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Why VAL is the RED SKULL REBORN!

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Why VAL is the RED SKULL REBORN!

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0:00

Welcome back to New Rockstars, and Prince is

0:02

sure he wasn't the only powerful woman who got

0:04

promotion in Wakanda forever. Evil

0:06

a laying from Seinfeld, also known as

0:08

Belle, got promoted to the head of the CIA

0:11

after throwing her ex husband under

0:13

the bus for betraying the country

0:15

just because Everett wanted to be invited

0:17

to the cookout. That's so stupid. Alright. Just let

0:19

let them betray the country a little bit. Alright? But,

0:22

no, I think that something sinister is brewing

0:24

in the galaxy, keep brain. Okay. I don't think that

0:26

she's just looking out for the country. I

0:29

think that Val's brain could secretly

0:31

be surrounded by a red skull.

0:33

This is wrong theory. The show only pits the wildest

0:36

theories for the energy titles that we love. A show

0:38

made possible by the support for the lovely people

0:40

at NorVPN. More those beautiful human

0:42

beings. A little bit. So my name is MT, and

0:44

Gord Moe with me today is the most wonderful

0:47

wonderful what kind of river

0:49

breakdown are in the world just like

0:51

your clemons. What's going on guys? If you guys have

0:53

not if you guys have not seen that

0:54

breakdown, go watch that because Why?

0:56

Because your clemons goes in. All

0:59

day

0:59

every day. You know, it's really funny, which I just

1:01

realized. There's a piece of

1:03

Whitney's breakdown in my breakdown. I

1:07

put what name's breakdown of the midnight

1:09

angels into my breakout. So you

1:12

will also get I

1:13

mean, we need to get there in

1:14

my best synergy. And if you watch

1:17

my breakdown on the costumes, I

1:19

also throw to this video of Jessica's

1:22

So you'll also need to see a little picture

1:24

of Jessica pop up in my

1:26

video, which is fun.

1:28

So guess what just what mean? Just our friends

1:30

and we like each other. Hi. Give

1:32

me give me

1:33

Yeah. Look right. Actually, no. Keep going. I

1:35

just spilled green juice all over my Oh my

1:37

god.

1:38

Oh, the pickled juice. Oh, boy. It's a

1:40

pickled juice. Oh, it's a aging -- It's

1:43

a aging one. -- today's spell brought

1:45

to you by athletic

1:46

greens. And we're the

1:47

best friends in the world. It's Winnie, my

1:49

lady again. What's going on with me? Hey.

1:52

I'm good. How's it

1:53

going out, Desi?

1:54

IE. Hi. Hi. Let's talk about

1:56

boys later. Okay? Let's go. Let's go.

2:00

And of

2:01

course, my brother from another mother.

2:03

It is Brad and Barrick. What's going on, Brad?

2:05

Indeed. It's so good to see you again. It's so good

2:07

to be back on road period. I feel like it's been

2:10

so long have so much It's

2:11

been so long since we've been on a wrong theory together.

2:13

It's

2:13

building up inside of me. It wants to just

2:15

explode out of my pores. You you're going

2:18

back to your screen producer Brandon days, and I don't

2:20

like

2:20

it. It's gonna be

2:21

on screen for me. It's

2:22

gonna screen producer Brandon.

2:25

I'm doing my screen

2:26

producer Brandon

2:27

all day ever Huron's

2:28

screen, you better be bottomless, and that's

2:30

it. Right. Sounds good.

2:32

III

2:32

didn't make the rules. I didn't make the rules. Bottomless

2:35

brands. Let's go. It's

2:37

ordered that at crunch. The

2:40

bottom was random. Alright, guys. Let's

2:42

not get to a let's go into our first topic for

2:44

today because I have a feeling that there

2:47

there could be a life possibility here that Val,

2:49

Contesa, Valentina, AlAgra, they

2:51

fontaine, the first, I don't know,

2:53

is an avatar for the red skull.

2:56

Mhmm. And there's couple reasons why

2:58

I believe this. And we know from

3:01

like the comics that could test a Valentina,

3:03

leopard de Fontaine, was madam hydra

3:05

for a little bit. And we also

3:08

know that Captain America New World order is coming

3:10

up and New World Order, the actual New World

3:12

Order Organization, was a hydroorganization

3:15

run by the Red Skull. And

3:17

if you look at, like, the way the val dresses, especially,

3:19

you know, helping the winter soldier in the end

3:22

of Black Widow, she dresses a lot like

3:24

the red skull. And I feel like that is intentional.

3:26

She wears, like, red. She has, like, the

3:28

I don't know. She dresses, like, Red skull and his

3:30

uniform back when he was a

3:32

being peak asshole. I don't

3:34

know.

3:35

I wanna look this up. Lots of flexi

3:37

I don't remember. Exact time it was. It was

3:39

black

3:40

ponytail, and you could see that perfect

3:42

lined or I remember it. The purple Oh,

3:44

it's the best hair.

3:45

Yeah. Yeah. And Val is also very

3:48

interested in super soldiers like Red Skull.

3:50

She like, runs up to

3:52

Johnny Mayonnaise and he's like, hey, you look really

3:55

nice. And, yeah, I like they how you took the

3:57

serum. It's real nice. Also, we know from

3:59

Avengers Infinity War and Endgame

4:01

that Red School was on FormMeere. So, like,

4:03

everyone's like, how how does Red School get from

4:06

FormMeere to the planet Earth. And I understand

4:08

what you guys are thinking. However, if you

4:10

remember from, like, after the sacrifices

4:12

made on Formir, a huge beam of lights,

4:14

much like the beam of light that sent Red

4:17

Skull II warm air in the first place

4:19

happens. And I think that through that beam of

4:21

light, he was sent through

4:24

the cosmos, and potentially into the

4:26

brain of or the

4:28

body of a Cortesa Valentina library,

4:30

Fontaine, who could potentially be like

4:32

a descendant or or

4:34

something. But, like, I think the reason why

4:37

Val wears a a little a

4:39

purple streak in her hair is because it's

4:42

Marvel's way of, like, teasing red skull's

4:44

obsession with the Tesser acting, like, met meshing

4:46

it together and making purple. It's

4:47

like, hey. And and,

4:49

like, red and blue together make purple?

