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Welcome back to New Rockstars, and Prince is
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sure he wasn't the only powerful woman who got
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promotion in Wakanda forever. Evil
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a laying from Seinfeld, also known as
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Belle, got promoted to the head of the CIA
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after throwing her ex husband under
0:13
the bus for betraying the country
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just because Everett wanted to be invited
0:17
to the cookout. That's so stupid. Alright. Just let
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let them betray the country a little bit. Alright? But,
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no, I think that something sinister is brewing
0:24
in the galaxy, keep brain. Okay. I don't think that
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she's just looking out for the country. I
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think that Val's brain could secretly
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be surrounded by a red skull.
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This is wrong theory. The show only pits the wildest
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theories for the energy titles that we love. A show
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made possible by the support for the lovely people
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at NorVPN. More those beautiful human
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beings. A little bit. So my name is MT, and
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Gord Moe with me today is the most wonderful
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wonderful what kind of river
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breakdown are in the world just like
0:51
your clemons. What's going on guys? If you guys have
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not if you guys have not seen that
0:54
breakdown, go watch that because Why?
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Because your clemons goes in. All
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day
0:59
every day. You know, it's really funny, which I just
1:01
realized. There's a piece of
1:03
Whitney's breakdown in my breakdown. I
1:07
put what name's breakdown of the midnight
1:09
angels into my breakout. So you
1:12
will also get I
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mean, we need to get there in
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my best synergy. And if you watch
1:17
my breakdown on the costumes, I
1:19
also throw to this video of Jessica's
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So you'll also need to see a little picture
1:24
of Jessica pop up in my
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video, which is fun.
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So guess what just what mean? Just our friends
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and we like each other. Hi. Give
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me give me
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Yeah. Look right. Actually, no. Keep going. I
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just spilled green juice all over my Oh my
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god.
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Oh, the pickled juice. Oh, boy. It's a
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pickled juice. Oh, it's a aging -- It's
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a aging one. -- today's spell brought
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to you by athletic
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greens. And we're the
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best friends in the world. It's Winnie, my
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lady again. What's going on with me? Hey.
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I'm good. How's it
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going out, Desi?
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IE. Hi. Hi. Let's talk about
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boys later. Okay? Let's go. Let's go.
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And of
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course, my brother from another mother.
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It is Brad and Barrick. What's going on, Brad?
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Indeed. It's so good to see you again. It's so good
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to be back on road period. I feel like it's been
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so long have so much It's
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been so long since we've been on a wrong theory together.
2:13
It's
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building up inside of me. It wants to just
2:15
explode out of my pores. You you're going
2:18
back to your screen producer Brandon days, and I don't
2:20
like
2:20
it. It's gonna be
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on screen for me. It's
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gonna screen producer Brandon.
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I'm doing my screen
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producer Brandon
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all day ever Huron's
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screen, you better be bottomless, and that's
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it. Right. Sounds good.
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III
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didn't make the rules. I didn't make the rules. Bottomless
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brands. Let's go. It's
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ordered that at crunch. The
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bottom was random. Alright, guys. Let's
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not get to a let's go into our first topic for
2:44
today because I have a feeling that there
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there could be a life possibility here that Val,
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Contesa, Valentina, AlAgra, they
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fontaine, the first, I don't know,
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is an avatar for the red skull.
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Mhmm. And there's couple reasons why
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I believe this. And we know from
3:01
like the comics that could test a Valentina,
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leopard de Fontaine, was madam hydra
3:05
for a little bit. And we also
3:08
know that Captain America New World order is coming
3:10
up and New World Order, the actual New World
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Order Organization, was a hydroorganization
3:15
run by the Red Skull. And
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if you look at, like, the way the val dresses, especially,
3:19
you know, helping the winter soldier in the end
3:22
of Black Widow, she dresses a lot like
3:24
the red skull. And I feel like that is intentional.
3:26
She wears, like, red. She has, like, the
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I don't know. She dresses, like, Red skull and his
3:30
uniform back when he was a
3:32
being peak asshole. I don't
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know.
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I wanna look this up. Lots of flexi
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I don't remember. Exact time it was. It was
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black
3:40
ponytail, and you could see that perfect
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lined or I remember it. The purple Oh,
3:44
it's the best hair.
3:45
Yeah. Yeah. And Val is also very
3:48
interested in super soldiers like Red Skull.
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She like, runs up to
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Johnny Mayonnaise and he's like, hey, you look really
3:55
nice. And, yeah, I like they how you took the
3:57
serum. It's real nice. Also, we know from
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Avengers Infinity War and Endgame
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that Red School was on FormMeere. So, like,
4:03
everyone's like, how how does Red School get from
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FormMeere to the planet Earth. And I understand
4:08
what you guys are thinking. However, if you
4:10
remember from, like, after the sacrifices
4:12
made on Formir, a huge beam of lights,
4:14
much like the beam of light that sent Red
4:17
Skull II warm air in the first place
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happens. And I think that through that beam of
4:21
light, he was sent through
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the cosmos, and potentially into the
4:26
brain of or the
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body of a Cortesa Valentina library,
4:30
Fontaine, who could potentially be like
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a descendant or or
4:34
something. But, like, I think the reason why
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Val wears a a little a
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purple streak in her hair is because it's
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Marvel's way of, like, teasing red skull's
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obsession with the Tesser acting, like, met meshing
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it together and making purple. It's
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like, hey. And and,
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like, red and blue together make purple?
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Exactly.
