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Welcome back to New Rockstar. And with

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Kain the comfor' making his fearsome

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debut in the Ant Man in the Lost Qantamania

0:06

trailer, of massively minuscule

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proportions. We know that a microverse invasion

0:11

could very welcome to the regular size

0:13

of the both of the MCU. But what

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if I told you Kain's army wasn't

0:18

your average alive

0:21

person army. What if I told you that

0:23

Kain was building a diseased army

0:25

of the dead at to invade the multiverse.

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This is Rome Theory, the show where we've missed the wildest

0:30

series for the nerdy titles that we love. My name is

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m t. Go to Rome with me today. is king

0:34

the conqueror's accomplice before he stabbed

0:36

her in the back like the jerk that he is. If Jessica

0:38

Clement's what's going on, Jess.

0:41

Matt. oh

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Jess, you're so cute right now. I

0:51

really just like, I wanna I wanna

0:54

hug your whole body, like, with including

0:56

your head. In the low end, you're just adorable.

0:59

I I would love a plush of,

1:01

like, just that. I'm just juts in a hoodie.

1:03

I'm just

1:04

like a little Jessica stuffed animal

1:06

in a her little hood. Hey, guys. at

1:09

New Rock Stars at Pick Your

1:10

Shop. Maybe they can make you It's

1:12

gonna go. It would be the same. It's a early

1:15

preview, Jess. see that.

1:17

I like it. I'm here for it. It receives

1:19

my full vote.

1:20

Okay. And my

1:21

goodness, we have managed to get the

1:23

queen of the quantum realm herself in

1:25

this building, it is Whitney Van Leningen.

1:27

What's going on with it?

1:29

Oh, so much quantum stuff.

1:31

I'm so small. You guys don't know

1:33

it, but I'm actually only this thing.

1:36

And this recording has blown me up

1:38

with the with the machine that Willy Wonka

1:40

used to stretch out Mike T. Yes.

1:42

That's right. That's the only reason I'm

1:44

able to be here today. And the true

1:47

inventor

1:47

of a pin particle do not believe

1:49

the propaganda. It's Oh, Michaelson. This

1:51

is true. I don't know if you guys saw me an end

1:53

game. You thought I thought it was Michael Douglas,

1:55

but it was really me with those that long,

1:57

long flowing locks. holding that

1:59

little

1:59

wrist. That's true. It was. I was

2:02

the one actually mixing the camera the beaker

2:04

and everything, and was mixing that. And he just out

2:06

to the phone and ran off. So here's Wow. He got

2:08

all the credit. But What did you Thank

2:11

you for finally letting you the the people

2:13

know who the real hero of the m c is

2:15

the rat and me who made the pin particle. Alright,

2:18

guys. It's time for our first rogue topic

2:20

of today. I missed you guys. Mike, I I first

2:22

of all, Thank you to Whitney for

2:25

for the amazing impression of

2:27

me. Trust me,

2:30

it was made by entire

2:32

week. I missed you guys so much. I never

2:34

wanna take another vacation again because

2:36

it keeps me from you.

2:38

Empty. I was literally wearing that

2:40

the shirt you are wearing today is the

2:42

one I was wearing last year.

2:43

Right. So you knew. I'm gonna

2:46

you know the plaid look. Look at the cotton.

2:48

any hair. Look at the cotton annuity. Listen.

2:50

Exactly. No. That Walmart

2:52

continuity is important to me. Alright.

2:54

Now, first of all, today.

2:57

Yes. I believe that came the

2:59

conqueror in the quantum realm

3:01

what Scott's laying to steal

3:03

the quantum virus from what if to

3:06

build a zombie army. because

3:08

I don't know if you gotta remember from

3:10

what if, but like Janet Van Dine,

3:12

she got a she's the one who introduced that

3:14

whole zombie threat to the entirety of

3:16

the MCU when

3:19

when Hank brought her back to the big

3:21

regular people verse. So I think

3:23

that this quantum virus also

3:25

exists in the live action universe to some

3:27

degree. We just don't know where it is. We don't

3:29

know how

3:30

genate contracted that virus in the

3:32

the what if universe. So

3:33

I'm thinking that it actually

3:36

exists somewhere, maybe it's being

3:38

kept under locking key and

3:40

like they have to do a heist to get it. But I think

3:42

that Kang the conqueror wants

3:44

Scott Lang to steal this virus so that

3:46

he can conquer a lot

3:48

easier and just build a zombie army,

3:51

and

3:51

so zombies can nom

3:53

nom on

3:54

people and

3:55

make more zombies. be

3:56

it. That that's how zombies work. I heard

3:59

you. Yeah. That's how zombies

3:59

are made. It takes a when a

4:02

mommy daddy bites a a daddy.

4:04

Yeah. baby

4:06

zombie. is born. Mhmm. Exactly.

4:08

Yeah. But they don't eat if they don't eat that

4:10

person they bit. But yes. Exactly. Yes. Yes.

4:12

That I freaking love this. And

4:14

if this now it's like if

4:16

this isn't what they're doing, I

4:18

feel like not I don't know. That

4:20

just the steak seems so high with that. That's why.

4:22

That seems like such an awesome idea.

4:24

And you're exactly right. And what if

4:26

when Hank went back to go get Janet,

4:28

she was already infected with that quantum

4:31

virus or whatever they they wanna call it

4:33

that made people's zombies in. If and

4:35

I've always said if they're not going to you

4:37

know, if there's if it's not gonna be talked

4:39

about an atman three because it has to do with the quantum

4:41

realm, they're gonna be bringing back live

4:43

action novels on these somehow. Maybe in,

4:45

like, they're saving it for, like, an Avengers movie.

