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past me accompany. Let me tell you what you know. We have got

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a party going on now. They think they've got a party in downtown called

1:06

like yes for hockey team, which is cool? Right? The party is

1:10

on this radio. That's right, it's on this show today. You might like hockey, but you love America. Did you love that comment that heavy

1:18

just at internews, gat brilliant? What do you say? The kids said,

1:22

I like hockey better than school. Hockey's better than school. He is.

1:26

He is getting the mid school to go down there and celebrate the NHL

1:30

new hockey team. Yep, And I'm with you. I get it.

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Yeah, that's the best coming of the day so far. All right,

1:36

how are you everybody? Welcome to a Wingman Wednesday with Rod our Kid Citizen

1:40

Greg Hughes, and we have got a lot to talk about today, Greg,

1:44

I mean, the world's going nutty. It is, it is,

1:48

it is, it's going crazy. We got so we got a stack of

1:51

stuff in front of us here and I know we never get through it all, but it's it's important that we decipher what's going on. It's just getting

1:59

crazy and you need someone that's going to walk you through it. Man,

2:01

that's what we do. You know, the bosses are now starting to complain

2:05

because when you and I are in there, we make this, We make

2:07

a mess in the studio. Well, you know we're working. We're working.

2:12

Well that's a workplace. Yeah, welcome to the Welcome to the factory.

2:15

The truth. Well we're gonna here's let me give you. Let me

2:20

just give you the rundown, the menu, so to speak of what we're

2:23

going to be talking about today. We're all talking about Mike Johnson. What

2:25

has happened to Mike Johnson, speaker of the US Boom is off the roads.

2:30

I don't understand. I'm disappointed. Now there's been a lot of talk

2:34

Greg during the Trump hush money trial of the prosecutor in this case. Yeah,

2:38

the interesting story. We'll get into that a little bit later on.

2:42

Of course, we're going to talk about COVID suspending criminal prosecutions of illegal aliens

2:47

and they've never picked up since then. Nope, Nope, they aren't going

2:51

to do that move. Plus Greg has to take today. He claims the

2:55

Democratic Party is dead. Oh yeah, I've got I've got the ready to

3:00

go. I've prepared today. You're gonna lay this one all out for us. It's irrefutable, folks, it is. It is an obituary. It

3:07

is gone. It is. I don't even want it to rest in peace.

3:10

I don't want to be rested. I want it to rest in misery.

3:13

Yeah, well it is gone. Yeah. Your argument is it's done. It is, It's finished, it's over. Yeah, we'll talk about

3:17

that. So a lot to get to, but we've got to start off

3:21

with his story today. This, this to me is maybe so far Greg,

3:25

the best story of the year. It is a great story. I

3:28

mean it is. It is breaking news. Now. If you haven't heard this story, what basically it is is a guy in Florida from one I

3:35

understanding you'll correct me if I have these facts wrong? Right? He was

3:38

out walking his dog or dogs, yeah, two labradors, labradors. He's

3:43

sixty seven. His name's Rick, very nice man. So Rick's out walking

3:46

walking the labs, right yep. All of a sudden he's attacked by eleven

3:50

foot alligator. Yes, can you believe this? Okay, bite grabs his

3:57

leg. He starts to hit it on the head. Yeah, and he

4:00

and he's pulling the guy into a nearby pond. Lunch man, he's pulling

4:04

him into the pond. Allator right. Well, his next door neighbor who

4:09

opens happens to be a very good buddy of his his name Walter, driving

4:13

along the truck. Yeah. Yeah, Walter sees what's going on, says,

4:16

hmm, what can I do to save the game? That looks like

4:19

Rick, Honey, that's our neighbor Rick. There's an alligator on his leg

4:24

and he's pulling him into the pond. Pull into the pond. So what

4:27

does Walter do? He takes his pickup truck and drives over the alligator.

4:32

Yeah. And what I love about this is the quick thinking Rick is the

4:35

one that came up with the idea. Right, Walter's like, hey,

4:39

you gonna be all right over there. He's like, I am not I

4:42

am getting pulled into the pond. Run over this thing, run over this,

4:45

and so he does. He takes his truck, runs right over the alligator and guess what, the alligator let's go and books it. It's out.

4:51

Yeah, good quick thinking. You got an alligator sunk into your leg.

4:57

And you see your butter Walt, Buddy Walter and his truck driving by,

5:00

and you wave them and you're like, can you help help the dogs? By the way, those great labradors never left the man's site. Thought

5:05

a lot they could do to the alligator. But they were barking and they

5:09

were staying with them. They were upset, and he says, can you

5:11

run over this thing to get it off my leg? And sure enough so

5:14

the dogs weren't scarrying off the alligator and they were going crazy. The dogs

5:16

are going crazy the alligators. Now this is what the Florida the Fishing Game

5:21

people come in because this is an incident. You know. They helicoptered the

5:25

guy to a hospital. It's actually pretty serious what happened to his leg.

5:29

But they when they found the alligator, they had to tell residents they're like,

5:32

look, I don't know if you know it, but the Florida Fish

5:35

and Wildlife Conservation Commission said, folks, it's mating season for these alligators.

5:41

They're feeling a little frisky. May till June. These attacks folks because it's

5:46

mating season. Apparently that means finding poor you know, Rick over there was

5:50

part of it. But they're they're a lot more randy, They're a lot

5:54

more interested and what's going on around them. So stay away from bodies of

5:58

water through jew because it's mating. Well, I tell you what that's new.

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That to me is a great story. Yeah, hey, Walter,

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would you bring your truck over here and drive over this alligator so he'll let

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go of my life? Keeping his head about him, I would just be

6:15

screaming. I'd just be just be all kinds of words and commentary bout what's

6:19

happening to me. Wouldn't it hurt? Yeah, it's got to kill.

6:23

I remember years ago, Greg, and you may have seen that. I

6:26

remember my wife and I and I met my brother and his wife down at

6:29

Hilton Head to play some golf. On almost every course there were alligators on

6:33

the course. Yeah, I see, As a matter of fact, we

6:36

went to one tea box, right, and it's pretty good sized. Alligator

6:40

was like at the back of the tea box, right, and we're going,

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oh, let's hit the ball quick and get out of here. Right.

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I love to sign please don't bother the alligators the alligator that's what the

6:50

sign was. Well, does the alligator have any sign please don't bother the

6:54

golfers, because that's what I think got to be the emphasis. I don't

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think they can read. Well, they don't have a proper education. Just

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I hope you weren't there in April May or maybe because apparently they have a

7:06

little more interest in you. Maybe they think you're a female alligator. I

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don't know what's going on with these alligators. But and by the way,

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folks, they're not crocodiles. Crocodiles are actually bigger than an alligator by a

7:15

lot. Really, Yes see, I've always wondered the difference between in their

7:19

head shaped differently too. Yeah, these these crocodiles are in Australia, and

7:23

those things are longer. They're up to twenty feet and longer. And what

7:26

they do is they hide near bodies of water and when animal deers or anything

7:30

tries us to take a drink. They throw their body sideways and come they

7:35

come to the water sideway so that the animal has to run past the length

7:40

of the crocodile, and they just push them right into the water and death

7:43

roll them. You know. So I didn't know you were such an expert

7:46

on gators and spent some time down under the That is a great story today.

7:54

I mean good for good for Rick, and great for Walter this gator

8:00

because it has a happy ending. We need some more stories with happy endings. Walter acted quick, saved his neighbor and friend Rick. Rick's a little

8:07

bit sore, but you know, the dogs hung with him and he was

8:09

quick thinking. Walter run over this thing and he did insane And I think

8:13

they've now captured the alligator. I think that's how they know. It's eleven.

8:18

They went into the pond and got the alligator and hold it something.

8:20

You're sir, it might be mating season, but this was no excuse.

8:24

You cannot do this to this man. You're going to have to go now,

8:26

and so they took him. I don't know what they did with him.

8:28

I don't know. We don't know what happened to you. Know,

8:31

the alligator bit. Probably a new pair of Cowboy boosts. Yeah, that's

8:33

what I'm thinking. Maybe some accessories might come from that. And we do

8:37

want to mention we know there's a big party. It's a big day for

8:41

Salt Lake City. I mean, we got the we got the hockey team.

8:43

Yeah, you know, they're having a big party. They've got you

8:46

know, it's free admission started about four o'clock. They've got all kinds of

8:50

things going on. I just think it's cool for the city and I you and I debated the tax implications and what this all means. This is a

8:56

much better deal than the one for the baseball Yeah, they are are pulling

9:00

the tax in current from the area in which it's being developed, which makes

9:03

a lot more sense than state wide taxes. I love that. So I'm

9:07

from Pittsburgh, So I'm a Penguins fan and a hockey fan. The structure

9:11

of the sport meaning that you have salary caps, that there is a level

9:13

of parody between the teams, Teams that weren't good can be good in a

9:18

short amount of time. It makes the sport very, very exciting. And

9:22

that's and that is different than baseball. I'm a Pirates fan in baseball,

9:24

and there is not those salary caps in some of that parody. And so

9:28

it's a it's a have and have not type of league, and I'm on

9:31

the have not side if you're wondering on my team, although my team has

9:35

won a couple of games. But anyway, it's hockey's fun. If you

9:39

haven't watched it, if you haven't watched that level of hockey, professional hockey,

9:43

it's the It's still a physical game, a lot of checks, a

9:45

lot of you know, there's a lot of a lot of physicality of the

9:48

sport. And uh, what I like about hockey's there's a blue line. So my kid played soccer. I wouldn't know an offside with you, but

9:54

a blue line. You know when you when the puck goes over the two

9:58

lines. If you're new to hockey, wondering about this game, right now,

10:01

the playoffs are underway. If you want to see how intense, fast,

10:05

physical, just take ten minutes to watch a hockey game on TV right

10:09

now. You'll see what it goes. I mean, those guys kick into

10:11

another gear and the parody. Once you're in the playoffs, anything goes because

10:15

it's a long season, but the teams that come in top seed rarely are

10:20

the ones that get to become the Stanley Cup champions. That's true, that's

10:24

right. All right, when we come back, we'll talk about that horrible and we do mean horrible aid package passed by the Senate yesterday and signed into

10:31

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now for a news update, Honkey Fans gathering outside the Delta Center in downtown

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ready to welcome you Tah's new NHL team and how speaker Mike Johnson demanding the

12:31

president of Columbia University resign unless she reigns in anti Semitic protests. Those details

12:39

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welcome back. It is a Wingman Wednesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one

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zero five nine canter Rest Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app brought our Kat along

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with citizen Greg Hughes. We forgot to mention this the beginning of the show.

