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Ron Ananian. He could have a sixty three split
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window Vett, a sixty five gto and he
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drives a seventy three
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Volkswagen thing pink. It's
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crazy, all right, It's just it's the
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Barbie car.
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Seats, losing
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street girls
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out of side, smell the
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money on the Saturday,
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the.
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Car Doctor. Now, when they ran the new brake
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lines and they bled the wheels, do you
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know if they did an abs bleed procedure?
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And I'm gonna tell you they couldn't have because it was
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unplugged. Ah right, Okay,
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No, that was not that was not brought up.
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Welcome to the radio home of ron
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Aanian, the Car Doctor. Since
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nineteen ninety one. This is where car
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you a busy signal, pick up the phone
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The garage doors are open, but
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I am here to take your call at eight five
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five five sixty nine hundred and now
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pee.
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Running.
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You know there's a
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there's a non radio ron and a radio
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ron. And I was just sitting here thinking, oh
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good, it's the car Doctor. I wonder what he's got to say today,
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and then I realized it's me, so I better start talking.
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You know, it's just you have those moments. I swear
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you have to live my life. It just it
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just cracks me up, all the things that go
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on around here. I
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got a letter today from Jeremy. I want to start
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here, Hi, Ron, question
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for you, as a do it yourself guy,
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I normally get a major feeling of accomplishment
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after finishing a car repair. It's a combination
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of thinking how much I may have saved for whatever
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family members car I'm working on and knowing the job
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was hopefully done right as a
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professional. Do you still have to all these years get
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a feeling of accomplishment and satisfaction after completing
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repairs? Thankful all you do first, Jeremy or Maryland.
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You know, I'm
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very fortunate. I really am.
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And everybody gets stoic and a
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little emotional,
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but I've really been blessed. I found
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what I wanted to do early. I
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had no clue what was going to lead me here. I
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just knew I like fixing cars. It was my way
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of communicating with the rest of the planet. And
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I don't really feel like I've
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done physical work. I've done mental work, but I don't feel
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like I've worked.
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You know.
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Every day has been a challenge. Every day has been an up
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and down, you know. And
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I asked Jeremy for permission to answer this because you
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know, this is kind of a one on one question. But do
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I still feel, after these years a feeling of
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accomplishment and satisfaction? Yeah?
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I do.
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And by the same token, the days
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that I go home and I haven't figured out
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that car, I haven't finished
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everything I was supposed to finish that day,
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it's not a good night. It just isn't,
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you know. I think about it through supper. I think about
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it while I'm watching TV, not supposed to think
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about the shop. I think about it when I wander back
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into my home office looking at the shop on camera,
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and I dial in, and I start reading
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my notes and thinking about that problem
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car. And but it's a better day
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the next day when I go in having slept
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on it, and I fix it. You
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know, I think I wish that for
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everybody. I really do. I really wish that everybody
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you know had what I have in
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the ability that you know, there's something they enjoyed
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doing. Because if you if you enjoyed doing what you do.
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Is they say you never work a day in your life. As
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a matter of fact, we're gonna you know, you're
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supposed to slow down as you get older. Right well, I've
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got a couple of things on the table. You're going
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to see some changes to the YouTube channel. I've
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got the social media guy working
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on it right now as we speak. We're going to be putting titles
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and headers and more info in and doing
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more videos there out on youtub two about on Ron
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and any and the Car Doctor YouTube channel. We've
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got a couple of TV pilots we're pitching. Would
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you like to see the Car Doctor on TV? I mean,
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wouldn't that be fun? Maybe
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we do some shorts, so you know, write your local
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network tell them you want the Car Doctor. And
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you know, I just yeah, Jeremy, you know what,
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I do still get a feeling of satisfaction. I still
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feel like there's more to do. There's just more
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I want to do. I don't think there's
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a car that can't be fixed out there. I just think it's
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all in the approach and not
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I've got to say not every
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car I approach, do I approach correctly?
