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to learn more. Hello

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everyone, welcome to the Roost Teeth

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podcast. As always, I am Gus.

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I'm Gavin. and Barbara and Gus. You

2:01

know, I know we just did one of these last

2:03

week, but it really does feel like it's been a

2:05

while since we've been

2:07

here doing this. Yeah. Feel old.

2:10

Yeah, I feel like something happened and I'm not quite

2:12

sure what it is. Time skip.

2:14

Things feel a little different. Were we all just in

2:16

a collective coma? Me. All together.

2:18

It was COVID. Oh. It

2:20

was a pandemic. It's 2019. Our sense of

2:22

time still messed up. Everything's fine. I

2:25

still can't get my head around the fact

2:27

that 2019 was five years ago. It's nuts.

2:29

It seems like three years ago. Some stuff I'm like,

2:31

oh yeah, I just did that. Wait,

2:34

no, that was before the pandemic, so that was five

2:36

years ago. Someone was asking me those too. They're like,

2:38

because Jordan Levin is our GM. They're like,

2:40

when did Jordan join Richard Heath? Like two, three years ago?

2:43

And I was like, 2019. Yeah, somewhere

2:45

2019. So literally five years ago.

2:47

Five years ago. Yeah,

2:50

let's all just give it up. Watching

2:54

that intro, I forgot

2:56

two things. One, I forgot how long that

2:58

intro was. It

3:00

seems like it held forever at the end. And two,

3:02

I forgot how crappy it was. Like

3:05

I remember loving it at the time, and I watched it just now,

3:07

like, oh, that's kind of shit. You loved that? Yeah.

3:09

I thought it was cool, now we'll watch it. I'm like, that's kind

3:11

of crappy, huh? You hear the song

3:13

in your head? Because it didn't play when we saw it. How

3:16

does it go? Yeah,

3:20

that's it. That's exactly it. Use that. Don't

3:22

play the actual song. Just use that.

3:26

What do you think of this? Is the exact same thing? Is

3:28

this crap? So we

3:30

made that 10 years

3:33

ago, no longer than 12 years ago, now,

3:37

I think. I remember we built it together

3:39

in the annex. Yes. And

3:41

we had it, I think, at first to

3:43

use at conventions. So the idea

3:45

was, that was the stupidest idea. It was

3:47

my idea. Terrible. The idea was. No,

3:50

no, it was me. The idea was that we

3:52

would have the set, and

3:55

you could put it all into a crate and take it

3:57

to a convention. So it was like the traveling show. It

4:00

was the whole thing and I'm

4:02

sure I've mentioned it at one point in the past

4:04

the inspirate like we we contracted a company to Make

4:06

it and the the design direction I gave him was

4:08

like the Murph Griffin set that Kramer pulls out of

4:11

the trash on science And

4:14

this is a this is what they came up with it cost

4:20

$40,000 Wow, which bit You

4:23

guys got a good also it also had like the

4:25

glass cases which we threw away and all of that

4:27

other stuff For convention

4:29

tickets. It also had to be designed to be taken

4:32

apart and put in a box I think that was the

4:34

heart heart mental is it I was just about to us

4:36

Why don't just make a traveling version and keep this one,

4:38

but then he said $40,000. Yeah. Yeah, it was annoying Because

4:43

a convention would end on Sunday and we had to record

4:45

a podcast on Monday Yeah, a lot of time. We just

4:47

wouldn't have it back. I don't think we were doing them

4:49

on Monday at that point I think it was a different

4:51

day of the week Was it

4:53

Monday by then Gavin I was just before this started

4:55

we were talking about how the podcast

4:58

used to be recorded in the morning Yeah

5:00

back in 6 3 6. Yeah, like Wednesday

5:02

morning at 10 a.m. 10 a.m. Paul cuss.

5:04

That's good energy I thought I

5:06

think so too, but uh you then you're mentioning it

5:08

makes the tequila one even more Did

5:11

we do it Wednesday night for a bit cuz I remember

5:13

we used to do it like 730 It

5:16

might have been once yeah We did 730 on Mondays too

5:18

But I think we did it on Wednesdays for a while

5:20

and then we moved it to Mondays When do we do

5:22

on Wednesday night? I don't

5:24

know dude thinking about that was like it's

5:27

been 21 years. I don't know

5:30

What it was this podcast. It's only

5:32

been 16

5:36

years only Yeah, 16

5:38

years. It was 2008. Yeah, we

5:40

started like I said the late 2008 You

5:42

started this podcast the same time as the chima hunter

5:45

started then yeah Chima hunter started summer 08

5:47

and then this podcast started like in December.

5:49

Oh wait There was a gap though after

5:51

the first one. Yeah, there was but we

5:53

can still claim awake in December. Yeah, I

5:58

The company ends on the 10th May

6:00

right yes I signed

6:02

up on the website on the 11th of May

6:04

2003 well I'm gonna make

6:07

it exactly no actually

6:09

for you Gavin yeah there is good

6:11

news the last day here

6:14

at the office is the 10th but officially it ends

6:16

on the 11th oh 21 full if

6:20

I only knew when I was 14

6:22

that 21 years later I'd

6:24

be getting fired by one wow

6:28

what a journey first of all you'd

6:31

Google 14 you probably didn't know I

6:35

just recognized the WB I guess on movie

6:37

right yeah you'd probably

6:39

be like whoa we're owned by them that's so

6:41

cool I always wanted I

6:43

always wanted to do a video

6:46

where I never got around

6:48

to it was a bit a bit of work involved

6:50

and I'm really lazy where I show people like movie

6:53

studio intros but then stop it right before

6:55

it shows the name yeah to see if

6:57

people recognize like the

6:59

intros and what it is same thing with video game

7:01

companies like people who are big gamers like do you

7:03

know what this is because I'm sure most people just

7:05

like they like you skip past all that stuff even

7:08

though it's super super relevant to what you're about

7:10

to do I probably

7:12

be better at some of the old ones that

7:14

doesn't that this it would be the other thing it's like some of

7:16

the old throwback stuff Orion

7:18

pictures yeah things

7:20

that don't exist I feel so out

7:22

of it right now like I just

7:24

feel like out of practice even

7:27

though we just podcasted last week right

7:30

thank you you'll get better do

7:32

you know do you not make a podcast anymore yes

7:35

but it's a we're role-playing

7:37

like that's my new salesman stinky dragon which

7:39

is just like you're in character and they're like

7:41

this is just talking that don't you do

7:44

this I know but like I don't have to think of we

7:46

don't have a dungeon master setting up the room

7:52

and there's a box and you're like okay I'll go look at

7:54

the box here you're just like well what

7:56

have I been up to you it's been happening you went

7:58

to this set and sat on a couch Yes.

8:02

And then I sat next to Gavin, my

8:04

good old buddy. Friends

8:06

for 20 years. Roll out a Christmas check. It's

8:09

a Nat 20. Yeah, okay, good. Yeah,

8:12

friends. I actually was looking through some old photos. Thanks,

8:15

Cody. Like in hopes of finding some things

8:17

to post, like, you know, as we wrap

8:20

things up. And I still

8:22

have a photo of Gavin and I that

8:24

Bernie took on Congress when you guys were

8:26

in the Congress office. And

8:28

for years we've been like, oh, well, we'll take this on the

8:30

10 year anniversary of that photo. I

8:32

think that was 10 years ago at this point. Maybe

8:36

not that long. It's 2009? So

8:39

it's 15 years ago. Oh

8:42

my God. So we could do

8:44

the 15th anniversary of that photo. We

8:47

were, all three of us were in

8:49

the kitchen here last week or the week before and

8:51

Gavin had found a video on his phone.

8:55

I remember what it was of us a long time

8:57

ago or something. And Barbara wanted it. So he

8:59

was going to air drop it to her. But then he

9:01

got distracted and sent it to me

9:03

instead. He never sent it to Barbara. Well, no,

9:05

I had to send it to Barbara. I

9:08

don't want this video. And now I've got work to give

9:10

it to Barbara. Gavin just like sent it to me and

9:12

then walked away. No, it was because Barbara wasn't showing up

9:14

on my air drop. And then we tried to make our

9:16

phone shag. You know, you can like put the top and

9:19

it goes like, yeah, it worked. But I made my phone

9:21

shagged your phone and the file went straight onto it. So

9:23

I was like, my wife is done. Yeah.

9:26

And then you shagged Barbara. Don't say it like that.

9:29

Please don't. Hey,

9:31

what are they going to fire? Again,

9:35

it's a, is that going on? It's true. Are

9:38

we talking about that? What? The

9:40

whole shutdown? Oh, I think shutdown. We

9:42

could tell. I mean, I talked about it just now.

9:44

What's the point? There's no news. There's not really much

9:47

to say. People know what's going

9:49

on. It's weird. It's

9:51

surreal. I'm really glad that we

9:53

got to do one last one of these because

9:55

I feel like the RT podcast was like such a staple

9:58

of my time here. in the last 21 years. Like

10:02

every Monday, it was

10:04

weird. It was weird when we stopped doing it. And

10:07

that was a year ago. Was

10:09

it really? Almost. Because

10:12

it was the stake off, right? Yeah, so it

10:14

was like May. May? Was

10:16

it May? I think so. You

10:18

have me? Yeah. God. So

10:20

circle, dude. What

10:23

piece of memorabilia behind us do you want to keep? I'm

10:27

taking the Gavin photo. Oh,

10:31

man. Oh, wow. I bought that

10:33

dramatic hamster painting. How many of those laser

10:35

team action figures did we buy? How

10:38

many can fit into a landfill? Because it was that

10:41

many. I want to say we had like 50,000 of them. It

10:44

was a lot. Seems extreme. No.

10:46

Plastic. I don't know why. I

10:49

know why. I think someone

10:53

who used to work here really liked action figures like

10:55

that and thought they would do well. And

10:57

I think everybody else in the company was like, no. They're not

10:59

going to do well. Yeah. And we ended up with 50,000 of

11:02

them. And I

11:04

see photos of them in like Goodwill all

11:06

the time. Now it's like crates of them. Someday

11:09

they're going to be worth so much money. No. I'm going

11:11

to take the laser team action figures. What's that X-Box? Is

11:14

that a significant one or just an original one?

11:16

I don't know. The significant ones had silver Sharpie

11:18

written on the front. Yeah. Explaining what they were.

11:20

It's probably just a random one. Do you ever

11:23

think about how you were hired not to be an achievement

11:25

hunter? Yeah. I

11:27

was hired for this. And you just put

11:29

your stuff in achievement hunter? Well, we ended this one

11:31

the week. I

11:34

needed something to fill my time with. Yeah, I just

11:36

walked in there and waited for

11:38

one of the interns to leave. And then I stole his

11:40

desk. And

11:42

that's where I remained. Did you start

11:46

with your desk chair as the toilet?

11:48

No. It got replaced at some

11:50

point with the toilet. And I tried to use it. But it

11:53

really makes you want to shit all day. Like

11:55

something about just your anus being

11:57

slightly lower than the rest of your body. It

11:59

means you're in. You're ready for shitting. It's just

12:01

like memory for your body. Yeah, like oh, okay. We're

12:03

gonna do this All right Do you guys ever have

12:05

that thing that happens? Where you're out for

12:07

a walk or something like that and then when you're starting to

12:09

get closer to home Like Bluetooth of

12:12

your ass connects to the toilet at home. You're

12:14

just like I need to shit right now. Oh,

12:16

this is a jog The

12:20

Bluetooth of your definitely after

12:22

like traveling When

12:24

you come back home, you're like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna

12:26

gonna destroy my own toilet here Dude,

12:29

do you have a favorite toilet in your

12:31

house? Do you have

12:33

one that you reserve for like a nice shit and one that

12:35

you did reserve for destroying? No,

12:37

the same one. Okay. Do they have bidets? No,

12:40

I've been meaning to put one on though,

12:43

so Normally you're

12:45

supposed to like disconnect the water What

12:48

the little pipe that goes into your tank and

12:50

that's where you put like the bidet feed But

12:52

on my toilet that part is covered It's like

12:55

the way it's designed is which I would have to plug the

12:57

bidet in on the supply side of

12:59

the of That and I

13:01

guess it's like a slightly different size or something

13:03

or not. So you need an adapter I'm not

13:05

gonna bother you seen those things that you can

13:08

put in a pond and it's got a little

13:10

solar panel and it just Starts like jetting water

13:12

up this little solar powered pump.