4:47

Maybe for Kang Dynasty, and maybe when he actually

4:49

gets to weaponize them or maybe Secret Wars

4:51

is one of the variants they have to fight. And that

4:53

would also be a really fun way

4:55

to bring back some of these a listers who

4:57

have maybe, you know, put down put

4:59

down the mantle like Chris Evans could come back of

5:01

just Bill Zombie just part afternoon without ruining

5:04

what he's done with cap or RDJ

5:06

even for Ironman. So that's

5:08

freaking awesome. And I love that idea.

5:10

And how cool would it be to

5:11

see a quantum out of the mini

5:14

vans like, and all these zombies

5:16

jump out. I'm sorry. I'm tearing up

5:18

people. I'll be freaking one of these zombies.

5:20

That'd be cool. That's what I was I wanna I

5:22

want John Dude,

5:24

he was the first he was the first victim, but

5:26

then I'm the first shareholder. Right? Right. If you

5:28

remember, he's not going to come back

5:30

to attack hydra killing him

5:32

because my god, wed jerks. wed

5:34

jerks. I can't even believe And then all the other ants

5:36

at the Seagulls eight and the the

5:38

blast. Lucy says grants

5:41

and all the other heads or whatever, they can all

5:43

come back. But that would be that

5:45

would be freaking awesome and amazing

5:47

if if it was the zombies, which is what

5:49

was at the core of all of this. I love it. That's

5:51

great. Thanks, man. What

5:53

what are the ladies think?

5:54

where

5:56

the

6:02

Wait,

6:07

so so where is the virus

6:09

being stored exactly? Do you think that it's

6:11

just like it's like in

6:13

osmosis jones, you know, when there's

6:15

just like viruses that are almost in the body

6:17

system, or is it like Or

6:19

is it, like, there's, like, a lab where

6:21

Kang has been manning

6:22

Like, much like the c c sandwich.

6:25

In World War Z where if all the viruses

6:27

are stored underground and Yeah.

6:29

petabolic umbrella storage facility

6:31

maybe? Yeah.

6:32

Like, is it that? Like, is somebody making

6:34

these viruses? Or are the viruses

6:36

just like that's just something you

6:38

can get in the quantum realm so it's

6:40

floating around and contagious. I

6:42

I have a feeling that Bill

6:44

Murray's character, whoever he's playing

6:46

has that The

6:49

quantifier He would be the guy. Yeah.

6:51

And, like, I think He's the guy.

6:53

Yeah. He would be the guy. the guy. has

6:55

a past relationship with this man because she's

6:57

been in this quantum realm for god

6:59

knows how long. I don't know how time works in the

7:01

quantum realms. Like, she could be like a bazillion

7:03

years old. I don't know. But

7:06

I think that at one point, she had a relationship

7:08

of either a business or or close

7:10

relationship. And

7:11

she knows that

7:13

And Ken knows that

7:15

she's like the best way to get

7:17

to this virus because like

7:20

she

7:20

just knows the lay of, like, wherever he lives

7:22

and, like and she's, like, alright, Scott. You're the

7:24

heist man. You're the only one that can get this

7:27

because I don't know why I can't

7:29

I don't know, I have to work out.

7:32

I have critique to consider. Oh, I have

7:34

to work out. You

7:36

know, idea. I'm gonna put AAI

7:38

haven't had a theory a theory. What a part of

7:40

this is because

7:41

we know the comics that King, you know,

7:45

King's love his revetta Rensler,

7:47

Maybe in this dimension with

7:49

King of Carcorder, she's died. And

7:51

he's he needs to and Bill

7:54

Murray had a way to bring her back accidentally

7:56

created this quantum virus thing. And

7:58

that's what kind of

7:59

spurs off Kang's story in

8:02

general and the zombie story in

8:04

general because I I

8:06

imagine that, you know, no one would want to

8:08

create this undead army of,

8:10

you know, people leaders, but

8:12

But that that's how they could tie into

8:14

Kang's history too in the comics in

8:16

some ways. Mhmm. Having

8:17

it be maybe she's gone here and he's

8:19

trying to bring reventor

8:20

rinslayer back.

8:23

You guys, I honestly the more

8:25

that we keep saying, Bill Murray,

8:27

instead of, like, whatever his character's

8:29

name -- Right. -- the more I wanted

8:31

to just be Bill Murray. I

8:33

got stuck in the quantum ring,

8:36

and somehow contracted

8:38

a zombie virus. And then

8:40

when Bill Murray, dated

8:42

Janaventa

8:42

eye. Maybe not just

8:44

maybe not just Star Wars eyes, his

8:46

name, where they change it, make it sound like a name

8:48

of Star Wars. His name would be, like, bile

8:51

broth or something like that. Yeah.

8:54

That's how they'll do it. They'll just make it sound

8:56

like a a fantasy name.

8:59

But

8:59

then that would also mean that Janice van

9:01

Dine got to date younger, hotter,

9:04

ghostbusters, Bill Murray, before

9:06

he was a huge actress.

9:08

all worry ever

9:09

attractive. No. He was like

9:12

Like, he's just like a regular white

9:15

man. I don't know. He was just very

9:16

Yeah. a very average

9:19

looking white man. But he

9:20

was he was hot he's a hot commodity in the

9:22

eighties. What can I say? just the money,

9:24

but young him is still

9:25

he's very problematic dude. VM,

9:28

you're problematic. I hate to be the

9:30

one that have to call you

9:31

out on your Sorry, Bill. Sorry,

9:34

Belle.

9:34

Sorry, Belle. Oh, we're not sorry.

9:36

You did it. No.

9:37

We're sorry. He did the bad

9:39

things. We're not sorry to him. You know,

9:41

it's more like sorry to bust

9:43

you out, but sorry. Not sorry. That's what it is.

9:45

Sorry. No. Sorry, Bill. That's that's Motherfucker.

9:48

I I have a feeling that

9:50

he will not be in any other MCU

9:52

movie after this. I don't know. Who

9:54

knows? It's Claire on the trailer. They, like,

9:56

took away all his dialogue. Alright.