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I still make mental errors
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because of the distractions. But
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you see, that's the challenge, that's the rise. Okay,
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that's that's the how you get
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trying to solve that problem. We
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had a twenty nineteen Ford Edge this week
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that came in for an oil change and a pair
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of wiper blades, and
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the customer said to me, he said, hey, Ron,
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by the way, the trans is acting up. Every once
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in a while it bucks and
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surges. Now, actually he didn't say every once in a
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while. He said, the trans bucks and surges
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and it doesn't shift right. And
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where do I start? Do I do I do I,
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you know, punch the ticket, run the clock and start a
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three hundred and seventy five dollars diagnosis? Or do I
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just take it for a ride because I don't want
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to start charging somebody for something that because
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if I did that every time somebody said hey, my my
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my car does this or that, you
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know, we would annoy an awful lot of people
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awful quick because once the clock's running,
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and it's running, you know, it's it's
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it's hard to that that that halfway
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in momentum. So
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I took the car for a ride, I you know, five
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minutes, six minutes. Clock's running right. I
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got to get my cars done. Didn't
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experience it. Car rode great change,
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the oil changed, the wiper blades. Found out the rear brakes
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were metal on metal. I
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mentioned to the customer when I called him about the
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brakes to get a you know, approval for the brakes. I said,
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by the way I drove this, I had
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no problems with the transmission. The transmission drove
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fine. I didn't experience it. And
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then we started to talk a little bit. It's a ninety five
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thousand mile twenty nineteen Ford
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Edge. You know, it's
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new to him. He's only had it for years. It
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was new to us. First time we'd seen it. I said, did
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you you know, did you ever service
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this? Did it have a sixty thousand mile service? You
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know? Did it have a ninety thousand mile service?
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And he had purchased it used. It was a used
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rental car for one of the fleet agencies. And I
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got to tell you, I'm very leery
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about buying used rental cars
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because I know how
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I drive a rental I know how everybody drives a rental
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car. Everybody's hard on rental cars. It's
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you know, rental cars are nothing more
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than a pocket book with four wheels. You throw
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everything at it. You know, you do what
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you got to do. You don't care, you don't worry about
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it. It's and you walk away
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from it, and you're done because you're in a
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hurry. You're you know, it's
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not what I want right off the bat, or
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I want to at least have it looked at. You
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know, he hadn't serviced it, he hadn't done anything to
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it. And you know he
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was a little baffled by the no trans issue, and
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I so was I. But it
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it never happened. So
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I suggested, I said, you know what, maybe we should service
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the trans I said, I, you know, not
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unrelated to anything else, but just from
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your description and what you're describing, I
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really love to see what the fluid looks like. Of course,
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it's a Ford edge, so there's no dipstick
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on it. It's not easy to check fluid. It's not
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easy to look at condition. You know, there's a
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whole process you got to go through because
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they make it complicated, of course, And
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I said, you know, let's service the trans. It
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can't hurt anything. I
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got to tell you, it's been a long time since I saw a transmission
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fluid that black. It was like the inside
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of your eyelids, right. It
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was just smoked, beyond smoked.
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And we changed it. We
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ended up changing it, you know. Gary
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and I spoke about it, and I said, let's change the fluid. I said,
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it's a cheap place to start. I said, because if fluid
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doesn't fix it, and it is a trans issue,
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you're into a trans there's not much
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you can do to take the transmission out of that vehicle
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is major heart surgery. You've got to drop
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the cradle and support the engine, and it's
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a major undertaking. It's not You're not going to pull
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the trans out to tear down to inspect and only
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repair whatever's causing whatever could
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be wrong with this chatter, this noise, this sensation,
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this bucking that. He was hard to describe
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that. I never felt that, and
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he agreed and we serviced it, and
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then I reset trans adapts, which I knew I
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was going to have to do. And this is the part I
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missed. I didn't think about when I have to
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reset trans adapts on one hundred thousand mile
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transmission with tired fluid, what the
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reaction was going to be and oh boy,
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it reacted. It was worse now
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I felt it, But in all fairness,
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I also felt it after it came off the lift after
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running for the better part of twenty minutes,
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because we had to ad just fluid level and
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we had to make sure the trans was up to temperature because
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it's a you know, to get it up
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to operating temperature. So we're
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checking level because it's a drip out the drain plug
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type of fluid adjustment because
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it's not there's no dipstick. So
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we you know, took it for a ride and it bucked
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and it shook and it yeah,
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and there's a problem with this transmission. In
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the end, I solved
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it.
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You know.
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I went home that night, Like I said to
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you, this is what I do. You go through. I went home that night
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and I thought about it, and I sat through
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supper, and I sat through watching the evening news
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on TV, and my mind was back on that car,
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and I'm running through it in my head, and I
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realized what I had done wrong was I had missed
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a diagnosis. I didn't
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do a diagnosis. I didn't sit down and
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go through my due diligence and Jeremy.