4:51

Exactly.

4:54

Take that

4:54

back to elementary school. I still don't think that's

4:57

correct. I still don't

4:59

think that's right. But, like, you know, we we saw

5:01

from from Infiniti were endgame, but, like, the

5:03

Red Skull is, like, this weird ghost for.

5:05

Like, he's, like, a weird, like, wreath.

5:07

He's a bottomless man. He's a bottomless Right?

5:09

He's bottomless.

5:09

Yeah. Bottomless. Bottomless is branded of the

5:11

MCU. Yeah. It is. What?

5:14

And as always, let her let her just

5:16

clarify because we have

5:18

a lot of sayings here at New Rockstars

5:21

Eight Chetan, Three Bang. Now

5:23

we have bottomless Brandon. As always,

5:25

this is not

5:26

dirty. This is not a dirty. He's wearing.

5:28

He's wearing

5:29

a pair

5:29

a line of his slacks that he actually

5:31

sells against. Yeah. Bob's actually

5:33

They administered.

5:36

So it's, like, it's bottomless because it never

5:39

ends, you know. But

5:40

There's no end. There's no end. No end.

5:43

No end in sight. It sounds

5:45

like the name of, like, a fable. It's the

5:46

tail of bottoming this brand.

5:48

It's brand -- It's brand. -- going.

5:52

But, no, I think that there is possibility

5:54

here that that we could be setting up a potential

5:57

resurrection of the Red Skull in the MCU.

5:59

Because the Red Skull is one of the

6:01

most iconic Captain America villains

6:04

-- Yeah. -- by heart. Every that's his main

6:06

villain. And to to get rid of him and

6:08

take him off the table after Captain America one,

6:10

they just sent him off him to space. Never to be

6:12

seen again. Not realistic. I don't

6:14

I don't buy that for a second. I think that Marvel

6:16

Studios is setting Valup to be the new

6:18

red skull. And she's gonna one

6:20

day, she's gonna rip off her mask like her daddy

6:23

or or the red school. Be like, hey, it's

6:25

me. I have a disease under here actually

6:27

just like Red

6:28

Skull. I What do you what do you guys think? I

6:30

have a question and I have a comment.

6:32

Mhmm. I'll do my question. Yeah,

6:34

I'll do both, but I'll do the question first.

6:37

I like the idea of her being descendant of Red

6:39

School. I also do thoroughly agree with you I

6:41

think the way red school just disappeared

6:43

isn't good enough. So I do think he'd be

6:45

coming back. Do you think he could just be

6:47

a variant or she could be a variant of

6:50

red

6:50

school? There's a different universe where red school

6:52

is a woman in his bound tina bow.

6:54

That is a fabulous point.

6:56

I freaking love that point because that is so true. We

6:58

know from what if that there was a red

7:00

skull that potentially opened up a gateway

7:02

to another universe without weird tentacle

7:05

people -- Mhmm. -- who were coming from.

7:07

So, like, there's the possibility that another

7:09

Brett Skol variant did the same thing and actually

7:11

went through a portal and went and ended

7:14

up another universe much like Captain

7:16

Carter did. At the end of what if. So

7:18

yeah, I like that idea a lot. We're just like, hey,

7:20

it's another variant of there's no red skull

7:22

here, so I'm just gonna be the

7:23

red skull here. gonna be I'll let this universe

7:25

because why not?

7:26

The non general control. The

7:30

American American control. And

7:32

my one comment is I like

7:34

the idea that it's maybe the blue

7:36

strip, but once you just assume

7:38

the blue stripe in her hair, you know how

7:41

like people have, like, a

7:42

birds smartphone on their

7:43

skull, and it makes their hair white.

7:44

Oh, oh, yeah. And you have

7:46

one. No brain has one. It does that.

7:48

My brain has no heat. Oh.

7:50

Never mind.

7:52

She said that's where the devil touched me. Okay.

7:54

Never mind. What? Let

7:57

me go back to what I would say. No.

8:03

We should have spoke. We should never go.

8:09

A lot of kids are like, yeah, my mom

8:11

said, like, that's where an angel touched me or

8:13

that's where, like,

8:15

start. No. From the sky, your grandma was like, yeah. Well,

8:17

you're going to hell. I was touched by the

8:20

I love that grandma.

8:21

I love that grandma.

8:22

It's the mark of the beast. Do you think there could

8:24

just be the pause ability that, like,

8:26

this is horrible analogy. But, like,

8:29

Anna and Elsa and Frozen, she got,

8:31

like, sniped by, like, a cane

8:34

and got that blue streak in her hair.

8:37

I'm not trying to take this wrong theory. I'm

8:40

just saying That would be Tell me more about

8:42

this hair

8:42

strip. I didn't know. But

8:44

I mean, that that would be, like, really interesting.

8:46

It sounds like side effect of, like, some type of transfer.

8:48

I don't know.

8:49

But we

8:49

really I like that idea. Yeah.

8:51

Or I mean, they kind of, you know,

8:53

rogue. They then famously has, like, the white

8:55

streak in the hair.

