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you don't hear the sting behind their words until much
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later, when aerys was growing
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up in Hubei, Province in China, her teacher
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with single her. out my teacher
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she would you say your feet
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are he was smart both
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a brace was so good this was
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because she was had working
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this is supposed to be praise she
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didn't mean to hardly i
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sell both was really hurt
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the
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the lesson that eris drew from there was
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a failure which is one miss alarm
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clock away and her mom had an
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expression the me burners
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the early birds has something to
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the phrase it i know is the early bird catches
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the worm yeah yeah he's
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simulate years
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later when eris would grow up to become
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a high school teacher herself she
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didn't want to seem or students into working hard
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but she worried their students didn't seem to have
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that work ethic needed for the grueling high
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school exams the can decide your future
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career for students were only five
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years younger than her but already felt like a different
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when i was a students i was very
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obedient maybe because we
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have fewer temptations like
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mobile phones or video games
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they have so much temptation
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though they didn't learn hard
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so air as gave herself homework
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she would play video games league
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of legends l l and
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read the sports pages
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oh did you know that someone
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has landed campaign he wanted to
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motivator students by connecting with
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them so
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they've been my students are
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interested
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then one day she remembers the bell
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rang the classes still noisy and
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she'd asked one boy to sit down and resume
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studying the just looked at her
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and he said no the
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the i dashed off the he was
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was he doing and then
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she said
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at houston because of the law to finish
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to propel the law and
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disgrace he says
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i were not daddy i will become a boss
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in the i will not work for others
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then an unfamiliar accent notwithstanding
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memory the student seller oh
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it's a new joke on line
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and she thinks okay this is
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something my students are connecting with the i need
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to know about it that night
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she looked it up
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coming out with , his own meals
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and knew what he finds his this video
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source of he said so that she later
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learned was causing lots of people in china
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to rethink all those lessons about working
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hard that heiress heard as heard kid
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at the video this guy said he
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is handcuffed to the
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bars on the wall the police station
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somewhere
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we first heard the story from and the are seizing corresponded
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emily saying
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judging by his accent he is in southern
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china has hair
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is gonna disheveled as disheveled as are going all
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over the place and turns out
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he's jailed because he'd been caught
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stealing scooters the by cnn
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it seems to have been filmed on a local television
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station
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and in this video interview whoever
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is asking the questions i'm says
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why do you keep stealing scooters i can't
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you get a real job i'm not
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limited by people that the guy in the video
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the guy's been arrested says working
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in this life this impossible for me it's
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impossible for me to work this
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is the braves and seventy the the
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eris first heard from her student
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i saw it and that realized it was
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from a thief
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the feet with apparently millions
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of followers across china he's
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not playing about a specific job
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right you're talking about working general and