13:14

This is like a solar bidet You

13:16

could just chuck one in the water and then just shine a light on

13:19

it. It would just be a battery.

13:21

What that's real Well, I

13:23

don't think it would work that You

13:25

have outdoor one. It doesn't work. It's solar power not

13:27

moon power Do you have

13:29

a favorite toilet? I

13:32

like the toilet in my office Because it's the

13:34

only one that's used just by me. I've

13:36

only ever I Have

13:38

been to your place. Mm-hmm And

13:41

I've used your guest toilet

13:44

That room is the coldest room I've

13:46

ever been in in my life unless it's winter and

13:49

he is on and then it's a sauna Which I

13:51

don't know if I've ever been to your house in

13:53

the winter. I think only summertime Why don't you close

13:55

the vent in there then? Doesn't

14:01

that like mess with the rest of the AC though? If

14:03

you have vents closed? I mean if you

14:05

close too many of them, yeah, but... What if you close all

14:07

your vents? I think that's bad for the AC. It has to

14:10

explode. Where does the air come out? Does

14:12

it just blow the side out of one of the tubes? It comes

14:14

out of the... You

14:16

know, that's not a perfect airtight seal, it

14:18

comes out of the sides and everything, but

14:21

it would probably whistle really loudly. Yeah. Have

14:24

your vents disconnected from the server recently?

14:26

Dude, it's the dumbest thing. So I

14:29

have vents you can control

14:31

via like an app on your phone. That's cool.

14:34

It's really neat because you know it's like, oh

14:36

I know this room's gonna get hot or cold

14:38

so I can open or close the vents and

14:40

redirect the airflow. You would think that you could

14:42

just directly connect to the vents and control them,

14:45

but no. I guess there's like

14:47

a server or something that they... on

14:49

the backend that they connect to and then your app

14:51

connects to and controls them. So when the server goes

14:53

down, your app is worthless. You

14:56

can't do it. Yeah, and it did. It's

14:58

happened to me... It

15:00

happens about once a year. And

15:02

the last time was a couple months

15:04

ago and sometimes it'll go... Like sometimes it goes down

15:06

for like a day and I'm like, I'll just check again

15:08

in a day and it'll be fine. Yeah. This most recent

15:10

time, it would like... I kept checking, it kept checking, it was like

15:13

a week and I was like, it's still not working. So

15:15

like I emailed support and they're like, hey, you know,

15:17

what's going on? And then like a week later

15:19

they wrote back and they're like, yeah, the server's fine, I don't know what's going

15:21

on with you. So then like they

15:24

were like, oh, we'll look into it, send us the serial number. They

15:27

asked for like something. So I send it to them and

15:29

then like two weeks later they're like, oh yeah, there was

15:31

a problem. We fixed it. So all told,

15:33

just because it's so long communicating with them, it was

15:35

like six weeks of like them not

15:37

working. Can you just manually move them? Yeah. So

15:40

then the problem is that they're high, so I have to get

15:42

like a little ladder. I've got to get the ladder out. I've

15:44

got to adjust them. Jesus. It's a real

15:47

pain in the ass for what should be a

15:49

simple solution. Have you guys ever had issues like that

15:51

where like there are certain aspects in your

15:53

home that are like smart? But

15:55

if the internet goes down or the power's out, it like completely

15:57

fucks you over. Yeah, I hate that.

16:00

Well Yeah, my

16:02

toilet You can't buy

16:04

your toilet. My toto one is powered The

16:07

flush is powered so I can't flush it I

16:09

can't flush all the shit away there might be a map I might

16:12

have to like pry open a panel and like release a manual you

16:14

can probably Fill the bowl with

16:16

water and it'll flush on its own. It's still

16:18

a toilet, right? No, it's like a whole thing

16:21

It's like the whole toilet is the toto Opens

16:24

yeah, just like that. Yeah The

16:26

way the way a toilet flushes is you

16:28

just fill the bowl water and then it

16:31

gets to a point where the pressure just

16:33

Makes it go down the pipe Yeah,

16:36

like if you take a bucket of water

16:38

and go pour it into the toilet it flushes can we

16:40

do this now? Can we I want to test this out?

16:42

We don't have a remote camera anything. We have a bucket

16:49

So yeah, so this toilet I

16:51

think it's similar to yours is that like I also got a

16:53

toilet as a gift or something I got I got me

16:55

like a taxi attached yet as

16:57

a gift from an ex-boyfriend the toilet

17:01

Opens when I walk up to it, and this is terrible

17:03

for any other toilet use because this is the only toilet

17:05

I have it over. I walk up to a opens I

17:08

Sit down I do a little tinkle and

17:10

I get up and it closes and flushes Do

17:13

I have to wash my hands? Well,

17:15

it doesn't hurt to why? Why

17:18

doesn't it hurt to? What

17:20

why doesn't it have to my hands now right

17:22

it doesn't I Don't

17:24

know you okay good deal because

17:27

you're not touching anything So

17:30

oh, this is how you flush your toilet with a bucket Pour

17:36

water pressure What?

17:39

I've filled toilets with water before for other

17:42

purposes don't ask me why and it didn't

17:44

flush You have to get you have to

17:46

get to like a certain point Like you know how in the back

17:48

of the toilet it like goes down and there's like that s Yeah,

17:51

it's because there's water up to a certain point and then

17:53

when the water in the bowl gets so high it pushes

17:55

down And forces it out See this

17:57

is why I've missed the arty podcast last year is

18:00

learning very little important

18:03

facts from Gus. Just pour water in the bowl. You're

18:05

fine. I don't know if that'll work in mine, because

18:07

there's no tank. But it's...

18:10

You should have. There's no... Every toilet

18:12

works like that. There's no, like,

18:14

there's no cistern. There's no,

18:16

like, storage of water. Right, because it probably brings

18:18

it in on demand when you hit flush. Where

18:20

does it bring the water from? The

18:23

pipe. Right. But

18:25

it's using a pump to... It brings what in? What? Exactly.

18:28

What do you put in the bucket? Yeah.

18:31

All right, so I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna fill my toilet

18:34

with water. And if it overflows, I get 20 bucks.

18:37

You can build Barbara. Wait,

18:39

where did I come? Just stop it before it overflows. Well,

18:41

I don't know if it's gonna flush or overflow. If you

18:44

get to a point where it's about to overflow, you know

18:46

not to do it. Right, but then

18:48

when I flush and it pumps water in

18:50

to flush it, is it then gonna overflow? I

18:53

might pass the point of no return here. I

18:55

don't know. I can't imagine

18:57

a toilet that doesn't work that way.

18:59

Why don't you both come over and

19:01

we'll do it in my...but you have to do it. It

19:04

all depends. So that you feel some of

19:06

the guilt. All right, and then I'll just walk out

19:08

when it floods your bathroom. Like, oh, that dude, sorry

19:10

dude, that sucks. I

19:13

am gonna test that when I get home. It'll work.

19:15

It'll absolutely work. Science experiment. That's

19:18

why normally your

19:20

toilet will flush as long as you have water. The

19:23

thing that I'm dealing with sometimes is if our internet ever

19:25

goes out in the middle of the night, we

19:28

always have our Alexa playing like

19:30

a sound, like rainstorms or... Like

19:32

a white noise or something. Some type of

19:35

noise like that. And sometimes

19:37

it'll stop if the internet goes out. And

19:39

then I'll be like, Alexa, like

19:42

play rain sounds to like get it to go.

19:44

I think it just stopped and then she'll... Sorry,

19:46

I'm having trouble connecting to the internet right now.

19:49

It can't just download like a 20 megabyte

19:51

rain sound file and just play it local.

19:54

Also like, you know how if you

19:56

whisper to the Alexa, it's supposed to whisper back to you?

19:59

She doesn't do that well. on the internet. That was

20:01

for the error messages? Nope. You think

20:03

that would be like a local setting? The

20:06

annoying one I have is that if

20:08

this used to be the case, then they fixed

20:11

it, but it started happening again. Those hue light

20:13

bulbs, which are Wi-Fi connected, it used

20:15

to be when the power went out when it came back

20:17

on, they would come back on full brightness, but then they

20:19

software updated it to where it would

20:21

revert to the last state. So if it was off, it would

20:23

revert to off. But for some reason, my

20:26

power went out briefly through some of the storms we

20:28

had the other night and every light in my house

20:30

came back on like full intensity brightness like at 3.30

20:32

in the morning. It's like watching Dune 2. I haven't

20:34

seen it yet, but I imagine it's just... There's

20:37

a lot of scenes that are very dark and then

20:39

it immediately cuts to a scene that's like out in

20:41

the desert and you're like... Listen, yeah, or like shot

20:43

infrared, so it's just bright white. Yeah,

20:45

that's a great movie though. Dune was

20:47

so fucking boring, I cannot bring myself

20:50

to watch Dune 2. Second one's not boring. I also

20:52

thought the first one was boring, second one's not boring.

20:54

Okay, it's like the first one was so boring, I

20:56

appreciate it. I acknowledge

20:58

it's a well-made movie. It looks gorgeous, it's beautiful,

21:01

but it's a fucking snoozer. So I'm just gonna

21:03

wait till I can stream it at home. Now

21:05

that they're both out, I would definitely split the

21:07

movies in a different spot. Like

21:09

the second movie is crammed. So

21:11

much happening in it. The first one

21:14

could have done with some of that. Blinks so

21:16

mad at me when I say I didn't like it or

21:18

that I'm waiting to stream it at home. Well

21:20

I think also because like I'm

21:23

usually not one of those people to say this, but it is

21:25

really good in the theater. Seeing

21:29

it in all its glory is pretty fun. Do

21:31

you have a sick home set up there? It's

21:34

alright, it's alright. Atlays and surround sound and stuff.

21:37

Yeah, I mean it's nice. I'm sure it'll be.

21:39

Yeah, it just is fine on yours. But

21:42

my TV started doing this thing where it's got like dark

21:44

spots on it. Oh no. It is annoying

21:46

the shit out of me. At first it was like one

21:48

little dark spot, I was like, huh, that's

21:50

weird. Is it OLED? No.

21:52

Do you just even see the TV? I thought the

21:54

backlight's going out somewhere. Yeah. And then now it's like,

21:57

there's like four of them. And it's really... How

21:59

long have you had it? I think I've had it for three

22:01

years. You

22:03

have TV problems a lot. Didn't you have a problem with the last one?

22:05

I did. It got replaced? Yes. What

22:08

are you guys doing on your TV? This is a replacement. Nothing. Is

22:11

it on all the time? I mean, it's on

22:13

a lot. Yeah. So yeah, it's

22:16

got problems. I'm afraid it's gonna die like the

22:18

other one did here pretty soon. I need to

22:20

know if you've watched Shogun yet. No, I'll probably wait

22:22

till it's all out and then maybe just binge it all at

22:24

once. Here, have you watched it? No. Oh,

22:26

okay. Shogun is a phenomenal

22:28

show. It's on Hulu. Highly recommend it to

22:30

anybody watching. I

22:32

don't want to spoil anything about it. Just go in blind.

22:35

It was like a novel from the 70s. I remember

22:37

seeing the novel like when I was a little kid

22:40

and thinking that it looked boring. Yeah. Someone

22:42

described it as if Game of Thrones

22:44

only followed one family. But

22:48

obviously very different storylines. Mind

22:51

you, my little kid thought about it

22:53

being boring was because of the fact that it was like

22:55

super thick. And as a kid, you're like,

22:57

oh, there's no way I'm gonna ever read something like that. My

23:00

teacher once gave me the three musketeers to read and

23:03

I just saw the size of it. I don't think it

23:05

was that big, but it was just like clearly the biggest

23:07

book I've ever read. So you had Candy Barnstead? And

23:09

I just never opened it. So I'm just

23:11

not gonna do that. Did you have to do a book report? I

23:14

did do a book report on of Mice and Men, but

23:17

I don't think that was very long. Yeah. I

23:20

had, legit question, how

23:22

do teachers assign homework

23:25

and projects nowadays with the internet

23:27

and AI being so prevalent in

23:29

everything? People could just use it

23:33

so willy-nilly these days to complete stuff

23:35

and not actually be learning anything. Yeah,

23:37

but wouldn't you be worried that you'd

23:39

finish school dumb as shit? I

23:42

would be, but would the... Yeah, when

23:44

I was a kid, I wouldn't have worried about it. I'd be like, stop, fuck

23:46

it, I don't wanna do this shit. I just wanna get through this. I'm

23:49

just suffering to be done with it. I think about that a

23:51

lot. It

23:53

could explain a lot of the shit I read online

23:55

where everything's misspelled and like, what

23:57

is this person trying to say? Apparently. problem.

