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very excited to

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talk to Greg about some of these moves have been made

2:08

over the last seven to ten days it's

2:10

big show time. The Big

2:12

Show. Alright

2:15

Greg I don't know if we've

2:18

done this other years I think we have

2:20

I probably asked you about some of the

2:22

big moves while we're talking about some of

2:24

the college prospects but there's enough that went

2:26

down that I really wanted to get your

2:28

thoughts on the moves and

2:30

how you see them in different offenses

2:32

and we'll start with

2:34

the quarterbacks of course and let's

2:37

start with Kirk Cousins he's going

2:39

to Atlanta Greg he'll be

2:41

working with Zach Robinson who comes over

2:43

from the McVeigh tree which

2:46

I think is interesting because obviously when Cousins

2:49

was in Washington McVeigh

2:51

was there so he's got

2:53

some familiarity there obviously Kevin O'Connell came

2:55

from the Rams as well so he's

2:58

not going to be he's not going to

3:00

have a whole a huge transition Greg when

3:03

it comes to the offense that's for sure.

3:05

No no in fact it'll be the same offense

3:08

and the same terminology so

3:10

for Kirk Cousins it's not really going to

3:12

be a dramatic change in any way whatsoever.

3:15

They've got some pretty good skilled position

3:17

players too this could be a very

3:19

interesting offense because obviously

3:21

they've got B. John Robinson you know he

3:24

can run either Gafs scheme or his own.

3:26

You know Kyle

3:29

Pitts is the guy that fascinates me the

3:31

most with now within the context of this

3:33

offense because he really hasn't shown for whatever

3:36

reason you know one could argue that you

3:38

know with Arthur Smith there that they don't

3:40

throw the ball a lot whatever the reason

3:42

you want to pick out but Kyle Pitts

3:45

is a highly talented guy who just hasn't

3:47

become what I think everybody including myself thought

3:49

he could become at the NFL level so

3:51

he's the guy that fascinates me we know

3:54

about the receivers they have London big receiver

3:56

they sign Mooney who can run you

3:59

know there's a lot there are to work with

4:01

solid O-line. This could be a really,

4:03

really solid offensive team. People can say

4:05

what they want about Kirk Cousins, but

4:07

he is an efficient quarterback. Every year

4:10

he does the same thing. He's

4:12

really good. He understands the game at

4:14

a really high level. It's

4:17

a really good spot for him and they could have

4:19

a really good offense. I

4:22

want to go back to Pitts for a second. You

4:25

know, I did that Falcons-Bears game late in

4:27

the year. Greg, and I,

4:29

you know, the sense I got talking

4:31

with some Atlanta people is

4:34

that Pitts really hasn't been

4:36

right physically over the last

4:38

couple years. He had a good rookie year,

4:41

got hurt that second year, and

4:43

I'm not sure he was really

4:45

a hundred percent or

4:48

fully healthy last year. I am

4:51

really anxious to see the combo of

4:53

him presumably being fully healthy

4:57

with a quarterback like

4:59

Kirk Cousins and a scheme like

5:01

Zach Robinson's that will get

5:03

him the ball and utilize him in a

5:05

way that we think he should. You know,

5:08

kind of had a bunch of

5:10

strikes against him, right? Like he had the

5:12

injury, the quarterback play

5:14

in Atlanta was not good,

5:17

and you know, the scheme, they spread the ball

5:19

around to a lot of people. They were not

5:22

really featuring him in a way

5:24

that he could be. I think, man,

5:26

he seems like a really primed breakout

5:30

candidate this year. Yeah, I agree. That's

5:32

why I mentioned him because he's

5:34

really gifted. You know, we talk about tight

5:36

ends a lot. We talk about how they're

5:38

deployed now in the league, particularly the athletic

5:40

ones like Pitts that can line up anywhere,

5:42

and I think, you know, that gives an

5:44

offensive coordinator, and again, it's a first-year one

5:46

in Zach Robinson, but it gives him a

5:48

lot of tools in the toolbox, so

5:50

Pitts to me is the most intriguing offensive

5:52

player on that team. Okay,

5:55

so Greg, I think most

5:57

of us believe that... to

6:00

operate as a bridge quarterback

6:03

and that the Vikings are looking to make

6:05

a move to move up in the draft

6:07

to select a quarterback. That seems to be

6:09

the belief, the consensus at this

6:11

point now that they've lost Kirk Cousins.