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the fact that he won't do it at all he's
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not suited to it at all and that
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was really what struck a chord with people
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this is rough translation of gregory
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warner said ,
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of ricochet across twenties work sites
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and offices today the show
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how a scooter cease became an icon
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for brewing discontent and why
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some guy saying it's didn't want to work anymore
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game to be seen by the state as such a
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thread and he says my office
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so the police officers officers this
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story the government uses surveillance and
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censorship to try to stamp out stamp
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see how that's working for them scooter
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thief and what he unleashed among chinese
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use from tech high
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school students even to a high
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school teacher. oh he was amazed
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a with a rock show yeah then
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it is why that video games to mean
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so much in china we're
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going to start with a cultural phenomenon known
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as song
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i usually first noticed some because
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, a bubble tea shop chain
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and they specialize in making drinks
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that had really long and elaborate name set
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all reference some universal
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problem that was very song for example
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like my exes life
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is better than mine fruit tea
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or as achieves
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absolutely nothing black tea
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and i was discussing it one day with my producer
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in beijing hollins have issues ago
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yes i'm actually there's this guy
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went to high school as he started a sample
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trip fuel and they're all
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about some
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the you enter the show
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now we've been i've been in the lighthouse
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and schengen
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there are probably two
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, people showed up which is a good
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crowd for thursday thursday
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one thing that really struck me as everyone
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was sitting down at the beginning of the of the
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life has set up all these chairs
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lining the perimeter of the rim
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and people are sweeping
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worse lot of people with their heads i
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and other people shoulders
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thunder took a male palermo
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obama monotonous on
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i started talking to somebody people like
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why would you come out a way to a rock show
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alive house and then just ticket
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the
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and everyone was like whoa and tires
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and same as a matter if
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, is is as like
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as party for exhausted deeper
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completely fake she
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, have a special city because it's
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china's technology to hub it's basically
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try to silicon valley and all these really hot
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new startup there there there's something
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called nine something called in china yeah
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a fortune from nine am to nine pm sixty
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three technically now
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illegal
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practice nurse tech companies do
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this and shinjin is notorious for
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nine nine six
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but it turns out that been exhausted least
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in this crowd come up with a membership
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card in a club known as song
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the phone is an actual chinese character
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which can be combined and various races
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it just means the process or
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tragic in general sad
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the fact that people feel at her work is
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pointless they're simply going
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through the motions to just get through the
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everyday and a job
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the show so he picks up ships yours
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is the last actually prefer him
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most of their fans are between the ages is
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like twenty to thirty somethings
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a , of them are working white collar job
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which might be procedures that don't
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often pay that much and china and
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even though labor laws are starting to get a little
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bit more strict is
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hey
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they have no personal time as their own
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they're often only children so they thought