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Take that
4:54
back to elementary school. I still don't think that's
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correct. I still don't
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think that's right. But, like, you know, we we saw
5:01
from from Infiniti were endgame, but, like, the
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Red Skull is, like, this weird ghost for.
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Like, he's, like, a weird, like, wreath.
5:07
He's a bottomless man. He's a bottomless Right?
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He's bottomless.
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Yeah. Bottomless. Bottomless is branded of the
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MCU. Yeah. It is. What?
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And as always, let her let her just
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clarify because we have
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a lot of sayings here at New Rockstars
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Eight Chetan, Three Bang. Now
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we have bottomless Brandon. As always,
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this is not
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dirty. This is not a dirty. He's wearing.
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He's wearing
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a pair
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a line of his slacks that he actually
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sells against. Yeah. Bob's actually
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They administered.
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So it's, like, it's bottomless because it never
5:39
ends, you know. But
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There's no end. There's no end. No end.
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No end in sight. It sounds
5:45
like the name of, like, a fable. It's the
5:46
tail of bottoming this brand.
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It's brand -- It's brand. -- going.
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But, no, I think that there is possibility
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here that that we could be setting up a potential
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resurrection of the Red Skull in the MCU.
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Because the Red Skull is one of the
6:01
most iconic Captain America villains
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-- Yeah. -- by heart. Every that's his main
6:06
villain. And to to get rid of him and
6:08
take him off the table after Captain America one,
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they just sent him off him to space. Never to be
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seen again. Not realistic. I don't
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I don't buy that for a second. I think that Marvel
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Studios is setting Valup to be the new
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red skull. And she's gonna one
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day, she's gonna rip off her mask like her daddy
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or or the red school. Be like, hey, it's
6:25
me. I have a disease under here actually
6:27
just like Red
6:28
Skull. I What do you what do you guys think? I
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have a question and I have a comment.
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Mhmm. I'll do my question. Yeah,
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I'll do both, but I'll do the question first.
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I like the idea of her being descendant of Red
6:39
School. I also do thoroughly agree with you I
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think the way red school just disappeared
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isn't good enough. So I do think he'd be
6:45
coming back. Do you think he could just be
6:47
a variant or she could be a variant of
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red
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school? There's a different universe where red school
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is a woman in his bound tina bow.
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That is a fabulous point.
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I freaking love that point because that is so true. We
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know from what if that there was a red
7:00
skull that potentially opened up a gateway
7:02
to another universe without weird tentacle
7:05
people -- Mhmm. -- who were coming from.
7:07
So, like, there's the possibility that another
7:09
Brett Skol variant did the same thing and actually
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went through a portal and went and ended
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up another universe much like Captain
7:16
Carter did. At the end of what if. So
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yeah, I like that idea a lot. We're just like, hey,
7:20
it's another variant of there's no red skull
7:22
here, so I'm just gonna be the
7:23
red skull here. gonna be I'll let this universe
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because why not?
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The non general control. The
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American American control. And
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my one comment is I like
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the idea that it's maybe the blue
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strip, but once you just assume
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the blue stripe in her hair, you know how
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like people have, like, a
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birds smartphone on their
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skull, and it makes their hair white.
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Oh, oh, yeah. And you have
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one. No brain has one. It does that.
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My brain has no heat. Oh.
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Never mind.
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She said that's where the devil touched me. Okay.
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Never mind. What? Let
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me go back to what I would say. No.
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We should have spoke. We should never go.
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A lot of kids are like, yeah, my mom
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said, like, that's where an angel touched me or
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that's where, like,
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start. No. From the sky, your grandma was like, yeah. Well,
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you're going to hell. I was touched by the
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I love that grandma.
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I love that grandma.
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It's the mark of the beast. Do you think there could
8:24
just be the pause ability that, like,
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this is horrible analogy. But, like,
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Anna and Elsa and Frozen, she got,
8:31
like, sniped by, like, a cane
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and got that blue streak in her hair.
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I'm not trying to take this wrong theory. I'm
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just saying That would be Tell me more about
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this hair
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strip. I didn't know. But
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I mean, that that would be, like, really interesting.
8:46
It sounds like side effect of, like, some type of transfer.
8:48
I don't know.
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But we
8:49
really I like that idea. Yeah.
8:51
Or I mean, they kind of, you know,
8:53
rogue. They then famously has, like, the white
8:55
streak in the hair.
8:56
Yeah. They they in the
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fox universe, right, they invented a reason why
9:00
she had, like, that white streak
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wasn't just like a character choice. When when she
9:03
was happened magneto from doing the device --
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Oh. -- and, like, it permanently
9:07
gave it a streak in our sense of liberty. It
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also well, that idea, Jessica, kind
9:12
of relates, like, Greek mythology. Right? Achilles,
9:14
the reason Achilles has the one weak
9:16
spot in his heel is because when he was
9:18
dipped in the water that made
9:20
him, like, the greatest warrior and made him, like, a physical
9:22
--
9:22
Mhmm. -- where he was held at the heel,
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that thought was, like, never covered with the water.
9:26
Mhmm. But that's why he was he
9:28
has, like, that one weakness right there. You
9:30
think god took Valentina
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by the hair.
9:35
What a hair strand is like?
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It's like a baby soft spot. And
9:40
if you took her the blue streak, it's
9:42
like a distress
9:43
button. Her front and now have never closed
9:45
up fully. And so now she's got this purple streak.
9:47
Yes. This is her
9:49
sauce. On. We they're, like, always talking
9:51
about it. And then to you, she's,
9:52
like, I I like you guys to know that it's just my
9:54
baby soft spot. With my baby soft spot.
