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KANG & High Evolutionary FORMER ALLIES? | Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania

KANG & High Evolutionary FORMER ALLIES? | Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania

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KANG & High Evolutionary FORMER ALLIES? | Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania

KANG & High Evolutionary FORMER ALLIES? | Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania

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In early twenty twenty, best friends Brian

0:03

and Hadley set out on a mission. With

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whole podcast of things. Easy. Easy.

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Inexpensive. Easy. You

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make a ton of

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money. The

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result, a mediocre comedy

0:13

podcast. You're

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telling me there's a chance.

0:15

I'm telling you there's a chance.

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By Lindsey Dewey. A for effort

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you do. A for

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effort.

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What's the

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top of rainbow?

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The commercial break on Spotify. Tune

0:27

it in, and ride it out. Welcome

0:30

back to Rockstars. And with this week being

0:32

a big week for both am guardian

0:34

to the Galaxy Volume three. What if I told you

0:36

that these two big baddies could have

0:39

a lot more in common than you think? What if

0:41

I told you that Herbert and Kain

0:43

were actually two black brothers from

0:45

another mother. This is real fearing the show where he pitched

0:47

the wildest series from the Nurti tells that we love name

0:49

is MT and going well with me today is

0:51

the lovely and amazing desert

0:53

climate. What's going on, Joe?

0:55

My cat just took poop in a litter box --

0:57

Yeah. -- it is wafting into my

1:00

office. Right? So if you see me doing

1:02

this -- Oh. -- it's not because I don't think

1:04

you're

1:04

funny. It's because I can taste

1:06

my cast.

1:07

No. It's okay. I I'm used to that gesture

1:10

for women when when I approached the just

1:12

like, to

1:14

sing before.

1:16

And the wickedly talented

1:19

and hilarious Whitney Van Leningham is with

1:21

us. What's going on of

1:22

me. Hi.

1:22

Oh my god. I've always wanted to be introduced just

1:25

like a devil's dream. That's perfect.

1:28

The wicked little talent And,

1:31

of course, it's my brother, Bradenberg. What's

1:33

going

1:34

on, Brandon? Hello, MT. I mean, you

1:36

bring up Adelezim, John

1:38

Trevalta's famous flub. Did you guys see his Super

1:41

Bowl

1:41

commercial? Yes. That's not

1:43

real. Right? That's a fake beer. Right?

1:45

I like his bald head. Exactly.

1:47

The bald head's fine. But let the beard go.

1:49

Let the beard look so strange. I said

1:51

go. It's so dark. It didn't

1:53

seem bleak. Terry Cruz phase.

1:56

Okay. As m t for as m

1:58

t phase. How dare

2:01

you? How

2:02

dare you tell me how? We just

2:04

try to baby like, yo. Like, sort of, like,

2:06

III sort of put myself in John Trembols'

2:09

position because I just love Zach

2:11

Rapp and Donald phase on so

2:12

much. Also, like, like,

2:14

pretending to be scrubs.

2:16

You literally fed into what they did in that commercial.

2:18

There is no point for those two to be in that commercial.

2:20

There is no reason for either of them

2:22

to be there, but I love Scruggs. Yeah.

2:24

I love Scruggs. So it's literally what the

2:26

probably the best TV show

2:29

ever is my

2:29

opinion. I just love that show.

2:31

Whoa. Shotts fired at breaking

2:33

bad. No. Hospital TV show. I forgot

2:35

to say Oh, okay. Hospital TV. I lost

2:37

That's fired at Saint elsewhere. But

2:39

speaking about we're talking about

2:41

some really smart dog people with Rockstars

2:44

degrees because kang in the high

2:46

evolutionary are very

2:48

too smart black people that came from

2:50

Earth, but I feel like these

2:52

two have known each other in the past.

2:54

And the king of the high evolutionary have

2:57

works together. And here's why. I

2:59

feel like, you know, with Kang

3:01

being this person that, like, is so

3:03

interested in Earth's past,

3:05

especially like we know from concept

3:07

arc that, like, he had an Ironman element,

3:09

and, like, he just is very, like,

3:12

into, like, the the the scientific

3:14

achievements of the past. I feel like

3:17

Kang would go back and visit

3:19

the high evolutionary, the smartest

3:21

man with like, he is the smartest

3:23

man with evolution genetics. And

3:25

with cybernetics, like, he made

3:27

all of these people and with robot

3:29

body parts essentially. So this guy is,

3:31

like, essentially, a Tony Stark level

3:33

person. And I feel like there was a a pretty

3:35

good chance that Cain could have gone back to either

3:37

confront or fight or

3:39

work together with the the high

3:42

of with the high evolutionary. In

3:44

the past. What do you guys think about this? Like, do

3:46

you think that Kang wouldn't be interested in

3:48

making, like, an animal army? Because,

3:50

like, that's what the high evolutionary essentially as.

3:53

I think that's why I think it's more of a variant

3:55

of king because I think it'd be

3:57

more interesting that, like, if every

3:59

king had, like, their

4:01

niche. This one Casey's was

4:04

taking animals and trying to make them

4:06

into

4:06

life. He's

4:07

like, wanna conquer. I just wanna make animal

4:09

animal dudes. Yeah.

4:10

I don't wanna circus, man. Physically

4:12

sit from Toy Story, but

4:14

he meets their events

4:15

on raccoon. Like, that

4:17

is that is essentially the high of

4:19

which there. He is sent from Toy Story. Baby.

4:21

And then this kang is just, like, he was Sid's

4:23

neighbor, and he was like, you know

4:25

what? That looks fun. And he decided

4:27

to go back in time and help him make freaky

4:29

little animal. You bring up a really interesting

4:31

point. Empty because I I'm

4:33

curious to see how our boy Herbert gets

4:36

off of Earth and like gets into space

4:38

and gets, you know,

4:40

all the hour that he has because it seems like

4:42

from the trailer for Guardians. Right?

