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Welcome back.

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Listeners want a naming of the car doctor. Our next guest

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is no stranger to the car Doctor. We're always

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excited to have him back, as well as all

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the folks from Launch to launch scan tools. Haresh

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Gobin. He's been here before, he'll be here again and

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it's always a pleasure. Sir, Welcome back, Koresh. How

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are you today, Ron?

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I'm doing well. Thank you for having me once again. How

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are you doing?

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We're great. You know what. We have great days,

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great weeks, and we get the fixed cars every day, so

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things are doing well.

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Right, Yeah, I hear you.

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I want to talk at the end of this conversation.

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I want to get into electric vehicles. And everybody

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out there just went electric vehicles and scan tools.

0:44

Yeah, but I want to talk a little bit about scan tools in the

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beginning, you know, I want to do it. Let's do a quick review

0:49

scan tools. Let's let's talk

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basics, right, you know, what

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are they? What? What's the purpose of a scan

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tool as we know it up to this point

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in time.

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Absolutely. Well, let's let's stick a little history

1:03

lessons, and you remember

1:06

in the nineteen seventies and eighties, I believe

1:08

there is the advent of the can can

1:10

network on vehicles, right, and

1:13

that those were the early networks that housed

1:16

engine computer or transition computer and maybe

1:19

ABS module was not as

1:21

complicated as they are today. So

1:24

at that time, with the advent of the

1:26

after the carburetor days and when cars

1:29

went to we're coming towards fuel injection, the

1:31

OBD the OBED port came

1:34

out and manufacturers all started to implement

1:36

an OBD port. So in the beginning,

1:38

there were there was no standardization. There was

1:40

many different like connectors

1:43

and many different ports. Everyone was kind of doing their

1:45

own thing in terms of the manufacturers. As

1:48

week as the time went on, it

1:50

was standardized to a sixteen pin OBED port.

1:53

So scan tools, a scan tool can

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be a simple device that plugs in a

1:58

handheld device that plugs into that poor and

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basically identifies some information from

2:03

the vehicles can network such as trouble

2:05

codes or any

2:07

kind of data. And

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that would be a simple device, a simple scan tool

2:12

device. Now and today into most

2:14

shops across America have something called an

2:17

bidirectional scan tool, and this

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would they're mostly aftermarket

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brands such as ourselves and

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many other different brands out there, but

2:27

a bi directional scan tool is a little

2:29

more capable than that handheld

2:31

DIY tool. So the bi directional

2:33

scan tool is going to be able to

2:35

send information also receive information

2:38

back. So there are some functions

2:40

that are called special functions that they would be able

2:43

to maybe change the parameters

2:45

of the lights, how long the lights stay on after

2:47

you close the door. That would be considered a bi

2:49

directional function. So

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with that said, the more

2:54

advanced scan tools, such as the

2:56

birectional tools that we're referring to, are

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in most shops, most master technicians

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and most technicians today, they cannot survive

3:05

in a shop environment working on various

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makes and models of vehicles

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without a bi directional scandal. That bi

3:12

directional scan tool is fully capable of identifying

3:15

and the faults with

3:17

very relevant information such as

3:19

live data, graphing, topology

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functions. Some of the scantools

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even have database informatics resources

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that's linked up in cross reference

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with the OEM databases

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in terms of specifications of what that vehicle needs

3:35

to be at, where it needs to be at, and how it needs to be running.

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So suffice it to say, a

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scan tool is that interface right, it's

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it's I want to talk to this car, and

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this is the device it's going to do it. It's going to go

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in, it's going to query all

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the computers, all the modules that are on the

3:52

data bus, and it's going to come

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back to me with information, a good clean

3:56

bill of health or you know, we're going to look

3:58

at it in topology, which launch

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does, right. You guys display If there's

4:02

thirty eight computers in the vehicle, you guys will display

4:05

them all on a screen and they'll

4:07

change color. You know, the healthy ones are

4:09

green, the ones that have codes might be read

4:11

or yellow, and so on and so forth. It's

4:14

an interface.

4:15

Absolutely, because it's very imperative

4:18

and it's very critical. That's a technician that's

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working on your vehicle knows

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in a jiffy what your vehicle

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is equipped with, how many different modules, what type

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of technology, So that way they're able

4:30

to plan their path of diagnostics

4:32

to the particular complaint that the car came in

4:34

for and identify that their

4:37

issue accurately and

4:39

concisely, and you know, get on the

4:41

road to repairing it.

4:42

You use the word before graphing.

4:46

What do you mean by I mean? I know what you

4:48

mean, but I want you to explain to the listeners what

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we know graphing as a term. What does graphing

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mean? What's the value of graphing versus

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looking at a digital number. Let's

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say I'm working on a vehicle on I'm looking at

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I'm looking at a throttle position

5:03

sensor that works on a zero to five volt

5:06

scale, and as I accelerate, I'll

5:08

see that I'll see that digital number

5:10

change from zero point two point

5:12

three point four and count all the way up to five vaults

5:14

if I'm going wide open acceleration. What's

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the difference between looking at as a digital number

5:19

versus graphing. Is there an advantage

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to graphing of value?