13:43

We got a big weekend coming up. We sure did. We are

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going to be live at the Utah State Republican Party Convention on Saturday and I'm

13:50

going to tell you that's not a small thing. This show live on the

13:54

convention floor, and I think this year, folks, if the times are

13:58

tough, this convention and the delegates that are going to that convention, I

14:01

think the fur is going to fly. I think this is one for the

14:05

books. Yeah, yeah, I really is. And we'll be on We'll be over there at the Salt Palace, broadcasting live starting at three o'clock on

14:11

Saturday, and we'll talk to the winners the losers, will analyze all the

14:15

numbers and the surprises. And there are a few out there for more there

14:18

are I think there are things bruined you right now. These are the final

14:22

days where delegates are being pitched by every candidate. Every We have such high

14:26

profile races for governor, attorney general, US Senate, congressional races all the

14:31

way down. Everybody's vuying for the attention of these delegates. And I'm telling

14:35

you we're gonna there's no statistically impossible to not have some crazy surprises coming out

14:41

of that. Well, speaking of surprises, I think one of the surprises

14:43

for a morning many conservatives right now is what happened to I'll speaker Mike Johnson,

14:48

Can I confess something to you? Sure? When he was elected?

14:52

Yes, I was so excited. I just I donated money. I feel

14:54

a little buyer's remorse. I separated with harder cash because I was so excited.

15:01

I'm feeling at the moment. You sure did well. Joining us on

15:03

our news Michael Line to talk more about this is our good friend John Daniel

15:07

Davidson. He's senior editor of The Federalist. John, how are you?

15:11

Welcome back to The Wingman Wednesday with Rodbert Gedding Greg Hughes. Welcome, John,

15:16

Hey, thanks for having me. Okay, John, what happened to

15:18

Mike Johnson? Yeah? What happened to or a guy? What's going on?

15:22

Well, if you listen to the mainstream media of the New York Times,

15:26

Washington Post, Politico, the Atlantic which has a tough profile of Speaker

15:31

Johnson out right now, if you listen to them, then what happened is

15:35

that he went into a classified intelligence briefing and he got super secret intelligence that

15:41

was so shocking that it totally changed his mind about the dire situation that Ukraine

15:46

and the threat that Moscow poses to the Western world, and he just had

15:50

to repudiate everything he'd said for months and months about Ukraine funding and basically past

15:56

the Democrats agenda. That's the line, that's the narrative, But it doesn't

16:02

really hold up to scrutiny, and it doesn't make sense. So I've heard

16:06

that. I've heard that line, and you know, I'm never looking If

16:08

the New York Times and regime media are praising me, I think I'm doing

16:11

something wrong. But I will say this, how could it be that you

16:15

warrantless surveillance of Americans should be extended. We should be funding these wars and

16:22

because of the Ukraine or anywhere else, because the national security issues are so

16:29

dire, But it would not include the physical arrival of people from around this

16:33

world, enemies to the state, that are coming into our country from the

16:37

southern border. That doesn't reach the same priority. How is that being left

16:41

out? I mean, I don't know that you can assume these the premise

16:44

of how scary it is out there, when you have four million people a

16:47

year walking across that border. How does that get left out of the conversation

16:51

If it's that scary, if you heard such scary information, yeah, well

16:56

exactly. That's just one of the problems with the narrative, right. I

17:00

don't think he did hear any scary information. I don't think he was telling

17:03

the truth from the get go when he said that he was only going to

17:07

support Ukraine funding if there was funding for the border. I'm not sure Mike

17:11

Johnson ever cared about the border. I think what he cares about most of

17:14

all is being House Speaker, and he's willing to say and do anything that

17:18

he has to to keep that position. And in order to keep that position,

17:22

he came to the conclusion that he was going to have to do Democrats

17:25

bidding and pass their agenda and not get anything for it. Not only did

17:30

he not do anything for the border, that funding package, that foreign aid

17:33

funding package included four billion dollars for the Open Borders NGOs that work along the

17:38

border and facilitate the movement of illegal immigrants into the country who have been released

17:44

in federal custody. So he actually made the border worse. John Let's just

17:49

assume he did find something out in this meeting that scared the daylights out of

17:53

him. How should he have handled that to explain why he was changing his

17:57

position? I mean, what should he have done? In your opinion,

18:02

Well, right, I mean the obvious thing to have done. If he actually found out let's say that Vladimir Putin was planning to nuke Ukraine and march

18:10

on Poland, Well, then I would think, and I think most reasonable

18:14

people would think that Speaker Mike Johnson has a duty to come out and tell

18:18

the American people that that's what he found out, and that's why he's changing

18:22

his opinion of the war in Ukraine and totally recalibrating his own policy priorities and

18:29

make it pee his part to Republican voters and the American people at large that

18:33

this is a much greater threat to America and to world peace than any of

18:37

us realized. This is not just a sort of regional conflict and a grinding

18:42

war of attrition over some parts of eastern Ukraine that it's unclear how it rates

18:47

the American interest. No, this is this is something completely different. But

18:51

he didn't do that, and he didn't do that because he didn't. I'm

18:56

willing to bet he did not find out anything like that at all. So

19:00

here's here's my question. I the math isn't working out for me. If

19:03

he would like to be Speaker again, the Democrats would not vote for him

19:07

to be speaker. It would take the Republicans in the House. I believe

19:11

a majority of the Republicans in the House did not vote for this Foreign eight

19:14

package. So how does he What is the strategy behind staying speaker if more

19:18

than half of your Republicans in the House are not voting for the package you've

19:22

agreed to. Well, I don't have any special knowledge of the behind the

19:27

scenes conversations, but I can imagine that Speaker Johnson, you know, made

19:32

a pitch to Democrats that he would be their man, and he would keep

19:37

enough Republicans in line and keep enough Republicans voting for the Biden White House agenda,

19:44

that that that he that and that they would need him to do that.

19:48

Right, But it's clear that he is defying the majority of his own

19:53

party. And as you say, that's exactly right. Most Republicans in the

19:56

House voted against this Foreign eight a package, which means there's only one conclusion,

20:02

and that is that speaking Mike Johnson as the Democrats man, and he

20:06

sold himself to the Democrats as such, and that is now the basis of

20:10

his speakership. Pretty amazing. John is always great chatting with you. Thanks

20:14

for a few minutes of your time, Thank you for your reporting. Hey,

20:18

thanks for having me. All right, John Daniel Davis, this is a senior editor of course with the Federalist talking about this sellout by Johnson.

20:25

I just I don't understand this. And and Mike Lee, by the way,

20:30

last night was hot, actually out there's some videos Mike was hot.

20:36

Yeah, he's in the Senate. They're passing this garbage bill that you don't

20:40

have to have a majority or the minority in either the US House or the

20:45

Senate. You just have to be the Democrats because you're getting your way in

20:47

the House and you're getting your way in the Senate, and it doesn't matter where the majorities lie. And he was really fired up appropriately, Yeah,

20:53

fired up about it as he should be. All right, mare coming up.

20:56

It is Wingman Wednesday right here on Utah's Talk Rady k n R s

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It is wing Van Wednesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

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Kate n RS brought our cat along with citizen Greg Hughes, getting already

21:25

for our live broadcast Saturday from the Utah State GOP Convention. My sources say

21:30

that there's gonna be some surprise. It's gonna be a it's gonna be one

21:33

heck of a convention. Well, they're gonna be surprises. We'll be there

21:37

Saturday afternoon from three to five, So we invite you to tune in.

21:41

Not a lot of news today out of the Hush Monday trial because it's kind

21:44

of a day off. I don't know why they take Wednesday off, but

21:47

they do in New York for Donald Trump, but he still can't say anything.

21:52

They're just trying to milk it. They want to kee him as quiet as possible for as long as possible. They're doing whatever they can work.

21:56

That's a very important trial. It's it has such weight and gravity to it.

22:02

Yeah, not not all right. Well, a lot much has been

22:04

made, of course, of the prosecutor in this case. His name is

22:08

Matthew Colangelo, and apparently a lot of people say, could there be a

22:12

direct connection to the White House with this guy. Joining us on our Newsmaker

22:17

line to talk about it right now is Caitlin Richardson. Caitlyn is a courts

22:21

reporter at the Daily Caller. Caitlin, how are you welcome to Wingman Wednesday

22:23

with Rod and Greg I'm great, thanks for having me on. All right.

22:27

Who is Matthew Colangelo. Matthew Colangelo joined the Manhattan District Attorney's Office in

22:36

December of twenty twenty two. Previously he was the number three guy in the

22:41

Biden do OJ. He was the acting Associate Attorney General and he had been

22:45

since January of twenty twenty two. And even before he was in the Biden

22:51

do OJ, he worked for the New York Attorney General's Office with Ladisha James,

22:57

and in that role he worked on the investigation into the Trump Foundation.

23:03

He worked on a number of lawsuits against the Trump administration. One of those

23:07

was challenging the Trump admins inclusion of a citizenship question on the census. He

23:12

also worked on what now has become the civil fraud case against Trump, which

23:18

he just recently had to put up a one hundred and seventy million dollars bond

23:21

for. So Michael Colangelo has worked in the Biden DOJ and had an extensive

23:27

involvement in the number of cases against Trump. So when you know there's a

23:33

lot of talk of whether administrations are trying to taint an investigation or involve themselves,

23:41

I mean that was the premise of the first impeachment of Trump that he

23:44

was calling Zelensky from Ukraine asked him to get his clean up his house because

23:48

of corruption there. What let me ask you, when the what advantages would

23:55

the doga number three in the Department of Justice from the Biden administration? What

24:00

kind of advantage does that bring? Bringing him with all the bias or all

24:03

the least a work that he's done up until this point into the in with

24:07

the Manhattan District Attorney's office, How does that advantage the DA Braggs or what?

24:15

Yeah, Alvin Braggs and his office, what's the advantage they get from

24:18

a DOJ guy? I mean again, he's been working on a number of

24:27

these cases against the former president, both in the New York Attorney Donald's office

24:34

and you know, as an official in the DJ. The DJ is also

24:38

prosecuting President Trump, and there's two current cases that Special Counsel Jacksmith is prosecuting.

