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Friday is here. We've got a lot to talk to you about today,

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and of course we want to hear from you. You know, all week,

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we've got a lot of people want to weigh in on all kinds of

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issues that we've been talking about. And we'll give you a chance to talk

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even more if you didn't get in on us this week coming up in the

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five o'clock hour, but this hour, you know, Joe Biden, you know, it's been funny as Joe Biden gave his shout at the Union address

1:06

just what a couple of weeks ago. Now since then, there has been

1:10

a lot of fact checking going on. One fact or one fact checking area

1:15

that took place was on Joe Biden's claim that major crimes in America are down.

1:23

That's what he claimed in his State of the Union or shout at the

1:26

Union address. Well, we're going to be talking when someone says and not

1:32

so fast the other issue, of course, And I don't know about you,

1:36

but this frustrates the daylights out of me when we have the President of

1:40

the United States going against everything the Supreme Court has told him and providing forgiveness

1:49

to people who took out loans student loans and campaign him now and those loans

1:53

are being paid with our money, not with their money, but with our

1:57

money. Now, the Supreme Court to old Joe Biden that he couldn't do

2:00

this under the Act that he was trying to do it to begin with.

2:04

So he's now looked at another way to do it. And we'll talk about

2:07

that and explain to you how he's getting around all of this. So that's

2:10

just the first hour of the show tonight, and we invite you to stay

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with us now and here's the number to call if you want to join in

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2:30

Every Friday, we like to start off the show on Friday with what we

2:35

call our Friday feel good story, and I've got one for you today.

2:38

I think many of you will recall a story that was out last week.

2:44

You may remember this story. It was what I think a very inspiring story

2:49

about a high school student in Indiana who battled his school for the right to

2:54

fly an American flag on the back of his pickup truck and he won.

2:58

Remember that story he won well. A very patriotic outfit in Cincinnati caught wind

3:06

of Cameron Blastic's dust up with East Central High School in Saint Leon and offered

3:10

to stand up the Stand Up Senior a free upgrade to his entire truck,

3:17

right in line with the heartfelt feelings about American GCI Digital Imaging applied a new

3:25

custom rap to his ride that features the stars and stripes and a red,

3:30

white and blue color scheme. It looks absolutely fantastic. As a matter of

3:36

fact, the owner of the company said, we did it because we are proud Americans that believe that Cameron did exactly what needs to be done standing up

3:45

for his freedoms. Now, remember the story. It all started when a

3:49

vice principal and a counselor told Cameron to remove the flag from his truck,

3:53

and he said, that's not going to happen. Why because he read the

3:59

student men and the school manual and there was nothing in those manuals that said

4:04

he could not do it. And of course, sooner or later the counselor

4:09

and the principal had to apologize and say, whoops, we're sorry, you

4:13

can keep it. And remember the day after he was disciplined, they're probably

4:15

half a dozen to a dozen other vehicles or trucks that showed up in the

4:18

school parking lot with their flags as well. I mean, it was a

4:21

great moment. And now Cameron is being rewarded for his patriotism with a newly

4:27

wrapped truck, very patriotic looking truck in red, white and blue stars and

4:31

stripes schemes. It's really really good lucking. So that's our Friday feel good

4:35

story. As you had home, you say, yeah, there is still

4:38

some goodness in America now these days, I think it is very hard to

4:44

find a poll with some good news for President Joe Biden and his Democrats,

4:47

right, I mean, it's harder than finding a politician in DC without their

4:51

hands in somebody's pockets. Now, a survey is finding that most Americans can

4:58

see clearly what the slew of indictments against former President Trump is about, an

5:02

issue that I think many believe is going to spell trouble for Joe Biden's chances

5:08

of winning elections. In the latest McLoughlin and Associates poll out today, fifty

5:15

six percent of those surveyed say they believe that Joe Biden wants to stop President

5:18

Trump from winning election by putting him in jail. More than half of Americans

5:26

believe Biden is trying to stop Donald Trump from winning the election by putting him

5:30

in jail. Republicans, of course, eighty six percent of them believe it.

5:36

Independent voters fifty percent. Half of independent voters think Joe Biden is staging

5:44

lawfare against the former president. But many Americans, many Democrats, were thirty

5:49

two percent of the Democrats believe that's exactly what Joe Biden is doing. So

5:54

this upcoming election suggests that these indictments are either they aren't going to do any

6:00

damage except maybe to Joe Biden. Now I want to play a couple of

6:02

audio sound bites that have popped up in the last couple hours. You may

6:05

have heard this one. Now, many of you know who Frank Lunz is.

6:09

He's a polster, did a lot of work for Fox News for some

6:13

reason. Heeds now over CNN and he talked about these latest indictments, but

6:17

more importantly, he talked about Letitia James. Now, Letitia James is the

6:23

Attorney general for the state of New York who has waged this case against Donald

6:27

Trump, and the clock is ticking on Trump. If he can't need a

6:30

deadline to come up by Monday with four and a half well with a half

6:34

billion dollars that his properties could could be taken over. Well, Frank Lutz

6:40

was on a panel in CNN last night and he had a warning for Letitia

6:44

James. Listen to this. If the New York Attorney General starts to take

6:48

his homes away, starts to seize his assets, it's all going to be

6:53

on camera. Pon this is going to sit there and scream about this.

6:56

This man cannot be elected. You're going to create the gratest victimhood of twenty

7:01

twenty four, and you're going to elect Donald Trump. And I say this

7:05

to the Attorney General right now, if you play politics on this. This

7:10

is what the secretaries of state did in Colorado and what they did in I

7:13

believe is main his numbers went up in both states. I don't understand.

7:19

I'm almost speechless in how pathetic the opposition to Trump has been and how completely

7:27

misguided, and this is a perfect example of it. I love that,

7:30

how pathetic the opposition, meaning the Democrats, have been in this And is

7:34

it going to make a difference. Well, the polls are indicating it will,

7:38

and we'll talk to you more about this coming up in the five o'clock

7:42

hour tonight. Now, Frank Lunz is not the only one saying this.

7:45

There are a lot of Democrats who are very concerned about what Letitia James is

7:48

doing in regard to season the possibility of seizing Donald Trump's property. Even a

7:54

former Obama fundraiser his name is Don Peeples. He has weighed in on the

7:59

looming deadline for the former president. He was on with Neil Cavoodo on Fox

8:03

News and The Business Report here's what he had to say about, Well,

8:07

Letitia James is about to do well. I think that's gone very far.

8:09

I think that she's made a mistake. I think this whole case against Trump,

8:13

it's a victim of case that should never have been brought. And had

8:18

it not been him, it never would have been brought because they've never brought

8:22

a case like this before against any other business or business person. And so

8:26

I think that that is an example of why Trump continues to rise in the

8:31

polls, because they are making him into a martyr. Boy, they sure

8:33

are making Donald Trump into a martyr, and he is loving every minute of

8:37

it. I can tell you that right down. I mean, Don Peeples

8:41

is a very close friend of Barack Obama's. He's a huge fundraiser for Barack

8:45

Obama. And even somebody like Don Peeples can see what is going on with

8:50

Letitia James and the Democratic efforts to keep Donald Trump out of the White House

8:54

after the twenty four election by using the judicial system and weird laws against him.

9:01

And as he pointed out, there are no victims in this crime that

9:03

Donald Trump is accused of committee no victims whatsoever. And this settlement of four

9:09

hundred and fifty four million dollars is so out of reach it has everybody shaking

9:13

their heads, not only on the Republican side, but the Democratic side as

9:18

well. Now there are some Democrats who are simply rejoicing at this. You

9:22

know, Letitia James wants to be the governor of New York. And if

9:26

she carries through in all of this, let me tell you what they're going

9:30

to be Democrats who are singing her praises from one end of Fifth Avenue to

9:33

the other. That's what they want to have happen to Donald Trump. And

9:37

right now she is being the only successful prosecutor at least at this point to

9:43

get Donald Trump. And that's exactly what the Democrats want, because a new

9:48

poll out today showed Donald Trump is now leading Joe Biden in every of the

9:52

seven swing states in the country. He's leading in every one of those states,

9:58

and they are worried. Iden went out on the campaign trail this week.

10:01

He was in Nevada, he was in Arizona, he was in Texas

10:05

raising money. Couldn't bother to go to the border. But they're nervous.

10:09

They were afraid. And Donald Trump biggest sympathy vote hanging out there. I

10:13

can just see it, folks. I tell you what. Monday, I

10:16

can see Letitia James walking up to Trump Tower putting a big old chain around

10:20

the front door with a big old lock, probably gold, and just smiling

10:24

and saying, look what we've done to the former president. All right,

10:28

when we come back, we'll talk about Joe Biden fact checking some of the

10:31

things he said during the shout at the Union address. That's coming up next

10:35

right here on the rod Our catchow. Great to be with you on this

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welcome back to the rod ar Chentrill. Let's talk about crime in America

11:09

right now on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n RS, live

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everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You know, there's been a lot of fact

11:18

checking taking place following the president's shout at the Union address. A couple of

11:22

weeks ago. One of the issues he raised. That's what he said during

11:24

his address. He said, last year the United States had one of the

11:28

lowest rates of all violent crime. Of all violent crimes in more than fifty

11:33

years, he said, murder, rape, aggravated assault, robbery all dropped

11:37

sharply, along with burglary, property crime, and theft. Is that true?

11:43

Well? Joining us on our Newsmaker line to shed some light on all

11:46

of this is Curry Myers. Curry is a criminologist, a law enforcement veteran.

11:50

Joining us on our Newsmaker line, Curry, how are you welcome back to the rod Arkad Show. Oh, always a pleasure to be on.

11:56

Thanks sir, Curry. You just heard me read that quote from Joe Biden

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during the shoutow of the Union address. Is that all true? Curry?

