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Did we get Roz and Moka? Are
0:04
they standing by? Roz and
0:06
Moka join us live. Roz
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and Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz
0:11
and Moka are very famous. Everybody
0:13
talks about them. Roz and
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Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz and Moka.
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We could not miss the chance to
0:20
talk to Roz and Moka. Roz and
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Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz and
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Moka. Roz, Roz and Moka. Roz and
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Moka. Brand spank a new show, so
0:28
if we screw up today, then
0:31
you can yell at Roz. Thanks, bro. Yell at
0:33
the boss. The boss is the one that let
0:35
us loose on these microphones. I'm sure a lot
0:37
of people thought I was out of my mind.
0:39
Two opposites. When did I become the not fun
0:41
guy? I was started from the bottom. My only
0:44
focus was going to be to get on the
0:46
radio. But my problem was is that I had
0:48
such incredible stage fright. Everything about having an audience
0:50
terrified me. And Bill, one of the biggest radio
0:52
shows in the country. Oh, sorry.
0:56
This is the story they've never told. The
0:58
year before we started this show, I was
1:01
in a very different place in my life.
1:03
I was a broken, broken person. The story
1:05
of friendship. Are you serious? Oh
1:08
my god, that's such great news. So this.
1:10
Oh my god, look at me. I'm tearing up.
1:12
That's so good news. Family. I love my wife so
1:14
much. And we're having
1:17
a kid. I've said this since
1:19
the day I met you. You are going to be
1:22
one of the greatest fathers the world
1:24
has ever seen. Thanks, man. Comedy. Ha
1:26
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And
1:29
controversy. All hell broke loose. The stories
1:32
about the boycott. We got a letter
1:34
from like Jay-Z's lawyers. I think it
1:36
would have gotten really nasty. Basically, they
1:38
were going to destroy us. There was
1:40
a massive, massive deal at the time.
1:43
And the pursuit of a shared vision.
1:45
For me, the ultimate goal in everything
1:47
is to just put heart into it.
1:49
All the epic moments. Oh my god,
1:51
breaking news. The tears. No! Are
1:54
you serious? Oh my god. I
1:56
cried a lot. And damn it,
1:59
Morrie. Our producer. every guy mocha
2:01
says his name is always damn it more he's always
2:03
doing something in the studio it's just me off I
2:06
knew that he would be extremely popular
2:08
on the show the waterfalls most important
2:10
thing is made of chocolate germs you
2:14
know a journey of laughter and
2:18
the ridiculous we're going to be flicking
2:20
panties like
2:24
there it is the best
2:27
there ever will be told
2:29
by the people who were there I guess there's
2:31
you know sure there's by the book there there
2:33
was risk so that probably good so that would
2:35
be hot for us if you wanted to I
2:38
was confident that we could get a
2:40
deal here given that they both wanted him so
2:42
badly yet tremendous leverage I would say it is
2:45
a show centered around
2:47
two people who care deeply
2:49
about each other about their
2:52
families and about making you
2:54
laugh and by the ones you've never heard
2:56
on the show until now well my real
2:58
name is DJ climax and it's
3:00
official because that's what my mom calls me
3:03
now 14 years I can
3:05
be brown I can be blue I can
3:07
be fire on the sky thousands of shows
3:09
is mocha virgin I'm
3:11
not a virgin are you sir 10 million
3:14
podcast download oh it's an honor man you
3:16
guys reinstitution I can't believe we got to
3:18
be in the ross
3:20
all of this first show that
3:23
almost never happened I immediately said
3:25
no and I was rushed you
3:27
said no I felt like the show
3:29
had already failed and we hadn't even
3:31
built it yet this is the uncensored
3:34
how I got the reputation for being
3:36
the asshole right and unhinged looking back
3:38
I was an asshole I think that
3:40
mocha is far more of an asshole
3:42
than I am to be honest with
3:44
you history of ross and mocha I
3:46
told you all I was gonna do
3:48
it all you haters suck it suck
3:50
it suck it suck it suck it
3:53
suck it walk one fighting
4:00
for their place in the market, and fighting
4:02
for an audience. Dude, you're not gonna
4:04
put me into a bad mood just cause you're in a bad
4:06
mood. I know, but me pissing you off makes me feel
4:08
so much better. The
4:11
whole time, still trying to figure out who
4:13
they were as a show. Our
4:15
lives are completely different, dude. Sorry.
