give him

1:13:46

clickbait. You can read his article if if you can find it. I

1:13:49

don't subscribe to the Tribune, so I always have to get it sent.

1:13:53

But but no, he's he calls out the governor given Governor Spencer Cox even

1:13:59

thinks this is crazy, and he calls out governors Governor Cox for thinking he's

1:14:02

wrong. So he's I mean, he's on one on this. And again,

1:14:09

I just think that if I go through the list of if you're gonna

1:14:13

take what he's saying about America first uh being a negative, then take anything

1:14:18

that's first in a fin in an institution, a financial institution, and uses

1:14:23

the word first, first Republic. I don't know what the difference would be,

1:14:28

first International. Maybe they're globalists, those first international bank patrons. In

1:14:33

Pittsburgh when I grew up, there was first National Bank. I guess that

1:14:36

was I guess that was bad. What about first security? What? What?

1:14:41

What prejudice would first security be signaling to the people when they talk about

1:14:45

security first? I think that must be a bad one too. First Pacific

1:14:50

Bank, Wow over the Atlantic. Uh, you know that's that's there's got

1:14:57

to be some discrimination there. Gordon, what are we do doing about that?

1:15:00

Her first horizon and that we keep going. But I want to hear

1:15:03

from you. Let's go to the call. Let's go to callers, Steve

1:15:10

and Lehigh. Thank you for calling, sir, What say you? Well,

1:15:15

I just told your screener. You know, Gordon Monson has his head

1:15:18

up his armpit. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And he's calling

1:15:23

all of Utah racist. Yes, for absolutely no reason, no basist,

1:15:29

no none. That is he should be ashamed of himself. He really should

1:15:34

get this, Steve. If you're not racist, he'll give you one.

1:15:38

He'll give you one benefit of the doubt. If you're not racist, you're

1:15:41

just ignorant. You're you're ignorant, and you you don't. I mean,

1:15:45

so that's his that's his backup. You're either you're either a racist, You

1:15:48

either are sympathetic to Nazis and the klu Klux Klan, or you're just an

1:15:53

ignorant person. Thank you, Gordon Monson. I just think it's insane,

1:15:57

you know it is. And I've held public office. I've been a mayor,

1:16:00

I've been a counselman, I've been a judge, I've been a law

1:16:03

enforcement officer. That is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've heard anybody say in

1:16:10

this state in a long long time. I couldn't believe it when I saw

1:16:15

it. And then, you know what, when I was getting ready for the show, I thought, you know what, we're going to go to

1:16:17

listeners on this. I can't be the only one thinking that this is as

1:16:21

crazy it is. Thank you Steve for the call. I appreciate the input.

1:16:26

I couldn't be the only one I had to hear from you, because

1:16:29

I look at this and I just think, well, you don't want to

1:16:31

give them more attention, but you cannot let something an article like this go

1:16:35

unresponded because it is it is insane. In my opinion, I think it's

1:16:41

it's just off, just off the cliff. So let's go again, more

1:16:45

to the callers. Let's go to Diana in Salt Lake City, Diana,

1:16:49

Salt Lake City, Welcome to the show. What say you? You?

1:16:56

Well, you know I was the Twitchwear operator and had to look up a

1:17:00

lot of things in the Yellow Pages over the years, and I know that

1:17:04

when businesses are looking for a brand back in that era especially, they were

1:17:09

looking to be the first one in the listing in the Yellow Pages and America

1:17:13

starts with an A. I mean a A. It's probably as simple as

1:17:17

that, you know what, Diana, I thank you for the call.

1:17:19

I couldn't agree more because guess what I mean, it's an eighty five year

1:17:23

old name, okay, And the idea that they would want it to be

1:17:26

first in the in the in the yellow Pages, you better believe it.