12:05

No, it's not. In fact, when he I wrote about it on

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my substack, doctor Currymeiers dot substack dot com after he delivered his response,

12:16

and I called it the yell at the Union address and especially the way he

12:20

behaved during and in particular how he talked to the Supreme Court. I thought,

12:26

I've never seen that ever in the history of my career, But I

12:31

don't know why they use such spurious information. Crime is not as high as

12:39

it was in the nineteen nineties. They're going off the what's called the Uniform

12:46

Crime Report of the UCR that's done by the FBI. They put it out

12:50

every year. The problem with the fbified Unified Crime Reports is that it's spurious

12:58

now because the last four years there about forty five percent of America's law enforcement

13:03

agencies, including large law enforcement agencies, have not been providing any data to

13:09

the FBI to even use for the UCRS. So when they make a claim

13:15

that's responding to that number one, the data is incorrect and the FBI,

13:22

if this would have occurred twenty five years ago, the FBI would have put

13:26

out information saying, based on the information we have at this amount. However,

13:33

due to the lack of input from forty five percent of the agencies,

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it's going to be much higher. So Number one, they weren't truthful in

13:43

how they preface the information out to the public. And so if you look

13:50

at the causal reasons why this has occurred, the first one is you look

13:54

at the National Crime Victimization Survey, which puts out every year as well,

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and in that National Crime Victimization Survey, they it's a forty four percent increase

14:05

in bydent crime from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two. This is a

14:11

remarkable increase. In fact, it's the largest increase in binment crime since two

14:15

two thousand and In the past, the NCVS and the ucrs were similar in

14:22

data, so they were kind of supporting each other. Now they're not similar

14:26

in data. So I factored in the crime report of the National Crime Victimization

14:33

Survey, and just by adding that weighted the crime rate goes from three hundred

14:39

and ninety eight, which is cited in the FBI, it goes to five

14:43

hundred and seventy three. And then I made a couple other assumptions that I'd

14:48

like to share with you as well that increases it even more. What other

14:52

assumptions did you make that, in fact does increase it even more. So

14:56

there's key assumptions that are important in research, and one of them, and

15:01

it's based on data, and one of them with law enforcement right now is

15:05

the amount of law enforcement officers that are on the street. There's been a

15:09

forty four percent increase in police officer retirements a year over year just in recent

15:16

time. That's never happened before. And in fact, many departments only can

15:20

fill about twenty percent of those, So that means twenty to twenty five percent

15:26

of agencies are not filling their ranks to that complete level. So if you

15:31

do the math there and all my math is located on my substack where people

15:35

can view it, that raises it to now six hundred and thirty per capita,

15:39

that's you know, per one hundred thousand. And to continue with another

15:43

key assumption, which is important is the open border policy that we have in

15:48

the United States. So it's conservatively estimated that about fifteen to twenty percent of

15:56

illegal aliens that are in the country now act are criminal illegal aliens. And

16:02

let me clarify, it's illegal to come into this country illegally. I mean

16:06

that in itself. I'm talking about people who have criminal histories or have known

16:11

to committed to have committed crime. Well, if you factored which is a

16:15

huge amount, so that's seventeen fifteen let's make conservatively make it seventeen percent.

16:22

That's two point four million people that have now committed crimes that often are not

16:27

reported. So if you factor in that it raises at seven hundred and fifteen.

16:33

And then the last important assumption is decriminalization. So we've had decriminalization in

16:41

many areas. Law enforcements no longer responding to many cases, many crimes,

16:48

some of them felonies. And the data shows that about twenty percent of crimes

16:52

go unreported due to criminalization. Based on the lack of arrest, that theoretically

17:00

would increase the crime rate to eight one hundred and fifty eight. If you

17:03

take that into account, that is the highest crime rate that has ever occurred

17:08

in the United States. It's well passed the early nineteen nineties when we had

17:12

the crack cocaine epidemic. That's one of the reasons it was so high back

17:15

then. And if Americans are sailing saying to themselves it feels unsafe, there

17:22

is a lot of crime going on. The data that I am proposing here

17:26

actually supports the fact that that is true. Yeah, I was going to

17:30

say, I mean, I doubt if there were many Americans who believe Joe

17:33

Biden in his State of the Union address when he said crime is down,

17:37

because they can just follow the news in many of their own local cities and

17:41

their all ow CO communities that crime is going out, yet they continue to

17:44

perpetuate this myth that violent crime is going down. Is that right, Curry?

17:48

That is right? And I think based on what they're doing with other

17:52

data that not just criminal justice, but others, I think they're trying to

17:56

give us a new norm, a new normal of this. It's okay,

18:00

this is the new norm. These are numbers. It's perfectly acceptable. And

18:06

don't pay attention to the man behind the curtains. Everything's fine. Just go

18:11

about your day and you know, and before you know it, you become

18:15

victimized. And I haven't even mentioned property crime. Property crime is now closer

18:21

to one hundred and twenty six billion, that's with a bo this year.

18:25

They're estimating it could go to one forty and next year. And again a

18:29

lot of a lot of this is associated with focused deterrence, or the lack

18:33

thereof. It takes focus deterrence. I could say the same thing on the

18:37

border. When Texas implemented Texas troopers and Texas National Guard people on the border

18:44

just recently, they actually had a reduction to the number of people trying to

18:48

cross the border in Texas. Where did they go? They went to Arizona

18:51

and California and across the border there Focus deterrence works. Curry is always great

18:56

information, great analysis. Thank you for joining us on the show today and

19:00

enjoy the weekend as well. Thank you very much. I'm all right joining

19:04

us on our newsmaker line. That's doctor Curry Myers. He's a criminalist and

19:08

a law enforcement veteran talking about crime in America. Why crime is really at

19:14

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us call right down, all right now. Joe Biden unveiled yet another round

20:55

this week of his steady drip of student debt. He announced yes to that

21:00

seventy eight thousand public sector workers will not have to repay nearly six billion dollars

21:07

in loans. How on earth is he getting away with this after the Supreme

21:11

Court said he can't do it? Well. Joining us on our Newsmaker line

21:15

to talk about that right now is Haston. Willis. Hasted is a reporter

21:18

the Washington Examiner. He's been taking a look at this, Haston, thanks

21:22

for joining us since after name all right, is there anything right now that

21:26

can be done to stop Joe Biden from doing this. Haston, Yeah,

21:29

you're exactly right. He's announcing a new round of long cancelation. Like every

21:33

few weeks he's doing this, But I'm guessing to an average person does seem

21:37

like it's almost every single day, because it's pretty consistent. It's a new round of a few thousand or a few billion dollars. But the reason he's

21:42

able to do this is because you're using a different legal justification. The original

21:48

plan, which was enormous, it was four hundred billion dollars at least forty

21:52

million people affected directly, rested on this two thousand and three bill called the

21:56

Heroes Act, which has written The idea was to protect at war veterans from

22:02

student loans if they went and served in a war. You had to have

22:04

a national emergency for that to work, and he said, well, there's

22:07

a national emergency, the COVID pandemic. The Supreme Court did not agree with

22:12

that. They struck it down last June. So what he's done since then

22:15

rest on a different legal authority. It's the Higher Education Act of nineteen sixty

22:19

five, which gives the Secretary of Education some leeway to modify student loans either

22:25

way. Long story short, what he's doing is trying to get the same

22:27

result by different means, still canceling people's debt on his own without the approval

22:33

of Congress. How far can he go with this? I mean, can

22:36

he continue to doing this for more and more people? Will he use this

22:40

law to somehow find more of justification for the loan forgiveness Haston, He definitely

22:45

will. He is a little bit restricted by this law. The amounts of

22:51

money, it's a lot. I mean, it's about one hundred and forty four billions so far, but again he tried to do The original plan was

22:56

going to be at least four hundred billion. I saw some estimates that it

23:00

would be up to a trillion dollars, So this is relatively small. And

23:03

because it's not resting on an emergency, he's more constrained. There's this whole

23:07

public comment and negotiation process they have to go through, so they are somewhat

23:12

constrained. But definitely you'll hear more of these announcements. So we finding new

23:18

ways to do this, and I think part of it is just kind of a public relations campaign keeping this in the headlines. Throughout this election year.

23:25

Is there anything the Supreme Court can do, Hasten to stop stop him from

23:30

doing this? They don't have any authority to stop him, do they.

23:33

Well, that's a great question. Yes. I mean, the Supreme Court,

23:37

of course could never do anything just on its own to stop anything the

23:41

president's doing. They would have to be, of course, a lawsuit they

23:44

reached them, which is what happened last year. There were I think seven different lawsuits against that big action. He took one of them obviously was successful

23:49

and got it struck down. To my knowledge, there are no major lawsuits

23:55

that have been filed against these latest rounds. I've heard rumors of people kind

23:57

of looking into and wanting to study the idea of doing it, but no

24:02

big time lawsuit has emerged trying to stop this or yet. I would imagine

24:07

that eventually you'll see one, but they haven't been any to date. So the Supreme Court, you know, they can't do anything without a lawsuit actually

24:11

reaching them first. And is that going to be the only way to stop

24:15

it? Really, Hasten is for someone like in the previous case, the

24:18

Hero's case, someone's going to have to step up and say this is not

24:22

fair. I'm going to challenge it, but we're looking that's going to take

24:25

what I mean, can that be rushed through the court or is that going

24:27

to take some time with a new challenge, Sure, it would take some

24:32

time. Again, that's if there's a challenge. Let's see, the Congress

24:34

could do it, but Biden would probably veto anything that they did. So

24:38

unless you have a veto proof majority in Congress, that's not going to stop

24:44

it because there's enough Democrats in Congress to prevent death from happening. So you

24:47

probably wouldn't need a lawsuit. Now, think about a lawsuit, is it wouldn't have to go all the way to the Supreme Court to have an estate.

24:52

You have a lower court that could rule a stay or an injunction that

24:56

could basically halt it temporarily until the Supreme Court. Here's that's what happened last

25:00

time. There was a halt on the move right after election day actually interesting

25:06

enough, and then it was paused until the Supreme Court struck it down.

25:08

So a lawsuit could if a lower court ruled on it. That's if we

25:14

ever see a lawsuit. Of course, the other way it could be stopped is if someone else wins the presidential election in November. Could I mean,

25:19

let's say Donald Trump wins in November and takes over in January, could he

25:25

in a way stop already what's been done by the Biden administration, or are

25:27

we looking at future forgiveness acts? Yeah, another good question. I don't

25:33

think he assuming these stuff, you know, goes through. I mean,

25:37

he's not gonna be able to like re you know, reinsert these debt payments

25:42

onto these people's bank account. So I think, you know, whatever is

25:45

done would be done. I do think if he took over and had the

25:48

Education Department under his control, he would definitely try to, you know,

25:52

take different steps. Certainly, I don't think he's see any more rounds of

25:55

forgiveness. If Probicans have ideas on things that they that they want to do,

25:59

it against this. They think we should be talking about lowering college costs,

26:03

lowering the cost of tuition, holding colleges accountable for degrees they are granted

26:07

that don't really benefit the person who got the degree, things like that that

26:11

he might try. I'm somewhat surprised, Hasten, and maybe you have a

26:15

better read on this than I would. Here in the West that there isn't

26:18

more of an outcry from conservatives, I mean a loud outcry from conservatives who

26:23

are saying, you cannot do this. How about the people who paid their

26:26

taxes to or paid their loans back. You cannot do this. This is

26:30

so unfair. I haven't heard that big of an outcry, have you.