6:14

But they did sign Sam Darnold. And I

6:17

got to ask you, Greg, I've

6:19

known him since he was 17. I called

6:22

the US Army Bowl. He was fantastic in that

6:24

game, by the way, and they were

6:26

really high on it. But it feels like

6:28

he's gotten a lot of opportunities. And

6:30

it feels like there are still people

6:32

that are fans of him, still

6:35

believe in him. At what

6:38

point do we say a guy

6:40

is what he is? I mean, I feel like he's

6:42

gotten a bunch of opportunities. And now, I

6:44

mean, obviously the Vikings are Kevin O'Connell, they

6:46

believe in him and they're giving him another

6:49

one. I mean, you've watched a lot of

6:51

Sam Darnold, Greg, over the years. Yeah,

6:54

I have. And your point's a good one. There'll be

6:56

a lot of people who tell you that this is

6:58

Sam Darnold, that he's always going

7:00

to throw a lot of picks. He's always

7:02

going to have trouble seeing it exactly the

7:04

right way in certain situations. But now he's

7:07

with the Kevin O'Connell offense. And as you

7:09

mentioned, he came from the Rams. This offense

7:11

has been really good in Minnesota. I mean,

7:13

look at what happened with Dobbs last year

7:15

when he came in. And he really,

7:18

O'Connell was able to present it to

7:20

Dobbs in such a way that he

7:22

could function pretty quickly. This is sort of

7:24

the year, I think, that we can make

7:26

the definitive statement about Darnold because he's

7:28

going to be their starting quarterback. And

7:31

it's an offense that really does

7:33

a good job in attacking and

7:35

breaking down defenses with all their

7:38

formations, with their shifts, with

7:40

their motions, with their reduced

7:43

splits. They do

7:45

a really good job in defining it

7:47

for the quarterback and attacking and breaking

7:49

down defenses. Now, is Darnold going to

7:51

have bad moments? I'm sure he will.

7:53

But let's see. I'm

7:56

always an optimist when it comes to this kind of stuff

7:58

because I'm such a big believer in. Audrey And

8:00

again, I'm not suggesting he's been coached

8:02

poorly. you know, certainly was the back

8:05

up last year and San Francisco. He

8:07

was probably coached extremely well, he just

8:09

didn't get to play. So now let's

8:11

see an there's there is some carry

8:13

over to between the Shanahan offense and

8:16

the Mic Mcveigh O'connell are sense so

8:18

you know some of the principles and

8:20

concepts he'll understand. just intuitive leads from

8:22

being with our Shanahan a year ago.

8:25

Or it's a great. There's a lot to get to.

8:28

As a relates to the Pittsburgh Steelers,

8:31

And. Therefore, drawbacks. Had

8:33

maggots I got. Ask you

8:35

about three guys. Ah, the

8:37

first guy is the guy

8:39

they traded to Philadelphia in

8:42

kenny tickets I guess. Obviously

8:44

they felt like. Russell.

8:46

Wilson was an upgrade. I know

8:48

there are some reports about you

8:50

know things happening behind the scenes,

8:52

in conversations and how people handle

8:54

things, but now that the back

8:56

up in Philadelphia and he's no

8:59

longer the starting quarterback in Pittsburgh

9:01

after only two years as a

9:03

first round pick, right? it doesn't

9:05

happen very often, specially for guy

9:07

that editing played that poorly. I'm

9:09

where are you at right Now

9:11

with Kenny picked it. Well.