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Every time I do this, all
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right, I get stuck in a hole and for
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everybody else out there. I
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came in the next morning and
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I went to bulletins, and Ford actually
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has a bulletin for the eight F
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thirty five transmission shut up buck jerk
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while driving up to thirty five miles an hour on
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the twenty nineteen Ford Edge, and they talk about reflashing
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software. So I
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called up my guys at Opus Opus IVS,
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and of course we had this conversation
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at nine. We talked about the potential possibility
10:15
of this, and you
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know, he pointed out that they've done a few of these,
10:19
and sometimes it fixes it, and sometimes it
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doesn't, because sometimes it's just a transmission
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problem. What Ford's doing is they're
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modifying the shift point strategy
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and the overall general transmission operation.
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They've decided that, which I don't
10:33
understand. How as an aside,
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we have all this money and research R
10:38
and D and we release a product
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and four years later we find out five years
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later, we find out that the R and D wasn't done correctly,
10:44
and we're going to change the operating software strategy
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to try and make it operate better. What's
10:50
the point in doing the research and development in the first place.
10:52
Why don't we just take our best guess, I say, we get a dartboard,
10:55
right, we put all these different transmission strategies
10:57
up on the dartboard. Let's just throw the dart Okay,
11:00
Landed next to seven. We'll run that. I
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mean, right, what's the point
11:06
I opted to go for
11:10
a different way? I said, you know, we've seen
11:12
this before. We've seen transfluid physically
11:14
wear out, which, by the way, and
11:16
Ed brought this up. He said, keep in mind, Ford
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doesn't recommend transfluid change on the
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edge until one hundred and fifty thousand
11:23
miles because it's it's
11:25
LV trans fluid, so they expect the
11:27
transfluid to last to one hundred and fifty thousand
11:29
miles. Meanwhile, as I determined
11:32
later on, the torque converter is slipping
11:34
so badly and chattering so badly, and the
11:36
fluid is so beat up that the
11:38
trans can't operate anymore. What's the point
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in having one hundred and fifty thousand mile trans interval
11:43
when the trans can't get past one hundred thousand miles
11:45
without the converter being bad? What
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is this? A government operation, like,
11:50
where's the logic here? I
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I dumped in a twenty three dollars bottle of lubeguard
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chatter improver, drove
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the truck seventy five miles, well fifty miles,
12:04
and it's getting better. I can't say
12:06
it's a permanent fix. I don't like doing it.
12:08
It's a band aid, but
12:10
it gets us past the point of Okay, now
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we know what it is, and
12:15
now the customer can make a decision. Do you want to put
12:17
the seven thousand dollars into the truck to put a transmission
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in it? Do you want to drive it as is? Or
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do you want to get rid of it? You
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know, Jeremy, I wasn't happy
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on Thursday night, but I was real happy Friday
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morning because the satisfaction
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of figuring it out and saving
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money and out thinking the engineers.
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Yeah, that's what this job is
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about. Eighty five five,
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five, six zero nine nine zero zero, one hundred
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and fifty thousand miles. And when I
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come back, I want to tell you about the pink thing in Tom's
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car, because that's he's just chomping at the bit
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I'm running inding in the car. Doctor. I'll be back right
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after this stop
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for the best in car advice.
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Give Ron a call eight five five five
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six zero nine nine zero zero.
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Now back to Ron. Hey, I'm back.
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And before we go into the thing and Tom and everything
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else, let's real quick. Let's go to the phone. Let's go to Lewis
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in Arkansas. See what's going on here? Lewis.
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You're on with the car doctor, sir, How can I help?
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Yes, I have that thirteen
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escape forwards,
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okay, and the gas and it'll get down up into
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the tent. Now they just sit right.
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Back, all right? An any
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dashboard warning lights on Lewis? No,
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okay, so no check engine light? No
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anybody try to diagnose any of this. No,
13:47
okay? So, and and it runs
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fine? Right if you does
13:52
it take a while to get gas in it?
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Can you you know if you do it slowly, will
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it take fuel?
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No, it won't do it at all. Straight bank
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if you put the mud at the gas station, But if
14:03
you try to pull it in there with the funnel that came win
14:05
it you just sit in the nozzle, sit in
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the filler.