24:45

So he has a lot of experience in this area, and I think

24:52

that's more than that. What some people are concerned about is why he would

24:57

step down from such a scene, your position in the DJ to take a

25:03

role at a city district Attorney's office. You know, Kaitlin, A lot

25:07

of people are raising that question. You know, he's senior, he has

25:11

a very senior level job at Department of Justice. Yet he leads that to

25:15

go to work for you know, the DA in in South Manhattan, and

25:19

a lot of people are saying, well, that's very unusual. That's where

25:22

they're kind of seeing this connection with Biden. But I'm also told that happens

25:26

quite often. What are you hearing, I mean, does this happen often

25:30

or is this a rare case that he would go from DJ back to the

25:33

DA's office in Manhattan. I think there are a number of people at least

25:40

raising concerns that it looks it looks like a career move that would not necessarily

25:48

be advantages. But there is a Texas Rep. Lance Gooden, who has

25:53

asked the DJ and Alvin Brad the Manhattan Attorney, the Manhattan District Attorney,

26:00

to turnover records and communications related to his hiring to answer some of the questions

26:06

about why he was hired and what exactly he's doing on the case. All

26:12

right, Caitlin, appreciate a few minutes to your time. Thank you for

26:15

your reporting. Thank you all right on our newsmaker line. That's Kitlin Richardson.

26:21

She is the Congressional courts reporter I guess for the Daily Caller. But

26:25

that connection, Greg, come on, well, you know what I asked

26:27

the question. I did because I see no great advantage from the number three

26:32

DOJ guy going to the Manhattan District Attorney's office for any reason other than election

26:37

interference. It is only to bring greater weight and to try to bring the

26:41

heft of the DOJ and what he has learned up till that point to bog

26:45

down that case or give it some air of legitimacy. But all that is

26:49

about is this election right now. It has nothing to do with the actual

26:53

merits of the case. They don't go from DOJ down to city prosecutors like

26:57

this. They only do it if you're Biden and you won. Election interference.

27:02

Well, that's what it is. It's election interference. And there's another story out there today, Greg. This is John Solomon over at Just the

27:07

News, the National The Biden administration put so much pressure on the National Archives

27:12

Archives about Trump and the documents and mar Alago. Here we go again,

27:17

Greg, Biden administration putting pressure on a couple of federal agencies to get after

27:22

Donald Trump and his document case. At the same time, well, Joe

27:25

Biden's got a bunch of boxes in his garage. Yeah, and as a

27:29

prosecutor has determined that, you know, he's not competent to stand trial, but he is still he's coming enough to be a candidate for reelection, but

27:33

not to run for trial or run for reelection. Ay. Even a law

27:38

professor in one of these schools that you wouldn't have guessed it would come from

27:44

Boston University, the law professor says that this case is a sham. He

27:48

says that the precedent this is creating is horrific, it's not real, and

27:52

this is coming from their side, so to speak. I mean, this

27:55

is not a maga law professor, and he's just cringing at how ridiculous this

28:00

is amazing. All right, more coming up. It is wing Man Wednesday

28:03

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We call it Wingman Wednesday, three hours every Wednesday where we solve problems here

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in Utah, problems around the country, worldwide problems. We have time.

28:29

Well, no one else gonna do it. It's not us so we have

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to do. It's on us some interesting news that that my, my,

28:37

my wingman is so excited about today because something good happened in the NFL.

28:42

Finally some good news. Finally, some good news. Reggie share it with

28:45

us. Reggie Bush a two thousand and five Heisman Trophy winner best running back

28:49

in America, playing out of the University of Spoiled Children USC Southern California,

28:56

and it was, without a doubt, a great, incredible college football player.

28:59

Just that Heisman. I mean, anyway, he gets a strip because

29:03

they find out that through an investigation that his parents are getting flown to his

29:06

games to watch him, and he gets to drive a hummer around when he's playing. And at the time, I guess it sounds bad. It has

29:12

to turn in and lose his Heisman in twenty ten, and then you get

29:17

all these kids with these nil deals and they're making millions while they're playing,

29:21

Uh, parents watching football games and driving someone else's hummers the least of anyone's

29:25

worry. He had Manzielle on a documentary admitting all the violations and pay he

29:30

was receiving. How is this man not given his Heisman back? Will?

29:33

Finally today folks. He and his Heisman have been reunited. He is back

29:37

to the Heisman family. He deserves it. What he did on the field,

29:41

he should have never had to leave the landscape of a Heisman Trophy winner,

29:44

in my opinion, So they give it. They woke up and give it back to him to finally did. I don't know what was so special

29:48

about today, but we have some good news that justice does prevail. It's

29:52

always rubbed me wrong that this guy was still pushed out there and ostracized in

29:56

an unfair way. Yeah. Do you realize Tomorrow's the NFL Draft? It

30:00

tomorrow Tomorrow, April twenty fifth, the NFL Draft tomorrow. Wow. Where's

30:03

it at. What city doing? I think it's Detroit? Wow, which

30:07

is good because Detroit kind of a resurgence of the Lions kind of kind of.

30:10

Ye, it's exciting. I think it all happened all coincided with the with the HBO show they do whatever, that's what's called Hard Knocks. Yeah,

30:18

yeah, that was great, actually really yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed

30:21

watching Steelers excited about the draft. Yeah. Look, we got a great

30:25

new general manager. He's made some trades. We got we got Russell Wilson

30:27

as a quarterback. We excited about that. I am, well, I

30:30

think he's better than the guy we had. So and then we got Oh,

30:33

we forgot, We forgot you. We do this, real fans,

30:36

you better. We could talk about the Steelers all day. We got I'd

30:40

like to make that kind of show. We've got four tickets to meet.

30:45

Eater Live with Steve Roanella's coming up this Monday at the Union Events Center at

30:48

eight pm. We have four tickets right now. He already says, this

30:52

a popular show on Netflix. Yeah, because they kill and cook all kind

30:56

of a wild game. Nice. Yeah, nice. We've got four tickets

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right now. Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero eight eight

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eight five seven eight zero one zero. If you're calling number five, you'll

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get four tickets this Monday night. Five staying with five. I thought,

31:11

he said, fine, is fine? All right, Yeah, it won't

31:15

work that hard, all right. I'm telling you he's given us a salute

31:21

again. Number one, just number one. We're always number one, always

31:26

number one. All right. Now, when we come back five o'clock, Howard, do not test the medal of the chair. You never know when

31:33

that's gonna come. You never know you want to talk about the death of

31:37

the Democratic Party theory. It's gone. You have a theory, it's long

31:41

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nine cans run Our get along with citizen Greg Hughes. Big, big week

32:40

coming up, Big weekend, coming up, Big weekend. It's convention week.

32:46

You love this stuff? Oh, I sure do. And I you

32:49

know what I like the new season of my life. I used to be

32:52

in this game. I used to be in the fight in the arena. Now it's color commentary. I'm just gonna I'm gonna give you the inside scoop.

32:58

What's going on in these campaigns is and it's minds. The delegates.

33:00

They're asking tough questions, you're engaging. I love it. I love it.

33:06

It's fun to do, I do, I do. I'm telling you

33:08

it's it's it's a unique insight. It's when you're a little bit emotionally removed

33:13

from it and you can got to watch it go. But we're in tough time, so I'm kind of still emotionally involved. But it's different. It's

33:19

different, and I enjoy it. Now. Both of us are predicting some

33:22

surprises. This we get. You can't have this many, these many big

33:27

races and not have some wrenches thrown into the into the into the cranks.

33:34

I mean, because because we are so well connected, we're aware a few

33:37

of those prices. I'm just going to tell you there's there's some cancer are

33:39

working so hard. We have been sworn to secrecy. Yes, I'm just

33:44

going to tell you that. Ready. Yep. You can't have races for

33:49

governor and attorney general and US Senate and these congressional races, the contested ones

33:53

in the second district and third district. You can't have this happening. Is

33:58

it? So? Is that? Is that all just those two burgess Owens doesn't have a don't own candidate. I don't think Blake Moore does, blakemore

34:04

does does. Okay, But he'll be fine. But look, I'm going

34:07

to tell you then you have some legislative races going on, there is going

34:10

to be some surprises. It has to. I mean, there's there's no

34:15

way. And what I'm hearing from people that I know that's work, that they're working hard, there's you know, there's some good things happening. You

34:22

know what you don't what bothers me? Greg, and I think you were aware of this. Earlier this week there was a report down I think it

34:29

was NBC that the enthusiasm for the election this year is down. I don't

34:34

buy it. I don't buy it either, because you know, I've talked

34:37

to some delegates over the past ever they are engaged and they are ready to

34:42

go. I mean they I get a sense they feel an urgency this year

34:45

that they haven't felt in the past, because if we don't stop this crazy

34:50

train, yes, this country is going to be in trouble. So you

34:52

can say what you want about the candidates. We don't like to late seventies

34:55

eighty year old candidates for president. You can talk about anything you want.

34:59

The times we're living through right now is not generating apathy and who cares?

35:04

Who cares? What happens next. I'm sorry. What we're living through right

35:06

now, and what we're seeing is creating a genuine, sincere concern about how

35:13

things are supposed to go forward, and nobody is just blowing it off,

35:15

saying, eh, who cares. There's no apathy. I anyone's saying that

35:20

that there might be a frustration of candidates to choose from. There is no

35:23

lack of interest or urgency to be involved. Because times are they're crazy.

35:30

Every every every week we seem to cross the rubicon into another you know,

35:36

kooky lalla land of ideas. Yeah. Well, and the thing is,

35:38

greg where are the Democrats right now? I mean, we're starting to see

35:43

what's going on on our college campuses. Did you ever see the day when

35:46

on our college campuses there would be pro Palestinian demonstrations in support of hamas an

35:53

organization that is dedicated to one thing, wiping every jew off the face of

35:59

the So. So, I took my son to the New York City this

36:02

last weekend to go to the fights. There's big prize fight, super lightweight

36:07

championship fight in the New York City. And I sat on a plane and

36:10

it was a long flight, and I and I don't usually sit this long,

36:15

but I'm watching this. I'm watching the news, and I'm watching it for the whole flight. So I'm on there for four hours and I'm watching

36:20

this, and it dawns on me. Rod, as I'm seeing these protests, as I'm seeing the students, basically from Colombia and any other university,

36:29

the message is, if you're Jewish, run for the hills, because we're

36:31

not going to protect you. You have it. So in Colombia, I'm

36:36

watching this and I can't believe what I'm watching because I'm really I don't have

36:39

anything else to do. I'm on the plane and I watch this, and

36:43

I think to myself, the Democrat Party, Rod, as we know it,

36:46

it's gone. It's gone. It is absolutely gone. You can't recognize

36:52

if you're the working class, you're the everyday person in America, this party

36:55

doesn't want you. If you live in a border state, oh, you

36:59

can vote for a Democrat. They'd appreciate the you know, the hat tip.