9:14

For whatever reason Rice and we're not

9:16

in the building. But for whatever reason

9:18

Kenny pick it was an uncomfortable player

9:20

in Pittsburgh. He had some moments but

9:22

he looked nothing like he did his

9:24

senior year at Penn. and again he

9:26

was my number one quarterback coming out

9:29

in their draft on I did not

9:31

think the I'd. Be. Reached for

9:33

him at the twentieth. Take some do

9:35

and that's okay. You know people we

9:37

can disagree on? Ah,

9:39

But. He just did the traits

9:42

he showed in college. Did.

9:44

Not show up with any level of

9:46

consistency in the Nfl with Pittsburgh. He

9:49

just looked uncomfortable and again we do

9:51

not know why. So they obviously decided

9:53

that it was not going to work

9:55

and that the in their mind that

9:58

they needed an upgrade. Now. No

10:00

in Philadelphia, Pick it, will be the back

10:02

up and. We'll. See if

10:04

you know Jalen Hurd plays all seventeen

10:06

games. Obviously that's with the Eagles would

10:08

want, but we'll see, but he just.

10:11

You. Know he was his ball. Location was

10:13

really problematic and that was not the

10:15

case at all in college and and

10:17

are very often that speaks to just

10:19

not being confident delivering the football. Wow.

10:22

That's interesting. Yeah is. you know you

10:24

wouldn't think that that would be the

10:26

issue, right? Like if if it was so

10:29

good at Pitt. I'm.

10:31

May. Wasn't the stadium and up?

10:34

A peasant and. I you

10:36

know what? You know me with coaches I

10:38

don't I don't like to read coaches I

10:40

don't do that. but I would say that

10:42

their offense under my canada was not and

10:44

i hate use this cause shade term but.

10:47

What? The to work for now it

10:49

was not a quarterback. Finally athens it

10:51

didn't give the quarterback. you know. Defined

10:54

relatively easy throws by

10:56

Nfl standards. God.

11:00

While. They got Arthur Smith there now. Ah,

11:03

And they got Russell Wilson.

11:05

And just in fields they're

11:08

saying Russell Wilson is the

11:10

starter. You. Know I didn't

11:12

play that bad in Denver last year. Greg Amy

11:14

What it? what did you see for most of

11:16

us last year and the center of what do

11:18

you think with him and Arthur Smith. I've got

11:21

a couple of things and I have a question

11:23

for you. believe it or not after I mention

11:25

was and I think the reason Wilson ah was

11:27

not a Sean Payton guys because at his core

11:30

Russell Wilson is not a timing and rhythm player

11:32

and and it's going to be very interesting now.

11:34

had a fit that in to what they want

11:36

to do in Pittsburgh because you know they want

11:39

to start with the run game act the way

11:41

my. Tomlin wants to play for sure

11:43

and at the office Miss background is

11:45

in. Oh see in this league and

11:47

a head coach is he wants to

11:49

run the football and so they're gonna

11:52

start with energy Harris into and worn

11:54

that's going to be the foundation isn't

11:56

a worth a play action pass game

11:58

which theoretically defines throws the quarterback and

12:00

allows him to play with a more

12:03

rhythmic feel. That's what they hope with

12:05

Russell Wilson, he can still throw the

12:07

ball. He's just not at his poor

12:09

timing and rhythm player so you want

12:11

to try to get him to play

12:14

that way it as best as you

12:16

can. So my question for you exists.

12:18

Do you think Based on everything we

12:20

read that no one in the Nfl

12:22

so I just in fields as a

12:25

starting quarterback. Ah,

12:28

I think that there are concerns

12:30

about field. I think it's fascinating.

12:32

I don't want their. I think

12:34

there are concerns about fields. I was

12:36

in much as the other day.

12:38

gray. Know we talk about traits,

12:40

right? Tell. Me if I'm wrong on

12:42

any of these things. Fields.

12:45

Is bigger than cave a boy.

12:47

Hims. Feals. Is

12:49

faster than Caleb Williams. And

12:52

I would argue Fields has a stronger arm.

12:55

They. Can blame we all saw

12:57

the pro Day yesterday or cowboy

12:59

hims do a bomb. The field

13:01

has an absolute hose yeah at

13:03

times so. I. Think it's

13:05

funny. When. People's out

13:08

of it to trade space teammate.