1:17:29

I mean, it's it could be that simple. I mean, you have so many banks that start with first, and then you have credit unions and

1:17:34

they want to kind of show that they're a financial and a financial institution,

1:17:39

but they're a credit union. So having the word first inside of a name

1:17:42

of a credit union isn't the crazy and uh and so you're going to have

1:17:46

you're going to have names like this, and not are you you're going to

1:17:49

but you absolutely have names like this. I want to know a first US

1:17:54

community credit union first US I assume as the United States. I'm assuming that

1:17:58

because it's capital up less that's that must be racist and nazi esque as well.

1:18:05

Again, the problem with this, this editorial, and look isn't it

1:18:12

easy for this guy? The problem with it is it's contrived. It's a

1:18:15

contrived controversy and a time where we probably do have. We have serious issues

1:18:18

we have to talk about. There are issues that we're We're not lily white

1:18:23

in this country, no one ever is. No one has ever made that

1:18:25

claim that we are. But if you're ever going to get to the serious

1:18:27

issues, you've got to take you got to take the blather like this and

1:18:30

really call it out so you can get to those real issues. Let's go

1:18:33

to Ron and Montpellier, Idaho, one of our out of state listeners.

1:18:39

Ron, thank you for calling the show, sir. What's your take?

1:18:44

My take, well, I have been in America first customer member for decades,

1:18:51

love their service. They've been wonderful to me. But let me tell

1:18:55

you, is a cave I'm gone. Yeah. A lot depends to me

1:19:01

on how and I hope, I hope that they're listening, and I hope

1:19:05

people stand up and say stand your ground. Don't you dare cave on this?

1:19:12

You cave on this while else you cave on. I agree. Run.

1:19:15

You know what I'm tempted to do is I want to go I I

1:19:17

really wasn't following the Utah Royals, to be honest with you, this this

1:19:20

top soccer team. I want to go buy a jersey or a shirt just

1:19:24

to show that I just absolutely reject this premise and it's whole and its entirety.

1:19:30

Ron, thank you for calling. We're coming up on a break. Let's let's let's really drive them nuts. Yes, and everybody do that.

1:19:38

Let's all get let's all get our let's all get our our Utah Royals shirts

1:19:43

in our American First credit Union is sponsored shirts and let them know that we

1:19:46

like this credit Union. Thank you for your call. Run So okay,

1:19:50

we're going to come back. It's a break, and look I'm gonna I'm

1:19:55

gonna give you the number again. Uh wait, when's our call? When's

1:19:58

our interview? We got to go a break. When we come back,

1:20:00

it'll be more with you and uh and this topic here on Talk Radio one

1:20:04

five nine cannais from Speaker of the Utah House to man on Saturday mowing yard

1:20:17

Citizen Greg Hughes fills in for rod our Cat today. Welcome back to the

1:20:27

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1:20:30

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after every program if you've missed a portion, we'd like to just listen to

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it again. You can listen to it as a podcast. I'm your guest

1:20:45

host, Citizen Greg Hughes filling in for Rod. It will be back Monday.

1:20:48

Let's go back to the calls. We're talking about this article by Utah's

1:20:53

very own Keith Oberman. If you know who Keith Oberman was, he was

1:20:57

a sports guy that went politically crazy and has crazy tweets and everything else.

1:21:00

You used to work for MSNBC for a while. Gordon Monson has jumped the

1:21:03

shark, folks. He has lost it. He's crossed the rubicon in the

1:21:09

Lalla land. He is saying that the America First Credit Union, the Utah

1:21:13

rulds have to take that racist, racist, Nazi inspired name America First off

1:21:17

of their jerseys, off of the stadium. Also says that you know,

1:21:23

the company tried to defend itself with him because I guess he let him know

1:21:26

he was going to come after him. They said, look that the company

1:21:28

said that the North American bald eagle, or that the logo represents a North

1:21:31

American bald eagle, which is stylistically designed to look similar to the wings worn

1:21:35

by many of our brave servicemen and women in the armed forces. He says,

1:21:40

it's not meant to be stylistically designed, as he writes, to look

1:21:44

similar to the National Socialist eagle put so prominently on display during the reign of

1:21:49

the Third Reich in Nazi Germany, even though it kind of does. He

1:21:55

writes, all right, folks, I'd like to hear from you. Is

1:21:58

it me? Am? I just am I just being over sensitive here.