24:00

Yeah. Just not learning how to read.

24:02

I'm having a problem with my computer

24:04

where on

24:07

my Windows desktop, every

24:09

time I restart the computer, all my icons are in

24:11

different places. And some of them

24:13

are like just blank white squares. And it

24:15

happens on every computer I own.

24:18

Does it happen to everyone? Is Windows just a piece

24:21

of, is the desktop just a piece of broken shit?

24:23

Or is everything where you left it every time you

24:25

turn it on? Everything's where I left it every time

24:27

I turn it on. Yeah. And all your

24:29

icons are the icon and not just a blank white

24:32

square. Yeah. You

24:34

got some problems, dude. Maybe it's your Microsoft account

24:36

or something. Someone's messing with you. It

24:39

goes in every morning. Is everything

24:41

in quotes? It's so annoying too because

24:43

I just put, that's

24:45

a real throwback. I

24:48

put everything on the desktop, like all my games, just

24:51

so that they're like the first thing I can click. I'm

24:53

just always in a different spot. And this is

24:56

me, Ryle. Did you play Baldur's Gate speaking

24:58

again? No. You did it.

25:00

Yeah, I finished it. It's good. We still haven't

25:02

finished it. There's a lot to it. Yeah,

25:04

it's taking a break from it. I remember like playing

25:06

it and you're like, Oh my God, the first act

25:08

takes forever. And then every

25:11

subsequent act is longer. It's like, Oh, nevermind. That was

25:13

nothing. I got to like the final act. I thought,

25:15

Oh, I'm almost done with the game. That was a

25:17

long sort of all. It was like, I probably spent

25:19

half my time in the game in the final act.

25:21

Jesus. I don't know what it is about games at

25:23

the moment, but I can't bring myself to play a

25:25

new game. I just want to

25:27

play old games. Like I'm playing GTA four right now

25:29

in eight K it's

25:31

amazing. I'm playing for an

25:34

eight K playing New Vegas. I

25:36

can't bring myself to play a

25:39

new game. I don't know why this like, this

25:41

is what has come out. I haven't played it.

25:43

I'm just like, I want familiarity for some reason.

25:45

I'm here laughing, but I'm back home playing the

25:47

sims. I

25:49

was looking at my steam deck the other day and I was like, a

25:52

couple of weeks ago at this point, I guess I was like, I

25:54

could look for a new game or I could

25:56

play New Vegas on the steam deck. I haven't done that. Yeah,

25:58

I think that's what's doing. for me is that there is,

26:01

for me, new ways to play old games. I can

26:03

either play them on an 8K

26:05

TV or on a Steam Deck, and

26:07

they're both in scenarios I've never touched

26:09

before. It's exciting. There was a... I

26:13

started playing New Vegas because there was a story that came

26:15

out. I just looked it up. It was in February, February

26:17

19th. There was a story that

26:19

came out about New Vegas that made me think about it

26:21

and want to play it again. I'm going to read the

26:24

headline to you. A

26:27

mod that adds Fred Durst to Fallout New

26:29

Vegas. Thought to be Lost Media has been

26:31

found. And I was like, oh, that would

26:33

be cool to play New Vegas again. I

26:35

didn't install the mod, but you can install

26:38

this mod to have Fred Durst in Fallout

26:40

New Vegas. What

26:43

on Earth? It's not voiced by him,

26:45

though. No, it's some dumbass mod.

26:47

What game did you guys have a cameo in? Or

26:50

was it Jeff? Jeff and Jack? Jeff and Jack were

26:52

in Red Dead. Red Dead Red Dead. You were in Halo.

26:54

I was in Halo. I was in Trials.

26:57

Oh, that's cool. And Worms. Worms,

27:00

sir. WMD? What

27:03

are you laughing at? God

27:05

damn, what are you laughing at? Just like Jeff

27:07

and Jack were in Red Dead. Gus

27:10

was in Halo. I was in Worms. Worms

27:13

was a great game. I love that

27:15

game. Some of my

27:17

favorite loved plays you guys did was in the Worms.

27:20

I feel like the Worms series has been around forever.

27:22

It's a lot of time. Yeah,

27:24

I got everyone to play Worms. I

27:26

think the week after I started. That's one where

27:29

you would name them all, right? Yeah. Worm

27:31

names are... Well,

27:33

naming my Worms is the most fun I have in my life. The

27:35

first one came out in 95. Was

27:38

it on PC or PlayStation? I remember

27:40

playing a really shitty PlayStation

27:43

1 port, I think. I think this

27:45

was PC. The Worms are like

27:48

four pixels. There

27:50

were PC games in 95? No,

27:53

it was rough going. Oh, Windows 95. That's

27:55

like when things made the big turn. Well, that was... Because

27:58

I remember as a kid playing like... putt

28:01

putt and like

28:03

all those games where it was like a menu

28:06

on the desktop that you just

28:08

only have games and nothing else. I

28:11

didn't realize worms was that old. Jesus

28:13

Christ. In the pre Windows 95 days

28:15

like when I was a teenager and like on Windows

28:17

3.1 there were some games

28:19

that if I wanted to play I had to

28:21

have a special boot disk for my computer for

28:23

them. It's like the

28:25

boot disk would tell the computer to

28:28

use RAM differently. It's like I'm not gonna use Windows

28:30

so I don't need my RAM allocated this way. I

28:32

need my RAM allocated this way because I'm gonna play

28:34

a game. If you'd boot off of like a disk

28:36

then I could play like X-Wing

28:38

or whatever. And do you have to do

28:40

it that way? Yes because if I tried to play it the other

28:43

way like half the way it would be gone. Well no it wouldn't

28:45

even launch. Because you try to launch

28:47

it in DOS and it would be like not enough

28:49

EMS RAM to launch this game. I

28:51

remember speaking of worms they had

28:54

those like CG little cutscenes and

28:56

I remember playing really

28:58

like Driver 2 on PlayStation 1. I remember

29:01

the game was like shit just like

29:03

all really polygon and little jank

29:06

looking. But the cutscenes looked amazing because they

29:08

were all pre-rendered. I just remember thinking wow

29:11

I can't wait for games to actually look

29:13

like that. And then we've totally passed

29:15

that. I didn't even know it. Those

29:18

cutscenes look like shit now. My favorite

29:20

is like when people compare the Toy

29:22

Story characters from

29:24

Kingdom Hearts to like the first couple of

29:26

Toy Story movies. And it's like the ones

29:29

being rendered in real time. And Kingdom Hearts

29:31

look better than the ones that were pre-rendered

29:33

in the Pixar films. Going

29:35

back to those first Toy Story movies you're like god this

29:37

looks like shit. But at the time it was mind

29:40

boggling. Early

29:42

CG is really funny. I just watched The Abyss for

29:44

the first time because it came out in 4K. Oh

29:46

it's out? Yeah. So it's True Lies

29:48

and Aliens all came out in 4K. Oh that's right you

29:50

posted about that. I need to get those. Did you

29:52

see the original Dune? Oh

29:55

with Kyle Mahler. Exactly.

29:57

I never thought. There's

30:00

a scene in Dune where they have these, I

30:02

guess, shields on in

30:04

the second movie, where they're fighting and they have like,

30:07

it's like a glistening thing that you could see. They have this

30:10

in the first movie. Okay,

30:12

yeah, I just have forgotten everything about the first movie because

30:14

it was so boring. Yeah, I thought so.

30:16

But the original Dune, you should look up

30:19

what those shields look like. What

30:21

year was that movie? It was like

30:23

80- Eighty-four? Was it 80? Wow.

30:27

Wow. It looked up like the, when

30:29

they're fighting, what the body shields

30:31

look like. It

30:33

is clearly like frame by frame. It

30:37

looks like, I don't

30:40

know how to describe it, it just looks like shit. I

30:43

don't know, I've not been watching that because I was right

30:45

it would spoil the second movie because I don't know where

30:47

that, but I really want to see the David Lynch one.

30:50

Is it like the- Yeah.

30:52

Yeah. Oh my god. It looks

30:55

like a- It looks like a chart. It

30:57

looks like a render error or

30:59

something. Yeah, it looks like I haven't

31:02

downloaded the text as a D-mod. Yeah,

31:05

it's Minecraft, guys. It's so bad. That's

31:07

so cool, it's a bunch of steam.

31:12

It does look like TARDIS. Yeah, it

31:14

does. Yeah, that's

31:16

not good. I

31:19

saw Ex Machina for the first time. Oh,

31:22

it's a good movie. Have you guys seen that? Yeah. I was

31:24

trying to remember when that came out. I want to say it

31:26

was like- The teens?

31:28

16 or 17 would be my guess. So it's not that

31:30

old. What do I mean? Yeah.

31:34

Wow, 10 years ago. Fuck.

31:37

God. Good movie. For those

31:39

of you like me who haven't seen Ex Machina, very-

31:41

I saw that at Violet Crown. Yeah, it was really

31:43

good. Very also

31:47

true to form of the way things are now,

31:49

a little bit too real. Yeah.

31:53

I think that was Alex Garland, I think, who

31:56

directed that one, if I remember right. Yeah,

31:59

he makes some- Good some good movies. I

32:01

feel like I haven't been to the theater in quite

32:03

a while I can't even think what the last one

32:05

guys the last new movie I saw in the theater

32:07

was might have been like Mission Impossible last summer Oh,

32:10

wow, I surprisingly had been going to the the Bob

32:12

Bullock IMAX for a few

32:14

movies like re-releases of stuff Saw

32:17

Ex Machina there and then saw

32:20

interstellar play there, which was Like

32:23

newfound love for that movie. I think that's like probably

32:25

my top five movies at this point It's just so

32:27

good. Yeah, we went on the same day Different

32:30

times though, right? Yeah, we were all gonna go at the same

32:33

time, but then I couldn't make

32:35

it So I went early I saw

32:37

it right before and as I was coming out you were walking in

32:42

Like now we just saw it Yeah,

32:45

it was I think the first time I saw interstellar I was

32:47

in the front row of the IMAX And

32:50

the scene when they went into the black hole like melted

32:52

my eyes Down my face.

32:54

So it's nice to see it from a little bit further back That

32:57

place still doesn't do reserve seating and

32:59

that's it. Yeah, that's not like I don't want

33:01

to queue up. Yeah heat I didn't

33:03

like that either. It's stressful. They also have like no

33:06

Actual food they have like candy and

33:08

popcorn, which is was not a movie

33:10

theater You spoiled I think I've just gotten

33:13

spoiled but like even an AMC has like hot

33:15

dogs or nachos or like, you know You don't

33:17

want a movie say a hot dog. Do you

33:19

that's the best kind of hot dog I

33:21

had a Costco hot dog the other day for the first time Good

33:24

yeah, it's like it was a buck 50. It was

33:26

a hot dog and a soda I was like, I

33:28

don't even want the hot dog. Did you need a

33:30

membership to get that? They

33:33

didn't check it for it I walked in like the exit and

33:35

just walked straight to the hot dog thing

33:37

You didn't even talk to anyone. It's like a tablet. It's like

33:39

have you seen that emergency hot dog thing? No

33:42

It's like a little test tube looking thing with water

33:44

and a hot dog inside and you can press the

33:47

thing that starts a chemical reaction to boil the water

33:49

and cook the hot dog I

33:53

Want it I want to get one you guys should uh, see

33:56

if you could keep DHD hot

33:58

dogs delicious hot dogs. What

34:01

was it? Was it delicious hot

34:03

dogs? The HD? Delicious hot dogs,

34:05

hot dogs. Yeah. It

34:08

looks like a vial. Hot

34:10

dogs. And

34:13

then it cooks your dog. That's... Stupid.

