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Listen and you will know. First of all, if you haven't heard this

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time, you know, I love people who are willing to rock the boat,

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baby. I mean, that's one of the things that I liked about

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Donald Trump. You know, Donald Trump, when he was liketed back in

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twenty sixteen, you know, you just saw him like this bull in a

0:41

china shop. He was going to go in and do whatever he could,

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and he promised the American voters who cast their ballots for him that he would

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go in and shake up Washington. Well, he was held back, I

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think by Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, but he did what he could.

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And I think that's what's so exciting about the possibility of Donald Trump returning to

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Washington for a second term as President of the United States, because I think

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I think he has learned his lesson about how Washington works, and I think

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he's ready to shake things up. Now, we're going to shake things up

1:10

a little bit today on this show as well. Join us one hour from

1:15

now because you'll want to find out what is about to rock the world of

1:18

the political scene here in the state of Utah. It really really will,

1:22

And I think you want to be listening, That's all I'm going to say.

1:25

But you'll want to be listening. At about five oh five tonight, we'll bring somebody on and I think this person is about to shake things up

1:30

a little bit, and you're probably going to say it is about time,

1:34

and I can't wait. I mean it is. There are people going what

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you know, that's what they're going to say tonight, and you'll want to

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be listening. So it's going to be a fun show today. So I

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invite you to listen at five oh five. If you're like me, you

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like to rock the boat, you like to shake things up, you like

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to make changes that you feel are necessary and have the intestinal fortitude to do.

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So that's the kind of people I like, and I know a lot of you are out there like that as well. You're gonna get criticized,

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you know, you're an extremist, you're some radical, you're a nut job.

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Well, you know what, maybe if we had a few more nut

2:07

jobs an extremist in this country, we'd be able to get things done and

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that's why I invite you to be you listening today in the five o'clock color.

2:14

How are you everybody, Hello, Utah. Great to be with you

2:16

on this Thursday afternoon. By the way, I just want to take a

2:21

minute and thank the wonderful people today. I was asked to be the keynote

2:24

speaker at the Utah Funeral Directors Association their annual convention. They held it down

2:30

at the bar and there at Thanksgiving point. Wonderful group of people had a

2:35

chance to share it with them. Blaus. They were very gracious and we

2:38

appreciate them. And I think this is the second day of their comfort that

2:42

is wrapping up. But it was fun to speak with them today, So

2:45

I appreciate their help. And by the way, tomorrow I'll be a panelist

2:47

on the Hinckley Report. That's the weekly report that is done by the Hinckley

2:52

Institute with Jason Perry at the University of Utah. I'll be on that show.

2:57

We'll tape it in the morning and it plays back tomorrow night. I

2:59

think it's seven seven thirty. So I invite you to join us on that

3:02

show as well. All right, a lot of things to get to today,

3:07

growth slowed down, someone said massively. In this quarter. Steve Moore,

3:13

a economists, will join us to Steve Cordell. Steve is the founder

3:16

of an organization called League of American Vote Workers. Got a great article out

3:22

there about Republicans who, for some reason, and I don't understand why,

3:27

maybe you do, but for some reason, continue to surrender to the Democrats.

3:31

Case in point, this ninety five ninety six billion dollar foreign aid package

3:38

going to Ukraine, Israel, in Taiwan. They're just giving him the money,

3:40

no cuts anywhere to offset the increase in spending. And Steve's going to

3:46

talk about that, and he'll talk about the surrender Republican Republicans. A little

3:49

bit later on, we will hear from the editor in chief of a I

3:54

think it's a newspaper called the Columbia Sun Dial. It's on the campus of

3:59

the univers of Columbia. They're in New York, and he is going to join us coming up at six oh five tonight and tell us what's going on

4:05

on campus and his feelings in the protection of Jewet students there on the campus.

4:11

So we've got a great show for you today. As always, we

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invite you to be a part of it eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero, or on

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your cell phone, all you do is have to dial pound two fifty and

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simply say, hey, Rod. Now, I think many of you have

4:26

heard, and I did, and I may even have an old T shirt

4:30

that says this. Maybe I threw it away. But if you live in Texas, you know there's a great phrase down there that says, don't mess

4:35

with Texas. Right well, I think if there is one state in this

4:40

country that will not tolerate those pro Hamas mongrels establishing camps on college campuses,

4:47

it's the state of Texas. You know, what are these kids thinking down

4:51

in Texas? Are they nuts the lone Star state would allow they were thinking

4:57

the lone Star state would allow pro terrorist nons sense to reverberate across various campuses

5:01

down there at the in Texas. Well, no police and security forces.

5:06

I love this moved in quickly yesterday to disrupt the pro Hamas shenanigans down there

5:13

in Austin, Texas. I mean, it was almost delightful to see them

5:16

move in. Here's the stories, a little backgrounds to exactly what happened.

5:20

A student walk out at the University of Texas at Austin in support of Palestine

5:25

turned to chaotic Wednesday when police officers tried to disburse protesters using horses and riot

5:31

gear, resulting in the arrest of at least thirty people. Two members of

5:35

the media were also arrested. Media, get the heck out of the way.