1:22:02

Let's go to Tom in Magna. Tom, thank you for joining us on

1:22:06

the program. Sir, what's say you about this America? First? Does

1:22:10

it need to go or stay? Oh? Absolutely not. I mean it's

1:22:15

you mean the supporting of the sports places here in Saltwake. No, they

1:22:21

should keep up with it. You know. It's a little bit to me

1:22:24

like Washington Redskins and Aunt Jemima. It's just it's just I've got to have

1:22:32

some more attention drawn to me. Is probably what it was about. But

1:22:35

here's the other thing too. Sometimes when I hear stories like this and this

1:22:42

is this is just some I guess, this is just a part of our

1:22:45

time in media and news and fake news and everything. I haven't heard the

1:22:51

name. I haven't heard the name Gordon Monson or America First Credit Union so

1:22:57

many times, and so it's a little bit like, you know, do

1:23:01

you like the guy that has an ostriche for a partner on the commercial?

1:23:05

What commercial is? I don't know, but I hate it? But do

1:23:08

you remember, yeah, it's it's the insurance company. Sure, then they

1:23:13

don't care. The advertising people's job is done. They've gotten your attention,

1:23:17

they've got their fifty more minutes of fame. But yeah, he could just

1:23:21

really be a crazy whack job. And you know, if you are really

1:23:25

good, if you were a really good journalist, you wouldn't You wouldn't know

1:23:30

what his personal On opinion radio, that's fine, but for a sports show,

1:23:35

nobody should know. I mean people said, people who watched Walter Cronkite

1:23:41

for decades that I never knew if he was if he was left leaning or

1:23:45

right leaning. And I don't think most people probably knew unless you were a

1:23:48

really savvy script writer for news, news stories even about people like who's the

1:23:58

who's the guy Dan? Rather until all of a sudden, you know,

1:24:01

he just kind of went off the farm. But you know, this is

1:24:04

just a case of somebody who's made a great career in this state. You're

1:24:09

welcome. You've you've enriched yourself off of a great uh a great career in

1:24:16

sports, and and and now you can just you can just go off the

1:24:20

farm with with whack job comments and articles. So that's my take, Tom,

1:24:25

thank you for the calling, and and and he's right, you know,

1:24:27

I mean, it's this brings more attention to it. Okay, I

1:24:30

do go fast because I'm gonna come up on a break. Let's go to Amelia in Salt Lake City. Amelia, thank you for joining us on the

1:24:35

program. What's your take, sir, Well, this is the first time

1:24:41

I'm calling, so it kind of tells you how passionate about these comments are.

1:24:45

They're being doing and everything. But one of the things you can tell,

1:24:49

I'm not I wasn't born in this country, and I love this country.

1:24:54

I became as citizen long time ago, and I just makes me mad

1:24:59

when people just takes these things out of proportion and crazy. I'm a real

1:25:05

Soul Lake season ticket holder. I am a customer for the Credit Union,

1:25:10

I'm a royal season ticket holder. I see these people give in. I

1:25:15

am done with them. And I love soccer. I grew up with soccer

1:25:18

all my life. But if they do something like that, they give in,

1:25:23

I'm done because it's just stupid. It's just like it doesn't make sense,

1:25:27

you know, it's just common sense that these people. It's just I

1:25:30

mean, you can tell how upset I am, and it's just like,

1:25:33

you know, it just doesn't make sense. Why you know, not even

1:25:38

love this guy, but now I'm going to find out who he is,

1:25:41

so I will not even listen to them. Well, hey, Emilio,

1:25:44

I want to thank you for your call. And as a season ticket holder and as a customer of America First Credit Union, and as as becoming a

1:25:50

citizen and coming to this country, I think, what a perfect voice,

1:25:54

what an important voice. So thank you for your call, thank you for

1:25:56

those impressions. Thank you for being a first time caller. Let's go to

1:26:00

Harry and Grantsville. Harry, Uh, what's your take, sir? Hey?