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Absolutely? Run Only the car doctor

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can ask such a relevant question. You're

5:29

putting me on the chopping block here, but I'll

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try to answer it to the best say can. Okay,

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So let's take

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another one more history of that's in bad

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ten to fifteen years ago. If

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the car had an issue that the

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technicians that were working on the car mostly

5:48

had the diagnostic

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trouble code, the code the DTC

5:53

fault to go off, and what was happening

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is in the past there was a

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lot of parts swapping going on. Let us

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talk about that TPS illustration

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you escaped. So let's say that there was a

6:04

TPS code. The pathway

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to kind of addressing that in the past would

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have been, Hey, let's call up our local parts

6:11

guy and let's get another TPS ensor and throw them

6:13

in here and you know, send the customer on the way.

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So what started to happen is and

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you brought up you I'll bring up I'll

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point out you brought up a very good key where they're voltage.

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That TPS sensor could

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have an intermittent fault that it couldnt

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have that it's not necessarily the

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feel the sensor could have been an

6:33

electrical issue, right. So

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that's the value of graphics, live

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data and graphs. They offer more real

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time insights into what's happening

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with the vehicle that aids in the diagnostics.

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If a voltage signals dropping out, the

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scan tool is going to catch it and display

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it so that our I can see. You know, one

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of the things people don't realize is the human eye

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can only interpret so many

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pieces of data a per second, whereas

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a scan tool is much faster. And

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I've proven this, and I've seen this proven

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time and time again. You'll you'll take you'll

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take cases with a voltage

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measurement with a digital voltometer, the best

7:12

in the world, and it won't catch the glitch.

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But if you put a scan tool on

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that and watch it, you'll see

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the glitch. By looking at the graph, you'll

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see the signal drop out because the scan

7:24

tool is faster than your eye and

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absolutely and that catches it.

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So you know, if we're going to graph, I

7:31

get it, and we want to graph. We want to look

7:33

at values that way. So is

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the physical size of a scan tool

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a good init indicator of its ability to graph

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and do all the other functions? You know, do we want

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to buy a small scan tool a big scan tool? How

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do we determine it? What are we looking for?

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Yeah? Yeah, it does matter because

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I'll refer back to our launch x

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four thirty one professional scan

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tool line, the

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flagship tool at the top of that mountain

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on our line, our flagship

8:03

scan tools the Throttle three, and that has a thirteen

8:05

point three inch screen. So

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that would be like, you know, a

8:10

paradise in terms of like viewing

8:13

the information for the technician on the screen, so

8:15

they'll be able to look at that those the graph

8:18

a lot more accurately and just

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just be a little more comfortable in the analysis.

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At the same time, you wouldn't want to graph.

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There are little handheld tools

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with smaller discin smaller display

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screens out there that that maybe they

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propagate that they're that scan

8:34

tour or that tool has ability to graph,

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But I would advise against

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that because you know you won't be

8:41

able to find the right analysis on a smaller,

8:43

smaller screen. It doesn't have

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to be a thirteen point three inch screen. We have

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other scan tools in our lines, in

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our diagnostic line that is about

8:52

six or seven inches, and that also would suffice.

8:54

But suffice it to say that

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the scan tool we're looking for, it's

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not so much to physical size, right, We're

9:02

looking for memory and processor

9:05

speed and capability as well.

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Right, Yes, absolutely,

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refering back to our launch Throttle three, our flagship

9:12

tool for example, that has a memory

9:15

that's of a goliath, that's two hundred and fifty

9:17

six gigabytes of storage and eight gigabytes

9:19

of memory. That's more than enough

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to be efficient, you know, in connecting

9:24

to the equal and accurately pulling out

9:26

the data for a data analysis

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and live graph graphing.

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Well because graphing with a tool with less memory

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or slower memory or slower processor may

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not be as effective as graphing with a tool that's

9:37

got top of the line memory and top of the

9:39

line processor. Yep, I get it, Hey,

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hare Esh, Yeah, you know, I want to pull over

9:43

and take a pause. When we come back, I want to talk

9:45

about electric vehicles in the marketplace

9:48

and how the need for scan tool was

9:51

created as a result, and I want

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to talk a little bit about launching their first to market

9:56

EV scan tool capability. So sit tight.

9:58

I'm running ending in the card doctor or we're here

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with Harsh Cobn of Launch Lunch

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Diagnostics. We'll both be back right after this. Don't

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go away

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run the back rodin Indian cardoctor. I'm here with Haresh

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Gobin, who's giving us a time today.