9:58

So he's here,

9:59

I guess. And moving on. Yeah. So

10:02

what do you think, Jess? I think it's fun. I

10:04

think it's rogue. I love any

10:06

any way to bring

10:08

anyone back, and this seems like

10:10

a fun way to bring people back.

10:11

Yes. Yeah. Bring people from the dead. I

10:14

just had a weird idea while we were talking

10:16

about this. What if this

10:18

zombie virus was

10:20

an attempt. It was engineered

10:22

for the purposes of,

10:24

like, these tiny subatomic

10:27

people to take over the

10:29

bodies of a bigger person like a

10:31

meck. It's like, okay. Look at those big

10:33

people. Let's take over their bodies

10:35

so we have a meck so that we can

10:37

just fight

10:37

a war from, like, from

10:40

down here, but, like, have them kill

10:42

each other. I don't know. Yeah. Like a lit like,

10:44

almost like a men in with the the little

10:46

aliens inside the suit except that it's a

10:48

little person. And it can be like, what's this

10:50

voice? It's like it's your conscience. Like,

10:52

man until in civil war. And you

10:54

wouldn't even know because they're miniature. Yeah.

10:56

Exactly. I think it'd be really fun

10:58

if, like, zombies were being like

11:01

even

11:01

though, like, from the human perspective, it's like, oh my

11:03

god, it's a it's a crazy zombie, but, like,

11:05

their the zombies were moving

11:07

purposefully because they were

11:09

being controlled by, like, little tiny people. It's

11:11

like, yeah, kill all by humans. We're gonna

11:13

take over the we're gonna

11:15

send.

11:15

Wait. So So

11:17

are we now imagining that all

11:20

of the zombies are only this big

11:22

when they come out of the corner?

11:23

Is that what

11:25

I'm saying? But So, like Would you like to I

11:27

don't care. So, like, you're telling me

11:29

the same same thing that Tom said where

11:31

it's

11:31

like that didn't it turn. duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh.

11:33

Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh.

11:35

Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh.

11:38

Duh.

11:38

Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh. Duh.

11:40

Duh and they

11:41

go around and they give you little mini

11:43

zombie vitamins.

11:44

Exactly. That would be hilarious.

11:46

Way more deadly than

11:48

full size zombies. Hey. All

11:49

you gotta do is bite one person

11:51

and then, like, you you got a big Yeah.

11:53

Just like a

11:54

tiny guy. All you have to

11:56

do You show up to one picnic.

11:58

You'll take the whole family.

11:59

Exactly. Yeah. Like, my gong. I'm

12:02

a whole meal. Yeah.

12:04

It would take so many bites to turn

12:07

me. Those

12:11

zombies hate shit. You

12:13

know, I honestly do see the Marvel

12:15

Studios bringing in

12:17

the zombies, live action Marvel

12:19

zombies at some point in the future. It's too much of

12:21

an iconic Marvel

12:23

staple. And like, you know, with

12:25

especially with the success of Wear Wolf by night,

12:27

I feel like Marvel

12:28

now knows that people have a demand for,

12:30

like, the darker, more,

12:32

like, you know Supernatural. Bloodier

12:34

and gorgeous. supernatural.

12:35

Zombi Strange out here just

12:38

paved the

12:38

strategy. Like, I'm telling you it's

12:40

right? I honestly do think

12:42

that that

12:42

zombie Strange is gonna come back.

12:45

as mister misery to start some He

12:47

was fucking cool. I

12:49

want him back. And even though he's a

12:51

he's an undid bird dead body, I mean, he's

12:53

not really a zombie. Right? because it's strange,

12:55

like, you know, you know,

12:57

hijacking. He does fly. So he Yeah.

12:59

Exactly. He's not, like, he doesn't have the hunger or

13:01

anything so and anything. It's almost like he's, like, the

13:04

day walk of zombies. You

13:06

know? Or so maybe that strange would be

13:08

in the Blade movie, you know? That's -- Right. --

13:10

zombie strange. I I do love that for him

13:12

to be a new character. Yeah. I dig

13:14

it. I like that. I dig it. But yeah.

13:16

Okay. So wrapping up this

13:18

first topic. What do think overall? Do you guys

13:20

think that this idea of of

13:22

King himself wanting

13:24

Scott to steal the quantum

13:26

virus to start a

13:28

zombie invasion. Do you guys think it's rolus? Do you guys

13:30

think it's bogus? Or do you guys think it's

13:32

the middle chest patented

13:35

August.

13:35

Yeah.

13:36

Gotta created

13:38

something

13:38

for this. You should

13:41

just

13:41

share the icon. She is the

13:43

pro queen.

13:45

I'm

13:45

gonna guess. When

13:51

the hood comes on, the baby

13:53

talk. comes out. Look

13:56

at the exterior. He's like, man. Yeah.

13:58

You can we see. Man. Yeah. Like, you can do

13:59

Tracy Villan. So he's on. Same.

14:02

Same. Same. Same. I

14:05

I'm gonna give it a rug just because it is

14:07

very rogue. It's very rogue.

14:09

And my the whole point of road theory is

14:11

to make

14:11

that shit crazy, and I think this is

14:14

crazy. Well,

14:15

thank you, Jess. I appreciate that.

14:17

I will take your longest and keep it forever.

14:19

Thank you, Jess. What do you guys think? My

14:22

amendment. Man.

14:24

I'm also also

14:26

gonna give it a ROGUS, but in addition to

14:28

my ROGUS is gonna be

14:30

a little tiny zombie guy. I

14:32

see.

14:32

I don't have a picture. Okay.

14:35

because

14:35

I vote I vote yes, and I also vote

14:37

that we get small. Yes.

14:38

Tiny lobbies. They get out there

14:41

tomorrow. Tiny lobbies, please.

14:42

really Give us

14:44

both. Give us full size. Give us tiny Oh,

14:46

congratulations.

14:46

We only saw one tiny zombie and

14:48

what if when we saw a Janet Band died.