34:16

Very unappetizing. I don't know if it's a real

34:18

thing. For dinner use only? I don't think this

34:20

is real. Or if someone made it. It's like

34:22

a funny joke. For

34:24

dinner use only might be the death giveaway. I

34:27

mean it looks like it would work. Yeah.

34:29

I mean hot water. You just really need to boil them.

34:32

See that? What situation are

34:34

you in where you need an emergency hot dog though?

34:36

Walking? Can't be bothered to stop and camp and boil

34:38

water and that? If

34:40

you're just hiking and you want a dog on the go and

34:42

you've got a bun. So it's a camping hot dog. It's not

34:44

an emergency hot dog. Well if you're starving

34:46

to death it's going to be an emergency. I don't

34:48

think you're going to care if it's hot or not. You

34:51

want to see a cold soggy dog? Wait.

34:55

You'll eat it. You

34:58

guys haven't been camping have you? Yeah. Why are you

35:00

still camping? You should be camping a lot when I was a kid. I've camped.

35:02

It's not for me anymore. No. Yeah.

35:06

You get to an age where you're like, I need

35:08

something between me and the ground. Yeah. Just a little

35:11

bit. A little padding. Why?

35:13

Are you a big camper? No.

35:15

But I'm like would it be fun to maybe do that

35:17

more? Just like be out in nature more?

35:19

I think. I don't want to be. I'm

35:21

playing off a hunt here Barbara. You

35:24

might have a little free time coming up. I

35:26

think so. You might be a little more free if

35:28

you want to go camping. I keep

35:30

making jokes about that because people have been like, oh we

35:33

should get lunch or something. Or like grab coffee and I'm

35:35

like, I'll have a lot of free time very soon. It's

35:38

been hectic. Yeah. The

35:40

last couple of weeks. Just wrapping

35:42

things up. Yeah. I feel like people are

35:44

still working really hot. Everyone's trying to finish,

35:46

get to a point where they're

35:49

happy with stuff being done. Yeah. I'm

35:51

really grateful that we did have the

35:53

two months. It would have

35:55

sucked if it was just like instant. I've heard of

35:57

places that yeah, they've gotten shut down. Like the doors are

35:59

locked. blocked that day. Most places are like

36:01

that. Yeah. And I think

36:04

it's good that we're able

36:06

to try to figure out like a way to end

36:09

things and land it. Yeah, definitely.

36:11

Have you stolen anything? Yeah, I stole a

36:13

ton of stuff. Yeah, I really did. I

36:16

loaded up my baseball card suitcase, and I was

36:18

like, eh, it's just baseball cards. I

36:20

was talking to Michael about it. And he's like, there's

36:23

just so much stuff at the office that's legitimately

36:25

just mine. Yeah. That like, I don't want to

36:27

be taking it out of the building and someone thinking

36:29

that I'm stealing something, when it's just my stuff that

36:31

I've brought. Yeah, like I think I said it earlier,

36:33

that hamster painting, that's mine. I bought that on South

36:35

Kong. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's

36:38

an old one. I look around, and there is

36:40

a ton of stuff that's mine. This little plane

36:42

is mine. That Golugas is not mine. That

36:45

plane over there is mine. That's your

36:47

baby. No, no. Your son. Get the fuck out of here.

36:49

Yeah. Yeah,

36:52

there are a lot of things that is just like stuff

36:54

that I bought over the years. And it's like,

36:56

yeah, I really don't need that. It's fine

36:58

if that gets, if someone

37:00

else takes that, or if that finds

37:03

a new home or a new life somewhere else. I had

37:05

someone ask me, someone who I

37:07

met in town who was aware of Ruchitcith and

37:09

stuff like that. And they're like,

37:11

so I heard the news about Ruchitcith. So

37:14

does that mean there's going to be no RTX this year? And

37:18

they were legitimately asking you that. And

37:20

I was like, well, there wasn't going

37:22

to be anyways, but now definitely not. I

37:25

think I'm being told we have a surprise

37:27

guest who just dropped in. Patrick!

37:32

Hey, guys. Hey. Hey. So

37:36

true story, when I first started here,

37:39

one of the first jobs I had,

37:41

I got hired for this podcast. I

37:43

did. And so one of the

37:45

first jobs I had when Kara was

37:47

training me, which is a

37:49

weird sentence to say. I know, right? I know.

37:53

Was that I had to go buy the

37:55

beer for the podcast every Monday. Karen,

37:57

Patrick on a beer run. And

38:00

we had to put the set together as

38:02

well. You were telling a guy more experience

38:04

than everyone, right? You've done all these operations

38:06

before. Press your keyboard like a television, like

38:09

a broadcast background. Yeah, and I was buying

38:11

beer, and I was just telling the guys

38:13

that every Monday she would test me on

38:15

how I put the set together and if

38:17

I put everything in the right place and

38:20

just write. Wow. So very

38:22

detailed and I appreciate her for that.

38:25

But what y'all didn't know is

38:27

that like, after every show

38:29

we would collect all the bottle caps from the

38:31

beers. Oh my gosh. And I would

38:34

just throw them in a bin. And

38:37

when we moved here to stage five, I found

38:39

the bin and bottle caps. And so I kept

38:42

keeping bottle caps. And

38:44

so I made a memento for each of you.

38:46

Oh my God. That had bottle caps from back

38:48

at 636. What's

38:51

next? Because I remember, I

38:54

remember Cara telling me very distinctly, Gavin

38:57

and Barbara like Stella Artois,

39:01

Gus is a Shiner person, and so

39:03

is Bernie. And Gus would take

39:06

anything. That was a car. Those Secchis

39:08

or anything like that. But anyway, I made one

39:10

of these for each of you. I'd

39:13

forgotten I had these until fall back. And then

39:15

I thought, well, I'll make something with them. That's

39:17

so cool. But I have one for each one

39:19

of you. Thank you, Pat. Oh my God. I'm

39:22

putting that up in my office. That is so

39:24

cool. Thank you. And there were

39:26

also beers that spilled all over. Thank you so

39:28

much. Yeah, I probably spilled all of these. Thank

39:30

you. Oh my God. Oh wow. Oh,

39:33

this is the Shiner Ruby Red. That's so good. How

39:35

many years was the podcast? We

39:38

started late 08, so 15 and a half, almost 16

39:40

years. 16 and a half.

39:42

Oh cool. Oh yeah. Wait, why would 16? Well

39:45

done, thank you, Patrick. It was awesome. This

39:47

is really cool. Thank you. Wow. I

39:50

genuinely love this. Oh, it's even the 20 years one. That's

39:53

cool. Well, what's it like at the end of the company being

39:57

just everyone's favorite person to work for?

39:59

Yeah. Yeah, legit.

40:03

A very nice feeling because What's

40:08

weird is that when I came into

40:10

the company you guys were so tight already

40:13

that it was really like It

40:16

was really hard to like feel

40:18

like am I gonna fit in here

40:21

because everybody was just on the

40:23

same wavelength And trying to

40:25

get into that same wavelength was difficult

40:27

sometimes, you know but

40:30

like I remember Lindsay

40:32

was one of the first people who was really sweet

40:34

to me and and Brandon

40:37

Barmahini would always try to you know, include

40:40

me in things and stuff like that And

40:42

so I remember it was actually Kyle who

40:45

invited me to a movie we're all going

40:47

together with and I sat next to Monty

40:52

and We

40:55

sat there we didn't know each other and we sat there the

40:57

whole time didn't say a single But

41:04

Yeah, it was just I loved working on

41:06

the show every you know every

41:08

Monday And it was just so funny that

41:10

people would recognize me just from

41:12

my laughter Mm-hmm from and I remember

41:14

Gus saying that like if I

41:16

made Patrick laugh, then I know I'm yeah I made a

41:18

good joke like legitimately though That

41:20

was like one of the driving factors for trying

41:22

to be funny here. Yeah. Yeah, I think there

41:25

were different levels of laughter Like I feel like

41:27

Nick Schwartz you could get pretty A

41:30

really good one. Yeah. Yeah, it's like the free space

41:36

Then like the other difficulty is like

41:38

how Socially awkward

41:41

I am. I don't want to project on

41:43

anybody else. I don't remember when Lindsay first

41:45

started No one ever

41:47

introduced me to them. So if

41:50

I was in a room and Lindsay walked in I would

41:52

walk out Or

41:55

like if I saw Lindsay walking down

41:57

the hall I would turn around and go the other way or like

42:00

Find a different room to go into just cuz I

42:02

was like I don't know this person and I don't

42:04

know what to say Do you do that with anyone

42:06

now? No, no, no It's like

42:08

this is just super awkward. Yeah. No,

42:10

I remember when when I interviewed like

42:12

you didn't show me the studio Like

42:14

the only thing I ever saw was a conference room.

42:17

Well, I yeah, cuz I think it was like it

42:20

was fucked up Like

42:22

it was all the shambles. Did we just

42:24

not have well, we had the annex at

42:26

that point when when Patrick came on Yeah,

42:28

Fisher. I gave you a photo of the

42:30

six or six. It's uh, it's the

42:33

Set with the concrete in front of it.

42:35

Oh, yeah pull up that picture. That'd be cool But

42:39

yeah, yeah, that was that was

42:42

That was a garage that

42:44

was in between a welder and a plumber

42:50

And I think the welder went away

42:52

and it became like a glass water

42:54

pipe Place if I

42:56

remember right. Yeah And

42:59

it's it was really shitty because nothing

43:02

worked. Yep There

43:04

was no climate control. It was cold as hell

43:06

in the winter in the winter It was loud

43:08

when it was rain it would rain. Yeah, you'd

43:10

have to stop because it would be other be

43:12

leaks and stuff and Yeah,

43:16

and whenever we wanted we had a

43:18

computer to show images On

43:22

like in stream so we could we could call

43:24

it up But it was so

43:26

rigged There was like a 10-step paper for how to

43:28

connect the laptop to the system And if you didn't

43:30

follow each step correctly No signal would come through and

43:32

if you remember that like I had to cut out

43:34

a piece of paper and I put it with The

43:36

laptop off to the side of the set and I

43:38

was like these are the ten steps to make sure

43:41

that we have images Available for

43:43

the podcast. Yeah. Yeah. I remember

43:46

Yeah, I remember the laptop that used to be behind Bernie's

43:50

chair. Yeah, and if we

43:52

lost connection I we'd have to sneak I'd have

43:54

to crawl on my hands and knees and Brandon

43:57

had showed me a very distinct way

43:59

of how to unplug and then

44:01

count to 10 and then replug it and I

44:04

had to do everything in a certain order. It

44:07

was so bad. Yeah it was that's why you didn't see

44:13

it because I want this guy to work here.

44:15

I want it to be like no this is

44:18

too much. Michael

44:22

still does. It

44:28

is crazy to think about that because like obviously doing

44:30

the RT podcast for this long.

44:32

To me it's like

44:34

obviously there's a certain group of people who we

44:36

did it with a lot but I also think

44:38

of the podcast like synonymously with you Patrick and

44:40

like your time here and like

44:42

the whole crew and everyone involved in making

44:44

the show like it is they go

44:47

hand in hand of the

44:49

joy that came with making the podcast

44:51

for that long and just like having

44:53

you guys with us and the camaraderie

44:55

of everybody and how hard you guys work to to

44:57

make it such a great show I would

44:59

just show up. I didn't even

45:01

have something to talk about. You just have to

45:03

sit here. Yeah exactly. What's going on? What's the

45:05

judge of master telling us to do? Yeah

45:09

thank you so much for this and for building all

45:13

of this and having all

45:15

of these people do such a great job.

45:17

No thank you. This is amazing.

45:22

It really was. Yeah. Can't wait for the TR

45:25

podcast. Oh

45:28

the trodcast? You idiots

45:30

gonna keep making stuff

45:32

together? We

45:34

don't know. I don't know who you're referring to Gavin. There's no

45:37

idiots here on set. It's the

45:39

same thing we keep telling everyone like we have no

45:42

idea. There's no news. We would like to.

45:44

What's funny is that we can all just

45:47

make this whatever we want if we wanted to. Yeah.