4:18
You have scarves in your drawers, and I sleep
4:21
in the basement of my parents' house. But
4:24
one thing they did now, if
4:26
they were gonna win, they couldn't
4:28
do it alone. Kiss 95. And
4:33
now, the Kiss 95 morning
4:35
show light up. It
4:37
was born in the gutter and bred on the
4:39
streets, standing 6'4 and 185 pounds of pure white
4:44
trash. From entertainment tonight,
4:46
Canada, on the Roz and
4:48
Moka show. Please welcome the
4:50
slippery little skinny, the cracker,
4:52
Rapper-Chammer, Rrrrrr! This
4:55
is West. At
5:00
6'2, wait a minute, that can't be right. It's
5:03
gotta be 5'7. Rapper
5:06
sends Scarvero to the fullest. He
5:08
used to live in his mom and dad's basement,
5:11
and is usually in bed by 6pm. The
5:14
other half of the Roz and Moka show. Rrrrrrrr!
5:23
I've said the name, Trevor
5:25
Shan, a thousand times in
5:27
life. I have never once
5:30
said the name, Trevor Shan,
5:32
on the radio. Hey, this
5:34
is Trevor Shan. I was Roz and Moka's
5:36
imaging producer and song parody writer from 2009
5:38
to 2018. I
5:40
know Moka wanted Roz's birthday song to
5:43
be the new one from Little John,
5:45
but this one's a little more
5:47
appropriate, so I think it's time to get
5:49
it on. Happy birthday,
5:51
Roz, you're a good guy. And the thing
5:53
that I thought was most exciting about it
5:56
is that they really built from the
5:58
ground up an anti-radio show. It
6:01
was doing things in approaching it in a way
6:03
that. I found the know whether radio
6:05
show was really doing at that time. I think
6:07
there were ahead of the curve and I get
6:09
what they were doing was kind of the opposite
6:11
of what everybody else was doing. For
6:16
the first little while it
6:18
was just smoke and I
6:20
and I liked it that
6:22
way. I never wanted anyone
6:24
else in the room, but
6:27
we knew the show had
6:29
to grow and Trevor Shan
6:31
was the first piece. Oh
6:33
My. God. Trevor Sand Genius.
6:35
Gene. Yes, I've done a
6:37
lot of parity songs for
6:40
the Rosin Mocha show. So.
6:42
They'd have an idea. and they
6:44
have so many ideas. You know
6:46
he does centers and an idea
6:48
as. Eight o'clock at night and
6:50
he'd wake up the next morning to some kind
6:53
of brilliance. When
6:55
we really got rolling and I got
6:57
to know more about smoking mocha, get
7:00
to know more about me. We would
7:02
use Trevor as like a weapon where
7:04
I would write hims dust and than
7:06
trevor would send it back and it
7:08
would be like get like a distract
7:10
needs right things to me separately for
7:13
me to put together to roast the
7:15
other guy. That definitely happened and it
7:17
was definitely fun and Trevor like in
7:19
less than twenty four hours would come
7:21
back with like I see a straight
7:23
up. Cedar A straight banger. I
7:32
I recall a lot of
7:34
stuff like Gosling Gosselins just
7:37
Like Mobile Remember that was
7:39
a some reason for us.
7:41
All about their Mojo looked
7:43
exactly like Jon Gosselin Mocha.
7:45
It's Heated Jon Gosselin This
7:47
is John from Jon and
7:49
Kate Plus eight the reality
7:51
show Back of A Day.
7:54
not that i care about john dot when
7:56
although i am completely fascinated with the to
7:58
with us but i only bring it up
8:00
because it drives you crazy. Yeah, but nobody
8:02
cares about him anymore. That is my real
8:04
fascination, is that just the sheer mention of
8:06
his name drives you bonkers. I'm not gonna
8:08
let it get to me anymore.
8:10
And so once I found this out, I
8:12
had no interest in John Gosling. But
8:15
if there was ever a John Gosling story
8:17
in the news that day, you are bloody
8:19
well right it would be the first thing
8:22
that I brought up when we did the
8:24
news. A couple things start
8:26
off by aggravating Moka. Did you hear about the
8:28
John Gosling story, the latest on John Gosling?
8:30
And he finally croaked? No, he didn't finally
8:33
croak, but he did go to he and
8:35
Kate's joint bank account and emptied And
8:38
I did it just to drive Moka crazy
8:40
because he would just have a physical reaction
8:42
to John Gosling. And I have
8:44
no idea why. Okay,
8:48
so the whole hatred towards John Gosling, okay?
8:51
I think that was like truly, I
8:54
don't know if I really, really hated the guy, but
8:56
I think what bothered me is the
8:58
fact that Roz kept saying that I
9:00
hated him or Roz kept saying that
9:02
you the two of you, you and
9:04
John Gosling are so much like each
9:06
other. And I would just always say,
9:09
bro, I don't think you realize how
9:11
similar you are to John Gosling. And
9:13
this would drive Moka crazy. I didn't see
9:15
it at all. Like I
9:17
was in a completely different point in my life. Good
9:20
morning, this song with Moka and
9:22
John Gosling is hilarious. See,
9:24
Moka doesn't understand the similarities
9:26
that he actually has with John
9:29
Gosling. Let me go through
9:31
them with you. And so that's where the
9:33
song came from. That was the sort of
9:35
reason it started was Moka's
9:37
irrational hatred for John Gosling.