9:57
I've never heard it. Now, MT, in your
9:59
your initial theory here, you did use the term Avatar.
10:02
Do you see Val as like,
10:04
yeah, an Avatar of Red Skull and he's
10:06
like influencing her And he's like
10:08
speaking to her a
10:09
la, like, the green goblin to Norman Osborn.
10:11
He's like in her head. Or is
10:14
he like
10:14
That's why it's a blue streak. She's
10:17
part
10:17
of the time. Oh, I'm part
10:19
of the way of part of the time.
10:22
Part of you and part of the beef. She's she
10:24
sees you. Or is it, like, yeah,
10:27
like, the red skull. Right? He's stuck
10:29
on Veremir. His job is to guard the soul stone.
10:31
It's gone. For me, he's like, you can leave now.
10:33
He's like, great. Time out of here. And he comes
10:35
back to Earth and he's like, man, I feel
10:37
like a woman, and he just like takes
10:40
the form of a
10:40
woman, like, He wants to be a true self.
10:43
Yeah. Yeah. He finally deserves
10:45
to express himself because they're like Nazi Germany.
10:47
He is not allowed to express himself as a female.
10:50
He's supposed to be the strong
10:51
leader. And he's like super nazi. Right?
10:53
He's more nazi than the nazi's. He's like, I'm
10:55
all way
10:56
nazi baby. And he's like, I can't be
10:58
dressing like a woman. They want to respect
11:00
me, but now he can finally take on his
11:02
full form as a
11:03
woman. Do you
11:04
do you see him? That is His val
11:06
acts actually Red Skull? Or is she being influenced
11:08
by Red Skull in your theory? What which
11:10
do you you see it?
11:13
I think that Val is
11:15
being think it's it might be a mix of
11:17
both. I think it might be like a green goblin
11:19
situation. We're like, that might
11:21
have been like a green goblin situation.
11:24
We
11:24
got one of those
11:25
on our hands. That's a
11:27
classic. And every time we get one of
11:29
those bad boys.
11:33
You know, I think that, you
11:35
know, like like, there's possibly
11:37
that Val could have been a normal woman living on
11:39
Earth. And then Rhett's goal, like, beams
11:42
it to her body. It's like, alright. Now, you got Rhett's goal
11:44
person now. And so, like, which would
11:47
which would explain how she introduced herself
11:49
to
11:51
Captain Rebecca well,
11:53
captain Johnny Walker.
11:55
US agent. John Walker. This
11:58
is alright. Johnny I'm trying
12:00
not to say Johnny Manning because I want them to be beat
12:02
to him. Yes. Johnny
12:03
Bennett. We're
12:04
not being beat to We're not being beat to
12:06
Johnny Manning.
12:07
Yes, Robert. Yes, John Bennett. There's
12:09
the act There's a one way you're saying, and
12:11
you've done a great job.
12:13
But Johnny Man is He's
12:15
monster. He's
12:16
a monster. a monster. He's a monster.
12:18
Hey. Wait. So
12:20
we created that monster. The military created
12:22
that monster. I didn't create that monster. Not
12:24
my not my taxes. Look, not my
12:26
taxes. Not mom one. Not
12:28
my
12:29
mom, sir. Not my mom monster. Not
12:31
my serious mama, please. When
12:33
Val introduced herself to John and Walker, she's like,
12:36
My name is, like, Val, but, like, she's just, okay.
12:38
No. My real name is Cortesa Valentino. Alright.
12:41
But you can call me Val. It's like, but don't
12:43
call me Val because, like, I've actually the red
12:45
skull you can call me Val. Because, like, I think
12:47
that he's just, like, getting used to the bodies, like,
12:49
call me Val, but, like, is this a
12:51
fucking
12:52
act? So, like, we don't have to really
12:53
Does that explain why Everett Ross
12:56
and Val broke up. Like,
12:57
the the
12:57
woman being married was not influenced
13:00
by Redsco. Go by the way. I
13:02
was gonna say, do you think that
13:04
this is like like
13:07
like a scroll scenario in which
13:10
the
13:11
loving and wonderful wife
13:13
lady Val who loved Martin
13:15
Freeman so much and
13:17
she was like, oh my god, Hitcheggers
13:19
guy to the galaxy was good, babe. And
13:22
she, like, loved him. You know? Like,
13:25
like, maybe that version of her got
13:27
replaced by Red Skull, and then
13:29
she was like, bitch, I want a divorce and
13:31
also I fucking hate you.
13:33
And, like, that just, like, lived her
13:35
life as an asshole from the non
13:37
out. Like, that's my
13:39
I think if if it happened, that's
13:41
my theory on.
13:42
I do love. I love that. It would make a lot
13:44
of sense. I she said that she said a lot
13:46
of mean things -- Right. -- towards the end of
13:48
their
13:48
marriage. So, like -- Right. -- maybe you could have
13:50
been me, Nazi stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You could
13:52
have been, like, It just starts reading
13:55
my
13:55
gift. It's like everyone's like, I don't know
13:57
about this. The real devil could
13:59
be on another planet. They could get back together,
14:01
it could still
14:02
happen. We don't know. He can fight against
14:04
her. She comes back to and she was before,
14:06
you know. She was always like, Everett,
14:09
You're always leaving the toilet seat up
14:11
and it really pisses me off. Also, we should
14:13
have made Poland. Let's go. Right.
14:16
I mean, it's like, you guys are not very
14:17
famous.