13:10

They draft guys based on traits I

13:12

don't know. Bigger, faster, stronger, bigger

13:14

arm. I mean as a lot. It's

13:16

right there. I think what it says

13:19

the me Greg is that those

13:21

traits are not the most important mom

13:23

were talking about that position. And.

13:25

There's no question Ross that he does

13:28

struggled to see things with the speed

13:30

and clarity that you ideally want. But

13:32

and again, that shows up on tape.

13:34

That's not an opinion that's not interpretations

13:37

that clearly shows up on take off.

13:40

And again. In. On that the

13:42

guy trading for him and I met the guy

13:44

having to do this. but it just struck me

13:46

as odd that every three years in the lead.

13:49

Seemingly. So people have

13:51

decided that this guy ten not

13:53

play and. You know, maybe ten?

13:55

Or you know, guess I don't know the answer. This

13:57

people are smarter than you and I am a quarter.

14:00

They are making these decisions and this

14:02

is the decision that seemingly has been

14:04

made in the league's as of right

14:06

now at your Point is really good.

14:08

I mean this guy is a high

14:10

level traits guy who's only played three

14:12

years in the league, right? three as

14:14

a separate. Yeah. Yeah. And.

14:17

They've decided with all these trades

14:19

and with it a situation in

14:21

Chicago that was probably not. Viewed.

14:24

As ideal for the the for the

14:26

development of a quarterback that this guy

14:28

just can't play at all as a

14:30

starting quarterbacks. Like you said, it's really

14:32

fascinating. Yeah. So so the way

14:34

I look at it I guess. Is.

14:37

Atlanta, the spots where he could have

14:40

gone right A is probably not going

14:42

to go. To. The top three

14:44

teams the top three packs because they like

14:46

the rookies are. I get that. And

14:49

then Atlanta. Or they could get Kirk

14:51

cousins. Okay, I think what's interesting. Is

14:55

that a team like Minnesota Or

14:57

some other teams? Or even The

14:59

Raiders right? I mean, the fact.

15:02

That. Lucchesi. The.

15:04

Bears o sea. Is

15:06

now The Raiders? Oh so Yeah.

15:09

And. That they would rather

15:11

bring in gardener Menchu. Then.

15:14

Just in fields. That.

15:17

Is telling to meet right? Now.

15:19

And and muslims I did that Bears Falcons

15:22

game right? Yeah, And. We

15:24

talked about earlier and get

15:26

see Raved. About just

15:29

and fields work ethic. And

15:31

says nobody works harder than him.

15:34

Which I think is an interesting point. To.

15:37

Make at times in life break

15:39

you know? We. All

15:41

wanna believe? That.

15:44

If. You simply work hard enough.

15:47

You can achieve what you

15:49

want, right? The. Reality

15:51

is that is that true?

15:54

You. Know, I mean like you can

15:56

maximize. Your ability.