1:26:05

You know, I was just thinking, you know, the last life

1:26:09

to throw around defamation a lot. I think we need to push a little

1:26:12

bit back on them and you know, get some defamation going for them.

1:26:16

I agree, Harry. You know they're calling this racist. Oh go ahead,

1:26:21

No, I just want to I'm coming up on a break. I

1:26:24

want to thank you for your call. But Harry's point is, hey,

1:26:27

we're being insult we're being attacked. We're either if we're okay with America First,

1:26:30

I'll imagine that you're okay with America First, you're a racist, or

1:26:33

if you're not taking offense to this, you either have hate in your heart

1:26:38

or you are just as ignorant as a day is long. That is,

1:26:42

that is liable, that is slanderous. And what about this company, America

1:26:45

First, being put through all this kind of scrutiny, in this nonsense, in this pretend narrative that there's something wrong here. Again, if you come

1:26:51

from out of state and you're not used to the brand of America First Credit

1:26:55

Union, which I never even put it together with the issue of America First

1:26:58

policies from Trump. I never did. I never saw it the same.

1:27:00

But if you didn't, I can see someone not used to it seeing it

1:27:03

and asking. But for Gordon Monson, this guy that's here in Utah to

1:27:08

go this route, it's not acceptable. It's it's ridiculous, and I want

1:27:13

to thank everyone for their calls and perspectives. It's exactly what I thought the

1:27:16

smartest listening audience and all the land would conclude as well. So, okay,

1:27:20

we're gonna go to a break. When we come back, we're going

1:27:23

to talk to State Representative Ken Ivory. He's got a great bill that they

1:27:27

that they passed this year that I want you to know all about. It's

1:27:30

gonna make this state a lot financially stronger financially in a lot of ways.

1:27:33

So you want to hang on to listen to that interview. Coming back after

1:27:36

this break here on Talk Radio one oh five nine, Canteris rod Is taking

1:27:44

a break today. Guest toasting is one time candidate for governor Greg Hughes.

1:27:54

Welcome back to the program. Flying along on this Friday afternoon. As you're

1:27:59

good, ready for your weekend. So much to talk about. We can't

1:28:02

slow down when it's Saturday. Maybe we'll slow down. We're not slowing down

1:28:06

now, got to keep going. We have joining us on the program a

1:28:11

good friend of mine, State Senator Ken Ivory. I've served with Ken Ivory.

1:28:15

He's been a big thinker since he was a candidate, not even sworn

1:28:18

in as a House member yet. I remember speaking with Ken Ivory and knowing

1:28:23

that he was going to be a very impactful lawmaker when he was getting elected,

1:28:28

and I could tell it's going to happen real quick for him. Representative

1:28:30

Ken Ivory, thank you for joining us on the program. Hey, Greg's

1:28:34

great to join you man. So look, love, love, love the

1:28:39

bill that you ran. And I think that our listeners will be really intrigued

1:28:42

because I think it's a it's a smart path forward as we see this deficit

1:28:45

spending and we see inflation just eating away this dollar and really the discussion of

1:28:50

whether the dollar will remain the standard around the world. Why don't you tell

1:28:58

explain to our listeners what is House Built three forty eight, which by the

1:29:01

way, passed with more than two thirds majority in both the House and Senate.

1:29:04

So a lot of support for this bill, but it does a lot

1:29:08

of important things. Why don't you describe this bill for our listeners? Yeah,

1:29:13

Greg, I mean kind of as a preface, China has been working

1:29:15

for thirty years to cut up the United States credit card. I mean,

1:29:23

do you ever stop and ask yourself, how is it that we can just

1:29:26

print a trillion dollars a year, two trillion dollars a year, and just

1:29:30

spend money we don't have. Well, we basically export our inflation to the

1:29:35

nations of the world that have to have dollars to buy oil, and they're

1:29:41

sick of it. They're also sick of the United States saying when we don't

1:29:45

like what you do, we're going to use the dollar as a weapon and

1:29:48

sanction you. And so the nations of the world have been saying, hey,

1:29:51

are we going to be next, and so they've been planning to move

1:29:56

away from the dollar as the reserve currency. Well, that means, then,

1:30:00

Greg, is we've got to get back to producing enough in the United

1:30:05

States so that we've got enough dollars and we've got enough of their currency to