5:39

It's not your business to be in the middle of that. More than

5:42

five hundred students walked out of class Wednesday to demand that ut Austin divest from

5:47

manufacturers supplying Israeli weapons to its strikes in Gazam. The demonstration showed no sign

5:54

of violence before the authorities moved in. No police ordered the protesters multiple times

6:00

to disperse and warn them that they would be arresting others as well, and

6:08

so the cops moved in. Campus police initially appeared to be open to negotiat

6:12

him with the protesters to let them stay there for a little while. When

6:15

they arrived, things fell apart within the first couple of minutes, and that's

6:19

when officers signaled out a protest organizer and a golf gold scarf, saying that

6:25

he would be the first to go that protester. By the way, it

6:29

was the first one to be arrested. So you know, if you look at all of this, you say, and by the way, surprise the

6:33

prize. Even in deep blue state California, they weren't going to tolerate the

6:39

nonsense either. Even Prohamas camps at the University of Southern California were dismantled and

6:45

dismantled very quickly. So why aren't we see that happening at Columbia University in

6:49

New York. Tom Cotton, he is the US Senator from the Great state

6:54

of Arkansas. He was on Fox and he was asked to come in about

6:57

why New York is not doing anything to get these kids out of the way.

7:00

New York City has an obligation to enforce the law and to protect innocent

7:04

civilians like those Jewish students. If there's a crime being committed in a private

7:10

home, the police have every right to go into the home to stop the

7:13

imminent crime being committed. So they certainly have every right as well. And

7:16

yes, I do agree that if Eric Adams won't send the NYPD to protect

7:20

these Jewish students, if Kathy Holkl won't send the National Guard Joe Biden has

7:25

a duty to protect these Jewish students from what is a nascent pogram on these

7:30

campuses. These are scenes like you've seen out of the nineteen thirties in Germany.

7:34

They should never be witnessed or tolerated here in America in twenty twenty four.

7:39

But it is a Columbia University and they are being allowed to get away

7:42

with it. We'll see how long the patients of Columbia University, the mayor

7:46

of New York City, and the governor of New York State are going to

7:49

tolerate this. My guess is they aren't going to do anything. And speaking

7:53

of that, this somewhat a related story Hererick called last week that Google fired

7:57

twenty eight employees who would participate in a sit in aimed at getting the company

8:01

to end cooperation with Israel. Remember that, Well, that seemed to be

8:05

the end of it. We thought it was right until yesterday when another group

8:09

of twenty employees got the acts at Google for participating in that sit in.

8:13

Good for Google, all right? More coming up busy afternoon here on the

8:18

rod ar kenhow Steve more Economy Steve Moore will join us. Coming up,

8:20

we'll talk about the latest on spending numbers, and don't forget we're going to

8:24

rock your boat coming up at five oh five tonight right here on the rod

8:28

ar Ken Show. You want to keep on listening. More coming up on

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Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. All right, welcome back to

8:43

the rod ar Ketcho on this Thursday. Great to be with you as you

8:48

work your way home this afternoon. I had a little rain earlier, appears

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to be clearing up right now. Nice, Please go over in our studios

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here on the west side of the valley. Great to be with you if you want to be a part of the program today eight eight eighths by seven

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oh eight zero one zero triple eight five seven oh eight zero one zero,

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or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey Ron. All

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right, let's dig into a little bit of economic news. The US economy

9:11

grew at a rate of one point six percent in the first quarter of twenty

9:15

twenty four. That's according to the Gross Domestic Product the GDP statistics released today

9:20

by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The growth really slowed down massively, well

9:26

below what many people are expecting. Well, let's dig into the numbers with

9:30

their good friend Steve More, an economist with the Committee to Unleashed Prosperity,

9:33

also an economic advisor to former President Trump, and I think he's helping him

9:37

this time as well, Steve. Thanks for joining us. Tight surprised by

9:41

these numbers, Steves, Yeah, I was surprised by that number because it

9:43

seemed like the economy was getting better. But I'll tell you what happened is

9:46

that, you know, inflation is so high, it's running at you know,

9:50

between four and five percent right now, that even when you have more

9:54

economic activity, it's it's barely keeping up with the rate of inflation, so

9:58

that the high inflation number drove down, remember these our inflation adjusted real TVP

10:05

numbers, So you know it was I was disappointed. I thought we would

10:09

do better. One and a half percent growth isn't very good. We should be going about half twice that much. But again, I think it comes

10:16

down to the fact that prices are still out of control. And after I

10:18

look at that report, I think, my gosh, it's going to be

10:20

hard for the Fed to cut interest rates now because the real animating feature of

10:28

the economy right now is out of control inflation. Yeah, I was going

10:31

to ask you, Steve, and you could probably talk about this subject for

10:33

hours, but why is inflation right now being so stubborn? What is going

10:37

on? Do you think, Steve, how to control government spending? Because

10:41

that is you know, that's the main thing. I mean, you know,

10:45

when you're borrowing in the first quarter of the year, we borrowed over

10:50

five hundred billion dollars in a quarter in three months. How do you stop

10:56

it? Steve? I mean, what what is it going to take to

10:58

stop is? Well? I think I may al la because I asked I

11:03

could asked that question five times every day. And look, I wish I

11:07

could say, oh, just elect Republicans and they'll do it. But you

11:09

know, it's a bipartisan problem. Both politicians love to play Santa Claus.

11:13

They love to spend money they don't have, uh, and they love to

11:16

spend other people's money. And you know, we've got to grow the economy

11:20

faster, and we've got to put lids on attal spending. I think we

11:24

need a balanced budget amendment to require Congress to you know, only spend as

11:30

much as you take in and except for extraordinary circumstances. You know, it's

11:33

one thing to borrow during COVID when we're at a crisis in our hand.

11:37

But you know, COVID is not four years old. We're still borrowing like

11:39

we're in a crisis, you know, Steve, you mentioned, you know,

11:43

Republicans and Democrats, but here they are working together on this ninety five

11:46

billion dollar aid package to Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan. Talk about spending

11:50

money. Steve and the American people are looking at that, aren't they insane?

