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Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

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Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

Rod Arquette Show: Young Females Often Suppress Conservative Values; Senate Candidate Carolyn Phippen on Abortion Issue

Thursday, 11th April 2024
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Two voices together to save Utah and the US. It's three compelling hours of

0:07

analysis to bates and laughter. Wing Man Wednesday with Runner Kent and Break Hughes

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now on Utass Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. Get a ready for

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the big Revival ever bat again in the vein. There's a little church on

0:38

e Mouse. It's about the blood of the list Inland. If your faith

0:48

they strong enough, Chun you mount, find the praise the Lord past me

0:54

a coming. Oh, we have got to get this show started today because

0:59

there is so much that we need to talk about today on wig Band Wednesday.

1:03

Oh welcome, ladies and gentlemen. If we waited five more minutes,

1:06

OR'd be five more stories breaking on the wire to actually cover in this one

1:11

limited show. Yeah, we have three hours of this today and we are

1:15

jam packed. There is so much greg to talk about today. There really

1:19

is. Like we we have our show in them, we have our little pre production meeting in the morning. Yeah, well it doesn't look anything like

1:23

it. Yeah, which you didn't participate in today, But that's fine.

1:26

That's fine. If you want to ignore some fine fine, particularly by text.

1:30

You have other priorities. I submitted many pithy and important articles. Sir,

1:36

Yeah, I know. Hey, guess what what my voice is back?

1:38

Yeah? You know, yeah, I finally came home. So I'm listening to your show yesterday. Go ahead and tell me what you told me.

1:42

Yeah. I walk in here, and with all the caring and concern

1:47

that a good friend would have, I said, what is up with your

1:49

voice? I mean, Mickey Mouse was hosting this show last yesterday. I

1:53

mean it was just hey, I just thought, you know, you overdid

1:57

it. I just pushed yourself. I squeaked till a bit, a little

2:00

bit. Yeah, every word today I sound like to me more No,

2:04

I think you sound more like you get the bury. Well, I've got

2:06

the barrier. It's here. It's a little bas deep enough to be buried.

2:09

But you know what, you you are so committed to this program.

2:12

I thought you pushed it after that surgery. You didn't. You came back

2:14

to early. But today I would concur that you sound better. Does the

2:17

boys come home? I think it's come back. That's good. Well,

2:21

Wednesday with Rod Arquette and it is Greg Hughes and we have got a lot

2:24

to do in three hours. We're here like we are every week. To

2:28

solve problems here in Utah and stays doing pretty well for the most I mean,

2:31

we've got to state we're doing to call them out, and then we'll

2:35

call them out in the state, the country, the world, all of

2:38

it. We kind of leave the world behind for a little bit because we

2:42

got so much here to deal with. It's true sometimes you know Israel doesn't

2:46

know how I mean, Israel Gaza. We got to sort that out. That's our job. That's a tough Ukraine and Russia, we got to work

2:51

there. That's a tough. One story today is panguage and the damn down

2:55

in pain. That's scary stuff. Now you have I have a personal experience

3:00

with damns breaking, yes, and so like I grew up in Pittsburgh where

3:02

there was the Jonestown Was it Jonestown? Uh? Damn that broke and it

3:08

wiped out a whole community, and you had an experience. I was pretty

3:14

scared. I was in Rexburg, Idaho, in June of nineteen seventy six.

3:16

Te Ton damn broke. I lost everything, in everything. I mean

3:21

I lost my car and I lost my car, I mean I lost everything. I heard you were standing on a roof. I was standing on a

3:25

roof in downtown Rexburg as the waters came through, and you had some company,

3:30

a woman I think it was married. Yeah, so she was pretty. So maybe that maybe that, you know, maybe that's a good thing.

3:35

Maybe they're fraz Maybe fee brought us together. It has a strange way.

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But let me tell you. Let me tell you in Penguins now,

3:42

didn't you. There's a story that they don't think it will breach, right,

3:45

no breaking, just right before we came on the show. Again, this is why this show is so timely, right before the show, right

3:50

before the show began, eight minutes exactly before. They do not believe it.

3:54

They don't believe a breach is likely at this point. They've made some

3:58

they've let they released water. They they've moved the ice away from the dam

4:01

where it was expanding and there was some problems. They don't think that a

4:04

breach is likely, but there has been damage. Yeah. Yeah, So

4:09

folks down there pay attention to what the officials are saying. Be prepared.

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You know, it does sound like it's maybe as dangerous as it could be,

4:15

but you just never know. I mean, water does what it wants

4:17

to do. Greg, There's nothing you can do about water. If it's

4:21

ready to go, it's going by the way. Go look at the Grand

4:24

Canyon and I'll tell you what water time. Okay, that start out as

4:27

a little creek. Yeah, okay, very very very good point. Well,

4:30

just a caution, word of caution. We're with you folks down there in panguage. Hang on, that's Great's country. He knows those people down

4:35

there, they like, that's liberty Land. That's liberty Land, as he

4:39

describes it. So pay attention to that. Inflation today, here we go

4:43

again, Greg, three point five percent today the market dropped like five hundred

4:47

points or the last time I checked is closed now. But Joe Biden's out

4:51

there saying we're winning. We're winning on inflation. And did you know that

4:56

as inflation continues to go up, which means interest rates aren't going to come

4:59

down time soon. Nope, there was a prediction today, Greg, they

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may go up again. I'll tell you I don't. Well, they aren't

5:04

slowing it down if inflation keeps going up. And remember, folks, we've

5:09

talked about this. It isn't it isn't a static number. Does it go

5:12

up or down. It's just adding every quarter. And you see that number

5:15

go up. It's like gaining weight. It's you get heavier and heavier that

5:17

that dollar shrinks more and more and more. So three and a half percent

5:21

in this last report here. It's devastating to the everyday people. But if

5:26

you're a Democrat, you've got you've got a new term for this, and

5:30

that is money dysmorphia. See, you're doing really, really well. You

5:33

just don't know it. You have money dysmorphia. You are confused, You've

5:38

just been online too much. You've you've seen you're just trying to compare yourself.

5:42

Folks, this is a great Bidenomics is working famously. You just don't

5:46

appreciate it because you have money dysmorphia. Yeah, well today, I don't

5:49

know about you. I filled up on Monday, four sixty in the gallon.

5:51

Yeah, I'm moreth of four bucks a gallon. And I'm telling you,

5:55

I got to break out my I did this Biden stickers for the gas

5:59

tank suits station much. I think I still have a few. I have

6:01

a few of those. All Right, We're gonna talk about that a little bit. Donald Trump and the abortion law. We'll talk to a candidate for

6:08

the US Senate here in the state of Utah. Carolyn Fippin is going to

6:11

join us later on in this show because she agreed with what Donald Trump stand

6:15

is on abortion. And today he came out and slammed that roling from the

6:17

Arizona Supreme Court on abortion, going back to what an eighteen sixty four law

6:23

which completely outlaws abortion, and he said, that's wrong, that's going too

6:26

far. So Carolyn Pippin, she's worked for Center Leae, she worked in

6:29

my office when I was speaking of the House. She's the only female in the race for Senate, and so she got some local attention on that issue.

6:34

And so I think, because we like to make sure that people are

6:39

quoted accurately or accurately reflected, it'll be important to get her take live on

6:44

the program in the next hour. Yeah, the House is killed the FISA bill, it's done. But I know you want to weigh in on this.

6:50

This is just crazy. Yeah, And folks like, let's not you

6:55

pop the quarks on the champagne bottles just yet, because this is a procedural

6:59

block. Take my word for it. These elitists, the big government,

7:04

the ones that have weaponized these agencies against us, they are not finished with

7:09

this issue, and they are going to try and argue with a straight face

7:12

that our lives depend on them passing this thing so they can without warrant surveil

7:16

us as Americans. I want to get into that because I think I am

7:20

the critical issue. They're trying to put another nail in the constitutional coffin greg

7:25

by doing this. Unfortunately, some brave Republicans today said, no, we're

7:29

doing it. I mean, we are a majority in the House. How is it the Democrats are the minority in the Senate and they can get whatever

7:33

they want because they can pull some Democrat Republicans over in the Senate to get

7:36

what they want, and then we're the majority in the House. Albeit slim.

7:41

Yeah, but you know all they have to do. They just pulled

7:43

the Democrats, just pull over Republicans to get what they want over there too.

7:46

The majority doesn't matter. It just matters whether you're a Democrat. Yeah,

7:48

that's true. We're on talk also very near and dear to our heart,

7:53

selection and integrity. We've got stories here in Utah and around the country.

7:56

We'll talk about that. And word today is the NHL maybe coming to

8:00

Salt Lake City. There's a story out today sources close. Say, we

8:05

could have a decision in a week if the Arizona Coyotes moved to Salt Lake

8:07

City. Yeah, they had some financial trouble down there. And I'm a

8:11

big hockey fan. Yeah, I am too. Pittsburgh are my team. Yeah, and I'm a Canadians fan really well yeah yeah, I grew up

8:18

not far from Montreal. Come on, they are the greatest franchise in the

8:22

NHL has ever known from Canada. From Canada. Wow, yeah, yeah,

8:24

Wow. This is an American show. I know it is an American

8:28

show, but you know, I like American teams, Rod, do you?

8:31

Yeah? Is there a team not in America that you like? You should be good? You were from Upper State, New York, you should

8:37

be Buffalo Sabers. No, they didn't come around till, you know,

8:39

a long, long time ago. So we got a lot to get to. But the story of the day, well, one of the stories of

8:43

the day, and we just outlined a lot of them today. Joe Biden,

8:48

let's see, three and a half years in office, seven point two

8:52

million people have come into this country illegally, and now he's saying, you

8:56

know, we're going to examine if I can do something to stop it.

8:58

It's just political passion. What an offense. Our listeners and the American people

9:05

are smarter than this. Joe, Yeah, yeah, Joe. Well, Joe was on one of the Spanish language stations last night. He did an

9:11

interview and he was asked about what he's going to do as president with an

9:16

executive order. Listen to this. Have you made a final decision on taking

9:20

executive order in terms of what do you want to do the border? That

9:24

includes the power to shut down the border, as it was suggested, Well,

9:28

it suggested that we're examining whether or not I have that power. I

9:31

would have that power under the legislation when the border has over five hundred thousand

9:37

people said five thousand people a day trying to cross the border because you can't

9:41

manage to slow it up. There's no guarantee that I have that power all

9:48

by myself without legislation, and some suggests that I should just go ahead and

9:54

try it, and if I get shut down by the court, I get

9:56

shut down by the court. But we're trying to work through them. Here's

10:01

the problem in this country today, Greg, and you and I talked about

10:03

this before. Will you quit examining things, will quit setting up commissions to

10:11

study things and just do it. And it's such a he's such a fraud.

10:15

Because the US Supreme Court said you can't pay off these student debts.

10:18

He does that anyway. I mean, he doesn't even have to wait for

10:22

the courts to rule, because he'll just do what he wants even after they've ruled. And and the fact is the Majorcius impeachment, which should absolutely happen

10:30

in the Senate and has only not happened in American history if the person that

10:33

was impeached was not in office or was dead, so that that that impeachment

10:37

hearing in the Senate ought to happen. Is not about what LAWJI didn't create

10:41

to stop this four million a year coming across illegally. It's you have failed

10:46

to enforce the laws on the books that would stop this. Today Biden has

10:50

that administration has all the laws that they need to stop that crisis. That

10:54

insanity. He just doesn't do it. Mike Le has said that time and time again and again. May Orchist before a House committee today he got grilled

11:01

again and guess what he finally admitted, Greg This will shock you. May

11:05

Ork has admitted we have a crisis. I do understand the challenges at the

11:07

border, and I certainly don't dance around them. As a matter of fact.