26:34

No. I agree. I think there's been some. I mean, if

26:37

I reach out to somebody, you know, they'll give me a statement saying

26:40

there that they're upset about it. But it hasn't been anywhere near the volume as you had. Again with that bigger round that I keep talking about it

26:45

was proposed last year. I think maybe there's some fatigue I guess among conservatives

26:51

the other one. There was such a big fight over dat. Like I

26:53

said, there were seven lawsuits who went to the Supreme Court, all this

26:56

stuff, and then you know, the Supreme Court ruled in their favor.

26:59

Anything, Well, this is over with. Well Biden has just you know,

27:02

gone right back. He announced another under cancelation two weeks after that Supreme

27:06

Court case was handed down, and is kept doing it. So I think

27:08

maybe there's some fatigue setting in on the other side of the ent tired of

27:11

kind of fighting this battle. I've also some people suggest that maybe they're just

27:15

letting this go because then it will make people upset. I'm trying to fight

27:18

it. Letting it kind of influenced the election. I don't know if I

27:22

believe that, but I've heard people say that obviously this and attempt Many see

27:25

this as an attempt by the president of buy votes. He needs the young

27:27

vote. He thinks is we'll help him get the young vote. Is this

27:32

a key issue for young voters out there who are stressed by the amount of

27:36

debt they're carrying and seeing the president do this, there any public opinion polling

27:40

say go, mister president, We're all for you if you continued to do

27:42

this. Yes, I mean it's a big deal among people who hold debt,

27:47

which sends to be younger people. I think it's like forty forty four

27:51

million people who have student loans. That's a lot of people. And if they think they have a direct monetary benefit by having Biden an office, you

27:56

know that's going to be a big influence on them. The interesting thing is

28:00

he's running a danger of kind of splitting the baby on this because he's canceling

28:06

that for people right now still, but it's a lot less people. You've

28:10

only done it for about four million people so far, so a lot of people actually on the left are saying, hey, you're not being aggressive enough,

28:15

you're not doing enough to cancel student loans, and so there's still kind

28:19

of I guess, upset about it. So there's a risk here's actually on

28:22

the other side as well. Haston Willis. He is a reporter of the

28:26

Washington Examiner, talking about Joe Biden's continued efforts to provide loan forgiveness to students

28:32

all around the country. More coming up here on the rod Ar Ken Show. Hopefully we'll give you a chance to hear more from the Princes of Wales

28:37

about her battle with cancer. Coming up on the rod Ar Ketcho. They'll

28:45

ride our Kenchow on Utah's Talk Radio one h five nine. Can arrest live

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everywhere on the iHeartRadio app well. Some shocking news coming out of the royal

28:52

family in the UK today where Catherine, the Princess of Wales announced that she

28:57

has been undergoing cancer treatment. She made that announcement today, now I know,

29:02

Abby has been playing a number of audio soundbites from her announcement today but

29:04

I've got a little bit more that I don't want to share with you.

29:07

So here's how she made the announcement today about her battle with a cancer.

29:12

In January, I underwent major dominal surgery in London, and at the time

29:18

it was thought that my condition was non cancerous. The surgery was successful.

29:23

However, tests after the operation found cancer had been present. My medical team

29:30

therefore advised that I should undergo a course of preventative chemotherapy, and I'm now

29:34

in the early stages of that treatment. This of course came as a huge

29:40

shock, and William and I have been doing everything we can to process and

29:45

manage this privately for the sake of our young family. As you can imagine,

29:49

this has taken time. It has taken me time to recover for major

29:53

surgery in order to start my treatment, but most importantly, it has taken

29:59

us time to explain everything to George, Charlotte and Louis in a way that's

30:03

appropriate for them, and to reassure them that I'm going to be okay.

30:08

As I've said to them, I am well and getting stronger every day by

30:12

focusing on the things that will help me heal in my mind, body and

30:15

spirits. Having William by my side is a great source of comfort and reassurance

30:21

to as is the love of support and kindness that has been shown by so

30:26

many of you. It means so much to us both. And that's Cape

30:30

Middleton, the Princess of Wales announcing today a lot of speculation about what's going

30:34

on since she was hospitalized back in January, and today she came out and

30:38

announced that they did the surgery, the surgery was successful, but in doing

30:44

the research or in doing the surgery, they found some cancer there. And

30:48

she's now through the stages right now of preventative chemotherapy. What that all entails,

30:52

we don't know. They didn't expec She didn't explain that any further.

30:56

But there is an outpouring of concern not only in the UK, but across

31:00

the pond here in the United States, from a lot of people expressing their

31:03

concern about Kate Middleton, Princess of Wales, and her husband Charles or William,

31:10

and of course our young children as well. All Right, when we come back, lines are yours, We open the phones up for thanks.

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you nowadays. All right, this is an hour that we take every week

32:04

and really turn things over to you and let you weigh in. We've had

32:07

a lot of people call in this week on a number of topics. I

32:10

mean, on Monday we talked about an article that was that was written I

32:16

believe will be Yeah, we're gonna play his the interview that we did with

32:21

Stephen Helgeson a little bit later on in the show tonight replay that as part

32:24

of our Listen Back Friday segment. But he wrote a great article about the

32:29

moment that you liked Donald Trump or the moment that you didn't like Donald Trump.

32:34

A lot of people called in. They cited a number of reasons hearing

32:37

him speak maybe some of the policies, reading some of his books, you

32:42

know the fact that he is proud to be an American, He believes in

32:47

American unlike our current president, and you know, so there are a lot

32:52

of reasons for that. So a lot of people call in the next day.

32:55

We followed it up with, you know, this article that we saw

33:00

I can't remember where we saw it, may have been in the Desat News, but a poll showing the fear that people have about either if Joe Biden

33:09

gets into the White House or Donald Trump gets into the White House. The

33:13

fear for Biden is will his age allow him to carry out his four years

33:19

and will his mental acuity be sharp enough to be able to make some critical

33:22

decisions. The concerns about Trump, of course, are you know, the

33:28

legal entanglements that he's involved in right now. They're very concerned about that.

33:32

And because of the media and the efforts being made on the part of the

33:36

media, you know, they're trying to convince the American people that if Donald

33:39

Trump is put back into the White House, he'll be another Adolf Hitler.

33:44

Not going to happen, but that's what they're trying to convince the American people

33:47

and even the media is helping him out in doing this. We also talk

33:52

now. Greg and I had a great discussion on Wednesday. If you weren't listening, he was a little reluctant to get into this topic, but we

33:59

got into the topic of you know, women calling men's sports play by play

34:05

because Iray and I both have expressed we don't like it, you know,

34:08

we just don't think it's that good. You know, we had a lot

34:12

of calls coming on that. One one of the calls that I really liked,

34:16

because she agreed with me and not Greg primarily was that, you know,

34:22

men should have their place and women should have their place in certain things.

34:27

And she said, in this area of sports play by play for men's

34:30

sports as kind of a guy place. So let the men have their place,

34:35

and if women want to call women's sports, let them do it and

34:38

not not have a man do it. And boy did that creed a lot

34:43

of discussion. So we can talk about that. Wanted a lot of people

34:45

wanted to call him, We just didn't have enough time to get to him.

34:49

And yesterday, and I'm going to talk more about this now. The

34:52

fact that time is running out for Donald Trump on Monday, he needs to

34:59

come up with four four, one hundred and fifty four million dollars as a

35:04

result of a lawsuit filed against him. Now, there are some Democrats out

35:07

there who are warning Letitia James, she is the Attorney general for the state

35:13

of New York who is carrying out this vendetta against Donald Trump. Don't go

35:17

too far now. Earlier, as we started the show this afternoon, I

35:21

played an audio SoundBite from Frank Lunz. Frank is a polster. You just

35:25

to work for Fox News now doing some work for CNN. But I only

35:29

played a portion of it. I want if this all works, and fingers

35:32

are crossed that it will. I want to play the whole portion of this

35:36

so you can hear what he is saying, and then we'll get your reaction to it as well. But this is Frank Lunz, who was on CNN

35:44

last night talking about this effort to see some of Donald Trump's property. I

35:49

want you to remember this moment and don't forget it. If the New York

35:53

Attorney General starts to take his homes away, starts to seize his assets,

36:00

it's all going to be on camera. Pundon's going to sit there and scream

36:02

about this. This man cannot be elected. You're going to create the greatest

36:07

victimhood of twenty twenty four, and you're going to elect Donald Trump. If

36:13

they take his stuff. He's going to say that this is proof that the

36:16

federal government and the establishment, and the swamp in Washington, and all the

36:22

politicians across the country and the attorney's generals and all of this, that this

36:27

is a conspiracy to deny him the presidency. He's going to go up in

36:31

the polls, just like he went up every single time they indicted him.

36:37

The indictment. Let's not talk about whether it's justified or not, but it

36:40

will prove the things that he's saying on the campaign trail, and he will

36:45

go up and it may just elect him president. Do not forget that.

36:50

And I say this to the Attorney general right now, if you play politics

36:52

on this. This is what the secretaries of state did in Colorado and what

36:57

they did in I believe is main his numbers went up in both states.

37:02

I don't understand. I'm almost speechless in how pathetic the opposition to Trump has

37:09

been and how completely misguided. And this is a perfect example of it.

37:14

Frank Luntz on CNN last night. I think he laid it out pretty clearly,

37:17

didn't he. He basically saying, look, Letitia James, if you

37:22

do this, it only strengthened Donald Trump's argument that they are using law fair

37:29

to keep him from being in the White House. And this survey, and

37:32

I think, where did this survey go? I had this a moment ago.