11:54

What on earth are you guys doing? You know, I know various

12:00

You know a lot of my friends and colleagues have very different opinions about whether

12:03

we should be you know, spending some ninety five billion dollars on four and

12:05

eight. I'm against it, but I respect people have, you know,

12:09

different opinions on it. But I think we should all agree. If it's

12:13

such a you know, urgent and emergency expenditure, then we should pay for

12:16

it by cutting other expenditures. You know, That's what a household would do

12:20

or business. But not one penny of this ninety five million dollars is paid

12:24

for by offsetic cuts. And this is part of the culture of Washington now

12:28

that they just spend and spend you know, I've said it before on your

12:31

show that the Democrats have been, you know, exercising this modern monastery theory,

12:37

which is we could just follow them borrow. Well, I hate to

12:39

tell it, but now Republicans are on board that too. Yeah. Yeah,

12:43

So see, I want to talk about this article that was in a

12:46

number of various websites that you wrote about small business and why it hates dynomics.

12:50

You know, here the administration and there are some of the administrations saying

12:54

the economy is good. If that's the case to Eve, why do small

12:58

business leaders feel so better right now? What is going on with small business?

13:03

Well, that's a great question. What we do know is they are

13:05

very pessimistic about things. I mean, they're s pessimistic as they've been.

13:09

They're more pessimistic today than they were during COVID, which is amazing. I

13:13

think the number was like a twelve year low. This is done by the

13:16

National Federation of Independent Businesses, which represents tens of thousands of small business owners

13:20

and the men and women who run these companies, you know, with less than one hundred employees, are really dolly. They're down on the economic conditions.

13:28

I think one reason is that they are really feeling the front line of

13:31

the inflation because you know, their costs are rising. You're running a restaurant,

13:35

or you're running a store, or you're running a little you know,

13:39

gardening company or something. You know, your costs go up and you have

13:43

to charge higher prices and then you lose customers. So they're an advice right

13:46

now. But the main point that I want to stress is that you know,

13:50

we can't grow this economy for our small businesses aren't growing, and right now they're not in the mood for growing. They're kind of hunkered down.

13:56

Yeah, what about the regulation that they're facing, Steve, I mean,

13:58

is them just oppressive? Yep. So you know in our hotline today that

14:05

I'm sure you get help that we put out at the committee, we note

14:09

that this last week had more new regulations than any week that we can measure,

14:13

at least in my lifetime, in your lifetime. And you know,

14:16

for example, the FCC now announced new regulations to regulate the Internet, and

14:22

the FTC had this new rule that said you can't have noncompete agreements with your

14:28

employees. There was another one that is going to require all freight, whether

14:33

it's carried by truck or by train or by ship to be carbon neutral,

14:39

no fossil fuels. I guess we're going to use sailboats. I mean,

14:43

it's just craziness, Steve. My father was a small businessman. He's deceased

14:46

now, but they had a very successful small business years and years ago.

14:50

If you've got somebody out there now, Steve, who is thinking about setting

14:54

up a small business, what advice would you give him, Steve, other

14:58

than don't well, you know, look, I think small business is the

15:03

final quarter of our economy. There's nothing more exciting than starting a small business,

15:07

you know, from scratch and letting it grow. I think those are the real heroes of the economy. So I don't want to dissuade people from

15:13

starting a business. It's great, it's a great thing, you know.

15:16

And I started three. Two of them failed and one of them was able to survive. You know, that's about the batting average of most small businesses,

15:22

about two out of three fail and one out of three succeed. But

15:24

you know, if we don't have small businesses, we don't have an economy.

15:28

Yeah, that's for sure. A final question for you, Steve, because I know you love talking about this, but let's talk politics for a

15:31

minute. More and more polls are coming out showing Trump is not only gaining

15:35

but gaining strength in a lot of swing states while he's on trial and Joe

15:41

Biden is out there campaigning in those states. What's your take on all of

15:43

this and these polling numbers. I know, as early we're still a ways

15:46

out, but what's your take on this? Right now? I think this

15:50

race is a complete toss up. I think it's a coin flip right now.

15:52

I couldn't predict, you know, if you put a gun to my head and say, I think Trump is going to win, But I you

15:56

know, I think it's there's so many impowderable and so many things that can

16:00

happen over the next you know, six or seven months that make it almost

16:03

impossible to determine. But you're right. The more the Democrats, you know,

16:07

bring these sham lawsuits against Trump and put them on trial, but more

16:11

his opinion goes his approval rating goes up. And that's because Americans have a

16:17

central, you know, a sense of fairness, and everyone, I don't

16:21

know if you're a Democratic, Republican, independant, everyone knows these are sham

16:23

lawsuits. They're being driven by politics. And you know, come on,

16:27

let's let's let the American people decide. We're going to have a big election

16:32

in seven months. You know, everyone knows who Trump is, everybody knows

16:36

who Biden is. Let's let the American people decide. Not a jury.

16:38

Do you think there's any way in New York City, a city that went

16:42

ninety one percent for Biden, can be can have a jury that's fair a

16:47

chance at all. Steve Moore, thank you for joining us. Steve. Of course, chief economis that Freedom Works. Also the one of the founders

16:53

of the Committee to Unleashed Prosperity. It's a great email. You should get

16:56

it every day. And of course a former advice and I think he's helping

17:00

Donald Trump now in advising him on tax and economic issues. If in fact,

17:04

Donald Trump wins in November. All right, more coming out here on

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just look under a podcast. Well, there are a lot of conservatives in

18:03

this country and members of the Republican Party who are thinking what is going on

18:07

with our Republican leaders in Washington. Case in point, he had a ninety

18:11

five ninety six billion dollar aid package approved over the weekend, agreed to upon

18:18

by some Republicans in the House and some Republicans in the US Senate. The

18:22

aid package would give about sixty one billion dollars to Ukraine, the rest of

18:27

the money going to Israel and to Taiwan. Nowhere in that bill does it

18:33

say we are going to cut this program or reduce spending on this program to

18:37

help pay for that. We are just spending and spending and spending. So

18:41

where on earth are the Democrats? Well joining us on our newsmaker line to

18:44

talk about it right now. It's Steve Cortez. Steve is the founder of

18:47

the League of American worker, Steve, Great to be with you tonight.

