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This is

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a Ristatif

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production. Hello

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and welcome to the only show micro dosing

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the old format with

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all costs. We

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have hi, Andrew Rosas. Welcome

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to the RT podcast and with us

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as always, as always, is

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a former host of the show. Gus. Until

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the sun withers and dies and all the heat energy

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is gone from the universe. Death of

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the universe and Barbara Duggan. Yeah. Remember

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when we had Gus's last RT podcast? It was just

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Gus's too. This

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is, this, this used to be, you're, you're probably in the

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middle of it, Andrew. This used to be my least favorite

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time of year because since there are so many

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breaks and holidays, you have to pre tape

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a million different RT podcasts. It's tough for us because we

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did a live show every Monday. And

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so like trying to do it live, but also pre

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record things. And yeah, there was like, we would do a

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live one. And then two others the same week for two weeks

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in a row. And it's like, Oh, I'm not going to do it.

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I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm

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not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not

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going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going

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to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to

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do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do

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it. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. It's

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like, I hope you like stories about just

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absolutely running over the same details of this

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week over and over at nausea. Yeah. I

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drove to work this morning. Oh my

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God. Yes.

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I don't know which one it will be. It'll be the one

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behind my eyes And

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then also this

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is coming out in January, but then in

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February Something else is

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happening which I will throw to you to

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or is it January happening right now I'm

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having now only happening now. Okay, if you're

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Ah, yes Okay, stinky where we talked about this

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get you have people Support the content

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yeah, and I am always argued this because like

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what is what is the first membership cost these days?

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Was it like six bucks? Yeah, I'm 99 599 Like

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the most you're getting for your entertainment dollar

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because that gets you access to all

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of Rooster Teeth stuff Where's like a patreon

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membership for? One podcast at independent podcast

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is the same amount of money or a

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twitch subscription or a twitch subscription to one

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person would just and that's just getting No, that's

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just getting know you so like again Your

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does with a first membership. The the hot

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ratio Just

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absolutely, uh incomparable the fed is having

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a meeting later this afternoon It's

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totally about just totally imbalancing the

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economy There's

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a a table with a Light

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overhead and people like hunkering over it with

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their hands planted. Just like hmm. What are we

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gonna do about this roost? Every

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time I do any show with andra I could always tell that he

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watches it speaks

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in such like cartoony Visual

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representations of the scenario. It's

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wonderful. It's true. It's inescapable

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Well, that's that's just good storytelling, right? Like

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really, you know painting that picture for someone

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putting that putting that image in their head

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Exactly. He does it so well. Oh, thank you.

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Welcome to the uh, andrew flattery hour once they

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put me in the house Isn't

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that sweater nice? In

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that hat nice and then sweater nice. It's sweater

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season. Yeah, i'm uh, i'm in uh,

5:17

chic long shorman Is what i'm

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going for today? I

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am a little concerned. We are pre-recording this. That's true

5:24

in case that wasn't obvious But I

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hear that austin is supposed to have like the worst

5:29

winter one of the worst winters In

5:31

recent history. I survived february 2021. Yeah, bring

5:34

it bring it on cracks knuckled. Ow By

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the time this comes out it could be it could

5:40

be getting worse Yeah, that's true But people always say

5:42

people always say one way or another like oh el

5:44

nino means it's gonna be a terrible winter No, el

5:46

nino means it's gonna be a really mild winter Some

5:48

of the thing because the bees left early it indicates

5:50

that like it's gonna get the bees. No real cold

5:52

Oh my god, it's like the old saying go tell

5:55

it to the bees go tell it to the bees.

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Um, no and so you could be listed

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They're watching this with the last remaining 4% of

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your battery and some powerless snowmageddon

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that we have yet again It could be

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so we thank you for your dedication to

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listening and watching the show in that

6:11

case Yeah, I I also heard that yeah, it's gonna

6:14

be like a cold and wet like we're gonna get

6:16

it's gonna like shift to Yeah,

6:19

like being being pretty sludgy pretty

6:21

gross. Well, it hasn't so far so maybe that

6:23

has a little concerned It's

6:25

like it's good trying to suck you it's

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gonna go boom It's like the winter equivalent

6:30

of false fall, you know how when like

6:32

the summer right now, right? It's

6:34

like we're in we're in false winter That's

6:36

good. Like it's gonna wait till you're nice

6:38

and you're like, oh, this isn't so bad

6:40

then wham cold front Yeah, exactly. Then it's

6:43

like I know ladies and gentlemen, I know

6:45

it's been 80 degrees last week But

6:47

tomorrow it's gonna be seven and do you

6:49

remember you remember that you remember that when?

6:52

No shit It was I had a photo

6:54

of it It was one degree

6:57

one degree in like amarillo like at the

6:59

top of the panhandle and at the and

7:01

in the valley It was like 98. Yeah,

7:04

like the the Texas looked like

7:06

an RPG world map like it

7:08

was Snow all the

7:10

way and it was like literally snowing in the panhandle all

7:12

the way down to the valley Where

7:15

it was like almost a hundred degrees. It was insane. I

7:17

mean It shouldn't make

7:19

sense and I can't think about it too long or like

7:21

my brain will like start short circuiting It's like states too

7:23

big. It's too damn big. Yeah, but most of your time

7:25

getting out of it If you go anywhere, it's like oh

7:27

no, but most of the trip is getting out of this.

7:29

I I saw so, you know during the pandemic

7:32

When you know lockdown was really severe before,

7:34

you know vaccines and you couldn't do anything

7:36

I thought about like just getting

7:38

an RV and getting like satellite internet

7:40

and going and working somewhere, right? I'm

7:42

sure it was a fantasy for a lot of people But

7:45

the other day I was driving down airport not too far

7:47

from here and I saw that there's like

7:49

a place that opened up That's an RV rental place.

7:51

Oh Like that's all they

7:53

do if you want to like you you rent the RV you pay

7:56

like however much dollars a certain

7:58

amount of day They have three different styles

8:00

that has an outdoor shower, one that has an

8:02

indoor shower, and one that can accommodate four people. And it's

8:04

like a camper, like it has a bed. It's got beds

8:06

in it, it's got bathrooms, got a kitchen. I was like,

8:08

oh, that's the kind of thing I wished I could find.

8:11

I was looking to buy one. This one you could just

8:13

rent. How much is it to rent? I think it very

8:15

different than which one you get, but I think, I

8:17

looked at it last week, so I'm gonna have the numbers

8:20

wrong. I wanna say it was somewhere between 170 to $200

8:22

a day. A

8:24

day, wow, okay. Considering

8:26

how much a rental car is, that's

8:28

not bad. It's like a

8:30

rental car. I mean, I always get the

8:33

cheapest option. I'm not

8:35

splurging for a rental car usually. It's

8:38

usually, it's like 70, 80 bucks a day

8:40

or whatnot. So

8:43

like, yeah, triple that and you get a bed. I

8:47

was thinking like, oh man, this would be a great way

8:49

to go out to Big Band or go to the McDonald

8:51

Observatory. Because McDonald Observatory, I would love to visit more frequently.

8:53

I've never actually been. I would love to visit it, but

8:55

it's so far, and then you're just stuck

8:57

out there. It's like a seven hour drive, seven or eight

8:59

hour drive from here. Yeah. It's like, oh, you'd

9:01

go out there at night, enjoy the observatory,

9:04

see the stars, and then be like, all right, I'm gonna go to my car

9:06

and sleep, and then have like a bed. Pick up

9:09

some McDonald's on the way. Yeah, yeah.