37:01

They don't care about you. They're not going to do one thing to

37:05

protect you. They don't care if you live in the border state. This

37:07

party, this Democrat Party, doesn't want you. If if you're if you

37:12

know, if you're so, you can be an anti Semite now and it's

37:15

all the rage. So if you're Jewish Jewish American and they do vote predominantly

37:21

Democrat, that party doesn't really want you. I can go on. I

37:24

mean, how would you like to live in Chicago right now? Your budget

37:27

in Chicago has a one hundred and fifty million dollars for illegal immigrants. Okay,

37:31

while you have a war zone going on with lack of public safety,

37:35

people are getting there's homicides every single night, and the marriage just asked the

37:37

city council this week for seventy million more to accommodate them. The people of

37:43

Chicago are going out of their minds. This is not a political thing, Republican Democrat. People that are having a hard time living in danger, homicide

37:50

rate high like a war zone, are absolutely out of their minds. At

37:52

another additional seventy million requested by the governor and approved by this Chicago City Council

37:58

approved to accommodate who not the people that live in Chicago or the taxpayers,

38:01

but these people. Well, let's take a look at greg at what's going

38:04

on in the city of Denver. Run by a Democrat. Right now,

38:07

what does a Democratic mayor in Denver say, We've got to make room and

38:10

space for the migrants and the immigrants, right and we need some money,

38:15

So we're cutting eight million dollars out of the police and fire department. It

38:19

is, we're taking the money away from safety in their communities so they can

38:23

do more for people who shouldn't be here to begin with. So consistency has

38:28

never been one of the strong points of being in the Democrat Party, but

38:31

they have, they have outdone themselves on this. Do you remember how college

38:36

campuses couldn't have comedians come anymore, oh, because they were saying that comedians

38:40

that that the comedian, the ban on comedians speeches. Speech was violence and

38:45

their and their comedy was violence, and so we can't have it. We

38:49

had when when Trump was elected, and when you know you had safe spaces,

38:52

you had to have faint couches because people needed to be able to handle

38:55

the fact that Trump had been elected. Or if you went to a Halloween

38:59

part and you saw someone in a sombrero, there was cultural appropriation which was

39:04

so evil that they need a safe place to not lay their eyes on such

39:07

evil. But folks if you're Jewish, run for the hills because we can't

39:10

protect you. There isn't a There is a professor at Columbia. He's an

39:15

associate professor from Israel. He has an idea, a pass. He wants

39:20

to push back, he wants to counter protest these protesters. They've turned his

39:23

badge off and he has no access or the pro The people that are pro

39:28

Israel that want students who want to protest these protesters are being prohibited from accessing

39:34

the campus. Meanwhile, the people that are pro Hamas, the pro terrorists,

39:38

pro slaughtering of babies, their ideas are working just fine. They got

39:44

a tense city set up, they got three hundred people protesting in real time.

39:47

They haven't been banned from that campus in any way, shape or form.

39:51

If we don't, I don't know. We have Democrats listening to this show, But I am going to tell you that if you were a Democrat,

39:55

if this is the party you thought you were a part of, nothing

39:59

that we've just described is what they would describe themselves as supporting. And so

40:04

the question becomes this, if this party is coming a part at the seams,

40:07

if fetterment of all people can't stop ripping on this part. You know

40:14

when we when we get the Democrats say, well, you know, there's a white supremacists. So every Republican, you're a white supremacist because you have

40:19

white supremacists that we think are part of your party. Qan On everything else,

40:22

you got Chuck Schumer, you got that's a member of the Senate.

40:25

You've got Bernie Sanders, member of the Senate, all telling Rizralt to unilaterally

40:30

ceasefire and getting protested at the same time. There there is a closer link

40:36

to the anti Semitism, pro terrorism faction of the Democrat Party that you can

40:40

see plain as day, And you can just broad brush every member of the

40:45

Democrat Party into that sentiment more so than the regime media and the Democrats have

40:50

ever accused Republicans wrongly of being white supremacists, which they've done for years.

40:54

Well, you have the leader of the party, who is Joe Biden right

40:58

now, yeah, he knows where he is, uh, condemning Israel right

41:01

now, greg and calling for investigation into human rights violations. Well, you

41:07

know, remember they're defending their country. It's it is, it is gone,

41:10

and this is this is so even even this this irony is unbelievable.

41:15

And I'm sure you've talked about it. This is not this is a couple maybe yeah, two days old. But Biden sees very fine people in the

41:22

Pro Hamas pro terrorist group. Right, you need to understand the Palestinians,

41:25

That's what he said. So he's talking like, hey, you gotta understand

41:29

both sides that the whole uh, these are good people. Erroneous accusation about

41:35

Trump that he was saying that the Neo Nazis were good people was a lie.

41:38

He was saying that people that were concerned about the tearing down of statues

41:42

were doing it from some people there were doing it from a genuine place,

41:45

not in that he condemned the Neo Nazis and all they could do, all

41:49

the regime media could do. And even Biden said he ran because Trump said

41:52

that the Neo Nazis are good people. He says the very thing for real

41:57

that they falsely accused Trump of, that there are good people in these Pro

42:00

Hamas, pro Palestinian people and anti Semitics. So what I'm saying is,

42:07

in Washington, how are they still winning when this party doesn't have any base,

42:13

When this party has alienated so many of the American people. How are

42:15

they still getting their way in Washington? How is it happening? They don't

42:19

have anyone that supports this. In Chicago, they don't support what's going on.

42:22

And the border states they done. You've got these arrogant members regime media

42:29

saying, we don't understand the economy's never done so well. We don't understand

42:31

why there's such a disconnect. I'll tell you why there's a disconnect, because

42:34

economy's not doing well, because food is part of the equation that you don't

42:38

count. Christina am ap Horror, whatever your name is from CNN or these

42:43

economists, these these disconnected liberal economists who say it's all going well. They

42:47

have just completely walked away from the American people. The American people don't want

42:52

this budget they just passed at ninety five billion dollars last night. So why

42:55

are they still getting away with what they're doing? Because that party doesn't exist.

43:00

Republicans. The Republicans are literally holding up this broken, destroyed party.

43:07

It's the Republicans in Washington, DC that are doing it. And it is

43:09

unbelievable that they've got that Democrat party on life support and they're not pulling the

43:14

plug and taking control. They're keeping them relevant and keeping their agenda as insane

43:20

as it is alive. I was going to say that exactly, Greg,

43:22

How's it being kept alive by Republicans who are I don't know what it is.

43:28

They're afraid, I don't know what it is, Greg, They're afraid

43:30

to stand up. There's a great opportunity for the Republican Party in this country

43:34

right now, and they are failing that doing it. And we talked about

43:37

this during the break. You can try to scare us all, and you

43:42

can say that there's real national security problems that are risks that we need to

43:45

surveil Americans and keep fiz of going, that we need to go fund wars

43:49

around the world because it's so scary out there. But you're letting four million

43:52

people a year walk across that border, unknown people from China, people from

43:55

Iran, people from all over the world that want to see our demise,

44:00

and you're not doing one thing about that. You just that leap of logic

44:02

is it's a bridge too far. You can't be serious about those about national

44:07

security if you can't do one thing about that border. And I think the

44:10

American people aren't stupid. I think we're watching this and going, are you

44:14

kidding me? This is this is a joke. You can't keep talking Democrats

44:17

or whatever's left of them, can't keep talking about Trump. You're you're ruining

44:22

the American people in their lives. Yeah. Yeah, And we've got more to say about this, believe it or not, because I think there's still

44:27

a lot more to say about this, and we'll do so when we continue

44:30

right here on wing Man Wednesday and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

44:34

kN Rs. All right, welcome back to wing Man Wednesday. Greg Hughes

44:44

Roder kemp here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Kate and are

44:47

I think Greg, you just laid out a pretty compelling case about the Democratic

44:52

Party no longer exists in this country today, it's the Democratic Party. And

44:55

I think you laid out a case where if you're an America and wondering who

45:00

do you vote for? Yeah, I mean it's pretty compelling caves, pretty

45:04

clear cut caves. Do you want to go this way or do you want

45:07

to go that way? And who wants to go the way of the Democratic Party right now? It's frightening. Do you want to be an anti semi

45:13

Are you a parent that's concerned about the private parts of your kids? Literally

45:16

down to that. There's just no version of what these people are pushing.

45:22

And they get away with calling Republicans white supremacists when there's no connection at all.

45:27

We're not neo Nazis. This was such a reckless association. But you

45:31

can associate the anti Semitism, the defensive terrorism and the slaughtering of children,

45:37

the attacking of our children in schools, the borders, and all the costs

45:40

and at who's detriment. All of that you can lay at the feet of

45:45

these leftists. I don't even call them democrats anymore because I'm convinced that party

45:50

is gone. That party is gone. It wouldn't it be interesting, Greg,

45:53

to get a group of kids, let's say, from Colombia who are

45:55

out there protesting right now, and just sit in front of them and show

46:00

them pictures with what happened on October seventh and say do you support that?

46:05

I don't know if they know exactly what happened. They may not have the

46:07

ugly details. Rod When I was on that plane on Friday, I was

46:12

listening from those protesters saying we are Hamas. They weren't saying we're Palestinians.

46:16

We're not the Hama. We're not Hamas. Those are the bad guys.

46:20

We're not they said, we're Hamas. It shouldn't have just happened once.

46:23

It should happen. It shouldn't happened ten times, one hundred times, three

46:28

hundred times, three thousand times. It should happen thousands of times. I

46:30

mean, that's what they were saying out loud. I mean, it's it

46:35

is. It's wrong. It's wrong on every level. And the Democrats have

46:39

never been good about, like I said, about consistency. They love to

46:43

preach, they love to wag their fingers, they like to tear down institutions. They build nothing. But if anyone's tracking what these guys are doing,

46:50

this, what they're I mean, you wouldn't want to be a part of it, No part of no. But you know, we have some very

46:55

good friends here in this state who are Democrats. Yes, good people.