14:18
Yeah. You keep saying That's a red
14:20
flag. I'm just trying to have dinner. But also,
14:22
like, this would be like having a val
14:24
secretly be the redsco would be very much
14:27
in line with the luck that Everett Ross,
14:29
the character in the comics -- Mhmm. -- has
14:31
because that dude was, like, the most luckiest
14:33
dude ever. Like, he's most
14:36
most unluckiest agents ever. So, like, ever
14:38
gonna be, like, oh, no. I secretly dated the
14:40
head of hydro. Oh, I'm very
14:42
sure. Like, that would be, like, the biggest, like, oh,
14:44
I goofed. Thank you. Man,
14:47
I goofed. It's
14:49
barely married a Nazi supervisor. Whoops.
14:52
Whoops. Whoops. What happens? Happened
14:54
to Grimes. Anyway, Yes.
15:10
No. What do you guys think of this theory of
15:13
of thou be secretly being the red
15:15
skull? Do you guys think that, like, the red skull? It's
15:17
possible that the red skull could have infiltrated
15:20
her body and ghost
15:21
form? Or is this theory to
15:23
bogus, bogus, bogus, or bogus,
15:25
take it away red I think you've made
15:27
a compelling argument here, MT. I'm gonna
15:30
give this a rocus. I do like this idea
15:32
Okay. -- of of the reds I do
15:34
want the reds go back. Love the reds go
15:38
Love what they love that character would love to see more
15:40
of him. We're so happy to see him in Infinity War
15:42
and Endgame. Let's bring him back. I do
15:44
like it. I like the idea that, yeah, he's somehow
15:47
taking power. Now I don't wanna give Val
15:50
I wanna give Val a lot of agency here too.
15:52
So I want I I don't like the idea that she's being
15:54
manipulated. III want her to choose
15:57
to be with Redsco when I do like
15:59
the
15:59
idea, so I will give it a ROGUS. Yes.
16:01
So you want her to choose to be I want her
16:03
to choose
16:03
equal. don't want her to speak. You know what? Yeah.
16:06
Sure.
16:06
The brand is totally feminist. You
16:08
guys
16:08
are inspired by this brand, and this
16:10
is a very branded thing to say. He's okay with
16:13
not too. I don't know.
16:15
That's very on branded. And next
16:17
time. Oh, that
16:19
was good. That was
16:20
-- Not good. -- but I didn't like that.
16:24
Oh, what do you think with me? No. I think
16:27
this is Roki's as hell. Although
16:29
I'm I'm going with my theory. I
16:31
think she was
16:31
replaced. I think that'd
16:32
be a great
16:33
reason for their
16:34
divorce, but think you would be really
16:36
sick if she was somehow, like, replaced
16:39
by, like, the ghost of the red
16:41
skull or, like, the spirit or, like,
16:43
the descendant or somehow.
16:45
Like, I think that that would be really, really
16:48
interesting. So I'm gonna
16:50
I'm gonna I'm gonna double Ruggies. One
16:52
Ruggies for your
16:53
theory. One Ruggies for my new kids. Sorry.
16:55
Yes. I'll give you all this advice. You
16:58
all speak really well. What
17:00
do you think, Jessica?
17:01
I was gonna say bogus until you said
17:03
brand it's on brandor or whatever.
17:05
No. I No. No. I
17:08
was gonna give it a bogus because, you know, I
17:10
like row theories. And
17:13
that was row. That
17:14
was very row.
17:15
Okay. So I would love to see it. So I
17:17
guess I'm very biased because I'm like, I just
17:19
wanna see it.
17:20
So I just wanna see the Elaine
17:22
be evil. Yeah.
17:23
I just wanna see the Elaine. Yeah. I just wanna see
17:25
the Elaine. I think I just
17:27
wanna see it as a really good reason
17:29
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17:29
rogue. Yes. Honestly, I wanted them
17:31
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that's why. Yeah.
17:34
I should think about that. Maybe if I just don't wanna
17:36
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17:40
You have to speak truth to power. You gotta you gotta
17:43
manifest these things. Yeah. It's
17:45
It's true. It's true. Well, thanks guys.
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Alright. Folks. Ladies
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21:19
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wherever you're at. Please listen
21:23
to us. I've had this theory for a really
21:25
long time. It is about fast and the furious
21:28
full disclosure. Gotta shout out my
21:30
very sweet fiancee. Brett entirely.
21:33
Very nice guy. He actually brought
21:35
this theory to my attention, and then the two
21:37
of us expanded on it together. However,
21:39
I must give him initial credit. As
21:41
you guys may or may not know, fast and the
21:43
furious trailer, we're shooting this today on Thursday.
21:46
Tomorrow, Friday, the fast and the furious
21:48
trailer comes
21:49
out, but y'all are listening to this on Saturday.
21:51
So hopefully --
21:52
Yes. -- yesterday, you've already watched it.
21:54
Just watch the trailer. You watch me and
21:56
Tommy break it down for you. We're doing that.
21:59
Hope you watched
22:00
it. And I'm just
22:01
gonna do that. And now you know things about
22:03
it. So What
22:05
you may not have picked up on,
22:07
however, is that every
22:10
fast and mysterious movie has
22:12
escalated to ridiculous proportions
22:15
for the next movie, for the next movie, for the next
22:17
movie. But I've been doing a rewatch
22:19
all this past week to get ready for this trailer
22:21
dropping. And I've
22:24
noticed that almost
22:26
everything that has happened in the fast and
22:28
the furious, no matter how ridiculous, has
22:31
at one point been foreshadowed in
22:33
a previous movie. And so what I
22:35
am theorizing today is
22:37
that in the next movie,
22:40
then Diesel will have to drag race
22:42
Satan himself or another supernatural
22:45
entity. I like it. Because
22:49
There's nowhere else for this series
22:51
to go at this point. In
22:53
Fast nine, in the last movie, they went
22:55
to space. They went to
22:57
space. That's seven. They
22:59
jumped through three separate
23:02
skyscrapers in Dubai in
23:04
a car Like, they've been
23:06
in the ocean. They've been underground. They've
23:09
been in caves. They've been literally everywhere.