4:44

The world that he was building there with the animal

4:46

people, it looks like very late

4:48

eighties or early nineties earth

4:50

between the cars and, like, the the fashion

4:53

and stuff. And it's like, if he's only been in

4:55

space for, like, forty years or something,

4:57

like, how did he get from

4:59

there to there? Like, who gave him this power?

5:01

And it wouldn't make sense that, like, Kang would do it.

5:03

Because if Kang is aware, of the high

5:05

evolutionary. He's either gonna we

5:07

know the way King works, he either stops them,

5:09

or he, like, lets them do what they're doing because

5:11

it benefits him in some way. So

5:14

it would make sense that he was like, I

5:16

know the future and I need this guy to make

5:18

weird animal animal men, animal

5:21

people, because it it gets me

5:23

to my future. Right? Like, when when

5:25

the he who remains who was at Kang was

5:27

running the TVA, he allowed the Avengers

5:29

to do their weird time, high stuff. Because

5:31

it was like, this works out for me. This works out for

5:33

me in the end, so I'm okay with it. So I'll let

5:35

it happen. Plus, they both wear like

5:37

shiny purple outfits, kind

5:39

of. Right? I've had this kind of shiny

5:41

purple outfits. They're the purple bros. But,

5:43

no, I like how you bring up this point about,

5:45

you know, kang wanting the

5:48

high evolutionary to, like, set up,

5:50

like, to, like, using him

5:52

for his of his own hands because, like, I have feeling

5:54

that the high evolutionary could

5:56

potentially Rockstars mutants in

5:58

the or in the cosmos of the MCU. And

6:01

so, like, with more mutants in the in the universe,

6:03

That means more people that can

6:06

be in a

6:06

war. It's like, hey, I feel like Cain just

6:08

wants to fight and like just be in a war.

6:10

He wants chaos. Right? Exactly.

6:13

And, like, if there's no one to fight or to

6:15

keep up with him, because, like, he has this

6:17

huge, like, the suit that can shoot out

6:19

lasers, like, is it gonna be boring? He's just gonna

6:21

be, yeah, I'm just gonna call,

6:22

girl, stop on these people. It's gonna it's not

6:24

gonna be fun. And so I feel like you want this

6:26

challenge. Mhmm. So

6:28

yeah. Exactly. So, like, if I

6:29

hire you Turn your cotton glass. You gotta

6:31

earn knob. Exactly. Like, you

6:33

you can't just be like, yeah, you have a hand no

6:35

handouts. No no no participating

6:38

trophy. Alright? You gotta work for it. Yeah. You

6:40

gotta work work work work work work like a Things

6:43

that

6:43

participation trophies are disgusting.

6:46

Disgusting. Hate the whales.

6:48

And just hates us.

6:51

Literally.

6:51

Don't blame the millennials for participation trophies.

6:53

They weren't given them out. It was the adults give

6:55

them out the

6:56

kids. Exactly. And

6:58

when we were seven years old playing softball,

7:00

we should have known.

7:01

You should have wrote that. No. Thank

7:03

you, adults. I didn't earn this. This. And

7:05

that's what and then and then afterwards, we should've

7:07

said avocado

7:08

toast. And

7:09

that's what which would've been a better

7:12

generation.

7:14

How could you? It would also make sense that

7:16

I like that I did too that Kings like, oh, this is

7:18

another smart guy and I just wanna talk to him because

7:20

we saw like a jokey ride when he

7:22

remains with showing the little figurines

7:24

of king. Right? The first one, guess

7:27

that was him. Was he saying it was him?

7:29

He was dressed like a little scientist. Yeah.

7:31

Yeah. He's dressed like a little scientist with his

7:33

little, like, lab coat and his little glasses

7:35

on his little figurine. And even though it was

7:37

just a little figurine, John, that made just all

7:40

good in, like, a scientist outfit. I was,

7:42

like, okay, my guy. Come on. You didn't look that good

7:44

as a scientist. I think you both did. After

7:46

you became

7:46

king.

7:47

He broke through his little suit, his little his

7:49

little lion's lapsed. He's like, hey,

7:52

person to the back. And

7:53

then he throws me on the table. This is

7:55

my

7:59

I'm sorry didn't happen. It didn't happen. Now, honestly,

8:01

Jonathan majors is so goddamn attractive.

8:04

He really is.

8:05

Unfair. He's the hottest vol

8:07

villain. Like, no questions

8:09

asked.

8:10

Damn. Sorry, Cora stole. As

8:12

yellow jacket on my ass.

8:14

I don't Oh, hell.

8:17

Yeah. I mean, he's looking pretty good

8:19

in this movie in a quantum medium. Let me tell

8:21

you. He's he's is all ahead. Okay.

8:23

Oh, no. no. Oh, no. It is interesting

8:25

though because if, you know, Shirley King,

8:28

the high volitioner is doing some high

8:30

level stuff. No pun intended. Right.

8:33

So, yeah, it's like why would King allow

8:35

it? If not, it it

8:37

has to be like his doing or like

8:39

at least like it

8:41

it helps him in some way. Yeah.

8:43

And I I wonder if he gave him, like, some of the technology

8:46

to, like, Rockstars the whole thing

8:47

to, like, really get going. Mhmm. I

8:50

mean, really interesting to us. I

8:52

think in in

8:54

the comments, King has actually

8:56

helped from like, an outside

8:58

source. I think it was, like, Mailstrom or something.

9:00

Like, like, someone time travels or something. It's, like,

9:02

hey. Use, like, the secret to

9:04

to evolving people. He's, like, oh, thanks. I'll use

9:07

this. Thank you. Thank

9:09

you. It's

9:11

a stranger on the street shows

9:13

up. They say they're from the future, and here's

9:15

how here's how to evolve people. You

9:17

always take that pamphlet. You always

9:19

Oh, you

9:20

take the pamphlet. You take the pamphlet. You

9:21

take the pamphlet. And I feel like

9:24

I feel like Guardian's three is definitely gonna start

9:26

off with a flash back to the eighties like Guardians

9:28

one and Guardians two did, and we're going

9:30

to see how the high evolutionary sort

9:33

of just like took off on his rocket and

9:35

to the moon or to the the moon

9:37

to outer space and

9:40

start off his, like, evolutionary stuff

9:42

in the cosmos. I think that'd be really fun. And

9:45

I think it'd be really cool if, like, we saw during that

9:47

flashback. Kang. He's like, oh, oh,

9:49

look at me. Time to start some problems.