45:50

So on the

45:52

21st anniversary which

45:55

you know we're recording this the 21st anniversary which is

45:57

a couple days ago from the time we're recording this.

46:00

Um, uh,

46:02

Jordan had asked, uh,

46:05

Matt, Jeff, myself, and Bernie, if any of us wanted

46:07

to write something, to put on the, on

46:09

the website for the 21st anniversary. And I

46:12

thought nobody else was going to do it, so I wrote something.

46:14

But at the last second, Bernie wrote something, and that's what we

46:16

ended up putting out. Yeah. But, uh,

46:18

the thing that I wrote, at

46:21

the very end, I

46:23

talked about how 21 years ago, the

46:26

tools to make content were

46:28

very limited and very expensive.

46:31

There were a lot of barriers to entry, like

46:34

doing anything was very difficult. But now, like, the

46:36

tools are way cheaper, access to the

46:38

software, uh, everything, like you can do everything on your phone

46:40

now, right? Like it's all, everyone has the

46:42

power to do it in their pocket. So anyone

46:45

can do it. And I look forward to someone doing it.

46:47

I said, you know, we lasted 21 years. I think someone

46:49

watching this can do better. And I, I know that they

46:51

can. And so I'm, I look

46:54

forward to seeing, you know, whoever's on the other

46:56

side of the camera, starting their own podcast, doing

46:58

their own thing, uh, and try to beat our

47:00

high score. Cause, uh, our, our, our score was

47:02

21 years and see if you

47:04

can do better. Well, you know, what bumps me out about all this

47:06

is that meg 64 beta. Not

47:09

yet. They will. There are a couple more

47:11

years. There are a couple months behind us.

47:14

Okay. So like by late summer, they will beat us.

47:16

Okay. I talked about that in an animal a couple

47:18

of weeks ago, talked about like the longevity of, um,

47:22

content creation and you people on the internet. And

47:24

I said, I'm glad that

47:27

they're going to take our spot on the

47:30

leaderboard. If anyone, if it's going to be

47:32

anyone, I'm 100% happy that it's them. I

47:35

can finally listen to Amber. Oh yeah.

47:38

I've been saving it. Why didn't you listen to him? He's waiting for all

47:40

of them to be out. Yeah. I'm

47:42

waiting for me to not work anymore so I can

47:44

still get my fix. Oh, well, we

47:46

just recorded the last one on Monday. On

47:50

the last episode of Anma, uh,

47:52

we, a couple

47:55

of weeks ago, I mentioned how Star

47:57

Wars episode one, the Phantom Menace is re-releasing.

48:00

theaters for its 25th anniversary.

48:02

I think like May 3rd or May 4th it's gonna

48:05

be in theaters again and I said

48:08

it would be funny if we did an Anma episode

48:10

this was before when you were closing up so we did

48:12

this for the last episode if we went

48:14

down to the theater where Jeff and I camped

48:16

out for Star Wars episode one ticket and acted

48:18

like we were camping out again for for the

48:20

25th anniversary ticket so we went down and we

48:23

did the final Anma at the theater where we

48:25

camped out 25 years ago we went around to

48:27

the back I wanted to do it from the

48:29

spot where we camped but there were like some

48:31

sketchy looking cars back there I

48:34

think people might be living in

48:36

these cars so we went around to the front of

48:38

the theater recorded the final episode by the box office

48:40

yeah like a little tent or like those there's no

48:42

video or anything so we just sat down on the

48:44

benches by the front is it a rough area now

48:46

that it used to be um

48:50

no probably not just about the same

48:53

but I think back then there weren't like

48:55

back then that was a new development like now there's

48:58

houses and everything in that area back then it was

49:00

like there had been nothing there and they carved out

49:02

a little bit of like an empty lot to build

49:04

a theater did you see that collection of news clippings

49:06

of people complaining about how much

49:09

Austin has changed no feel

49:11

like from 2008 is like

49:13

ridiculous and then the one from like 1982

49:16

and then we keep going all the way back

49:18

until it was like 1912 and people like

49:20

Austin's not this is like people have just

49:23

been constantly doing that over time

49:25

even in the short time I've been here it's changed

49:27

so much well you know blows my mind is I was

49:29

looking through some old content because for the anniversary I did

49:31

like ruchy teeth trivia so I was watching through a

49:33

bunch of old stuff and like looking for things I

49:35

could have questions about and I went

49:37

to watch the immersion we

49:39

did with Mario Kart where you guys

49:42

were kind of like slip on the bananas that

49:44

was out there like in

49:46

this lot before there's

49:48

like any houses out there

49:51

there was like no other buildings I

49:53

think stage 7 was also like completely

49:55

different like

49:58

the blue starlight was out there there,

50:00

the drive-in movie theater, it was

50:02

like desolate. And now it's like

50:04

houses, schools, other buildings, other businesses. It's

50:06

just like insane how quickly that all

50:08

sprung up. It's the same thing with

50:11

that first immersion, the third person truck

50:13

driving. Yeah. Like that was over

50:15

there. Like you had to drive out the back of here.

50:17

Like it was all like that. That was here? Yeah. It

50:19

was all off road and dirt. It was an old unused

50:22

parking lot from when the old airport used to be

50:24

here. Oh my god. It's fun to

50:26

look on Google Earth, Google Maps, and watch them

50:29

like clear the site and how the runway just,

50:31

you can tell when it stopped being used because it just started getting

50:33

overgrown. The floor would

50:35

disappear and stuff. I shot a video with

50:37

Dan, like a slow-mo where I

50:40

was shooting like chocolate pudding out of

50:43

some sort of air cannon. And

50:45

I looked on the map where that was. It

50:48

ended up being, we were stood on the spot where

50:50

I eventually lived when I rented a house

50:52

over there. Really? In the exact same like

50:55

footprint of where a house eventually got built

50:57

and then I eventually lived it. What? Yeah.

51:01

That's so fucking weird. It just happened to me. Like, are

51:03

you sitting in the house? And you looked at the phone.

51:05

Honestly, I was like, on the dot. I was like, oh

51:08

my god. It was like in the house and a

51:10

little bit of the neighbor's house. Yeah, you definitely died

51:12

a few years ago. Yeah. Yep.

51:16

That's weird. Which version of

51:18

you is this? Yeah,

51:20

but like you look at the skyline and everything. Even

51:22

now, every time I feel like I drive down 35,

51:24

I'm like, what the fuck

51:26

happened? It's so different. I

51:29

remember a movie here and it was just like, I don't know,

51:31

a couple of buildings. Like nothing

51:33

even really that tall. Yeah. All of a

51:35

sudden, everything built up like crazy.

51:38

I feel like Brooks and Shawshank Redemption, like

51:40

everyone got themselves in a hurry. That's

51:44

a great movie. I want to watch that again. Shawshank Redemption.

51:46

Yeah, so good. I don't know if I've seen that

51:48

one. It's so, it's real. You don't know if you've seen it? I

51:50

don't think I have. I might have to go watch that, the Bob Bull, like

51:52

IMAX. I don't know if I've

51:55

seen Godfather. They show Shawshank

51:57

Redemption on cable television at least.

52:00

20 times a day. Probably on now. It's

52:03

one of those movies where they figured out

52:05

that the amount of money

52:07

it costs to license it to play it versus

52:09

the amount of money you can get for commercials

52:11

on it is like the greatest return. So it's

52:13

just on television constantly. Okay, I'll probably find it.

52:15

I got some free time coming up. What

52:18

was the age you originally said you were going to blow your

52:20

own head off with a shelter? I think people say I said

52:22

40. I think I said 50 initially. I think

52:24

you said 40. I think that's

52:26

what everyone remembers. I think I actually said 50 the first

52:28

time. For all the days. I got four more years. Jesus.

52:34

I'm always blown away that I'm

52:38

older now than when I

52:40

first met you. I think you were 28 maybe?

52:43

Probably. Was that? 2005

52:47

is when I first met you. You're

52:49

27? Jesus Christ. That's weird.

52:52

But yeah, we were watching.

52:55

You're well older. You know, thanks Barbara. You

52:58

passed that quite a while ago. Yeah, dude. I'll

53:00

be 35 this summer. You're

53:05

36. 35, son. You'll

53:09

be 36 in a few months. Sorry.

53:14

You're cutting that? What

53:17

year were you born? Do

53:20

you look forward to reaching the age of 78 and

53:22

thinking, man, this is like the same as living from 1900 to the year

53:24

I was born. I

53:27

had never thought about that until right now. Yeah,

53:29

I really want to live until 88 so I can say that. I

53:32

don't know how I'll say it too. They'll

53:34

be like, okay, Mr. Free, go back to your

53:36

bed now. That's

53:40

a cool milestone. What

53:42

reaching the age? Yeah. It's less

53:44

cool if you were born in 2004. I'm

53:47

bored. You did it. Yeah,

53:49

for me it'd be 89. Yeah,

53:52

tougher. I feel like mine's attainable. I

53:56

don't know about you guys. 78, yeah. I

53:58

think 88. It's so much harder than

54:00

AC. Yeah, for sure. Those are some, there's

54:03

gonna be some rough years, those eight years. Where did the

54:05

queen get, what did she get to? What was her score?

54:07

Wasn't she like 90? That's

54:09

nuts. I don't know. I feel like she was older

54:11

than that. I had a great grandmother that lived to

54:13

be over 100. Like, my great grandmother was

54:15

around when I was well an adult. And I

54:17

was like, my great grandma's still alive. That's fucking

54:19

crazy. Would you choose if the

54:21

option was available to you in a safe

54:23

and like tested way to put

54:25

your subconscious into like an AI

54:28

that looked and acted like you

54:30

essentially or like had your physical body,

54:32

but it was your mind that

54:35

would essentially live on. Wait, so it would look like this? Yeah.

54:38

Could it look better? Sure,

54:40

probably. But like to like live

54:43

forever. But I wouldn't know what it did because I would actually

54:45

be dead. Like I wouldn't just transfer.

54:47

I would be, it would be

54:49

a separate entity. Yeah, but it

54:51

would be your like consciousness or

54:54

subconscious. I would ever. Sure, why not?

54:57

Yeah. What if

54:59

you run out of power, though? You have to like plug in every night

55:01

and you're like, my battery is not as good. My battery is at 40%.

55:05

What if we didn't have the CPU power and

55:08

they couldn't put your mind in an AI

55:10

like robot body, but they could put your

55:13

mind's control over your penis into

55:15

just a penis on its own. And it would

55:18

move and act like your penis. That'd be a

55:20

real dickhead? No, just you wouldn't have a

55:22

head. Um,

55:25

no. What the fuck are

55:27

you talking about? It's like a penis on a wall. It'd

55:29

be yours. No. Why? What

55:32

is, why? The whole brain is

55:35

pretty difficult. Yeah,

55:37

but you just do penis on a wall. Penises are hard, too.

55:39

They can be. I'm

55:43

speaking. Yeah, I'm on

55:45

fire. That's the kind of humor you're going to

55:47

be missing from a couple of

55:49

weeks from now. This is why we're getting fired. Thank

55:51

you. Thank

55:54

you. It's all because of Gus. Yeah.

55:56

Yeah, I mean, 21 years of

55:58

content. 15

56:01

years of podcasting, I can't imagine

56:03

how many awful things I would have taken back.

56:06

Or like, the things that I don't think the same

56:08

way or things that I think differently about. If we

56:10

had planned this out with more time, I feel like

56:12

it would have been fun to go back and like,

56:14

retcon certain things that we said or like claimed. I

56:16

thought you were going to say cancel ourselves. Well,

56:19

don't worry, the internet's doing that for us. I

56:23

still laugh at there was like a podcast, we talked about

56:25

the word selfie, about how it was the dumbest

56:28

thing ever and how it would never pick up. In

56:31

our defense, it's a fucking dumb word and I

56:33

hate it. Anytime I hear someone say it, I

56:35

have less respect for them. People use it now as

56:37

just like, can I take a photo? A photo, yeah. Like,

56:40

can I take a selfie with you? I'm like, well then it's not. This

56:42

goes back to the whole people not learning anything

56:44

and using AI in school. That's what's wrong with

56:46

the kids nowadays. I'm still blown away. They

56:49

put the good camera on the back of the phone. Yeah,

56:53

the one on the front was dog shit for so

56:55

long. It's finally okay. But just flip them. Like, people

56:57

use the front one more. I think it's a matter

56:59

of like the amount of space in there. Could

57:02

I also put out a PSA to anyone watching this? Yeah,

57:04

go for it. Turn off HDR on

57:06

your phone when you're filming a video. Why?