14:09
Say that. Say that again. You can
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fill it with the pump, but you can't pour
14:13
it down with the little funnel.
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No, you can't fit it with the pump. It'll spray
14:19
back with the pump at the gas station. But
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if you put the little funnel in there, it won't
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take it. It just sit there in that funnel.
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Okay, So what
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so? Okay, So it
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sounds like, and I've seen this before,
14:32
that the filler neck itself has a problem.
14:36
Right, So you know we
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used to do this in two steps. Do you own
14:40
the car since newer? Did you buy this? Used?
14:44
Is used?
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All right? And has it done it since the day you bought
14:47
it?
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No?
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It just not this a month or so ago.
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It would take gas off when it's
14:54
about three weeks ago. But it'll go
14:57
like it was sucking it down and
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then just stopped taking it at all.
15:01
All right, So this is
15:04
probably a bad pill neck, all
15:06
right, And you're you're
15:08
your mechanic is gonna have to take the neck out and
15:11
either use a borescope, take a look down
15:13
and see there's almost
15:15
I can almost promise you there's gonna be some kind of a
15:17
restriction. There's something that came
15:20
loose, either the baffling game loose in the
15:22
neck, but something's restricted that. But
15:24
before before we do that,
15:27
right, there's going to be there's
15:29
gonna be a vent line coming
15:32
off the canister going to the neck. Disconnect
15:36
that vent line, all right,
15:39
and look look for the possibility of animal
15:41
intrusion like a spider web.
15:44
You know, is the vent line clogged? Or take
15:46
the vent disconnect disconnect the vent
15:49
and go over to the gas station and try putting
15:51
fuel in it? Does it? Can you put
15:53
fuel in it? Then if you can put
15:56
fuel in it with the vent disconnected,
15:59
then I'm going to say, either the vent
16:01
line is restricted, did a spider
16:03
crawl in build a web? Is the line
16:05
somehow itself restricted
16:08
for some reason, plastic
16:10
tube is damaged whatever? Or is
16:12
the charcoal canister you
16:14
know, did the person before you constantly
16:17
overfill the tank or not overfill
16:19
it? But you know how you would fill
16:21
a car and when the pump clicks, if it
16:24
stops at seventeen dollars and forty six
16:26
cents, best practiced is rounded
16:28
up to seventeen fifty and call it a day. But
16:31
if the person tries to put eighteen fifty
16:33
in it, that extra dollar, that extra
16:36
whatever of gallon of fuel in it. Eventually,
16:38
over time we can saturate the charcoal
16:41
canister and cause that to be restricted
16:43
because the fuel will slosh down the vent
16:46
and get into the canister itself and it could have a
16:48
canister problem. So if unclogging
16:50
the vent line solves it,
16:53
I'm sorry, disconnecting the vent line solves
16:55
it, then I want to go and take a look at
16:58
you know, just before I just do a vent or
17:00
spider wherever or what have you, and it could still
17:03
be a neck. I want to look and consider
17:05
the canister too, all right,
17:07
you know, is the canister and that would be a matter
17:09
of you know, looking at the canister
17:12
possibly taking it down, uh,
17:14
you know, weighing it and considering
17:16
is the canister saturated? This
17:19
isn't a hard problem to solve, Lewis, It really
17:21
isn't, all right?
17:22
You know?
17:23
This is this is you ever try
17:25
to pour a gas from a can without
17:27
opening up the vent on the other side, or
17:30
you ever try to put you ever try to put fuel in a
17:32
gas can but you don't open up the vent
17:34
on the other side and it builds up too much pressure.
17:38
Uh no, I just.
17:42
Fun yeah,
17:44
no, no, no, no, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about
17:46
a gas can on the ground, right.
17:49
You ever try if you ever tried to put fuel in a gas
17:51
can when it's sitting on the ground, you always have to open
17:53
up the vent on the other side to allow pressure
17:55
to equalize and come out. That's basically
17:58
the problem we're having. So now we just have to try rack
18:00
it down. Is it the neck? Is it the vent?
18:02
Is it the canister itself? All
18:05
right? And or it could be a vent
18:07
valve And there's always that possibility. But you'll know when
18:09
you disconnect the vent. Do those steps your mechanic
18:11
has any questions, give me a call back. I'm running ending
18:14
in the car doctor. We're returning right after this. Don't
18:16
go away.