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financial burdens to make sure that they can take
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care of your older relatives the
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band members seal this you know they're struggling with
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the same issues but issues think that's also
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what connects them to their fans
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their lyrics are about watching
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your life happens
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i've
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been a passenger in your life and watching
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in your dreams though he dies so
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the lead singer of the bands
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the manager chance that's his
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stage name and his actual job title
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he that manager he manages financial
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products and or as it is as the
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provincial bank creepy and
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never act he he pauses and between
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two songs and he says thank you all
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for coming to his fans think it at the band members
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but also thank you to my bank manager is for
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letting me be here and everyone kind
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of laughs and applauds because they
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like as part of a stick
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a bunch of tech workers nodding
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off at a math rock show mina seem
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like a big threat for the chinese government to
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stress about but when we are talking
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to eris for high school teacher she said
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she would not go to one of these concerts doesn't
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like with some culture represents
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you are sir bradley
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negative energy
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negative energy is something the government has
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been campaigning against for years
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in areas says there's something shameful that
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sharing how exhausted you are
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when you say that you are tired of
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his side are you might be
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we the others when you might
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not be suitable for job
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that's just the job you're hired for but the bigger
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job of building china lake
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aren't you could see the
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development of painter the
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the
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the propeller the propeller
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be fine development is
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each chinese people's efforts the
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principle that was ingrained in era since primary
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school
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the new china needs everyone to work hard
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to build up the country though
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she wasn't admitting it harris was
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really exhausted the hard
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working as she was a teacher the
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wasn't the career she wanted for self
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repair and said pressure to getting your teaching
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degree additionally
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it's considered to be a great job
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for
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for girl to become a teacher he
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means you have more time to
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take healthy or children and your family
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repairing the know
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up so we
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should be grateful for their
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efforts so
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what their own they should also
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take care of them is
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that other dreams for what she wanted for career
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that she got he had a duty to obey her
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parents how
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i tried to be a good teacher
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and i'm a weird as weird have
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to work hard for my
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students and the for my responsibility
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and eat dog and a series
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calm them that calm calm and
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just don't forget to do
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what i need to do right now there
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is a living with their parents then
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most nights she leave school at nine pm
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take the bus home and wake
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up at six thirty to take the bus back to school
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he didn't see any way which
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is why she was so intrigued by that
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video the arrested scooter thief being asked
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by local journalist
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why don't you just get a job mechanic
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not limited by the book hundred thousand iowa
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he says it's and
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what everyone wants to do
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but they're smart too
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that video give heiress away to talk
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about those bad feelings in the
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form of a sheer joke
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but i sometimes when i when i do
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feel good and then i
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don't want to work father's today
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right i said oh he was