37:35

Let me see if I get in my stack and stuff. A poll

37:37

shows now that the American people, most Americans see Democrat efforts to prosecute Trump

37:45

as a way to prevent him from getting into the White House. And even

37:51

I think the number is about thirty two percent of Democrats feel that Joe Biden

37:57

is wrong in allowing this to happen, or all these officials you know,

38:02

you know in Colorado and Maine, as Frank Lunch mentioned, you know,

38:07

doing this trying to keep him off the ballot, the cases against him in

38:09

New York, the cases against him in Florida, the cases against him in

38:13

Georgia. I mean, you know, he's had six of the felony charges

38:16

dropped against him in the case in Georgia, but he still faces what eighty

38:22

five felony counts against Donald Trump and the American people. Certainly his supporters out

38:28

there, and the American people are looking at this and saying, this is

38:31

a banana republic. This is not what this country is all about. But

38:37

you know, these people, because all their Democratic friends out there saying,

38:40

go get them, man, go get them, go get them, they

38:44

do not see what the American people are seeing. And the American people are

38:47

going, this is not what the country is all about. This is not

38:51

what our system is designed for. There were no victims in this case against

38:57

Donald Trump. As a matter of fact, the bank that cooperated with Donald

39:00

Trump didn't have a problem with this. You talk to people in real estate

39:05

development what Donald Trump did. This goes on all the time. Yet Letitia

39:09

James, who basically ran her campaign to be elected on a platform is you

39:15

get me, I'll get Trump. And now she's the star in the Democratic

39:21

Party and the Democrats and I heard this last night, and I think it

39:24

was MSNBC Rachel Maddow are now crowing about the fact that Donald Trump has broke

39:31

That's what they're claiming. Donald Trump has broke. He can't afford to pay

39:36

this four hundred and fifty four million dollar fine against him. It is outrageous

39:42

and I think most Americans know that, and I think many of you do

39:45

as well. And I don't know what you do about him. There are

39:47

a lot of people who are saying, is there a way we can help

39:51

the former president? You know, is there a fun being set up? I understand there are some funds around the country. They have raised money,

39:58

but nowhere near the four hundred and fifty four million dollars. So it's gonna

40:01

be a very very long weekend for Donald Trump. You know, him and

40:05

his attorneys, his financial advisors are trying to figure out exactly what they need

40:09

to do or how they're going to navigate this. And it has to be

40:13

paid before Donald Trump can even appeal this. That's the result of New York

40:17

state law. So you know, what does this all mean? Is Donald

40:22

Trump going to become a bigger hero, a bigger victim if his properties are

40:28

taken away from him on Monday? It could happen, all right, Mary,

40:31

your call. I want to get to your calls on this, on

40:34

anything else that we talked about this week. Eight eight eight five seven zero

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41:01

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41:05

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41:09

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41:14

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41:16

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41:28

go to the phones as we begin, Thank Rod, it's Friday. We begin in Draper tonight with Tyler. Tyler, how are you welcome to the

41:34

Rod or Cautcho and Thank Rod, It's Friday. I'm great Rod, first

41:37

time color. I love your show. I've been listening to you for years.

41:40

Thank you, Thank you, Tyler. What are your thoughts tonight?

41:45

So from what I've been reading, Rod, is it sounds like Trump's came

41:50

up with a half million. I don't know if you've heard about it,

41:53

but he posted on truth Social earlier today, and so that he came up

41:59

with it and he's going to put it in on Monday and I and go

42:04

through it just a pill. What's your thoughts on it? Well, I've

42:07

heard I heard something like that Tyler Hasney offered. Hasn't he made the truth

42:12

Social website or the account that he set up available for the public to invest

42:17

in, and that's where his money. Is that what I heard he was

42:22

doing something like that. I'm not sure exactly, but I think he was

42:24

doing something that like that to raise the money. Is that what you heard,

42:29

Tyler? Yeah, Well, as far as the social goes, I

42:32

know that he's there was like a he was gonna sell it with somebody else

42:37

for almost three billion dollars and he would make like three billion offer. But

42:43

that's not going to happen for like over a month. Oh yeah, he's not going to get those funds until later on. But from what I've heard

42:51

is he's came up with the money to put in the bond and so he

42:55

can appeal this. Wow, And it's so sickening to what's going on in

43:00

this country. It's just so stop. Oh. I tell you what, Tyler, I want to I want to pull my hair out. And I

43:05

haven't got that much left anymore, Tyler. But every time I every time

43:07

I see Letitia James smile and she puts that that awful smile on her face,

43:14

knowing that she may have Trump, and she succeeded what she wanted to

43:16

do. I just can't stand this. And I'm so surprised that the American

43:21

people, Tyler, are allowing this to happen. Yeah, it's an absolute

43:24

farce and Trump will be about twenty twenty four. I have no doubt.

43:30

All right, Tyler, thank you and thank you for listening and being a first time color The phones are always welcome to you. We invite you to

43:35

come on the show. We'll treat you fairly, honest. Let's go to Fred and Sandy tonight. Here. I thank Rod, it's Friday, Fred,

43:40

how are you? Thanks for joining us tonight. Hey, thanks thanks

43:45

for taking my call. So a question I have is, I mean,

43:50

you hear about this situation with Trump, you know on the radio, you

43:54

Becka, but a ton of times other people Sean Hannity, et cetera.

44:00

But what can our representatives, our Republican representatives, if they can go after

44:07

Hunter Biden in the House and hold a hearing, and this is unconstitutional in

44:15

the first place. These people are lawmakers. They're supposed to represent us,

44:21

They're supposed to represent everyone, including Trump. Why can't they bring this to

44:25

the House the Senate on the floor debate this, tell this, you know,

44:30

put this nonsense on the table, say it is unconstitutional. Where's our

44:36

representatives representing this? Now you are doing? Yeah, you make a very

44:39

good point, Now, I know, Fred, there had been talk.

44:42

I'm not sure where this is going to go, but there had been talk

44:45

of bringing Fannie Willis, the prosecutor there in Georgia, in front of the

44:49

House to explain what's going on with her case. But I haven't heard anything

44:52

about Letitia James. I'm not sure if they could do it or how they

44:57

could do it. I agree with you. I mean, first of all,

45:00

where are our Republican lawmakers, not only from Utah but around the country

45:04

speaking out against about what they see going on against Donald Trump. Where is

45:08

the support for Donald Trump? I don't know if it exists there. Have

45:12

you heard any lawmaker come out and really the immediately condemn what Letitia James is

45:19

doing. I haven't heard anybody do that. And I haven't heard anybody do

45:23

that either, which is astounding thing why they're not having a backgone and standing

45:29

up. In fact, another thing that I'm frustrated with on the shout of

45:34

the Union is, you know, before that happened, Burgis Owen was on

45:39

the air and talking to your colleague wingman Wednesday, But and he said he

45:46

was going to watch that from his living room on his couch. Well,

45:51

let me tell you, Burgis, I voted for you. I didn't vote

45:58

for you to set on your out a good point watch that from your living

46:05

room. I voted for you to stand up for rest Utah people and get

46:09

in there. And he makes stupid shout out comments shout back, yeah,

46:15

yeah, yeah, all right, Fred, appreciate your phone call. I've

46:19

got some other calls I want to get to. But I think you make

46:21

an interesting point. You know, there are you know this. I'm not

46:24

sure when this all started, but I know it's I know it occurred during

46:29

Trump's time in the White House. That were there were Democrats who first of

46:32

all, didn't show up at his inauguration, didn't show up at his State

46:37

of the Union addresses and now the Republicans, and this may have been going

46:40

on for quite some time, but first time I'm really fully aware of this.

46:45

Some did not show up for the State of the Union with Biden. Show up and don't be afraid to voice your opinion. You know, you

46:52

know, you know. There was some exchange during the Shout of the Union

46:58

this year a little bit. Marjorie Taylor Green is one of them, and

47:01

there were others who voiced their objections to what Joe Biden was saying. And

47:07

you don't do it respectfully, But don't be afraid to call this guy out.

47:10

Nobody is calling Joe Biden out on almost every issue. The media is

47:15

afraid to do that because if they do, they won't get invited to those

47:21

really swanky cocktail parties in Washington, DC. So they're treating Joe Biden with

47:27

kid gloves. This man is old, getting older each and every day.

47:31

He doesn't have all the cognitive abilities he needs to be President of the United

47:36

States, and his policies are driving America to the Borehouse. The latest one

47:40

coming to what was a yesterday about Americans forcing Americans to buy evs. Although

47:49

we don't want them. Someone wants to go buy an EV Hey, go

47:52

ahead, have you got the money to do it, Go ahead and do

47:54

it. Good luck finding and charging station. But I'm not going to hold

47:58

you back on that. That's a to you. I just do not want

48:01

to be forced to do it. And that's exactly That's exactly what this administration

48:07

is trying to do, not only forcing us to buy evs, the type

48:13

of fuel we have, what we drive, what we wear, what we

48:16

eat, where we live. That's what the Democrats and the progressive left are

48:22

doing to this country today. And that's why Joe Biden needs to be called

48:25

on the carpet and guess what decision day is coming up for him in just

48:30

about two hundred and twenty days. All right, your calls and comments,

48:34

mare, your calls and comments on this. Thank Rod, It's Friday.

48:37

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Pound two fifteen and say hey, Rob, and now I'll put you right

49:28

into the show as well. All right. We had a call earlier from

49:32

one of our listeners, I think it was one of our first time callers

49:36

who said, hey, I've heard Trump has a deal in the works that

49:38

will generate some cash for him. And The Hill is reporting tonight that shareholders

49:45

of the Digital World Acquisition Group DWAC have now approved a merger with Truth Social

49:53

that is a media startup owned by the former president, teen up its stock

49:58

market debut and potential three point five billion dollar windfall for Donald Trump. It's

50:05

according to a story in The Hill. I'm just reading this on its own

50:09

website today. The Hill is reporting that the long delayed merger between the blank

50:15

Check Company and Trump Media and Technology Group received a regulatory approval from the Securities

50:23

and Exchange Commission last month. Now, the story says that Trump stands to

50:29

make about three point five billion dollars from the deal, given the nearly seventy

50:34

nine million shares he would control in the newly merged company. The stock has

50:40

whipsod and value throughout Friday, after opening at roughly forty four dollars per share,

50:46

rising to as high as forty six dollars per share, and then falling

50:51

again to thirty eight dollars. It settled before closing today at forty one dollars

50:54

a share. The Hill is reporting that the potential windfall, of course,

51:00

comes as a former president struggles to secure four hundred sixty four million dollars bond

51:06

in his New York civil fraud case. Trump's attorneys they all admitted earlier this

51:10

week that it was impossible to secure the full appeal bond due to the lack

51:17

of cash on hand. I mean, a lot of very rich people in

51:22

this country don't have a lot of cash on hand. It's tied up in

51:25

the assets that they have. No. I want to read this a little

51:30

bit more. I'll read it to you as it's coming across. If Trump cannot secure the half billion dollar bond by Monday, he could risk the seizure

51:37

of his assets. The New York Attorney General's office has taken a first step

51:43

towards seizing Trump's golf resort and private estate known as Seven Springs, after finding

51:50

judgments in Westchester County no mention so far of Trump Tower. And there are

51:57

people who are saying, you know, people in the New York York real

52:00

estate owners, real estate developers in New York who are basically basically coming out

52:05

and saying, look, if you do this, Letitia James to Trump Tower.

52:09

You know, New York is already trying to recover from the struggles created

52:16

by the camp pandemic when it comes to office base and real estate, and

52:21

if you seize control of that from Trump, you're only making matters worse.