11:11

Would you call it a crisis, Yes, I wouldn't as a matter of fact type. I work every single day with the men and women in

11:16

the Department of Homeland Security just only strengthen the security of our southern border as

11:22

well as a northern border. He called it a crisis. He had to

11:26

be, he had to be put on the spot, but he called it

11:30

a crisis. Amazing. Yeah, he's he has been so resolute that it

11:35

is not and that they have been doing everything in their power and everything's fine here, folks, nothing to see here. Move along. Well, there's

11:41

a lot to you know why, Greg, Because the immigration issue, along

11:48

with the economy will not go away as a top issue for voters right now,

11:52

and the administration is doing nothing to address either one of them. Will you think four million people a year is the pace? How in the world

11:58

does any American, any anyone in a blue state, red state, big

12:03

city, small city, not feel the negative consequences. Everybody's feeling it,

12:07

and he's going to feel it because of this. He sure is all right, more coming up. We're all talking about conservative women coming out of the

12:13

closet. Really love that. We'll talk about that very interesting article that's coming

12:18

up here on Wingman Wednesday. All right, welcome back. It is a

12:31

beautiful Wednesday on the outside. Boy, I love this weapon, don't you.

12:35

I love this. I'm wearing my golf shirt, my Master's or green

12:41

golf shirt masters. No, it's not a bucket list of mind. Yeah,

12:46

mine too, Mine too. I'm driving in this morning, beautiful day.

12:50

I don't think we realize great sometimes, how beautiful our mountain. Yeah,

12:56

that's right, you know you. I drive it in this morning.

12:58

I've looked over their coverage, no captive, and it's just a beautiful day.

13:01

I had a nephew from Pittsburgh coming visit last week and he couldn't stop

13:07

raving about her mountains, and you do you take I start to not see

13:09

them as as well. But it is unbelievable to see earth that high up

13:13

in the sky. It's if you're not from here, you're not used to

13:18

seeing trees and dirt and rocks way way up there. People come here and

13:22

say, you just realize how beautiful an area you live in? And I

13:26

think sometimes we don't take advantage of it. Well, I'm looking at the

13:30

cars in front of me. They're like not going on the green because they're

13:33

looking at their phone. Yeah, we probably should be doing that as well. Pay attention. All right, a survey today. We hope to be

13:39

talking with the president of this organization here in just a minute, but a

13:41

survey has found that young women in this country today. I found this fascinating.

13:46

Greg hold conservative beliefs, but they hide them. You had a great

13:52

you had a great theory on this. Why are they hiding them? In

13:56

fact they are. So here's what I think. I don't I I would

14:00

honestly say that these issues and we'll get into it when we talk to the

14:03

author of this piece. But if you're talking about issues about what is it?

14:09

These were the percentages. Seventy nine percent of women think that stay at

14:13

home mom is an equal endeavor in life as being a professional. Seventy four

14:18

percent of those polled who are not identifying as Republicans I think that a child

14:22

should be able to go to the school of their choice. Seventy one percent

14:26

of posed gender surgeries for minors sixty eight planned to be married by the time

14:30

and have at least one child by the time they're thirty. They sixty four

14:33

percent think cultural hookups are harmful, and sixty two percent opposed men competing in

14:37

women's sports. Those are percentages Rod that I would say, not long ago,

14:43

would not have been conservative positions, but common sense, just a common

14:46

sense position. These weren't even positions not long ago. These were just facts.

14:52

You boys don't play girls sports. That isn't a political position, that's

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just the rules, common sense. We're not going to chemically cast eight kids.

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Yeah, that's not a conservative position. That's common sense. That's common

15:03

sense. I mean, every one of these, every one of these that

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are now identifying as conservative, it's because the Democrats and these elitists left us.

15:11

They have abandoned the everyday American and so now we're stuck. Not stuck,

15:16

but this is why they they're more conservative now, because the Democrats have

15:20

abandoned people at large. In my mind, yeah, they have. Well,

15:24

we've got our guest on the show now. Her name is Kimberlee Beg. She is president of the Claire Booth Loose Center for Conservative Women. They

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did this survey and Kimberly is joining us on our newsmaker line Kimberlee, Welcome

15:35

to Wingman Wednesday with Roder Kidd and Greg Hughes. Great to have you on.

15:39

Thanks for joining us, Kimberly, Thanks so much for having me on.

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Kimberly, let me ask you your number one takeaway from this study that

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your organization did. What is it? Our number one takeaway is that young

15:52

women are more conservative than the media would have us believe. This is despite

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consuming tons of leftist content on social media and throughout school, throughout their young

16:04

lives. So, Kimberly, you really lay out the case of how this

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happens. It starts through K through eight school. You know, maybe teachers

16:14

don't realize it, but built into our curriculum. And I think we're seeing this more and more now there is a left of center and a leftist agenda

16:19

going on higher education no better, and now sixty percent of college students or

16:23

women, and then women tend to study more disciplines that are dominated by the

16:29

left, like education. Women study psychology, things like that, and then

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the social media and how that influences people, and they are, by statistics,

16:37

are watching and observing getting their news from social media more than men by

16:41

a percentage. I guess that's a great case to make. But how are

16:45

they staving off all those variables you just described, which I think would would

16:49

end up making them liberal. How are they holding such conservative values in spite

16:56

of all of those things that you described that they're living through. Well,

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I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that, you know,

17:03

who women are just very naturally. You know, we are nurturers.

17:08

Our bodies are made to become mothers. It is just an innate part of

17:12

what it means to be a woman. It has always been a part of

17:17

the woman experience. It is just fascinating to know that throughout all of these

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years of education and the indoctrination and everything on social media, that young women

17:29

still want to have children and get married. You know, a whole sixty

17:33

eight percent of them actually want to be married with at least one child by

17:38

the time they are thirty. This is extraordinary because a young woman can go

17:44

through all years of elementary and high school education and college education without a single

17:52

mentor advising her to choose a career path that makes sense for family life,

17:56

or advising her to find a suitable husband, and that this is the path

18:03

to happiness, and yet women still want this. Why is that. I

18:07

think it's because innately, it is a part of the human heart, it

18:11

is a part of the human experience, and it's a part of what it

18:14

has always meant to be a woman, despite the left trying to redefine what

18:18

it is to be a woman today. Kimberly, before you came on the

18:22

show, I think Greg made a great observation and I hate to pat him

18:25

on the back, lets you know one, but he pointed out many of

18:29

these issues that are considered conservative today really are just common sense issues anymore,

18:36

but the media has tried to portray them as conservative issues. I mean,

18:40

for these women, many of these issues that you survey, aren't they just

18:42

common sense issues? They are And that is such a fantastic point. Let

18:48

me tell you why. Because only twenty percent of the women and our survey

18:52

self identified as conservative, thirty two percent of them self identified as liberal,

18:59

and twenty seven percent self identified as moderate, and yet they are identifying with

19:04

the principles that today we would understand to be conservative. I mean the fact

19:10

that women know that men cannot actually be women and that men cannot give birth.

19:15

This is a common sense issue that today we consider to be conservative.

19:21

So my question is the part that caught me off guard, Kimberly, is

19:25

because my mother was a single mother, and my wife is a very strong

19:29

willed person. My daughter, Sophie, my oldest, very strong willed as

19:32

well. In here, you make the argument that women kind of conceal these

19:36

core beliefs because they don't want to offend and they don't want to create conflict.

19:40

This memo has not been shared with my wife. This has not been shared with my daughter, Sophie. I have lots of women in my life

19:47

that are more than happy to share with me where they are on an issue.

19:49

But tell me about to explain this a little bit more about the where

19:53

women don't want to be confrontational and how that plays into where they fit in

19:59

the world by way of politics, policy, and culture. I suspect that

20:03

one of the reasons that your wife feels as confident, as uncomfortable as she

20:08

does sharing her conservative beliefs with others is because of you and because of the

20:14

people she surrounds herself with. So that is really even The bigger takeaway is

20:18

that women need to know that they have a support system. They need mentors,

20:23

and they need like minded peers because all the studies have always shown that

20:30

women feel more pressure to conform to a group than men do. And so

20:36

I think that this study confirms you know, all the other studies that have

20:41

found that because women, you know who are we as women, we value

20:44

our relationships, We value our family, our friends. All human beings are

20:48

a real relational but women especially, we feel this bond of friendship. We

20:55

don't generally like to offend people, we generally don't like to create conflent.

21:00

So I think that your observation about your wife is a very, very wise

21:06

one, and I think you might be the reason that she's as she is.

21:10

Well. I like you, Kimberly, You're so smart. May be on the show every day just to help Greg out and fuel his his growth

21:17

and strength. Kimberly, great chatting with you. Thanks for a few minutes of your time. Wonderful. Thanks so much for having me. Thanks,

21:23

keep up the good work that is Kimberly big. You know when I said

21:26

when we come back, should we take a few I'd like to take a

21:29

few of calls on this. I yes, you know about conservative women.

21:32

We're appealing to conservative women in our audience, young women, Are they afraid

21:36

to say something? Yes? I love that's right now? Hey, when

21:41

we when we put when we put these questions out to our listeners, we

21:44

get men and women that all participate in the calls. And I've not seen

21:47

any wilting violets. I've not heard any at least her last statement, her

21:51

last paragraph in here, I love it says, America's young women are far from lost. They are unrealized, reluctant to offend naturally conservative leaders of a

21:59

freer, more ruous America. They need to know they're not alone? Are

22:03

they alone? Are our listeners? Are they afraid to offend? Are they

22:06

ready to have they been reluctant to speak up? Eight yeah eight eight eight

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five seven eight zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero,

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or on our cell phone dial pound two fifty and simply say hey,

22:17

Rod And you know, as women in our audience, and we have more

22:21

than a lot of people, realize, right, we have conservative women. Are you reluctant to speak out because you're afraid to offend somebody? Or maybe

22:27

you have a daughter who holds your values, but she's afraid to say something

22:32

eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey Rod. We call it Wingman Wednesday,

22:45

three hours every Wednesday afternoon as part of the Run Our CATCHO Run Our

22:48

Cat along with citizen Greg Hughes. I think we've proved our point clearly.

22:53

You know we've women are afraid to offend. They have not called in.

22:56

They don't want to call it. The listeners do not want to sound like

23:00

us. No, they just don't want to. They don't want to.

23:03

They don't stick their neck out. They got things to do. They don't want to. They don't want to offend. But I will just I will

23:07

say what Kimberly pointed out that I will give you space. I am a

23:11

safe space to have a conservative opinion. So you're letting women call in,

23:15

Yes, I shouldn't. They shouldn't kill Just like Kimberly said that, my

23:19

wife's conservative and strong opinion because it's because because of me, because of you,

23:25

And I know she agrees with that. Yeah, yeah, I saw that she sent you when that come in was made. She does not Well.

23:32

Phones are open to you if you'd like to join in our conversation today

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eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven

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o eight zero one zero. Are on your cell phone dial pound two fifty

23:41

and say hey, Rod. We're following up with this conversation we had about

23:45

young women who have conservative beliefs but they hide them. One of the reasons

23:51

they don't like to offend people. That's it. It's offending people. Is

23:55

common sense offending people greg you know, I know it shouldn't be. And

23:59

but in Utah, I think this extends beyond gender. In the state of

24:03

Utah. I think that there's a higher value on being polite than honesty.

24:08

If if having an honest opinion is a difficult conversation, if that would be

24:12

if that would be a difficult conversation, there's a higher premium on being polite.