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amazing he was so brave
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and i didn't want to go to prison so
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i just working for you today
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like i would follow his example but i don't
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want to be entails so i'll just keep
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my job
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yeah yeah yeah size
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is like a joke was a
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joke the letter talk about these abu
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feelings or on giving being
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irresponsible
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the who was this guy the scooters
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the guy in the video is the miss joly
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team when he says
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that moment of my people can work
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in the bible impossible for me was
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a real besides the only way to live
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is by stealing things i feel
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like she's an aside i like
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coming to jail as been arrested so many times
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going to jail as like coming back home or
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yoda his same there's no way that
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i could ever work in his life the
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guy
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after the video explains it
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, an entire sub culture as
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phillies he send them a
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splice a original interview
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and they said it too corny retro
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music need to protect
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the be joe and mean this on
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his philosophy the posting
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rebellious accept they've done in their daily
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lives and citing to lead she has their inspiration
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online forums discussing about how
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people can best slap for close
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to home
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making it seem like they're doing what they're supposed to be doing
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is , people start of a tasting
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his cartoon as
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him saturated that saturated looks
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like that same as poster che guevara opera
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guy my early my buddy out
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of were communists argentinian guerrilla
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fighters
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he does actually look a little bit like actually
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looks a lot like take his horror you've
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, the same gonna like peaked eyebrows
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starts long hair hair
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, he's got this express he
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did less thing to have people
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sir calling him yet guevara
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see it being the trains were for young
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meanwhile jealous else is still behind
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bars and yeah was no internet
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me is no idea this is happening
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even there for the fourth time for stealing scooters
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surprise surprise the in a string
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of twenty twenty these about to be released or
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what is that he is or and idols like
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he has in his final day before coming
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home or finally our
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our leader comes back to us
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the ironic thing about joe becoming a slacker
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hero for young white collar workers that
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he had started working at a much earlier age
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than most of his fans had to and
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in much greater your job
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he was born to a really poor family and rules
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on c and he
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quit school and years and third grade she has
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done construction jobs and some
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menial jobs smoking break
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in various factories across gumshoe province
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the know why why was his family stuck
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in the bottom mother
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has always had some an
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illness where she's not able to work very
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regularly his father is
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physically very ill so as not able
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to to labour to go out like most
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men in the village and do construction work
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and earn a steady wage every
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time he got out of jail and he went back home
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his home was just was run down as
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it was before where is everyone else in the
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village was building up their homes and
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modernizing them
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anything when he says you know
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i don't want to go that home jealous better
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i think he's referring to the fact that he feels a
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sense of failure that ,
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home his family has not kept
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has not kept pace to the way the
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rest of china is developing
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they would become an icon for people that wanted to opt
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out of the rat race for the real job
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was more like you've been left behind the
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train is grocery