9:51

Here's the formula for evolving

9:53

people because I just had that in my

9:55

drawer because I'm I've just

9:57

I'm really

9:58

old. I mean, I'm looking

9:59

for It's like when Biff Tannen steals

10:01

this sports all day. Exactly.

10:03

Sports all day. But instead, it's

10:06

just kang being, like, here you

10:08

go. Here's here's a pamphlet

10:10

on evolving

10:11

humans. Right? Now is it

10:13

possible? Is it possible that the 616

10:16

is the only universe

10:18

with a high evolutionary. Nice.

10:21

Because if if he who remains is controlling

10:23

the 616, and allowing these things

10:25

to happen that happened up to

10:27

this point. Right? Right. Then

10:31

if if this if every other universe Ken

10:33

killed the high evolutionary because he was not

10:35

he was he was a problem

10:37

for Ken for whatever reason. Like

10:39

616 could be the only one that has a high

10:41

evolutionary that got as far as he got.

10:44

Like, this is the only one where like Herbert has

10:46

flourished perhaps. Do

10:48

we know if the high evolutionary has been to Earth?

10:51

We know in the comics secrets from Earth,

10:53

but --

10:53

Yeah.

10:53

Yeah. -- in the

10:54

comics, but in the MCU, is he actually

10:56

from That's

10:57

like the big question. Right. But the fact that he's making

10:59

a counter Earth that looks like Exactly.

11:02

He would have he would at least have

11:03

to Unless there's another planet that mimics Earth That's

11:05

true. That's true. Or he was a

11:08

an alien who saw Earth and was like, I like

11:10

this. I I wanna copy his

11:11

bio. Look,

11:11

I think, like, the fact that it

11:14

sits His name is Herbert. Like, that

11:16

itself. We don't know it's Herbert. No. We don't know

11:18

it's we don't know if Herbert in the future. This is

11:20

her. We don't know it's her name is a high

11:22

evolutionary, which is not an earth name. Is

11:24

true. But is not an earth is a

11:26

really dorky name, you guys.

11:28

But no. But he also uses

11:31

89P13, which are

11:33

earth numbers and

11:34

letters. So he has Yeah. That's

11:36

true. He's like a earth file. Like, he he loves

11:39

earth. Earth and, like, he's from, like, Quadra

11:41

Parr, some made up planet. But he sees

11:43

earth and he's like, yo, have you guys seen earth? Earth is

11:45

the coolest. I wear earth clothes. I

11:47

use Earth's letters and

11:48

numbers. It's just

11:49

like the Earth's stand. Yeah. I don't

11:51

know what to answer. The inverse

11:53

of that is that what Konda's on Earth

11:55

and doesn't use earth numbers. Right?

11:58

So, like, it's like there's people on earth

12:00

that don't even use earth numbers.

12:02

So That's true. It's I don't know.

12:04

I I'm just saying I'm also saying this

12:06

because I had to make a video recently where I

12:08

was like, I don't think the high evolutionary

12:10

has ever been to earth yet. But -- Oh.

12:12

-- he could have easily

12:14

been. So that's why I'm like, do we know if

12:16

he's been nerds? Because I made a full video on this. And

12:18

now I'm

12:19

this is true. He could easily be a Zandarian or

12:21

something. Like, it's it's true. Like Well, he

12:23

could also have, like, a bit of a Peter Quill

12:26

thing going on where maybe someone in

12:28

his life introduced him to

12:30

or thing things. And then he was, like, shit.

12:32

This is awesome. They have a song called Brandy,

12:34

you're a fine girl. What? And

12:37

then he was, like, I gotta get in on

12:39

this and now he's just like -- Yeah. -- he's a

12:41

big fan boy because he's never been there, but

12:43

he like he's like this is my dream fake occasion.

12:45

Like like when you haven't been to Disneyland yet

12:47

and you and you hype it up in your

12:49

mind, you know, like, maybe

12:51

it's it's like going to France. It's like, oh

12:53

my god. I gotta get the friends. It's so beautiful.

12:56

It's so pretty. It would it

12:58

would be wild if, like because when

13:00

ego was going around, banging

13:03

females across

13:04

the line. Right. And we have to assume that,

13:06

like, he's not just, like, banging

13:08

one female on each planet. Right? He's

13:10

probably he's gotta try his bets around

13:12

little bit to find you're not just gonna pick one

13:14

girl for each

13:15

planet. Right? You're gonna you're gonna

13:18

Yeah. There goes. There's been a couple You gotta put

13:20

a lot out there, sir. I mean, that would be a while

13:22

if her is, like, also a

13:25

child of ego, much like Mantis turned

13:27

out to be. And Lord

13:29

and Herbert

13:30

are, like, half brothers in a weird way.

13:32

Like, that would be great. Stop.

13:34

Crazy stop. Yo.

13:35

That'd be yo. It would be that would be absolutely nuts.

13:37

That would be nuts. Oh my god. That would be such

13:39

a fun surprise. I would love to

13:41

meet you. Nuts one more time.

13:43

Say it would be was he nuts, like,

13:45

baby nuts. Mixed

13:49

nuts. Mixed nuts with

13:51

M and M's and there because that's just

13:53

tasty,

13:53

basically. That's I mean, like, it's the best way

13:55

to have Bixdance. If there's no M and M's in there,

13:58

what's the point? What's the

13:59

point? But no agreement no sexy

14:01

agreement m and m's for the conservative side.

14:04

Yeah. She's

14:04

really

14:05

awesome. Because that's awful, and we

14:07

should be protecting our children. From

14:09

a sexy green

14:10

m and m. How dare they have a sexy green

14:12

m and m hold hand of another woman?