1:30:10

buy the things they make. Well, when we've got a federal government that's

1:30:15

just a favor factory and they just print dollars, which devalues every time they

1:30:20

print a dollar, it steals value from every dollar you've ever saved, every

1:30:26

dollar you'll ever earn. So what House ME three forty eight does is the

1:30:30

first thing it does is it allows our good treasure Marlo Oaks to invest up

1:30:33

to ten percent of our rainy day fund in precious metals, in gold and

1:30:39

silver that you've seen is just going through the roof and then we've got a

1:30:43

working group of study group to look at ways that we could put together fractional

1:30:47

transactional gold and silver mechanisms for every person to be able to preserve the purchasing

1:30:55

power of their earnings and savings in gold and silver in ethical, functional,

1:31:00

transactional ways. That is amazing, So I think I'm following it. So

1:31:05

the State of Utah will have rainy day funds, They'll have reserves, they

1:31:10

have money they set aside. There's an education rainy day fund, there's a

1:31:13

general fund, rainy day fund, There's there is money that the State of

1:31:16

Utah holds. This authorizes our state treasure to hold up to ten percent of

1:31:21

these in precious metals? Is am I tracking that? Right? Yeah?

1:31:25

Yeah, that's that's right. We have four rainy day funds that right now

1:31:28

total about one point four billion. So it authorizes our treasure, obviously,

1:31:32

in consultation with the UH the Asset Management Committee, to invest up to one

1:31:42

hundred and forty million dollars in gold and silver. And Greg, let me

1:31:45

ask you something. Do you know what Utah's number one export is? Hey,

1:31:49

in alfalfa, it's gold by seven times over? Yeah, do you

1:31:56

know what our number one import is. No, it's gold by more than

1:32:00

double the number two because we've got some of the top refineries in the nation.

1:32:05

So while we've got Rio Tinto and others producing gold, and it's our

1:32:10

number one export seven times over the number two. Because we've got some of

1:32:14

the top refineries in the nation, we're also it's also our number one import.

1:32:17

So everything that Nevada and other states produced they send here to refine.

1:32:21

And then also Utah is one of only four states in the nation that already

1:32:27

has a fully functional operational Brinks vaulting serve. You know Brinks, they're the

1:32:32

armored car guys that you know do all that in the movies. But they

1:32:35

have a vaulting system. So when you buy and sell gold, you don't

1:32:40

need to carry gold bars around in your wagon and pedal them. It's already

1:32:45

in a vaulting system and it's assayed and it's proofed. And so when someone

1:32:49

in Tokyo wants to buy a gold bar, they just hit a key on

1:32:53

a computer and it's it's transferred and allotated electronically. They just allocate the gold

1:33:00

maybe in Salt Lake to Tokyo, to Switzerland, to you know where London,

1:33:04

wherever else in the world, and then they just net out right.

1:33:08

They don't actually move the bars, you know, very frequently, and they

1:33:12

don't need to because there's so much gold transacting that you can liquid a So

1:33:16

like the Rainy Day Fund, if we had an emergency, you can liquidate

1:33:20

gold probably easier than stocks. You know, twenty four seven were actually twenty

1:33:25

four five by business days, but every business day of the year, you

1:33:29

can liquid eight gold, buy, sell, trade. It's one of the biggest markets. And Greg, since since two thousand, gold has beat the

1:33:36

Dow, It's beat d S and p and when we're going into inflation and

1:33:41

we're going into really turbulent periods, you know, gold has been the best

1:33:45

rainy day asset since Noah, so Utah's leading the way we're heading, leading

1:33:50

out and helping other states see that we've got to get back to sound money

1:33:55

and force the hand of the federal government to just quit printing money money out