14:51

So, like, Just

14:51

make four times on these. More titles.

14:56

Yeah. The first zombie we ever saw was tiny.

14:58

So that's that's already can't tiny. Right. Right. already

15:01

can and pennies on this kid and call

15:03

them. We're doing a holiday

15:05

trademark. I'm gonna give it a ROGUS

15:07

and two men. That's because that

15:09

was good. That was that

15:11

I like I said, I'm gonna be I'm

15:13

kinda

15:13

it's one of those where I'm like, shit. I know this

15:15

is road theory and it's supposed to be kinda a little

15:17

bit out there, but That's so crazy.

15:20

It just might work. And now I'm gonna be a little

15:22

bummed if we don't really kinda get that. I'm

15:24

sure, quite a minute is gonna be cool. I'm sure

15:26

it's gonna be fine. But we we and

15:28

like like you said, MC, we know that they've they've

15:30

gotta be coming in some way or

15:32

fashion in some movie. And

15:34

whether it's this one or yeah.

15:36

Some weapon that someone uses later in

15:38

one of the Avengers movies. I'll

15:40

take

15:40

it either way, but I would love to see

15:42

this movie be about trying to steal that

15:44

virus and have it be like a Marvel

15:46

World War Z movie or something. That'll be

15:49

legit. Let's go. I would love it. I

15:51

would love it. Alright. Thank you guys,

15:53

dude. I've business so much. I'm so

15:55

glad to do another

15:57

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19:15

I have missed you in your

19:17

rogue theories. Please take

19:19

it away for the second topic of

19:22

the day. I

19:22

think in secret invasion

19:24

that Clint Barton is gonna die.

19:26

Oh.

19:27

And this is the reason why

19:30

I think he's gonna die. I don't hope he dies, but I think

19:32

he's gonna die. I don't hope

19:34

anyone in the MCU ever actually dies

19:36

except for maybe Johnny mayonnaise. But

19:38

We're done. Seventy minis. He's

19:42

gonna be the first to go. Just

19:44

kidding.

19:44

So I think that Clint Barton is

19:46

going to die

19:47

in secret invasion. don't want him

19:49

to die, but he probably will. And I

19:51

I have

19:52

reasoning behind why I think he's gonna die. So I

19:55

know the secret invasion is supposed to

19:57

be a any TV series. But I

19:58

think that that situation we've been

19:59

ramping up to for a long time with being, like,

20:02

who's a squirrel? Where is the squirrel? How are

20:04

the squirrels? They're a the

20:06

Why is the scroll? Why

20:08

are you trying to figure

20:10

out who's a scroll in the

20:12

MCU right now? And in

20:14

the comics, there is the

20:16

comics Secret invasion was a really big

20:17

storyline. So even, like,

20:19

they were, like,

20:20

they killed, like, one major person like

20:22

Jana bandai because they were trying to recreate

20:24

her entirely. So they were just like, let's

20:26

just get rid of her right now in this series and

20:28

we'll redo something and go back into the past

20:30

in another story So I think

20:33

that one person is gonna be Clint Barton. And I

20:35

think Clint Barton is a good person to kind

20:37

of redo

20:37

not redo, but get

20:40

rid of and explore more of what he has to offer within

20:42

his family, within Linda Cardellini,

20:44

his wife, and with Kate Bishop, and

20:46

passing that mantle on. because I

20:48

think all the Marvel Avengers are now

20:50

passing the mantle, and I think he needs

20:51

to pass the mantle more so than

20:54

retiring because we all know he never really

20:56

goes into retirement. So I

20:58

think what's gonna

20:58

happen is in secret invasion, we're gonna fail

21:01

because we already said, allegedly, no.

21:03

The

21:03

Linda Caroleini, his wife's character

21:06

is mockingbird. So I think Mockingbird

21:08

was a big part of the comics. She

21:10

turned into a scroll. She infiltrated

21:12

the West Coast Avengers. She was a

21:14

bitch. I love her to dance. I must be

21:16

inspired by her in every form.

21:17

Even in even in Vision Quest, I was

21:19

like, I feel it. I get it Mockingbird.

21:22

So I think she's gonna become she's gonna

21:24

actually be a scroll in what we saw last

21:26

of her in Hawkeye and

21:29

Hawkeye. she was still a squirrel. I think she is a

21:31

squirrel. He brought her the watch. She said, oh,

21:33

thanks. What the hell

21:34

I like to say was a squirrel.

21:36

The entire time. And so I think she's

21:38

in full range. She'll be a scroll. And then

21:41

from Hawkeye to what we've seen secret invasion,

21:43

he'll be like, you are a scroll this entire

21:45

time. Go crazy. and

21:47

fight her and kill her, but then also just go crazy

21:49

on

21:49

the rest of the squirrels and fight, but he'll die

21:51

in the midst of the fight. And Linda Carlinie

21:54

will approach and from the ashes come new life and she'll still be

21:56

alive, but her husband will be dead and

21:58

Clint Barton will die.

21:59

Those kids are gonna hate her. Yeah.

22:02

Yeah. That that would start

22:04

a strained relationship for sure. No more They're gonna

22:06

hate the scroll.

22:07

No more mother's day cards. That's for

22:09

Dang. Sure. They're gonna hate the scroll. her

22:11

And when she dies, she'll turn back into the scroll. So hopefully,

22:14

the kids will see. But it also gives reason to

22:16

explore his daughter and son. I think his daughter

22:18

is much more than what we see. And in

22:20

Hawkeye, this is my makeup. And in

22:22

Hawkeye, I wanted to see what more

22:24

she would give and she didn't give

22:26

enough. And so I

22:27

think her dad dying is gonna start

22:29

her hero's journey, and we're gonna see her turn

22:31

into someone.

22:32

Interesting. Interesting.