14:15

How dare? Let's vote

14:17

on this the idea

14:19

of Kang and the evolutionary working together

14:21

in

14:21

like, at some point in the MCU because Kang

14:24

is a sneaky some some

14:26

fish. What do you think, Brandon? I

14:28

don't know. This is ROGUS as this is ROGUS

14:30

as hell. Like -- Yeah. -- they have I

14:33

mean, Kang's gotta be aware what this

14:35

high evolution I have is up to. I mean, I know

14:37

he's a busy guy. He's got he's got all of

14:39

time to look at. He's busy.

14:41

He's moving around. He can't even remember who he's killed.

14:43

He's got a lot going on. Right? But

14:45

he's gotta be aware of the high evolutionary. And

14:48

I think I mean, I think they gotta be working together

14:50

in some

14:50

aspect, or at least Ken is letting

14:52

him do his thing. He's not stopping.

14:54

Yeah. He's like, yeah, keep making those weird

14:57

animal freaks I love them. I love them.

14:59

But I do think I do think I like

15:01

the idea that this is

15:03

the only high evolutionary out there. Like, can't

15:05

kill all the other ones. This one was able to

15:07

get as far as he did because he who remains just letting

15:09

him do his thing.

15:11

I do like that ID as well. I'm gonna give

15:13

it a ROGUS and and back up Brandon

15:15

on that one. I think that it's totally possible

15:18

that he killed all the other high evolutionaries

15:20

in every other multi verse. And this one,

15:23

he's like, nah. But this guy makes little

15:25

animals he makes it little animals

15:27

like

15:27

people.

15:28

What do you think? Alright. Two What

15:30

do you think, Jess? Hi, great. I think so.

15:32

I think it makes sense. It sound. I

15:34

like it. Yep. Good

15:37

to go. Although I don't I don't

15:39

have a gun to my I don't have a gun

15:41

to my stomach under my desk right now

15:43

saying to go

15:44

Rolgus. Turn

15:46

the gun to your stomach. What is happening?

15:48

I think it's great.

15:51

Please. Globally sweet. You

15:53

guys. Amazing. You know, I really I took

15:56

to continue on with what Brandon was saying.

15:58

Like, if I I like this idea of paying

16:01

eliminating high voluminaries throughout,

16:03

like, different timelines. Because if you think about it,

16:05

the evolutionary is trying to evolve himself.

16:07

And we see at, like, at some point in the trailer,

16:09

he's floating with his mind. I don't know

16:11

how he's doing that, but he's just like, meditating

16:14

is, like, my evolved to the ultimate life

16:16

or and, like, I think that that is

16:18

a threat to to kang. He's, like, you know what?

16:20

I need to, like, make sure that there's a one version

16:23

of a bio evolutionary that is, like, weaker

16:25

than me. But, like, you know, he ends

16:27

up being defeated by the guardian to the galaxy

16:29

because you know, they take care of him.

16:32

So, yeah, I I like that idea.

16:34

But, like, I I can see them working together at some

16:36

point in the past because I feel like, hang uses

16:38

people because, like like he's using Moerdoc, like

16:40

he's using Scott Lang and his

16:42

family. So I think I think

16:44

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Brandon Barrick. The coolest man

17:55

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17:57

coolest man alive. You'll have to

17:59

kill me to be cooler than me. Yeah.

18:02

Okay. So I have a rogue

18:04

theory for alright. Don't kill me. Oh, hey.

18:06

Hey. This is gonna be using the Court of

18:08

Law. Okay. I

18:10

have a wild rogue theory. It's kind of two

18:12

rogue theories tied into one. So I'll I'll throw and bone

18:14

that to you at the same time. I think that

18:17

the quantum realm was a great place to hide out.

18:19

For people. We've seen that. We've seen there's

18:21

refugees living down there. They gotta they gotta

18:23

find their their spots. But I think there

18:25

could be a a key member

18:27

of the MCU hiding out down there as well.

18:29

And I actually have two candidates for this. Okay?

18:32

Okay. I'm gonna go with my first one first,

18:34

which makes the most sense. My first one

18:37

is a nexus being

18:40

that nose has already transversed

18:42

the multiverse and knows how to do it and wants

18:44

to keep doing it. And needs

18:46

a new way to do it because their previous way

18:48

of transversing the multiverse was

18:50

kind of destroyed. And they're kind of

18:52

on the run. They're hiding a little bit. I'm,

18:54

of course, I am speaking on the

18:57

great, the always good, the never evil

18:59

scarlet witch. Okay, hear me out. We

19:02

saw WonderGorm Mountain get collapsed and we saw

19:04

the red poof. Yeah. I think our

19:06

little baby Wanda Maxim off, she

19:09

poofed her way into the quantum realm because she needs

19:11

to hide right now. Right? People are angry.

19:13

The 838 is really pissed. Okay? They're

19:15

coming for her. People on Earth

19:17

still

19:17

pissed. There's people in New Jersey who are still

19:20

pissed. I get this gonna be coming forward

19:22

too. Right? But she so through

19:24

the

19:24

dark hole

19:25

New Jersey does not count as being part

19:27

of

19:27

No. They're separate. That's so impressive. That's

19:29

really impressive. That

19:30

only you picked up 838, but you also

19:32

picked up New Jersey. That kind of sucks.

19:35

You come for New Jersey. You come for all

19:37

of us. Hey.

19:39

It's more of us. Can't mess with

19:41

Westview. I'm from Eastview. Don't

19:44

mess with West. You. We love them. So, yeah,

19:46

I think she's hiding down there because

19:48

she can't dream walk anymore because she needed

19:51

the dark hold to dream walk. I don't think she had memorized

19:53

the spell. Which also someone memorized this bell.

19:55

Come on. And now that all the

19:57

dark holes are gone, right? Not just the one in 616,

20:00

but all the dark holes were destroyed. That's what we were

20:02

told. The book of Ashanti's destroyed. And

20:05

she wants to be able to hop around in the multiverse

20:07

though. think she found a way to get down there.

20:09

And right now, she's hiding in the quantum realm.