18:40
Welcome back, Running the car Doctor. Okay,
18:42
I gotta put the thing and the tom story
18:44
off another segment because now let's go talk
18:46
to Alex in Pennsylvania fifteen Subaru
18:49
outback and want's talk about CBT trans fluid.
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Alex, I'm all yours, babe. What's going on?
18:54
Good?
18:55
Ron, Thank you for taking my call.
18:56
You're welcome.
18:57
Good.
18:57
What's cooking?
18:59
So? I have a twenty fifteen out back. It
19:01
has the three point six literre engine CVT
19:03
transmission. I bought
19:05
the vehicle about four years at those certified
19:07
pre owns now has one hundred and sixty
19:10
thousand miles on it. I do all highway
19:12
miles for work between here and New Jersey.
19:15
My question is about CVT maintenance.
19:18
So I've looked in the owner's manual and it states
19:20
that the fluid should be inspected
19:22
and not changed under normal
19:25
driving conditions, and then it
19:27
gives some other recommendations
19:30
for severe driving. So
19:33
in the time that I've owned the car I've
19:35
brought I've brought it to two different independent
19:38
shops. The first shop which I was using,
19:40
they are SUBREW specialists.
19:43
They had stated that they don't recommend to their
19:45
customers that they changed the fluid
19:47
at all because it's a lifetime fluid. Since
19:51
that time, I've switched to another
19:54
shop. It's another independent shop and the
19:56
owner is a senior master tech
19:58
with SUBREU, and I've
20:01
asked him to look at the
20:03
CBT fluid and for
20:05
his recommendation, and he basically
20:08
said, at this point it's pretty much up
20:10
to me what I want to do, but he leans towards
20:12
leaving it alone.
20:15
The symptom that I'm having is around
20:17
twenty to thirty miles an hour, like light
20:19
acceleration city driving, I
20:22
feel like a fluttering,
20:24
almost like in the seat of your pants kind
20:27
of feeling. And if the transmission
20:30
is cold, like from a cold
20:32
start, that fluttering is more
20:34
like a jerking, slipping
20:36
feeling. It doesn't happen all the time, but
20:39
it's more than half the time. Aside
20:42
from that, the car drives fine. And I was just
20:45
curious that at this point, is
20:47
it too late to do anything about it, or
20:49
should you recommend changing the fluid.
20:53
So let's let's
20:55
have some definitions here. If you look
20:57
under suber service dat or they for
21:00
the fluid to be inspected when it's operated under
21:02
severe driving conditions, they talk, they call
21:04
for fluid replacement. And I don't
21:06
know how they came to this number, but every twenty four
21:09
and fifty five miles, I mean,
21:13
I don't know where that number comes from, but that's
21:15
that's right out, and that's right out of all that. I remember
21:17
the spec all right, and I'm sure Mitchell's
21:19
got the same thing. So they now that's severe
21:21
driving conditions. Now severe driving
21:24
conditions trailer towing, high humidity,
21:26
mountainous areas, idle time traffic.
21:29
I don't know anybody that doesn't drive severe driving
21:32
condition. You know, it's I
21:34
would think it would be so difficult to try and drive
21:36
quote unquote normal driving conditions.
21:39
Sure, so that.
21:41
Driving that I do. I drive basically on
21:43
I seventy eight from Pennslvania to New
21:46
Yorker, New Jersey just about every day, so sure,
21:49
almost exclusively highway right.
21:50
And you're but you're climbing the mountain, right. You climb the
21:52
mountain on seventy eight, and I know exactly where you're
21:55
coming in. You're coming in seventy eight. You got
21:57
to get up, you got to go past Dorny if you're
21:59
coming out that far. You're coming up to the top of the mountain
22:01
right, and you come down the other side to get
22:03
into two eighty seven, and you know that's all mountain
22:05
and twist and turns, and you know I've been
22:08
on that. I've been on seventy eight. When the fog is
22:10
there and you come down out of the fog and all of a sudden,
22:12
it's like, you know, God gave you a son again
22:14
you can see, So you
22:16
know, to me, it's mountains driving. I
22:19
think if the trans is starting to show
22:21
signs of deterioration, and
22:24
you know you want to keep this car going. I think the questions
22:27
really have to become if the
22:29
trans is on its way out. I'm
22:32
not saying it is, but if it is, maybe
22:34
it's got a converter slip. Does it happen, you
22:36
know, at lower speeds it's that twenty to
22:38
twenty five mile per hour range, Alex, when
22:41
this happens.