8:56

Yeah. They they in the

8:58

fox universe, right, they invented a reason why

9:00

she had, like, that white streak

9:01

wasn't just like a character choice. When when she

9:03

was happened magneto from doing the device --

9:05

Oh. -- and, like, it permanently

9:07

gave it a streak in our sense of liberty. It

9:10

also well, that idea, Jessica, kind

9:12

of relates, like, Greek mythology. Right? Achilles,

9:14

the reason Achilles has the one weak

9:16

spot in his heel is because when he was

9:18

dipped in the water that made

9:20

him, like, the greatest warrior and made him, like, a physical

9:22

--

9:22

Mhmm. -- where he was held at the heel,

9:24

that thought was, like, never covered with the water.

9:26

Mhmm. But that's why he was he

9:28

has, like, that one weakness right there. You

9:30

think god took Valentina

9:32

by the hair.

9:35

What a hair strand is like?

9:37

It's like a baby soft spot. And

9:40

if you took her the blue streak, it's

9:42

like a distress

9:43

button. Her front and now have never closed

9:45

up fully. And so now she's got this purple streak.

9:47

Yes. This is her

9:49

sauce. On. We they're, like, always talking

9:51

about it. And then to you, she's,

9:52

like, I I like you guys to know that it's just my

9:54

baby soft spot. With my baby soft spot.

9:57

I've never heard it. Now, MT, in your

9:59

your initial theory here, you did use the term Avatar.

10:02

Do you see Val as like,

10:04

yeah, an Avatar of Red Skull and he's

10:06

like influencing her And he's like

10:08

speaking to her a

10:09

la, like, the green goblin to Norman Osborn.

10:11

He's like in her head. Or is

10:14

he like

10:14

That's why it's a blue streak. She's

10:17

part

10:17

of the time. Oh, I'm part

10:19

of the way of part of the time.

10:22

Part of you and part of the beef. She's she

10:24

sees you. Or is it, like, yeah,

10:27

like, the red skull. Right? He's stuck

10:29

on Veremir. His job is to guard the soul stone.

10:31

It's gone. For me, he's like, you can leave now.

10:33

He's like, great. Time out of here. And he comes

10:35

back to Earth and he's like, man, I feel

10:37

like a woman, and he just like takes

10:40

the form of a

10:40

woman, like, He wants to be a true self.

10:43

Yeah. Yeah. He finally deserves

10:45

to express himself because they're like Nazi Germany.

10:47

He is not allowed to express himself as a female.

10:50

He's supposed to be the strong

10:51

leader. And he's like super nazi. Right?

10:53

He's more nazi than the nazi's. He's like, I'm

10:55

all way

10:56

nazi baby. And he's like, I can't be

10:58

dressing like a woman. They want to respect

11:00

me, but now he can finally take on his

11:02

full form as a

11:03

woman. Do you

11:04

do you see him? That is His val

11:06

acts actually Red Skull? Or is she being influenced

11:08

by Red Skull in your theory? What which

11:10

do you you see it?

11:13

I think that Val is

11:15

being think it's it might be a mix of

11:17

both. I think it might be like a green goblin

11:19

situation. We're like, that might

11:21

have been like a green goblin situation.

11:24

We

11:24

got one of those

11:25

on our hands. That's a

11:27

classic. And every time we get one of

11:29

those bad boys.

11:33

You know, I think that, you

11:35

know, like like, there's possibly

11:37

that Val could have been a normal woman living on

11:39

Earth. And then Rhett's goal, like, beams

11:42

it to her body. It's like, alright. Now, you got Rhett's goal

11:44

person now. And so, like, which would

11:47

which would explain how she introduced herself

11:49

to

11:51

Captain Rebecca well,

11:53

captain Johnny Walker.

11:55

US agent. John Walker. This

11:58

is alright. Johnny I'm trying

12:00

not to say Johnny Manning because I want them to be beat

12:02

to him. Yes. Johnny

12:03

Bennett. We're

12:04

not being beat to We're not being beat to

12:06

Johnny Manning.

12:07

Yes, Robert. Yes, John Bennett. There's

12:09

the act There's a one way you're saying, and

12:11

you've done a great job.

12:13

But Johnny Man is He's

12:15

monster. He's

12:16

a monster. a monster. He's a monster.

12:18

Hey. Wait. So

12:20

we created that monster. The military created

12:22

that monster. I didn't create that monster. Not

12:24

my not my taxes. Look, not my

12:26

taxes. Not mom one. Not

12:28

my

12:29

mom, sir. Not my mom monster. Not

12:31

my serious mama, please. When

12:33

Val introduced herself to John and Walker, she's like,

12:36

My name is, like, Val, but, like, she's just, okay.

12:38

No. My real name is Cortesa Valentino. Alright.

12:41

But you can call me Val. It's like, but don't

12:43

call me Val because, like, I've actually the red

12:45

skull you can call me Val. Because, like, I think

12:47

that he's just, like, getting used to the bodies, like,

12:49

call me Val, but, like, is this a

12:51

fucking

12:52

act? So, like, we don't have to really

12:53

Does that explain why Everett Ross

12:56

and Val broke up. Like,

12:57

the the

12:57

woman being married was not influenced

13:00

by Redsco. Go by the way. I

13:02

was gonna say, do you think that

13:04

this is like like

13:07

like a scroll scenario in which

13:10

the

13:11

loving and wonderful wife

13:13

lady Val who loved Martin

13:15

Freeman so much and

13:17

she was like, oh my god, Hitcheggers

13:19

guy to the galaxy was good, babe. And

13:22

she, like, loved him. You know? Like,

13:25

like, maybe that version of her got

13:27

replaced by Red Skull, and then

13:29

she was like, bitch, I want a divorce and

13:31

also I fucking hate you.

13:33

And, like, that just, like, lived her

13:35

life as an asshole from the non

13:37

out. Like, that's my

13:39

I think if if it happened, that's

13:41

my theory on.