57:10

Have you ever been scrolling on like TikTok or Reels

57:12

or whatever it is and one video all of a

57:14

sudden is super bright and like, that's because HDR

57:16

is on. Yeah. Turn it on. I

57:19

like HDR. What's wrong with it? It makes it... You

57:21

have to put a dynamic range. It's important.

57:23

It makes everything so bright. Well, it makes

57:26

the bright stuff bright. Makes the dark stuff

57:28

dark. Maybe your film is stuff that's too bright. No,

57:31

Jeff has it on his break

57:33

card TikTok that he makes. Let me show you. What is

57:35

Jeff saying? Daily rips?

57:37

Jeff's daily rips? Is that what it's called? Yes. I

57:40

reckon he's just being a real old cogit right now. Like,

57:43

I was just scrolling through. Okay, it's not that one.

57:46

I mean, I paid for an HDR display and I wanted

57:48

the HDR video. Look what it does. It makes like

57:50

everything else. That's great. That looks amazing.

57:53

Not when you're...it's the middle of the night and you're

57:55

like trying to fall asleep. Don't use your phone in

57:57

the middle of the night. If you're trying to fall

57:59

asleep... asleep while you're using your phone. To distract

58:02

my brain. To tell you a cool

58:04

calming story. Sorry,

58:08

I'm not connected to the internet right now. A

58:10

person I like, I like the HDR radio. Oh,

58:12

I hate it. I think it looks

58:14

good. And then I wish there

58:16

was more HDR content. Like I say, I really do

58:18

generally feel like I have an HDR display. I want

58:20

everything to be HDR on my phone. Well, it

58:22

just needs to be consistent with the brightness. Yeah,

58:25

I will say in your defense, based around

58:27

bright. That's an entire like white background. That's a

58:29

shitty way to do that. I will be

58:31

literally on my phone with the brightness all

58:33

the way down. And these fucking

58:35

things are still like blinding me. So that's

58:37

like what it would normally look like. Okay,

58:43

and it's not doing it anymore, but sometimes

58:45

it does it. I will say

58:47

the other night, you know, we

58:49

had some bad storms blow through a couple of

58:51

nights ago and it was like at two in

58:53

the morning I came through and I remember thinking,

58:55

Oh, I should check the weather to make sure

58:57

it's there's not like a tornado or hailstorm or

58:59

something tornado. So I grabbed my phone off the

59:01

nightstand and I like I unlocked it. And even

59:03

at the lowest brightness, I was like, Oh my

59:05

God, it's so bright. Yep,

59:08

that's what it feels like watching those HDR videos.

59:11

Yeah, I feel like lowest brightness isn't low

59:14

enough. And the lowest volume isn't low enough. Yeah,

59:16

like you can go down to the lowest

59:19

notch on volume and it's still too loud

59:21

for being in bed. But then you can

59:23

like tease it down mentally. So that's really

59:25

faffy and my fingers. Yeah, but no,

59:27

I agree. Sometimes if I'm on my

59:30

phone late at night, not sleeping as I

59:32

should be, and like Trevor's going to sleep

59:35

and I like don't want it to be too loud. Yeah,

59:37

the like lowest notch on the volume is still too loud

59:40

to go in it like it

59:42

tease it down. It's it. Everything

59:46

sucks. That's the summary

59:48

of 16 years of

59:50

podcasting. Everything sucks. What is

59:52

better about it? I mean, making

59:54

content is a little easier. I remember you

59:56

had to get like special hard drives to capture

59:59

video to. What is better? What? What's

1:00:01

better now versus that? Oh, oh. Question? Is that the

1:00:03

question? I, you like mumbled and had your hand in

1:00:05

your mouth. I was like, what the fuck is he

1:00:07

saying? I'm not good at poker. Um... Yeah,

1:00:11

I mean, it's just easier now. So annoying. We

1:00:14

had to spend so much money for hard drives

1:00:16

back in the day to like capture HD, which

1:00:18

is fucking stupid. Yeah. Like

1:00:21

I said, everything... There's so much more

1:00:23

processing power everywhere. I can do it, you know,

1:00:25

on your phone. Internet speeds are

1:00:27

way better. Like downloading shit. Like

1:00:30

downloading games on Steam at home. I've got

1:00:32

like a gigabit connection. Mm-hmm. Everything downloads like

1:00:35

so incredibly fast. Super quick. Compared to back then.

1:00:38

What do you think is better now? Yeah,

1:00:40

like sharing content. Yeah. The

1:00:43

speed that you can make stuff is

1:00:45

great. I think it's a... Trying

1:00:48

to figure out social media has been a struggle.

1:00:51

Like, I feel like you have

1:00:53

to play that game now to make content

1:00:55

really like... Yeah. I think we're...

1:00:58

Just make it. Just make what you like.

1:01:00

You're making shorts now? Yeah. I

1:01:02

have my shorts. Oh, okay. It's kind of hard to

1:01:04

slow it because they're long by

1:01:06

default. Just play like the real speed version. Be

1:01:08

like, you want to see that? It's way

1:01:10

slower. Watch this 60 minute video. Yeah. I'm

1:01:13

jumping into a pool. But I think even

1:01:15

social media usage has radically changed.

1:01:17

And will continue to change where it's a lot less...

1:01:22

Personal driven. Mm-hmm. And

1:01:24

a lot more just like content. You know, like

1:01:27

TikTok, for example. Or things like that. Or even

1:01:29

you making content and posting it on different socials.

1:01:31

It's not like eating a cheeseburger.

1:01:33

Or like just the dumb ephemeral

1:01:35

stuff that people used to pass. A post.

1:01:37

There's a lot of food content. When

1:01:39

I think Instagram first started, it was like

1:01:41

pictures of people's lunch. Also, the weird thing

1:01:43

to me is like, I don't know how many people

1:01:45

remember. Like when Instagram started, it

1:01:48

wasn't a social media thing. It was just like filters

1:01:50

for the phone... For the camera on your phone. Camera

1:01:52

app. Yeah. And it didn't even

1:01:54

save the original unfiltered photo.

1:01:56

They would just save the filtered

1:01:59

Instagram version. i thought it was the dumbest

1:02:01

thing in the world it why would i why

1:02:03

does it not take the original photo to a

1:02:05

district of dumb filter vote version that's all you

1:02:07

get yep i remember that

1:02:09

i was really think in the biggest which are

1:02:11

it was on face book remember making

1:02:13

my account and then you can like type

1:02:16

all the things that you like like i'm i

1:02:18

like the office this movie

1:02:20

and then that's a fact dormant is packet

1:02:23

of interest for years and also

1:02:25

in those things that posting on your feet

1:02:28

like i've got i think you know like they've

1:02:30

used it against me yep they weaponized it she's

1:02:33

the boss but they are the

1:02:35

campages right yeah but i'm also just like who's

1:02:37

running the official part of the

1:02:39

caribbean this guy right here i

1:02:41

don't have a lot more time to dedicate to uh... by

1:02:43

pirates face book page i i don't know

1:02:46

if i've ever talked about this but you know how i used

1:02:48

to run the social media research is that

1:02:50

included face book and for some reason

1:02:53

i don't know how it happened we had like certain

1:02:55

pages for an event including

1:02:57

like matt hallam and like all

1:03:00

our different shows miles luna and

1:03:02

for some reason i with had

1:03:05

like ownership over those pages so i would

1:03:07

get messages on those pages people thinking i

1:03:09

was mad which you know cut

1:03:12

was legit and mike just like the weirdest messages

1:03:14

and i think i should tell

1:03:16

these people about these are just i've

1:03:19

been accepted as people who but do

1:03:21

you matter from high school and

1:03:24

i don't know me when you bought the son of a bitch

1:03:28

i buy a lot of domains and i own

1:03:30

a domain that is similar

1:03:32

to like someone's realty

1:03:34

business of god so i frequently get like

1:03:36

email that's very clearly intended for them that's

1:03:39

just like and it's not it's not a

1:03:41

domain i use it's just like it

1:03:43

just gets delivered to like a general bucket for that

1:03:46

uh... for that domain alike and i can't

1:03:48

i can even every record for you to send email

1:03:50

out of that domain it just like sit there like

1:03:52

i don't know what to do with the peace these

1:03:54

are for me and now and

1:03:57

they feel guilty of the such as a good doing something

1:03:59

with these are I don't know. Yeah. How

1:04:01

many domains do you have? Oh, I don't know. 40, 50. What's

1:04:03

your like

1:04:06

annual domain bill? I don't know. It doesn't all happen at

1:04:08

once. So it's hard to say. It's like spread out over

1:04:10

time as I buy them.

1:04:12

Your annual domain bill. It's

1:04:15

a lot cheaper when I went back in the late

1:04:17

90s when we started getting domains like one. So you

1:04:19

should be, there was a point where it was

1:04:22

difficult to get them and then they opened it up and

1:04:25

there was only one company you could buy domains from. It

1:04:27

was Internic and it was like

1:04:29

$70 a year for domains back then. So

1:04:31

old domains? Yeah. Well it was only, it

1:04:33

was a lot more limited. It was only like dot

1:04:35

com.net dot org. Yeah. It was $70 a year

1:04:37

for any domain and now

1:04:39

it's like 12 bucks.

1:04:42

Oh wow. Something. Yeah. Super

1:04:44

affordable. It's not better. Do

1:04:46

you think you guys have a favorite

1:04:49

production or favorite show

1:04:51

that you've worked on in the last

1:04:54

21 years? It's funny. There's a

1:04:56

lot I'm sure I've forgotten. Yeah. I think

1:05:00

right now it's

1:05:02

definitely Stinky Dragon.

1:05:05

Man, I don't know. It's

1:05:07

a weird phenomenon where it's like you try to

1:05:09

think back but there's like so much

1:05:12

that you're like, oh yeah, that thing

1:05:14

completely wiped my memory. Even like so

1:05:16

many one off things or live streams

1:05:18

we did for promotional things. Yeah. Like

1:05:21

I met Thierry Henry at Day of Doom.

1:05:24

Like how fucking weird and

1:05:26

random is that? Like everyone was excited about

1:05:28

like, everyone's calling him like theory Henry. Yeah.

1:05:30

Yeah. I was excited about like, I think

1:05:33

like American football player Gronk was there was excited about that.

1:05:35

And I was like, fuck Thierry Henry, he's right there.

1:05:38

Like that dude passes a statue of

1:05:40

himself going into the stadium to play

1:05:43

soccer. Jesus. So famous. It's weird stuff

1:05:45

like that. That stands out to

1:05:47

me where it's like, I was in the same room as

1:05:49

this other person where I talked to them. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:05:52

mean, there's that podcast where we're sat next to

1:05:54

Rosario Dawson. Yeah. And I

1:05:56

was just sat on the couch. It's like, what

1:05:59

is that? From a small town in England. I don't know why

1:06:01

I'm here. How did I get on this? I

1:06:04

think it was during the

1:06:06

PlayStation 3 reveal at E3 when

1:06:09

Jeff and I sat next to Steven Spielberg. I

1:06:14

did not know about that. Yeah, it's like the

1:06:16

the the viewings for the PlayStation 3 demo were

1:06:18

by appointment. Yeah. And they had like a small

1:06:20

theater set up with like 30 or 40 people

1:06:22

at a time. And like

1:06:25

Jeff and I what showed up at our appointment

1:06:27

time and we sat down, the lights dimmed. Then

1:06:29

like right after the lights were dimmed and right

1:06:31

before the presentation started, Steven Spielberg came in at

1:06:33

the last second and sat like right next to us with like his son

1:06:35

and his son's friend. Oh my God. Like Steven Spielberg was next to us

1:06:37

and then his son and his son's friend were like right in the row

1:06:39

in front of us. I was like, how did

1:06:42

you realize? Because I when someone comes and sits

1:06:44

next to me in the theater, I never look at them.

1:06:46

Well, it's because it was weird because the lights were already off.