20:11

And that's where she's gonna pop out again. Because she's

20:14

gotta be on the run. She's gotta be hiding, and she knows she

20:16

can't hide on Earth because someone's gonna find her. Doctor

20:18

Strange found her very easily on in her little

20:20

arcade of of pain and chaos. So

20:23

that's that's my first candidate for

20:25

who's hiding in the quantum realm. My second

20:27

candidate Here you go. This is gonna

20:29

be wild one. Alright. You ready? It's a

20:31

man. It's a man. We've been looking for

20:34

we're wondering where he

20:35

is.

20:35

I'm with some link. But go on. It's

20:38

a man who's been infused with

20:40

quantum power from his multiple

20:43

trips through the quantum realm. It's a man

20:45

who doesn't want peace. He wants

20:47

war. He he thrives in war.

20:49

He thrives in the battlefield. I'm

20:51

talking about Captain

20:52

America, dude. I

20:54

think Captain America I think Captain

20:56

America, I knew it. I knew it. Everyone's

20:58

like, where's Captain America? Right? I think he's in the Quantumania.

21:01

And the old man cap we saw at the end of endgame,

21:03

that's like late stage cap. He'll

21:05

get there eventually. But right now,

21:07

he he's hopping around the multiverse.

21:09

Right? We know he went back with Peggy. He had

21:12

that lovely life there. I think he got tired

21:14

of it. Because remember, Bec, in Age

21:16

of Ultron, when Wanda Maximov,

21:18

they she showed every avenger their nightmare.

21:21

Right? His nightmare was a world of peace.

21:23

It was a world where the war was over and he just

21:25

gets to live in peace. And, yeah, he wanted to go

21:27

back to Peggy, you know, he got a

21:29

few good nights out of her and then he was like, tired

21:31

this

21:32

dude. I want my struggle. I want my back.

21:34

Not

21:34

a few good nights out of Peggy. That's

21:36

what I'm talking about real quick. No. That's

21:38

not tied up. Okay. It's great. It's

21:40

fun, but it it gets tired after a while.

21:42

But let's just try out. They call her Peggy.

21:44

Let's just say that. No. I can show you.

21:49

He's

21:49

like, I don't know if I could do this for the rest of my life.

21:52

I can't. I don't know if I can do this all

21:54

day. Yeah.

21:54

Yeah. I can't do this all day. I thought one

21:57

thing that I can't do all day. I think

21:59

I think cap from his multiple

22:01

trips during endgame and going back

22:03

and putting on the stones back, I think his body

22:05

became infused with that quantum energy. We

22:07

saw that happen to Janet.

22:09

Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I think he's

22:11

able to access the quantum realm now

22:14

on his own. And

22:16

he just went back and he's like, I I'm gonna

22:18

keep finding universes where there's hydra and I can

22:20

keep fighting them and all this crazy

22:21

stuff.

22:21

Is he old? Down there. I

22:24

think eventually he gets old, but he's

22:26

able to control his aging.

22:28

Right? Because we saw what happened to Scott

22:30

when time was pushed through

22:31

him. You mean, Benjamin buttoned in front of So

22:34

I

22:34

think you did. I think there's somewhat

22:36

hiding in the Quantumania important to the MCU

22:38

that will be revealed later, and it's either the Scarlet

22:40

Witch or Captain America you're on our arrest my

22:42

case.

22:43

I I like this I like this idea,

22:45

especially with the scarlet witch hanging

22:47

out in the quantum realm and just like just being

22:49

like, hey, I killed a bunch of humans I

22:52

cannot come back. Like, III

22:54

don't

22:55

I can long, Jersey's unknown. I am

22:57

no longer welcome at this waffle house.

22:59

I

23:02

Exactly. Like, she is not invited to any

23:04

waffle house in the multi bird.

23:05

Damn waffle house is good y'all. haven't been there.

23:08

To watch. Right.

23:08

Got it. I've never been to WAPA.

23:10

Oh, yeah. Because the long the lines are too

23:12

freaking long here in LA. Takes you an hour

23:14

to see it.

23:15

Is it good? Who else? Texas,

23:16

there's one on, like, every corner, and I used

23:18

to go there all the time.

23:20

We have just roast gives.

23:21

We only have, like, eyehops around here, which is

23:23

That's

23:23

not a waffle house. That's how

23:25

much.

23:26

That's That is the international house of

23:28

pancakes. That's true. I'm a big pancake

23:30

boy. I love pancakes. Yeah. No. I

23:32

I feel like knowing that

23:34

the quantum realm is sort of the

23:36

gateway to the multiverse. I can also see Wanda

23:39

hanging out there sort of plotting her next

23:41

move now that her plans with America

23:43

Chavez sort of went, you know, upside

23:46

down. So I think that's so great. She's

23:48

yeah. That's so great. So, like, I feel like she could

23:50

prop prop possibly, like,

23:52

be looking for, like, quantum the the place where the

23:54

quantum tunnels are. It's like, alright. Now I basically

23:56

have access to the multiverse now. So I just

23:59

need to pick the right multiverse where

24:01

my children are so I can just steal them

24:03

from their

24:03

wants. Slide right in. Yeah. I

24:06

like that.

24:07

That's what she said. I'm

24:11

only business here. Okay? I come here,

24:13

I do my job. I save my quips, and then I

24:15

leave. So First

24:18

off, I said this exact

24:20

theory, and I liked that theory. But

24:22

my one fault against that theory is does

24:24

it matched too much to what she did in

24:26

multi person madness and Wandavision. And

24:28

when I say that, I love I like captain

24:31

I like the idea of captain America being there more

24:33

than I like one division or one division.

24:35

Okay. But the reason I

24:37

was, like, I think I could see Scarlet Witch being

24:39

there, but I think the only reason people keep playing

24:41

her in the quantum realm is because

24:43

we know the mystic arts people can get in

24:45

there. That doesn't mean that Agatha can't,

24:47

and that doesn't the doctor Strange can't. So

24:49

I can't make more sense for those two than wanted

24:51

to be in there because we're seeing that

24:54

scene of her living on her own in

24:56

the middle of nowhere in one division

24:59

and in multi razor

25:00

madness. Do we really wanna do it a third time in the

25:02

quantum

25:02

world? Yes. All day every day.