24:18

And I grew up in a and they perfect. I grew up in

24:23

where where brutal honesty with the word brutal is a virtue. You can be

24:29

brutally honest, and that is a virtue. And people would chuckle that you

24:33

were brutally honest. But but here so I'm telling you that is not considered

24:41

a virtue in Utah, at least by my observations, and it took me

24:44

literally decades to figure that out. Yeah, yeah, I thought i'd fit

24:47

in perfect I'm I'm the predominant faith. I'm just I'm like a hand in

24:51

glove Utah. Let's say you have a conversation. You want to share honesty

24:56

with somebody, but you're you're afraid it may effec But don't you share that

25:00

honesty with them? Can you do so without offending people? I tell you

25:04

I couldn't be comfortable in my skin not mentioning something, for fear that if

25:10

I didn't challenge a premise or a conversation, if I didn't share at least

25:14

the other side of the story, that they would assume that I agreed with

25:17

them when I know I don't. When I was a little kid, the

25:21

Mormon Pioneers would come up in our history class. When I was a kid, I don't know why, but I felt like morally obligated to raise my

25:26

hands say I'm one of these. And I remember one year the girl in

25:29

front of me, I was a bit of a class clown. I know, you can't imagine that. It's sarcastic in school. I was in middle

25:34

school and I said, you know, I'm one of those more. She

25:37

asked, are there any more these Mormons left? These pioneers? And I

25:40

tapped her on the shore and said, hey, I'm one. She said, it's a serious question. Greg, quit mocking me. It's a serious

25:45

question. She didn't believe me. She woun't believe me. All right,

25:48

we are getting now. We do have some women or willing to step up

25:52

and share their opinion. Let's go to the false. Let's talk with Wendy

25:55

in Utah County tonight here on Wingman Wednesday. Hi, Wendy, how are

25:57

you, gentlemen? Mama Bear no, grandma, Grandma Bear. Oh I

26:07

love it when you call to Greg A couple of years ago. Yes, I remember, yeah, Grandma Bear. Yeah, and it was like two

26:14

years ago. Anyway. I have seven children, four of them are daughters,

26:19

and along with myself, I have taught my daughters you stand up for

26:22

yourself no matter what. And two of them are very reluctant. That's the

26:27

forty three year old, okay, and the second one that's the forty year

26:32

old. But the twenty five year old, no, she will speak her

26:34

mind. And oh yeah, because Mama Bear taught him. And the I

26:41

was like, oh, how is she now, oh my god, thirty

26:45

seven Holy crap, that time goes by fast time. Yeah, I my

26:51

thirty seven year old, you better walk out because she learns from the best.

26:56

And I don't care if I offend anybody. I will stand up up

27:00

for what's right and I will say something. And that's what happened in McDonald's

27:04

in Iowa. A mother was yelling at her child really bad, and the

27:11

way she was yelling at her was way wrong. And I stepped up and

27:15

I said, excuse me, but you do not treat your child like that.

27:18

You do not call her dumb, do not call stupid. Yeah.

27:25

So, yeah, I have children that will stand up. All right,

27:27

Wendy, thank you. I'm not surprised that Mama Bear. Mama Bear stepped

27:30

up. Now we've bested more colors, we don't break. We want to

27:33

get back to these callers because people do have on the lines lines We want

27:37

to we want to hear from our listeners. The women in this audience,

27:41

I do not think are afraid. They aren't. So more on Wigman Wednesday

27:44

coming up. All right, welcome back to Wigman Wednesday here on Talk Radio

27:53

one oh five nine kN rs. Brought our kid along. With citizen Greg

27:56

Hughes, and we are taking your calls today on young women who hold conservative

28:02

values, own common sense values, to give more common sense values and conservative

28:06

values, but they tend to hide them. Yes, is that true?

28:11

Let's find out. Let's go to our callers. Let's go to Ogden and

28:14

talk to Zane here on Wingman Wednesday. Zaane, how are you welcome to

28:18

the show. I'm doing good, Rod, how are you? I'm doing

28:22

great? Thank you? Zaane? What are your thoughts on this? So?

28:25

I'm my fiance is twenty five, and she's to the point of where

28:30

politics are such so easily to offend that she doesn't even like talking about politics.

28:37

And she's currently going to school to become a therapist, but she brings

28:41

up points in her therapy classes to me where she's like, I don't really

28:45

feel like I should be this is how I should approach things like the whole

28:49

gender identity disorder where you yeah, yeah that. So they're in her classes,

28:57

they're trying to push like, oh, you to see if this is

29:00

an issue, and she's like, no, I feel like that's such a

29:03

rare issue that for to induce the child into becoming a different gender is just

29:10

wrong. I don't agree with it, but she's afraid to talk about those

29:15

views openly. And the only reason why she's comfortable with it with me is

29:18

she knows my opinion on that is very strong. SAME's a living example of

29:23

that of that of the story and the article. That's when we go to

29:27

education, and shouldn't we be able to express our opinions and debate them And

29:33

I'll be afraid to bring it up greg well, especially in higher education. And by the way, like at least ten percent of the women identify getting

29:40

a worse score or having being harmed in their studies as one of the reasons

29:44

belief belief. Tanya is an orum tonight here on Wingman Wednesday. Tanya,

29:48

how are you? Thanks for joining us. I'm good, Thanks. I

29:53

do have a thought about this is just that I feel like, especially in

29:57

kind of I wasn't born and here, but I've lived here for like twenty

30:00

five years, so I've raised my family here, and I and my neighbors,

30:04

my friends. I feel in the culture, the LDS culture, which

30:07

is a huge part obviously in Utah. I mean, we're just taught to

30:11

love one another, We're taught to be sweet, and friendly and kind,

30:15

and that just and I think so much is when you start to talk to

30:18

somebody about politics, which is so divisive, then immediately if someone is on

30:23

the opposite side and goes at you, then we're all like, oh,

30:26

oh, okay, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'll be quiet.

30:29

I think most of the voices on the left are are the liberal voices

30:33

are. There's just I mean, there's bad people, maybe on both sides,

30:36

but I just feel like they're vicious. And it's like, I have

30:40

five kids and two jobs, and trying to talk to somebody almost you know,

30:45

or talk to them about politics is almost like having a third jobs.

30:47

So I can't even engage unless I'm ready to sit there and just get on

30:49

my phone, and the whole day goes by it and I'm like, I've

30:52

had one conversation going down a rabbit hole with somebody who I think is you

30:56

know, off their rocker and can't see reason, and I'm like, I

31:00

can't, I can't do this, I can't do this. I gotta work.

31:02

You do have to work. And I think I think I think she's

31:04

right. The prevailing religion here in this state, you know, be nice

31:08

to each other. It is why can't you be nice and honest at the

31:11

same time. I do. I think there is something about the passive aggressiveness,

31:17

specifically in the in Utah culture. And I look, I understand,

31:22

you know, being polite is important, but I think being honest is as

31:26

well. Let's get another called Sharon is Morger County tonight here on wing Man

31:30

Wednesday. Hi Sharon, how are you hey? I'm doing well. I

31:34

just wanted to say that, you know, like the previous lady said,

31:40

when you express your feelings, like on Facebook or any other social media,

31:48

people attack you that don't even know you. I mean, strangers all of

31:52

a sudden, you know, are attacking you. And so it's a little

31:56

bit hard that way. When I'm person to person, I'm fine with defending

32:00

my belief, but when it's there and there are just several people on you,

32:07

it's really hard. Sharon, You're so right, and how come it

32:09

never works both ways? I mean, we got a call a listener that

32:14

that that messaged in and said, there's that liberal women are so strident and

32:16

mean and they will attack and attack here even here in Utah, and conservative

32:22

women don't want to be in that cat in that camp. And and to

32:25

the point that Sharon has made, if you bring out an opinion that would

32:30

be considered today not common sense but right conservative, and you're going to get

32:35

attacked all day on it, then what's the point. But how come the other left can be the attacker and there's nothing unseemly or untoward about that.

32:42

I've got an idea. I think this show becomes should become a sanctuary radio

32:47

show. This is a sanctuary radio station for conservative and common sense thought.

32:52

We may challenge you, we may ask them honest questions about you, but

32:54

it's sanctuary. It's safe for you. It's safe to have common sense.

32:59

And this program just say you know, absolutely yeah, and that's an interesting

33:02

thought. And you're right. I mean, you know, if you go

33:06

on and I don't go on social media a lot because you do get attacked.

33:08

I know you love it. You chew it up. It's positive social

33:12

proofing. Right, you're making a difference. It makes a difference. But

33:15

it's gonna be interesting. Good good colts, good comments. All right,

33:19

thank you, abortion. We'll talk to a member of once be a US

33:23

senatorout this issue. Donald Trump layd in on the Arizona ruling today as well,

33:28

and we'll share that with you. Coming up two voices together to save

33:34

Utah and the US. It's three compelling hours of analysis, debates and laughter.

33:40

Wing Man Wednesday with run Our Kent and Drake Hughes Now on utass Talk

33:46

Radio one oh five nine KNRS. All right, check you with my Wingman.

34:09

I'm all said to go. You ready to launch, Let's go.

34:12

We've got your back. You know, we're on the We're on the deck

34:15

of the aircraft carrier. You're the pilot. We're nag off about to shoot

34:19

off. I actually think they called the guy in the end of the shooter.

34:22

Really. I think that's what they do on the aircraft carriers. He's

34:25

the one who gives them that you go. He's called the shooter. I

34:30

think that's what they're called, isn't that. I'm the guy said, I'm

34:32

goose, I'm behind you, I'm the navigator. I'm actually telling you where

34:36

to go, what you do every minute, every day. Rights, it's

34:42

meant to be. All right, Welcome back. It is Wingman Wednesday here

34:45

on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n R as live everywhere on

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the iHeartRadio app brought our cat along with he's the wingman. I am,

34:52

yeah, I'm Maverick. We're flying today. Well, guess what the issue

34:58

of the week so far has been. There are a lot of issues that

35:00

we've talked about today, but the media, of course and the Democrats are

35:02

all jumping on top of Donald Trump and his announcement on what was it Monday

35:07

that he did not support a national ban on abortion, but he did support

35:12

states having a right to decide what to do. Yes, And I concur

35:16

with you in that position, and I think he's correct. I said,

35:20

that's the Supreme Court. And then yesterday you have the Arizona Supreme Court issuing

35:23

a ruling that a is it eighteen sixty four ban, almost a complete ban

35:29

on abortion in Arizona is still the law of the land, and people are

35:31

going crazy about it today. They are. And there's all I mean,

35:35

this is where conservative Democrats set these things up perfectly. They if they can

35:38

create circular firing squads amongst Republicans and people that are right up center, please

35:44

do because they don't have a thing to stand on. So if they can get Republicans fighting amongst themselves, that's their best case scenario. And this issue

35:51

does bring that out and people. You see a lot of pro life advocates

35:53

that are excited about the Arizona ruling. They think that's the appropriate way to

35:58

do it. You have a lot of Republicans said, do not think that

36:00

that's okay, that's a problem. I think Donald Trump shares that that that

36:06

is too prohibitive. Yeah, you have Lindsay Graham who wants a federal fifteen

36:09

week ban. Why you'd never want to get in that federal game. Leave

36:14

it to the states, the basis for Robie Wade being thrown out. Well.

36:19

Joining us on our Newsmaker line now is Carolyn Fippen Karen Carolyn. Of

36:22

course, as a candidate for the US sentence here in the state of Utah,

36:24

she has an opinion on this is weighed in on this. Carolyn.

36:28

How are you welcome to Wingman Wednesday with Rod and Greg. Hey, Yeah,

36:32

I'm doing great. Thanks for having me tonight. How are you both?

36:36

We are doing well, Carolyn. Carolyn, your reaction to the events

36:38

of the last two or three days with the president's come in or the former

36:42

president's come in on abortion, that ruling coming out of Arizona yesterday, what's

36:45

your reaction to all of this, Carolyn, Yeah, no. I am

36:50

thrilled that Donald Trump came out and said what he said on Monday, because

36:53

do you remember maybe a month or so ago, he was kind of playing

36:58

with that idea of fifteen week national ban. That would not be good for

37:04

a whole host of reasons. I'd love to talk about them, but the

37:06

fact of the matter is Utah has a great law in place. It was

37:09

put in place before the overturning of ROVERSUS weight. It's being held up in

37:14

the courts, but we should absolutely allow the states to make these decisions,

37:19

and for a lot of reasons, that is the best way to move forward

37:22

on this issue. Tough question, but one that's relevant right now. Carolyn.

