In this episode, Justin picks back up his conversation with Dr. Dustin Benac to talk more about how churches and ministries can move through difficult times in ways that build people up and strengthen communities. Specifically, Dustin talks about several different types of gifts and personalities that people have who can support this community growth and how leaders can find those people and encourage them in their roles.

He talks more about his dissertation research at Duke Divinity School in which he looks at the ministry of The Parish Collective and the Office of Church Engagement with the frame of organizational theory in mind, so this might be an ideal episode for folks trying to figure out the best way to tighten the relationships in their organizations in ways that also reach out to fulfill your organization's mission.

Some of Dustin's work can be found here, here, and here. You can also find Dustin on Twitter @dustindbenac.