22:34

You have, like, a couple theories in

22:36

there. It was, like, Not only is Hawkeye gonna die,

22:38

but then Mockingbirds' a squirrel and

22:40

all of that, but I that's really

22:43

really interesting. if the watch

22:45

from Hawkeye just told the

22:47

time on the scroll home planet. It's like, oh, yeah. It's

22:49

just Yeah. It's probably close to me.

22:51

So that's how we find out.

22:53

We see

22:53

the watch face, and it's like,

22:55

wait a minute. this on Earth.

22:57

It says it's it's it's a big

23:00

house. They're little old, tommy

23:02

league. What does that mean? Yeah.

23:04

It's it's like, don't worry about it. It's a

23:06

shield watch. Right. I'm a squirrel.

23:08

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I like this

23:10

idea. You know, obviously, I I do like Clint

23:12

Barton. I don't want him to die. But

23:14

it

23:14

seems like, you know, Clint

23:16

Barton's time in

23:18

the MCU might be up in terms of,

23:21

like, his story. And, like, I don't know. Like, I

23:23

just feel like it's it's time to pass the

23:25

mantle to to keep Bishop, not

23:27

because I'm biased. I'm

23:29

taking

23:32

your best to take your best to take your best

23:34

right of this. Drills

23:37

Thompson. that she You know what? You

23:39

tell me, what do you what do you have to say? Because

23:41

I'm gonna listen to what do you guys.

23:46

Yeah. I mean, it's not helping you.

23:48

It's not helping you take, you know, Haley's

23:50

stuff. I mean, a key bishop would die, but

23:52

No. No. Just kidding you.

23:54

Wouldn't it?

23:58

Goodbye rogue

23:58

theory. And she wouldn't

23:59

get a bed for months.

24:01

he would not be able to host

24:03

this show anymore.

24:04

Not hero. If I'm sitting in the movie theater

24:06

and I see Kate Bishop die, I'm going up

24:08

to the projector room and ripping the

24:11

thing out. and throwing it back. I'm sorry. because I don't

24:13

accept it. I do not accept it.

24:15

If she dies, that this this

24:17

screen projector dies. Yes.

24:19

No. I don't want that to

24:21

happen just for the record. I'll just try that. just trying to get a rise of No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

24:29

Yeah. It worked. Oh, it's easy. It's really

24:31

easy. Yeah. No. This is really great. I really

24:33

like it. But I think, you know, we know for a

24:35

fact that the Skrulls are gonna to

24:37

have been here the whole time. And whether

24:39

that's someone like happy or, you

24:41

know, even inferior. And

24:43

having it be mockingbird know, having a

24:45

beer's wife is a really good candidate, because she's

24:47

been there, you know, since almost a

24:49

seghetco in the age of ultron. And

24:51

so to and so to have her be part of

24:53

it and also the other things we're missing,

24:56

because in the Secret Wars, the

24:58

secret invasion comic, you

25:00

know, the the real the the person who kinda

25:02

infiltrated everything was Spider Woman a girl

25:04

who took over kind of the Spider

25:06

Woman Jessica Drew, you know, body.

25:08

So we don't have her right now,

25:10

and secret invasion is coming up. And so they

25:12

need maybe maybe Mockingbird will be

25:14

that character that's been here the whole time that's

25:16

infiltrated that everybody trusts and

25:18

loves. But really, she's kind of one of the big

25:20

bads. I really love that idea. On the break room, no,

25:22

sir. We pitch that she the

25:24

Jessica Drew does exist. And when the

25:26

when no way home happened, she ended

25:28

up in our timeline. but she died in

25:30

an alley, in a girl's star, and

25:33

just took her up here. She's

25:35

just so She's in the school

25:37

plan. I thought she said that's fire weapon. She was

25:39

like, I'm gonna take that form. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

25:41

Take that back and forth to

25:43

the fucking Hudson. This girl is like, if

25:45

that spider woman from the Secret invasion

25:48

series, I'll take that. Yeah. They put they

25:50

put rocks in her pocket just threw her

25:51

into her lake. I'll take that one.

25:54

No

25:54

one else has claimed this one, guys. Yeah. Alright. I'm

25:55

here. You guys want this body? Are you sure that's even

25:57

a superhero? Yeah. I love it.

25:59

I love it. Can

26:01

we just take bodies at this dimension? Oh, yeah. I was good this one. Hold on,

26:03

guys. Stop. I'm gonna

26:06

go dig up Abraham Lincoln's corpse

26:08

real quick. still

26:11

there. That'd be

26:13

so funny to appear as

26:15

like George Washington. and

26:17

then just be like, this guy. Right? This

26:19

guy? You guys are over there, everybody? This

26:21

guy. No. I want I want the ship to open and

26:23

all these heroes to come out and then have, like, one

26:25

of the random presidents like, Rutherford

26:27

B. Hayes. And who the hell is this? Like, who

26:29

the hell is this? Like, who is this?

26:32

Yeah. Exactly. Who is this? The

26:34

honest girls are like, I

26:35

told you not to choose a fucking president.

26:38

Do

26:38

you know the

26:40

president's actually? They only know the last three.

26:43

It's gonna be a slim manual around here. I

26:45

would believe that one more. Yeah. Well, if I dress up

26:47

as a brandenburg, but it was

26:49

Leslie owned junior's area, that

26:51

would be great. Brandon would be a

26:53

really good girl. You just say How do

26:55

squirrels come on? Be like, I'm willing to wait for

26:58

it. Did I I

27:00

really like I really this there

27:03

because I have been

27:05

very convinced for a long time that

27:07

Ant Man is gonna be the to die.

27:09

Mhmm. And I think that I'm more ready for

27:12

Clint Barton to die than I am for

27:14

AMN to die. I

27:16

have this It's more like anxiety. Like, I just have this, like,

27:18

horrific anxiety that they're gonna

27:20

pull the death of Ant Man

27:21

at the end of montomania and just ice

27:24

Paul Rod. and he's so beautiful. I don't

27:26

want that to happen, but have you seen

27:28

King's abs? King's

27:29

abs are more beautiful than the

27:31

entirety Paul Rudd's existence.