9:11

Just follow those golden arches to the sky. The

9:15

McDonald Observatory, worth the trip. It

9:18

is really awesome. I have been, go to the star part,

9:20

I go to one of their star parties, which

9:23

sounds like some sort of weird

9:25

sex thing. It does. Like

9:29

some type of rave. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I

9:31

put your keys in the bowl, fellas. It's

9:33

a star party. But

9:35

it's not, it's much hotter. No,

9:38

there's, you go out there, and

9:40

there is, it's in like the Davis

9:42

Mountains, which is like near kind of Big

9:44

Bend West, it's West Texas, part of

9:46

West Texas. And there's a big

9:48

observatory out there, and there's like laws and

9:51

regulations that keep light pollution from like, the

9:54

minimal residential stuff that's out there, to

9:56

an absolute minimum. You have to turn your lights off after

9:59

like 8 p.m. And it's pretty isolated to

10:01

begin with. It's pretty isolated to begin with. That's

10:03

so people could see the stars and everything. So

10:05

they have a telescope, they have like the observatory up

10:07

there, so there's a lot of it. They

10:10

have a telescope array. Sure. And

10:13

so it's to keep it, you know, no light pollution out

10:15

of the thing. And I went

10:17

out there one time and did one of the star

10:19

parties, and because there is

10:22

so little artificial light pollution out there, the

10:26

natural illumination from the stars and

10:28

the moon is so powerful. Once

10:30

your eyes adjust, like you're casting

10:32

moon shadows on the ground. You

10:34

can fully see and walk around

10:37

out there with how like little ambient light pollution

10:39

is. Your eyes like adjust and all of a

10:42

sudden you're like, oh, I can see

10:44

everyone perfectly clearly. It feels like it feels like being

10:46

a cat. You know what I mean? Like you imagine

10:48

how cats see in the dark, you're like, oh my,

10:50

this is like some sort of super power. How is it

10:52

working? But yeah, go out

10:54

there and then you like do like you

10:56

walk around the little telescopes and you can

10:59

see nebulas. I want to see that. And

11:01

see Saturn like right behind Gus. You

11:03

can see that in real life through a telescope.

11:07

I see it. It's

11:10

pretty, it was pretty incredible

11:12

and like, yeah, I don't know. There's

11:14

something both like

11:17

very magical about it and

11:19

also very, very humbling. You

11:22

know what I mean? When you're like, you

11:25

just cast your gaze upon the like

11:27

further reaches of our solar system in

11:29

real time. You're like, it's a clearly.

11:31

Yeah. You're just like, oh

11:34

man, like I've only ever seen it in photos.

11:36

True. Yeah. Yeah.

11:40

So I highly recommend doing that. That was the first thing

11:42

I thought of when I saw that RV rental place or

11:44

the campervan or place. Oh, I'm totally doing this. So yeah,

11:46

I'm going to figure that out. I'm

11:48

just scared because like you said, we're getting into like the

11:50

cold time of year. Yeah. Oh yeah. You

11:52

might want to wait for like a wait till maybe

11:54

like spring break or yeah. Yeah.

11:58

Get to get an early April trip out there. But you mentioned. You

12:00

know the moon illuminating things and it

12:02

made me think you know here in Austin We have those moon

12:05

towers which were you know built in the I think I would

12:07

say they were put up in the late 1800s Yeah,

12:09

there's only a couple left. I think ten or

12:11

something like that because of the servant girl strangler

12:14

Something to do with like a serial killer. Yeah, yeah

12:16

servant girl Annihilator. I think of that name Yeah,

12:18

but Tom Scott did a video about them. He

12:21

was in town I guess fairly recently and he

12:23

did a video about the history of them and

12:25

everything and he Kind of

12:27

contextualized them in a way. I never thought about He

12:30

said you know they when they were first made

12:32

you know they first erected that they weren't Terribly

12:35

bright right like they don't have modern lighting for

12:37

it sure But it was you know roughly the

12:39

equivalent of walking around outside with a full moon

12:41

Which you think like now he's like that's like

12:43

nothing but well, it's cuz we have so much

12:45

other artificial light. Yeah The

12:47

late 1800s that would have been like oh my

12:49

god. It's like a full moon every night. It's

12:51

incredible I can't believe it. We live in the

12:54

future It would have been so cool. It's like

12:56

turn it off. Yeah now. It's like moonlight towers

12:58

That's stupid who needs that that's something you have

13:00

to remember that yeah, that's like you have to

13:02

remember that you weren't also Facing

13:04

a car with like xenon halogen all

13:06

like that. I was like bright white

13:09

like Blinding bulbs you like it

13:11

with people in Austin who always have their

13:13

friggin. It's kind of really bad Yeah, it's

13:15

not really always have their brides on here.

13:17

I don't know or no like or no I

13:19

thought they were gonna say Or

13:21

no lights at all people not know how

13:24

to turn on their headlights also if it's raining Put

13:26

on your headlights if people could see you you don't have

13:29

to put your blinkers on That's the other

13:31

thing that drives me crazy when it rains people turn their their

13:33

hazards on like yeah, I know it's raining Yeah, I know it's

13:35

raining. Yeah, I know what your headlight now I

13:38

don't know if you're turning left or right or you're having

13:40

an emergency or what happened here I should

13:42

go around you right what's going on so I I

13:45

feel like in the past 20

13:47

I've been in Austin for 20 years

13:49

which is a very sobering fact But

13:52

I think I've seen more

13:54

people driving With their

13:56

headlights off in the past year then

13:58

the path in the All

14:00

19 other years combined. I

14:03

have seen so many people Lightless

14:06

driving around and like you're

14:09

and i've done this I

14:11

just yeah, i'm just listening at home,

14:13

uh looking exasperated and gesturing wildly

14:15

to no one Um, I

14:18

always try to get behind them and flash my

14:20

lights like I make it my mission When

14:22

i'm like, I see someone driving with that because it's dangerous I

14:25

don't want them to be in danger and I don't want other cars to

14:27

be in danger Does it ever work because it never works for me.

14:29

It has I think maybe 30 percent

14:31

of the time. Okay But

14:33

like sometimes people are just like whoa I'm

14:36

like, what do you think i'm doing? Look at your

14:38

life Yeah Now like if someone flashes their

14:40

lights at me my first instinct is are my lights

14:42

on yeah Or is there like something?

14:44

Hang is my trunk open spoken like a headlight

14:46

user? Uh, is there a man with a hook in

14:49

the back seat? I don't know, right? so

14:52

the the the the inverse of that is Um,

14:55

I have accidentally Turned

14:58

my lights off and started driving because normally my

15:00

car is it's set to the auto Yeah, it's

15:02

just like if I took the cars on in

15:04

a dark the headlights come on. Yeah, but I

15:07

occasionally I have like parked somewhere

15:10

And didn't want to shine my brights into like the front

15:12

of a building where people are eating or something So I

15:14

turn it off i'm picking up food or something Pull

15:17

away lights still off. I forget to turn them

15:19

back on and then we'll get someone flashing me

15:21

and I get it because i'm like Oh

15:24

my god, i'm mortified like it. Oh my god. I'm one

15:26

of those people i've become i've become everything I've always hated.