37:27

You're the only female Senate a candidate, and so you've gotten some attention

37:30

locally on this issue of abortion because it's one that Democrats want to really make

37:34

one of their key issues. Your voice in this debate, I think is

37:37

pretty important. The Arizona ruling where all abortions that the law, this older

37:44

law applies and so it does have the effect, i'm told, prohibiting on

37:49

abortion in any case. How do you feel about that? Here's the thing

37:53

for me. But we are at a place and I'll tell you. I'm

37:59

going to walk you through some of how I got where I am on this issue because a lot of national pro life organizations were actually in support of this

38:07

fifteen week band. Mike Lee is not, and a number of the pro

38:10

life groups locally here in Utah are not, And so I spent a lot

38:15

of time last fall. I spent a lot of time talking to Michaeley and

38:20

some of these groups and saying, walk me through why you're where you are.

38:22

When we have a constitutional provision that the federal government should has the role

38:29

of the protection of life right and we have to face the fact that decades

38:34

of roversus wade have had an impact on our culture, and I care about

38:40

us moving toward a more constitutional place and a place that actually saves more babies

38:45

lives and does the right thing morally and societally. And the way to accomplish

38:52

that, I'm fully convinced is to you pull too hard, we will end

38:58

up with I say, abortion through birth federally, and I think even at

39:02

the state level, in a state like Arizona, that's a risky play.

39:07

I think that we want to ensure that we're doing it in a way where

39:12

the people being brought along and the people are supportive of the laws that are

39:15

paths that are moving in the right direction. Otherwise, like I said,

39:20

we're going to end up with such a backlash that we lose control. And

39:23

the Democrats would love nothing more than abortion till birth, and I don't think

39:29

any of us are on board with that. No, I don't think Carolyn. Can we, even though, find compromise on this such a divisive issue,

39:36

and you know for women in particular, this is a very difficult issue

39:40

for women. I mean, can you find any compromise? Is there any

39:44

compromised path out there on this issue for Republicans? And well, we know

39:47

what the Democrats want, you know, like you just described it, Is

39:51

there a compromise that people can live with or agree with. I think the

39:57

compromise is exactly what we have right now in the state of Utah, and

40:00

that is there is abortion is not legal except for if the mother's life is

40:08

at risk, rape or incest. And the fact of the matter is,

40:12

I've talked to medical professionals and very few people tell me that there are ever

40:16

any times that you actually have to murder a baby in the womb, in

40:21

order to preserve the life of the mother, you may have to deliver early.

40:24

That's far different from what an abortion is. And so I think that

40:30

when you provide these exceptions for those who are in a really difficult, conflicted

40:36

personal situation, I think you've done what you need to do. What we

40:40

have currently is, after again decades of row versus ways, we have a

40:45

lot of people who are using abortion as birth control, and we have to

40:50

get back to a place where our nation culturally recognizes that this is life and

40:57

we must have a respect for life, because the more we tear down that

41:00

barrier where we are accepting the meaninglessness of life, it just proceeds to greater

41:07

and greater evils. I mean, take a look at what's happening in I

41:12

think the UK as well as in Canada for sure, where right you have

41:15

a mental health difficulty or autism, you can just come in and get a

41:21

taxpayer funded suicide. And this lack of appreciation for life is dangerous and it

41:28

really is a hill that the West is sliding toward. We need to start

41:32

pulling it back. We're speaking with Carolyn Fipp and she's a candidate for a

41:36

US Senate, only female in the race, not following the Democrat talking points

41:40

as a female on abortion. So she's gotten a little bit of a local

41:44

press on this because it's a unique voice out there. You make a great

41:47

case on stage rights and why Roe v. Wade was even repealed, and

41:52

it puts it back in the state's hands, and it's a government closest to

41:55

the people. You're out on the campaign trail right now, Carolyn, And

41:59

this is the time that I've I loved the interactions in these delegate meetings.

42:01

You get asked hard questions. You got to answer hard questions. Where does

42:07

this issue of abortion, even with the news coming out this week, stack

42:10

up next to the economy and the border and all the other issues that I

42:15

feel like we're confronting all at the same time. Where is how is this

42:19

issue of abortion coming up in your campaign with delegates? It actually is not

42:25

coming up at all in discussions with delegates. I have not had a single

42:30

delegate ask me about this. I have had reporters ask me about it.

42:35

I have no problem. Well, I take that back. I had a

42:38

meeting last Friday with Senator michae Lee and this did come up. So I

42:43

take that back. That was the first question in our event. That's the only time I've been asked that by a delegate. I think it's a great

42:50

discussion to have. But I think for most Utahns, they are those who

42:54

have paid attention to this issue, are satisfied for the time being with where

42:59

the state is, and so it really isn't a big issue to most active

43:04

Republicans, is what I'm finding interesting. Yeah, go ahead, Yeah,

43:09

you bring up the border and the economy. I will tell you those are

43:14

the issues everybody's concerned about. Right We're falling off a cliff as a nation

43:19

when it comes to being able to fund things. We're being overrun at the

43:22

southern border. Those really are the most imminent concerning issues to most people.

43:27

I'm talking to Carolyn. Great chatting with you. I know you've got a

43:29

few weeks to go before the convention. Thanks for your time today. We appreciate it. Thank you, Yeah, thank you so much for us.

43:36

All right, Carolyn Fippin, she is a candidate for the US Senate,

43:38

the only female candidate in that race, as you point out, interesting to

43:42

get her perspective. But you and I both raise their eyes when you ask

43:45

your question about is this an issue that comes up in your town hall meetings?

43:49

No one talks about it? No, And I would bring this up.

43:52

Isn't that something the media would make you think this is the only issue issue? Yeah, I mean the immediate attention. And for again, she's

43:59

not following the the female democrat talking points, and so when she expresses his

44:04

opinions she has heard on the program, they I feel like it's they're trying

44:07

to almost demonize her for these positions. But I think that the utons,

44:12

I think her observation that utons are comfortable with the state law that we have.

44:16

Yeah, I think that's right. And by the way, I'll just

44:20

say, and again, this is one of these issues where democrats ingrain in

44:23

us that US men shouldn't have an opinion on this. I fundamentally do believe

44:28

in human beings right to choose and then live with the consequences, meaning that

44:31

if a woman's a victim of a crime and she was raped, rape,

44:35

or incest, there's some horrific, horrific but important decisions left for that person,

44:39

that woman to make. And I think that if a woman find herself

44:43

losing her life, if she were to have a child. There's a decision point there that wasn't part of the decision tree before. After you get to

44:50

that, we all live with the consequences of the choices we make, and

44:53

and that's that. So I think those exceptions for me personally are absolutely appropriate.

45:09

Welcome back to Wingman Wednesday. Here on Talk Radio one oh five nine

45:14

can r S I am Citizen Hughes along with Broad Arquette. We got you

45:17

know, we had a great interview with can Senate candidate Carolyn fipp In about

45:22

abortion. Interesting that that issue, although the media is making abortion nationally and

45:29

even in Utah, that's the big, big issue for Democrats, right, and they're going after Carolyn on her positions. She's saying that Rod in these

45:36

delegate meetings that are happening in this state right now in preparation for the Republican

45:40

State Convention, it's not coming up. It just is not coming up,

45:45

as you would be led to believe by national and local media. What is

45:49

coming up is this economy. Yeah, this economy and immigration. I've got

45:52

this story, Greg. There was a viral social media video all right about

45:58

a are you ready for this? Twenty five dollars McDonald's meal deal in California.

46:05

It's insane. Yeah, she's a TikTok user. She posts video under

46:09

the user name I won't give it out, but she shared a video just

46:13

a few days ago. She was in a drive through restaurant in southern California,

46:16

McDonald's location there, when she saw a sign for a forty piece chicken

46:21

nugget meal deal, which also included two large fries. The price twenty five

46:25

dollars and thirty nine cents. Yeah, McDonald's, and it's gonna go up,

46:30

and they don't care. Frankly. I mean, you saw what California

46:34

did with their minimum wage for fast food. They're gonna make it twenty dollars

46:37

an hour. What that's going to do is create these kiosks. By the

46:39

way, I hate to say it, they're doing these inconvenience stores. Now.

46:44

I'm all over these kiosks where you just self serve. You just take the little thing, you scan your own stuff, put your card in,

46:49

you leave. You don't have to wait in line. But you don't like

46:51

interacting with people, I don't mind it, but I don't want to stand the line. So I'm just going to this thing. I'm gonna tell you.

46:55

We are gonna be touchless, faceless, conversationless, cash cash lists.

47:00

I mean so yeah, he right, McDonald's and endover they're not so you

47:07

go ahead, politicians. You keep pushing up this so called minimum wage,

47:10

and business if it's going to continue, is gonna have to find a different

47:14

way to you know, crack the code, and it's going to be without people and you're not going to have jobs of any of any amount. Well,

47:20

here are the numbers today from the CPI, and these are frightening.

47:22

Three and a half percent increase. People need to understand that, Greg that's

47:25

three and a half percent on top of the two percent. The three percent,

47:29

I mean, it just keeps growing and things just get pricier and pricier

47:32

every day. So from twenty twenty, if you made one hundred thousand dollars

47:37

a year, folks, in twenty twenty and twenty twenty four, you have to make one hundred and thirty thousand to just break even. To just break

47:44

even, you better have a third more of income than you did four years

47:46

ago, just to have the same buying power you had before Biden took office.

47:52

I don't. And all the while the Democrats will say are you feeling

47:58

that? Does that hard? Does that hurt? You will? And you

48:00

suffer from money dysmorphia. You suffer from money dysmorphia because I don't know if

48:05

you've heard, but Bidenomics is it's the greatest economy we've ever had. If

48:09

you don't like it, here's what's really making the leftists freak out. If

48:15

you take that Morning Joe show on MSNBC and I cannot watch it, but

48:19

I see the ripple effect of that show they had on. So they had

48:23

there's a polster that went and found truly independent voters, fence hitters who are

48:30

in the swing states of Wisconsin and Michigan and what was the other state,

48:36

Pennsylvania? I oh, yeah, Pennsylvanvivaniakay, those three and they asked them.

48:39

They asked them a bunch of questions on abortion. They all think Biden's

48:44

more understanding than Trump. But when they said who would you trust with this

48:49

economy? They had nine people, It was like on a zoom, and

48:53

all nine raised their hand that they trust Donald Trump's appro to the economy and

49:00

they did better than with Biden. And that Micah, whoever's on the mortgage,

49:05

she could not believe her. She couldn't believe it. She was trying to go to a break in a commercial. She had to get off the

49:09

air. She's like, well, what do they like about Biden? And

49:13

and so this focus group they say, Okay, well we kind of think

49:17

he's more in line with us on this, but this economy they go back

49:21

to it. I wouldn't trust him to run it ever again. I mean,

49:24

is it is not a small thing that Biden nomics is just crushing the

49:29

American people in real time? Yeah. But the question I have, Greg, and I think he has the courage, but members of Congress, will

49:35

they have the courage? The number one issue here that I hear economists talk

49:37

about all the time, Greg, when it comes to inflation. Yeah,

49:40

is government spending, government spending, government spending government. Yeah. My question

49:45

is does Donald Trump and Republicans who are elected to Congress, hopefully next year

49:50

or in November, do they have the courage to stop it? They've got

49:53

to, Greg, that's the only way out. Well, I'm gonna give

49:57

you, I believe it, they absolutely do. Two things have to happen.