13:42

I do love. I love that. It would make a lot

13:44

of sense. I she said that she said a lot

13:46

of mean things -- Right. -- towards the end of

13:48

their

13:48

marriage. So, like -- Right. -- maybe you could have

13:50

been me, Nazi stuff. Yeah. Yeah. You could

13:52

have been, like, It just starts reading

13:55

my

13:55

gift. It's like everyone's like, I don't know

13:57

about this. The real devil could

13:59

be on another planet. They could get back together,

14:01

it could still

14:02

happen. We don't know. He can fight against

14:04

her. She comes back to and she was before,

14:06

you know. She was always like, Everett,

14:09

You're always leaving the toilet seat up

14:11

and it really pisses me off. Also, we should

14:13

have made Poland. Let's go. Right.

14:16

I mean, it's like, you guys are not very

14:17

famous.

14:18

Yeah. You keep saying That's a red

14:20

flag. I'm just trying to have dinner. But also,

14:22

like, this would be like having a val

14:24

secretly be the redsco would be very much

14:27

in line with the luck that Everett Ross,

14:29

the character in the comics -- Mhmm. -- has

14:31

because that dude was, like, the most luckiest

14:33

dude ever. Like, he's most

14:36

most unluckiest agents ever. So, like, ever

14:38

gonna be, like, oh, no. I secretly dated the

14:40

head of hydro. Oh, I'm very

14:42

sure. Like, that would be, like, the biggest, like, oh,

14:44

I goofed. Thank you. Man,

14:47

I goofed. It's

14:49

barely married a Nazi supervisor. Whoops.

14:52

Whoops. Whoops. What happens? Happened

14:54

to Grimes. Anyway, Yes.

15:10

No. What do you guys think of this theory of

15:13

of thou be secretly being the red

15:15

skull? Do you guys think that, like, the red skull? It's

15:17

possible that the red skull could have infiltrated

15:20

her body and ghost

15:21

form? Or is this theory to

15:23

bogus, bogus, bogus, or bogus,

15:25

take it away red I think you've made

15:27

a compelling argument here, MT. I'm gonna

15:30

give this a rocus. I do like this idea

15:32

Okay. -- of of the reds I do

15:34

want the reds go back. Love the reds go

15:38

Love what they love that character would love to see more

15:40

of him. We're so happy to see him in Infinity War

15:42

and Endgame. Let's bring him back. I do

15:44

like it. I like the idea that, yeah, he's somehow

15:47

taking power. Now I don't wanna give Val

15:50

I wanna give Val a lot of agency here too.

15:52

So I want I I don't like the idea that she's being

15:54

manipulated. III want her to choose

15:57

to be with Redsco when I do like

15:59

the

15:59

idea, so I will give it a ROGUS. Yes.

16:01

So you want her to choose to be I want her

16:03

to choose

16:03

equal. don't want her to speak. You know what? Yeah.

16:06

Sure.

16:06

The brand is totally feminist. You

16:08

guys

16:08

are inspired by this brand, and this

16:10

is a very branded thing to say. He's okay with

16:13

not too. I don't know.

16:15

That's very on branded. And next

16:17

time. Oh, that

16:19

was good. That was

16:20

-- Not good. -- but I didn't like that.

16:24

Oh, what do you think with me? No. I think

16:27

this is Roki's as hell. Although

16:29

I'm I'm going with my theory. I

16:31

think she was

16:31

replaced. I think that'd

16:32

be a great

16:33

reason for their

16:34

divorce, but think you would be really

16:36

sick if she was somehow, like, replaced

16:39

by, like, the ghost of the red

16:41

skull or, like, the spirit or, like,

16:43

the descendant or somehow.

16:45

Like, I think that that would be really, really

16:48

interesting. So I'm gonna

16:50

I'm gonna I'm gonna double Ruggies. One

16:52

Ruggies for your

16:53

theory. One Ruggies for my new kids. Sorry.

16:55

Yes. I'll give you all this advice. You

16:58

all speak really well. What

17:00

do you think, Jessica?

17:01

I was gonna say bogus until you said

17:03

brand it's on brandor or whatever.

17:05

No. I No. No. I

17:08

was gonna give it a bogus because, you know, I

17:10

like row theories. And

17:13

that was row. That

17:14

was very row.

17:15

Okay. So I would love to see it. So I

17:17

guess I'm very biased because I'm like, I just

17:19

wanna see it.

17:20

So I just wanna see the Elaine

17:22

be evil. Yeah.

17:23

I just wanna see the Elaine. Yeah. I just wanna see

17:25

the Elaine. I think I just

17:27

wanna see it as a really good reason

17:29

to vote

17:29

rogue. Yes. Honestly, I wanted them

17:31

out. When I vote rogue, guess half the time

17:33

that's why. Yeah.

17:34

I should think about that. Maybe if I just don't wanna

17:36

see it, I'm like, focus.

17:40

You have to speak truth to power. You gotta you gotta

17:43

manifest these things. Yeah. It's

17:45

It's true. It's true. Well, thanks guys.

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21:12

Alright. Folks. Ladies

21:14

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21:17

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21:19

-- mowing your lawn with your headphones in

21:21

wherever you're at. Please listen

21:23

to us. I've had this theory for a really

21:25

long time. It is about fast and the furious

21:28

full disclosure. Gotta shout out my

21:30

very sweet fiancee. Brett entirely.

21:33

Very nice guy. He actually brought

21:35

this theory to my attention, and then the two

21:37

of us expanded on it together. However,

21:39

I must give him initial credit. As

21:41

you guys may or may not know, fast and the

21:43

furious trailer, we're shooting this today on Thursday.

21:46

Tomorrow, Friday, the fast and the furious

21:48

trailer comes

21:49

out, but y'all are listening to this on Saturday.

21:51

So hopefully --

21:52

Yes. -- yesterday, you've already watched it.