15:28

I've become the lightless. I've become the lightless. Yeah, try to

15:30

feel that to feel that shame. Yes um,

15:33

it's But the the

15:35

the instances of this have increased Uh

15:37

a hundred fold I would say what I

15:40

don't get and I don't know i'm sure

15:42

every car is different Obviously, but with

15:44

my car if my if it's dark outside

15:46

and my headlights aren't on All

15:49

the buttons in my car are also off. So

15:51

I can't even see the buttons And so I

15:53

know okay, obviously my headlights aren't on so when

15:55

I turn those lights on all the like buttons

15:57

light up too I wonder if with certain cars like if

15:59

the date time running lights are on because

16:02

I've seen that too like if it illuminates their

16:04

dashboard because I've seen definitely cars that don't have

16:06

any lights on in the back and then dim

16:09

lights on in the front like oh that's just

16:11

obviously I'm running minor dim but

16:13

like I could tell if they're not like my headlights I

16:15

have to switch them on manually to actually like maybe

16:17

they're just not even looking inside staring

16:20

off at Saturn distracted by the wonders of

16:22

the universe distracted by the majesty

16:24

of the cosmos go ahead and pick up their RV I

16:28

also had to get back to that I also I

16:30

think like yeah like many people did had that fantasy

16:33

of like well time to

16:35

pull up stakes see the open

16:37

road see this country of ours masks

16:40

in public places and you did that you

16:43

went off the grid for a little bit right you

16:45

went to with the Colorado or you I go

16:49

to Colorado with a lifetime ago somewhere and

16:52

like you went to paint and kind of just

16:54

like be out on your own in some type

16:56

of wilderness situation the

16:58

wilderness I went I went to I

17:00

went to Oregon I rode to Oregon

17:02

during the pandemic and that was interesting

17:06

and did like the safe the safest

17:08

pandemic road trip possible that I that I that

17:10

I could how long does it take to drive

17:13

to Oregon from here like five days four days

17:15

not that long three days oh is it three

17:17

I thought you get anywhere in the states and

17:19

like three three yeah and three and and that's

17:21

it but that's if you're putting in the work

17:23

son that means if you're like get

17:25

up at nine have a sip of coffee and hit

17:28

the road and drive until like 10 like you do

17:30

like a 12 months a 12 hour day of driving

17:32

you can get pretty much anywhere in three days yeah

17:34

it doesn't take that long but I

17:36

will say so it was

17:38

like here Albuquerque Albuquerque to

17:40

Twin Falls Twin Falls to

17:43

Salt Lake and

17:46

then and he drove back to and

17:48

then then to Oregon and then yeah driving back the

17:51

stretch from Salt Lake

17:54

through Idaho Western

17:56

Oregon or Eastern

17:58

Oregon there's like that stretch that's

18:01

above like Wyoming like in that area

18:03

it I

18:05

mean it is tattooing man it

18:07

is so desolate it's not even

18:09

like beautiful like desert

18:12

like beautiful West Texas desert

18:14

desolate or like Arizona like

18:16

you know red

18:18

cliffs and bluffs and everything like that it

18:20

truly looks like a planet

18:23

that God forgot

18:25

it's just like man like they wouldn't even

18:27

film movies out here this is like this

18:29

is too much I just and it's for

18:31

like hours you're just like God

18:34

I if the when the pilgrims

18:37

crossed to this country when fucking the Western expansion they

18:39

must have gone through this and I'm like I

18:41

think we died in Colorado I think this is hell

18:44

I think I think we're I think we're doomed to

18:46

this fate forever

18:48

it's like the one part of the

18:50

trip where no one was like hey maybe we should just

18:52

stop here like no no weird I

18:54

broke my leg we are still go we

18:57

have to keep going and then

18:59

their reward was the most beautiful

19:01

country on earth because then you

19:04

cross that like you cross basically

19:06

like the what's that mountain range

19:08

the San Andreas basically you clamp

19:10

across the San Andreas Fault and

19:13

then you get the beautiful volcanic

19:15

volcanic nitrated soil splendor of the

19:17

West Coast where everything is gorgeous

19:20

and the redwoods grow and everything

19:22

is like beautiful the weather's perfect

19:24

the weather's perfect all the time and the first

19:26

time and when I went to Oregon that

19:28

one time I went to Hood River which I

19:31

think I talked about on the podcast before but

19:33

it's like there's a there's a thing in

19:35

Hood River Oregon called the Fruit Loop and

19:37

it's just a collection of farms and orchards

19:39

and stuff and you just take you can

19:41

like do like a little tour of all

19:43

these like farms and go and pick fresh

19:45

berries and pick apples and like all this

19:47

stuff and it is

19:50

just like our ancestors just like taking

19:54

it's so unbelievably

19:56

beautiful and like the

19:59

fruit Incredibly

20:01

delicious and you can just like

20:03

crack take a bite of it and it's like yeah I

20:05

get it like when people like when those same people

20:07

cross the country they were like we

20:10

definitely died definitely died This

20:12

is the promised land. Yeah, like no more no

20:14

more pitches. We've arrived. Do you ever think about

20:17

how? heavily

20:19

genetically manipulated any fruit or vegetable we

20:21

eat nowadays like what did an apple

20:23

look like to them back then like

20:25

I was Live a really boring

20:27

life. I was watching a Japanese

20:30

documentary about apples the other day They

20:37

showed like native Japanese apples

20:39

as existed before Western apples arrived and

20:41

they were like Maybe

20:43

a little bigger than like a ping-pong ball. Yeah, and

20:46

then like the host like takes a bite is like

20:48

It's a really sour, you know, like

20:51

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's like hum

20:53

I suppose if you'd

20:55

never had anything sweet before this

20:58

would taste sweet right nowadays Our

21:00

apples are like massive monsters. It's

21:02

just like Right,

21:06

they're so good. Yeah, but I feel like I've even seen

21:08

that in my life like when I was a little kid

21:11

It was like what are your options granny Smith read

21:13

delicious? Maybe a Fuji if you

21:15

were lucky Yeah, and like that and that was

21:17

it Well, there's that you never

21:20

that famous tweet like a single sour patch

21:22

kid would kill a pilgrim like if they

21:24

had it like I don't know

21:26

based off how sour fruit used to be Be

21:29

that bad. I put it to you that like a

21:31

modern cosmic crisp Apple would like Just

21:34

absolutely kill a like a founding father.

21:36

They take a bite of him. Oh

21:39

my god Just like dissolve instantly. So

21:41

whenever we hear the story what Adam

21:43

and Eve where Eve takes a bite of the Apple,

21:45

right? Very small With

21:48

those tiny little things. It was two bites. She had half

21:52

And they were gone Cuz I

21:54

mean like yeah you think about it how how

21:56

genetically modified our food I mean all the food and

21:59

sex because it has to be one

22:01

mass produced, it has to be

22:03

incredibly easy to grow and survive.

22:05

Shipping storage. There

22:09

are so many more things that the fruit

22:11

has to do to be good

22:15

for consumption, good for public consumption, where it's

22:17

like, well, in nature, it just has to

22:19

deliver seeds to make more trees. That's all

22:22

it's designed to do. So it's designed to

22:24

fall from the tree, roll a little ways,

22:27

disintegrate, have

22:29

that fruit pulpish matter, mostly

22:31

be eaten by scavengers,

22:34

but then also feed the soil and feed the

22:36

seeds for the thing to grow a new tree.

22:39

That's a very simple process that

22:41

nature's perfected over millions of years.

22:43

In this documentary. Yes.

22:45

By the way, I watched an Japanese

22:48

Apple documentary. It may be the most dust

22:50

sentence I've ever heard in my life. I

22:52

watched a grape one too, which we can

22:54

follow up with this if you're interested. They

22:56

have multiple fruit documentaries. This

22:58

guy, this Japanese farmer is growing apples and he

23:00

talks about how halfway through the

23:02

growing season, he has to go out and rotate

23:04

every apple because only half of them are getting

23:06

sun and turning red and the other half is

23:08

green. So he has to go out and move

23:11

every apple on the tree so that the green

23:13

side is now facing the sun. So

23:15

it turns red as well. Like that's how much

23:17

care has to go into this fruit now. It's

23:19

not just like fall off the tree and

23:21

dissolve and grow a new tree. Right. Huh?