18:49

I guess Steve. The Democrats have a brand news speaker. His name is

18:55

Mike Johnson. What on earth ever happened to Mike Johnson's date, boy,

19:00

It is a mystery, truly. All I can say is this that he

19:03

is not a man of his word, even though he of course claims to

19:06

be, and even though he constantly speaks almost as if he's a preacher.

19:10

He touts his Christian faith. But if there's anything very Christian or just remotely

19:14

admirable about promising one thing and then within a period of just weeks, you

19:19

know, days, really going completely back on your word and delivering the opposite.

19:22

He promised that any foreign aid as a precondition must include defenses for the

19:30

United States border, funds and laws necessary. Well, actually we have all

19:33

laws of the book, but the application of laws and funds necessary to adequately

19:38

protect our own border, which has been completely overrun. I was actually there

19:42

just last week. It is an absolute chaos. Unfortunately, law enforcement there

19:48

is scramming to do the best they can. But rather than defend America's border,

19:52

he turned his back on his own promise, turned his back on his own party caucus. The majority of his caucus did not vote for him.

19:57

You know, think about that. A speaker House, who's who's effectively becoming

20:00

the Democrat speaker in many ways. And he delivered for Ukraine, but not

20:06

for the United States. Why do you think Steve he capitulated? Why did

20:11

he why did he go in? Yeah, let me give you the the

20:15

the less cynical answer first, and then that is this that you know he

20:18

because he openly talked about the security briefing that he got. And I think

20:22

the intelligence community is very sly about doing this. You know, they will,

20:26

you know, quite on purpose, take a naive man, and I

20:29

think he is a well intentioned but very naive man, and they will,

20:33

they will scare him quite frankly, and they will tell him things that may not be true, and they will concoct a grand sort of scheme where the

20:40

fate of Ukraine, of the Eastern Russian speaking province of Ukraine is somehow inextricly

20:44

linked to the security of the United States. That's of course a fallacy,

20:48

but I'm sure they're very skilled at doing it, and they're presented in such

20:51

a way where, in a propaganda sense, it seems condensing, and I

20:55

don't think he has the personal metal to stand up against that, and he

20:59

doesn't have the kind of life experience and political experience. And say, wait a second, I'm being played here by the Washington policy foreign policy establishment.

21:06

But let me also give you more cynical explanation, which is certainly possible.

21:08

And I have no evidence of this. This is pure speculation, but it's

21:11

not unreasonable. Speculation. Is that he is somewhow compromised, meaning that the

21:15

intelligence community, or media or somebody has something that is incredibly embarrassing about him.

21:21

Now again I don't know that to be true, but it is so absurd and so brazen the way he flipped so quickly, just absolute one eighty.

21:30

You know, I promise you this to exactly the opposite direction in a

21:33

really short period of time that it makes you at least scratch your head and

21:37

say, wow, there more than meets the eye here. But so those

21:41

are my you know, less cynical and more cynical esplanation. Either way,

21:45

it's it's just a terrible betrayal of voters of his own caucus. I mean,

21:49

you know, look, there's something that has been almost a rule of

21:52

speakers of both parties, that you know, you do not as a speaker

21:56

advance a bill. You don't advance assoslation where you don't don't believe you have

22:00

the majority of your own caucus, because then you're effectively acting as the oppositions

22:03

speaker rather than your own And the fact that he did this anyway, and

22:07

did it with impunity and got, you know, lavishly praised by all the

22:11

corporate media, that alone, by the way, should have told him that

22:15

he was on the wrong course when he was getting so much praise before these

22:18

votes from the likes of CNN and Morning Joe and Washington Post, and of

22:22

course after the votes even more so, that alone should should should render judgment

22:29

upon you, and it should serve as a warning to you that, boy,

22:32

we're heading down the wrong path here. If I'm attracting these kinds of

22:34

allies, right, these kinds of people who are hell bent on the destruction

22:38

of the United States don't care, by the way, that we don't have

22:41

this money. That's the other aspect. Even if these were good ideas,

22:44

which I think they're certainly not okay, But even if this spending was a

22:47

good idea, we don't have the money we had to borrow, this money,

22:51

this mountain of money to send overseas, almost one hundred billion dollars.

22:56

Do you know what we could do with one hundred million dollars on our own southern border. I mean, we could secure it several times over for that

23:03

fee, for that amount of money that we are borrowing to send overseas to

23:07

escalate a war that I believe has no strategic significance to the United States.

23:11

Steve, By the way, I like your more cynical look. I think

23:15

that's much more entertaining than your a less cynical look at all of this,

23:18

Steve. The question I have, and I've thought about this for a while.

23:22

Nancy Pelosi when she was Speaker of the House, everyone followed her beat.