23:12
The only place that they haven't gone
23:14
is to a supernatural realm
23:17
of some kind or hell itself. I
23:20
I think it's gonna be hell itself because
23:22
I think that that's the next,
23:24
like, realistic thing that they can do is, like, burrow
23:26
into the earth. But my evidence
23:29
my evidence is not
23:30
scary. Yeah. I think the
23:32
venue is gonna go over the service. Yeah.
23:35
I think that they're gonna have to do that. But
23:38
every movie has kind of like predicted the next
23:40
one. Right? So, like, if you go back to
23:42
the first one, it's you know, they say
23:44
something about, oh, if we were
23:46
doing this on boats, what happens in the next
23:48
movie? Mhmm. They do a lot of boats. Okay.
23:52
I rewatched, I think, which one was I
23:54
think was Fast Five last night. Fast
23:56
Five, ludicrous makes a joke
23:58
about them having to go to
24:00
space. They go to space in fast nine.
24:03
Going
24:03
under another one, they made a prediction,
24:05
oh, what are we gonna do? Like, jump
24:08
jump out of an airplane or
24:10
whatever, they drive cars
24:12
out of a helicopter. Like,
24:13
they they always do the thing that they
24:15
joke about doing. So in the ninth
24:18
movie, there's a whole scene
24:20
where Tyria
24:23
Gibson realizes that they
24:26
have all, like, just, like, survived
24:29
everything. Like, they've all none
24:31
of them have died. Oh, yeah. Sorry.
24:33
They brought someone back from the dead. Right?
24:35
Or This is why I'm this is why I'm
24:37
not good at rogue theory because my thoughts
24:39
are so all over the place. I never do
24:42
my own theories because they're so hard to follow,
24:44
and I'm really sorry. But a fun fact
24:46
about the fast universe really quick
24:49
is that they bring back characters
24:51
to life all the time. Right.
24:53
And also for some reason,
24:56
Paul Walker's character is still
24:58
alive in the franchise. Oh,
25:00
the Paul Walker, the actor, it's dead.
25:03
Yeah. He he just went on to raise
25:05
a family but he's still
25:07
alive because they still talk about
25:09
him in each movie. And they're like, oh, yeah.
25:11
You talked to Brian O'Connor lately. They're
25:13
like, Brian's doing great. So are the
25:15
kids? Like and so they do that
25:17
all the time. So he's the he's, like,
25:19
absolutely still alive in the fast
25:21
and the furious universe and is ironically
25:24
the only person in the fast and the furious
25:26
universe who can't actually come back to life
25:28
because almost everybody in the franchise has
25:30
died and come back to life -- Mhmm. --
25:33
including Vindiesel. Vindiesel dies in
25:35
fast and it comes back to life. In fast
25:37
seven, it's nuts. So back to fast nine.
25:39
Fast nine, they they're
25:41
talking about how
25:44
it's nuts that they're going into space,
25:46
and they're probably gonna die, and
25:48
it's wild. And
25:51
ludicrous and tirese are just talking
25:53
about like, hey, do you think
25:55
that maybe we're immortal? Because
25:58
none of us have ever actually died
26:01
doing any of these things. Like, Han
26:03
came back to life, then diesel came
26:05
back to life. Like, everyone has
26:08
even if they've gotten, like, gravely injured,
26:10
have somehow ended up surviving.
26:14
And obviously, the rest of the crew is, like,
26:17
making fun of them, and they're, like, no.
26:19
There's no way. You guys are so dumb. Like,
26:21
this is impossible. It's not possible.
26:25
I don't know. I think it's possible.
26:27
I think it's possible that the fast crew
26:30
is immortal. And I think
26:33
that Satan has somehow blessed them
26:36
with their powers And I think
26:38
that they are cursed and irrational
26:40
at the same time. And what I think
26:42
that they're going to do is I think that they're
26:44
going to go to hell to rescue Gal
26:47
Gadot's soul and have her
26:49
character come back from Come back from sex
26:51
line. Okay.
26:53
Okay. That's my theory. So sorry. It was all
26:55
over the I
26:55
sincerely apologize guys. So
26:57
they're kind of cursed immorally, kind of
26:59
like the parts of the Caribbean. Right? Like, they wanna
27:01
die, but they can't
27:02
die. Like --
27:02
Yeah. -- stuck in this life of racing
27:05
and they it never ends. I think your biggest
27:07
because I love
27:08
this. I love this, Whitney. And I wanna see them embrace
27:10
the devil. I
27:11
don't even understand what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna
27:13
chokey.
27:13
Okay. So what I would say is I love that poster
27:16
we got for fast ten. It's been diesel
27:18
holding the rosary. Yeah.
27:23
A re Is Bette Jesus gonna
27:25
say that. I knew
27:25
that. Is Bette Jesus the son of God?
27:28
He is
27:28
Jesus and
27:29
he has to raise the
27:30
dead.
27:30
He's the Christ Thank you all
27:31
of humanity. It's all of your shoulders.
27:34
I'm more like, that's what he was going for since the
27:36
first fast movie. He's the son of God.