23:25

Just so that aesthetically, when you look at it, you

23:27

don't think that's a fucked up looking apple. Well,

23:29

yeah, that's fucked up. Um,

23:32

wouldn't it not, wouldn't it not twist off

23:34

the. That's another thing

23:36

that they have to worry about when they like cross pollinate and

23:38

they make these, these new breeds of

23:40

apples. Like it has to withstand taking

23:42

half a turn on the

23:44

tree and not come off so that it

23:46

can get fully sunned. Cheese dude. Well, what

23:48

did I tan my apple pepper? What

23:51

did I do with my English major? Well, I'm an apple turner.

23:55

I work out and work on a field,

23:57

turning apples, making sure they make it like

23:59

a rotisserie I'm making sure they

24:01

get full sun. That's how an Apple turnover started.

24:03

Oh Burning

24:06

of the app. No, it's good. It's good. You got

24:08

it. You got it out Yeah,

24:15

no, well, it's Apparently

24:18

and this is just kind of the fact

24:20

it all comes back to capitalism No, like

24:22

the thing about fruit being

24:25

ugly is like a huge

24:27

deal like so much of the

24:30

you know so much of

24:32

the way that fruit is modified and like is

24:35

not only modified but also chosen to be

24:37

in grocery stores is how aesthetically pleasing it

24:39

is because So many like that

24:41

was the thing that I noticed out there in

24:44

organist Like you go to these you go

24:46

to these these farms which do sell their

24:48

their their fruit to you know Chains

24:51

and supply, you know grocery stores around the

24:53

country But a lot of them

24:55

I think most of them that

24:57

are there available like in these like bins and

24:59

outside and you like go and like can you

25:02

pick your own are Not the

25:04

most beautiful fruit you've ever seen I mean some

25:06

of them are but like there's some there was

25:08

a fucked up looking Apple Mm-hmm, right and it's

25:10

like people just don't want to buy them people don't

25:12

want to buy and it tasted exactly the same It

25:15

tasted just fine. I wish I wish

25:17

I could have brought I

25:19

wish I could have brought in some back and done

25:21

it on This podcast because we I got nine different

25:23

varieties of apples Cuz

25:28

you an Apple taste off because

25:31

some of them were home runs

25:33

no notes incredible Apple perfectly

25:36

sweet crisp delicious

25:39

No, yeah amazing and some of

25:42

them were dog shit Like

25:46

you just like oh, yeah this and they all

25:48

have like, you know, you know, you know Your

25:50

apples your you know, you're like food G's your

25:53

Macintosh your classic your red delicious, which is the

25:55

worst apple waxy

25:57

fucking ball guys

26:00

ever saw this video I only saw it recently

26:02

of this woman who was talking about

26:05

the wax they put on apples and

26:07

takes up like a single boiling water and puts

26:09

the apples in it and it essentially

26:11

melts off the wax and they turn a

26:13

different color like to like

26:16

a more of like a purpley kind of

26:18

like apple color rather than that like bright

26:20

red. Now I want to do that.

26:22

So I don't like it's probably not necessary

26:24

to do it's probably not a bad thing to

26:26

do to melt the wax off these apples but

26:29

yeah they're like coloring them to make them look

26:31

vibrant for people. Gross.

26:33

Disgusting. Yeah the I'm just I'm

26:36

just amazed that like some I'm

26:38

just amazed some haven't been phased

26:40

out. Yeah who's buying red

26:42

delicious apples? I want to make sorry

26:44

elementary school lunches are buying red delicious

26:46

apple. I'm gonna make a list and

26:48

we're going after whoever is still buying

26:50

red delicious apple from the year 2023.

26:52

I think we only get Fuji. I

26:55

think that's our Apple choice. You better let me know by the

26:57

end of the day. You mean at your your home? You

27:00

switch over to Honeycrisp or

27:03

Cosmic Crisp. Fugees

27:05

were great in the 90s. Listen

27:07

we've come a long way much

27:10

like the Fugees. I get whatever my

27:12

fiance. You should go down there. You can say

27:14

that now. I can. Well I'll probably talk about

27:19

on the previous we probably talked about on

27:22

the previous podcast too. I was on that one.

27:24

Yeah. Free tapes. Yeah

27:26

so doing the mental math of

27:29

when stuff comes out. Yeah. You

27:32

should go you know maybe

27:34

you should go down to the Central Market that's over

27:37

here in North Lamar. I don't know if you spend

27:39

much time there. They have a crazy selection of apples.

27:41

Really? Like I think in town they have the most

27:43

variety of different types of apples. Just do an apple

27:45

tasting like Andrew's talking about. Go down buy one of

27:47

each. Okay. And just try them all. Yeah and you

27:49

can I mean they're not getting

27:52

one apple. Not expensive. You can do an

27:54

apple taste test for probably under 10 bucks.

27:56

We're still in like the prime apple time

27:58

of year. Yeah. Is

28:00

this the longest anyone's ever talked about apples? This

28:03

is the apple, this is the apple, this is the apple. I think,

28:05

I think Newton maybe milked the apple for a

28:07

little longer than we are. Yeah,

28:09

and also Steve Jobs. Also Steve

28:12

Jobs, yeah. Yeah. But

28:14

uh... He spent a lot of time talking about apples. Yeah,

28:16

he was kind of a dickmell. Uh,

28:19

no yeah, I think this is probably, we're probably,

28:21

my producer's telling me, yeah, stop talking about apples.

28:24

Is that what I was talking about? So anyway,

28:26

the grape documentary was interesting. The grape documentary, yes.

28:29

No, now tell me, I actually, but here's the thing,

28:31

because you know, we share a little bit of the

28:33

same interest stuff. Tell me about

28:35

these grapes, because like, I actually, I

28:37

would also watch an apple documentary. The

28:39

focus of the documentary specifically was about

28:41

like, the muscat grape, which I don't

28:43

know if you're familiar with it, it's

28:45

a super expensive premium grape. All I know

28:47

are the red grapes, the green grapes, and then

28:49

the cotton candy grapes. Oh, garbage. Never

28:51

had them. The muscat grape,

28:54

I think gained a little bit of popularity on the

28:56

internet a year ago or so. There

28:58

was like viral videos showing it because like people would go to like, H

29:01

Mar and show it and be like, this, but

29:03

this bunch of grapes costs $50. Oh

29:06

wow. Like they're super

29:08

premium grapes. And

29:10

so this documentary was about the growing process for this.

29:13

And the growth on that was even wilder because you

29:16

know, the guy is making sure that it follows this

29:18

one guy who's like, it's his, he's

29:20

still relatively young, you know, he's learning a lot from

29:22

like the next farmer over. And you

29:24

know, on top of making sure that they get

29:26

the right amount of sun, like they're shaded appropriately as

29:29

they're growing. Every day he has to go out and look

29:31

at every single bunch and be like, do I need to

29:33

cut any of these grapes out so that the rest of

29:35

the bunch, the rest of the grapes can be okay. So

29:37

he's got like a turning them though. He does have to

29:39

turn them. Oh my God. He's got like

29:41

these tiny little shears and like one grape at

29:44

a time is making sure every bunch he's bond

29:46

line, he's bond line these great. Yes. And

29:49

then like after a certain point in the growing season,

29:51

just to go out with like these kind of like

29:53

paper bags and then cover them. Oh my God. And

29:55

be like, now they have to spend the next three or

29:57

four weeks like this with the paper on them covered.