1:34:00

of nowhere. And like I said, Greg, this is the most regressive,

1:34:04

deceitful tax of all. When they print money, it hurts the poorest

1:34:10

among us because it literally just steals value from anything they've saved and everything they'll

1:34:15

ever earn. Yeah, we had early on the program. We had Grover

1:34:18

Norquist, you probably know them like I do from Americans tax reform, talking

1:34:24

about how inflation has just made a four hundred thousand dollars job. It's the

1:34:29

equivalent before Biden got in the office of having a three hundred and thirty seven

1:34:32

thousand dollars job that value unless you've gotten a raise more. If you had

1:34:38

one hundred thousand dollars, you better got it in twenty twenty, you better

1:34:41

have gotten a twenty thousand dollars plus raise just to hold serf to just keep

1:34:45

where it is because we've lost so much value as they've printed money. So

1:34:48

we're speaking with Ken Ivy represents state representative. State Representative Can Ivory ran a

1:34:54

bill pass the bill HB three forty eight that allows for ten percent of Utah's

1:34:58

reserves that we set outside any days in reserves to be precious metals. So

1:35:05

there's an important little tidbit to this, and that is that central banks around

1:35:10

the world they've been seeing what you're seeing. So we're doing this as a

1:35:13

state. This isn't like crazy Town. I mean, Tennessee has a bill, I believe like this, and then central banks around the world they've been

1:35:18

buying gold to limit their dependence on the dollar, just as you're saying.

1:35:23

And I think there's a stat out here that says that the gold purchases total

1:35:27

to over one thousand and thirty seven tons, just forty five tons shy of

1:35:30

the twenty twenty two all time record dating back to the fifties. So there's

1:35:34

a movement going on here of what you're tracking. So let me you shared

1:35:39

with me during the legislative session, can the value of I think it was

1:35:43

a home and gold, and how both of them, how one appreciated because

1:35:47

homes have actually gone up inequity over that time. But maybe you could share

1:35:50

for listeners why precious metals are such an important especially a hedge against a dollar.

1:35:58

Why that works out for the taxpayer. Yeah, you bet, you

1:36:01

bet. So. Nineteen seventy one, President Nixon takes us off the gold

1:36:06

standard. He did that because we got caught with our hand in the cookie

1:36:10

jar. It used to be the dollar was pegged to gold. A dollar

1:36:14

was, you know, thirty five dollars would buy an ounce of gold. Well, we're printing money through the Great society, the Vietnam War. Get

1:36:20

this, Greg France sends a battleship, a destroyer to New York Harver loaded

1:36:28

with pallets full of dollars and said, give us the gold. We don't

1:36:31

want you. You're just printing these the value away from the dollars. Give

1:36:34

us the gold. And Nixon got kind of kind of scared, and he

1:36:39

said, okay, give them their gold and then shut the gold window.

1:36:42

And they said they were going to do it temporarily. So nineteen seventy one,

1:36:45

when Nixon shuts the gold window, right, you could buy the average

1:36:49

home for seventeen thousand dollars or seventeen thousand grams of gold, right, the

1:36:57

same thing. Today, The average in Salt Lake or in Utah five hundred

1:37:02

thousand dollars. You can't get anywhere close to a down payment for the seventeen

1:37:06

thousand dollars, right, but the seventeen thousand grams of gold right, same

1:37:13

same. In nineteen seventy one, seventeen thousand grams of gold would buy you

1:37:16

two five hundred thousand dollars homes with ninety thousand dollars left over. That's how

1:37:21

much they've stolen. They've killed away the value of our dollar. You know.

1:37:27

John Mayer Kaine said this is the most deceitful tax of all and he

1:37:32

was actually quoting Lenin and he said Lennon was right. This is the easiest

1:37:36

way to destroy the capitalist system by printing money and debasing the currency. And

1:37:44

they say they do it in a way that not one man in a million

1:37:47

even sees it coming, and they just destroy the economic system. So I'm

1:37:54

running up. Yeah, I'm running on a break. I got to jump

1:37:56

right now. But I want to end it there because you're you're our firewall.