21:54

Just watch the trailer. You watch me and

21:56

Tommy break it down for you. We're doing that.

21:59

Hope you watched

22:00

it. And I'm just

22:01

gonna do that. And now you know things about

22:03

it. So What

22:05

you may not have picked up on,

22:07

however, is that every

22:10

fast and mysterious movie has

22:12

escalated to ridiculous proportions

22:15

for the next movie, for the next movie, for the next

22:17

movie. But I've been doing a rewatch

22:19

all this past week to get ready for this trailer

22:21

dropping. And I've

22:24

noticed that almost

22:26

everything that has happened in the fast and

22:28

the furious, no matter how ridiculous, has

22:31

at one point been foreshadowed in

22:33

a previous movie. And so what I

22:35

am theorizing today is

22:37

that in the next movie,

22:40

then Diesel will have to drag race

22:42

Satan himself or another supernatural

22:45

entity. I like it. Because

22:49

There's nowhere else for this series

22:51

to go at this point. In

22:53

Fast nine, in the last movie, they went

22:55

to space. They went to

22:57

space. That's seven. They

22:59

jumped through three separate

23:02

skyscrapers in Dubai in

23:04

a car Like, they've been

23:06

in the ocean. They've been underground. They've

23:09

been in caves. They've been literally everywhere.

23:12

The only place that they haven't gone

23:14

is to a supernatural realm

23:17

of some kind or hell itself. I

23:20

I think it's gonna be hell itself because

23:22

I think that that's the next,

23:24

like, realistic thing that they can do is, like, burrow

23:26

into the earth. But my evidence

23:29

my evidence is not

23:30

scary. Yeah. I think the

23:32

venue is gonna go over the service. Yeah.

23:35

I think that they're gonna have to do that. But

23:38

every movie has kind of like predicted the next

23:40

one. Right? So, like, if you go back to

23:42

the first one, it's you know, they say

23:44

something about, oh, if we were

23:46

doing this on boats, what happens in the next

23:48

movie? Mhmm. They do a lot of boats. Okay.

23:52

I rewatched, I think, which one was I

23:54

think was Fast Five last night. Fast

23:56

Five, ludicrous makes a joke

23:58

about them having to go to

24:00

space. They go to space in fast nine.

24:03

Going

24:03

under another one, they made a prediction,

24:05

oh, what are we gonna do? Like, jump

24:08

jump out of an airplane or

24:10

whatever, they drive cars

24:12

out of a helicopter. Like,

24:13

they they always do the thing that they

24:15

joke about doing. So in the ninth

24:18

movie, there's a whole scene

24:20

where Tyria

24:23

Gibson realizes that they

24:26

have all, like, just, like, survived

24:29

everything. Like, they've all none

24:31

of them have died. Oh, yeah. Sorry.

24:33

They brought someone back from the dead. Right?

24:35

Or This is why I'm this is why I'm

24:37

not good at rogue theory because my thoughts

24:39

are so all over the place. I never do

24:42

my own theories because they're so hard to follow,

24:44

and I'm really sorry. But a fun fact

24:46

about the fast universe really quick

24:49

is that they bring back characters

24:51

to life all the time. Right.

24:53

And also for some reason,

24:56

Paul Walker's character is still

24:58

alive in the franchise. Oh,

25:00

the Paul Walker, the actor, it's dead.

25:03

Yeah. He he just went on to raise

25:05

a family but he's still

25:07

alive because they still talk about

25:09

him in each movie. And they're like, oh, yeah.

25:11

You talked to Brian O'Connor lately. They're

25:13

like, Brian's doing great. So are the

25:15

kids? Like and so they do that

25:17

all the time. So he's the he's, like,

25:19

absolutely still alive in the fast

25:21

and the furious universe and is ironically

25:24

the only person in the fast and the furious

25:26

universe who can't actually come back to life

25:28

because almost everybody in the franchise has

25:30

died and come back to life -- Mhmm. --

25:33

including Vindiesel. Vindiesel dies in

25:35

fast and it comes back to life. In fast

25:37

seven, it's nuts. So back to fast nine.

25:39

Fast nine, they they're

25:41

talking about how

25:44

it's nuts that they're going into space,

25:46

and they're probably gonna die, and

25:48

it's wild. And

25:51

ludicrous and tirese are just talking

25:53

about like, hey, do you think

25:55

that maybe we're immortal? Because

25:58

none of us have ever actually died

26:01

doing any of these things. Like, Han

26:03

came back to life, then diesel came

26:05

back to life. Like, everyone has

26:08

even if they've gotten, like, gravely injured,

26:10

have somehow ended up surviving.

26:14

And obviously, the rest of the crew is, like,

26:17

making fun of them, and they're, like, no.

26:19

There's no way. You guys are so dumb. Like,

26:21

this is impossible. It's not possible.

26:25

I don't know. I think it's possible.

26:27

I think it's possible that the fast crew

26:30

is immortal. And I think

26:33

that Satan has somehow blessed them

26:36

with their powers And I think

26:38

that they are cursed and irrational

26:40

at the same time. And what I think

26:42

that they're going to do is I think that they're

26:44

going to go to hell to rescue Gal

26:47

Gadot's soul and have her

26:49

character come back from Come back from sex

26:51

line. Okay.

26:53

Okay. That's my theory. So sorry. It was all

26:55

over the I

26:55

sincerely apologize guys. So

26:57

they're kind of cursed immorally, kind of

26:59

like the parts of the Caribbean. Right? Like, they wanna

27:01

die, but they can't

27:02

die. Like --

27:02

Yeah. -- stuck in this life of racing

27:05

and they it never ends. I think your biggest

27:07

because I love

27:08

this. I love this, Whitney. And I wanna see them embrace

27:10

the devil. I

27:11

don't even understand what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna

27:13

chokey.