27:38
He's the greatest racer of all time and
27:40
the sexiest man, as you can
27:42
tell from the triple x franchise. We're all
27:44
the all the women wanna sleep with Endease
27:47
on that franchise. Well, I think they're
27:49
contractually obligated, unfortunately.
27:53
Sorry. Your character has to do it. I
27:55
I of the producer, these would be sorry.
27:58
I don't know. III
28:00
would like the idea too of of this being like
28:02
a loss scenario where Vent diesel
28:04
actually died in the first race
28:06
in the first movie and, like, ended in a
28:08
crash. And he's just so
28:11
is, like, No. I'm still alive, but I have all
28:13
these friends and his family and he's ready to
28:15
come and see him build
28:16
money. It's like he died twenty years
28:18
ago. He's been dead. This is just like
28:20
-- No story. -- here's the name Dominic
28:22
Toronto for forty years.
28:25
But that's his other question.
28:26
The big nitrous explosion,
28:28
banking. 7II
28:31
would love it. Like, I I think it'd be hilarious if they
28:33
can't die because of a nitrous explosion or,
28:35
like, they just drank nitrous. It's
28:36
like, you know what? We can't I don't even know
28:38
where I'm at. But, no, I like the I really
28:40
like this idea of the fast franchise just going
28:43
super
28:43
crazy. Yeah. I'm like
28:44
not I like how it just it just doesn't take
28:46
itself super serious. But also
28:48
a super super freaking dope -- Mhmm. -- with all
28:50
the action. So, like, I would love to see, like,
28:53
a freaking tournament and hell
28:55
--
28:55
Yeah. -- just like, you know, let's just freaking race.
28:57
It's very It's too up as crazy stuff.
28:58
It's very seven feel. Right? Like, you have
29:01
to play chess with with death. In
29:03
order
29:03
and for your soul, like, the idea that you're
29:05
racing for your soul. I I think it's a
29:07
lot of fun, you know. I
29:08
But can I say something? Can
29:10
I please Can I say something? Yes. I
29:12
never get to say anything, Michelle. This
29:15
time,
29:15
I get to speak We try to make sure I'm just hearing
29:17
talk. I never get to talk enough
29:20
on our sweet, sweet program. Two
29:22
things. Where does Hobbs and Shaw fit on this
29:24
list? It doesn't fit
29:26
on this list. Hobbs and Shaw. Shaw
29:29
is the only one who will work
29:31
with Vindiesel because Vindiesel
29:33
and the rock are not friend
29:36
and they did not like each other and
29:38
the rock has completely, like,
29:40
sworn him
29:41
off. Like, doesn't even
29:43
acknowledge that he's in the fast films anymore.
29:45
Like, he hates
29:46
that guy. I've seen those videos, but is that
29:48
being the last Fazaf furious movie I
29:50
see, I've seen, and it involves them
29:53
going to Hawaii and fighting
29:54
-- Yeah. -- with a lot of Hawaiians. Is there an
29:56
opportunity that this movie? How
29:59
does that does it fit in the phases of
30:01
the past and periods? Could they just be Like,
30:03
they're, like, they mentioned Hawaii in opposite shots
30:05
with the next film. They're in Hawaii for
30:08
fast ten. Honestly,
30:11
may be.
30:13
But I think that I think that Hobbs and
30:15
Shaw aren't cursed like the
30:17
family is. I think that you have
30:19
to be in to the
30:21
family.
30:21
The family.
30:22
He's a very talented and the to their
30:24
friend of the family. Well,
30:25
they too. The majority is not. Second
30:27
question, what if they all
30:29
just die? Can that
30:31
happen? Were they all just die? I
30:33
mean, eventually, all I don't think
30:35
so. Because because
30:38
the predictions made in Fast nine,
30:40
They always follow through on the predictions,
30:43
and I really think that because it was predicted
30:45
that they can't die, I think that they can't
30:47
die, dude. I just think they can't. I like
30:49
the idea of him being like, whoa. We must
30:51
be immortal, and then they die in the next film. And
30:53
then they die. That's what it's like. Just kidding
30:55
fast ten. Yes. Yep. You know, it'd be super
30:57
crazy. Like, this is obviously ridiculous. But,
31:00
like, if they did a ghost ride across
31:02
a -- Yeah. -- with fast and furious,
31:05
And that's, like, it's like But this
31:07
little sense goes
31:08
right. It's like these guys.
31:09
Have god's
31:10
dreams are too long. Yeah. Go reap their
31:12
songs. But who's
31:14
running your ways?
31:15
I'm No problem, Susan.
31:17
You're like, it's just the fast family just
31:19
running away from ghost rider from from forty
31:21
days. Thing Eric would do if the first
31:23
time we see Mafisto in the MCU is
31:25
at the end of Fast
31:26
ten.
31:27
What do you think here? Oh, damn. They'll be happy.
31:29
What kind of room now? Well,
31:32
I mean, when you're you're touching on some
31:34
like quantum theory here a little bit.
31:36
Right? The idea that by in
31:38
quantum physics, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
31:40
screw this up, but, like, our various act
31:42
of observing something changes
31:44
it. Even if we don't mess with it, by
31:46
observing something, we we change it.
31:48
And if we don't watch it, it does something different.
31:51
So like the idea that we as an audience
31:53
are watching these fast and
31:55
the furious movies, and we keep putting money
31:57
into them. And they keep doing well at the box
31:59
office. Despite many other projects
32:01
failing, somehow they keep going, like,
32:04
they can't die because of our
32:06
observation. Like, If they put
32:08
out a movie where they all die and
32:10
no one sees it, then they can die
32:12
and then they could be dead and then they're dead forever.