23:26

I mean, there wasn't a Democrat who dared stemp out line. But

23:29

we've seen with Kevin McCarthy and now with Mike Johnson. Why can't the Republican

23:33

Party act like the majority when they have the majority? Very slim right now,

23:37

but why can they not act like the majority? Steve Well, I

23:41

will say part of that, as harsh as I'm being on on the speaker

23:45

right now, Spear Johnson, part of of that aspect of that dynamic that

23:48

you're talking about is actually a compliment to our side. What I mean by

23:52

that is because we act on principle. We were not like the Democrats who

23:56

have become effectively a Marxist party, and I'm not exactly when I say that,

23:59

and like Marxis, so I mean, the Bolsheviks believe in party unity

24:02

above all, right, above even principle. So even when the Democrats disagree,

24:04

which they certainly do, right, there's a lot of different disagreements between

24:08

you know, there are still some relatively modest moderate Democrats, and then the

24:12

ilhana Omars and the Aocs of the party, they certainly have disagreements, okay,

24:17

ideologically, however, they place party discipline above all, you know,

24:21

as all hardcore leftists and Marxists do in the world. So there is a

24:25

you know, it is a bit of a compliment to our side that at times we can be disputatious. Now, having said that, there is also

24:32

a time even on our side, right when party unity isn't imperative, and

24:36

I believe it would come from better leadership. That's the thing. It would

24:40

come from better leadership. And listen, let me also say this President Trump,

24:42

who I very much support, who I've endorsed wholeheartedly, I can to

24:47

help win. I wish he got involved in this fight. And I know

24:49

he has a million things going on that are unjust. He's being persecuted in

24:55

New York City right now. But I wish he'd gotten involved ahead of time because seen where Johnson was going, I think he could have rescued this.

25:00

Hopefully, any future such Embroilio, he will become involved. Steve Vourte,

25:06

Steve, thanks for joining us, founder of the League of American Workers,

25:08

talking about the Surrender Republican special announcement coming up in about twenty minutes from now,

25:14

So you want to keep tune here on the rod Ar Kinchow and Utah's

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25:32

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25:36

that following our news update with Abby at the top of the hour. So we invite you to do so. Very interesting announcement coming your way, and

25:42

it's kind of shake things though. Let me just take you what people are

25:45

going to go what what's going on here? We'll talk about that with our

25:48

guests coming up at about five oh five. Right now, we'd like to

25:52

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number five right now if you'd like to pick up those four tickets eight eight

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eight five seven zero eight zero one zero. Well, Bill Barr is doubling

26:56

down on his support for Donald Trump. Of course, the other day we

27:00

aired at sound bite with the former Attorney general saying between the two, he'd

27:03

take Trump any time. Well, he did it again yesterday. He was

27:07

on Fox Business Channel. Here's what he had to say about the upcoming race

27:11

and vice president Harris. Well, I've said, yeah, the choice now

27:15

is a binary choice between these two candidates. Of the two, I support

27:19

President Trump, and one of the reasons is because I think many of our

27:25

critical problems, including the regulation crime, restoring law and order, restoring control

27:32

over our borders, rebuilding our defense in this increasingly dangerous world, standing by

27:37

our allies. I trust President Trump to do that much more so than President

27:45

Biden, I think, and I also worry very much that in the batting

27:51

circle with Joe Biden as Vice President, Kamala Harris, I feel that under

27:56

these circumstances, the Republicans have to win in November. Boy, I tell

28:00

you what, Donald Trump and whoever he selects as the vice PRESIDENTI or candidate,

28:06

I hope they hammered the daylights out of the fact that if Joe Biden

28:08

becomes president. Most likely he won't make it for four more years, be

28:12

highly unlikely. And guess it's right behind him in the batting cage is Kamala

28:17

Harris. And are we ready for that as a country? I would certainly

28:21

hope not. Oh, by the way, remember a couple of years ago when Michelle Obama came out and said, I'm going to tell you moms what

28:27

you should put in your children's lunches. Right, Well, apparently the Biden

28:32

administration is not giving up. School meals will soon contain less salt and less

28:37

sugar, but still can include chocolate milk under new nutrition guidelines released by the

28:41

Biden administration. The AGG Department announced that it has finalized the regulation it first

28:47

proposed back in twenty twenty three, having weakened several provisions after feedback from food

28:52

company and school nutrition officials and over one hundred and thirty six thousand public comments.

28:59

For crying out loud, can the federal government just stay out of every

29:03

aspect of our life? They're now telling us what our children are going to

29:07

be eating at school and what you the moms and dads, should put in

29:11

their school lunch. All right, We're just what not five minutes away,

29:15

ten minutes away. Listen, very special announcement coming up here on the rod

29:19

ar Kentry. Hey too, to involve the National Guard. I think that

29:33

would be pretty well, it's gonna be overkill, I would say. But

29:37

the deadline for the negotiation, and can you believe at the university president is

29:44

negotiating by the man why it's wild? Yeah, So you know the negotiations

29:51

that my husband said at eight am tomorrow, and so we'll have to see

29:55

whether that gets postponed, whether they reach an agreement, or whether the universe

30:00

precedent decides to send into NYPD again to clear the encampment. So we really

30:04

don't know. What I think will happen is that you know, she'll give

30:07

them a day and then you know, she she sent a message. She

30:11

called it alternative solutions, the clearing the encampment instead of leaving voluntarily. So

30:18

we'll have to see how that stays out. Well, she even negotiated,

30:21

and I wonder Jonah's great chatting with you. Good luck to you and appreciate

30:25

you joining us tonight here on the rod Arcut Show. Welcome back to the

30:33

Rod our Ken Show with you on this Thursday and Utah's Talk Radio one oh

30:37

five nine Kate and r As live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You know,

30:41

there's so many issues that are going to I think dominate the campaign,

30:47

which is what six seven months away now. Certainly the economy, certainly immigration,

30:56

certainly about foreign policy. There are other issues as well. Another issue

31:00

that is going to dominate is crime in America. There are a lot of

31:03

people who feel our streets are no longer safe. The media is out there,

31:07

of course, saying crime is going down. Well, you shouldn't believe

31:11

it. That's recording my next guest, John Lott. John, of course

31:15

frequent guests and the show, good guy, president of the Crime Prevention Research