25:04

I love you. Or Wanda, please I

25:06

love it too. I just don't wanna see this woman in

25:08

the middle of nowhere going through a deep pray

25:11

love again.

25:11

Sure. Should I don't wanna She

25:14

wants you to learn to

25:15

tell you. You can say it's with Prey in the

25:17

last. It has to be love. Correct. Do we need

25:19

You know what?

25:20

Actually, that is That makes more sense than what

25:22

I said. Yeah.

25:24

When you think about it, like, Wanda is if

25:26

you think of Wanda is still kind of a baby

25:28

witch, I mean, like, she did read baby.

25:30

Yes. She's very new. Like, she she has

25:32

all the dark hold knowledge, but, like, what if the quantum

25:34

realm has, like, its own witches and wizards.

25:37

And,

25:37

like, if they have their own magic and they have their

25:39

own way of doing things. Plus time

25:41

time works so differently down there. She can

25:43

really, you know, she could spend

25:45

a hundred years learning down

25:47

there, but it's a a second up here. Right?

25:49

Exactly. It's like the hyperbolic chamber from dragon

25:51

ball z. It's like,

25:52

I remember So you can't see any

25:55

any of Agatha or Agatha's

25:57

Kevin in the Quantumania instead of

25:59

Wanda. I could see them trying to get down there. I could

26:01

see them accessing it, but Wanda as a

26:03

nexus being. She's more powerful than

26:05

all of them. She could, like, either hide

26:07

herself what they're looking for or, like, push them out,

26:10

like, block their entrance into the

26:12

the the quantum

26:13

realm. Yeah. And quantum realm is

26:15

a nexus of timeline. It's where all the timelines

26:18

seem to meet. It's like the place where you can

26:20

time travel. So, like, it would make sense for a nexus

26:22

being to be in a place where

26:24

all the the nexus I

26:26

mean, I don't think that's a nexus of realities, but like

26:28

it's I think it's close I don't know if it's close.

26:30

Yeah. They were I think the the filmmakers described

26:33

it the the quantum realm as, like,

26:35

the basement of, like, all the multi versus

26:37

rates. It's the foundation on which they're all

26:39

built. So, yeah. Yeah. Maybe her and cap

26:41

are hanging out

26:41

together, powering up together. Yeah.

26:44

Loving each other.

26:45

She's she's done with that robot man. She wants

26:47

a real man. Yep. It'd be crazy

26:50

if cap was down there and he

26:52

like banging one of those weird alien microblades.

26:55

So broccoli?

26:56

We had a kid.

26:57

Oh, no. The broccoli The

26:59

broccoli man? The broccoli man. Yes. The

27:03

we have Captain Brock.

27:04

How many holes do you have, Steve? How

27:07

many holes do you have? How

27:08

many holes do you have? Well,

27:10

like, I I think it'd be really interesting

27:12

if we had, like, a a Captain America

27:14

kid that was from the quantum realm. He's just like

27:16

-- Yeah. -- a half bug. Like, so I'm like a mantis.

27:18

Like, all my I love bug from

27:21

the microdads so much. Like, the microdads dot

27:23

com mix. Bug was actually an original member

27:25

of Star Lord's Guardians of the Galaxy

27:27

team. Okay. But, like, the Bug

27:29

is Hasbro. Bug is, like,

27:31

belongs to the actual micronauts lore,

27:34

so, like, Marlboro cannot use bug.

27:36

But, like, I would be really cool if

27:38

Marlboro studios made like a hybrid bug, it's,

27:40

like, their own version of bug, but make

27:42

it captain America's child. It's like I am

27:44

captain american

27:45

junior, and I have

27:47

a bug mom and Captain America

27:49

Dad. I love how everyone's

27:52

every Avengers child is really cute and pretty,

27:54

and then it's a book for captain for

27:56

her mother. Because

27:59

everyone would expect Captain America's child

28:01

to be the hugest child of all time because

28:03

of, you know, the super to

28:04

zero. So it's just Does it move? Diapers

28:08

or no. Does it

28:10

move? I

28:12

Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch.

28:14

Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch

28:16

Bunch

28:17

Bunch

28:17

Bunch Bunch Bunch

28:18

Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch Bunch.

28:20

Yeah. There's a bunch. Okay. First off,

28:22

don't owls just poop out their mouths? Well,

28:25

no. They they I'll still have, like, a a

28:27

Chloe guy. They they push they

28:29

poop out that stuff. What else what else?

28:31

The cow pellets are the bones in

28:34

the hair that they can't digest. The

28:36

stuff can't digest comes out of the

28:37

mouth. As a pellet. And then the rest comes

28:39

out of of the digestive tract. You

28:41

know, if if if apples will poop it out in their mouths,

28:43

they can, like, poop in, like, three hundred to sixty

28:45

degrees. It's, like,

28:48

Like,

28:48

I'm freaking the, like, sprinkler. Let me just

28:50

test it. Sorry.

28:51

Cholikas are wild. They're they're they're

28:54

really wild. Body fart in nature.

28:56

I I do, like, I like this idea of someone

28:58

hiding out in the quantum realm, whether it's a

29:00

chocolate witch or Captain America. Like, it'd

29:02

be really cool if we saw the ancient one.

29:05

Like, during some time, during her really long

29:07

life, she just chilled in the quantum realm.

29:10

It made me really cool if we saw her.

29:11

Spend the realm. I think

29:14

there's like a non zero chance that she's been

29:16

to the quantum

29:16

realm. I think she did in the

29:19

first in the first doctor strange

29:21

she when he got peek in her

29:22

mind, he saw the quantum realm. Yes.

29:24

I think that, like, during that trippy sequence,

29:27

when they went through that weird light source,

29:29

they went into quantum

29:30

realm. Oh, I like that.

29:31

I think it's only the source of freedom that

29:33

might have

29:34

I do like that's a good idea too that the ancient

29:36

ones down there. That'd be fine. I

29:38

She's not down.