22:43
Yeah, And like I said, it's not one hundred percent of the time,
22:46
but yeah, Like when I notice it the
22:48
most is if I come off of the Interstate
22:50
after having been on there for about an hour and
22:53
I do a little bit of city driving to my
22:55
destination, you know, stopping at
22:57
a traffic light light acceleration, I
22:59
feel a little little bit of a flutter.
23:02
It feels like like a little bit of
23:05
of a mild vibration in the
23:08
in the sedia pants and it just lasts for like
23:10
a second.
23:11
At most, Right, Okay, So,
23:14
if is the shop you're
23:16
going to have they experienced it, Do they feel
23:18
that that is transmission?
23:22
They haven't experienced it. He has
23:25
looked at the fluid and he has
23:27
said it still looks good even though
23:29
it is original. Okay, And but
23:32
as far as diagnosing the issue,
23:34
he hasn't all right.
23:36
If the if the fluid looks good, my
23:38
opinion, I change it. I
23:41
wouldn't wait for it to t I wouldn't wait for it
23:43
to turn color. And I'll tell you why.
23:46
All right.
23:47
You know when the fluid turns color and it's
23:49
showing signs of it's, it's it's
23:51
it's been overheated, or it's starting to break
23:53
down. Transmission
23:55
fluid in this modern age has
24:00
different characteristics and shift
24:02
qualities between manufacturers.
24:05
You know, did you ever stop to think about transmissions
24:07
of transmission?
24:08
Right?
24:08
It's a device to propel a vehicle forward, But
24:10
every manufacturer seems to call for a different
24:13
fluid. Did you ever think about that? Why that's like
24:15
that? You know, wouldn't
24:17
wouldn't wouldn't hydraulic
24:19
fluid be hydraulic fluid? Isn't that? But
24:21
it's not because there's different Uh,
24:25
rub rub your hands together, right, there's a
24:27
certain amount of friction there. If you rub
24:29
your hands together away, it's it's a different type
24:32
of friction sensation than if
24:34
your hands were dry. Well, different fluids
24:36
react differently. Manufacturers make fluids
24:38
with different anti chatter agents, with different formulations,
24:41
with different characteristics.
24:44
I can't tell you how many vehicle manufacturers
24:46
I've seen where the trans
24:49
fluid itself, the additive
24:51
package is actually worn out. I've
24:54
experienced it on some of the best brands of
24:56
transmissions and vehicles out there. Toyota
24:58
comes to mind, all right, it
25:00
happened on a family vehicle twenty sixteen Toyota
25:02
fort Runner. One of the Indian
25:05
kids had seventy five thousand
25:07
miles on it. She thought the trans was failing and it
25:09
was a matter of changing the fluid. So
25:13
you know, to me, all fluid wears
25:15
out, all right, I question
25:19
the longevity the manufacturers are calling
25:22
for. You know, they're operating under
25:24
near perfect conditions for the
25:27
Ford Edge you heard me talking about where they said one
25:29
hundred and fifty thousand miles. Well, yeah,
25:32
under normal driving conditions. Define
25:34
normal driving conditions, you know, show
25:36
me a vehicle that operates in the Tri state area
25:38
under normal driving conditions. I don't think it can be
25:40
done. All right. Now,
25:43
Let's say you changed this trans fluid and
25:46
A it doesn't solve your problem, or B it
25:48
solves your problem, but B two weeks from now
25:50
the trans fails. Wouldn't
25:53
you rather know now and be prepared
25:55
than get stuck on ice seventy eight coming up out
25:57
of the fog one day. Right.
26:01
So, so the homework you've got is, you
26:03
know, are you committed to this car? And if you're committed
26:05
to this car, then let's change the trans
26:07
fluid. If the trans fluid change works, great, you
26:09
spend three hundred dollars and the fluid's changed or whatever
26:11
the number is. If the three hundred
26:13
dollars doesn't and the trans
26:16
should fail, it's only accelerated.
26:18
What I have to tell you is probably coming somewhere
26:21
down the line anyway, because it's got one hundred and sixty
26:23
thousand miles on it. This isn't a spring
26:25
chicken, right, So before
26:28
you change this fluid and put
26:30
yourself into that spot, you know,
26:32
here's the roll of the dice. Get
26:34
a quote on a trans replacement. I'm going to tell you right
26:37
now that trans is probably between six
26:39
and seven grand. But
26:42
by the same token, can you buy
26:44
a car for seven grand? No?