31:18

Center. He's out with an op ed piece today in the Wall Street Journal

31:23

saying the decline in reported crimes is a function of less reporting, not less

31:29

crime. John, Welcome to the show. What are your thoughts on crime

31:32

in America right now? John, Well, basically, it's the reporting that's

31:36

going on now with regard to crime. There have been a lot of headlines

31:41

and newspapers and other media that said, look, crime is falling, but

31:45

people seem to believe the crime violent crime is going up, and so the

31:51

people are just wrong about this. And what I try to argue and the

31:55

piece is that the media just doesn't understand crime statistics very well. There's well,

32:05

they're out there and the civilians have a better clue about what's happening with

32:09

violent crime. And we have to understand is that there are two measures of

32:15

crime. There's the FBI Uniformed Crime and pools that's counting the number of crimes

32:22

that are reported to pools. And then you have the National Crime Victimization Survey,

32:28

which surveys about two hundred and forty thousand people each year, and the

32:31

point of that is to try to get an idea of how many people are

32:38

victims of crime total, both reported and unreported to the police. And normally

32:46

those two numbers go up and down together, but that hasn't been happening the

32:52

last few years. They've been going in opposite directions. And the question is

32:59

why. And basically what's happened is and even the FBI data shows this very

33:05

clearly, that there's been plumbting in arrest rates, that law enforcement across the

33:12

country has basically fallen apart. If you look at cities with over a million

33:20

people, for example, the arrest rate in the five years before COVID in

33:27

twenty fifteen to twenty nineteen was basically flat for violent crime, forty four percent

33:34

of violent crime results in arrest. As soon as twenty twenty started and it

33:39

started to fall and by twenty twenty two it was down to twenty percent.

33:45

That's twenty percent of reports resulting arrest. If you look at reported, only

33:58

about eight percent of crimes results in arrest, and only about one percent of

34:04

property crimes results in arrest. And just because you're arrested doesn't mean the person's

34:09

charge, It doesn't mean that they're convicted. And so what you see,

34:16

and people who deal with crime data have known mean is that if people don't

34:24

take people are going to be caught and punished. They don't bother reporting crimes

34:30

to police as much. John, let me ask you this, with these

34:37

arrest rates being down, does that mean police aren't doing their job anymore?

34:42

Does that mean police, you know, they're hamstrung, they can't do their

34:45

job anymore? What's going on with law enforcement and these arrest rates? John

34:51

Well? I think it's a combination of different things, and that varies across

34:54

places. But obviously you've had drops the number of police officers. You've had

35:01

a lot of retirements among older police officers who have kind of a lot of

35:07

the institutional knowledge that's there about how to do it. You've also had a

35:13

lot of demoralization the police. You know, they say they go and arrest

35:16

people and the people are instantly let go. Again that the district attorneys refuse

35:22

to prosecute those criminals, and so a lot of times they think, you

35:28

know, what's the point of arresting these guys, and so all those things

35:35

go to do it. But you've had you know, in twenty twenty,

35:39

you had places like in New York City cut its police budget by billion dollars

35:45

a year twenty twenty just alone, you had Chicago cut the number of police

35:50

officers by four hundred positions. And you know, you've seen that across the

35:57

country. And of course people know about these sorrows back district attorneys these across

36:04

the country who are just refusing to charge people even when they are arrested for

36:09

the crimes that they committed. You know, John, one of the more

36:14

interesting points that you make was about this recent I think it was done by

36:17

Rasmus and report, and it said that people who are earn more than two

36:22

hundred thousand dollars a year don't think crime is getting worse, but everybody else

36:27

does. John, That's kind of interesting to see, right. Basically,

36:31

there's two groups of people that don't think crime is going doing worse. They

36:38

think it's okay, and they're pretty similar groups. There are people who make

36:44

over two hundred thousand dollars a year and people who went to graduate school.

36:49

Obviously there's a lot of overlap between those groups people. The poorer you are,

36:57

the less education you have, the worse you I think the crime has

37:01

gotten over the last few years. So I'll just give you an example of

37:06

the difference in these numbers. Between twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two,

37:10

the FBI Crime Reports showed that there was a two percent drop in violent crime.

37:19

The National Crime Victimization data show that violent crime increased by an incredible forty

37:24

two percent. Wow, So we've never had look I've looked at this data

37:34

for decades. You've never seen this lull of arrest rates for these crimes.

37:40

You've never seen this big of a change in just a few years. There's

37:45

never been even over twenty years, you haven't seen changes like this, and

37:49

things like a rest rates, and just the rate that people aren't reporting crime

37:53

to the police has surged in just the last few years. People are just

37:59

not outhering report crimes to the police, and so we have this big increase

38:04

in crime, but the reported crime numbers, which is all that the media

38:08

relies on, and look, the media does other things, so they'll go

38:12

and say murder has gone down and murder doesn't have the same recording problems that

38:19

other crimes do, though murders only make up about one percent of violent crime.