47:00

You work with them, I work for them. They're really good. I wonder what they think about this. I'm going to bring it up. I

47:05

do a podcast, bring it up to Friday. Yeah, I wonder what

47:08

they think about this? Pretty amazing it is, and it's again, I

47:12

think it's reckless. I think, you know, Breitbart said, and he

47:15

was using the Saul Olinsky, who was the big communist, who is who's

47:20

you know rules for radical rule. Well, he says one of his great

47:22

rules is hold them to their own rules. Hold them because their hypocrisy will

47:28

never last. And he was thinking that because we're Judeo Christian and we wanted

47:31

the ends doesn't justify the means. We want to be moral and what we

47:35

do. That that's where you can really get Judeo Christians or people that believe

47:38

in doing what's right. You can make them look like hypocrites because we're not

47:42

perfect. But hold these democrats and these people that want to throw out racism

47:46

and they want to go through all this identity politics, hold them to their

47:51

own rules. They can't survive. You can't have a fainting couch for someone

47:54

wearing a sombrero at a at a Halloween party. And then tell it.

47:59

Turn around and tell those Jewish students they got to run for their lives because they're never gonna they're not gonna be able to protect them. Come on,

48:05

that's the way it is, all right more coming up. When we come back, we'll get a news update. Then we're I'll spend some time talking

48:09

about the upcoming convention, surprises, what may happen there, We'll talk about

48:15

it coming up right here on Wingman Wednesday. All right, welcome back Wingman

48:32

Wednesday. Citizen Hughes brought here to report. Yeah, here to report on

48:37

Utah's Talk Radio one O five nine kN rs live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

48:45

Yeah, we do it all And folks, if you missed any of the segments, why my question. But if you did, the show gets

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entirety as a podcast on the iHeartRadio app knars dot comments where you find it.

49:01

But we should let's talk about the convention because you and I will be

49:05

there on Saturday. We will. You know, I was looking. You

49:07

were gracious enough because you have connections to show me the agenda. I mean,

49:13

there's a lot going on Saturday. It is very lengthy. There's a

49:15

lot. There's a lot going on there. There are pages that's a double

49:20

Each page has print on both sides of the page, and it is four

49:23

pages of agenda. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, So it's it's it's there's

49:30

going to be a lot of speeches. There's a lot of nerves going on right now. People are counting that for the candidates that did not seek signatures,

49:36

which there are a lot in different races, this is do or die

49:39

if you get. If you don't get at least forty percent of the delegates

49:43

support, you're that Saturday will be the last day that you're campaigning, and

49:46

that and so that that reality is real, and it's it creates the stress

49:51

to you you've been through. What are candidates doing right now, especially especially

49:54

if they didn't go the signature path because those that did are guaranteed to be

49:59

on the June primary ballot, right, yep? Those who didn't, what

50:04

are they doing? Are they still working the delegates? Oh? They are?

50:07

I mean phone call after phone call. What are they doing? Greg? So they are continued, They will not stop reaching out. Every delegate

50:14

counts and and you're refining your lists of delegates, and you're in your the

50:17

mail. The volume of mail that's being sent and the texts that are being

50:22

received. You would not believe how many pieces of mail from all the different

50:25

races that state delegates are getting right now. I don't know how mailmen are

50:29

actually mailman or male person. Be careful the male carrier getting all of these.

50:37

And there's this it's kind of a funny school thought. The bigger the

50:40

flyer, the better it is. They're like posters. There's a giant.

50:45

I don't know how they're fitting in the post boxes, but they're getting that.

50:47

They're getting texts, I'll bet you, and I'm this is no exaggeration.

50:52

There is. There are probably a hundred touches a day that delegates are

50:58

living through right now, through email, texts and mail, one hundred touches

51:02

from various candidates building up for Sunday Saturday's convention. Can I tell you funny.

51:08

I've been fortunate enough twice now to service in state delegate right and it's

51:14

really yeah, I enjoy doing that. It drives my wife nuts because of

51:17

what you just said. She said, one day, if I get another

51:22

piece of mail, or if I get another phone message from any of these

51:25

candidates, I'm gonna scream. I mean, you're right with the mail,

51:30

and I didn't realize the bigger, the bigger the direct mail piece, the more attention it gets. That's what they think really, and it just keeps

51:36

growing. Everyone's trying to outdo each other. They're coming in with like tarps.

51:39

Now, I mean no, no, it's it is. I saw

51:42

a mail piece that was so big I could not believe with a straight face

51:46

that they could even get the post Office US Postal Service to send it that

51:51

size. It wasn't folded over, really, it was just bent over. It was kind of it. So anyway, the mail is NonStop, it's

51:59

all the there's a lot of it. And then you have again the emails

52:02

and the digital and your texts and your your phone will never be safe again.

52:07

But I would call these flowers of democracy. I would call these you

52:12

know this democratic republic we have. You don't want coronations, You don't want

52:15

just one candidate. Let the let the let all the mail and all the

52:20

contacts happen, and let people be as as informed about each candidate as humanly

52:25

possible. Because I think when that happens, that's where some variables can come

52:30

in, where you know, you might have someone make a good point or

52:34

have a very strong organization to get to those delegates in a more efficient way,

52:37

and they might see the fruits of that labor in the cupcoming convention.

52:43

Is there any research or study done on direct mail pieces? Do they work

52:50

well? Because when I was a delegate, like I said, my wife,

52:53

she was ready to kick me out of I'll give you the rule.

52:58

I don't know about scientific data, but I'll give you the rule of thumb

53:00

that those in the know, and I was one of them that we believed. And you can see where amateurs don't know this, like they make it

53:07

a Wikipedia page on that direct mail or they'll put they try to cram as

53:09

many words as they can on there, which is a complete waste of time.

53:13

You have from the time the person goes to the mailbox to the time

53:17

they get to their kitchen garbage can. That's what you have, okay.

53:22

And that's while they're flipping through all the mail, okay. So they're looking

53:25

and you're getting whatever bandwidth from that mailbox outside to that kitchen garbage can in

53:31

the amount of mail you're getting, that's what you get. And then it

53:35

goes from especially once you get to this stage where they've received so much.

53:37

It's going there. So you want the themes to be in bold, you

53:43

want the priorities to be high, and you want something that catches an eye

53:46

and leaves the leaves your message as best as you can share it, and

53:52

you don't have a lot of time. No one's nobody is just pouring over

53:54

all this mail. They're just reading and hanging on every word. It's not

53:58

happening. All right, We're gonna talk more about the convention when we come

54:01

back right here on wing Man Wednesday in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

54:05

kN RS. The Utah State Republican Convention coming up this Saturday, gets underway

54:17

at the Salt Palace and Wingman Wednesday special edition of Wingman Wednesday, the Saturday

54:23

edition will be there wing Man Saturday. Yeah, I know it's it's I'm

54:29

so glad that Canters has decided to have a life broadcast. It really is.

54:35

And we're hoping we'll be back at the national convention in Milwaukee in July.

54:38

I know that's gonna be fun to that media row. Yeah, that'll

54:42

be a lot of fun. All right, let's get you know, we haven't taken eight calls today, a lot of things, but let's then open

54:45

up the lines eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero or on your

54:50

cell phone dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, We've talked

54:52

about a lot of things today. Let's see what Frank in Salt Lake City

54:55

has on his mind tonight. Frank, how are you welcome to wing Man

54:58

Wednesday? Thank you? Yeah. I guess I'm getting a certain amount of

55:02

perverse satisfaction out of all the literature that delegates are getting because in our precinct

55:08

we were swamped with Democrats that had switched affiliation to come to the meeting,

55:14

and they voted in three Democrats as delegates from our precinct to go on to

55:20

the convention. So if they're getting swamped with literature, I'm more of the

55:24

marri or to them. Maybe they'll think twice about doing their thing. It's

55:28

like a crash course in logic. They can't handle it. Are you just

55:31

smiling? Are you just smiling? Frank? Every day just kind of chuckling

55:36

a little bit pretty much, because I've been at state delegate before and I

55:39

know what it's like. So I just hope they get burned out on it.

55:45

Me too. These people are way into this. We just get marching

55:50

orders. We don't think this through like this. Can I tell you what

55:52

bothers me? And you get this from the media all the time, the

55:55

criticism of the convention system, yeah right, and the caucuses them. These

56:00

are dedicated people who spend their time very knowledgeable about the topics. I mean,

56:06

these are the people that you want selecting leaders elected by their neighbors,

56:09

elected by their names, by their neighbors. Yes, so as long as

56:13

you get a high bad or turnout, or get a high participation rate, which is what we always want. Hey, Matt, you you cannot just

56:19

demonize this whole state and say everybody that's a delegates crazy. When it's a

56:22

high, high participation and the neighbors elect their neighbors to go through this vetting

56:27

process, it's it's a great system. You know. We don't want to

56:30

lose it, and I hope we don't, but there's pressure, yeah,

56:32

as you well know. Yeah. Well I'll tell you what if you want

56:35

a carpet bomb. If you had a ton of money and you or you know how to raise a ton of money and you just want to carpet bomb

56:39

a district that you want to run for and never have to actually touch a

56:43

hand, shake a hand, answer a hard question, well then you hate it. Convention, a caucus convention cycle, you'd much rather just have the

56:51

media and the direct mail do the talking for you. And you know what

56:53

I've liked so far during this election season, Greg, these candidates have been

56:58

out working. I mean they've had town hall meetings. Yeah, they're they're

57:01

they're talking to people all the time. I mean, this is this is

57:05

a retail politics, you know, they're you know, theirs every their visity,

57:10

ice cream shops and Chick fil Aids, just to meet the people.

57:14

So I I have been a candidate in ten conventions. I've done it ten.