15:59

But. i would say because of my

16:01

arm length and because

16:03

of my athletic limitations, no

16:06

matter how hard I worked, I

16:09

would never have been a pro

16:11

bowl caliber offensive tackle in the NFL. It doesn't matter

16:13

how hard I work. You know what I mean? You're

16:15

going to be putting Nelson Ross no matter what? Yeah

16:18

exactly. I think that needs to be said sometimes because get

16:25

he raved about

16:27

fieldwork ethic. He's by

16:29

all accounts a great young man. He's got

16:32

all these rates but I

16:34

think there's a belief Greg that

16:36

the things that he struggles with,

16:39

it doesn't really matter how hard you

16:41

work or how hard you try. It's

16:44

just not something that comes naturally for

16:47

him. Right and so clearly there's

16:49

a belief right now that that can't

16:51

be fixed as

16:53

we speak today. So

16:55

that's where we stand and

16:58

that's what the league thinks. By the way just

17:00

as an aside, I think there's

17:02

a decent chance he plays a lot in Pittsburgh

17:05

and runs the ball a lot

17:08

because Tomlin's not afraid to have a

17:10

quarterback run the rock a bunch and add

17:12

that element to it. So I

17:14

can see that. A couple ones I want to ask you

17:16

about Greg. The

17:18

Eagles went out of character a little

17:21

bit. They're spending pretty big

17:23

money at running back for

17:25

Saquon Barkley. What

17:28

was your reaction? I don't know. I've

17:30

talked to you about this. It was

17:32

obviously a while ago now but last

17:34

week we talked about the receivers. Your

17:36

thoughts on the Eagles paying big money

17:38

for Saquon? Yeah very

17:40

interesting and it makes me think and we don't

17:42

know any of this now you know in March

17:45

but it leads me to

17:47

believe is there going to be a little bit

17:50

of a change in their offensive approach with the

17:52

new coordinator and Kellen Moore. In other words is

17:54

the offense not necessarily going to run through Jalen

17:56

Hurts. You know when you do a deep dive

17:58

on Jalen Hurts tape for from a year ago,

18:01

which I've done, then you see that there

18:03

were some concerns that did crop up. And

18:05

again, it's not to say he's not a

18:07

good NFL quarterback, but it's a coach's job

18:09

to study everything in great detail and really

18:11

see what a player is and what he

18:13

is and what he does well, what he

18:15

doesn't do well. And I think

18:17

when you do that with Hertz, there are some things

18:19

that showed up that may be with a new coordinator,

18:21

because you know when a new coach comes in, they

18:24

look at every single play, that's what they do, and

18:26

they look at them more than once. And they may

18:28

have decided that, you know what, we

18:30

need the run game. And by the way,

18:32

Hertz is a factor in the run game.

18:34

That's a critical point here to be made.

18:37

Hertz is a factor in the run game.

18:39

They may feel that the run game needs

18:41

to be a bigger piece of their offense

18:43

and that they want to back that theoretically

18:46

and maybe even practically during the season can

18:48

carry the ball 18, 20 times every week

18:52

and can be much more a foundational piece

18:54

of what they're going to do on offense.

18:57

Wow. Yeah, I mean, it probably

19:01

doesn't make sense for them to spend that much

19:03

money unless they're thinking that, right? No, I mean,

19:05

you're not signing Barkley Ross to give him the

19:07

ball given weeks, seven times. You're not doing that.

19:11

No, that's true. And I don't think that they

19:13

felt like the last couple of years they had

19:15

a three down guy. No, and

19:17

I think, well, I think Sanders had the

19:19

really good year before he left and obviously

19:22

did not have a good year with Carolina,

19:24

got hurt, but the year prior, Sanders did

19:26

carry about 250 plus times. I don't know

19:28

the exact number, but he was, there were

19:30

games that he carried clearly over 20 times

19:34

and that offense was better that

19:36

year. You know, everybody focused on

19:38

hurts, deservedly so. In 2022, hurts

19:40

had a phenomenal season, but

19:43

lost in the hurts season

19:45

was the fact that Sanders had over 250 carries

19:48

and was a big time piece of that

19:50

offense. Greg, a couple of receivers

19:52

I got to ask you about, I'm dying. Alabama

19:55

guys, Calvin Ridley got

19:58

huge money from the NSTP. Okay,

20:01

and as I'll talk about money, the

20:03

money is the money. But they're saying

20:05

he's a number one receiver. They're saying

20:07

he's a top ten receiver. Do see

20:09

that from him. At. Times Yes

20:11

at times on the one thing he

20:13

can do with they have not had

20:15

for a long time they the receiver

20:18

that can regulate the defense because he

20:20

has vertical ability and when regulate the

20:22

defense means that you can help dictate

20:24

covered. So now you increase the value

20:26

of Deandre Hopkins is getting older and

20:28

certainly doesn't have the same goosey had

20:30

five or six years ago but still

20:32

catches everything. They're very hopeful the trail

20:34

on births in his third year can

20:36

develop into something. Yeah, he's the heard

20:38

a lot and has been on the

20:40

field. And their pasts game because they

20:42

are aligned with so poor as was not

20:44

very good are they need to address Ivy

20:47

see their along But Ridley is a. Great.