38:23

But what they don't do they compare the change to what it was in

38:29

twenty twenty when there was this huge spike and murder. They don't compare it

38:32

to the year before. They don't for some reason, all these news articles

38:37

that you see on the changes and murder rates don't compare it in twenty nineteen

38:43

or twenty eighteen, and you know that raises I don't know why the media

38:51

just refuses to look at before. And if you take the murder data for

38:55

twenty twenty twenty three, it's still it's fell and it was a large draw,

39:02

but it wasn't large enough to offset the huge increase. You had between

39:07

twenty nineteen and twenty twenty. It's still like seven point four percent higher than

39:14

the murder rate was in twenty nineteen. John Lott, John, thanks for

39:19

joining us. He's president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. Talking about the

39:23

media out there claiming that crime is down, he says, look a little

39:27

deeper at the statistics. No, it's not all right. More coming up

39:30

here on the rod Ar Ketcho on rod Our Catcho on this Thursday evening right

39:35

here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs, The rod Ar cat

39:59

Show on Talk Radio one oh five to nine knrs, Final half hour the

40:07

rod Our Catchow. It is Thursday. We're almost nearing the end of April,

40:10

if you can believe that. Just another program reminder that coming up on

40:15

Saturday, we've got a very special edition of Wingman Wednesday. On Saturday,

40:20

Greg and I, we are going to be broadcasting live from the Utah State

40:24

Republican Party Convention at the Salt Palace. A lot going on. Would be

40:28

interesting to see the reaction from the announcement today by Mike Lee here on the

40:31

program just about an hour and a half ago and announcing that he is endorsing

40:37

Colby Jenkins as the Republican nominee in Utah's second congressional district. Currently, that

40:42

is the seat held by Celeste Malloy. She won that seat a short time

40:46

ago, just last fall, as I recall, replacing Chris Stewart had decided

40:51

who had decided to step down and Celeste was elected. But she knows she

40:58

had to run again. She's running again, and this time Utah Sunder Mike

41:00

Lee, as he indicated, breaking from tradition, is endorsing Colby Jenkins in

41:06

utah second Congressional District. And we'll have all the reaction to that coming up

41:10

in our broadcast on Saturday. You know, it's funny to see how federal

41:15

appeals courts in this country can twist and turn things that would allow boys in

41:21

girls sports, such as the case in a case involving a boy in girls

41:25

sports. It happened in the US Court of Appeals for the Fourth District when

41:30

the court there overturned a lower court decision and struck down West Virginia's Save Women's

41:37

Sports Act, a law that keeps scholastic sports in the state separated by biological

41:42

sex. Let's dig into this more. Joining us on our newsmaker line right

41:45

now is Sarah Parshall. Perry is with the She is a senior legal fellow

41:50

at the Heritage Foundation. Sarah, thanks for joining us tonight here on the

41:52

rod Arkent Show. Thanks for having me, Sarah. How did they twist

41:57

and turn this one to justify them strike down the law? Well, this

42:01

is a panel that was bound by a previous decision and a case bo Gavin

42:07

Braham versus Gloucester County school Board, And in that case it was determined that

42:10

a transgender identified female so she identified as a male but was biologically female,

42:20

was allowed to use the bathroom of her choice. Now, unfortunately, federal

42:23

appellate courts are bound by the precedent of that particular circuit. And this panel

42:30

surprised me because two were Trump appointees, one with a Bush forty three appointee.

42:37

And it surprised me to a great extent because what I realized was that

42:42

even though they are duty bounds generally to follow the precedent of their circuit,

42:47

federal appellate court judges bill have to read the law as written. And the

42:52

fact of the matter is West Virginia's fairness and women's sports set is fairy cut

42:59

and dry. It comports with Title nine before Biden's manipulation, and honestly,

43:05

this should have been a slammedunk victory for West Virginia. So basically saying,

43:09

Sarah, basically what the court is saying, there's no difference between a biological

43:15

girl and a man who thinks he's a girl. There's no difference between him.

43:19

Is that what the court is basically saying. That's exactly what they're saying.

43:22

And quite frankly, this is one option at this point, and we

43:25

know that the Attorney's Alliance differending Freedom Gore representing among the Attorney General Solicitor General

43:31

for the state of West Virginia, are thinking about an appeal to the Supreme

43:36

Court and what would be considered its emergency docket. Okay, we also call

43:38

this the rocket docket. This is how it gets up to the Supreme Court

43:43

on an interlocatory position in which they want immediate relief so that things can happen

43:47

now at the trial level when it gets kicked back down. I'm not sure

43:52

whether or not the Supreme Court is going to take a case like this,

43:54

because it seems like it's fairly allergic at this point to genderateity related issues.

44:00

However, there are four cases specifically implicating gender identity issues, civil rights and

44:07

constitutional protections coming out of three different states at the Supreme Court. So it's

44:14

only a matter of time until the federal courts are going to have to wrestle

44:17

with this. And now the entire checkerboard of pieces here has gotten thrown completely

44:24

into chaos because what we're seeing now, as you know, is a new

44:29

title line rules for the Biden administration taking exactly the position that bpj's council took

44:35

in this case, which is Title NIND doesn't just prevent sex discrimination, but

44:40

it prevents discrimination based on sexual orientation, pregnancy or related characteristics, and gender

44:47

identity or gender expression. Well, that's never how the law has been read.

44:52

It's been around fifty two years. And then, seeing I believe the

44:57

writing on the wall, West Virginia went ahead and enact this Fairness and Women's

45:00

Supports Act specifically because they anticipated a challenge like this, and they were absolutely

45:06

right. As you point out in your article in the Daily Signal about this.

45:09

The boy is identified as PBJ. He's a boy in middle school.