30:00

you know, to finish out the growing season and he

30:02

talks about like, yeah, if a hurricane comes or there's

30:04

a storm, then they get blown and they, you know,

30:06

they might hit each other and bruise each other. So,

30:08

like so much money lost. Yeah. And it's like, no

30:10

wonder these things cost like $50 a bunch. And

30:13

then his wife like runs a bakery. She's like, yeah, I

30:15

use all the grapes and I make big goods with grapes

30:17

and people come and eat all of our grapes. Like the

30:19

ones that don't look perfect. We can, uh, you know, that's

30:22

a job I could do. Yeah. I

30:24

could be a grape farmer, a grape

30:26

tender, grape tender. It seemed like so

30:29

much work, Barbara. He was like out

30:31

there all day cutting individual. That

30:33

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33:47

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33:49

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33:51

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33:53

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it. Oh, thank you. And

36:00

she like turns her screen around and shows it

36:02

to me and says, do you want to retake

36:04

it? And I was like, nah. Like, cause she

36:06

immediately is assuming you'd want to re-do that. Yeah,

36:08

like you want to re-do that? You want to

36:10

re-do, right? I brought in that photo. I think

36:12

it is maybe the worst photo that's ever been

36:14

taken of me in the world. It's really small.

36:16

I'm sorry. You're going to have to

36:18

zoom in. There's no other details, right, that are shown? No, I folded

36:20

it over. I don't know how well you

36:22

can see it. Like my chin,

36:24

my neck rolls are like sticking out

36:27

because of how I had to like

36:29

look down. Your face itself looks great

36:31

though. I have to take my glasses

36:33

off because it makes you take your glasses off because

36:35

I feel weird about it to begin with. And then

36:37

my chin is just like tucked in and my neck

36:39

rolls are sticking out. It's awful.

36:41

Oh my god. And I

36:44

love it. Yeah, you could never

36:46

change that. Yeah, I mean, there's

36:48

something truly magical about like a

36:51

wildly unflattering photo where it's like...

36:54

Oh, I have to keep this. I have to keep

36:56

this. This is like... Because

36:58

like on the other side of

37:01

being captured, being captured in a

37:03

photograph, so am I. So,

37:10

in the same way you appreciate it's like, oh, that's like

37:12

a really good photograph of me. That

37:14

looks better than I actually think I look normally. So it's like, oh,

37:16

I got to keep that. I got to use that for

37:18

all the profile photos. I got to use all that. And

37:20

I think there's also something very wonderful and very magical about

37:22

one that's like, listen, I don't

37:24

look like that normally and that looks

37:26

terrible. I got a hold out of

37:28

that. I have not hit rock bottom.

37:30

Exactly. I do have a question about this.

37:32

I want to get y'all's opinion on it. So

37:35

I have a friend who wants

37:37

to actually get a new passport because she

37:39

doesn't like her photo. She doesn't like

37:41

the way she looks in her passport photo. And

37:45

I am of the belief of who

37:47

the fuck cares because who's seeing it? One

37:50

person just to confirm it's you and then like. And

37:52

it's not like you use it all the time or

37:54

whenever you leave the country and come back in. Yeah.

37:58

It's not like anybody public sees it. It's

38:00

maybe, I would say passport photo

38:03

for most people, maybe the least seen

38:05

photo of you ever. Ever,

38:07

right. And I'm like, is it worth the

38:09

time and money and energy it takes to like get

38:11

a whole new passport just because you don't like the photo? Yeah,

38:14

like when I came home with this temporary photo,

38:16

my wife immediately asked me, why didn't she retake

38:18

the photo? And you're like, are you kidding me?

38:21

And I said, who's going to see it? I'm going to

38:23

show it to a TSA agent when I fly. Maybe if

38:25

I get pulled over for speeding

38:27

or something, like that's it. No one's ever going to see it.

38:29

Obviously, like, I think he stole this car. This is the thing

38:31

here. This guy's a... And then you go, this guy's a rich

38:33

troll. Oh, no. Oh, no. Sorry.

38:37

Mr. Sorolla, I'm so sorry. So I don't think it's

38:39

worth the effort. No, I don't think so either. I

38:41

think if she's really intent

38:44

on it, I think you can take your

38:46

own photo and... Yeah, it just has

38:49

to like have some criteria, right? Right, it has to add

38:51

here to the standards. Are you allowed to smile in

38:53

a US passport photo because you're not in Canada? I

38:56

don't think so. I don't think you're supposed to.

38:58

Yeah, it's an expression. It's a neutral face. Expressionless.

39:00

Yeah, I feel like mine, I just recently

39:02

got my passport renewed and

39:06

I feel like in mine, I

39:08

think I'm doing the Kubrick stare in mine.

39:10

There it is. Over

39:13

the eyebrow bones. I

39:16

don't like it. I don't like it either. Yeah,

39:18

totally. Stop it, stop it. Yeah,

39:20

it's again, not flattering, but it was like, I'm

39:23

not... Can we reach it? Get out of

39:25

here. You're not going to be looking at that? Someone

39:27

who's looking at you after you got off of a 10 hour flight. You're

39:30

not going to be looking your best to begin

39:32

with. That's what you're going to look like. It's

39:34

fine. Yeah, exactly. Like this big. I

39:37

don't know. I just don't get it. I

39:39

renewed my passport recently too, a couple of

39:41

months ago. And I

39:44

guess they changed it. I didn't realize that they changed

39:47

the US passports. Now they've got like a hard plastic

39:49

page in them where your

39:51

photo is. It's like, oh. Trevor has

39:53

that. They're not saving it. My Canadian passport

39:55

is paper. I'm finding

39:57

a new one soon. I think so.

40:00

I need to renew it sometime Canadian passport is a maple

40:02

leaf From

40:06

the family tree um When

40:09

I first got my first passport back in 2004 They

40:13

were in the process in the United States. They were

40:15

in the process of starting to introduce RFID chips And

40:19

I was very scared of that so I

40:21

was happy on my passport 2004 cuz I had the non

40:23

RFID Mm-hmm passport and then when I had to

40:25

renew it in 2014 I was like oh

40:27

well now you got to get it because I had seen

40:29

like some scary videos online like proof of concept

40:31

Attacks or you could have RFID

40:34

readers that recognize

40:37

certain signals from

40:39

certain country RFID and detonate like

40:41

an explosive for example whoa What?

40:46

I'd rather not have Obviously,

40:48

it's I don't think it's ever happened in

40:50

practice sure yeah Yeah, but in theory

40:52

in theory. It's like you could read

40:55

it You know who knows what the actual

40:57

distance is this more it was more like

40:59

a proof of concept thing that they were

41:01

showing Interesting so that like your like a

41:03

particular RFID signature could be like Within

41:06

proximity of something like it basically

41:09

activated like the trigger wild So

41:13

anyway put that on your nightmare list My

41:17

god my god oh My

41:20

god, I don't know if I should have

41:22

told you this story earlier Gus because it's

41:25

an airport related story Oh tell me everything

41:28

So I was recently over in the UK Little

41:35

trip but also a convention of course so I

41:37

went to Birmingham and then came back to Austin

41:39

after that You

41:42

phone internationally Coming

41:44

back to Austin where you have to go

41:46

through customs in Austin no I never have

41:48

done customs in Austin Oh, I have it is

41:50

the single worst experience ever Cuz

41:53

the way you have to get your luggage before

41:55

going through customs here in Austin The

41:58

way they have it situated. The often

42:00

airport. Is they have the baggage

42:02

carousel in this tiny little room where

42:05

there's also the customs like line and

42:07

desk and somewhere that. The.

42:09

Escalator goes down into where

42:12

the baggage carousel is. And

42:14

you know how people act around baggage? Carousel and

42:16

like an animal around. More on I'll

42:18

stand clustered by the where the bags

42:20

fall out so they can. Immediately see their

42:22

bags instead of evenly spreading out around the.