27:32

for each avenger. There's six of them --

27:35

Yeah. -- original six. Yeah. is

27:37

an

27:37

infinity stone. You have

27:40

all six. Yeah. They're

27:42

just underneath his skin. They're not abs.

27:44

Those are protruding stones.

27:47

But I I

27:49

am more ready to to

27:51

let Clint go. I don't want him to die

27:53

ever. Obviously, I don't want anyone to

27:55

die. But I would be more ready to

27:57

say goodbye to that character than

27:59

to Antman. And so

28:01

this absolves my anxieties. Jessica

28:03

just soothed an anxiety. This was

28:05

like a little bar, Xanax, for

28:07

my brain. Oh, right. Now I'm like, okay. Clint

28:10

Barton could die. That sounds reasonable.

28:12

At least, damn man's not. Yay.

28:14

So I like this theater.

28:15

Oh, no. I like, I think

28:17

that I

28:17

also think that ant man is about to die

28:20

very soon. I think that -- No. -- it's

28:22

gonna be very sad. When it's like barn dyes,

28:24

they can't kill both of them. they can't kill both of them. So let's just

28:26

pretend. Let's just pretend it's Clinton and

28:28

say because that benefit It seems like

28:30

I just came down, guys. Why did you know this

28:32

back up? Please.

28:34

What I what I guys think of this idea

28:37

of

28:37

Clint Barton's, like,

28:39

the the new baby, the new Barton baby that

28:41

came out after age of ultron

28:43

What if that baby was a scroll?

28:46

And, like, baby, the real baby was

28:48

taken? Oh, that would

28:49

be okay. So

28:51

that would be sick. that

28:53

would be sick,

28:54

horrible. So sick and horrible at the same

28:57

time. Because I like the idea because

28:59

in

28:59

miss Marvel and the comics,

29:02

at least. Her family, the real

29:04

origin, was like, it was squirrels

29:06

that mixed with humans. So

29:08

it I like

29:08

the idea of Clint Barn's

29:10

wife actually be in a scroll and they had

29:12

a baby together. But it's like, where's the

29:14

original Linda Carlini? Where's

29:16

the original one?

29:18

when did you swap? Has it been

29:20

forever? Or has it not been? Because that's

29:22

just like

29:23

complete. He seems like such a

29:26

family man like, AAAA

29:26

the on the ranch family man that

29:28

he would be like, I don't care if

29:31

you I fell in

29:31

love with you. You're not the person I loved.

29:34

And I'd be like, okay. Wow. It's the person

29:36

you film up with, so deal with it. But I think he

29:38

wouldn't be for it. Could you imagine if she

29:40

left? And if Linda Carline is, like, of

29:43

her of real mockingbird was taken

29:46

over before endgame.

29:48

So when the real one comes back now,

29:50

she's gonna see Mohawk tattoo

29:53

Endgame. I'd be like, who

29:55

are you? You know, there you go.

29:57

Why are you wheeling around this bloody

29:59

samurai sword? Yeah.

29:59

Yeah. That would be hilarious. No. It

30:02

would be super crazy if,

30:04

like, he just never knew mockingbird

30:06

and, like, he just only knew the scroll

30:08

version of her. Yeah. and, like, mock That's true

30:10

sense. Like, I don't know you, Hawkeye. I

30:12

don't actually like you as a person.

30:14

Sorry. It's almost like the the more a

30:16

Star Lord thing would take this

30:18

guy. Yeah. I don't even know you. Yeah. That'll be heartbreaking.

30:20

That would suck,

30:21

though. And I also I feel bad

30:23

because, like, Clint Barton has been

30:25

through a lot. So

30:27

to

30:27

have his, like, real life come

30:30

back and be like, I actually don't love

30:32

you. You love just for all the whole

30:34

time. After losing that,

30:36

No. I'm so

30:39

sad for him. You

30:40

guy, I can't trust any of these women. I can't trust any of these women.

30:42

I can't trust any of these women. be like, They

30:44

don't mind me. They don't mind me. And

30:46

that's how he and that's how he turns.

30:48

He becomes the intelligentsia.

30:51

Okay. So my dear, the continued sound. Clint

30:54

Barnes is Absolutely. Continue. Well, no. Let's let's phoneboat on

30:56

this. Like, what do you guys think of Jess'

30:58

theory of Clint Barton dying

31:01

in Secret invasion? Do you guys

31:03

think it's ROGUS.

31:05

BOGUS or

31:06

OGUS or

31:07

Oh, TOGUS. Oh, East.

31:10

TOGUS. I think

31:12

it's

31:12

ROGUS. because I do think

31:14

that we are gonna see a major,

31:17

like, scroll reveal like that

31:19

and why not Linda

31:21

Cartier. Right. Like, it would make perfect

31:23

sense. Like, this just kind of makes

31:25

sense. So I

31:25

I really like this theory. I think it's good.

31:27

It's

31:27

probably rogue is from Whitney. What do you

31:30

think, Tom? I'm a do wrongest too. I'm a

31:32

do wrongest because, you know, it's it's

31:34

funny what you mentioned too, just about

31:36

him. He's not gonna retire. And in a

31:38

weird way, the Avengers movies,

31:40

unfortunately, have always nerfed him or

31:42

taken him out of the story. Only to bring him back.

31:44

Like, even Avengers won out the gate, he

31:46

was he was my control to not

31:48

even really in the movie. And then in Yeah.

31:50

And then he retired after all

31:52

Trump, but they came back for civil war, and then he

31:54

retired up there. And again, they came back

31:56

for this. And so I gotta feel like the only way

31:58

he's not gonna be around is if he

31:59

if he bites the dust. And

32:02

so I think that would be a crazy way to do it because

32:04

that would definitely be final because with the

32:06

good bar and he always will come You know, they've established.