45:14

He beat female competitors in over one hundred track meets more than two hundred and

45:19

eighty times. Well, he was on puberty blockers. Doesn't that bust the

45:22

myth that boys on hormones have no advantage over biological females. Sarah, That's

45:29

exactly it. And we keep hearing from progressives that these sort of young adolescents

45:34

pre proveessence adolescents, specifically young males, do not have an athletic advantage over

45:39

biological females. But the fact that this young man who was in middle school

45:45

beat his female competitors over one hundred times while on puberty blockers and prospect hormones,

45:52

it really does sort of blow up the less narrative that there's really no

45:57

advantage here. No, no, no, no, there was advantage and

46:00

you were even on hormones, and the advantage was essentially indisputable, which we

46:07

know to be the case. Physiological distinctions matter, the distinctions which we male

46:12

and female, from muscle memory to bone density, to wingspan to lung capacity

46:17

to quick muscle twitch response, all of those are superior in biological males,

46:22

and those distinctions begin to identify themselves at the ages of ten or eleven.

46:29

Sarah, what kind of a reaction are you hearing from you know, girls

46:34

in middle school, girls in high school. The parents of these girls in

46:37

reacting to see what's taking place there, they've just got to be totally upset

46:40

and probably throwing their you know, the hands up in the air and say,

46:44

what do we do now? We don't have any choices. Well,

46:46

we actually saw a middle school girls track team against whom this young man competed

46:53

go to the next event and walk off the fields. They all took their

46:58

starting block marks, they stood up and they walked off the field and protest.

47:01

These young women, twelve thirteen year old girls, they've got a lot

47:06

of kutsbah. They've really got steel spines to be able to say, listen,

47:10

if we don't run, if we don't hurdle, if we don't put

47:15

the shot, we honestly have an opportunity to make a mark on this argument.

47:21

No one is standing up at the federal level. We are being sued

47:25

at the state level. It's our opportunity to either stand up and give up

47:30

the exact same sport that brought us into stilastic athletics in the first place,

47:34

or to essentially go in debilitated knowing that they're going to lose. It's an

47:38

untenable choice. You know, I really wonder, Sarah, what was going

47:42

through that young man who thinks he's a young girl. What was going through

47:45

his mind when he saw these girls walk off and say, you know what,

47:47

we aren't going to compete against you because we just don't think it's fair.

47:51

I wonder what that young man thinks. Well, after one hundred victories

47:55

over biological girls, probably it's probably not too hard to anticipate that in some

48:02

fourts the girls are going to go. You know what, We're tired of

48:05

being vested by somebody who is physiologically different from us. We don't have the

48:08

benefit of title lines protections. We now don't have the benefit of the West

48:13

Virginia Sports Ax. We're just going to get off the blocks and we're going

48:15

to leave. So at least at the very minimal effect we have, we

48:21

can say that we've made a statement. Boy, they sure have. Sarah, great chatty with you, Thank you for your time, Thanks for having

48:27

me all right on our news micer line that Sarah Parsiell Perry Sperry. Of

48:30

course, Perry, I should say, wrote a terrific article about this strange

48:35

case in Virginia. Folks, when is the ininceney going to stop? You

48:38

know, you've got judges who now say, oh, there's no difference between

48:42

a girl, a biological girl and a guy who thinks he's a girl and

48:45

is taking hormone blockers. That will level the playing field. Well, it

48:50

certainly didn't in this case. Again, here's what happened with this boy.

48:52

He's in middle school. He's been identified only as PBJ. He competed in

49:00

over one hundred track events and more than two hundred and eighty times he won.

49:05

He was on puberty blockers. More coming up on The rod Ar Kent

49:08

Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine kN ar S final a few

49:22

minutes of the rod Ar Kenthow with You on this Thursday? And Utah's Talk

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coming you away following the news update at the top of the hour.

49:34

Then it's Ground zero with Clyde Lewis, and then Coast to Coast with George

49:37

Nori. That will keep you company and a companion throughout the evening. Right

49:42

here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k and R all right,

49:46

a couple of other things. We didn't get a chance to delve into some

49:51

polling information that is out today, but this is from Bloomberg. Sorry,

49:55

I almost lost all my information on this. The latest pulling on the rematch

50:00

between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is stunning. Trump is being prosecuted in a

50:07

show trial circus, Sarah Manhattan. Okay, that serious observers know as both

50:13

complete nonsense and other disgrace, but that doesn't stop the Democrats from pushing on

50:19

this. On top of this, you have the former president subject to a

50:22

gag order. He's also obliged to be in court four out of the five

50:27

days a week, and therefore he cannot campaign in the very important swing states.

50:31

Right Well, this poll shows that despite all of this, this was

50:36

pretty amazing, Trump is in fact surging in the swing states. According to

50:40

the Bloomberg numbers, Trump's lead increasing to seven and eight points in Arizona and

50:47

Noveda, respectively, and to an astonishing, astonishing ten points in North Carolina.

50:57

So let's see him up by seven in Arizona, up by eight in

51:00

Nevada, up by ten in North Carolina, all very very important swing states.

51:07

Trump is up in Michigan by six points, Wisconsin now by four points.

51:13

Biden does lead in Michigan by two points, but that's in the margin

51:16

of a margin of AirLand. And when Trump names any solid running mate,

51:22

his momentum is only going to increase. I mean, these numbers are absolutely

51:25

stunning as to what's going on. So here you have Joe Biden finally out

51:30

in campaigning, going to the important swing state, spending almost every day in

51:34

Pennsylvania, I think anymore. And the polls show that while Donald Trump is

51:37

sitting there in court, borders can be I don't blame him. He probably

51:42

is in this circus like trial. He is gaining momentum. What do you

51:46

think is going to happen when he gets out on the campaign trail? Do

51:50

you hear the construction workers in New York today channing Trump Trump Trump? Pretty

51:54

amazing to watch? All right? That doesn't for us tonight, head up,

51:58

shoulders back, may go. God bless you and your family in this great country of ours. Thanks for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow with

52:05

a brand new edition of the Rod arquetco On. Thank Rod It's Friday.

52:07

We'll talk to you then