26:46
No?
26:47
Right? So you
26:49
know, I remember nineteen
26:52
seventy three, I
26:54
did my first water pump and I watched Billy
26:56
right the billing It was one hundred and eighty two dollars, and
26:58
I was like Billy, that's insane. One hundred
27:00
and eighty two dollars for and forty eight cents
27:03
for a water pump. He goes, yeah, but it got two
27:05
gallons of anti freeze small
27:07
block Chevy, right. And I said
27:09
but, and he said, Ron, you can't go out and buy a car
27:11
for one hundred and forty eight one hundred and eighty two dollars.
27:14
You know, everything's relative. Back then
27:16
a new car was was was thirty
27:19
five hundred dollars. It was a lot of money, you
27:22
know. Now it's seven grand for a trans.
27:25
But what's a new Subaru forty forty
27:27
five at least?
27:29
Right?
27:30
So I like the idea
27:33
of changing it. I would. If the fluid
27:35
color is good, then theoretically changing
27:37
it with fresh can only make
27:39
things better, right,
27:42
I say,
27:44
take the gamble, but know what the risks are
27:47
before you go into it. And I would talk
27:49
to your to your shop because he's the attending
27:51
physician, so to speak, and ask him if it
27:53
needs a trans what's it going to cost, and explain
27:55
the problem you're chasing as
27:57
far as what you're what the sensation is.
28:00
All right, Okay, So that's
28:03
what I got for you, kiddy.
28:05
You let me know as far as transmission
28:08
fluids, is there a do you
28:10
recommend Subaru fluid
28:13
or is there an aftermarket brand that meets
28:15
suber respect.
28:17
Anything anything made by Idu Metsu.
28:20
All right, if you pop into your local
28:22
AutoZone, they'll have it Metsu
28:25
trans fluid meeting Subaru
28:27
spec they manufacture.
28:30
I believe right now ninety percent
28:32
of the Japanese vehicle trans fluid
28:34
out there that's calling
28:36
for it. You'll you'll actually go into certain
28:38
dealers and you'll see they've got a dou Metsu
28:41
branded transfluid on the shelf. Subaru, Toyota,
28:43
Honda, you know. And then now
28:46
and especially since the pandemic with parts
28:48
shortages, I'm seeing more direct labeling
28:50
of Idumetsu transfluent on the Japanese car manufacturers
28:53
dealer shelves. And they're just bypassing
28:56
making another bottle, you know, Toyota,
28:58
Honda, four GM, Chrysler. None of these
29:01
people make their own trans fluid. They
29:03
also they just sub out the different blenders
29:05
in different manufacturers, all right.
29:07
I du Metsu is one of the premier trans
29:09
fluid manufacturers in the world right now.
29:13
Great, all right, well, thank you for your help. Ron
29:15
I appreciate it.
29:15
You're very welcome, Alex. You let me know if you need anything else.
29:18
I'm Ronning any in the car doctor. Eight five five five
29:20
six zero nine nine zero zero. We're back right after
29:22
this. Don't go away.
29:31
I can have a first resisting
29:34
out the five and then it's
29:38
in the fingus. What's
29:41
the summer of sixteen?
29:44
Hey, welcome back Ronning the car doctor. Let's
29:46
let's go over and talk to Cliff in Virginia.
29:49
Cliff, how can I help you in your row two f one fifty
29:51
sir?
29:53
Hey, ron how are you today?
29:55
Good sir? What's going on?
29:57
I've got UH one
30:00
one fifty two thousand and two Ford Delariat
30:02
truck with the five point
30:04
four Leader Triton v.
30:06
V eight and.
30:10
I was driving down the road
30:12
in a place where I couldn't pull off and
30:16
couldn't just stop the vehicle, and it
30:18
it overheated.
30:21
Overheated, boiled, overheated, boiled,
30:23
cooling out of the overflow.
30:25
The gauge went high. How do you know what overheated?
30:29
Well, the gauge went high, and
30:32
I had to keep driving. I had to keep moving,
30:35
and it got to the point where I went into that shut
30:38
where that emergency faky
30:41
mode where it starts running
30:43
on alternate cylinders.
30:45
I guess
30:46
okay.