57:16

I've had ten different conventions where so but I will tell you I have

57:22

gone into that experience. Uh, I've come out different with different perspectives after

57:27

speaking at a high level with so many delegates, listening to their concerns,

57:30

their priorities. You never go you never come out the same way you went

57:34

in, which is a good thing. But I'll tell you this too,

57:37

the going through that refiners fire, you do get. I just think I

57:44

think you get a lot more empathy and a lot more understanding of what what's

57:49

in front of you when you're on campaigning. Did anything surprise you, Yes,

57:52

all the time. I was shocked sometimes all the time about the issues

57:58

that were really weighing on people's mind. Is that weren't the ones that I thought necessarily were the ones that were most critical. And I leave that experience

58:07

thinking to myself, if I had the chance to meet every single person that

58:10

could vote for me or against me, I would take that opportunity. Yeah,

58:14

because you don't want to be misrepresented. You don't want to be you know, misunderstood. But if you had the actual time to meet everyone that

58:20

could vote for or against you, you might not like that they that you

58:22

gave it your best shot and they don't like you and they don't want to vote for you. But at least you knew that, know that you didn't

58:28

get you know, you didn't get sideswiped, and you didn't get misrepresented.

58:31

And so I that's what a what that's what a convention gives you with delegates

58:36

is the opportunity, if you're good enough and you're fishent enough to really meet

58:38

with everyone that's going to vote for or against you. And I think that's

58:42

a that's a that's a good that's a good deal. Well, let us

58:44

tell you why you need to listen on Saturday. We'll be on from three to five over at the ould pelas. We are aware of some surprises that

58:51

are going to be happening. We can't share them with you, but there

58:54

are a few surprises out there. I'm looking at voter You don't have to

58:59

poll delegates by by the way, you know, not the poem because it's

59:01

a closed shop. You know how many so it's not a poll. You

59:06

can see numbers and you can see some interesting things developing. All right.

59:09

When we come back after news update the criminal prosecution of illegal alien whatever happened

59:15

to it. Two voices together to save Utah and the US. It's three

59:23

compelling hours of analysis, debates and laughter. Wing Man Wednesday with run our

59:30

Cant and Great Hughes now on utass Talk Radio one oh five nine. Knrs

59:44

inter read it for the big I ever bat again in the vein. There's

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a little church emos. It's about the listenland, if your faith they're strong

1:00:06

enough shown you outwind the praise. The load passed me and coming here.

1:00:15

All right, welcome back. It is Wingman Wednesday here on Utah Talk Radio

1:00:21

one o five nine. Kate and r S brought our cat along with citizen

1:00:25

Greg Hughes. You know they've had a big celebration going on over the at

1:00:30

Delta Center. Not as good as ours. I'm not even watching it.

1:00:35

Do you have a Do you have a name for this team? Do you

1:00:37

have a faith? I like Outlaws? You know, I can't. I

1:00:40

think I heard you'd suggest that or someone did. Yeah. I like that.

1:00:45

Yeah. Look when bringing me, When bringing me, you came out of here, man. They were they were getting chased their outlaws, right,

1:00:50

they were outlaws. Yeah, their outlaws, And I like, you know, home of the what is it? It's uh? Butch Cassidy was

1:00:58

he from here? Yeah? We got Yeah, but was the game?

1:01:02

So I'm telling you, I think I like Outlaws. I know I don't

1:01:06

mind Blizzard. That's one name being suggested. There are a lot of people

1:01:12

are saying, why not naming them the Golden Eagles after the old gold Golden

1:01:15

Eagles. You know, I like mammoths because that is a large prehistoric Republican

1:01:22

Republican Republican. It's a Republican elephant, So mammoths would just be a giant

1:01:29

Republican elephant. You know, I would love that. Another name that's been

1:01:32

mentioned as YETI yeah, does anyone know what a y is? It's an

1:01:36

abominable stone. I know that from the Hemlands. You have to look it up. Well, I thought, you know, do you know that off

1:01:42

the top of your head. No, I thought it was I thought it was a cup. I thought it was like the Stanley Cup, the Yetti

1:01:45

cup. I thought it was what you drink out of all the all the

1:01:49

all the moms are running around, all the soccer moms have in their hand,

1:01:52

all the yetti. I didn't even think about it. Yeah, they

1:01:54

got these cups they drink out of. That's what I thought it was.

1:01:58

I'm like, yeah, I like the Stanley Cup, if we're talking hotsy

1:02:00

more than the Yeti Cup. But but you, I'm kind of with you.

1:02:04

I kind of like outlaws. I don't want anything with a B.

1:02:06

I don't want swarm, I don't want anything. I just don't want We've

1:02:09

done that, We've been there, done that. Let's we didn't get jazz

1:02:13

with all, which started a kind of the ZEA friend they did was a

1:02:16

New Orleans team that had something to do with with music, but we kept

1:02:20

the name. Yeah, just get a good name, brand it yourself,

1:02:22

don't try to draw off of, you know, other names, and just

1:02:27

run with Yeah. Yeah, i'd have taken coyotes of the guy that owned

1:02:30

the team, didn't keep that name out. Are there coyotes in Utah? Yeah? Imagine there are are? Yeah, imagine there are. All right,

1:02:36

all right, let's talk about illegal immigration, which we haven't spent a

1:02:38

lot of time talking about today as a matter of fact at all. You

1:02:42

know this this whole immigration mess, Greg, as you mentioned here, we

1:02:45

have we're giving let's see, we're about to spend ninety five billion as with

1:02:51

a b aid to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. Don't have problem with the

1:02:55

Israel issue, don't have a problem with the Taiwan issue, the Ukraine issue.

1:02:59

But the side of that is no money for border security or not that

1:03:02

I'm aware of, are you No, No, there's not, And it's

1:03:06

it was one of those lines in the sand that that you know that our

1:03:09

new speaker drew early on to say, you got nothing. It's all dead

1:03:13

on arrival unless we get serious about this border, which makes sense if we're

1:03:16

talking national security. So I'm you know, I just lou disappointing. I

1:03:21

think, yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. Well joining us not When our news maker lined to talk more about the border, is Luke Rosiek.

1:03:27

He is an investigative reporter of The Daily Wire, and we're all talking about

1:03:30

criminal prosecutions. Luke, thanks for joining us today. The prosecutions, the

1:03:35

criminal prosecutions of illegal immigrants stopped when coronavirus hit, right, they've never resumed.

1:03:40

Why not, Luke, Well, what's amazing is after coronavirus kind of

1:03:45

shut down the courts in April of twenty twenty, they just really never came

1:03:49

back. The remainder of the Trump presidency, these courts were basically closed and

1:03:52

you weren't able to criminally charge people with violating our border laws. But since

1:03:58

then years have passed and the kind is reopened and coronavirus is long in the

1:04:01

rear of your mirror. And yet the Biden administs Biden administration came in in

1:04:05

January of twenty twenty one and never reopened to those courts. I guess they're

1:04:10

open, but they're barely doing anything. And so you hear a lot about

1:04:15

different statistics about illegal immigration, and no matter how you look at it,

1:04:17

they're off the charts, no matter what metric you look at. But this

1:04:20

is one that people haven't really talked about because usually what you're doing is you're

1:04:25

talking about deportations, which are civil proceedings. Basically, you cross the border,

1:04:30

we catch you, we give you a ticket, we say show up for court at this date, and if you do and things don't go your

1:04:34

way, you're going to be sent back to your country. But crossing the

1:04:38

border illegally is illegal, shockingly enough, and typically when you break the law,

1:04:43

you are brought to criminal court, you are arrested, and you go

1:04:46

before a judge who can send you to jail. That's actually what's always happened

1:04:50

in the past, and so Biden has totally changed the entire paradigm here where

1:04:56

he's not even using criminal courts, he's not invoking criminal laws against these people.

1:05:00

It's just kind of you tried it across the border, we might send you back. That's kind of the worst thing that can happen is that you

1:05:05

get lucky, you stay, things go your way, things don't go your

1:05:09

way, you get sent back, but there's no possibility of a punishment.

1:05:12

So what's happening here is the rapid and you look at this chart and it's

1:05:15

just dramatic. The total cessation of criminal chargers means it's kind of like if

1:05:21

the punishment for robbing a bank and getting caught was you just had to give

1:05:26

the money back, It's like, well, I'm just gonna keep trying then,

1:05:29

and if I succeed, I keep the money. If not, I give it back and I try again. And so that's what's happening with people

1:05:34

who get deported and then they come back is really there's no punishment. There's

1:05:39

no risk that you are going to be sent to jail for violating our border

1:05:43

laws. And so when people talk about Biden in particular, has said,

1:05:46

well, it's not my fault. I can't secure the border unless Congress gives

1:05:50

me new authorities and more money and so on. While this data really causes

1:05:57

a problem for that line of thinking because it's like, you have existing criminal

1:06:00

authority to prosecute illegal immigration under criminal law, and you're not doing it.

1:06:05

Luke, this is a very interesting discussion, especially because you early just you

1:06:10

started out delineating between the criminal and the civil detentions. What the State of

1:06:15

Utah is grappling with right now is that ICE is only presenting civil detentions to

1:06:19

our jails and for contracts, and those contracts for civil detention our jails aren't.

1:06:26

They're made for criminals. They don't have the egress ingress, they don't

1:06:29

have all those special accommodations that a civil detention is supposed to have. And

1:06:32

yet ICE isn't presenting any real criminal illegal entries. Everything is on the civil

1:06:39

side. Do you think that's not I think it's on purpose. Are they

1:06:44

just ignoring the criminal part wholly and just trying to because you cannot get someone

1:06:48

civilly held in a jail the way the jails are designed. So is that

1:06:53

by design with this administration? Yeah, it's definitely by design. I mean,

1:06:57

for example, in twenty eighteen, the DOJ charged eighty four thousand people

1:07:02

with a misdemeanor illegal illegally crossing the border. In the first three years of

1:07:08

the Biden presidency. Added all together, that total is only eleven thousand,

1:07:13

So it's basically four percent of what it used to. They're basically just almost

1:07:15

never doing this, And so I was thinking, you know, is this

1:07:19

just Trump did something differently than everybody else and Biden is just kind of going

1:07:24

back to what you would expect a Democrat president to do. But interestingly enough,

1:07:29

that's not the case. It's Biden here who's departing from decades of president

1:07:32

it was every president of every party who in the past used criminal law to

1:07:38

prosecute violations of the law, including border crossings. I mean, so you

1:07:43

have Biden even when it comes to so basically, if you cross the border

1:07:46

the first time, that's a misdemeanor crime. If you get deported and you

1:07:50

come back and you cross the border illegally a second time, that's a felony.