1:38:00

You're starting an important bill and a process to hedge against this dollar,

1:38:03

and in a time where the favor factory of Congress is just spending us into

1:38:08

oblivion, I want to thank you for your good work and thank you for

1:38:10

joining us on the program. We're gonna keep tracking this and keep us updated.

1:38:14

You bet. Thanks, Thank you. Representative Okay that was represented Ken

1:38:17

Ivory. Great bill that passed. Smart things going on in a sea of

1:38:23

silliness. So I had to give you some good news on this Friday night.

1:38:26

We're gonna go to a break, and we have a short segment at

1:38:28

the top of the hour when we come back. You're listening to Talk Radio one oh five nine canterists. It's hard to get him excited about anything but

1:38:36

maybe filling in for Rod today, we'll do the trick guest toasting for d

1:38:41

Greg Hughes. Okay, we have a quick, quick, few minutes left.

1:38:45

We want to thank everyone for this Friday evening before your weekend, getting

1:38:50

some good information in having some great conversations. You know what I'm gonna do.

1:38:55

I'm gonna get an America First Credit Union Utah Monar shirt. I'm gonna

1:39:00

go. I'm gonna have Queen Bee. I'm gonna look for one. I'm not paying a fortune. Oh no, what I call him? I call

1:39:05

Utah. Row up the Monarchs, the Royals can't get them that. I

1:39:10

got a new team. I gotta start liking right, the Utah Royals,

1:39:13

America First Credit Union. And when Rod gets back, let him know that

1:39:16

you're gonna be getting your Utah. You become a Utah Royals fan too.

1:39:20

You want to get your shirt too. Let him know. Explain to him

1:39:24

when he gets here. He won't understand the rage, all the rage it

1:39:27

is, and how popular are these new this new uniformer jersey's gonna be he

1:39:31

Ray says, it get kind of pricey. I'm looking for the T shirt.

1:39:33

I don't want the official jersey, but anyway, I'm gonna get one,

1:39:38

and I think it's a It's a way to show that I'm just not

1:39:40

gonna buy into this blather. I just am not gonna do it. I

1:39:43

think this one is just jumped the shark real quickly. Yesterday, while President

1:39:46

Trump was in New York City attending a wake of a gun down New York

1:39:50

City police officer showing his respect, the city streets are shut down. Why

1:39:57

because Biden's got himself a fundraiser going on. He's got as in a Trump

1:40:00

or Clinton there, He's got President Obama there. They raise about twenty five

1:40:03

million dollars at Radio City Music Hall down there in New York City. So

1:40:09

you had the tail of two presidents. You got one paying his respects to

1:40:13

the fallen officer and supporting law enforcement. Well, the other one's bringing all

1:40:16

the elite celebrities out. And I think that's telling. By the way,

1:40:20

he doesn't do it without a protesters. A couple hundreds of anti Israel protesters

1:40:26

announced Biden as a war criminal. I mean, I'm looking at the pictures

1:40:29

of the signs. Those Democrats have a problem on their hands. They don't know how how to alienate the Hamas sympathizers and the Jewish community. They're doing,

1:40:39

they're alienating both at the same time. They don't know how to make

1:40:41

friends with both. They don't know what to do. They're not used to

1:40:44

having principal positions. So they're stuck, and I like watching them being stuck.

1:40:47

So anyway, we'll keep tracking that as well. Folks, thank you.

1:40:51

I hope you have a great weekend. I want to thank you for

1:40:54

joining me on the program and giving me this shot. While Rod is recuperating,

1:40:58

he will be back with you on Monday. I want to thank our

1:41:00

guests for joining us. Matt Sandran from the executive director of the Hatch Foundation,

1:41:04

Grover Norquist, as always in our state Representative Ken Ivory, for all

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that they're doing. Listen, I want you to keep your chin down,

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your hands up, your eyes forward, keep answering the bell until we meet

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again. Good Night.