1:06:48

Oh. It was about a start. Like who the fuck came in

1:06:50

late? Oh, OK, that's cool. Or the

1:06:52

time we were at a San Diego Comic Con

1:06:54

and Jeff and I went to the hotel bar,

1:06:56

the hotel we were staying at and sat down. And

1:06:59

then I looked over and J.J. Abrams was right there. Jeez.

1:07:01

Yeah. It was like right after Star Trek had come out and

1:07:03

I think I was like, oh, that's

1:07:06

weird. And the number the bartender came up with was like,

1:07:08

you're not going to fuck with him, are you? No, no,

1:07:10

no, no, no. We just want my drink. That's all I'm

1:07:13

going to leave him alone. Was that with you when we

1:07:15

stood right behind Sandra Bullock in some coffee place? Oh, yeah,

1:07:17

it was on West 6th. It was

1:07:19

at that Walton's fancy and staple. And

1:07:22

then there was the time I played

1:07:24

Battlefield with Terry Crews

1:07:26

and Bernie was on the other side. Next

1:07:29

to Snoop Dogg. Oh, yeah. And my favorite

1:07:31

story about her passing a joint over Bernie

1:07:33

back and forth. And I couldn't even see

1:07:36

him. It was just in the

1:07:38

cloud at the other end. My

1:07:40

one of my favorite stories is hearing how Bernie got high

1:07:42

from a dog. I like went back to the green room

1:07:45

and was like, oh, Twizzlers. You

1:07:48

got high directly from Snoop's lung. I

1:07:52

really liked Singy Dragon, I think

1:07:54

has been like one of my favorite things we've ever done

1:07:56

here. But I also had so much fun doing like the

1:07:59

immersion. episodes like I think about

1:08:01

that one we did was it North Carolina or

1:08:03

like Georgia Georgia The way the racing

1:08:05

the racetrack was really fun. Yeah real

1:08:08

fun that one real great That

1:08:12

was also an anniversary that was

1:08:14

10th anniversary. Yeah Yeah,

1:08:17

we did a plug that we did that. Yeah,

1:08:19

they're from the old you tower. Yeah. Yeah, I

1:08:21

vomited a lot that day you did immersion

1:08:24

was really Fun almost

1:08:26

every time except I caught on

1:08:28

fire once that wasn't this fun I really like the

1:08:30

fall out one we did That

1:08:32

one was the weirdest one. That was just kind of like Improv.

1:08:36

Yeah, I remember you guys are

1:08:38

gonna go here and get this information from this person and then

1:08:40

I remember making that and

1:08:42

there was like a loose plot that we had to

1:08:44

follow but pretty much anything else we were just reacting

1:08:46

to the stuff and I Was

1:08:49

talking to Tyler co who was just

1:08:51

being an NPC and I legitimately? Due

1:08:55

to like really poor nerf gun

1:08:57

trigger discipline. I accidentally shot him and

1:09:01

Just went with it and died either you like

1:09:03

canonically died in the thing and I was laughing

1:09:05

so much I just couldn't believe that that was

1:09:08

the take we were using I was like, oh

1:09:10

he's and he was but you supposed to like

1:09:12

Get information for him or something. Yeah Killed

1:09:16

him after we got the question and then that's how it turned

1:09:18

out in the episode It's just

1:09:20

so funny that he Without even

1:09:22

thinking just went with the death and yeah filmed it

1:09:24

as it was supposed to happen That's one of those

1:09:26

playthroughs where you do like a quick load. Yeah, you

1:09:29

last say like accidentally quick saved

1:09:31

after it So

1:09:34

good there. I still

1:09:36

remember we did I think like one of the first

1:09:38

immersions I think like me and Lindsay were also on

1:09:40

with you and Michael where it

1:09:42

was the Like

1:09:44

you guys had each other's perspectives and we had

1:09:46

paintball guys. Yeah Oh my god, Michael in

1:09:48

that hole. Oh my god And

1:09:51

we were we were trying to get it It

1:09:53

was like this like weird visor that they rigged

1:09:55

with cameras and screens and like it was really

1:09:57

crazy and trying to get it Comfortably on your

1:09:59

face It's not shown in the

1:10:01

video. It took like 45 minutes. Yeah Right

1:10:06

you were running with all that wire. Yeah, my

1:10:08

shit. There's so much tech on that one That

1:10:10

was a nightmare and Michael just kept

1:10:12

falling in the same hole He's on the same

1:10:14

hole three times and I just couldn't walk because

1:10:17

I was laughing so much that I remember also

1:10:19

that day So like we had parked

1:10:21

in the parking lot and then you had to walk like Like

1:10:24

half a mile or so out to where

1:10:26

that setup was. Yeah, I remember we

1:10:28

were done for the day Bernie

1:10:31

looked around like they would see my car key And

1:10:35

I was like no he was I think I dropped

1:10:37

it somewhere between here in the set Oh my god,

1:10:39

just like start walking back and forth that

1:10:41

half mile over and over looking for his car He

1:10:43

eventually found it was just like on the ground somewhere

1:10:45

Wow, the motion was fun as well because a lot

1:10:47

of the time we were just in a different location

1:10:50

Yeah, there's so much waiting around because a lot of

1:10:52

time we had like eight cameras

1:10:54

on it I remember us just playing

1:10:56

in that big pipe Around

1:11:00

you kicked them. I saw that video it pops

1:11:02

up my phone right now And then they went

1:11:04

all the way around the pipe and then like

1:11:06

hit each other Yeah,

1:11:09

yeah that I think that in million dollars, but to it's

1:11:11

like some of the most fun I've had like

1:11:14

on set I think it's cuz like those

1:11:16

were such big high budget productions for a

1:11:18

bit and it was I don't know It

1:11:20

was cool to have like such a big crew involved in like

1:11:23

do you remember when we we did the crowdfunded?

1:11:27

Million dollars buck card game and it

1:11:29

legitimately made a million dollars in

1:11:32

one day. Yeah, that's crazy that

1:11:34

we did It was

1:11:36

$9 button in the first laser team movie or the

1:11:39

things we did crowdfunding for right? Yeah Gosh,

1:11:42

I think a lot of the most fun I had was

1:11:44

actually towards the end like I really Love

1:11:47

bleep face. I look forward to every day You

1:11:50

think you guys are gonna try to keep making stuff together? There'll

1:11:53

be something And even

1:11:55

like late

1:11:57

game achievement hunter let's play

1:11:59

like Gmod stuff like in the Fiona

1:12:02

era. I loved all of

1:12:04

that so much. Oh. Survive

1:12:07

Block Island. Oh. Yeah.

1:12:10

Survive Block Island was really fun. Also

1:12:13

so stressful. That

1:12:15

was fun. That was really good. It was a Survive Block

1:12:17

Island bit of trivia in

1:12:19

your trivia contest the other day. And I knew it because

1:12:22

the first person eliminated in season one was the person I

1:12:24

was trying to make an alliance with. Yeah. And

1:12:27

I was like fuck. I'm

1:12:29

screwed now. I had to be very particular with

1:12:31

my wording in that question to say eliminated not

1:12:33

voted off. Right. Because. He

1:12:35

technically wasn't voted off. Yeah. We ended up on that. Oh

1:12:37

it went to ROK on the first. Oh.

1:12:40

Dude. It got fucked immediately. It

1:12:42

was so fucked up. It

1:12:44

was a tie and then it said okay you can

1:12:46

only vote for these people that the tie is between.

1:12:48

And then there was another tie. And so

1:12:50

then it had to go to Picking Stones with the people who

1:12:53

weren't voted for. That's survivor rule.

1:12:55

Right. It's basically it's like you guys

1:12:57

can't come to a conclusion then the

1:12:59

people who were voting now are in

1:13:01

jeopardy as like a punishment essentially. Right.

1:13:05

I think it was. And it was you. I think it was you BK and Jacob

1:13:07

had the pick right? I think so. Yeah.

1:13:09

Some weird stuff happens in those rules. Like I think

1:13:11

on Survivor might have been Suri or

1:13:14

someone because it was a

1:13:16

tie so many times and then it went to ROK and

1:13:18

there was certain immunities she was

1:13:20

just gone by default and

1:13:22

I think was the only person to never have

1:13:24

received a single vote. Still be eliminated. Eliminated from

1:13:26

Survivor. She was so good though. Yeah. Suri.

1:13:29

She's been on a few seasons now. Yeah. It's

1:13:32

funny when you really get into the weeds or the rules and

1:13:34

you're like. And

1:13:36

we never thought this would happen but here we are. Everyone understands

1:13:38

all the rules to a certain extent and then it's like all

1:13:40

right let's go and get the rule book. Yeah. Some

1:13:43

scenarios have happened. The flow chart has gone to

1:13:45

this one specific point. The contingency for the contingency.

1:13:47

Yeah. It's wild.

1:13:49

Yes. I think Survivor Block Island

1:13:52

is definitely up there. Yeah. And

1:13:54

then I wasn't in season two but watching season

1:13:56

two was fucking great. Yeah. or

1:14:01

least favorite thing that you made here? I

1:14:05

think least favorite. Well,

1:14:07

I won't count that cause that wasn't like officially

1:14:10

like something we put out. They're

1:14:13

beloved and I like them, but

1:14:15

I hated making them some of the

1:14:17

early RT shorts. Because

1:14:20

it would take fucking

1:14:22

forever to film. It'd be

1:14:24

like, we've got it, we've got it. We don't need to

1:14:26

roll. We don't need to keep doing takes. Oh my God,

1:14:29

we've got it. How many times have you heard one more

1:14:31

for safety? Like

1:14:33

legitimately. I remember making the,

1:14:36

cause I was in a few in the, I assume the

1:14:38

first season. The one where I- Chief Cordura

1:14:40

I think is still my favorite RT short ever and that's with

1:14:42

your, the Gabby clone. Cause we had a scene there where I

1:14:44

had to like come back at night to see

1:14:46

what was in the closet. And it just legitimately was

1:14:49

night cause we'd been filming so long. And then after that we

1:14:51

had to do me changing

1:14:53

outfits and standing at a different spot and trying to get that

1:14:55

shot. And I think it was like 2 AM by the time

1:14:58

we finished. Yeah, it sucked. I hated it. I

1:15:00

was really- And then it was like straight back to what? The

1:15:02

next morning. Yeah. I'll be being

1:15:04

honest. I loved some of those old shorts. They were great.

1:15:06

But yeah, I imagine they're tedious to

1:15:08

make. I remember the first short I was in was

1:15:10

the Siri holiday horror movie

1:15:12

trailer. Yeah, that was a good one. It was

1:15:14

great. But it

1:15:17

was a very, it took days to film that

1:15:19

because especially when you're making a trailer, it's like,

1:15:21

we need this shot of this happening in this

1:15:23

little bit and this little bit. But

1:15:26

that's the short where I was covered in blood and

1:15:28

I had texted Bernie to help me. And then I put

1:15:31

my phone down for like four hours and

1:15:33

I came back to like a string of texts me

1:15:35

like, ha ha. Yeah. Are

1:15:38

you okay though? Like, what's

1:15:40

going on? Hello? Like, do you actually

1:15:42

need help? And don't be very

1:15:44

bad. But I was rewatching that one the

1:15:46

other day. And I

1:15:49

think that might be my least favorite short

1:15:52

that exists online because I had to

1:15:54

scream in that short. But

1:15:56

I was so not confident

1:15:58

in myself or like. comfortable screaming

1:16:01

because like when you're not used to performing it's

1:16:03

like screaming is like a very weird thing so

1:16:05

throughout the short you hear one scream that I

1:16:07

did that I like mustard up the curse you and it

1:16:09

was like so

1:16:12

many times that trailer and I

1:16:14

think they just reuse it like a few times

1:16:16

and I was re-washing it together like this is

1:16:18

awful oh

1:16:22

I think I disliked making weird

1:16:24

place the most which I think

1:16:27

actually turn out good and actually like an

1:16:29

interesting show I

1:16:31

remember just having shit sleep and we had to film at

1:16:33

night because it was open during the day so

1:16:35

I was just awake all

1:16:38

day when I should have been sleeping and then as I

1:16:40

was starting to get tired it'd be like alright let's head

1:16:42

to set it's 9 p.m. it's like oh my god and

1:16:44

all the stuff is like bright flashing

1:16:46

lights and I just remember just being between stuffs

1:16:49

just being like I feel like I'm

1:16:51

asleep you don't do that Santa Fe yeah yeah

1:16:54

that was Santa Fe I will

1:16:56

you guys weren't on this shoot but and

1:16:58

I was barely on it but I

1:17:00

know it was a least favorite experience from

1:17:02

a lot of people is camp betrayal apparently

1:17:06

that was a nightmare because it was

1:17:08

all overnight shoot so it was like

1:17:10

6 p.m. to 6 a.m. shoots but

1:17:13

it was like really cold and like wet and

1:17:15

muddy I got eliminated the first

1:17:17

night so I didn't have to come back

1:17:20

but apparently the second night they had we're having like

1:17:22

tech issues with something and Fredo

1:17:24

was like kneeled in the mud like had his hands

1:17:26

tied behind his back because they're like some game they

1:17:29

were playing blindfolded and he was just

1:17:31

sitting there in the mud I think he said for like

1:17:33

three hours well they were trying

1:17:35

to get things fixed that's that's I think that's the worst part

1:17:37

if you will don't see it's like the setup

1:17:39

and the waiting and like all the stuff

1:17:41

that goes wrong like oh yeah

1:17:43

and I'm like yeah it's not so pissed about being

1:17:46

eliminated for nice she's a extra bad when you're transitioning

1:17:48

in or out of them like if you've been

1:17:50

doing nights for like three weeks you get kind

1:17:52

of in the back

1:17:55

right yeah the swing of it and

1:17:57

then but it's In the winter it's

1:17:59

the worst like we do. The way the team at night. In.