42:25

Terrorists. Or to standing back and waiting. and and step up

42:27

when you see you're gonna. Just anywhere. I just

42:29

don't understand that fast. And.

42:31

He's over. the place the people

42:33

congregate is the place that the

42:35

escalator goes down and people don't

42:38

understand of like. I'm.

42:40

Coming down the escalator you have. To

42:42

move. I'm. And when I

42:44

arrived at the Us and airport there

42:46

was another international flight the Her. I've just

42:48

before us. So. They kept us in

42:50

the hall before going down the escalator. To.

42:53

Get down to the bag the fire alarm

42:55

starts going off in the Us and airport.

42:57

Oh that's like attention Everyone Please find the

43:00

nearest exit next of the building. Do Not

43:02

use the elevators like this is the fire

43:04

alarm. Whatever. We. Had no idea what

43:06

was going on. there is no and telling us so everyone's

43:08

courses like standing. They're not doing anything. And

43:11

it takes about an hour for us. To

43:13

be able to goad down to get our

43:15

bags to go through customs. And luckily because

43:17

I have a green card I was able

43:19

to go through like the Us? Yeah! but

43:21

the international line of people who were like

43:23

not Us citizens or residents was like. A

43:27

mile long. Know it was awful. Ah

43:29

I'm so do not suggest you can

43:31

under got a cat and mouse and

43:34

such still was on fire alarm going

43:36

off like everyone please exit the building.

43:38

Any I don't know terrorists be on

43:40

your best bet on the honor to

43:43

to on the honor system. You're gonna pass

43:45

this tie with. Found out later that it was the

43:47

tests but no one was saying it was a towel

43:49

Marcel like people were does kind of like still hanging

43:51

around and then when I left the customs area to

43:53

like. Go. Into the main airport and

43:55

leave. I guess because of the fire alarm.

43:58

There were just like lines in line. Unlike.

44:00

In light of people, Like bit the line for

44:02

security was going out the front door. The

44:04

airport. Awful. Flake. I'd never I'd never my

44:06

life seen at Not Bad and I'm like

44:08

thank god I'm leave. And Go. Well

44:12

beyond the airport or another. some real

44:14

thrill local stuff for you are awesome

44:16

local classic Rt part of like broadcast

44:18

over gripes of the Austin airport arm

44:21

there during construction on a right now

44:23

as the has and habit while for

44:25

every I met you I mean it's

44:27

the I thirty five of airports anyway

44:29

they are during construction on the exit

44:31

like the main exit to the airport

44:33

where like you will have to land

44:36

get off your going down into it's

44:38

that escalated going on when baggage. Claim

44:40

and they have. Basically

44:43

cordoned off all exits to essentially.

44:46

File An Entire Airports are the people. Have

44:48

you been there is an You. They're filing

44:50

An Entire Airports where the people through like

44:52

essentially. A double door slides. Yeah

44:54

and it is an idea for a while. it is

44:57

the like that for. A while and I like

44:59

I hadn't flown in a long time. When

45:01

I am that came back from it isn't

45:03

a couple weeks ago and. You.

45:05

Walk up and you're like oh surely not. This is

45:07

not how it is. Oh it's only an hour or

45:10

cattle being like oh this is how okay. Great!

45:12

And you're just as to ankles.

45:14

Like shuffling which three like emperor penguins

45:16

trying to keep warm live through this

45:19

thing and area like flight anxiety and

45:21

like you know, cove anxiety, Roman and

45:23

airports on just like do Not linger

45:25

for as like the fucking worst Papers

45:27

are so much but it has been

45:29

like that. Apparently I was like oh

45:32

they're probably that's that's probably six by

45:34

now writers. Like

45:36

that was like. Think it was since like right around

45:38

when the pandemic started. Going when the doors

45:40

were like that, he earned. Yeah, I

45:42

think there's an article that came out

45:45

about the worst airports in the U

45:47

S Austin? Number three. Yeah, Serial

45:50

number Three Worth airport. I've been

45:52

in so much worse with assistance.

45:55

What worst? Okay, well that was

45:57

the worst major city airports because

45:59

well, I'm. Going to say my sister

46:01

lives in that I'm a message was in

46:03

Bend, Oregon. I love the airport there because

46:06

it's a bike in Redmond in Redmond Organ

46:08

because. It's. Like. It's

46:10

essentially alerts about the size of like I had

46:13

a small Walmart spaghetti like walks or at you

46:15

get your bag like there's no water. the plane

46:17

it's so easy to get some All Roy dog

46:19

food. That a subject

46:21

on the plus some physicists that as. A

46:24

small town airport. Cattle Rocks. Of

46:26

it's yeah there is no was no hubbub you like

46:29

watch your for you literally like you bought supplement your

46:31

the beetle us when i used my old job is

46:33

to travel lot and osbourne lot of time in the

46:35

midwest and but one time i showed up front of

46:37

amp to give you time them in of the wanted

46:39

to like any i i just one of ads and

46:42

stuff like that of flying out of Madison Wisconsin in

46:44

a showed up to the Madison airport super analyst at

46:46

an early flight and like i finished my work and

46:48

is like business I didn't have to didn't bother go

46:50

to the hotels went a hotel picked up my bagram

46:53

simplistic to the airports so to the airport like for

46:55

am. And. The airport was closed.

46:57

Of my oh I've never experienced before. Like

47:00

a just. It's like a smaller town. big

47:02

Madison as you'd yeah nice big. just don't

47:04

have flight so the airport's closed. the doors

47:06

are actually locked like oh I'm gonna go

47:08

I guess. What? You do or

47:10

I like I was like i guess I'll just

47:13

go back to my rental car and sit in

47:15

it for a now. The rail car returns close

47:17

to looks like he just left your car. there

47:19

are pretty much Raphael. oh okay I got my

47:21

keys and get back in the car and aren't.a

47:23

six year for the worst on our for the

47:26

airport to open our go in and leave. Fall:

47:28

Where am I gonna get a nineteen dollars

47:30

salad? Assess the Jets own

47:32

innocent yeah, ah, small

47:35

there might Madison. Wisconsin Like

47:37

not. I'd imagine they

47:39

have a beer airport announcement this is

47:41

also back in, you know, two thousand.

47:43

Ah noses. Twenty. Three knots with

47:46

columns. Twenty five years when folks saw the

47:48

i guess probably a you know grown a

47:50

bit since it but it's not. A

47:53

small town but it's not you would you back when

47:55

you list major cities and unites it now Madison Wisconsin

47:57

is not jump to live. Wilde

48:01

tangent really quick. Wow! Barbara finds I'm not finding

48:03

the article where it said the word for adults

48:06

are no one or two A number one I

48:08

know I want to know who to be mad

48:10

at later I that know of was up there

48:12

as the know I think New York Jets a

48:14

bad rap new it's not terrible. That.

48:17

It's it's okay and where we have ah

48:19

I'm not seeing them any less. I'm looking for

48:21

some maybe we have seen during the are

48:23

every time I ever to my flight l

48:25

a everyone's like all go Burbank. Know.

48:27

Go away still Burbank. I didn't want to.

48:30

Go to Burbank of sort of L A

48:32

x the about parents like way easier to

48:35

get to. where does people don't have you're

48:37

like me have me up or like not

48:39

causing a busy or Burbank right? Oh yeah

48:41

biggest problem oh yeah knows what? have you

48:43

in a funhouse to their in Burbank yahya

48:45

Like being able to fly in and. Like

48:48

all their two minutes away, they let actually

48:50

a funhouse operates. In the airport in

48:52

L. A great result. Yes! Ah

48:55

Also places such as soon

48:58

Orange County once. All

49:00

which is A or had to go down to

49:02

like Anaheim was like oh like Orange County down

49:04

the alley I done as guards county airport like

49:07

oh. With. Is a must be. Analogous to

49:09

Burbank's like there's not a ton of like you're lucky

49:11

you'll I'm like oh this is great. It's a time

49:13

yes and like the rebellious care just as you'd like.