50:00

First, he's got to win, Okay, and I think that's how hard. That's a high Hills, as bad as Biden is, as bad

50:05

as Biden comics are. I'm going to tell you it's going to be difficult

50:07

to win this race for a myriad of reasons. Okay, some legit,

50:10

some I don't think are legit, But it's going to be hard to win

50:14

this race. If he does, the Democrats will go on full attack.

50:16

I've actually saw the ad already where they're saying, do you know he wants

50:20

to dismantle the government. Oh? Yeah, Well, that's what less federal

50:23

spending will be. He wants to dismantle the government because he's a despot,

50:27

he's a dictator. He wants to he wants to dismantle our federal government.

50:30

So the narratives will be that he is all the evil things they described if

50:36

he tries to shrink or slow down the growth of federal government. So to

50:39

answer your question, we have to be ready for those narratives as American people,

50:44

and we have to reject them outright that when this president gets in and

50:46

hopefully we get people elected to Congress that are serious about this job of actually

50:52

the power of the person doing the constitutional job they're supposed to do, they

50:55

are going to be hit with narratives that they are the worst humans maybe in

51:00

recorded history five thousand years of human recorded history. These coming years, if

51:05

Trump wins, these will be the worst. They will be described as the

51:08

worst people. Well, and that's my question, Greg. Have they got

51:10

the guts to do what needs to be done? It's up to I don't

51:15

know if they do. I mean, this is going to be hard. This is not going to be easy. What are we thirty four trillion dollars

51:20

in debt? Can you can you imagine a president down more resolved to do

51:23

it and ready to take the grief of this media than Donald Trump? Oh

51:27

he didn't care. Yeah. I don't know one person that would that would

51:30

run or be president that could take it better than he can. The people

51:34

we send to Congress and to our centen It's gonna matter. It is absolutely

51:37

gonna matter. For the point you say, do they want to be popular

51:40

because they're not going to be with the media or are they there to get

51:44

that job done and do the right thing because it's it's thirty four trillion in

51:46

counting, and it's and that is not sustainable. You know, I want

51:51

to ask listeners on this, Greg, because I you know, do they have confidence that if Donald Trump gets in, if Congress controls either the Senator,

51:58

House or both, which would be nice. Do you think they have

52:00

the courage to make the the critical steps that need to be taken. I'm

52:04

not confident they do. There's no track record for it. No, No,

52:07

I don't think. Yeah eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Or on your cell phone,

52:13

dial pound two fifty and say hey, rod your calls, your comments coming up here on Wingman Wednesday. Got a nice to have a little Doobie

52:23

Brothers. Bring us back here on Wingman Wednesday. Taking it to the streets,

52:28

Taking it to the streets. Face we're doing here. That's what we

52:30

do every day or every Wednesday on Wingman Wednesday, Rodert, get along with

52:34

Hughes. Now we're talking about the economy. A couple of things on the

52:37

economy today, Greg. People will see this. Donald Trump today shows shows

52:42

up at a Chick fil A. He just walks into a Chick fil A,

52:45

says, how are you Everyboddy? How you know love the restaurant?

52:49

Can I have thirty milkshakes? Yep? And he was sharing, by the

52:52

way, everybody in the Chick fil A was getting a milkshake. He was

52:55

gonna take whatever they didn't take, take the rest way. They got a

52:59

free milk shaking, free chicken. Now. But you know he broke his

53:01

rule. He explained to me why he loved fast food on the go,

53:05

like when he's in Air Force one, we're going to Oh there were pictures

53:07

during the campaign of him any big max all the time, and I said,

53:10

he said, you know what he said, He just he volunteered the

53:14

information. He says, you know why I love McDonald's when we're on Air Force one everything because we can order thirty burgers, we can know everything.

53:20

I know what it's going to taste like, and they don't know who's ordering

53:22

it, so they don't spit my food. As what we said, Well,

53:25

if you walk into Chick fil A, they're going to know it's you're

53:28

ordering it, mister president. So hey, I've got a new name for Bidenomics. Ready for this one? Yeah, lionmics. Yes, they're lying

53:37

to us about this economy. Yep, Bidenomics, bidenflation lionomics, lionymics.

53:44

Yep. Well, consumer prices up another three and a half percent. It

53:49

and every every economist and we'll have hopefully have Steve Moore on tomorrow. They

53:52

always point Greg to federal spending and the size of government and all these programs.

53:57

My question is, Greg, and I want to you know you're to

54:00

this and get callers on this tonight eight eight eight five seven eight zero one

54:04

zero or on your cell phone. Does Donald Trump and Republicans Republicans have the

54:08

guts to make changes in federal spending. I'm not confident they do. So.

54:13

Remember when we had both houses and Bush was in office. I even

54:15

have heard former Congress and Rob Bishop lament that they didn't do what they should

54:20

have done. In hindsight, if you ever had a moment where you would

54:23

have control, if you had if Trump won the White House and you had

54:27

one or both of those the Congress and or Senate, the pressure and the

54:35

criticism because the media has now shown that when they're wrong, they just double

54:38

down. They are not interested if they got it wrong. They're not here

54:42

to say, you know what, we saw this wrong and we're going to

54:44

report accurately. They are going to double down this coming Congress in twenty twenty

54:49

four, whoever wins, if they're Republicans, they are going to be painted

54:52

in the most negative light that you can imagine. They are going to suffer

54:55

from every moral failing imaginable. If you want to government, you want to

55:00

destroy government, you are a despot, You are a dictator. If you

55:04

want to slow down the federal spending. So it's a really good question,

55:08

will these candidates and these people that are running for reelection right now in twenty

55:13

four and those that aren't and they're still there, are they going to do it? It needs to be done. Thirty four trillion in debt and it

55:19

just I mean, it's just not sustainable. We can say that all day,

55:22

but I don't know what they think. The alternative is. Will will

55:25

they be able to make these hard, hard decisions. Well, you know

55:29

what's going to happen. And you alluded to this just a moment ago, Greg Donald Trump gets in office. Let's say he has a program or an

55:35

agency out there and he looks at it and says, it's not doing anything. Why do we have it? Let's cut it. And if it's an

55:39

agency that deals with the poor, deals with minorities, deals with the elderly,

55:45

the media will be all over this like white on Rice. Absolutely,

55:49

you know they will say, look what he's doing. He's leaving these poor

55:52

people abandoned that used to get help from the government. But isn't that what

55:55

needs to be done. I've already seen it. I've already watched this.

55:59

I've watched this happen already. And here's a trick that here's an accounting trick

56:04

that the that the swamp uses. If they were if you were seeing a

56:07

year over year ten percent increase in your budget, Let's say you only saw

56:10

a five percent increase, you were cut five percent, You're cut. So

56:15

if I gain ten pounds, I gain another ten pounds. Now I only gained five pounds. Well, and Washington speak, you lost five pounds.

56:21

No, you didn't lose any twenty five pounds heavy yer than when you started.

56:25

Okay, So even when he slows down the spending, the sky will

56:30

literally be described as falling. And then people want to get reelected. They

56:34

don't want to be painted in that light. Are they going to make those

56:37

hard decisions to stop this this giveaway of money, this printing of money that

56:42

we're seeing right now. I'm not confident they do, Greg. I just

56:45

it's going to take some Cajonis. You're gonna have to make some very very

56:50

difficult decisions out there, but it's got to be done. I mean,

56:53

the government has gotten too big. We are spending way too much money,

56:58

and if we don't stop this. You know who was it? Jamie Diamond

57:02

said the other day, you want to look at World War three. This

57:06

could be World War three if we don't do something about this economy. Yeah.

57:09

So it is hitting the everyday Americans in a way that I don't think

57:14

Washington, even our Republicans appreciate, because when I heard Senator Lee describe why

57:19

he didn't want to start the impeachment process in the Senate towards the latter half

57:23

of this week, it was because he was afraid that senators would smell the

57:28

jet fumes, leaning that they would want to go home. Well, I'll

57:31

tell you what, if you had a Republican to impeach, there's no Democrat

57:35

that would be smelling jet fumes. They'd be there on a Sunday ready to do their job to impeach him. The idea that any Republican would smell the

57:42

jet fumes or want to go home rather than hold Secretary of my Orcus accountable

57:46

or make the hard decisions. I mean, that's an easier decision than what

57:50

we're talking about in terms of slowing down federal spending. If you're not,

57:53

if you're convinced to do otherwise, then they're not feeling the urgency of this.

58:00

Well, if nothing is done, Greg, then why are we going through this process? If nothing's being done, why why are we going through

58:05

this election process? We're all put new people in. They're going to change

58:07

Washington if nothing is done. No, they haven't. Well, I think

58:10

everybody's aspirational. They always are in campaign season, they always are. But

58:16

can they get it done? Can they do it? I I'll tell you

58:20

what when I see this, This what I see on Morning Joe nine nine

58:25

independent voters, and they're all race color, creed age. This is this

58:30

is a true this is a true focus group. And I'm looking at a

58:34

picture where every single one of their hands are up raising that picture that they

58:38

trusted Trump economy over a Biden economy. You know what you got to You

58:43

gotta do what you're saying you're going to do because people are going to put

58:45

their faith in that. And like I said, it's going to be hard for him to win for a myriad of reasons. But if he wins,

58:51

boy, we better It's it's time to turn this ship around. People are

58:54

going to be looking at him for sure. All right, more of your

58:57

calls and comments coming up on this. Do you have faith that are elected

59:00

officials will have the guts to go back to Washington after the November election and

59:05

start making the changes in federal spending and the size of government if in fact

59:07

they are elected. Eighty eight eight five seven eight zero one zero, or

59:12

on your cell phone, ut pound two fifty and say hey, Rod,

59:23

all right, welcome back to Wingman Wednesday with Rod R. Kennon instead of

59:28

in Greg Hughes. We're taking your calls right now. Inflation went encouraging again,

59:31

three and a half percent. This fun. Everybody says, it's government

59:35

spending, the size of government. We've got to reduce it. We've got to cut it back in order to get this under control. But the question

59:40

we have for you today, Greg, is so the politicians have the guts

59:45

to do it? Yeah? Has lion onmics as you as you aptly put

59:52

so, we saw the praise that you received for your great new coined phrase.

59:57

Is it enough to really steal the resolve not just the people that absolutely

1:00:00

know they're being harmed, but those they send the Congress and hopefully to the

1:00:06

White House. Well, they get the job done. Let's see. Let's go to Stephen Layton tonight here on the Rodder Ketchu with wing Men Wednesday.

1:00:12

Hi, Steve, how are you pretty good? How you doing? We're

1:00:15

doing well. Your thoughts on this, Steve? Got to get rid of

1:00:20

the rhinos. Yep, they basically what we need. We're going to need

1:00:25

at least probably fifteen vote margin in the Senate, probably thirty to forty votes

1:00:31

lead in the House so we can override the rhinos. Yeah, that's true,

1:00:36

Steve, you're spot on. You got to get rid of the rhinos. Let's go to Forest in Bluffdale tonight. You're on wing Men Wednesday,

1:00:40

Forest weigh in on this. What do you think, Well, the only

1:00:45

problem with this is that if you cut spending or you increase taxes, it

1:00:52

cuts into GDP growth. No politician wants to actually pull the trigger on that

1:00:58

because government spending figured into GDP growth, So we don't want to cut it

1:01:02

because of GDP growth. Is that what you're saying, Forrest, is that

1:01:06

what's going to happen. Well, I don't. I do. I hopefully

1:01:09

want to cut it. But the problem is you cut half a trillion dollars

1:01:15

off and that's how much comes off of your GDP. Yeah, so no

1:01:20

politician wants to be like, oh, yeah, I managed to put us

1:01:22

into a recession. Yeah, the GDP growth isn't serving us. I mean,

1:01:30

I Forest isn't advocating for that. He's saying this is the this is

1:01:32

the precision tree that they're going to confront is if you slow it down,

1:01:37

you could do that. Well, look, gross domestic product, Yeah,

1:01:39

I get some real products out there. You can't be printing money and pretending

1:01:43

that that's your gross domestric product. And even if it does, uh, you risk these inflations, these recession factors. You'll never convince me that more

1:01:51

jobs, more more, uh, you know, manufacturing all those things we

1:01:54

actually need in this country is gonna he's gonna harm the well, government,

1:02:00

we've got to grow real growth. You can't call government growth growth, can

1:02:04

you. That's not that's not real growth. Let's go to Scott and Herriman.