1:18:01

The cold bad and they were stashed

1:18:03

is between takes been freezing to the

1:18:05

various feces and at one point i

1:18:07

wrap myself at a blanket and stood

1:18:09

by where the lights one of the

1:18:11

really bright ones that a bicycle fire

1:18:13

and I was finally like the right

1:18:15

have a society as a smoke coming

1:18:17

off as Isis ah finally war in.

1:18:19

There isn't a laser team

1:18:22

was particularly. Brutal. I

1:18:24

think because of the time period us or for me

1:18:26

it but we have like a whole scene that was. How.

1:18:29

It was the see like a house party

1:18:31

and michael gets like tais in. The movie

1:18:33

and falls into the pool. And oh

1:18:35

my god I feel horrible for you. And then then

1:18:38

we had like actors and stuff like that who were

1:18:40

lot of like volunteers, community members, a list of who

1:18:42

participated in the movie. Who had to be

1:18:44

in the pool for that whole suit? And

1:18:46

it was like. Twenty. Five thirty

1:18:48

degrees Louis Be was. Wasn't

1:18:51

very cold, Very cold. And

1:18:53

that was also the same time we had to do. The

1:18:55

cheerleader uniforms out and cold.

1:18:58

And that was brutal because it was like a football

1:19:00

field. so there's like nothing the catch the wind. That

1:19:03

was brutal. So. Called I'm

1:19:05

Canadian, I've never been colder my life. With.

1:19:09

Stringent Swim. A lot to look

1:19:12

record. It's crazy to think about all the different

1:19:14

projects. I. Still am confused

1:19:16

about some stuff. Like. What like sunrise?

1:19:18

the assault me in the face in the mouth

1:19:20

of the paypal. But. I was wearing

1:19:22

a painful loss. How did it get in

1:19:24

my mouth? I

1:19:26

still don't know. I don't understand the physics of it.

1:19:30

It went into my throat a through

1:19:32

phases my. He

1:19:35

had advisor right. Yes, voters lists like

1:19:38

it. Pulling a pie? have you had

1:19:40

you went back for second. Then it

1:19:42

went. Three for slow mo on a. Separate

1:19:45

cause I've analyzed the further console I went in.

1:19:47

But I'd. Rather just spitting out.

1:19:51

It. Was either a mud paint and shower whose blood

1:19:53

and teeth and I was hoping. Hoping

1:19:56

for been two thousand is that yours injury

1:19:58

but you've had with they should is. Max.

1:20:03

Crumbs: He knocked me out with a. Stuffed

1:20:06

bird. I. Told my that right.

1:20:08

I. Don't know he was like packing me to

1:20:10

death and Emily those bus but I think he

1:20:12

likes sex my jugs you know my job and

1:20:15

I just lost his business or for you I

1:20:17

went to sleep and wake up as a as

1:20:19

a streaming. A

1:20:22

massive see we're super don't remember that one

1:20:24

that that was funny sort of. I laughed

1:20:26

and a. Oh. I got

1:20:28

off to slimmer Injury them is technically a receipt for us

1:20:31

and. Stitches. Jesus

1:20:33

I got hit by a. Piece.

1:20:35

Of a exploded spray paint and.

1:20:38

I. Think I know. I guess is where Century was here

1:20:40

for wasn't. When we're filming that

1:20:43

tic toc of us to in the

1:20:45

blindfolded tortilla challenge have or electricity each

1:20:47

other with blindfolds or with that had

1:20:50

my mother with tortillas. And

1:20:52

John Rising I guess since

1:20:54

dislike. I guess cause in

1:20:56

Swindon legs. And might hurt your

1:20:58

finger. This

1:21:01

leader who likes to sit in such

1:21:03

a way that it like instantly started

1:21:05

ballooning and swirling. He has just hit

1:21:07

it hard to stop the of raising

1:21:09

my my ring opera touching my ring

1:21:11

off immediately started. saw your legs for

1:21:14

a month I couldn't bend and always

1:21:16

fun when you see break it he

1:21:18

miles her kidney of fractures in the

1:21:20

movie is either that or when we

1:21:22

did. Nothing good can be like the

1:21:24

fifth Grade Sinister. Your

1:21:27

store for of muscle. Ups

1:21:30

but didn't want to lose my desire to

1:21:32

know the loop my desire to be to

1:21:34

Britain does. My problem is I get super

1:21:37

competitive about stuff via we will hurt myself

1:21:39

through one of the early emergence. Also. The.

1:21:41

Side scrolling one. When. You're

1:21:44

from economists yourself from third person Mario

1:21:46

games. Or Bernie hit me as a

1:21:48

bullet bill amount of me pretty bad girls hurt for

1:21:50

a while after this mess. The things your face it's

1:21:52

first thing you know my face and been enough me

1:21:54

off balance and since I couldn't see twice a mask

1:21:56

on I can we see third person I couldn't tear

1:21:59

to my silva. Like tumbling. Really

1:22:01

pathetic. Oh yeah

1:22:03

river I also sucker a football to the

1:22:05

say sex realized that hit me so hard

1:22:07

that a like skipped frame my god as

1:22:09

your life yet I was like a lots

1:22:12

of lots the moon both which. And

1:22:14

table with of the bruising Yeah. But.

1:22:17

Receive. A kick. The ball so hard my

1:22:19

head. That. I I saw I saw

1:22:22

the ball on the floor. I saw his

1:22:24

leg kick in. it. And then

1:22:26

like one frame later in my vision I

1:22:28

like it. Only see my own leg and

1:22:30

the sky. And

1:22:33

everything in between was missing, it

1:22:35

just came of me so fast

1:22:37

around me and awesome, awesome shot

1:22:40

really with our bodies up. A

1:22:43

spin fun for this is nothing permanent

1:22:45

V and record assistance and soon erm

1:22:47

mattress to related but Japan where inches

1:22:50

from under me to suit. Video

1:22:52

a couple days ago. The guy who almost got. Hit

1:22:55

by that saw. No. No like

1:22:57

some guys he was in Oregon walks into a

1:22:59

convenience store in this looks to to tell her

1:23:01

footage and in like a second or two after

1:23:03

he walks in this random join a softball size

1:23:06

of like me been solid mass like the size

1:23:08

of this. Of the gold part

1:23:10

here here is drying saw blade just comes from

1:23:12

out of nowhere to the parking lot of thing

1:23:14

with embeds itself into the wall selling level of

1:23:16

Half Life. Two words he had just been. Will

1:23:18

have. My god we

1:23:20

are just was like some would saw that

1:23:22

that a come loose from a construction site

1:23:24

I see that was like tires coming loose

1:23:26

and Karzai bouncing down the road on the

1:23:29

sitting pedestrians and anything with like circular the

1:23:31

events him can just door so much energy

1:23:33

obscure forever yeah want to see that and

1:23:35

feel for that is wild. The are tasteless.

1:23:38

I've never, I don't I city says

1:23:40

I'm I'm going tasteless. Or

1:23:43

taste gonna. Your T guy. Now when did

1:23:45

that happen? Ah, seamless

1:23:47

for for five phones the Oh and I. Smashed

1:23:50

like a we thought I say okay see it. As

1:23:53

it. Applies. Er

1:23:56

has the little while on the back. Yes,

1:23:59

I left alone. So smart. So

1:24:01

you drop it and then everything goes flying. While

1:24:03

it could be stronger. Walks

1:24:07

into a store. What? Oh

1:24:12

my god. God, god, it just sticks in

1:24:14

the wall. Oh my god.

1:24:17

Where did that even come from? I think it was like

1:24:19

a construction site across the street or something. You

1:24:21

mentioned being the guy operating that sword, it's just,

1:24:23

it's gone. You're like,

1:24:25

uh. Or imagine like

1:24:27

all the little decisions in that guy's life that

1:24:29

put him through the door at that moment. Like,

1:24:32

what if you'd been a second slower? What if

1:24:34

his keys, what if you dropped his keys

1:24:36

when you picked him up? And had to like

1:24:38

bend over and grab him or anything along the way that

1:24:40

would have delayed him just like another second. It's

1:24:43

like that truck that lost the wheel right under

1:24:45

that other car and it flipped the car. Did you

1:24:47

see that one? No. Yeah. That

1:24:50

one was wild. It looks like someone just like in James

1:24:52

Bond movie just fires a tire out and it completely flips the car.

1:24:55

It literally launches it up. It's amazing how easy

1:24:57

it is to look for a car to flip. Again,

1:25:00

like all that momentum, you can

1:25:02

very easily get him going the wrong way.

1:25:07

So, um, no

1:25:09

more Anma, but are you and Jeff

1:25:11

going to try to do stuff together still? Probably.

1:25:14

I mean, everything's still so up in the air. So

1:25:16

let's think about this the other day, and you guys have mentioned this

1:25:18

a number of times, of like the podcast and

1:25:20

the shows that we've been doing are like really the only

1:25:22

time we see each other and talk to each other. And

1:25:25

it's like, do we have to continue a podcast? That's

1:25:27

exactly Jeff's argument for like doing

1:25:30

Anma or for continuing trying

1:25:32

to find something new to do. Oh,

1:25:35

good old chance worth. We're

1:25:38

watching it. Oh,

1:25:41

God, I still keep watching. Here we

1:25:43

go. It comes

1:25:45

up. Oh,

1:25:47

my God. Can you imagine the thing in the... You got

1:25:49

some serious air, yeah, you're just driving and then next thing

1:25:51

you go you're like 15 feet in the air. Oh, I'm

1:25:54

kidding. It's like you looking at your foot. They're

1:25:56

driving and they're looking down at the road. We

1:25:58

didn't Know if Brad Stuber was driving. That try. For

1:26:02

Tyler said that the from the pizza's

1:26:05

here cigar city even a we should

1:26:07

We should wrap this up and get

1:26:09

some pizza. Ah,

1:26:11

Any final words? I guess some. Thanks.

1:26:14

For watching whether it was for. One.

1:26:16

Week One year. Or twenty one years. Ah, it's

1:26:19

been. It's been a lot of fun. Yeah.

1:26:21

And been a. Snap. Sleep on it.

1:26:25

Being. Paid to make people are the last a few.

1:26:27

It's at the into the day that's that. I wanted

1:26:29

to make people laugh and a foul. I'm excited to

1:26:31

see what. We'll. Do. A

1:26:34

few would from a mentor teacher and as you have any idea

1:26:36

of I mean I. Think

1:26:39

it as fight we live in. Utah

1:26:44

Jazz. Hands of it Now like this: every

1:26:46

love. Moma or no.