49:15

I'm some You get my shit and go as it

49:17

does. Doesn't fly in L a X and drive a

49:19

fucking our to Anaheim. It's very nice. Yeah if you

49:22

air that. The only problem is is like if you're.

49:24

Part. Of if you have like points on a major

49:26

airline like I fly American usually so I try to

49:29

take american flights collide status. I'm not

49:31

a lot of direct flights. Yeah, I

49:33

think that jet is like one specific

49:35

for that, I sank as he's like

49:37

southwestern other things like that, which not

49:39

a huge. Of. He i

49:41

I like having in the sciences. Or.

49:44

do they are is it is it just like

49:46

first come first serve out of well south and

49:48

west i think you like it depends on when

49:50

you check and of like where you rank in

49:52

terms of like how soon you could board been

49:54

on the pay extra to board sooner ah and

49:56

then like it's like group a one through twenty

49:58

group a twenty through forty Uh, you

50:01

basically get a number and a letter on your boarding

50:03

pass and then you have to sort yourself in the

50:05

line Which we got on the homework Yeah Like

50:07

that boarding process the best out of any

50:09

airline because I am so fucking sick of

50:11

being group like one or two For boarding

50:13

and there's like all these people just standing

50:15

right by like the boarding doors Gate lights

50:17

and you have to like get around them

50:19

to get in and yours and it's like

50:21

oh what group are you seven? Sit

50:24

down like yeah, go get a coffee And

50:28

so like that that's what's good about Southwest is

50:31

like everyone places themselves into where they're that's good

50:33

United Started I think last month they

50:35

started boarding a little differently now Where

50:37

I think like groups one and two

50:39

board as usual and then anyone beyond

50:41

that they board windows first then middle

50:43

seats And then aisle seats whoa, I

50:45

think their goal is to shave two

50:47

minutes off of the boarding time They're

50:49

like if they think that's all they want to do it's like

50:51

small gains like two minutes here to Back

50:54

to front it's like Olympic qualifying numbers is

50:56

like like point four seconds

50:59

faster We're we're made it CGP gray

51:01

has a great video about all

51:04

the different ways you could possibly board an

51:06

airplane Uh-huh, you know and the best way

51:08

is it's super inconvenient It's like back of

51:10

plane windows to front of plane windows then

51:12

back of plane middle to front of plane

51:14

middle Then back of plane aisle and front

51:16

don't get up and move and all that

51:18

right and it's like It

51:21

would it's the most efficient But it's

51:23

a pain in the butt trying to organize that

51:25

trying to orchestrate that with a bunch

51:27

of eye Rate and

51:29

you already stressed out people would be

51:31

a fucking nightmare. It's people who want to get their bag out

51:33

I mean, that's the that's the only reason people are like anxious about

51:35

getting on It's like they want to make sure they

51:37

get a spot for their bag. Yeah, I so for

51:39

the first time I Like I

51:42

mentioned earlier. I went to went on vacation like I guess

51:44

but I right when this comes out It'll been a few

51:46

months ago But

51:48

on the flight back I

51:51

flew first class for the first Because

51:54

there's only a hundred dollar upgrade for the ticket, you know, no,

51:56

no, no Yourself I'm gonna treat

51:58

myself on the way back, too Like I feel

52:00

like that's good like the first class line on the way

52:02

back. It's like you're The

52:05

last treat, you know you can have secretary

52:07

is like so my first time flying first

52:10

class and I Shouldn't

52:12

have done it cuz now I'm like, well,

52:14

I've got the hunger. Yeah, it's now what

52:17

I fucking treat It is kind of it's

52:20

nice as fuck It's a little

52:22

also very sad how much

52:24

better people in first class get treated than

52:26

the rest of the plane It's like awful.

52:28

I mean when you see that difference

52:30

and it's just like the contrast

52:32

could not be starker animals They treat

52:35

the people back there like animals There's

52:37

a there's a bit in an old Seinfeld episode. I don't

52:40

know if you remember well Yeah, yeah, yeah for the plan.

52:42

There's like we only have one seat in first class one

52:44

seat in economy and Jerry says I'll take the first class.

52:46

He says why don't you give it to me? He says

52:48

you've never been there before you don't know what you're missing.

52:50

Yeah Once

52:52

you do that, there's no going back You'll

52:55

never be able to not fly first class again, we

52:57

had a Whole

52:59

situation going to Edinburgh Which

53:02

I think is like one of the

53:04

it's such a silly story Is

53:07

this a relationship tester story? No, really

53:09

no, I mean like I like one

53:11

that affirms your your good relationship. Yeah.

53:14

Yeah. Yeah So

53:16

Trevor and I went to Edinburgh for like a

53:18

vacation where we got engaged But

53:21

like it was the first vacation we've taken in a

53:23

really long time and we were like wanting to go

53:25

all out for it Mm-hmm, and we had like premium

53:27

economy on our flights on the way there which on

53:29

an international flight premium economy is like nice It's

53:31

not very nice and

53:33

we were looking at our seats like as we were in the uber on

53:35

the way to the airport and I was like There's

53:37

some business class seats available for like only like

53:40

400 bucks to upgrade and I know $400 is

53:42

not a small amount Yeah,

53:44

but when it's an international flight, that's

53:46

a good deal for an international Tickets

53:48

are like thousands of dollars more. Yeah,

53:51

and it was like first vacation a while We were

53:53

ones, you know storage a little bit a hundred percent

53:55

And so we're like there's two seats left like let's

53:57

both get them and like treat ourselves to like

54:00

for Class International. And

54:02

we go to click on them. And we're

54:04

on separate itineraries too, because I was flying Edinburgh,

54:06

and then I was taking the train to Birmingham

54:08

for the convention and flying back to Austin, where he

54:10

was just going round trip Edinburgh, because he was flying home

54:12

before I went to the convention. So we're

54:14

on different ticket itineraries. So we each had to buy our ticket.

54:17

We're in the Uber. I click,

54:19

we click the seats. We click like, okay,

54:21

pay, checkout. His goes through. Mine

54:24

says, didn't go

54:26

through. I get a text that's like, fraud alert from your credit

54:29

card. I'm like, oh shit, like,

54:31

I guess because you're spending a few hundred bucks

54:33

on an international, like whatever. Was

54:36

it an airline credit card? It was. Oh,

54:38

extra damning. For

54:41

a different airline though. We

54:43

were flying KLM, I'm an American credit card. And.

54:47

It couldn't possibly be Barbara, she flies American. What is

54:49

this? What's he doing? So he gets the

54:52

seat, and I'm like on the

54:54

phone trying to get the fraud alert thing. But

54:56

at that point, I can't change the seat online, because it's

54:58

like three hours before, or like two

55:00

hours before the flight, so you can't change your

55:02

seat anymore. And so

55:04

I'm like, okay, we'll just like deal with it when we get up

55:07

to, like we'll go to the check-in desk and deal with it at

55:09

the airport. I'm still on

55:11

the phone. I cannot understand anything this person

55:13

is saying. They're talking so quietly and so

55:15

like, they're not enunciating anything.