1:07:54

And so in the past, you know, for example, Barack Obama

1:07:58

took that very seriously. If you're committing felony of coming back to the country

1:08:00

after we've already deported you, Barack Obama was going to lock you up.

1:08:04

And ninety eight percent of those people got went to jail for a full year.

1:08:11

These people who keep coming back it kind of their proof of this idea

1:08:15

that you needed a turrent that you know, literally they've already been deported and

1:08:19

it didn't stop them. They just turned around and came right back. And

1:08:23

so they're thinking, here is you need an actual deterrence. That's what criminal

1:08:27

punishment is. And so you know, Biden has been prosecuting those felony cases

1:08:33

of re entry at like half the rate that Obama did. This is totally

1:08:39

atypical what Biden is doing, even for a Democrat president. And you can

1:08:42

look at that historical data and it just drops way off. And so these

1:08:45

people that have been deported and then come back. The United States Sentencing Commission

1:08:50

has data on that and it talks about how these prosecutions have gone way down.

1:08:56

It says that ninety eight percent of these felons are men. Their average

1:09:00

age is thirty nine. Many had extensive criminal histories. So these aren't you

1:09:03

know, they want you to believe it's some little girl and the families being

1:09:05

ripped. These are like human traffickers and stuff like that. They're all there,

1:09:10

and typically they were sent to jail because they've showed no respect for our

1:09:13

borders. And this is an authority that every president has always had. The

1:09:15

Department of Justice obviously has a budget for prosecuting and jailing people. And what's

1:09:20

different with this administration on like Obama on, like Trump onlike George Bush,

1:09:25

don't like anybody else, is Biden has just chosen not to use the Department

1:09:29

of Justice for that purpose. Look, would this be Biden's call or would

1:09:31

it even go down to may orchis would he have an involvement in this at

1:09:35

all? Yeah, he definitely has an involvement. I mean, basically,

1:09:40

the Department of Justice gets referrals from the different agencies, and it would be

1:09:44

Department of Homeland Security that would typically refer these cases. So they're either the

1:09:47

DHS is not bringing the cases or the dj is declining to prosecute them.

1:09:51

But obviously there's been a wholesale policy change here to cause such a dramatic uh

1:09:58

you know, basically it just whole changing how we're responding to immigration in this

1:10:01

country. And it's funny because obviously illegal border crossings are at a record high

1:10:06

right now, and in the past, prosecution of illegal immigration has generally correlated

1:10:13

with how many people are doing the crime. More people do the crime,

1:10:15

more people get prosecuted. In this case, you have the most illegal border

1:10:19

crossings going on and the least prosecutions going on. So it's kind of the

1:10:24

opposite of what you would expect. But some people would say that makes sense.

1:10:29

There's no deterrent, and as a result, more people are flooding the

1:10:31

country because when you get in and you realize there's really no repercussions even if

1:10:35

they do catch US, the word gets back to those Latin American countries and

1:10:40

the family members start coming over, and pretty soon word spreads and it's just

1:10:44

a free for all on the border. Luke, my question is I believe

1:10:49

I have watched. I've observed, even those that are crossing illegally, it

1:10:54

seems that the Border patrol processes them almost like they came through a proper port

1:10:58

of entry, and there's instructions to go and register at ICE and get your

1:11:01

court date. So illegal entries that are not done through the APP and the

1:11:06

normal port of entry seems to be handled like it's a civil issue of asylum

1:11:12

or whatever it is. Am I accurate? And what I'm watching there is

1:11:15

are they are they processing illegal entry like it's a asylum seeker and putting them

1:11:20

into the process civilly. Yeah, that's a great analogy. And you know,

1:11:28

for my story in the Daily Wire, I interviewed a former DOJ official

1:11:30

who said that the Biden administration is basically turned it into a traffic ticket.

1:11:34

But it's not a traffic ticket. Acrossing the border illegally is a crime under

1:11:38

a US you know, penal law. So but right now, yeah,

1:11:43

they basically give you a ticket and they say, yeah, I go live your life. We'll even drive you to a different state if you want.

1:11:47

Yeah, help you get set up and live here. And in five years

1:11:51

we asked that you show up for a court date, and the overwhelming people

1:11:56

a percentage of people don't show up for this court dates and they know that

1:11:59

going in and so by contrast, if this is treated through the criminal courts

1:12:02

as it has been in the past, and as they continue to have the authority to do, you don't get a ticket, you get handcuffed, and

1:12:08

you get taken to a facility where you're held until your case is adjudicated.

1:12:11

Luke, thank you for joining us that. Luke Rosiake as the investigative reporter

1:12:15

of the Daily Wire talking about coronal prosecutions of illegal immigrants and Greg you were

1:12:19

making some good points. I know you work with the Sheriff's Association. It's

1:12:24

really troubling for sheriffs to try and figure all this out and what they should

1:12:27

and shouldn't be doing. Just to understand these elected these county elected sheriffs,

1:12:30

they have jails and they arrest people that commit crimes. Every jail is designed

1:12:36

for a criminal, for a criminal arrest. Yeah, these ice contracts are

1:12:42

civil detentions where they can come and go as they police, use the phone

1:12:45

anytime they want, get outside when they want, have their own ingress,

1:12:48

egress, shampoo, special soap, special barbers. It doesn't work. And

1:12:54

literally that is the contract. And you can have third party aco you come

1:12:56

in and inspect your facility at any time. Unannounce. It doesn't work.

1:13:00

It is it is by design to not have those detentions happen, and that's

1:13:04

what they want to have happened. All right, more coming up. You're

1:13:08

on Wingman Wednesday and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs all right,

1:13:24

welcome back wing Men Wednesday here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

1:13:27

k and r ass. Now, the list of I don't know how you

1:13:32

describe him anymore. The list of stories that Joe Biden spits out all the

1:13:36

time are pretty amazing. The latest and I think this this, you know,

1:13:42

someone should rank the top whoppers that he's told, right, the top

1:13:45

ten whoppers. This one was best when he said was it last week that

1:13:50

his was his uncle Bossy. Uncle Bossy shot down during World War two playing

1:13:57

in the Pacific, Right, yep, and they never recovered his body because

1:14:00

he was eaten by cannibals. I know, and everybody's had a very good

1:14:03

laugh about this, and I can see why, because cannibalism, and you

1:14:08

know, it's just it's such an outlandish story. And because the man again

1:14:12

a special prosecutor, can't try him for holding documents he didn't have because he's

1:14:15

not competent to stand trial, he can still run. I can see why

1:14:19

people had a jaundiced eye to this story, Okay, because it sounds like

1:14:24

cannibals. Are you kidding me? I got to tell you, folks,

1:14:27

I'm the last guy on earth that should be defending Joe Biden. But this,

1:14:30

of all his stories, I'm going to tell you, this one is

1:14:33

plausible. And I'll tell you how. I know. You've lived there for

1:14:36

two years in that area in Australia, New Zealand, right and New Guinea,

1:14:44

Australia, Brisbane, Australian and pap Ne Guinea. I spent seven months

1:14:46

living in Papua New Guinea. And now look, pap New Guinea is h

1:14:51

Their Prime minister is ticked over this because like everybody's now saying, Papua New

1:14:56

Guinea and cannibalism in the same sentence, and he's like, we don't have

1:15:00

does not exist in twenty twenty four and we were wrapped into a war that

1:15:02

we didn't start it, we didn't want to be in. And he's got

1:15:04

a lot to say. He should defend his country, and it's not really

1:15:08

nice of Joe Biden to disparage or associate Papua New Guinea with cannibalism. However,

1:15:14

may I say, and may I submit for your consideration that I learned

1:15:18

as a young man in nineteen ninety that cannibalism wasn't that far in their history

1:15:26

and that cannibalism amongst tribes was something that didn't have the stigma that it has

1:15:31

to day. So you're saying the story, although it didn't happen, it

1:15:35

is plausible. So he crashed off of the close to Papenoghiney over the ocean

1:15:43

in a low level plane at low level crash and he wasn't shot down,

1:15:46

it lost power and went down. If he parachuted out and he made it

1:15:50

to shore, it is absolutely within the realm of possibility that he was lunch

1:15:58

for somebody. I hate to say it. So that's in the forties.

1:16:01

And let me just submit this as an example of why this is a legitimate

1:16:06

premise. Nelson Rockefeller in nineteen sixty one is the heir the Rockefeller family is

1:16:16

a liberal Republican. Yes, and he's and they're wealthy. They get the

1:16:19

generational wealth all that. He is the governor of New York and his eldest

1:16:24

son is who's twenty three at the time, Michael Rockefeller. He is the

1:16:28

heir to the Rockefeller fortune. He is a bit of an adventurer, and

1:16:31

he decided to go to Papa New Guinea to look at to take pictures of

1:16:35

and to understand these tribes. His boat capsized. He was in an area

1:16:40

of Papa Guinea where it was warned that you better not go on on the

1:16:43

shores there, and his boat capsized. One guy stayed with the capsized boat

1:16:48

and was literally rescued two hours later. He went on shore, never to

1:16:51

be seen again. So you're saying, I'm saying, and there have been

1:16:56

books written that they they deployed many resources to comb that island and Papua New

1:17:01

Guinea for his son, Governor Rockefeller's son, Michael Rockefeller, of which they

1:17:05

never found. The man wrote a book about ten years ago, where he

1:17:10

claims he interviewed the sons of the men who say they ate him, that

1:17:15

they ate him, that they ate Michael Rockefeller. So if Michael Boss he

1:17:20

made it to the shore, folks, I'm gonna tie in. He could

1:17:24

have been. He could have been. I mean, of all the stories,

1:17:27

I don't believe he drove an eighteen wheeler truck, he's not BJ and

1:17:30

the bear I don't believe any of that. But the cannibalism one he's getting

1:17:33

a lot of grief over, and that's the one I'm going eh. I

1:17:35

actually think that could have happened. It could have happened to him, and

1:17:40

state departments that never happened, I don't know. I don't know how they

1:17:44

know. If you don't have bones and you don't have anything, you can find and there's a lot of records still over there. I found that too

1:17:48

when I was over there. There's a lot. And that's what the Prime Minister said, Come clean up your all your bones and you and your crash

1:17:54

planes and boats and see where he is. There's a lot out there.