20:49

Route Runner. He can. what the intermediate

20:52

and vertical levels of the field? Well,

20:54

I'm and yeah, he's again. you said

20:56

the money's the money. But he's He's

20:58

a really good receiver when he's at

21:01

his best. Of the last

21:03

with a jury duty as he got big

21:05

money from Cleveland this week. I

21:07

know I saw that. I've always loved jury

21:10

duty and people did say have this point.

21:12

I've been wrong every time I watched the

21:14

Did Did Denver tape. The guy runs great

21:16

routes and gets open up Now I don't

21:19

think he's a vertical dimension. I don't think

21:21

he's an explosive player. I think he's

21:23

one of those Really can be a really

21:25

really solid kind of one. A number to

21:28

type on. Our needs to stay

21:30

on the field but you know he has

21:32

not been in a great situation in Denver

21:34

there and and get hurt a lot again

21:36

you know he sees a little thin frames

21:38

so he's got to stay on the field.

21:40

Will see it. First off we don't really

21:42

know about the quarterback situation in Cleveland. I

21:44

mean it's gonna be to Sean Watson but

21:46

a guy essential. He hasn't played the to

21:48

a year frosts so we have no idea.

21:52

Check. Him out on social media. He's

21:54

the man! I have never taken so

21:56

many notes in my life while I'm

21:59

talking with a. other human being. I feel

22:01

like I'm in college. Greg, I love you

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22:09

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New York. Alright

23:03

Ross, there is an arrest warrant issued

23:06

for Lions cornerback Cam Sutton

23:08

for aggravated battery and domestic violence and

23:10

then the defensive end Romeo Aquara. He

23:12

retired after eight seasons in the league.

23:15

Yeah, it's interesting when guys retire a

23:18

few weeks in the free agency. It

23:20

always makes you wonder what exactly is going

23:23

on there but I think he

23:25

just you know eight years is a

23:27

long time and other things he wants to

23:29

do with his life. The Cam Sutton situation

23:31

is not good. It came

23:33

out yesterday and it sounds like they've

23:36

been, this warrant's been

23:38

out for his arrest for two weeks and

23:41

they haven't found him or got him. That doesn't

23:43

sound real good. We got

23:45

a couple of signings and contract moves across

23:47

the league. New Saints defensive end Chase Young

23:50

actually just got five million guaranteed. The other

23:52

eight million is tied into per game roster

23:54

bonuses and running back Deonta Foreman. He signs

23:56

with the Cleveland Browns. Right,

23:58

so Mickey Loomis the Saints. Jeff Ireland,

24:00

that makes some more sense, right? Like

24:02

you don't give a guy $13 million

24:04

fully guaranteed the day before neck surgery.

24:07

So 5 million fully guaranteed. And

24:09

then the other rate he's got to play in the games. That

24:12

makes a little bit more sense to me. And

24:14

I don't know, I thought the Aunty Foreman did good

24:16

things for the Browns, for the, for the Bears last

24:18

year. I'm excited to see them in Cleveland. They need

24:20

to have a good backup there. And

24:22

hip, trucking, hip, drop and kickoff proposals from

24:25

the competition committee will be discussed at the

24:27

owners meetings next week. You

24:29

know, I might talk about this more

24:31

on Monday show. I don't know. I

24:34

guess I never liked to

24:36

talk about it too much until it's actually

24:38

happening. But these are

24:41

interesting. The NFL PA has already came

24:43

out and they are opposed to

24:45

this hip drop tackle ban.

24:48

Um, it's hard to define. I

24:50

think it's like, what do

24:53

they say? It's like porno. You kind of know

24:55

what it is when you see it. That's, that's

24:57

what they do with the hip drop. The

24:59

kickoff proposals. Very, very

25:01

unique. They're trying to keep it

25:04

in the game. Uh, but the biggest issue there

25:06

is it takes away the surprise on side. There's

25:08

a lot to get to. I might talk about

25:10

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