52:25

But she doesn't care. I mean, this is all part of a win

52:30

for the Democratic Party if in fact they can make Donald Trump brook. I

52:35

mean they've gone after him with all kinds of you know, insurrection claims,

52:40

claims of a Russian hoax, and now they've gone after him with law fair

52:47

going against them about classified documents, the RICO investigation in Georgia. But the

52:53

one area they're really hoping they can do is cripple him financially, cripple him

53:00

as much as they possibly can and that will tie him up and prevent him

53:07

from being re elected. Now, the Democrats also hope there are some fence

53:14

supporters of Donald Trump's out there who if, in fact, if Donald Trump

53:20

is convicted of a felony, that they will say, you know, we

53:23

can't have a felon in the White House, and they will not vote for

53:27

Donald Trump. They may not vote for Joe Biden either, But if they

53:31

don't vote for Trump in what could be a very very close election, then

53:37

guess what, you know, that increases the chances of Joe Biden. So

53:40

there are a lot of factors going on with this. But the word coming

53:44

out of Washington to IITE on the Trump deal is that shareholders of DWAC have

53:51

now approved a merger today with Truth Social. That's the media startup owned by

53:55

the former president, teeing up a stock market, Dave you and a potential

54:00

three point five billion dollar windfall for the former president. Who will keep your

54:07

eye on that for you? All right, more of your calls coming up. It is thanks Rod. It's Friday eight eight eight five seven o eight

54:12

zero one zero, or on your cell phone, I'll pound two fifteen say

54:15

hey Rod, More coming up. On Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,

54:19

can arrests Rod Friday. Hey, it's Friday. Number to call if

54:38

you want to be a part of Thanks rodis Friday eight eight eight five seven

54:42

zero eight zero one zero. It is the Rod ar Kent Show on Utah.

54:45

It's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arrest. Let's go back to

54:50

the phones to line and let's see let's get into lighton and talk with Steve

54:53

tonight here on Thank Rod. It's Friday, Steve. How are you?

54:55

Thanks for joining the show? Good right? How you doing? I'm doing

55:00

very well. Is Friday and headed into the weekend, Steve, I can't

55:04

complain. Yeah. I read an article on Fox News that there was a

55:09

federal judge in Illinois that said we cannot deny illegal immigrants their Second Amendment right,

55:15

Yeah, purchasing carry fire arm? Yep, yep, I saw the

55:19

same thing. Kind of nuts, isn't it, Steve. They have no

55:24

rights, they don't. They're in the country illegally, across the border.

55:31

You're a felon. Yep, You're absolutely right. So I'm if I'm sitting

55:37

in jail because of a gun charge, because I'm a fella and these guys

55:40

get them, might be calling Hutter and saying, Hey, how come these

55:44

guys get them? They're felons and I can't I'm a felon. You make

55:46

a very good point. Every criminal now will make that case, Steve,

55:51

Thank you for your phone Culton idea on think right is Friday. You know,

55:53

it's just kind of you know, I don't understand it. I've never

55:58

been a big fan of this, and I know there are people in the

56:00

state who are going to disagree with me on this. Why do we give

56:02

illegal driver or illegal aliens in this state a driver's license? You know,

56:08

I know, you know police want to be able to track them a little

56:12

bit better. You know, there are issues involving insurance. But I've never

56:15

understood that because my guess is that those driver permits or whatever they have,

56:22

I'm not sure what they look like. I imagine they look like a driver's

56:27

license that all of those who are here illegally have, but they're sometimes used

56:32

or abused, and that's what I don't understand why this state would go along

56:37

with something like a driver's license, privilege card, whatever the case may be.

56:42

I just don't get that eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero one

56:45

zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Oh. By

56:49

the way, there is a a new report tonight, and this is just

56:52

coming across the wire as well that former President Barack Obama has met privately with

56:59

Joe Biden on at least two occasions and continues to express concern that he could

57:05

lose the twenty twenty four election. A report in a Time magazine that is

57:10

coming out today claims that Obama met with Biden last June to deliver a warning

57:15

about his re election chances. Obama allegedly advised Biden become more aggressive and make

57:22

the upcoming presidential race a referendum on Donald Trump. Have add it, Joe

57:27

Biden. Apparently during the private lunch, Obama told Biden his campaign was unstable.

57:32

Should have told that to the president himself. Persuading unhappy voters would be

57:37

a challenge and defeating Trump would be more difficult than twenty twenty. According to

57:42

a story today in Time magazine, all right, back to the phones we

57:45

go. Let's go to Jesse, who's in West Jordan tonight here on the

57:47

Rodarcutchow. Jesse, how are you thanks for joining the show? Hello Jesse?

57:55

Yeah, go ahead, Jesse. Yes, I just wanted to say

58:00

women's sportscasters. So I really like Holli Row and think she does a great

58:08

job. I just was told other people don't think so, but I like

58:14

her, uh with Greg boulder Jack. So that's my opinion, all right,

58:21

all right, well, Jesse, let me thank you for your phone call here. You know, I don't mind Holly as a sideline reporter.

58:27

I don't. I think she does a great job for ESPN. She she

58:30

is really a success story, you know. And I've talked to Holly for

58:34

years, but I've I knew her in the past, and I think,

58:37

but but the you know, I don't know. You know, this is

58:42

really for Bowler and Thorough Bailey, and Thorough does most of the analysis anymore,

58:47

doesn't he Ray, I don't watch enough of the local jazz games for

58:51

them to analyze. And I'm not sure the value of bringing in a third

58:54

voice like Holly into the conversation. And sometimes, I to me, sometimes

59:00

quite often she's stating the obvious, and uh, you know, the an

59:06

analyst, in my opinion, should bring insight into a play or the play

59:12

of the game that you know, the regular listener or the regular viewer would

59:19

not see. I mean, I don't know whatever I happened to Romo and

59:22

his predicting of the plays, And I always thought he I always thought that

59:25

was kind of neat because many times, in my opinion, as he would

59:30

say, they're going to call this, or they're going to call this, uh, and then then to see them call that, you go, wow

59:36

that. You know, that's interesting to see how he looks at a game.

59:39

That's what I want. I think I want to see from an analyst

59:43

looking at a game from a real understanding of the game, maybe because you've

59:49

been a coach or because you've been a player and you look at the game

59:53

differently because you've been right in the thick of things where the average fan hasn't.

59:59

That, in my opinion, is what an analyst does. And I'm

1:00:01

not sure that's what Holly does. Like I said, I don't mind Holly

1:00:05

doing the side by side or the sideline stuff. I don't mind that at

1:00:07

all. But you know, I'm not sure what she adds to it.

1:00:12

So it's not that we don't like her. We just think the role is

1:00:15

a little bit different and maybe not suited for what she does on that broadcast.

1:00:19

But you know, when I look at an analyst, I want someone

1:00:22

who is going to bring something to the discussion about the play, about the

1:00:30

game itself that maybe the average fan doesn't understand because I have played the game

1:00:36

or coach the game. That's what I think most people are looking for for

1:00:38

an analyst about how a play worked out or the strategy being used, because

1:00:45

they understand it. They've been in the locker room, they've been in the practices, they've gone through everything that these teams are trying to do, and

1:00:52

when they can comment on that, that's where I think an analyst is very

1:00:55

good and iry and I I just you know, we talked about this.

1:01:00

Greg kind of disagrees with us on this, but when we talked about this

1:01:02

on Wednesday, you know, we just weren't comfortable with you know, I

1:01:07

you know, the women who do play by play. I don't know if

1:01:13

I just don't like it. Okay, call me a male Chauvin's pick, I don't care, but I just don't like it. I mean, and

1:01:19

what this caller said when we talked about it on Wednesday, men have their

1:01:22

place, women have their place. Let men have their place, Let women

1:01:27

have their place. When it comes to certain things, and one of them

1:01:30

she said, was a play by play sports, and that's what we were

1:01:34

saying. So not an attack on Holly. We're just saying we don't think

1:01:37

she fits in where she can better serve. I think she does a great

1:01:40

job on ESPN and the sideline sports, you know, that's that's one of

1:01:45

her strengths there, and she is very aggressive, she listens in and so

1:01:51

it's not a slam against Holly. If you took it that way, that's not the way we were taking a look at it. All right, more

1:01:55

coming up another hour, The Rod or kencho was on its way on this

1:01:59

front day afternoon. We've got a lot to talk about with you. That's

1:02:02

coming up on talk radio one oh five nine can arrests, including we're going

1:02:06

to be talking about twenty twenty four and a lot of people are saying,

1:02:10

we told you so many of the things that we predicted would happen happening now

1:02:15

that's coming out. Our number three is on this quay. All right,

1:02:42

one more hour to go on the Rod our Kits Show on this Thank Rod,

1:02:45

it's Friday. We'll be here with you right up until seven o'clock tonight.

1:02:47

Find out hour, and we've got another jam packed hour of interesting interviews

1:02:52

and topics that we'll be discussing as we talk with some of the top wilemakers

1:02:55

in the country today. Welcome back. If you want to be a part

1:02:59

of the program, as always, you're invited to give us a shout eight

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eight eight five seven eight zero one zero or on your cell phone dial pound

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two fifty and say hey, Rod, can you believe it? Ballet West

1:03:09

is ready to unveil their brand new twenty four to twenty five season of ballet

1:03:14

here in the state of Utah. They are a treasurer. I'm talking about Ballet West, and we'll talk with a member of Ballet West and find out

1:03:21

what the season looks like. If you enjoy ballet. Also, don't forget

1:03:24

our Listen Back Friday segments coming your way. At the bottom of the hour,

1:03:28

we're gonna have a conversation a couple of conversations that if you didn't hear

1:03:31

this week, I think you will enjoy hearing them. We're on talk with

1:03:35

a retired US diplomat and an author. He wrote a great story and we

1:03:38

took some of your calls on this earlier this week about the moment that you

1:03:43

liked Donald Trump. And Selena Zito will join iss. She is a political

1:03:46

journalist and I love talking with Selena because she travels the back roads of America

1:03:51

to find out what real Americans are thinking. She's going to talk about a

1:03:54

Biden's speech. It wasn't a big win for Joe Biden. So a lot

1:03:58

to get to this hour, but let's start off by talking about the twenty

1:04:00

twenty four election. My next guest, his name is Mark Hemingway, works

1:04:04

as the Federalist. Mark. Thanks for joining us tonight. Let's talk about

1:04:09

twenty twenty four. My sense is Mark, that this is turning into a

1:04:14

we told you so election, or maybe an election where we're saying we were

1:04:18

right about everything. Is that what you're seeing as we head into twenty twenty

1:04:21

four? Mark, Well, yeah, I mean I think that's exactly what's

1:04:25

happening right now. I mean, you see right now a lot of like

1:04:27

abject panic among Democrats over polls, and the polls in particular show a lot

1:04:31

of erosion of support among traditional Democratic minority constituencies and other things like that,

1:04:36

and they keep, you know, banging their head into a wall trying to

1:04:40

figure out how this is even happening, and it's it's just obvious. I

1:04:43

mean, people are noticing. I mean, you know, when you look

1:04:46

at the crime situation that Democrats are trying to deal with last week of like

1:04:49

last week, the Mayor of New York sent the National Guard into the subways.