1:02:07

He wants to weigh in on this tonight as well. Scott, how are you thanks for joining us good. I believe that the Republicans are going

1:02:14

to do the exact same thing that they did if he becomes president. When

1:02:16

Paul Ryan was the Speaker of the House, they didn't support him. And

1:02:21

if you want proof of it, go back to what they just did and

1:02:23

promise that they would do with the budget. They wouldn't even go with Mike

1:02:27

Lee's continuing resolution for three weeks to see what was in the bill. They're

1:02:30

as bad as Nancy Pelosi. That's fine. They're not sad to say,

1:02:35

I love our callers, our callers, they don't even have confidence in our

1:02:38

own politics. But they're right. I mean, that was that was a

1:02:42

really good point. It really is that even Speaker Johnson and I had so

1:02:45

much confidence and the excitement about he's he was ready to reauthorize that Faiza,

1:02:51

the warrantless surveillance of Americans. I mean, again, you want to start,

1:02:57

if you think things are if you think there's national security problems, close

1:03:00

the border, yeah, okay, before you before you start looking at emails

1:03:02

and text and everything else, how about stopping them from coming in. I

1:03:06

mean, I am so disappointed in Congress's leadership. It goes back to what

1:03:10

Steve said about rhinos. If you're if you're the Democrats, you don't have

1:03:15

to be in the majority in that Senate, in our house. All you have to do is pull over Republicans to join you. So you're the You're

1:03:21

you're the majority by one in the Senate. Pull some Republicans over, you

1:03:23

can get your bills done. You're the minority in the Congress, pull some

1:03:27

Republicans over, you can get your job done. It's just a good life

1:03:30

to be a Democrat with these with these particular Republicans that are out there.

1:03:34

It's a very stupid question to ask, because I know you're going to laugh

1:03:37

at me when I ask it, But why are Democrats at times able to

1:03:39

pull over Republicans on their side, but Republicans can never seem to do it.

1:03:44

My answer to that is. My answer to that is that the Democrats

1:03:47

have the media machine, the regime media, who makes heroes out of every

1:03:52

single one of them and turns public opinion, or the fear that they turn public opinion against the Republicans if they are seen to be shutting down the government.

1:03:59

We can't be seen to be doing that. So it's amazing, all

1:04:02

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you'll get two tickets, all right? Eight eight eight five seven eight

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zero one zero eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero be colored number

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four or five for those two tickets. House Conservatives today, Boy did they

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blow. I mean what I mean, they just really dealt a blow to

1:07:23

Speaker Johnson because there were what about nineteen of them who stood up and said,

1:07:27

you know, reauthorization of this FISA bill ain't gonna happen. Too many

1:07:30

problems. So look this, this FISA bill, this SPIZA authorization is the

1:07:36

where you do not need a warrant and you can surveil American citizens. And

1:07:41

we don't worry that this has been abused. We know for a fact that

1:07:45

it has been abused. And Donald tell you, yeah, I asked Donald Trump, yes, and his members of his campaigns to have asked Carter Page.

1:07:51

The issue I have is those weren't That's the only, the only time

1:07:56

it's ever been abused. When you find that's on a silver bullet, you

1:07:59

see by it happens so frequently, it is abused so readily that it finally

1:08:03

hits us, the American people where we are, we get to see these

1:08:06

details. People are really excited that the bill, by a procedural vote on

1:08:12

how it would be debated, was killed today. Do not breathe a sigh

1:08:15

of relief, folks, because there are too many people in the deep state

1:08:18

that will need this and want this FISA authorization to spy on Americans and everyone.

1:08:24

You know, it's meant for terrorists, but they're not giving up.

1:08:28

So as it is right now, it's not moving forward. But I don't

1:08:31

think it's I don't think it's seen its last leg. Now it's scheduled to

1:08:34

expire if it's not reauthorized. But I just want to frame for our listeners

1:08:38

what we're really talking about here. You have some real manipulation I think going

1:08:43

on right now in the press. You have the FBI head Christopher Ray,

1:08:45

who today today delivered remarks saying that we have increasing concern about a terrorist threat

1:08:53

that is sent to try and make people worried, but we better just do

1:08:56

this visa because we don't want a terrorist threat. Do you remember when the

1:09:00

Biden administration got kicked kicked up and start going. President Biden said the worst

1:09:04

threat to Americans, the most existential threat, were these domestic terrorists who what

1:09:11

go to church, own guns, question the twenty twenty outcome of the election,

1:09:15

and and oh don't like the curriculum or have a problem with the curriculum

1:09:19

in the public schools that day had text for the same thing. I think

1:09:23

he said the same thing. So there, what happened to those terrorists?

1:09:26

Yeah? Now, I will say this if you if this is true,

1:09:30

if this rhetoric, and this is and I don't actually even question that we

1:09:32

are under a war threat of a terrorist event today than we were before Biden

1:09:36

took office. I actually believe that's true. But before you go trample and

1:09:41

continue to trample on our civil liberties, go down to that border and stop

1:09:45

them from coming in. Okay, they're coming in. Forget their emails,

1:09:48

forget their texts, forget their their traffic online, Go get them, stop

1:09:54

them from coming in. I'm watching sixty minutes, which is no conservative television

1:09:58

show with upper middle class chin these people with their TikTok apps strolling across the

1:10:02

border with the border patrol with a recorded Mandarin Chinese instruction, welcome, have

1:10:08

at it. Go find an ICE ICE office and register that you're seeking asylum.

1:10:12

Good luck, God bless. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding

1:10:15

me? If you cared one wit, Christopher Ray, if any of these

1:10:18

members of Congress cared about our national security and a terrorist threat, get down

1:10:23

on that border and stop four million people a year from coming in. But

1:10:27

they don't. But they got to come in and do this and surveil us

1:10:30

without warrants. Please. Yeah, I just I think it's such. They

1:10:34

created their own crisis to further flex their control over us. Yeah, well,

1:10:41

I think it was. The New York Post yesterday Greg described this as

1:10:44

another nail in the constitutional coffin. Yes, yeah, that's exactly what this

1:10:48

is. And the other issue, you know, you talked about the border.

1:10:50

The other issue is politicians would be given an exemption on here. If

1:10:55

you're in Congress, if you're in the center of the House, you'd be

1:10:58

given an exemption. This is Thomas Messy, one of the leaders in an

1:11:01

effort to stop this Kentucky apologuess. Let's say him explain what this would do

1:11:06

politically motivated search. So if you, if you're a member of Congress,

1:11:11

you'll be notified if you're the target of a politically motivated search. Oh,

1:11:15

by the way, you can be one of the six non voting delegates from

1:11:17

Guan Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands to Washington, d c. Et cetera.

1:11:23

But if you're not in that four hundred and thirty that club of four

1:11:27

hundred and thirty five plus one hundred plus six extra who get to come along,

1:11:30

they don't get to vote, but they get this special protection. Have

1:11:33

I left anybody out? Presidential candidates get protected? Do they get notified?

1:11:42

Again, it's a different, different provision that that's not in this bill.

1:11:45

I can send you the oion. So the new thing that's in this bill,

1:11:48

the novel concept, is to give every senator in every US rep sort

1:11:54

of a special notification if they've been targeted. Is that true term political bias?

1:12:00

You know? So the the politicians get notified that they've been targeted,

1:12:05

but the average American is notified not at all at all. And in the

1:12:09

in the direct language of the bill, the Director of the Federal Bureau of

1:12:12

Investigation shall promptly notify appropriate Congressional leadership of any query conducted by the Federal Bureau

1:12:17

of Investigation using a query term that has recently believed to have the name or

1:12:21

identity of a member of Congress. Let me just tell you this, okay.

1:12:26

And by the way, there's only like eight of them that they get

1:12:28

to tell this to. But to exclude members of Congress from this intrusion of

1:12:33

your of your privacy and your civil liberties, to try and get the bill

1:12:36

passed, you know we can hear you. Okay, you know you know

1:12:41

you said that out loud. Okay, thank goodness. We have Congress in

1:12:44

MASSI that's actually getting this guy. He's like, you know what about cants. Well, that's another part of the bill. I got an idea.

1:12:48

We'll bring that part of the bill in. Okay, why don't we talk

1:12:50

about the whole thing. The whole thing is, we don't want to be

1:12:54

surveilled, and if you care about our national security, do something with that

1:12:58

border something, because that can't happen that four million people a year, and

1:13:02

people from Iran and from China and from every enemy of the state that we

1:13:05

have walking across unabated, and then you're gonna tell me you have to go

1:13:10

and surveil us. Yeah, come on, Yeah, we get our listeners

1:13:15

and American people can hear this and they're laughing out loud, not laughing,

1:13:17

probably crying. But this is a farce. Yeah. Well, and that's

1:13:21

why you need to listen to Mike Lee. We have Mike Lee on yesterday.

1:13:25

Mike understands that's probably better than anybody else, especially when it comes to

1:13:28

the issues of constitutional questions, and he just laid it out. He said,

1:13:31

look, you cannot spy on the American people, and that's what these

1:13:35

guys are trying to do. His line yesterday. I was listening there.

1:13:39

He says. The debate and compromise on surveilling Americans was settled in seventeen ninety

1:13:45

one. There you go, okay, there you go, there you go.

1:13:48

There. We actually had this debate as a country. We had our

1:13:51

members of Congress debate. We had a built we have a Bill of Rights,

1:13:54

we have productions, we have repetations against this And here's what you have

1:13:58

to remember. Less than one year ago, folks, less than one year ago, we got the Durham Report. Does anyone remember the Durham FBI report

1:14:05

three hundred pages that said that at the FBI, this who you want to

1:14:10

continue to give this kind of authorization to used raw, unanalyzed, uncorroborated,

1:14:15

uncorroborated intelligence to launch a formal investigation crossfire hurricane against against President Trump looking into

1:14:24

Trump in Russia. But the Special Council noted that they did not use the

1:14:30

same standards when they looked into intelligence they received about the Hillary Clinton campaign and

1:14:34

it's and it's looking into into election interference because what they were doing, they

1:14:43

received intelligence that she was going to try and tie through misinformation a connection between

1:14:48

Putin and Trump to draw attention away from her misuse of classified information on a

1:14:54

private email. They got, they got, they got intel on that.

1:14:57

Well, they went through a comple deletely different standard of whether that was real

1:15:01

proof if they had anything to go forward on, and they applied a much

1:15:06

much higher standard. Imagine that. Okay, So it says that neither the

1:15:12

US law enforcement or intelligence community appears to have possessed any actual evidence of collusion

1:15:16

in their holdings. At the commencement of Crossfire Hurricane, folks, Carter Page

1:15:23

was the victim of this fake Phiza by the way, they said, you

1:15:25

know, they only found one minor conviction. Oh it was a PHIZA warrant

1:15:28

where they missed. They were they misrepresented. And carter Page, the Trump

1:15:31

uh campaign worker, was the guy they surveilled. That's not minor, Okay.