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jody she emerges from prison at
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six thirty in the morning on april eighteenth
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twenty twenty to put this in perspective
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endemic lockdowns of only recently
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ended inter province travel is
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still heavily restricted outside
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the prison though he finds a cloud
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offense
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quarter is and well wishers waiting
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outside the prison for him also
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telescope
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offering him up to half a million us
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dollars to be their brand ambassador
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and to sell products for them online and
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the police who do not like all this attention
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he is getting one that fits
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they were going away they bring him to the local
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police station his home town then please
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give him talk the what is gonna happen
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we're back with rough translation and
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our new season at work gregory
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water the morning joe
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his release from prison the police to them down
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at a table in the police station and they give him
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a talk i talked to his immediately
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posted online with a soundtrack are
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like lesson
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we know you're a bad guy you done a lot of
19:16
bad things in your life size we trust
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that you're gonna do the right the thing from here on for
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it the hollywood hills
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are not something you given the a good
19:25
influence in society right he the
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out for those of if i do gooding
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the if i guess i've learned my lesson and nephews
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still scooters again i just wanna live a quiet
19:34
life and far
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later that
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immediately and i first day out
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you've been approached by talent scouts wanted
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to go and videos and hoc products
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and they're offering sums of money for one appearance
19:49
in one video that are astronomically
19:51
higher than anything joe is made in an entire
19:54
year of labor
19:55
oh you've lived companies are like please please
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i can you sign up as are branded acids
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there will be hundreds of strangers penning to
20:02
his house bringing and guess expensive
20:04
gifts and trying to sign up for these brand deals
20:09
he told them no and he says
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nope i said it before i will not work
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for any one signing a contract means
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i would become their employees and that was
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eating my
20:18
while maintaining a bible know it's
20:20
illusion subtlety
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and you can hear one reporter asked in joe
20:25
seriously are you sure that you're not
20:27
going to take these deals even a stick with that
20:29
decision to bush's of them didn't know what
20:31
life's dream was is it's actually really lucrative
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as a prison sentence is really surprised
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he's turned these companies down and
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and that becomes viral to because people see
20:40
that refusal to work for
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and internet marketing agency as proof
20:45
that joe is sticking to his principles of
20:47
are all these years in prison
20:49
in this feels jos reputation as
20:51
an anti worked icon and the authorities
20:54
seems to be nervous and wasn't much
20:56
that be a chinese ministry
20:58
comes out and said jelly she has been
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blacklisted nobody can ever worked
21:02
with him he has a bad social influence
21:05
and know if we paying any attention them why
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are we giving a convicted felon
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and a cease all of our attention is
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a bad
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two months go by and then he opens
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up his own accounts and post
21:18
this video
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it's it's him facing the cameras and
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he says i apologize i did some
21:24
bad things he says he's learned
21:26
that they're young people who are copying his behavior
21:29
and learning from him and he tells them don't
21:32
copy and they just mind your own business and live your own
21:34
life well
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she was human ,
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i'm sorry to see this to
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see
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the pie chasing the people who a solid
21:45
him for all these years
21:47
what do you have to love with own is apologizing
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to his fans
21:50
yep he must apologize to his family for not
21:52
being there for them yeah
21:55
yeah
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the journalism open houses
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implemented that he is he's apologizing to this woman
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who he apparently lost
22:04
like though because he wasn't at
22:06
the person at the time
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and anybody else other videos all
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about like studying hard so
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do i don't there's
22:18
a video he breaks up a card game some
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from president
22:22
the watson he grabs the cars and he throws
22:24
and to the side and he says were you doing
22:27
i'm talking to you and you to devices
22:29
he said he does he to work
22:32
the become the productivity police
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yeah you know they're all these areas that you have to do
22:37
you haven't so that your car with gas you're
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really not the type of person i know you're not the same person
22:42
the christopher's fans was what type
22:45
of person is joe the
22:47
still the i kind of slacking off who
22:49
turned down hundreds of thousands of dollars and brand
22:52
deals because he did not want to work for others
22:54
or busy this new moralists
22:57
promoting status quo fans