1:04:54

Things are so bad in New York. They're trying to restore order that

1:04:56

way. You know, you know, Republicans have been warning about this since

1:05:00

twenty twenty. You know, you defund the police and you do all these

1:05:02

dumb things, and you let crime fester, and you get DA's the won't

1:05:06

prosecute anyone. You know, pretty soon you're not gonna be able to put

1:05:10

that genie back in the bottle. And that's exactly what's happened. But you

1:05:13

know, crime is just you know, one of the more acute examples,

1:05:15

you know, on everything you think, like COVID policy in retrospect. You

1:05:18

know again all of the default you know, right of center positions on COVID,

1:05:23

Like you know, the Republican governors that kept their states more open than

1:05:26

blue states suffered a lot less you know, economic damage. You know,

1:05:29

the school closures. I mean, I live in Virginia. The reason why

1:05:31

Virginia is not a particularly red state at all, But we've got a Republican

1:05:34

governor because people were so fed up with you know, how long the school

1:05:38

closures were in the state. I mean they were some of it was one of the worst COVID responses in the country in terms of school closures. So

1:05:43

there's all these issues or people are just they're just noticing. Oh, by

1:05:46

the way, you know, if we just followed the Republican pass, things

1:05:49

would have been better. Mark what you know, speaking of education, I

1:05:54

mean even the New York Times today and I was shocked by this. Looks

1:05:58

at a new study that says chilled and really suffered during COVID and they may

1:06:01

never be able to make this up, I mean talk about and that's what

1:06:05

we're all saying. Don't go after the children, right And the ironic thing

1:06:10

about this is that the places that have been hit most hard by this are

1:06:13

the democratic you know, areas in the big urban school districts. You know,

1:06:17

I lived a stone and stuff from Washington, d C. Where the

1:06:20

truancy rate for high school students in Washington, d C. Is forty seven

1:06:25

percent right now, I mean that's insane. Nearly half of all kids aren't

1:06:29

there on a given day, and it's all because of COVID. COVID just

1:06:31

gave everyone permission to not come to school again and then they don't know what

1:06:35

to do about it. But you know, but it was you know,

1:06:39

also terrible because you know, people knew exactly what happened. It wasn't that

1:06:43

we didn't know all along that students weren't susceptible to COVID and in fact,

1:06:46

they were the safest population during the whole thing. The reality was is that

1:06:49

you know, the Biden White House just turned over all their COVID policy and

1:06:53

schools to their their you know, the people in the team unions, the

1:06:58

bank called the Democratic Party, and so that they're suffering as a result.

1:07:01

And you know, again Democratic voters have noticed, oh, by the way,

1:07:05

you know, these people that I trusted on this were completely wrong and

1:07:09

only that where they were corrupt to boot. So yeah, schooling thing is

1:07:13

is just I mean that that is that is an issue. That's uh, that's going to have a real long lasting impact. Thank god. You know,

1:07:19

people have realized they can't trust public schools and and you know they're building

1:07:23

Christian and you know, Christian and private schools, you know by the dozen

1:07:28

rights now and homeschoolings through the roof. Yeah, what about issues like the

1:07:32

economy and foreign policy? Same situation, do you think, Mark Well,

1:07:38

foreign policies, I mean, it's just it's it's insane what's going on right

1:07:41

now. You know, Trump had the unusual distinction it was the first president

1:07:45

since Jimmy Carter to not get the US involved in a new foreign conflict.

1:07:50

In addition to the fact that they had that triumphant success of the Abraham Peace

1:07:55

Accords. Well, you know, right now we are you know, the

1:07:59

entire Middle East and you know, Eastern Europe are about to be engulfed in

1:08:02

War six. You know, American embassies around the globe have been evacuated since

1:08:08

Joe Biden became president. There was that, you know, during the State

1:08:12

of the Union of speech date they arrested a father of one of the thirteen

1:08:16

soldiers that were killed at the Afghan airport from that disastrous Afghan withdrawal. And

1:08:21

you know, currently the Husi terrorists are are in total control of global shipping

1:08:27

routes right now because you know, we can't you know, fight them off

1:08:30

in the Red Sea. Even though they're they're they're being sponsored by Iran,

1:08:33

which is a country that the Democratic Party has been, you know, basically

1:08:36

propping up for years, in spite of the fact that they're the world's biggest

1:08:40

state sponsor of terror. I mean, it's a complete and total disaster.

1:08:43

No one looked at the situation right now in foreign policing and says, oh,

1:08:45

I feel safer since Joe Biden president. I mean, it's it's it's

1:08:48

really, really terrible. And you know, the economy, look, I

1:08:51

don't know what to say. I mean, the economy has been the most

1:08:55

amazing thing. Like the commentariat on the economy, it's like I don't even

1:08:59

know what the sky is on these people's planet. They are constantly you know,

1:09:03

every week someone writes a column about why isn't Joe Biden getting credit for

1:09:06

an improving economy? Well, look, I mean the economy wasn't as bad

1:09:10

as when he took office, and be fair, he didn't get a great

1:09:13

situation coming out of COVID. But the reality is is that student tyces are

1:09:16

twenty plus percent higher when he became president. I mean, the mortgage rates

1:09:23

which were around two to three percent. Trump's entire presidency are now it's seven

1:09:26

plus percent. I mean, this is not rocket science. You know,

1:09:30

things are much worse than they were four years ago, or it should say

1:09:33

pre COVID, you know, under Trump and people again notice this and it's

1:09:38

not hard to notice this mark as we head into the election. Is Trump

1:09:43

and are Republicans taking advantage of all these mistakes or things that we told you?

1:09:46

So? Are they taking advantage of this by reminding the American voter,

1:09:50

Hey, we were right about everything. I mean, how do we take

1:09:55

advantage of that? Mark? Well, that is a really good question.

1:09:58

And I I think that a lot of this is happening in spite of the

1:10:01

Republican party efforts. I mean, you know, never underestimate the Republican parties,

1:10:06

you know, ability to lose winnable elections. I mean, I think

1:10:10

this is happening very much organically. People are you know, like I said,

1:10:13

are sort of noticing this. And you know, we have a situation here where, you know, the recent election two weeks ago, they had

1:10:19

elections in San Francisco where they kicked out a slate of progressive city council members

1:10:23

and they gave cops back powers that they had taken away and they voted to

1:10:28

test welfare recipients for drugs in San Francisco. I mean that's where we're at

1:10:34

right now. You know, there's a lot I think that could be done.

1:10:38

Like, for instance, immigration is the number one issue right now and

1:10:42

one thing I've kind of been pounding my head against the wall on that particular

1:10:45

issues. Well, there's a lot of attention on it. A lot of it is focused on crime and other things like that. There results of immigration

1:10:51

and you know, national security some extent. What I don't think that,

1:10:56

like say, the Republican Party is doing and they should be doing, is

1:10:58

they should be pointing out how migration plays a major role in you know,

1:11:02

taking jobs from mid citizens and driving down wages, which you know, in

1:11:06

the Republican Party has been realigning, you know, post Trump into a working

1:11:11

class coalition and you know, reminding working class voters that are probably with natural

1:11:15

constituency constituency right now that they're they're getting paid less because of this. Mass

1:11:18

immigration would be a really important thing and smart thing to do. But you're

1:11:23

not seeing anything like that. So like, I don't know what to tell

1:11:27

you on that. I don't see them necessarily taking advantage of it, but

1:11:29

they are benefiting from it. Mark Hemingway from the Federalist talking about we told

1:11:32

you so or we were right about everything as we head into the twenty twenty

1:11:38

four election. All right, Ballet West about to unveil their brand new season,

1:11:42

and we'll talk with an official with that Utah based company coming up right

1:11:45

here on the rod Ark Kent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine

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app. Make sure you downloaded today by going to our website at kanarrest dot

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com and you can get all the information you need right there. It was

1:12:15

truly a record breaking season for Ballet West last year as they celebrated their sixtieth

1:12:21

anniversary. Now they move into year sixty one with yet another exciting lineup of

1:12:27

great ballets that are there for you. If you enjoy ballet, give me

1:12:30

if you don't understand ballet. There's some great ballets coming and certainly they're ballets

1:12:34

that the kids will certainly enjoy. We had a chance to talk with the

1:12:39

artistic director of Ballet West about His name is Adam Sluke and he was in

1:12:44

studio with us earlier and I asked Adam about the upcoming season and why he's

1:12:47

so excited about it. Oh, I'm definitely excited about this one too.

1:12:50

I mean, I have to say, this is our sixty first season,

1:12:54

sixty one years of Ballet West. Wow. And just I think that we

1:12:58

really this season fans the gamut with something for everyone, something for adults,

1:13:02

something for kids, something for people who know nothing about ballet, and something

1:13:05

for people who love and love the ballet, so all of it put wrapped

1:13:10

into one. Well, I fall into that category of not knowing anything about

1:13:13

la ballet Ellen, Adam, I'll be real honest with you, but you

1:13:16

know, I see the performers and the athletic ability and the training and the

1:13:21

exercise they must do. It must be very demanding. It's an awful lot

1:13:25

of work on their part, but you know that's part of the art form

1:13:28

and that's something that they love. Every day, these dancers train for eight

1:13:30

hours a day, yeah, to get themselves ready for these performances. But

1:13:34

you know it's athletic, it's also art and I think that's what makes it

1:13:39

so fascinating and different from so many of the other performing arts. How do

1:13:43

they achieve the gracefulness that you have to have when you're performing ballet. How

1:13:47

do they achieve that at That's why I said they rehearse eight hours a day,

1:13:51

and they're rehearsing eight hours a day to make it look effortless. You

1:13:55

know, in sports you sometimes want to show that it's hard work to do

1:13:59

it. In ballet, it is as hard, if not harder, than

1:14:01

a lot of the other sports activities. But the whole plan, the whole

1:14:05

idea, is to make it look effortless, and that's what their works are

1:14:09

hard to do. There are a lot of young young people who start off

1:14:13

in ballet. They're interested in ballet. Is it important for people who want

1:14:16

to perform in ballet to start early? Well, you know, in a

1:14:20

lot of ways, it really is because your body has to grow into the

1:14:27

technique. The technique is really unique in terms of the way that it asks

1:14:30

the body to move and to ask the body to be shaped, and so

1:14:33

that has to come from a very young age. Your body has to tone

1:14:38

itself and define itself through the work. Yeah, Well, we've been talking

1:14:42

a lot about the performance. Let's talk about the performances. You said you've

1:14:45

got some exciting ones coming up outline a few of those for well, listen,

1:14:47

you said that you're someone who knows nothing about ballet. But I am

1:14:51

going to tell you that the way we are starting next season is perfect for

1:14:56

you and anyone who knows nothing about ballet. It is the ballet version of

1:15:00

Jeccyline Hyde, the Story of Jecculine Hyde. Now this one is not for

1:15:04

the kids, I will tell you that, but it is an exciting psychological

1:15:09

thriller that young adults and adults will really enjoy. And it's coming in October,