30:50
Anyway, I'm afraid I've killed my
30:52
truck. Now the battery is.
30:55
The battery is down. Now. I tried to charge
30:58
it the other and
31:00
started and it wouldn't start.
31:04
And I was going to ask you for advice
31:06
on my next steps.
31:08
Here does it does it? Does
31:10
it crank Overcliff.
31:13
No, well, it's not doing it's not cranking
31:15
now because the battery is.
31:17
You know, I've got to be honest with you. I'm
31:19
not aware of a
31:23
overheat shutdown strategy
31:25
on that your vehicle.
31:28
Yeah, there was something in the owner's manual.
31:30
Let me see, I'm right here that
31:34
that said that if it gets overheated, if
31:36
it overheats too much, right,
31:39
it'll it'll it'll go
31:42
into like a word, some
31:44
of the cylinders don't.
31:46
Right, because what they'll do is right, they'll start,
31:48
they'll start, They'll shut down injectors
31:51
so that they start running air through the cylinders,
31:53
and it theoretically it cools
31:55
the cylinders next to it. But that's
31:57
not a Once the temperature comes
32:00
back to normal, it will start. In
32:02
theory, it's
32:05
not that it's.
32:06
And it did one go
32:08
ahead. It did one time the
32:11
next day, but now it's now it won't.
32:15
Okay. When it did start
32:17
the next day, did it sound normal
32:19
or did it make noise?
32:23
It sounded normal?
32:24
All right?
32:25
Have you.
32:27
Have you looked at fluids?
32:29
You know?
32:29
Is it low on coolant?
32:30
Right now?
32:32
Say again?
32:34
I had to add two quarts of oil.
32:37
Okay, and I'll tell you what. Cliffs,
32:39
stay right where you are at don't Cliff, stay right where
32:41
you are. Don't go away. Take this Pauson. We'll come
32:43
back. I'm running ending in the car. Doctor. We'll be back right
32:46
after this.
32:46
Don't go away.
32:59
Welcome back, Ron, Andy and Cliff. You're still
33:01
there, sir, Yes,
33:03
sir, Let me let me check because we got about two minutes
33:05
and then I gotta go. I don't think this
33:07
is your problem, but I want to make sure I mention
33:10
it. I want to make sure this vehicle is not
33:12
in anti theft mode when you
33:14
turn the key on, and hopefully you've got enough
33:16
battery power that will power up the dashboard.
33:18
The odometer doesn't show dotted
33:21
lines.
33:21
Correct,
33:30
well, the odometer is showing
33:32
nothing all right?
33:35
Now? Is so? So first things
33:37
first, we we can't diagnose
33:39
something with a bad battery or a low battery,
33:42
right, yes, if the battery
33:44
is low on charge or low on state.
33:47
Did this just happen just now, Cliff.
33:50
No, this this happened three weeks ago.
33:52
Okay, So let's let's let's
33:54
either let's either charge the battery
33:57
or get a battery in it, all
33:59
right, and get you know, we got
34:01
to stabilize heart rate and blood pressure before we
34:04
do any kind of analysis. Then the
34:06
next question is it was down two quarts of oil?
34:09
The good news is that means there was at least three or
34:11
four in it, right, as
34:13
long as it wasn't empty? Okay?
34:16
Is it low on coolant?
34:19
It was low on coolant? And I added a
34:23
gallon of the girl last.
34:26
Okay, uh, you know if you mix
34:28
it fifty to fifty.
34:28
Sure, yeah, that's but
34:31
it was low on coolant. So now we've got to
34:33
where'd the coolant go? Where'd the oil go? But
34:36
if we put a battery in this, it
34:38
should crank right
34:40
in theory, all right,
34:43
yep. And then and then from there, let's
34:45
do a basic diagnosis spark
34:48
fuel. Does the engine sound
34:50
normal when it's cranking? Does it have that
34:52
same repetition. Did
34:54
it suffer mechanical failure? Are
34:57
there any fault codes in it? We've
34:59
got to do some very basic, simple diagnosis
35:02
before we start. You know, I wouldn't get too nervous.
35:04
I'd be concerned. You know, it didn't suffer
35:06
engine failure. But we've got to do some basic
35:09
stuff before we condemned the whole thing. You
35:11
let me know. I'm running Eney in the car. Doctor. Good
35:13
mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless.
35:15
See you
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