1:15:36

And so it's so you're telling me there's a double standard. Yes,

1:15:41

And and John Durham's report from less than a year ago, it lays it

1:15:44

all out there for us to see why you'd read that report and want to

1:15:47

vote for FIZA. You'd have to walk me through that. All right,

1:15:50

Mark coming up on Wingman Wednesday, right here on Utah's Talk. Right,

1:15:54

he'll one oh five nine can orist, all right, welcome back to Wingman

1:16:13

Wednesday. Here on Utah's Talk. Rady on one oh five nine k n Rs rod our Quat along with citizen Hughes. Okay, I've got a little

1:16:18

secret I want. I want to share this with you. I don't want

1:16:20

to shock you or our listeners read to me all the time. This is

1:16:25

you're going to be Okay, Donald Trump interacts with black black people. Yes,

1:16:30

yes, I'm glad you and I'm bringing this up because of what he

1:16:33

did today. You know, we're just watching during the break this. It's

1:16:38

so much fun to see President Trump interacting with everyday people because he relates with

1:16:42

every day people and they love him, and the media never wants to show

1:16:45

it. A comment was made, you can't fake what you're seeing when he

1:16:48

goes in there and he orders thirty shakes. Okay, he went by the

1:16:51

way. He went into a chick fil A today in Atlanta. Yes,

1:16:54

and you know, people working there, they all lined up behind the counter,

1:16:58

smiles, they're ready to greet the they're all black. And he comes

1:17:01

in and does what he orders thirty shapes, and they want to take their

1:17:04

picture with it. So here's here's the thing. The employees that that and

1:17:08

the patrons of this Chick fil A all just swarm him as much as a

1:17:12

secret service will let him. But they're taking pictures or laughing. It's all

1:17:14

it's it's all upside. The thing. The reason why the regime media will

1:17:17

never let you see that moment is that their identity politics does not align with

1:17:23

that moment that happened today, meaning if you're of color, you should hate

1:17:28

President Trump and he is supposed to hate you. And there and nowhere in

1:17:30

between, can you go There isn't anything that the regime media and the left

1:17:34

are telling us about President Trump or about the electorate that you see in that.

1:17:40

In that visit to the Chick fil A today, you're seeing human interaction,

1:17:43

You're seeing excitement, you're seeing discussions. It's it's it's organic. And

1:17:47

then you see Weekend at Bernie's, President Biden at a at a kitchen table

1:17:53

on YouTube. Something they scripted with a bunch of people talking, I play

1:17:56

basketball, you play basketball? Oh? Other is really good. It just

1:18:00

looks like a bunch of robots at the table. They have to stage this.

1:18:03

They had a demistration has to stage this. So they bring Jill and

1:18:08

Joe into a kitchen. They sit down with the black family and they're having

1:18:12

dinner and they stage that. Trump walks into a Chick fil a says,

1:18:15

hey, how are you let's have thirty milk shakes? And why do you

1:18:17

pick that one? He says, he just says it. He says, a member of our club owns this Chick fil a. And he's always raved

1:18:24

about it. I want to come, I want to come see it. And so he shows up, he shows up, and everybody goes crazy.

1:18:30

Everyone loves it. I'm telling you that is real. That is real.

1:18:33

It is genuine, and I and I hope we see more of the president

1:18:35

that way. Here here's another example of it. What was it a couple

1:18:39

of weeks ago, a couple of Thursday nights ago. Here's Biden holding his

1:18:42

big gale in New York. Twenty five million dollars raised, right, big

1:18:45

record. What's Donald Trump doing going to a wake for a fallen police officer

1:18:48

who was gunned down? That's real America, that is and you know and

1:18:54

so, and make no mistake, the media is saying he's doing that because

1:18:57

he can't raise money. He raised forty three million. Yeah, a couple

1:19:00

of weeks later, but he went and put the priority of that fallen officer first. Yeah, well, you were a mare a logo helping him where

1:19:04

he's have money. I wish you showed pictures. I approved that you were

1:19:12

there. I want to golf there. That's what I want to do.

1:19:15

Of course, you and I, You and I we need the golf. Golf you're friends with the Donald, call the guy. You know what.

1:19:19

I don't know if you know this, slaves and gentlemen, But there's a major announcement today in the media world. Like they have their own life,

1:19:25

they have like an industry publication. I know that this is kind of inside

1:19:29

baseball. But they go and they find the one hundred most influential and powerful

1:19:35

radio talk show hosts in America. And you would expect the number one like

1:19:40

a Sean Hannity, And you'd expect the the Buck Sexton and Klay Travis Show,

1:19:44

and and and and uh and Glenn Back to be up there in the

1:19:46

top five. Roderkat is listed top one hundred. You were on there and

1:19:51

that's the second year in a row. And and so you're you are considered

1:19:56

amongst the most powerful in the country. So I think we can get a

1:19:59

tea times. What I'm saying, do you think this all lands to us

1:20:02

getting a tea time? So we just called the Donald, yes, and

1:20:04

we say, hey, look, one of the top talk show hosts in

1:20:06

the country wants to come play golf at your absolutely And he called me when

1:20:11

you weren't here. Remember that you have to rub that rubbed that president had

1:20:15

worked so hard to get one of those. So great. It was on

1:20:18

vacation and you get a call from the Donald. I did. It was

1:20:21

it was amazing timing. But he was very nice and got along well with

1:20:26

e Ray, which had a conversation. Yeah, he kept just shooting the

1:20:30

breeze with Eray while I was waiting to get on the air with him. But he's totally I'm convinced he's going to get let us on. We're gonna

1:20:34

bring good tea time at the at the Florida at lag I wonder if you

1:20:41

ever thought what it's like to play golf with him. He's good. I've

1:20:44

seen him is good. No, he's good. His swing is a bit compact, it's a little weird, but it's he hits the ball straight.

1:20:49

He's good and he can sink a putt. Yeah, I'm telling you.

1:20:53

I know they only shade the highlights, but the guy plays. He knows

1:20:55

how to play well. Rush used to play with them all the time,

1:20:57

and Rush was a pretty good. Yes, he was from what I understand,

1:21:00

And I'm better than you, but I'm not good, so I you know, I don't know. I don't know where that puts me. Should

1:21:04

I share with the audience, you and me on a golf course one time

1:21:09

I share this story. I don't know what we're you don't know what one's

1:21:12

coming up? Right? Not with D? Right? Yeah it was with

1:21:15

D. We're down in St. George. But where were we were at Kenyon Cove cove what do they call that? Oh, Coral Canyon? Right,

1:21:20

So we're down there plane okay, and I'm out driving mister Hughes on

1:21:25

almost every hole. He absolutely hates this I do. So he out drives

1:21:30

me on a hole by about fifteen yards at least at least so he takes

1:21:34

a picture of this, a video of it and post it. Yes social

1:21:39

media, look at Drove Road or cat. I think that. I think

1:21:43

what I said was, I think they're planning a Walmart uh development between my

1:21:46

ball and yours off to this teeth. I think that's what I said to

1:21:49

be accurate. But yeah, no, yeah, it's But we should definitely

1:21:54

get on mar logo. I think the President will let us doun sometimes you

1:21:58

bring the listeners with us, We'll show sometime we should invite a few listeners

1:22:00

to come play with us. We should. That would be entertaining. They

1:22:03

are the smart listeners. They have to be a they have to be patient

1:22:06

listeners to play well the way you go, because we're always looking for your

1:22:10

lost ball out there or something. I mean, can't get anything done on

1:22:14

play golf with you. But that was very nice. Thank you for the

1:22:16

recognition. It's two years in a row, top one hundred. Yes,

1:22:19

our situation, and it's the audience. The audience we like you've said,

1:22:24

Greg, what you call them the smartest audience out there? Yep, the

1:22:26

smartest audience and all the land. I've been waiting for the Jeopardy contest with

1:22:30

radio audiences because our listeners would would wipe the board with any listening audience in

1:22:34

America easily without even thinking twice. Yeah, all right. When we come

1:22:38

back here on the final half hour Wingman Wednesday, we're poored out today.

1:22:42

It's showing more and more voters are shifting to the Republican Party. Yes,

1:22:45

yeah, absolutely, and America common sense, yeah, come and say.

1:22:48

And another survey says we aren't as divided as we think we are. Would

1:22:53

you agree with that? I would not. I am surprised by that information,

1:22:57

but I'm happy to hear it. Yeah, yeah, me too. All right. That's im up right here on wing Man Wednesday and Utah's Talk

1:23:01

Radio one oh five nine can or all right, Welcome back wing Man Wednesday.

1:23:15

Final half hour here on Utah's Talk Radio want oh five nine K and

1:23:18

R S Jesse Kelly Show coming your way following our news update at the top

1:23:23

of the hour. You listen to Jesse when you drive home. He's a

1:23:27

hoot. I think he's hilarious. He's a hoot, and I love that

1:23:30

he's just taking I use words, leftist regime media. He just says communist.

1:23:34

It's just everything. They're just communists. And I really can't communist.

1:23:39

I can't really argue with it. It's it is, it's it's common.

1:23:41

You know, we had him here what several months ago when he had his

1:23:44

new book out, long line of people wanting to get autographed. He's tall.

1:23:47

I'm just gonna say, isn't he like ten feet tall? No?

1:23:50

Well, yeah, he's tall. He's six foot eight maybe seven. He's

1:23:55

tall. He ran for Congress at least or twice. I think it was

1:23:58

in Gabby Gifford's district. Yes, down in Arizona, wasn't it. Yep.

1:24:01

Oh, I enjoy his commentary. Sometimes he's a little too negative for

1:24:04

me, Like I'm an optimist, and sometimes he gets he can't find it.

1:24:10

Well, he can find it. He can find a loss in anything.

1:24:12

But we got to find some wins out here. And so but I

1:24:15

do, I really do enjoy his comments. All Right, A couple of stories. There's a story out today and you and I were looking at this

1:24:19

story. The Pew Research Center has done a study and it's showing greg more

1:24:24

voters are shifting to the Republican Party and now closing the gap with Democrats.

1:24:29

I mean, it's pretty that's an amazing shift that's taking place. And you

1:24:33

know, the theory is, I think there are some here we go again,

1:24:36

common sense, fair minded Americans in the middle who are now seeing the

1:24:41

light of day. So you know it's serious. When the New York Times

1:24:44

is reporting this news, amen to that. Yeah. So they're saying, and this is a New York Times, So this is the enemies the regime

1:24:50

media is and you know we're intercepting their communications. Yes, the commence Jess

1:24:55

Keller would accurately put, they're saying more voters shift to Republican Party using the

1:25:00

gap with Democrats in twenty twenty election, more voters across the country identified as

1:25:04

Democrats. Four years later, that gap has shrunk. Now it sits almost

1:25:10

evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans. Now that that's a significant For this reason,

1:25:14

Rod think, or one of the reasons. Every time you saw a poll, and Trump never let a single poll in twenty sixteen or in twenty

1:25:20

twenty, they did what they call waiting. They would wait the poll with

1:25:25

self identified Democrats because more people identified as Democrats and likely voters identified as Democrats,

1:25:30

so they would take their sampling for the poll and put more Democrats into

1:25:33

that number. And even when they did that, you saw Trump win in

1:25:39

sixteen and get more votes than anyone had ever gotten except for Biden, seventy

1:25:43

six million or seventy four million instead of the sixty five million, which is

1:25:45

a high mark in prior past elections. Now that it's fifty to fifty,

1:25:51

you can't wait those polls that way, and you're starting to see you're seeing

1:25:56

Trump show up ahead in the polls really for the first time. Yeah.

1:26:00

Interesting. There's a quote from the director of research Therapew. She said this.