10:18

We appreciated Harash Launch scan

10:20

tools, talking about you know, scan tools

10:22

and doing a little bit of a deeper dive than we normally

10:25

do. When we pulled away for the pause, you

10:27

know, I mentioned that EV's

10:30

in the marketplace electric vehicles. There

10:32

is now a demand and a necessity for an

10:35

electric vehicle scan tool, and

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Launch is first to market

10:40

with this capability, and

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I wanted to talk a little bit about it. I don't want to go into you

10:45

know, I know, Harash, that you've got you

10:47

you've developed some

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tools, bench testing tools where the batteries

10:52

out of the vehicle and we're going to test those

10:54

components on the bench. I

10:56

want to talk about there's an EV add

10:58

on kit that you have that you've

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developed, and I want to talk a little bit about what it took to develop

11:03

that and that worked specifically with the

11:05

launch scan tools for on the

11:07

vehicle diagnostics. Am I saying

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that right?

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Right?

11:10

Is that a fair explanation?

11:12

Absolutely? Absolutely, it's

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uh, we're referring it the product,

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referring to the product as an EV

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add on kit for the diagnostics

11:23

cancel, the launch diagnostics cantol.

11:25

Right, and and that kit

11:28

as as an interface allows

11:30

the technician to do what

11:33

what sort of testing or what things can he look at

11:35

with that add on kit? What's there to look at in an EV.

11:37

You would think it's just a giant battery in

11:39

a computer, right.

11:41

Correct, But there's a lot of important

11:44

information on the EV that

11:47

the ad on kit's going to be able to give the technician.

11:49

So they're going to be able to identify battery

11:52

pack information such as how

11:54

many battery packs are modules are in that vehicle,

11:57

the state of charge of the battery packs, the

11:59

state of health of the battery packs, the temperature

12:01

which is very important single cell voltage

12:04

readings and on the temperature each

12:06

cells, so very very critical

12:08

information to see if you have a faulty

12:10

battery which can be like a hazard. Right,

12:13

this is EV technology, is a new technology,

12:16

so yeah, very relevant information

12:18

for the technician and shop.

12:20

I mean they had to the powers that be at Launch,

12:22

yourself and Harlan and you know, you guys all sat

12:24

down and talked about this. You know, it

12:27

had to be a major cash

12:29

commitment, right, I mean to develop this isn't

12:31

something you just come up with overnight to be able

12:33

to work on evs. How long has this

12:35

program been in effect? And you know where do

12:37

you see it going? Is it growing? Is it going

12:40

to expand you think as the demand for EV's

12:42

goes up.

12:44

Absolutely, you know, winner philosophies

12:46

here at Launches were very ambitious

12:48

and forward progressing in terms of we

12:51

are ultimately committed

12:53

to the card through this. The automotive aftermarket,

12:55

the independent shops across America, So

12:58

with that said, our R and D campaigns are

13:00

they usual, They start pretty

13:03

pretty well

13:05

and then I in advance. So yeah, we've been divulging

13:09

into this area because we see

13:11

that uh evs are

13:13

being driven across

13:15

America. There's a lot of different OEM manufacturers

13:18

that are offering new models in their in their

13:20

front in their equal lines now, so

13:23

we felt it was really important.

13:24

This this EV diagnostic kit in our

13:26

last minute and a half harrash. This

13:30

is a standalone kit? Or does this work with

13:32

an existing launch scan tool?

13:35

So it's a standalone kit that's the technician

13:37

or the shop purchases and invest

13:39

in, and it can be it

13:41

can be paired with their launch X four

13:43

thirty win scan tool. Anyone of to launch X

13:46

for thirty one scancel, gotcha.

13:47

So it's it's not necessarily a

13:49

complete scan tool. It's it's it's it's it's

13:51

a it's cables and adapters to YEA

13:54

to interface with evs.

13:56

Yeah, it's a kit with non

13:58

standard battery pack connector jumper cables.

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And I'm sixteen ten OBIDI diagnostics.

14:03

And then I guess, I guess is the EV

14:05

changes is the batteries change as the electrical

14:08

demands change. We can change the cables,

14:10

we can change the kit, we can update software in the scan

14:12

tool, and we're good to go.

14:14

Correct. Yeah, and we're very We're

14:17

on the we're always

14:19

like linking at the market in terms of what what the OEMs

14:21

are doing, and you know, if they're changing ports,

14:23

and you know, we always repivot

14:25

and try to offer that.

14:26

Yeah. Well yeah,

14:29

Launch has a great history of that, brother, So yeah,

14:31

I get it one hundred percent. Hey, listen,

14:33

our time, Our time is dwindling away. Where can

14:35

the listeners go get more information?

14:38

Absolutely, listeners can get more information

14:40

on our website www

14:43

dot launch tech usa dot com and

14:45

you can navigate to the product section. You'll find

14:47

all the information for the scan tools and

14:49

the ev products and any other products

14:52

that are interest to

14:54

the technicians and car enthusiasts.

14:56

Perfect as always, harrash A real pleasure. I'm

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on a nady in the car. Doctor.

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