27:13

Okay. So what I would say is I love that poster

27:16

we got for fast ten. It's been diesel

27:18

holding the rosary. Yeah.

27:23

A re Is Bette Jesus gonna

27:25

say that. I knew

27:25

that. Is Bette Jesus the son of God?

27:28

He is

27:28

Jesus and

27:29

he has to raise the

27:30

dead.

27:30

He's the Christ Thank you all

27:31

of humanity. It's all of your shoulders.

27:34

I'm more like, that's what he was going for since the

27:36

first fast movie. He's the son of God.

27:38

He's the greatest racer of all time and

27:40

the sexiest man, as you can

27:42

tell from the triple x franchise. We're all

27:44

the all the women wanna sleep with Endease

27:47

on that franchise. Well, I think they're

27:49

contractually obligated, unfortunately.

27:53

Sorry. Your character has to do it. I

27:55

I of the producer, these would be sorry.

27:58

I don't know. III

28:00

would like the idea too of of this being like

28:02

a loss scenario where Vent diesel

28:04

actually died in the first race

28:06

in the first movie and, like, ended in a

28:08

crash. And he's just so

28:11

is, like, No. I'm still alive, but I have all

28:13

these friends and his family and he's ready to

28:15

come and see him build

28:16

money. It's like he died twenty years

28:18

ago. He's been dead. This is just like

28:20

-- No story. -- here's the name Dominic

28:22

Toronto for forty years.

28:25

But that's his other question.

28:26

The big nitrous explosion,

28:28

banking. 7II

28:31

would love it. Like, I I think it'd be hilarious if they

28:33

can't die because of a nitrous explosion or,

28:35

like, they just drank nitrous. It's

28:36

like, you know what? We can't I don't even know

28:38

where I'm at. But, no, I like the I really

28:40

like this idea of the fast franchise just going

28:43

super

28:43

crazy. Yeah. I'm like

28:44

not I like how it just it just doesn't take

28:46

itself super serious. But also

28:48

a super super freaking dope -- Mhmm. -- with all

28:50

the action. So, like, I would love to see, like,

28:53

a freaking tournament and hell

28:55

--

28:55

Yeah. -- just like, you know, let's just freaking race.

28:57

It's very It's too up as crazy stuff.

28:58

It's very seven feel. Right? Like, you have

29:01

to play chess with with death. In

29:03

order

29:03

and for your soul, like, the idea that you're

29:05

racing for your soul. I I think it's a

29:07

lot of fun, you know. I

29:08

But can I say something? Can

29:10

I please Can I say something? Yes. I

29:12

never get to say anything, Michelle. This

29:15

time,

29:15

I get to speak We try to make sure I'm just hearing

29:17

talk. I never get to talk enough

29:20

on our sweet, sweet program. Two

29:22

things. Where does Hobbs and Shaw fit on this

29:24

list? It doesn't fit

29:26

on this list. Hobbs and Shaw. Shaw

29:29

is the only one who will work

29:31

with Vindiesel because Vindiesel

29:33

and the rock are not friend

29:36

and they did not like each other and

29:38

the rock has completely, like,

29:40

sworn him

29:41

off. Like, doesn't even

29:43

acknowledge that he's in the fast films anymore.

29:45

Like, he hates

29:46

that guy. I've seen those videos, but is that

29:48

being the last Fazaf furious movie I

29:50

see, I've seen, and it involves them

29:53

going to Hawaii and fighting

29:54

-- Yeah. -- with a lot of Hawaiians. Is there an

29:56

opportunity that this movie? How

29:59

does that does it fit in the phases of

30:01

the past and periods? Could they just be Like,

30:03

they're, like, they mentioned Hawaii in opposite shots

30:05

with the next film. They're in Hawaii for

30:08

fast ten. Honestly,

30:11

may be.

30:13

But I think that I think that Hobbs and

30:15

Shaw aren't cursed like the

30:17

family is. I think that you have

30:19

to be in to the

30:21

family.

30:21

The family.

30:22

He's a very talented and the to their

30:24

friend of the family. Well,

30:25

they too. The majority is not. Second

30:27

question, what if they all

30:29

just die? Can that

30:31

happen? Were they all just die? I

30:33

mean, eventually, all I don't think

30:35

so. Because because

30:38

the predictions made in Fast nine,

30:40

They always follow through on the predictions,

30:43

and I really think that because it was predicted

30:45

that they can't die, I think that they can't

30:47

die, dude. I just think they can't. I like

30:49

the idea of him being like, whoa. We must

30:51

be immortal, and then they die in the next film. And

30:53

then they die. That's what it's like. Just kidding

30:55

fast ten. Yes. Yep. You know, it'd be super

30:57

crazy. Like, this is obviously ridiculous. But,

31:00

like, if they did a ghost ride across

31:02

a -- Yeah. -- with fast and furious,

31:05

And that's, like, it's like But this

31:07

little sense goes

31:08

right. It's like these guys.

31:09

Have god's

31:10

dreams are too long. Yeah. Go reap their

31:12

songs. But who's

31:14

running your ways?

31:15

I'm No problem, Susan.

31:17

You're like, it's just the fast family just

31:19

running away from ghost rider from from forty

31:21

days. Thing Eric would do if the first

31:23

time we see Mafisto in the MCU is

31:25

at the end of Fast

31:26

ten.

31:27

What do you think here? Oh, damn. They'll be happy.

31:29

What kind of room now? Well,

31:32

I mean, when you're you're touching on some

31:34

like quantum theory here a little bit.

31:36

Right? The idea that by in

31:38

quantum physics, and I'm gonna I'm gonna

31:40

screw this up, but, like, our various act

31:42

of observing something changes

31:44

it. Even if we don't mess with it, by

31:46

observing something, we we change it.