1:17:57

You're insight is so valuable. So that's my on the on the ground observation

1:18:01

cannibalism not as rare as you would hope. I'm just saying in New Guinea,

1:18:06

in New Guinea, and I love Papuna Guinea. I'm not disparaging Papuna

1:18:10

Guinea. I'm trying to actually just say it's not all around in twenty twenty

1:18:14

four. But that story is not as outlandish as it may sound. All

1:18:16

right, Mark coming up on Wingman Wednesday and UTAs Talk Radio one O five

1:18:20

nine kN R S. All right, final half hour of Wingman Wednesday.

1:18:30

We talked a lot about not a lot of different things today. We have

1:18:33

so much going on. The landscape is large and expansive, and we have

1:18:39

covered much of it, you know, and we do need to remind people

1:18:43

if they want to come by and say, huh yeah, I'll actually get

1:18:45

to see us. That may be a turnoff some people, you know.

1:18:48

So I had some feedback that someone met a delicate a county delegate a couple

1:18:55

of weeks ago that said, I don't like this Citizen Hughes Moniker. Really

1:18:59

I don't like what I said. You know, it's kind of I'm just I'm just, you know, Citizen Hughes. Now, I'm not I'm not

1:19:03

a public servant. And he said that that every public servant is a citizen.

1:19:10

I'm like, well, that's true too. So you know, all

1:19:12

your feedback is always good. You aren't changing. I'm not. But if

1:19:15

if we went to this, if we went to the convention on Saturday,

1:19:17

and everyone says, boy, I hate your name, I would have to

1:19:19

think about this. I'd have to really revisit the citizen. Hughes don't do

1:19:25

that well. Before the break, we were talking about Joe Biden and his

1:19:29

uncle beat being whitched by cannibals, which I think has has an era of

1:19:34

possibility to it. Sorry, yeah, but he he is getting roasted today.

1:19:40

Joe Biden. He was at an event yesterday in Florida. Right,

1:19:43

it was a pro choice event talking about abortion and why women should have the

1:19:46

right to abort their child, to say if they want right, And during

1:19:50

the during the remarks made by someone who is standing next to him, he

1:19:55

made the sign of the cross. Now, it is just it is so

1:20:00

bad. That is just a I mean, come on, Joe, did

1:20:03

he get law? What happened to Joe? You can't? I mean,

1:20:06

that would be like pulling out a pork sandwich at a at a bar mits

1:20:12

Okay, I mean, come on, yeah, what are you doing?

1:20:14

That's what he did well, joining us on our Newsmaker line to get more reaction to that. As Sean Carney Shawn as president and CEO of Forty Days

1:20:21

of Life. Sean, what was your reaction? I mean, were you

1:20:24

shocked as much as I was? When I saw Joe Biden make the sign

1:20:27

of the Cross during a pro choice rally. I think he thought he was

1:20:30

a church. I don't think he knew where he was, and you know,

1:20:34

it's habitual. It would make sense Biden has made abortion of sacrament.

1:20:42

It's definitely a golden calf for the Democrats right now since the overturning of Row.

1:20:47

So I just think it made a lot of sense in so many different

1:20:53

ways. I mean, he's been an embarrassment for the Catholic Church. He

1:20:57

has swaunted his Catholic faith publicly for decades, left supporting abortion publicly for decades,

1:21:03

and it only makes sense to tie the scandal up into a nice bow

1:21:08

that during the description of late term abortion which was going on, he made

1:21:14

the sign of the cross, Sean says in Hughes here. So Brian Birch,

1:21:19

the president of Catholic Vote. Catholic Vote, it's an organization that really

1:21:25

went after President Biden after this making the sign of the cross, added a

1:21:29

pro abortion rally. In his quote, he says that Biden's gesture suggests he's

1:21:34

either entirely or terribly naive, senile, or callously indifferent. If you had

1:21:42

to choose from a three of naive, s now or callously indifferent, what's

1:21:45

your hunch with this president? He's not naive. He's not naive. He's

1:21:49

a grown man. He's a grown man. He's definitely senile, and he

1:21:57

could care less what the church teaches. I mean, we just we just

1:22:01

we know this about him. He doesn't know what's going on. I mean,

1:22:05

he's completely out of it. This is this is like the twenty eight

1:22:10

thousandth incident of something like this happening. And yet they're they're sort of,

1:22:15

you know, propping it up. I think it helps Trump. I mean,

1:22:21

he's making Trump look like an up and coming thirty six year old politician,

1:22:28

isn't That is the truth. And you know, we all know,

1:22:32

and people are like I heard Bill marsh say this age ism. No,

1:22:36

it's not half the country loves Trump, and he's really old, you know,

1:22:42

and you know, there's there's old, and there's old, and we

1:22:45

all know, you know, very old fifty year olds, and we all

1:22:50

know very young eighty five year olds, and and Trump is a very old,

1:22:55

nearly eighty year old, and Biden's a really really old eighty year old.

1:23:00

And it just shows, and it's it's embarrassing for him personally, but

1:23:06

also for our country. And this is just cringe. I mean, he's,

1:23:13

you know, there's a way to be just He's like a guy having

1:23:19

the affair who like turns into his mistress and says, hold on, I

1:23:23

got to text my wife real quick. I mean, it's just the worst

1:23:26

timing possible. He's asked the pro abortion rally, this is when you like,

1:23:30

we don't really talk about being Catholic and all that stuff, and then

1:23:33

he makes the sign of the Cross and references the Holy Trinity. It's the

1:23:39

whole thing is brutal. It's very well and at an event even later after

1:23:43

this, Sean he gave a speech. He turned apparently to you know,

1:23:47

give a handshake to a ghost because there was nobody there, Sean, and

1:23:50

he got lost on the stage again. I want to ask you, though,

1:23:55

Sean, your take. You know, the media, the legacy media,

1:23:58

is trying to play up that abortion is going to be a big,

1:24:00

big deal in this election. There are many other things out there that the

1:24:03

American people are concerned about. What's your take on the role of abortion during

1:24:08

this upcoming election, Sean Well, I think it had a huge role as

1:24:12

a knee jerk reaction of the overturning of Row. And I think that that

1:24:15

reaction has a shelf life and we're starting to see that. I mean,

1:24:18

one of the most recent polls showed that abortion was number six for Democrats and

1:24:24

number five for pro lifers. I think one of the things propping up abortion

1:24:29

sort of this panic, you know, life support issue of we're all worried

1:24:33

about it. I don't think it's the Democrats. They're forcing it, but

1:24:36

they've always forced it. It's a stupid Republicans walking on eggshells, terrified that

1:24:42

abortion is going to come up, embarrass of the pro life movement, Embarrassed

1:24:46

of the Supreme Court overturning Row, even though that's what we worked for all

1:24:53

these years and it actually happened under Trump. And yet they just they're they're

1:24:58

terrified of it. And a dog can sense when you're scared. And I

1:25:01

think that the fear of the Republicans really is encouraging to the Democrats, no

1:25:06

doubt. But with everything else going on in our country, if they would

1:25:11

address abortion, you know, head on, and then move on to other

1:25:15

issues, I think they'd be fine. Sean last, just last question.

1:25:18

Moments like this where you're really rubbing people's nose in this issue of abortion,

1:25:24

of all the things to do, it would be the worst thing you could

1:25:28

do is to pull in your faith or show any signal of faith, but

1:25:31

your Catholic faith, especially on an issue like abortion. So the special prosecutor

1:25:36

says, we can't charge him for the archive issues because he's not competent to

1:25:41

stand trial. So at what point moments like this have the accumulative effect where

1:25:46

we're not even in a race anymore. People just know this guy can't do

1:25:48

it. And does that day ever come? Do they replace him in the

1:25:54

Democrat National Convention or are they just going to keep him under wraps through November?

1:26:00

What do you think? I don't know. If they replace him at

1:26:03

maybe point of no return, it begs the big question, does Biden have

1:26:08

access to the nuclear codes. I don't think that he does because of his

1:26:13

medical condition. So that begs the next question. Can the United States of

1:26:16

America have a president that can't actually have access to the nuclear codes? And

1:26:23

that that's the scary thing. He actually can't operate the country. And that

1:26:30

of what you said, I mean, if they're going to replace him at

1:26:32

the convention, I don't think that that'll happen. I think that'll be too

1:26:36

dramatic and too chaotic. And when chaos happens, people run from your party.

1:26:45

That was one of the struggles of Trump and twenty twenty frankly, and so I think that this is it's a problem. He doesn't know what's going

1:26:54

on. And people can hate Donald Trump, but he knows what's going on

1:26:58

completely with it and everybody he is. Sean Carney, of course, President's

1:27:01

CEO of forty Days for Life, talking about Joe Biden making a sign of

1:27:05

a cross or in the pro choice rally in Florida yesterday. The other thing

1:27:10

we didn't bring up, Greg and I mentioned this earlier. There's video Biden

1:27:13

later on gave a speech. Right after the speech, he turned to shake

1:27:16

somebody's hand. There was nobody there. Yeah, it was a ghost handshake,

1:27:21

can you remember? And then he couldn't know which way to get off

1:27:25

the stage. This happens time and time and time again. We can literally

1:27:30

say this is probably years ago. So probably it wasn't this last Eastern it

1:27:33

was. It might not have been the one before. I remember the child

1:27:35

had to hold it like guide him because he didn't know where he was going.

1:27:39

Crazy. All right, more coming up wing Man Wednesday. All right,

1:27:49

in the a few minutes or even seconds, man, this guy by

1:27:54

fast today. You'll love this? You ready? Yeah? Apparently a new

1:27:58

study says that seniors don't look at me like that now think seventy five is

1:28:03

the new sixty five. I'll go with that. You go with that.

1:28:06

I'm fifty four. That's got to be at least forty four, probably five.

1:28:10

I'm not seventy five yet, but we're inching that way. But senior

1:28:14

new studies says a lot of people out there think seventy five is the new sixty five. I think people are aging differently now. I we're more active.

1:28:20

Yeah, I just I think about I think about my mother. She's

1:28:24

passed, but she was not really all that old. But she seemed it

1:28:28

and people aged chast you. Life was harder. Maybe just a reminder on

1:28:31

Saturday special edition of Wingman. Wednesday, I've at the State GLP Con.

1:28:35

You will not want to miss in Folks, Jos of Action join us Saturday

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of three heat up Children's Back. May God glad you and your family and

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it's a great country of hours. We'll talk to you tomorrow. It's for have a goodye