23:00
are confused
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i went when he does a livestream like
23:03
an online talk with the local
23:05
police station to tell
23:08
people to behave and behave upright citizen
23:10
emily basis of scrutinizing these
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work evangelist videos trying
23:14
to figure out is this the real joe or
23:17
was there someone just outside the frame
23:20
of these videos making me and say
23:22
these things
23:26
and all of a sudden i learned that he's open to barbecue
23:28
joint in his home province
23:31
the joe has become a boss
23:34
yeah we just called him his restaurant
23:36
and and he's there every night like
23:38
around eight pm on once but he won't be
23:40
phone interviews
23:41
apparently a lot of people called the restaurant asking a top
23:43
ten over the phone so someplace
23:45
like know we just guy come here you're very
23:48
welcome to hang out with him as long as he bar food
23:50
the only know and fly down to the province
23:52
of one she they check into a hotel
23:55
not really knowing what version of joe they're going to
23:57
meet that night will he be the slacker
23:59
hero the old where this virtuous
24:01
joe of late and then
24:04
they get to the restaurant i
24:06
you knew it has restaurant because that
24:08
was a giant picture as his face dressed
24:10
up as che guevara the friends the
24:13
motor didn't
24:16
hi
24:19
so it's like the retina in
24:21
there and it's covered with posters the
24:24
was slogans like
24:26
the other is her life
24:28
is a good beer and a good barbecue
24:31
and puns about drinking essentially
24:33
a cookie notice it is all men like
24:35
were the only woman and is to
24:38
for restaurant
24:39
shouting and as people like shagging
24:41
beers it's like of his cables
24:44
and tables as man who are taking off their shirts
24:47
because they're setting from eating so much and as
24:49
the games it as rocket as many empty beer bottles
24:51
of possible
24:54
the as a waiter you know like is
24:56
though here is mr jones is the home
24:58
boss joe bosco here so
25:01
, santa and
25:03
that i think she needed mistakes as
25:05
for like them
25:07
some might get ceaseless serious
25:09
the get an autograph or something and happens
25:11
a lot san still come to the restaurant
25:14
and he is he is mobbed on the regular
25:16
by people who wanna take celsius with him
25:18
they meet the news vans and they learned that despite
25:20
to his apology videos and all his
25:22
hard work videos that he did after prison
25:25
the fans are here because of his original video that
25:29
, what he's still famous for for
25:32
, of emily and hours
25:34
sit down hours dinner or why
25:36
are we talked to more fans licensing
25:39
some minor say we
25:41
some more
25:43
no money no
25:46
clothes
25:51
oh and and i just kind of sat there until
25:53
midnight whole thing that bosco which
25:57
he never did we were
26:00
dad from having traveled down there early
26:02
that morning we actually lesson know
26:04
explaining that we're reporters and ha of
26:06
land interview him from the cash
26:10
the go back to the hotel
26:12
and then late that night pick your a knock
26:14
at their hotel room door the
26:16
police we've got to see your passport
26:18
suppose it prevention reasons
26:20
i don't know why the police would have to come by to check
26:22
your documents at two am
26:24
we are it i gave my passport and he scanned it and send
26:26
a picture to the police on eight or ten per chinese
26:28
law way that assume actual ask for
26:31
any and i just went on and on circles and eventually
26:33
give it to them but i realize
26:35
if they probably has been keeping tabs on us
26:39
the next night their back at a barbecue choice
26:42
we fucked up to his office nothing
26:45
a store hoping that he would be there
26:48
indeed he was so
26:50
, opens the door and he looks exactly
26:52
like like he looks
26:54
and obvious that ios i'd lost his him his
26:57
he's got long dark hair he's got the death
26:59
eyebrows but
27:02
he looks really focused
27:04
the super serious and he
27:06
immediately agrees us to says
27:09
what my dc size when
27:12
rough translation returns the
27:14
past year
27:23
support for npr and the following message
27:26
come from thorns rest of aerosol lack
27:28
of sleep and daily stressors can speed
27:30
up the aging process thorns rest of
27:32
the carousel is designed to offset the symptoms
27:35
of early aging by featuring a combination
27:37
of nicotine mit right beside and other a
27:53
this is rough translation and gregory warner
27:56
back to our story with emily saying emily saying barbecue
27:58
joints joe finally shown
28:00
up for his interview but something isn't
28:03
right
28:04
a new we are any brings us to another
28:06
side room and he says of has has actually
28:08
got a really important meeting a my office right
28:10
now keegan
28:12
you feel like ten to twelve
28:14
guys i thought he was in a business meeting
28:17
so we say no problem dear meeting will be
28:19
outside having dinner me this afterward what
28:22
hot one the
28:28
barbecue place
28:30
come that about half an hour later looking
28:33
even more harried even more stressed
28:36
as my office is so the police officers
28:38
they suddenly came by to do with fire inspection
28:40
of the restaurant and then
28:42
before that i got this random call
28:45
from someone who said he worked in state security
28:47
services like china
28:50
image in the cia and as be i sang
28:53
to reporters from beijing were going to come
28:55
down and try to interview me and
28:57
i suppose you refuse at all costs
29:00
and as he sang this he sits down
29:02
and he gets he phone call phone his why
29:05
and
29:05
from the same state security guys i
29:07
can hear him over in the speaker on
29:09
chosen asking
29:11
where are you what are you doing right now for you talking
29:13
to are you in the restaurant and
29:15
joe is completely bewildered he doesn't was going
29:17
on his on his is yes i'm in a restaurant wow
29:19
maybe it's and working hours long
29:26
heavy cat for a little baby tony smart
29:28
heart he still trying to be nice
29:30
and this is the kind of breaks my heart is
29:32
trying to be good host yeah says the as a good time
29:35
to really apologizes that he can't like
29:37
sit down and have a proper drink with us this
29:40
point he goes back to his office
29:42
i don't you
29:51
know after he lasts more people
29:53
started coming in
29:54
addressing are black addressing when
29:56
breakers
30:01
the new diners that came and in order anything
30:03
anything alcoholic drink which
30:05
it stands out when you've got table full
30:08
of men pounding back leaders of beer fuzzy
30:10
math
30:13
i realize that all the people sitting around
30:15
us ah , watching
30:17
us quite closely one of them
30:19
begins filming us with his cellphone camera
30:22
so i think that yes several other
30:24
several number of plainclothes police and that
30:26
and the restaurant with us
30:30
the police course with their because emily was there
30:33
they don't want joe telling her story
30:35
that later when
30:38
emily and oh and get back to beijing
30:40
the realize that the censorship it goes
30:42
deeper a lot of
30:45
the beauty is that people had made
30:48
in two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seven
30:51
don't have been taken down jos original
30:53
viral video was still up but all of the
30:55
creative sabotage videos allows
30:58
the tribute to his slacker dumb empowered
31:00
office workers praising him they
31:02
will find any events so
31:05
this meeting as close
31:08
as though get to jail
31:09
at the very end he came out one last
31:11
time there is a man
31:14
i guess a plainclothes officer kind of holding
31:16
him by the elbow i
31:18
think they wanted to do it show that like so
31:20
sign his out and about he's totally normal
31:23
this is it totally regular evening for
31:25
him without
31:27
, reason
31:29
wants to take wants to with show and he like normally
31:32
would and he said on intrusive for always
31:34
takes pictures of sense that he hesitates then
31:37
he he didn't
31:39
want to say no but lead
31:41
well as several times and finally he
31:43
is like sure okay he has changed
31:45
the law says so he was so
31:47
carefree and as he was like
31:51