55:17

I can't tell what they're saying. So

55:20

can you just tell me

55:22

what the numbers on

55:24

the course are? And I'm just like, sorry,

55:27

like, could you repeat that? And they're like,

55:30

do you have the code for, and I'm just

55:32

like, I don't know what you're referring to. Like,

55:34

let me just call back so I can check

55:36

in. Because I have another credit card I could

55:38

use if I need to. Get

55:41

to the desk. There's a man also checking in next

55:43

to me who maybe got there like three seconds

55:45

before us. And I was

55:47

like, hey, so this happened when you were trying to

55:49

get seats. Is it okay?

55:51

Like, is that still available? Could I buy it here?

55:54

She was looking, she's like, yep, there's a seat in

55:56

business class. I could get that for you, and really

55:58

great, cool. like typing it in, she

56:00

goes, oh, actually, uh, that

56:02

was just bought by him. Um, and

56:06

so they're literally like,

56:08

just swipe the credit card and

56:10

I'm like devastated cause it's like, oh, we

56:12

had this like opportunity to cause he got

56:14

the seat and I am not making him

56:16

switch back. I'm like, you treat yourself. I

56:20

ended up covering it for his birthday also like as a

56:22

birthday present. Um, but

56:24

he, Trevor saw how upset I

56:26

was and he turned to the guy next to us and he

56:28

was like, I know this is like a

56:30

really big ask, but like

56:33

we're traveling. It's really special trip for us. Um,

56:36

and like we just tried to get the ticket and

56:38

like her credit card like had a fraud alert and

56:42

the guy was like, you

56:44

know what? Yeah. Like you can give it to them and give

56:46

it to them. But then the lady behind the

56:48

counter was like, I already

56:50

swiped your credit card there. I can't undo it right

56:52

now. So the seat has gone through and the guy

56:54

was like, Oh, well, like

56:56

he was basically just like trying to be nice. Yeah.

56:58

It's like, well, I guess it's not going to work.

57:00

So, um, so I'm going to

57:03

go enjoy that free orange juice and the most,

57:05

uh, I'll drink an extra one in your, in

57:07

your, in your memory. And so of course, Trevor's

57:09

like, you take the seat, you take the seat and I'm like, no,

57:11

no, no. Like I, I've had

57:13

the opportunity to fly in that like position

57:15

before and like you've never tried it before. So like

57:17

you should try it. Like it's for

57:19

your birthday. Like I want you to experience that. And so

57:21

like he flew and premium economy was

57:23

fine. It was fine. Oh yeah. It's not like

57:25

an overnight flight, right? No, it's a 10 hour,

57:27

10, 10 and a

57:30

half hour flight. Um, but

57:33

yeah, it was just like brutal. All these

57:35

little things happened just the wrong time. Like if

57:37

we had looked at the seats like 10 minutes

57:40

earlier and I got my credit card to fix it, or

57:42

if we had arrived two minutes before that guy did and

57:44

bought the seat, I can't believe they make you

57:46

call also. Like normally you would think in the

57:48

text, like, was this you reply? Why am you

57:50

know, they clear it or something. And even while I

57:52

was doing it, I was like, should I use my credit card on,

57:55

on Apple pay or should I just use PayPal? I'm

57:57

like, Oh, use my credit card. If I just didn't PayPal it

57:59

would be Yeah, yeah, there's the

58:01

checks of the checks there much easier

58:04

to just like yeah Yeah, they

58:06

take it out of your account again extreme

58:08

first-world problem. We are very great Grateful

58:11

to be able to afford that luxury for the trip

58:13

But it's nice you got in gay like you this

58:15

is a very Yeah,

58:18

I Love

58:20

I love the guy like Yeah,

58:22

and the second he was given an out not to

58:25

do it It's like okay be great like the

58:27

smoke outline of where he was standing

58:29

like already aha I

58:32

tried I did I still get the moral

58:34

high Mortal

58:36

credits yeah, Jesus

58:39

that gosh the maybe you

58:41

could just switch Honestly

58:47

yeah, why not why couldn't

58:49

you just like hey? I don't know they probably it's

58:51

like a security thing with like whose name is associated

58:53

with the seat like I don't know I don't

58:55

know how KLM works, but sometimes like on United also.

58:57

There's a credit card associated with the seat Oh,

59:00

it's like you don't pay the flight attendant for

59:02

anything that you buy They just automatically charge it

59:04

to the credit card and then on my way

59:06

back home my flight was canceled. Yeah I

59:10

had a great travel time but

59:13

My KLM flight it was going from Birmingham

59:15

to Amsterdam Amsterdam to Austin and I guess

59:17

Amsterdam at the time was experiencing like a

59:19

huge snowstorm and My

59:22

flight from Birmingham to Amsterdam just got

59:24

canceled Oh, and they were like

59:26

I got this alert on Saturday my flight

59:28

was Monday morning, and I'm like okay Well

59:31

what else is there and they're like click here for like

59:33

some rebooking options? Click the link

59:35

sorry there are no options And

59:39

so they have like a customer service text line, so

59:41

I texted them I'm like this is my flight. This

59:43

is what I've been told the flight from Amsterdam to

59:45

Austin said it was still fine Did

59:49

not receive a text back I texted at 4 30 in

59:51

the afternoon received a text back at 1 a.m. Oh

59:54

my god, and at that point I had already canceled

59:56

and refunded the flight because it was there

59:58

Thank you, and I just booked myself with

1:00:01

miles on an American flight

1:00:03

from directly from London to Austin on

1:00:05

direct flight but that means I had

1:00:07

to take a car from Birmingham to London Monday

1:00:10

morning which

1:00:12

I ended up splitting with Aaron Zek because she was

1:00:15

going to London for her flight so it's like okay

1:00:17

that sounds expensive as hell but I guess

1:00:19

you're splitting it it ended up being like a

1:00:21

it's like $200 uber

1:00:24

I thought it would have been way worse than that oh so we

1:00:26

split that like a hundred bucks each yeah and also

1:00:28

like I ended up saving money because I got my

1:00:30

full refund back for the flight and

1:00:32

the flight from get this from London

1:00:35

to Austin it was only 22,000 miles

1:00:37

oh that's super which is like

1:00:40

a domestic flight yeah that's

1:00:42

cheap as hell and so like I have miles

1:00:45

accumulated from flying a lot and so it's just

1:00:47

like basically saved money by

1:00:49

not doing it don't kill KLM yeah

1:00:51

I came out ahead in this deal

1:00:53

but it's not a great experience with

1:00:56

KLM I so this is this is

1:00:58

sort of loosely loosely related to flying

1:01:00

well I think it's not loosely it

1:01:02

is directly related to flying but why

1:01:06

because you mentioned the person you were dealing with

1:01:08

a person like at the desk who like was

1:01:10

like making like we're making arrangements I

1:01:13

I've never seen someone type

1:01:15

so much for doing the

1:01:17

simplest they don't have

1:01:19

a mouse I don't know how what the system they don't

1:01:21

have a mouth but it's like okay I just need to

1:01:24

I was wondering if I could like upgrade to

1:01:26

or if I could like switch seats to to to

1:01:28

a window seat okay hold on let me just make

1:01:30

something what

1:01:34

did you say you're on I

1:01:36

have for 20 uninterrupted seconds you're like

1:01:38

what could you possibly be doing I

1:01:40

have the greatest video to show you

1:01:44

I think it was a Wendover production my child

1:01:46

being born no no no and he talks about

1:01:48

it's like a deep dive into what the hell

1:01:50

are they typing okay why does the

1:01:53

system work that way what are they looking at

1:01:55

how does all of that interconnect yeah does it

1:01:57

all work it's like a 20-minute deep dive into

1:01:59

what the fuck It's

1:04:00

missing someone on an old like circuit like a switchboard

1:04:02

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