32:08

He'll always be back. But, baby, not

32:10

if he if he dies. Mhmm.

32:12

Back then. can't come

32:14

back from being a dead guy.

32:15

I'd love to come back as a dead guy, but that's a

32:17

whole thing. I'd love to come back as a dead guy as a

32:19

time. And we

32:23

So, ladies and gentlemen,

32:25

because we call in the comedy

32:27

world a callback. The

32:32

third time, that'll be the rule of

32:34

three thousand rules. Let me tell you.

32:36

We're not telling you. I spent enough money

32:38

on improv classes. I

32:40

know this thing. I am also going to give this a

32:43

ROGUS, but, like, slightly dipping to

32:45

OGUS slightly. No. I don't hear

32:47

you. I don't hear

32:49

you. Only because Hawkeye was

32:51

not confirmed for the series. That's the only

32:53

reason why. A lot of people aren't confirmed yet.

32:56

This is true. A lot of people are not confirmed yet,

32:58

but like, just because we much

33:00

only

33:00

Mafisto confirmed it's true. It's only

33:02

Mafisto.

33:02

He who remains wasn't confirmed in

33:04

Lokey and showed up at the end.

33:07

Yeah. We all know

33:09

it's

33:09

because of what we said about Hayley

33:12

Steinfeld.

33:12

Like,

33:16

we know we know why and see. We already know.

33:18

I forgot about that. Bongo is. Bongo

33:20

is gonna go. Yeah.

33:23

because I also beat by local

33:26

theater, beware. I'm ripping out the project there

33:28

regardless. I'm gonna go find Nelly

33:30

Steinfeld, and I'm gonna go marry her.

33:32

And I'm gonna wait certificate in your

33:34

face, and it's completely minimized.

33:36

I would object a b of the the

33:38

the the first row object. I'll

33:40

say, hey, you're so beautiful sing to

33:42

me. I'd be like, very, very

33:44

be it, Stan. Like,

33:48

I had to get Dan, I had to get

33:50

into a relationship. I'm I'm gonna be MIA for a

33:52

month. I'm gonna be crying in

33:54

my

33:54

period. That's sound.

33:58

No. No. I'm not. Alright. Now

33:59

it's done for a wrong question. Are you

34:02

guys ready for this? Because weird, the

34:04

Al Yankovic story is free to

34:06

this week and on the Roku Channel. What

34:08

so what beloved and kind Hollywood

34:10

figure do you think is due

34:13

for a gritty roguish biopic? This

34:15

is this is the first one that came to

34:17

mind. But I what if we

34:19

had some nuts

34:20

what we had some love

34:22

biopic movie about Rick Maranis and where he

34:24

went after hiding some of the

34:26

kids. And what what he

34:29

and that and that explains his whole

34:31

story of why he left Hollywood or what he's been up to. And it

34:33

could be this nuts over the top

34:35

story that would be

34:38

you know, it could involve car chases and maybe

34:40

the yakuza and he could be

34:42

it could be like or or he could put

34:44

him just as like mini cameos and all

34:46

the movies that have come since and

34:49

we never noticed some kind of a thing. But, yeah, I was wondering what happened to that

34:51

guy. When he was in that mid mobile

34:53

commercial with Ryan

34:56

Reynolds recently, I was like, oh my

34:58

god. What did happen to Rick

35:00

Murad? It's like, he was a senior one on his

35:02

side. I was like, no. Is there a

35:04

story here? Oh,

35:05

no. Yeah. His his wife unfortunately

35:08

passed away and so he decided to quit

35:10

acting so that he could take care of his

35:12

kids

35:12

full time. That's freaking amazing.

35:14

Oh,

35:14

then we then we definitely need this movie then to, yeah, to tell that story.

35:16

Tell the story. What a great story? Tell that's

35:19

what a great story. Dude, person,

35:21

father, he is And

35:24

and and then and then, you know, if he wants to, he could come back

35:26

then and and, you know, like, ride the wave

35:28

of success that he he still deserves.

35:30

That'd be great, actually. Yeah. Like, no.

35:32

I would love a Rick Miranda's biopic just, like, showing him

35:35

and, like, just basically, like, celebrating his wife and,

35:37

like, you know, his family and Yeah.

35:40

Yeah.

35:40

And his family because his family is

35:42

so important to him. I'm

35:44

so I'm so sad. I'd never even heard of

35:46

that. But it

35:47

has to be funny. because

35:49

the

35:49

weird gang of big story

35:52

is funny. You got that

35:54

e. In my defense, I

35:56

had no idea Whatever its options to be had. You're

35:58

problematic. Yeah. You're

35:59

problematic. Oh, maybe Rick Marotta's is

36:02

gonna be I'm gonna look at the

36:04

lighter side of things and it could be again, it could be

36:06

about something else. Again, it could be about him

36:08

fighting crime and defeating

36:10

the yakuza. Boke. Yes.

36:12

You're not none of that. That's I wanna

36:14

see an action. I wanna see bullet train

36:16

starring Rick Burrattice. That's what I'm saying.

36:18

I I do cosign that.

36:20

that'd be very

36:21

funny. As someone that has seen the weird out

36:23

story, not

36:25

to

36:25

not to shameless

36:28

plug,

36:28

but he retweeted me about

36:30

it. And I was the only person at the premiere

36:32

that he retweeted. Wait. Wait. Dino Ratcliffe

36:34

or weird out. Oh my god.

36:37

I am so

36:40

sorry to hear that. had a

36:42

heart attack. I posted

36:42

about it, and I was like, Okay.

36:45

Cool. And I looked through the re tweets, and it was him.

36:47

And I was, like, no. For your words. that

36:49

I'm friends with someone, though, weird

36:52

now. Oh

36:54

my god. Oh, I see. Mailing

36:56

your autograph real quick homie. Let me look at this picture. Yeah.

36:58

You know what? No. Absolutely.