, years ago we get another restaurant
31:53
and suicide suicide
31:55
a completely different guys from the from
31:58
, tears as the videos that
32:08
oh we hear your home
32:11
, i've i've
32:13
him since he was
32:15
so sad now
32:26
ironically right he may have been more free to
32:28
do whatever he wanted back when he was
32:30
a scooter sees the now
32:35
so why is all this extra scrutiny
32:38
on joe happening now
32:40
this is playing out in the midst of the
32:42
global for another is pandemic and
32:44
china wants to put
32:47
on this image that it's controlled the pandemic it's economy
32:49
has bounced back
32:52
and to some extent
32:54
it has
32:55
the country is still hurting i mean a lot of people
32:58
are still at a jobs and so this is the time
33:00
when a local government the central
33:02
government they need people to stop thinking people
33:04
to
33:05
after having our babies and producing the future
33:07
generation of workers they need people to work
33:10
more they need people to manufacture methods
33:12
they can export to the u s dany
33:14
, to be paying their
33:17
taxes i mean the engine that is
33:19
the chinese economy needs to be running more
33:21
efficiently than ever and so
33:24
people like to lead see i
33:26
think that feels particularly dangerous now
33:33
you will never know what might
33:36
happen to you know moment
33:38
harris spent locked down and her own apartment
33:41
she moved away from her parents and
33:43
for the first time she had lots of time alone
33:46
the so if
33:48
i die right now
33:50
i would a sale very angry
33:53
because i didn't leave
33:55
for aires right now the
33:57
thought about the rules of society as
34:00
the few of them made sense
34:01
she wanted to learn the logic behind those rules
34:04
and that turned into a desire to study
34:06
law which is what she decided to do
34:09
they decided to
34:13
to be teaching and enroll in moscow
34:15
i mean keep my lesson
34:18
we are , august
34:21
but she wasn't the seller paris for not yet
34:23
when i am a meeting i was held
34:25
up as my plane
34:27
you'll get into law school and
34:30
, when you'll call them up
34:32
and say yeah that's that's
34:35
made this plane more complicated was that she'd say
34:37
the contract when she started teaching school that
34:39
she teach for a minimum of six years or pay
34:41
a fine she saved up enough
34:43
to pay the fine but when she called
34:45
the school and told them this say calls
34:48
her parents she thinks they wanted her
34:50
parents to talk her out of it when
34:53
she came home to face her parents rats
34:56
you realize the situation at home
34:58
was worse than she thought her mom
35:00
told her that she had lost the equivalent of
35:02
fifty thousand dollars gambling then
35:04
she told her her father didn't know any of this he
35:07
was afraid they might get divorced
35:09
unless eris could do something to help
35:11
them here's some of bobby
35:15
did you
35:17
have that kind of money to
35:20
be able to pay us i
35:23
could help her pay that
35:25
that i meant sacrifice
35:28
my own when
35:31
that means moving back hall
35:33
going back to my job and
35:38
i mean have neither
35:41
for me sometimes hurry
35:44
how family i'm
35:47
not sure whether i will have another
35:51
they're not a time of bravery
35:54
i mean i i am already and
35:56
already twenty six the
35:59
liquor one shot the change your career and
36:01
change your life
36:03
the that mean becoming the creative person who failed
36:05
to help her family
36:08
right
36:09
if i have trouble if i
36:11
if at all the other so much
36:13
money the parents will spare no
36:16
effort to pay them
36:18
off for be so he the
36:20
same way i should do the same
36:23
there's there's if in is tough moments
36:26
you ever thought about joe the scooter see then
36:29
she said no
36:30
the jos message had continued to be
36:32
a guiding influence on her decisions the
36:35
way that couldn't really be constrained by
36:37
any censorship the government
36:39
may have silence joe in his restaurant these
36:42
viral video given her point of connection
36:44
with her students then allowed
36:46
her to really talk to them in
36:49
the way to cheat always hoped to do with teacher we
36:51
have a nanny hundred patients
36:54
and day with a shell me with their dreams
36:57
in a building on the students
37:00
were , to pursue their dreams
37:02
and i'm also told them that
37:04
i am think again because they're quebec
37:07
their own decisions that choices than
37:09
that my fear and told me that i
37:11
could also be myself and they told
37:14
me that the most important thing
37:17
it to be happy hurry
37:20
and bleed health i
37:24
just i just feel i just
37:26
feel that removed when i when
37:28
i think of what what one night my
37:30
students told me i
37:33
just i just realized and all
37:35
my life choices they're made
37:38
of maybe
37:40
i can say for to
37:42
forgive or i could understand why
37:45
why this happened now
37:48
i can offer thief i saw anymore
37:51
and big if come into your to
37:53
make the choice that others made me
37:56
a me had i was not responsible
37:58
for my own eyes so
38:01
i think i should be brave
38:04
like tide she
38:07
leave though
38:11
an heiress thought about how to help her mom get out of
38:13
his dead what it meant for to put
38:15
her parents first the thought
38:17
about what her students told her the
38:19
finally i i made owner
38:22
he will sell for the toys
38:25
he decided to just pay ten percent
38:27
of or moans debt like us more help
38:30
and she's moved a second time
38:32
she's not telling your parents or new address
38:36
my parents also need to improve
38:38
that so i mean they also need to learn
38:40
to be responsible for themselves
38:43
there's is using your savings study for law school
38:46
lately since taking a lot about
38:48
that expression the early bird
38:50
has something to the
38:52
that are mom always said i think
38:54
ah is phrase is
38:56
too people you
38:59
have to suffer pain
39:03
if you don't have early
39:05
you will have no one the
39:14
the world some worth make an aldi
39:17
the mornings for some mckenna
39:19
married right
39:26
this is marched the national people's congress
39:28
delegate that china's parliament
39:31
suggested passing laws to
39:33
guard against for sub cultures
39:35
that have had quote icu roading
39:37
effect on the values of young people lgbt
39:40
culture study abroad program
39:43
fan culture and society
39:49
sincerely bellamy three of us for have been
39:51
the subject of rough translation ficus emphasis
39:54
next week on at work we
39:56
go from state sponsored exhaustion to
39:58
state mandated
40:00
the rest are you people ought to
40:02
simply have tier to
40:04
take a break some
40:06
, time storing the birthday
40:08
it's good for they are well be
40:11
be that i just don't buy it
40:14
what happens when you live in a country where it is illegal
40:16
to work for your lunch break from
40:18
iraq
40:19
am i love a
40:21
productive much
40:23
that next week on our series at work
40:32
this episode was produced by just seniors
40:34
with help from abilene the laziness or
40:36
editor and senior supervising producer
40:38
is bruce oster emily ,
40:41
and oh and so are imported from china
40:43
additional reporting by just senior in the
40:46
rough translation team includes the we stress
40:48
cobbler grass and testify elite
40:50
emily bogle is or visuals editor or
40:52
visuals producer is the honest answer
40:55
editorial
40:58
guidance by senior was just
41:00
jang rubber krulwich son across the
41:02
girls and shitty lives john
41:04
ellis composer theme music additional music
41:06
additional first got music and audio network
41:09
mastering by just knew of fact checking
41:11
by james yielded thanks
41:15
to npr is michael ratner and tony cabin
41:17
chief international editor dd skanky and
41:19
senior vice president for programming on your grandmother
41:23
the music you're listening if you right now is trip you
41:25
up from their album departure we
41:27
use their tracks throughout their episode as well big
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thanks to wild records and the whole band and
41:32
especially the manager chen for taking the time
41:34
off work i'm
41:37
gregory warner back next week
41:39
with more at work on rough
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