31:48

And if we don't watch it, it does something different.

31:51

So like the idea that we as an audience

31:53

are watching these fast and

31:55

the furious movies, and we keep putting money

31:57

into them. And they keep doing well at the box

31:59

office. Despite many other projects

32:01

failing, somehow they keep going, like,

32:04

they can't die because of our

32:06

observation. Like, If they put

32:08

out a movie where they all die and

32:10

no one sees it, then they can die

32:12

and then they could be dead and then they're dead forever.

32:14

Dominic Terrell's house is not far from

32:17

us. Right? Because it has the most traffic.

32:20

And I only know this because I

32:21

always do

32:22

an ice skating rink nearby yet.

32:24

And there was, like, street and it was The Gooney's

32:26

house. People always go to the Gooney's house. So they go

32:28

to the Nightaround Elm Street house or, like, you

32:31

know, used to be the breakaway house. Over there

32:33

is the worst bro. Like, jeez.

32:35

Well, the traffic's because of Dominic Terreiro.

32:37

It's his fault.

32:38

They're not a

32:39

Trek Terreiro. They're on track to show

32:41

up.

32:41

Whatever in my It's Van Diesel's fucking

32:43

fault. Van Diesel's. And, Jessica, you

32:45

brought up Hobbs and Shaw. Right? That

32:48

movie, it's like Hobbs and Shaw. They none

32:50

of them ever lose a

32:51

fight, right, because of their contracts in the real

32:53

world. Like, they none of them can

32:54

lose a fight.

32:55

So they're they're stuck in this struggle

32:57

of no winning, no losing, this concept

32:59

because they got so close to the family. They're not part

33:01

of the family. They got close to it, and it started affecting

33:04

them and they're like, can't They're

33:06

stuck in the central crisis. Right?

33:08

And so, like, whoever the antagonists

33:10

are in the in this movie in

33:12

each fast and the furious movie. Right? And in theory,

33:15

if if Whitney's theory is true that these guys

33:17

are immortal. They can't die. Our antagonists

33:19

are our

33:20

protagonist. Right? They're the ones trying to stop

33:22

this madness. Trying to get rid of these people,

33:24

but they can't. So we should always be rooting

33:26

for the bad guy in these past the Furious movies

33:29

for the sake of these souls that need to be

33:31

For the sake of Dominic Toretto, soul,

33:33

so it can finally ring Let's

33:34

take a loose strand of salt. And I have

33:36

one last thing.

33:37

Drew Jones -- Yes, sir. -- just

33:39

like this and said, this is all going to end with Dom

33:42

Drag race in the Reaper to protect his family.

33:44

He's already won he's already won once in

33:46

secret. Roman figured out figured

33:48

that out. A little in nine, but eventually, death

33:51

comes to take what's

33:52

due. That is this is a fifth

33:54

person on the freeway right now. See?

33:56

You said Oh, real stuff and it's hot.

33:59

Grimbergasted.

34:00

The devil's high surpass. Ten now. I

34:02

think you can't be any of these

34:03

-- Right. -- these supernatural figures, honestly.

34:06

I wouldn't be I would not be surprised. I mean,

34:08

and I don't think it's gonna be supernatural like vampires

34:10

like -- Mhmm. -- bring in the next month or whatever. I think

34:13

it's gonna be specifically,

34:15

like, Satan, Grim

34:17

Reaper, dead.

34:18

It can't be spelled correctly. Like,

34:20

No. Because Vindy's is the price thing. Yeah.

34:22

Vindy's only Yeah. I'm telling you, like, if they

34:24

if they don't do the the double thing, they're they're

34:26

gonna go back in time. They're gonna do time

34:28

travel. I wanted to be, like, whack your faces though.

34:30

I wanna focus on straight down cars.

34:33

They have to do an exercise. It's it's You're

34:37

gonna give

34:37

you an access to him on ludicrous. Why?

34:40

Yay. Yay.

34:42

Where does this happen to ludicrous? Where

34:45

does it Is

34:45

it like the Transformers universe to try to do

34:47

x as well? think the ludicrous has one of

34:49

my favorite, like like in the credits,

34:52

like, how his name is written because

34:54

it makes me happy every

34:55

time. It's just ludicrous.

34:58

Ludicrous fridges. And I'm,

35:00

like, dad is There's a wild

35:03

west bridge. Which is But actually,

35:05

one of my favorite ludicrous lyrics is,

35:07

ludicrous, man. These bitches want my last name,

35:09

and I'm, like, They want the last name Bridges.

35:12

They all wanna be missus

35:13

Bridges. Oh, you're right.

35:15

Yes.

35:16

All the women wanna be All women wanna

35:18

be missus Bridges.

35:21

I give Whitney a very broad road.

35:24

Yes. Yes.

35:25

I will also

35:26

give Whitney a devil role guess because

35:28

I like this idea. Like, I like when they get

35:30

where it's

35:30

super ridiculous. So -- Yes. -- race

35:32

the devil and win.

35:34

Yeah. And win.

35:36

What do

35:36

you think, Jessica?

35:37

I said a romance too. I don't know fast and mysterious.

35:40

So, literally, I will believe anything when you tells

35:42

me. Yeah. You

35:42

know, you gotta

35:43

watch believe I watched the other

35:45

kids. Hobbs and Shaw. I watched Hobbs and

35:47

Shaw, and I watched Tokyo drift

35:49

when I was a child. And that's a surprise.

35:51

Wow. I'm just Because

35:53

I'm trying to be wise, unless you Unless

35:56

my car is turning

35:58

into a mechanized robot

36:00

like

36:00

transformers, and I am not watching him.