1:15:15

just in time for Halloween. So it's going to be a really special, spectacular performance and a piece of theater like none other. Now, if

1:15:23

you love ballet and you just love something beautiful and lyrical and musical, the

1:15:27

next program is going to be the one for you. And that's The Pictures

1:15:30

at an exhibition that shows off the athleticism of the dancers, but it also

1:15:33

shows off the beauty of great classic music, from Tchaikowsky's Serenad for Strings to

1:15:40

the Pictures Ad an exhibition by Mazorski, and to the work within the Golden

1:15:45

Hour by Broadway choreographer Christopher Wilden. How challenged you? I want to go

1:15:48

back to Jekolin? Yeah, sayes that interest me to take that story and

1:15:53

to transform it into a ballet. How big of a challenge is that,

1:15:57

Adam? Yeah. So the choreographer Valconipparoli is genius at doing that, and

1:16:00

it takes a lot of work the way he refines and defines the movement quality

1:16:05

to be able to tell the Robert Lewis Stevenson story, to make it coherent

1:16:11

for an audience, to understand what's going on, to make it exciting,

1:16:14

to make it interesting. And that's really what makes the art form so great,

1:16:17

is telling those stories to the movement of the body. Balley West has

1:16:20

such a rich history and Nutcracker has got to be in the upcoming season.

1:16:26

Is that right at all? Nutcracker? And it is our eightieth anniversary of

1:16:29

the Nutcracker. It's amazing, It is amazing, and it's also something that

1:16:31

we hear at utash in Utash should be very very proud of, and that

1:16:35

is that we have the very first full length version of The Nutcracker in America

1:16:42

and perhaps one of the longest in the world, longest running in the world.

1:16:45

So this is a gift that our founder, Wilhelm Christensen gave to Ballet

1:16:49

West. And there's a reason that's been running so long because it's good.

1:16:54

Why has it been running so long? What is it about the I mean,

1:16:57

the story is absolutely amazing. Yeah, but to keep it going as

1:17:00

long as you've been able to do, you know, I really think it

1:17:02

is because it is as fresh now as when it was created in nineteen forty

1:17:06

four. It is because it uses so many children, and so it's a

1:17:11

perfect entry way for children to see the ballet, for families to go and

1:17:15

show their children ballet, and it becomes a generational thing. I mean,

1:17:19

as far as our performers, we use seventy five kids in every performance,

1:17:24

really, and we do four different casts, so that's three hundred kids for

1:17:27

the entire run. They all have families, and you know what, their

1:17:30

kids grow up to be in the Nutcracker, and their grandkids sometimes grow up

1:17:34

to be in the Nutcracker. So it really becomes this wonderful generational thing.

1:17:38

And I think that that's been part of its enduring appeal that year after year

1:17:41

families love to bring their families to it and be part of their holiday tradition.

1:17:45

Adam, you mentioned you're going on the road again this year. Where

1:17:48

are you headed and why do you go outside of this the Salt Lake area?

1:17:51

Why is that important? Okay? Well, for us, we consider

1:17:55

ourselves one of the primary cultural ambassadors to the state of Utah. And so

1:18:00

what we do is we bring the greatness of classical ballet to the world and

1:18:04

show the world how great Utah is as a hub for the arts. So

1:18:10

we were just at the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in Washington, d

1:18:14

C. With the Nutcracker. Prior to that, we were in Chicago at

1:18:16

the Auditorium Theater in downtown Chicago, and we are going back to the Kennedy

1:18:21

Center in Washington, d C. In June again to present a completely different

1:18:25

program. So, yeah, we like to think of ourselves as the primary

1:18:29

cultural arts ambassadors to the state of Utah. Do the performers realize the tradition

1:18:33

and the pride that they carry with ballet West when they go to like the

1:18:36

Kennedy Center to perform, Do they realize the pride that they're carrying from Utah

1:18:42

to the nation's Captain? You bet. I mean that's why I use the

1:18:45

word ambassador, and I use that word with them too. They recognize that

1:18:48

not only are we as a company ambassadors, but they as individuals are ambassadors

1:18:54

for their art form and for the state. Adam, where can people find

1:18:57

out information? Where do you recommend they go by? It's easy. Go

1:19:00

to Balletwest dot org. That's Ballet West dot org and you can find out

1:19:04

all the information about the entire season, about the different ways you can subscribe,

1:19:10

because subscriptions is easy and it's the least expensive way to be able to

1:19:14

enjoy the performances, and tickets start as low as thirty dollars, so it

1:19:17

really does not break the bank for a family. Join nanc In Studio to

1:19:21

talk about the sixty first anniversary or year of Ballet West is Adam Sluk.

1:19:28

We've had a chance to talk to him. He's the artistic director there at

1:19:30

Ballet West. More coming up on the rod arcetcho Our Listen Back Friday segments

1:19:34

are coming your way. Next, When did you start liking Donald Trump?

1:19:39

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podcast as well. All Right, it's the time we do. We take

1:20:21

every week the final half hour of the show on Friday and call it our

1:20:25

Listen Back Friday Segments. You know, we talked to so many interesting people

1:20:28

and newsmakers about some of the big issues of the day here in this great

1:20:32

country of hours every week and we understand you can't catch everything. We hope

1:20:38

you do, but we understand you know, you have lives to lead as

1:20:41

well. So what we do on Friday is we take some of the more

1:20:43

interesting interviews and play them back as part of our Listen Back Friday segments,

1:20:47

and we hope you enjoy it. Now. One of the interviews that we

1:20:50

did and we got a lot of reaction on this interview, was an interview

1:20:55

that I did with Stefan Helgison. Stephan is a retired US diplomat and author

1:21:00

as well, and he wrote an article about the moment that you liked Donald

1:21:04

Trump, and we took a lot of your phone calls on this this past

1:21:08

week as well, and I want to play that interview back for you right

1:21:11

now. And as I began my interview with Stephan, I asked him,

1:21:13

first of all, why did he write this very interesting piece? Well,

1:21:16

I wanted to write something very basic and very simple and very straightforward. Rod.

1:21:23

I've read so many articles these days that nitpicked Donald Trump from either the

1:21:29

left or the right, and I want I'm from the Midwest, where we

1:21:31

think, we liked to say that we think clearly and without any filters,

1:21:38

and I wanted to write something that took me back to my childhood and how

1:21:44

I was brought up and why maybe my upbringing was so similar to everybody else's

1:21:49

that we have this duality of feeling about Donald Trump. On the one hand,

1:21:56

he's brash, he's bold, he's uncomfortable sometimes. On the other hand,

1:22:00

he's typically American. Let me ask you this, Stefan. I brought

1:22:04

up a story. We took phone calls the previous hour about your article,

1:22:10

and you know, and it kind of got a sense from people as to,

1:22:13

you know, when they started to like Donald Trump. And I brought up this story of an individual. I know we were talking back in twenty

1:22:19

sixteen about this election about, you know, the battle between Hillary Clinton and

1:22:24

Donald Trump, And I said, you know. He asked me, he

1:22:27

said, do you think Trump will win? And I said, I don't

1:22:29

know. He said, I think he will because of what he called closet

1:22:32

Trump voters, people who wouldn't publicly admit they like Trump, but they get

1:22:36

in that voting booth and they'll pull the lever for Donald Trump. Do closet

1:22:41

Trump voters still exist today in your opinion, Stefan, I think they do

1:22:45

rot, but I think there's a much smaller minority of them out there.

1:22:50

I think for the most part, everybody has an opinion now about Donald Trump,

1:22:57

and most people have been badgered and not out into the open by either

1:23:02

their family or friends to tell them how exactly they feel. And I don't

1:23:08

think anybody is hiding it anymore. You either form or against him. And

1:23:12

incidentally, I think that Trump is breaking a certain rule here. He's breaking

1:23:17

the likability rule. When when Trump was running against Hillary Clinton, it was

1:23:24

very easy to either like or dislike Hillary Clinton, and it was very apparent

1:23:29

who liked her and who didn't it. I think in Trump's case, you

1:23:32

like him and dislike him at the same time, and therefore I think he's

1:23:36

breaking one of the cardinal rules of politics. He you know, there are

1:23:41

people who say, you know, we like his policies, we like everything

1:23:45

about him, but we just wish he wouldn't say some of the things he

1:23:47

says, or be so brash or the name calling. But you are not

1:23:53

going to change Donald Trump. Donald Trump is who he is and he's not

1:23:57

changing. And that's why people voted for him. They voted for him because

1:24:01

they were tired of the elitist Washington politicians that talked out of both sides of

1:24:08

their mouth, and when they talked, what they said was basically a bunch

1:24:14

of lives. So I think that people these days are now looking at the

1:24:17

very distinct difference between what a leader is and what leadership is in America.

1:24:27

Good should never be the enemy of the perfect, and we've seen that in

1:24:30

our last few political elections. How we've seen fraud candidates come and flawed candidates

1:24:34

go. But in my view, Rod, I think that people are looking

1:24:40

at Donald Trump and they're seeing America for better or for worse, warts and

1:24:45

all. We're a country that's based on boldness and risk taking, and we're

1:24:51

based on salesmanship, and in salesmanship come exaggerations and hyperbole. But underneath it

1:24:59

all, you have to look at Donald Trump's record. And I wrote a

1:25:02

four hundred page book about this several years back, and so did many other

1:25:08

people. But you have to divorce yourself from emotion and look at management,

1:25:14

cold and simple. You know, I said this at the start of my

1:25:17

show today. I think Donald Trump knows how to play the media like a

1:25:21

fiddle. Case in point, the bloodbath comment over the weekend that he made.

1:25:26

He knows that that. I think he knows that that would set off

1:25:30

the media, and he loves watching them just go crazy. Would you agree,

1:25:33

Stefan Well, I certainly agree that he loves to watch the media go

1:25:39

crazy. But Rod, you know, I'm not really one hundred percent certain

1:25:45

that he does engage that part of his gray matter up there when it comes

1:25:48

to words like bloodbath, because I'm just not sure. I wish I were

1:25:55

it, but I'd have to be some sort of super psychoanalyst in order to

1:25:58

understand that. But we have to take him for what he is, and

1:26:01

you have to look at the record, and that's really basically what it comes

1:26:05

down to in this election. Do you want somebody that you can live with

1:26:10

in terms of management style and accept the boldness and brashness and misstatements and whatnot.