37:05

You guys don't deserve it.

37:07

Doesn't it? The last thing you little

37:09

sick twisted or mind

37:11

freaks deserve. Okay. October October six, I

37:13

said just watched weird Alejancovic at Beyond

37:16

Fest and never left harder at something in my entire

37:18

life. It was nonstop. I can't wait to watch it

37:20

a million

37:22

more time. which I will. The movie is phenomenal, you guys. This is not a this

37:24

is a plug for women. Yeah. It's so

37:26

funny now. It's so good.

37:28

It's so silly

37:30

and so freaking good, you

37:32

guys. It's the director and writer is the

37:34

guy that directed wrote, like, every

37:36

funnier die sketch. So you can only

37:38

expect how silly it can get.

37:40

Either way, I want the same

37:42

thing done for

37:42

Kiki Palmer. And I think it would be so

37:44

funny to see

37:47

that Disney child playing

37:50

herself now,

37:51

playing a

37:52

ten year old

37:53

and going through,

37:56

like, the from, like, the jump rope movie. That's the dogs, but they're

37:58

protecting their kids. Yes. Yes. Yes.

37:59

Charity has a a biopic. It's called a

38:02

true Jackson VP. Have you not watched

38:04

it? It's clearly,

38:06

none of you have seen

38:08

Akhilah in the B. That's the true bias.

38:11

Yes. seen Akhilah in the B. That's the true

38:13

bias. And then we go through

38:15

her keep it moving. Her best single,

38:17

my favorite single. I just think I

38:20

Kiki Palmer do such a great story of

38:22

herself.

38:22

sorry ah versa No.

38:23

My favorite of her works is when

38:26

she featured in push it to

38:28

the limit or by

38:30

Orban blue. Bitch,

38:32

you know that's my second. That's

38:34

my second. But keep it

38:36

moving. Keep it moving. Oh,

38:38

wait. only the black girls in

38:40

two thousand three that watched rogue

38:43

theory today. No. That's

38:46

all. We we can stand

38:48

and kinda Rise up mama.

38:54

Yeah. Rain. Nice.

38:59

Keep evolving. Okay.

39:01

Keep evolving. I

39:03

I dig it. What

39:05

do you think? What'd be? Okay.

39:07

So mine is a

39:10

biopic that I've basically

39:12

already almost started writing I

39:14

do this thing a lot where I will think

39:16

of someone that I

39:18

just haven't heard about or heard of in a

39:20

while like Rick Moreno's Someone

39:24

just disappeared from public eye, and I will go

39:26

and obsessively look up every single fucking

39:28

thing that I can about that person. And so

39:30

I recently did this with Eric von Denton.

39:32

Oh my god. played Andy

39:35

Brink, Brink, Brink, and

39:38

he also played the

39:40

the mean boyfriend in the princess

39:42

diaries. Mhmm. And so I

39:44

looked him up because I was like, he

39:46

was so good looking, like, what what what happened to him? Like,

39:49

he was, like, at his prime as, like,

39:51

a teen hard job in these, like,

39:53

Disney movies. Like, why

39:55

did he quit? So I found

39:57

out that he quit acting to join

39:59

a venture

40:02

capital firm and I

40:04

believe it's called Roseland

40:06

Capital, and it's a precious

40:08

metals asset management firm. So

40:11

what they do is if you

40:13

have gold, you take your gold

40:15

to Andy Brink Brinker. And

40:18

Andy Brink Brinker tells you how to

40:20

manage your gold and

40:22

silver and other precious metals. And

40:24

this is a true story, and

40:26

so I wanna know all the guy

40:28

went from doing little

40:30

skateboard flippy dos to

40:33

working at a at a

40:36

precious metal asset management

40:38

company. I have no idea how that

40:40

happened. I need the

40:40

whole story. So that's my Well,

40:42

now that I've was confused, but you know what?

40:44

Like, well, after watching Brink and knowing

40:47

that Briggs family was so

40:49

poor, I'm I'm glad that you're

40:51

working with gold. You know what I'm saying?

40:53

rose to the top. Yeah. Now he's now he's just rolling in gold.

40:55

He's just rolling. Huge reduction in it. Just, you

40:57

know, swimming in gold. Just say just

41:00

say that. say

41:02

-- No pants. -- diving into a pile of money.

41:06

Exactly. But, no, like, I loved, like,

41:08

Eric, but, like, he I loved Briggs so much.

41:10

Like, I I

41:12

I'm honestly and shocked that he's, like, not a famous

41:14

actor to this day because, like, he sort of, like I

41:16

don't know. I don't know. Like, he wasn't, like, a Leonardo

41:18

Caprio, but, like, he sort of, like,

41:21

was, like, had that vibe. I don't know. He was, like,

41:23

a very handsome kid. Yeah. He did. He

41:25

was, like,

41:25

a handsome teen. He had

41:27

that, like, Disney. teen, like,

41:30

heartthrob thing, or, like, he could have totally

41:32

been in a bunch of other, like,

41:34

princess Diana -- Three weeks. -- movies.

41:37

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. week. I

41:40

wanna I

41:40

wanna know the full Eric Vondatin story.

41:42

That's my that's my favorite

41:44

by okay. I'm gonna give that the

41:46

rogue question winner medal of

41:48

the day because I I love doing so

41:51

much. I loved Eric Boggling. Yay.

41:53

And I'm a child. And you bring

41:55

a brand new feature. So, yes, the

41:57

Eric Bondett in store needs to be

41:59

told on Roku

41:59

next, please. But I loved all of

42:02

your theories and all of your amazing

42:04

ideas. are wonderful people, and I love talking with you guys

42:06

always. You guys thank you for your time. I love

42:08

talking to you guys. You guys are the best

42:10

that you're so funny and

42:12

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42:14

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42:16

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42:18

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42:20

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42:26

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42:28

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42:32

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42:36

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42:37

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42:39

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42:43

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