29:39

She's just down there. She's down there. She's down there. She's like, I

29:41

can't give it up. can't quit life. You

29:43

know, like, time travel is just really weird. And,

29:45

like, she hasn't had a really long life she's probably

29:48

went to different levels of existence. So,

29:50

like, maybe, since time works differently

29:52

there, we it's just like a past version of

29:54

hers. It's like, oh, yeah. I don't know that I'm

29:57

I'm gonna die yet. I'm just here

29:59

doing my thing, and I just met someone

30:01

from a different time. But don't

30:04

know. It'd be really fun. I love

30:05

her. I I really like that

30:07

actress because she just did

30:08

everything. She just went in. But alright,

30:10

guys. Let's load up this second rogue

30:13

theory of Brandon's of like,

30:15

what's potentially someone hiding out in the

30:18

whether it be the Scarlet Witch or Captain

30:20

America. But do you think it's ROGUS, BOGUS, or OGUS?

30:22

Take it

30:22

away, Jessica. I think it's I I think there's

30:24

someone in the quantum realm. I agree. I

30:28

I think there is you're not

30:30

gonna explore a a new planet

30:32

or a new world and not put someone

30:34

important in it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

30:37

So Or someone It's like a superhero

30:39

in it. It's like we should see

30:41

someone come out of it and it's not ghosts

30:43

because she technically just got

30:45

exploded with a quantum tunnel. So think

30:48

that part ROGUS. It'd

30:50

be in Captain America or the Scarlet

30:52

Witch, I think, is bogus. But I do think, overall,

30:55

it's a ROGUS.

30:56

That's fair. That's fair. That's fair.

30:58

would love it to be Captain America. I just think Captain

31:00

America's story. I'm kinda like, just let him let

31:02

him

31:02

I want it to be an evil Canada, America, though, it

31:04

turned to it turned to me evil. You

31:07

don't

31:07

wanna see me get out of this quantum realm.

31:09

That's right. Thank you, everybody.

31:11

What do you think, Whitney? Okay. I gonna go

31:14

ROGUS on Scarlet Witch, BOGUS on

31:16

Captain America because

31:18

I do think that Wanda had to

31:20

go somewhere after Mount

31:22

Wundergoor. And I guess that

31:24

I always thought that maybe she was just

31:26

like it it was kinda like the House of M storyline

31:29

where she got displaced and she doesn't remember

31:31

who she is, but she could've gotten

31:33

displaced to the quantum realm. Why not why

31:35

not both? So I think that that part

31:38

could have then, I don't think

31:40

that they're gonna put Captain America in the Quantumania,

31:42

however, because I think he's just

31:44

too

31:45

old. I think that

31:46

they can just let him

31:48

not do this anymore. Like, I don't

31:50

wanna make old

31:51

There's no handicap rands in that quantum

31:53

realm. Yeah. There's no handicap brand.

31:55

It's not it's not the quantum realm

31:57

is not wheelchair accessible, and that's the

31:59

problem. But we're trying to fix that

32:02

right now. We've got the plans from city hall.

32:05

Until then, I don't think that Steve Rogers

32:07

would, like, do very well in the quantum realm

32:09

at the age that we saw him last. And

32:11

I know that Brandon said some shit about, like, time traveling

32:14

and whatnot. I don't know. I think

32:16

that he stayed with Peggy. I think he

32:18

was bored, but I think that after all

32:20

the bullshit he had went through. He wanted one lifetime

32:22

where he was bored. So, like, think he

32:24

did do his boring lifetime. Although, I think

32:26

he served his time in boring

32:28

town.

32:29

Oh, I

32:29

think think that now he just kinda wants to

32:31

die. So this is like, that

32:33

was basically the whole point of, like, Infiniti won that

32:35

game. It's like, hey, when you're gonna hang it up, Kap. It's like,

32:37

you

32:37

know, that's that's a good sign. Yeah. Big sign.

32:39

No. It's

32:40

time for everybody. Everybody needs to go night night

32:42

at some point. Exactly.

32:45

It's very true. Where

32:46

are you at, too? What do you think?

32:48

I think this is super super a row because

32:50

I like this idea of of, like, one of

32:52

these Avengers hiding out in the quantum row.

32:54

It's the perfect way to, like, put an

32:56

actor who wants to do other things

32:59

for a while, like, put them in, like, suspended status

33:01

in the MCU, just put them in the closet around.

33:03

So, like, yeah, I like this. Or, like, I like

33:05

the idea of the fantastic four also being the

33:07

quantum realm as well. Mhmm. Because we don't

33:09

know where these butthole families

33:11

at. They're somewhere. I feel like

33:12

Yeah. I am. Wait. So, yeah,

33:14

they they could be there too. But, yeah, like, I like

33:16

this idea, whether it's cap or abs abskarth

33:19

witch. So ROGUS for me, double ROGUS for

33:21

both

33:22

Play. Lovely. Thank you.

33:24

I guess that I'm in August because I voted

33:26

ROGUS Scarlet Witch and then

33:28

I'll take the average. Take the average on that. But

33:30

overall, August. Thank you, Jessica,

33:32

for the gift of August. You are

33:34

Thank you, Jessica. know we don't thank you nearly

33:36

enough for the gift of August.

33:38

And I just wanna say convince of

33:40

August. On behalf of all

33:42

of New Rockstars and all of our fans

33:44

and all of our coworkers, we'd like to say

33:46

thank you for your contribution of

33:48

August. Without which without

33:50

which we'd all be dead. But,

33:51

yes, now it is time for our rogue question of the

33:53

day. You guys are ready for this one. I'm ready.

33:56

Because now that we got our first full rather

33:58

for the flash featuring a time traveling

34:00

universe hopping, Barry Allen, we can't

34:02

wait to see how the DC universe gets reshaped.

34:05

So for today's real question, if you could time

34:07

up into any film universe, then change

34:09

it for the better, where would you go, and

34:11

what would you

34:12

change?

34:12

Into any film universe? That's a good

34:14

question.

34:14

Yes. It

34:15

doesn't have to be DC or Marvel. It can be anything.