36:03

Okay. Thank you. Honestly, so

36:05

just They kind of do

36:07

is the thing. So Like, the movie

36:09

skin is going more and more ridiculous

36:12

as they go on. And shit like that starts

36:14

to

36:14

happen. Maybe it's that I also don't

36:16

care for Tyria Skips. There's

36:19

a lot of entertainers and then that

36:21

I'm like, nah. Why

36:24

am I crazy fighting the wrong and why

36:26

is the wrong fighting him? Tyreece is a good person.

36:28

Actually, take that out. Edit that out because

36:30

he doesn't pay his child support.

36:32

Keep going.

36:32

Oh, no one. Didn't know that.

36:35

Lita Kris is my favorite. I Tanish

36:37

to the character is just the most

36:39

perfect

36:39

character. I just love him. For your child support everybody.

36:42

Unless they're annoying children. Just kidding.

36:45

Oh, so it's now it's time for

36:47

our rogue

36:47

question. Are you guys ready for this? Yeah.

36:50

Yeah. Is

36:50

it about child support?

36:51

Let's do it. It's

36:54

a Super Bowl weekend than doing the sports

36:56

this weekend. The sports

36:57

aperture. My goodness

36:58

people are gonna be drunk. And we all know

37:00

that Rihanna is going to kill it in this

37:02

year's halftime show. And everyone's going to

37:05

try to guess who will be the special guest

37:07

to join her on stage. So for today's

37:09

Row question, I want you guys to give me your

37:11

Roga's choice of a hero or villain

37:13

to come out during Rihanna

37:14

set. Very special cameo in entertaining

37:16

the crowd. You know who I think

37:19

would be

37:21

funny?

37:23

Oh, wait. It has to be a hero or villain.

37:25

I

37:25

can be whatever. You're a villain. Well,

37:27

I think this person's a hero and a villain.

37:29

Liam Mason. Okay. Oh.

37:31

Just absolutely on the top.

37:33

Yeah. And then we have a little reunion because

37:35

we're big, Breonna. Were they both in

37:37

the --

37:38

Battle Shack? Battleship. Battleship?

37:41

Battleship. Battleship.

37:43

Battleship. Battleship.

37:47

Bambam sinking. You

37:49

know, imagine it's like the battleship

37:51

PR is still alive. It's like, you know, this would

37:54

be great to bring the battle also

37:57

The Hasbro cinematic

37:59

universe exists, the Hasbro cinematic universe

38:01

with

38:04

you know,

38:04

transformers, it's still there, baby. Oh, that's

38:06

true. Battleship is This is true. They're

38:09

they're

38:09

about to make a car's movie about

38:11

their

38:13

Hot Wheels company. Did did

38:14

Briana have a song for battleship? I forget. Did

38:16

she get special join?

38:17

For that for that I mean, she had to have I don't

38:19

know. She had to have, but I don't think she did

38:21

because it would have been popular. And I'd and I

38:23

know her entire disaggregate

38:25

me.

38:25

Mitch Trump. got

38:27

I got

38:27

I got I got I got sick of Lisa. I got

38:29

two answers for this rogue question. Jeff Carrion

38:32

knows my first quarter. Answer. I think I do.

38:34

Can you bring out Jubilee, baby? And she does the

38:36

fireworks show. Come on, Rose. Eight. Yeah. Tesla.

38:40

Tesla.

38:42

Tesla makes more sense. No.

38:43

Jubilee. No. Jubilee and

38:46

then Dazzler can

38:47

go somewhere else. He's taking a pain

38:49

on the field. He's

38:50

taking picture. This is like a little real

38:52

world and I stole this one from my

38:54

wife shout out Whitney for stealing

38:56

stuff. Oh, significant other. That was

38:58

plagiarism after the call. She won

39:00

this idea, and it's

39:01

great. When umbrella hits she's gonna

39:03

do umbrella. You know it. You know who comes out to dance

39:05

baby. Spider

39:06

Man saw

39:07

Holland. He redoes it. His

39:09

dad comes back out, baby.

39:11

He doesn't lie. He doesn't lie. He doesn't lie.

39:13

He doesn't lie. He doesn't

39:15

lie. He doesn't like to watch that again. His so

39:18

good. And it's

39:18

so Like, Zendaya would propose to Tom at

39:21

that point. She

39:21

was on my show, baby. She just

39:23

saw live. She was through Mars. I

39:25

know.

39:26

She was. Bruno Box.

39:28

I like that. What's the big room? Yeah. He'd better

39:30

show up. I just wanna vote for Brandon's

39:32

now. Like, I just do that. Like, I don't care.

39:35

That's what I want. I don't give a shit what I

39:37

wanted. I want this now. I

39:40

do like that a lot. You

39:43

don't have anything now? You just don't go for anything?

39:45

I can. What was I gonna say?

39:48

Mm-mm. I had

39:50

something. I just don't

39:51

remember. No. Because Brandon's

39:53

was a dog that's like, you know, Brandon. Come

39:55

out. I will also move to Brandon's. Brandon,

39:58

our road question went today because I do wanna

40:00

see Tom Holland do the umbrella

40:02

thing

40:02

again.

40:02

I just want Tom Holland. That's all. I'll

40:04

let my wife know. Carrie

40:08

wins.

40:08

Oh, I forgot. Carrie

40:09

wins the rogue question. I'm

40:13

gonna mail her her rogue your breath. Thanks

40:15

so that that don't be coming in the

40:16

mail. Don't sense up my

40:17

wife, but that is it. Empty.

40:20

Quit sending stuff to my wife. Keep

40:24

my wife's bail out your mother

40:26

in mind. But

40:31

that is it for this episode of Rogue Fury. Thanks

40:33

to our amazing guests, Jessica Clements, Winnie

40:35

Van Lining him, and Brandon Barrick. Support our

40:37

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40:46

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40:48

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40:52

guys next time. Goodbye. Bye.

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