1:26:16

Or do you want somebody like Barack Obama who is probably one of the

1:26:19

best political orators ever but got nothing done lack of leadership. It's all about

1:26:26

leadership, isn't it. I mean, you've got a president right now who

1:26:29

has, in my opinion, no leadership skills whatsoever, and here have Donald

1:26:32

Trump. I consider him a leader, would you agree, Stefan? Definitely,

1:26:39

he is a leader, but he's the leader in his own particular,

1:26:43

unique way. Unfortunately, our current president is like his predecessor and that he

1:26:50

leads from behind. And we need a new definition of leadership if you're going

1:26:56

to re elect people like Joe Biden to office that don't understand what true leadership

1:27:00

means. You know, I lived twenty five years outside this country, twenty

1:27:04

of those years in Europe and four in the Far East. And I can

1:27:09

tell you of the friends that I talked to these days, they have been

1:27:13

in a sense brainwashed by our media in this country to believe that Donald Trump

1:27:18

is somehow a reincarnation of BL's above. They look at him, and they're

1:27:25

scared out of their wits. And I try to tell them when I talk

1:27:29

to him on the phone, and some are from Scandinavian, from Germany and

1:27:32

elsewhere, and I say, listen, we are not based on coalition governments

1:27:38

in this country. You've got a two party system, whether you like it

1:27:41

or not, and we've got leaders that represent those two halves of the country.

1:27:45

And unfortunately we're split right down the middle. Why is Europe so afraid

1:27:49

of Donald Trump? You said you lived outside the country, spent I would

1:27:53

imagine a considerable amount of time in Europe. Why are they so afraid of

1:27:57

Trump. Well, they're afraid of Trump because he has broken the mold.

1:28:01

For one thing, He's transgressed against that unwritten law of diplomacy. You know,

1:28:09

a definition of a diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday

1:28:13

but never her age. And I think that well thing could be true for

1:28:18

men for that matter. But in the diplomatic cores around the world, people

1:28:24

are used to other diplomats dancing around issues and not coming straight to the point.

1:28:30

When Trump was president and he told NATO basically, pay up, cough

1:28:34

up your two percent or whatever it was of your gross national product. He

1:28:40

frightened a lot of them because they've been getting a free ride for way too

1:28:43

long, and now the gloves came off during his administration anyway, and recently

1:28:48

he's made remarks to that also, So I think that they're afraid that they're

1:28:54

going to have to own up to their responsibilities and deal with someone who is

1:28:59

kind of unpredictable. Stephan, final question, what is it going to take,

1:29:03

in your opinion, for Donald Trump to get back in the White House.

1:29:06

What is it going to take this year for him to win this election.

1:29:11

It's going to take every single registered Republican voter getting off his duff,

1:29:17

out of his living room and out to the polling place, along with persuading,

1:29:26

shall I say, fence sitters that they need to vote for somebody who

1:29:30

can lead this country into the future instead of leading it back into the past.

1:29:36

And it's going to take winning about forty two thousand more votes in certain

1:29:42

key swing states in order for Donald Trump to win the necessary electoral votes.

1:29:46

As part of our Listen Back Friday segment, Stephan Helgison, a retired US

1:29:50

diplomat and author, about the moment that you liked Donald Trump more. Coming

1:29:55

up here on the Rotter Ketcho in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,

1:29:58

can arrest. Let's get an update again. Here's Abby. We are Utah's

1:30:14

Tuck Radio one oh five nine. Kay, and are asked the Rod Arcent

1:30:17

show with you on this Thank Rod. It's Friday. As we get ready

1:30:20

to head into the weekend. I hope you're planning some fun things that we

1:30:25

can. A lot going on this weekend, so make sure you take advantage

1:30:29

of it if you can, and get out and enjoy it all right. Earlier this week, we had a chance to talk with us Selena Zito.

1:30:35

Selena is a political journalist and she writes a column and carried by a number

1:30:40

of publications, The Washington Examiner, the New York Post, also a contributor

1:30:45

to town Hall. And I love talking with Selena because she doesn't travel the

1:30:48

major interstates in this country. She gets onto the back roads and she really

1:30:51

wants to talk to average Americans and find out what they're thinking. Well,

1:30:56

we spoke earlier this week Selena because she had an article about Joe in the

1:31:00

State of the Union address, or like I I like to call the shout

1:31:02

at the Union address and if it was a win for the Democrats. And

1:31:08

as I spoke with Selina, that's the first night question I asked her about

1:31:12

the voters she talked to. What did those voters have to say about the

1:31:15

president's State of the Union. So these voters were true swing voters. These

1:31:19

are the voters that journalists don't think exist because they they're not obsessed with politics

1:31:27

in the way that you and I are, right, and so their voting

1:31:31

habits have been sometimes a personal choice someone, sometimes because they liked a person.

1:31:39

So they've been like Bush, Obama, Clinton, They've been everywhere.

1:31:46

And uh, they're suburban voters. And I just most of them, the

1:31:51

majority of them had voted. They they're Republican, and in naturally old school

1:31:59

Republicans voted for Trump the first time. Most of them voted for Biden the

1:32:03

second time, and much of it had to do with Biden's department, and

1:32:09

they truly believed that Biden would fulfill the promise that he made of bringing the

1:32:15

country together and setting a new tone. And so there were and again,

1:32:19

they don't watch politics in the in the frequency that a lot of US junkies

1:32:24

do, and they're watching this and they were just stunned because their first reaction

1:32:32

was, well, why is he yelling at us? What are we being

1:32:39

punished? What did we do wrong? And and so and there were some

1:32:43

other interesting things that I gleaned from from talking to them afterwards. Now this

1:32:49

is a reminder. We were in Pennsylvania and the three largest potato chip manufacturers

1:32:57

in the country are low located about an hour to an hour and a half

1:33:02

from this Delaware County location. And so so to to insult sort of that

1:33:13

make potato chips by saying by talking about inflation in a way that just marginalizes

1:33:20

it down to shrink inflation sort of really made them angry. And they didn't

1:33:28

like. You know, a lot of them were small business owners, and

1:33:30

they didn't like the way that he minimalized inflation by talking about snickers bars and

1:33:38

potato chips because these are people when these but because these are people that have

1:33:44

to buy things to make things, and those cost a lot more. And

1:33:51

it's not the cost. It's not as flippant as not enough snicker bars or

1:33:58

not enough potatoes. It's much more serious and it impacts their bottom line.

1:34:04

And the other thing was they they really had an expectation that this is going

1:34:11

to be a moment to bring the country together, and they instead found something

1:34:15

that was very, very, very divisive. And and so now now,

1:34:24

in fairness, I don't think that this speech was meant for a swing voter.

1:34:32

The voters him before. I think this was meant for his base.

1:34:39

However, if you look at not one pole, not pull two pole,

1:34:44

three poles after the uh, the speech, it showed that it didn't hit

1:34:51

anyone, and it did not move the needle at all. In the fact

1:34:57

of one pole, it actually subtracted. And in politics, you all,

1:35:03

it's always about additions, never about subtraction. Selena, were they I watched

1:35:11

the speech and like you did, and I kept on saying, just stop

1:35:15

yelling at me, old man, I'm off your yard, so quit yelling

1:35:17

at me. How much were they put off by the yelling or the shouting

1:35:21

that it appeared Biden was doing to the American people? Extremely put off by

1:35:27

it, just really put off about it. Now, I don't know if

1:35:33

that means that they will vote for Trump. They have their own problems with

1:35:36

Trump. However, we have to be mindful of the fact. I think

1:35:42

that both of these men have to be mindful of the fact that under voting,

1:35:47

which means maybe you vote down palette, you vote for US senator,

1:35:51

you vote for Congress, you vote for your local state senator or state representative,

1:35:57

but you look at the ballot for president and I don't think so I

1:36:01

like either of you. And that is also that is also an underreported form

1:36:10

of populism. It is it is a really strong message that is being sent,

1:36:17

usually to the part of your home party, that we don't want what

1:36:24

you're doing anymore, We're done with you. And so I think that's going

1:36:30

to be an interesting component of this election. You know, in twenty sixteen

1:36:38

in Michigan, seventy thousand people undervoted. That is significant. They didn't vote

1:36:45

for Clinton or Trump, and they were mostly Clinton voters. And could the

1:36:53

same thing happened with the Biden voters this time? Do you feel, Selena,

1:36:57

is that a possibility? I do, I really do. That doesn't

1:37:00

mean it doesn't happen with some Republicans as well. But the Republican coalition,

1:37:05

as I wrote in my book with brad Shaw, The Great Revolt, the

1:37:11

Republican Coalition looks very different than it did in twenty twelve. And you have

1:37:15

a lot of middle class voters, and they're not just white, they're Hispanic

1:37:21

and they're black. And that coalition, that part of the coalition has had

1:37:29

a lot of addition. And I believe while both parties, both men need

1:37:35

a coalition to win, and one that draws different kinds of people into it

1:37:42

that you wouldn't think would stand shoulder to shoulder. However, are motivated for

1:37:47

a variety of different reasons. I think the most energetic and important voter in

1:37:55

this election that both of them are going to be going after is the middle

1:38:00

class voter, Black, white, Hispanic, whatever. Selena, one final

1:38:06

question for you. Joe Biden, of course, is in Nevada today trying

1:38:10

to drum up support for the from the Hispanic vote, which you indicated he

1:38:14

needs. As you travel the country, uh, Selena, in the back

1:38:16

roads of America, what do you hear from Hispanic voters and black voters.

1:38:21

Are they tired of the Democratic Party, tired of Joe Biden? Or do

1:38:26

you think they'll hang with them? Well, see, I've been covering the

1:38:30

Hispanic and black voter for years from watching the change and the most important thing

1:38:34

to understand about a Hispanic voter or a black voter is that they hate to

1:38:40

be thought of as a Hispanic voter or a black army. Yeah. They

1:38:44

then vote very similarly and shoulder to shoulder, often with their neighbors who are

1:38:50

all different colors, with their coworkers who are all different colors, with people

1:38:57

they sit in the pew with who are all different colors, and and and

1:39:02

and so and the one and the one party that looks at them as a

1:39:08

color as opposed to as a middle class voter. Are the Democrats the Democratic

1:39:14

Party problem? So Leno Zito political journalists. As part of our Listen Back

1:39:18

Friday segment right here on the rod Ar Kent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one

1:39:21

oh five nine, can r s Jesse Kelly Show coming your way following our

1:39:26

news update at the top of the hour. That does it for us this

1:39:29

week. As we say each and every night, head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family in this great, great country of

1:39:34

ours. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We'll be back Monday. O'clorse.