1:26:04

She said, the Democratic and Republican parties have always been very different demographically,

1:26:10

but now they are more different than ever. And I would agree with

1:26:13

that because Greg of the progressive lurch of the Democratic Party, I mean,

1:26:18

they are you and I were. You asked me, you know, what

1:26:21

was your dad's party affiliation growing up a Democrat? My dad was a Truman

1:26:26

and Kennedy Democrat, a labor Democrat. He wouldn't be today. All the

1:26:30

family I grew up around, they were they belonged to unions, and they

1:26:34

were Democrats, and it was just kind of the way it was. But

1:26:38

the working class voter, the working class voter right now is migrating to the

1:26:41

Republican Party. I would argue for positions of common sense things that used to

1:26:45

be. Again, boys playing girl sports was not our old school Democrat relatives

1:26:50

would have not thought that was an issue. They'd laughed at that. Yeah,

1:26:54

why chemically castrating kids, That's that's not a political issue. That's not

1:26:58

you just don't do that. You name it. Those issues that the Democrats

1:27:01

have abandoned the American people. And what you're seeing is that the working class

1:27:05

voters, by the admission of the New York Times, is migrating to Republican

1:27:11

However, there's always a silver lining for them. They give hope to their

1:27:15

liberal readers because they're the elites. They're certainly not the working class. They're

1:27:19

not the boy They're saying that that's a shrinking demographic because they're getting old,

1:27:26

older, and you know, people don't really work like that anymore, you

1:27:29

know, so that that working class is kind of a waging class. Wait

1:27:32

a minut, I don't get that story, because The Times yesterday or two

1:27:35

days ago said baby boomers could be saving Joe Biden. Yeah well folk,

1:27:42

yeah, well yeah. This admits that the catches that the white working class

1:27:45

voters are slowly declining as a share of registered voters. So the Republican strategy

1:27:50

of relying heavily on this group may not be sustainable in the long term.

1:27:55

Now they do, they do try to chill the migration of the black vote

1:28:00

and Hispanic vote to Republicans and to Trump, which is actually really significant.

1:28:04

You've actually had guests on the program that they have pointed to this this real

1:28:10

shift that's happening. The New York Times tries to downplay that part. That

1:28:14

is one that I think you're going to see in this election. As you

1:28:16

saw in the last election, a stronger minority vote for Trump. Last in

1:28:23

twenty twenty, it was the largest minority vote for Republican candidate for president since

1:28:26

Eisenhower. You'll see that number eclipsed in the twenty four race, which I

1:28:30

think is also very significant. And there's a story somewhere in my stack. It's tough today, Greg, that shows that the Biden administration has almost given

1:28:36

up on the Hispanic vote. I mean, he yesterday appeared, they did

1:28:40

a one hour show with him on Univision or one where he said, you

1:28:43

know, hey, we're examining now illegal immigration. What I can do about

1:28:46

it? A yeah? But you know, I think the Hispanic vote in

1:28:50

this country, and we think of it always as a monolithic block that they

1:28:54

all vote the same. No, they don't, Greg, I mean there

1:28:57

are different issues within Blacks with Hispanics, within lights with an Asians, you

1:29:01

name it, right, Greg, They're right, They're all there. They

1:29:04

are different. So to single amount and say well they're all going to vote

1:29:08

for Trump, No, there, we understand that. But if we can

1:29:11

make inroads into that, that's a signal. Those are significant percentages. Once

1:29:15

you get into the double digits of some of these voting blocks that have that

1:29:17

the Democrats have dominated for generations. Uh, it does shift the politics for

1:29:24

sure, Yeah, it does. All right, more coming up it is

1:29:27

Wingman Wednesday right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can rice?

1:29:30

Are we as divided as we think we are? We'll talk about that

1:29:34

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1:29:50

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1:30:00

People actually do want to listen to the show if they miss I hear request all the time. When does the podcast come up? When's it coming up?

1:30:05

Tomorrow? Usually E Ray does this, but he had to leave a

1:30:08

little early tonight, so he'll put it up tomorrow morning, so it will

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be there tomorrow. Yeah. I have some epic rants and some of these

1:30:14

and some of these segments, So you're gonna want to hear it again, or if you didn't hear it the first time, you're gonna want to go

1:30:18

revisit it. Yeah. Yeah, epic is right. Story today in axios

1:30:23

imagine this Greg wild thought. As they wrote, they said, what if

1:30:27

we've been deceived into thinking we're more divided, more dysfunctional, and more defeated

1:30:32

than we actually are. Are we There's only one version of that scenario I

1:30:39

would accept, and that is that common sense is more prevalent than the Democrats

1:30:44

would like it to be, because if we are united, it's over some

1:30:46

real, fundamental and important issues that right now it seems like Republicans are the

1:30:50

only ones advocating for. I would love for it to be the American people

1:30:54

are advocating for. Yeah. Yeah, well the people. Axios took a

1:30:58

look at things and here's what they found out. No, most Christians are

1:31:01

not white nationalists. Imagine that white Christian nationalists who see Donald Trump as a

1:31:09

godlike figure. Most are ignoring politics and wrestling with their faith. Yeah,

1:31:14

would you agree? Yeah? I think people are. I think that the

1:31:16

Deep States no longer deep. I think it's right up in our face now.

1:31:19

I think that even if you didn't want to delve into politics or be

1:31:23

involved, I think it's involving you. You're being pulled into this, whether

1:31:27

you like it or not. So I think politics are playing a greater role

1:31:30

in our conversations and what our awareness of current events but I do think that

1:31:36

people are trying to do the best they can for their family, for themselves,

1:31:40

for their household, and there is a lot of common ground and overlap

1:31:43

when you think of it that way. Yeah. Yeah, here's another one. No, most college professors aren't trying to silence conservatives or turn kids into

1:31:50

liberal activists. Most are just teaching math, physics, or biology. No,

1:31:55

I totally yeah, I'm with you on that one. The our institutions

1:32:00

of higher education have become a breeding ground for left of center thought, and

1:32:04

they have no tolerance, by the way, for the right. They really

1:32:08

don't. There is no diversity of thought in our institutions. I hire learning

1:32:12

as far as I've been able to. Well, what a past survey show

1:32:14

that is percent of college and university professors are Democrats and maybe five or ten

1:32:20

percent of conservatives. You want to know why, because those that can't teach,

1:32:25

Okay, those that can, they go to work, They get a

1:32:27

job, they go to the they go get tenure at a school. If

1:32:30

they can't do it, they want to teach it to talk about it. Here's another way. No, most kids don't hate Israel and run around chanting

1:32:39

from river to the sea. On most campuses. Most of the time,

1:32:42

students are doing what students have always done in mess learning. I think there's

1:32:45

a fringe there, Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do too.

1:32:48

I think that that anti Semitism is not prevalent amongst college students. Yeah,

1:32:54

I would love to I do think that's the case. But we see the

1:32:57

fringe in the media pays most attention to. Yeah, this is what we've

1:33:00

talked about today, Greg. No, most Republicans don't want to abandon all

1:33:04

abortions starting a contra a conception. No, most Democrats don't want to allow

1:33:10

them until birth. All agree with the first part. They disagree with the

1:33:13

second part. Democrats abortion at any com we don't care. Yeah. Well,

1:33:16

Democrats help me realize that they have no end to it. Because you

1:33:19

had that governor from Virginia, Democrat governor that was a physician who he said,

1:33:27

you could you could deliver a full term baby all but its head and

1:33:30

abort it and that would be called a partial birth abortion. That's in fantaside.

1:33:33

So I I do think Democrats don't have us at an end of what's

1:33:39

I think they could take a two year old at some point and call it

1:33:41

abortion. Yeah, yeah, another one. No Democrats or I'm sorry,

1:33:46

immigrants who are here illegally aren't rushing to vote and commit crimes. Actual date

1:33:51

is show both rarely happened, even amid a genuine crisis at the border.

1:33:57

I think that I think that the way you get across a border right now

1:34:00

is through cartels, and I think you are beholden to those cartels and to

1:34:03

pay off whatever debt you acquired to get across with those cartels. So I

1:34:08

think you got mules. I think you have human and drug trafficking happening at

1:34:12

a very dangerous level. There's a bad segment with them there. There's still

1:34:15

out about it. You might have well intentioned people, but they have a debt. Yeah. The other thing that's going on is those illegals who are

1:34:20

coming into the country illegally, of course, are taking part time jobs from

1:34:24

the American people. You know, they are bragged that the unemployment number or

1:34:28

the employment numbers were up. The analysis has shown a lot of that has

1:34:31

gone to part time jobs and some Americans greg are having to take pint time

1:34:35

jobs just to make a living anymore. They have a full time job,

1:34:39

now they take them part time. Such a negative consequence to working the working

1:34:43

class of our country. And then remember this, anybody that comes here illegally,

1:34:46

they're committing identity theft of some sort to be able to keep their job.

1:34:50

Yeah. Yeah, No, most people don't fight on X. Turns

1:34:54

out a vast majority of Americans never tweeted at all. I don't tweet a

1:34:58

lot. I don't either, but I watch it. I think. I

1:35:00

think Elon Musk has given us one platform other than like truth and some of

1:35:04

those other ones. But of the major ones, I think Instagram has its

1:35:08

liberal algorithms. You've got YouTube with its liberal algorithms. Facebook liberal algorithms.

1:35:14

X I think is trying to be a lot more freedom of speech conscious.

1:35:16

And so yeah, there's that one other one. No, most people aren't

1:35:20

cheering insults on Fox News and MSNBC in the evening. Turns out less than

1:35:25

two percent of Americans are even watching. Well at your household, Yeah,

1:35:30

I don't watch Fox anymore. That you haven't given up the band yet,

1:35:34

I can't find its replacement either, Well no I can't. It's it's my

1:35:40

boycott is still going on, but I don't have it. I have not

1:35:43

found its alternative view. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now see if you agree with this, you're ready. Republicans Democrats agree. The following rights and

1:35:49

freedoms are extremely, very important to well function in America. Right to vote

1:35:54

correct, well, I think Republicans rightly vote under certain I think has love.

1:36:00

The right to count the vote and massage the vote. Yes, they

1:36:03

don't care who votes, they care who counts. Yeah, I worked the

1:36:06

vote. Right to equal protection under the law. No, again, that

1:36:12

goes back to Danny. Politics have changed all that. It's not equal protection.

1:36:16

Equity means equal outcome, not equal opportunity. Yeah. Right to freedom

1:36:20

or religion. No, they they've demonized Christians. Case in point, Greg,

1:36:26

the same school I think it was in the Seattle, Washington area.

1:36:29

This is the school that remembered the football coach would take a knee at an

1:36:32

end of a game, and they fired him. He took the Supreme Court

1:36:34

and run. Well. Now, now, Greg, there's an eleven year

1:36:38

old girl up there who wants to set up in this school a faith club.

1:36:43

Okay, the school has told her no, But the school told another

1:36:47

group of kids who want a pride club that they can go ahead and do

1:36:50

it. There you go, yeah, there you go? So yeah you

1:36:54

either got to get rid of clubs or you got to let clubs come in

1:36:57

and be what clubs want to be. But yeah, but there there is

1:37:00

your your exhibit A on you know there there is there is discrimination, yeah

1:37:05

occurring, right, Yeah, And I love to think they're right to own

1:37:09

a gun is important? Amen to that, Yeah, Amen to that.

1:37:13

So look, Axios wants to actually lull us into a false sense of security

1:37:17

on some of those stats. But I do think that the American people there's

1:37:20

a lot of overlap on our concerns and our priority of which the leftists do

1:37:27

not concur I mean, if you know, they got a club, we're

1:37:30

not in it, and they just want you to stay in your lane. They if they can have a caste system, they'd go back to that in

1:37:34

a heartbeat. I think they want that all right, that you know what

1:37:36

world done? We are? Ye? It was quick? Goodness, there

1:37:41

it is. I can't believe it's over. It's over. That up,

1:37:45

shoulders back. May God bless you and your family and certainly this great country

1:37:48

of ours. Thing for listing back tomorrow. It's have a good evening.

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