32:14
Dominic Terrell's house is not far from
32:17
us. Right? Because it has the most traffic.
32:20
And I only know this because I
32:21
always do
32:22
an ice skating rink nearby yet.
32:24
And there was, like, street and it was The Gooney's
32:26
house. People always go to the Gooney's house. So they go
32:28
to the Nightaround Elm Street house or, like, you
32:31
know, used to be the breakaway house. Over there
32:33
is the worst bro. Like, jeez.
32:35
Well, the traffic's because of Dominic Terreiro.
32:37
It's his fault.
32:38
They're not a
32:39
Trek Terreiro. They're on track to show
32:41
up.
32:41
Whatever in my It's Van Diesel's fucking
32:43
fault. Van Diesel's. And, Jessica, you
32:45
brought up Hobbs and Shaw. Right? That
32:48
movie, it's like Hobbs and Shaw. They none
32:50
of them ever lose a
32:51
fight, right, because of their contracts in the real
32:53
world. Like, they none of them can
32:54
lose a fight.
32:55
So they're they're stuck in this struggle
32:57
of no winning, no losing, this concept
32:59
because they got so close to the family. They're not part
33:01
of the family. They got close to it, and it started affecting
33:04
them and they're like, can't They're
33:06
stuck in the central crisis. Right?
33:08
And so, like, whoever the antagonists
33:10
are in the in this movie in
33:12
each fast and the furious movie. Right? And in theory,
33:15
if if Whitney's theory is true that these guys
33:17
are immortal. They can't die. Our antagonists
33:19
are our
33:20
protagonist. Right? They're the ones trying to stop
33:22
this madness. Trying to get rid of these people,
33:24
but they can't. So we should always be rooting
33:26
for the bad guy in these past the Furious movies
33:29
for the sake of these souls that need to be
33:31
For the sake of Dominic Toretto, soul,
33:33
so it can finally ring Let's
33:34
take a loose strand of salt. And I have
33:36
one last thing.
33:37
Drew Jones -- Yes, sir. -- just
33:39
like this and said, this is all going to end with Dom
33:42
Drag race in the Reaper to protect his family.
33:44
He's already won he's already won once in
33:46
secret. Roman figured out figured
33:48
that out. A little in nine, but eventually, death
33:51
comes to take what's
33:52
due. That is this is a fifth
33:54
person on the freeway right now. See?
33:56
You said Oh, real stuff and it's hot.
33:59
Grimbergasted.
34:00
The devil's high surpass. Ten now. I
34:02
think you can't be any of these
34:03
-- Right. -- these supernatural figures, honestly.
34:06
I wouldn't be I would not be surprised. I mean,
34:08
and I don't think it's gonna be supernatural like vampires
34:10
like -- Mhmm. -- bring in the next month or whatever. I think
34:13
it's gonna be specifically,
34:15
like, Satan, Grim
34:17
Reaper, dead.
34:18
It can't be spelled correctly. Like,
34:20
No. Because Vindy's is the price thing. Yeah.
34:22
Vindy's only Yeah. I'm telling you, like, if they
34:24
if they don't do the the double thing, they're they're
34:26
gonna go back in time. They're gonna do time
34:28
travel. I wanted to be, like, whack your faces though.
34:30
I wanna focus on straight down cars.
34:33
They have to do an exercise. It's it's You're
34:37
gonna give
34:37
you an access to him on ludicrous. Why?
34:40
Yay. Yay.
34:42
Where does this happen to ludicrous? Where
34:45
does it Is
34:45
it like the Transformers universe to try to do
34:47
x as well? think the ludicrous has one of
34:49
my favorite, like like in the credits,
34:52
like, how his name is written because
34:54
it makes me happy every
34:55
time. It's just ludicrous.
34:58
Ludicrous fridges. And I'm,
35:00
like, dad is There's a wild
35:03
west bridge. Which is But actually,
35:05
one of my favorite ludicrous lyrics is,
35:07
ludicrous, man. These bitches want my last name,
35:09
and I'm, like, They want the last name Bridges.
35:12
They all wanna be missus
35:13
Bridges. Oh, you're right.
35:15
Yes.
35:16
All the women wanna be All women wanna
35:18
be missus Bridges.
35:21
I give Whitney a very broad road.
35:24
Yes. Yes.
35:25
I will also
35:26
give Whitney a devil role guess because
35:28
I like this idea. Like, I like when they get
35:30
where it's
35:30
super ridiculous. So -- Yes. -- race
35:32
the devil and win.
35:34
Yeah. And win.
35:36
What do
35:36
you think, Jessica?
35:37
I said a romance too. I don't know fast and mysterious.
35:40
So, literally, I will believe anything when you tells
35:42
me. Yeah. You
35:42
know, you gotta
35:43
watch believe I watched the other
35:45
kids. Hobbs and Shaw. I watched Hobbs and
35:47
Shaw, and I watched Tokyo drift
35:49
when I was a child. And that's a surprise.
35:51
Wow. I'm just Because
35:53
I'm trying to be wise, unless you Unless
35:56
my car is turning
35:58
into a mechanized robot
36:00
like
36:00
transformers, and I am not watching him.
36:03
Okay. Thank you. Honestly, so
36:05
just They kind of do
36:07
is the thing. So Like, the movie
36:09
skin is going more and more ridiculous
36:12
as they go on. And shit like that starts
36:14
to
36:14
happen. Maybe it's that I also don't
36:16
care for Tyria Skips. There's
36:19
a lot of entertainers and then that
36:21
I'm like, nah. Why
36:24
am I crazy fighting the wrong and why
36:26
is the wrong fighting him? Tyreece is a good person.