34:18

Oh, really? Yeah. Like,

34:20

if you want. We're

34:21

changing the gonna go fast,

34:23

obviously.

34:24

Are we changing the the the premise of

34:26

the movie or we change Jean. You

34:29

can you can make whatever change you want, whatever

34:31

change you want.

34:32

Here's what I would do. I would jump into

34:34

a universe that I I hope very near

34:36

in turn of my heart.

34:38

The Jurassic Park universe. Okay?

34:41

Yes. Okay. Up into there.

34:43

I would get in there somewhere in between the

34:46

lost world and Jurassic Park

34:48

three, the one where they went back to

34:50

aisle new bar with

34:52

doctor Grant and all that.

34:54

Somewhere in between those two movies, between

34:56

two and three, I jump into there

34:58

and and fix what was going on.

35:01

There. We never get like Jurassic

35:03

World. They never reopen the park. None of that

35:05

stuff. I just want like an island where

35:08

the dinosaurs get to run supreme And

35:10

it's constantly, like, people trying to come to this

35:12

island to catch the dinosaurs or to,

35:14

like, steal their technology, like, steal their

35:16

genetics or whatever, and they just can't do it.

35:18

And the island gets more and more wild. And

35:20

yes, dinosaurs still get out and get

35:22

around and get around world and that still

35:24

happens, but they never reopen the park.

35:26

Forget the park. Like, let the park go.

35:29

It's more about a world where, like, dinosaur start

35:31

running supreme and

35:33

and there you go. That's what I that's where I would

35:35

go and change that.

35:36

That's really I like that's really unique. I like that

35:39

a lot. What what do y'all just got?

35:41

I would, which I think this is no shocker

35:43

to anyone. I go into the wildlight.

35:45

The Twilight series. Yes.

35:48

Oh my god. Yeah. don't think do I get to go

35:50

back home, but I'm gonna give you this.

35:52

I wanna I'm gonna make a vampire.

35:54

I get to go home into the darkness and become

35:57

a vampire of everything that I've ever

35:59

wanted. And because I'm a vampire

36:01

and I'm long lasting, I'm immortal, like

36:04

Carlisle, I would just study

36:06

which I say this all the time, if I was ever

36:08

immortal and just a normal human but

36:10

immortal, I would study

36:12

medicine. I would travel and study medicine

36:14

as much as I possibly could and

36:17

then just help the world. This

36:19

seems really corny. I

36:21

know this sounds really corny, especially something

36:23

Jessica wouldn't do, but I'm always saying,

36:25

I was stuck the planet forever. There's

36:27

an endless knowledge to medicine that people just

36:29

haven't reached

36:30

yet. Why wouldn't I just study medicine

36:32

and science my entire

36:33

life? It'd be like a better doctor who.

36:36

I like Carlisle. I would be Carlisle.

36:38

And I would just keep switching cities and be

36:40

a doctor at different cities. They I mean,

36:42

I'd be making a steady income. I would be doing

36:45

something that is always always open

36:47

and always a vast

36:48

knowledge. So I was like, yeah, I would just do that

36:50

with my life. So I'd be a twilight person. Wow.

36:53

It's

36:53

beautiful. Oh, hell yeah.

36:55

Those mark markle of the day. Just

36:57

very nice. I was like, oh, that's

37:01

just great marketing right there.

37:02

During pride, people are like, holy

37:04

shit. This girl

37:06

This is the duck that we need to go to.

37:10

Oh

37:10

my god. One hundred percent. I hope. What

37:12

what you got, Wippy? Okay. I guess

37:14

that might as real, but it affects the

37:16

franchise. True. I wanna go back

37:18

in time to the

37:20

Fast Five move feet. And I

37:22

wanna make it so that Bend Diesel is not

37:25

mean to the rock so that we can

37:27

still

37:28

have Lucas Hobbs in the fast

37:30

I do apologize for a lot. I mean One

37:34

of the best parts and he's like, I'm sorry

37:36

in Fast Seven when he's in the cast.

37:38

And he just breaks his arm out of the casket.

37:40

He's like, daddy's gotta go to war.

37:43

I'm like, I need more of that.

37:45

I need more. So I wanna go

37:47

back in time and stop vin bezel for being a

37:49

little butt to his friend so

37:51

they could still be friends and make

37:54

more

37:54

fast. That's what I want. I grew

37:57

with that hard core. I kinda like, it always, like,

37:59

makes me sad with seeing them, like, feed together.

38:01

So, like I don't like because they're beefing.

38:03

I don't like it. I just want them to be friends.

38:05

I don't like it when people have beef you

38:07

guys. Exactly. It it feels in a east especially,

38:10

like, in a universe that already lost, like, Paul

38:12

Walker, which is, like, I was re watching, like,

38:15

just Paul Walker cooked to the franchise. And, like,

38:17

I'm like, he's just so great. He's so

38:19

good.

38:19

He's in that role. And,

38:21

like, honestly, I feel like Paul Walker could have been Captain

38:23

America. Like, real talk. Dude, he could

38:25

have honestly, like, if he kept having

38:28

a career, I he would a hundred percent

38:30

be in the

38:30

MC. Right now. But yeah. Like, he would be if he

38:32

was still alive, no doubt in my mind, he'd be

38:35

in the MCU right now. Yes. No. I do

38:37

love the rock in that franchise, and I do

38:39

miss him. So, like, if I'm good fix that.

38:41

That'd be amazing. So I'm gonna give

38:43

that a rope trophy for today

38:46

because friendship always lives

38:48

over

38:48

beautiful. No no beef, please.

38:51

No beef. Let's just be sweet to each

38:53

other.

38:53

Let's just be so nice. It's always nice

38:55

to be nice. But that is it for this episode

38:57

of Rogue Theory with All Bein DICE friends. I love each and

38:59

every one of you. You guys are all amazing, and you guys

39:02

are extra rogue. I love your brains. So

39:04

thank you, Dora, I guess, just for Clements with

39:06

and Brandon Barrack. So you can support our channel

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39:17

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39:21

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39:30

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