36:28
Actually, take that out. Edit that out because
36:30
he doesn't pay his child support.
36:32
Keep going.
36:32
Oh, no one. Didn't know that.
36:35
Lita Kris is my favorite. I Tanish
36:37
to the character is just the most
36:39
perfect
36:39
character. I just love him. For your child support everybody.
36:42
Unless they're annoying children. Just kidding.
36:45
Oh, so it's now it's time for
36:47
our rogue
36:47
question. Are you guys ready for this? Yeah.
36:50
Yeah. Is
36:50
it about child support?
36:51
Let's do it. It's
36:54
a Super Bowl weekend than doing the sports
36:56
this weekend. The sports
36:57
aperture. My goodness
36:58
people are gonna be drunk. And we all know
37:00
that Rihanna is going to kill it in this
37:02
year's halftime show. And everyone's going to
37:05
try to guess who will be the special guest
37:07
to join her on stage. So for today's
37:09
Row question, I want you guys to give me your
37:11
Roga's choice of a hero or villain
37:13
to come out during Rihanna
37:14
set. Very special cameo in entertaining
37:16
the crowd. You know who I think
37:19
would be
37:21
funny?
37:23
Oh, wait. It has to be a hero or villain.
37:25
I
37:25
can be whatever. You're a villain. Well,
37:27
I think this person's a hero and a villain.
37:29
Liam Mason. Okay. Oh.
37:31
Just absolutely on the top.
37:33
Yeah. And then we have a little reunion because
37:35
we're big, Breonna. Were they both in
37:37
the --
37:38
Battle Shack? Battleship. Battleship?
37:41
Battleship. Battleship.
37:43
Battleship. Battleship.
37:47
Bambam sinking. You
37:49
know, imagine it's like the battleship
37:51
PR is still alive. It's like, you know, this would
37:54
be great to bring the battle also
37:57
The Hasbro cinematic
37:59
universe exists, the Hasbro cinematic universe
38:01
with
38:04
you know,
38:04
transformers, it's still there, baby. Oh, that's
38:06
true. Battleship is This is true. They're
38:09
they're
38:09
about to make a car's movie about
38:11
their
38:13
Hot Wheels company. Did did
38:14
Briana have a song for battleship? I forget. Did
38:16
she get special join?
38:17
For that for that I mean, she had to have I don't
38:19
know. She had to have, but I don't think she did
38:21
because it would have been popular. And I'd and I
38:23
know her entire disaggregate
38:25
me.
38:25
Mitch Trump. got
38:27
I got
38:27
I got I got I got sick of Lisa. I got
38:29
two answers for this rogue question. Jeff Carrion
38:32
knows my first quarter. Answer. I think I do.
38:34
Can you bring out Jubilee, baby? And she does the
38:36
fireworks show. Come on, Rose. Eight. Yeah. Tesla.
38:40
Tesla.
38:42
Tesla makes more sense. No.
38:43
Jubilee. No. Jubilee and
38:46
then Dazzler can
38:47
go somewhere else. He's taking a pain
38:49
on the field. He's
38:50
taking picture. This is like a little real
38:52
world and I stole this one from my
38:54
wife shout out Whitney for stealing
38:56
stuff. Oh, significant other. That was
38:58
plagiarism after the call. She won
39:00
this idea, and it's
39:01
great. When umbrella hits she's gonna
39:03
do umbrella. You know it. You know who comes out to dance
39:05
baby. Spider
39:06
Man saw
39:07
Holland. He redoes it. His
39:09
dad comes back out, baby.
39:11
He doesn't lie. He doesn't lie. He doesn't lie.
39:13
He doesn't lie. He doesn't
39:15
lie. He doesn't like to watch that again. His so
39:18
good. And it's
39:18
so Like, Zendaya would propose to Tom at
39:21
that point. She
39:21
was on my show, baby. She just
39:23
saw live. She was through Mars. I
39:25
know.
39:26
She was. Bruno Box.
39:28
I like that. What's the big room? Yeah. He'd better
39:30
show up. I just wanna vote for Brandon's
39:32
now. Like, I just do that. Like, I don't care.
39:35
That's what I want. I don't give a shit what I
39:37
wanted. I want this now. I
39:40
do like that a lot. You
39:43
don't have anything now? You just don't go for anything?
39:45
I can. What was I gonna say?
39:48
Mm-mm. I had
39:50
something. I just don't
39:51
remember. No. Because Brandon's
39:53
was a dog that's like, you know, Brandon. Come
39:55
out. I will also move to Brandon's. Brandon,
39:58
our road question went today because I do wanna
40:00
see Tom Holland do the umbrella
40:02
thing
40:02
again.
40:02
I just want Tom Holland. That's all. I'll
40:04
let my wife know. Carrie
40:08
wins.
40:08
Oh, I forgot. Carrie
40:09
wins the rogue question. I'm
40:13
gonna mail her her rogue your breath. Thanks
40:15
so that that don't be coming in the
40:16
mail. Don't sense up my
40:17
wife, but that is it. Empty.
40:20
Quit sending stuff to my wife. Keep
40:24
my wife's bail out your mother
40:26
in mind. But
40:31
that is it for this episode of Rogue Fury. Thanks
40:33
to our amazing guests, Jessica Clements, Winnie
40:35
Van Lining him, and Brandon Barrick. Support our
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guys next time. Goodbye. Bye.
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