9:40
And my constant picking,
9:42
picking, picking at Moka to
9:44
let him know that no,
9:46
man, you guys are actually
9:48
bros. He
9:51
produced a song just
9:53
to show Moka exactly how alike he is
9:56
with John Gosling, because I think that's what's
9:58
real problem is that he just. You
10:00
know, very, very, very similar. I'm not going to
10:02
let it bother me. No
10:08
way yet! Alright, that's all
10:10
you get. Listen,
10:12
everybody knows what's going on, okay? Our
10:17
audience fully knows what's going on and it's
10:19
so much fun to tweet. And that song,
10:21
the the the Gospels Just Like Mocha, it
10:23
was a fan favorite like right out of
10:25
the gate. Right out of the gate. I
10:28
think what made that song that Trevor eventually
10:30
did special and hilarious is the fact that
10:32
I fought against all of it. And then
10:34
part of that fight against all of it
10:37
became part of the song. At
11:12
the beginning, the Ross and Mocha show, it
11:14
was funny because I've been
11:17
in Los Angeles this entire
11:19
time that I worked with them. What
11:24
Trevor did for our show was differentiate
11:27
us from any
11:29
other radio show in the entire country.
11:32
He added a bigness to the show and
11:34
he really got them. He really understood the
11:37
show. In those early days, Trevor was a
11:39
chief architect on building the identity of the
11:41
show. I don't know if he knows that
11:44
or how important he was to
11:46
me and Tomoka and to the
11:48
show. As far as any direction,
11:51
there really wasn't any mission
11:53
statement. Just be
11:55
creative. There's no net. Be
11:58
As wild as you want to be and just go. Crazy
12:00
so that was a lot of
12:02
fun. She was so integral in
12:05
the way we sounded, in the
12:07
way we presented ourselves that I
12:10
do not think we could have
12:12
done. Anything without.
12:14
Of. There's.
12:18
So much crazy stuff
12:20
I'm hard drives. Oh.
12:24
Of stuff, stuff that I don't
12:26
remember. Until I click on it and
12:28
I'm Oh My. God. And every time I do.
12:31
I. Laughed man some of that like independent
12:33
Travel.i thought to the call Independent Drugs O'hare
12:35
like we had no idea, no direction it
12:37
was just stuff from hims ah I love
12:39
that stuff because it was such a big
12:41
surprise to both of us and will always
12:44
genius and they would come in the next
12:46
day and they'd have this file that I
12:48
would send are a bunch of files. And.
12:50
For what to do? Like: Whatever he wanted to
12:53
like. There were times when we would come in
12:55
and there was be a piece of productions in
12:57
the email where he just straight up like call
12:59
this loser. Real
13:21
likely result. I
13:34
guess. I don't. Listeners ask a
13:37
lot for the Mother's Day staff. Know
13:40
I love you guys! I was very sweet.
13:42
Of You Adjust for You and all the other
13:44
moms I love in a city. We're going to
13:46
play them up as a song that. Girl
13:51
a girl we asked for Mother's Day was coming
13:53
up and it was Catherine's first Mother's day I
13:55
remember that and we said he'd for of can
13:57
we get a Mother's day some gone in a
13:59
Mother's day weekend. No problem. And
14:01
I'm not getting a lotta time to
14:03
do these things. It's usually night before
14:05
it airs so whatever they're sending me
14:07
I'm weapon together real quick and whatever
14:10
comes out comes out again. I have
14:12
to reiterate we dip Trevor almost the
14:14
bare minimum given the idea is a
14:16
scenario. can you write something around it
14:18
I would pick the song, I would
14:20
pick what I would say and they
14:22
really wouldn't be here. Any part of
14:24
that are be a part of the
14:26
creative process something which is kind of
14:28
get in the next day and their
14:30
Bs a. Fire waiting for them to play
14:32
on the air. What?
14:36
Forever sent back. Was
14:39
a song about
14:42
wanting to. Do
14:44
sought my. Girl:
14:51
A Girl. It
14:56
was hysterical. again. Was it what we
14:59
thought we were gonna get for Mother's
15:01
Day Conference? First? Mother's Day? No. not
15:03
at all. But you know trove is
15:06
trove and that's why the song became
15:08
legendary and they never ask me to
15:10
redo anything. It was nothing at all
15:12
like that. It was just like be
15:15
as crazy as you was so that
15:17
was a lot of fuss. As a
15:19
seal mommy's. What?
16:03
He was a genius but
16:05
he was also to the
16:08
audience a complete mystery. We
16:10
never said where these songs
16:12
came from. I
16:16
think not naming me or pointing
16:18
me out. As a person
16:20
on the run and mocha show throughout
16:22
the time that I was with Sam
16:24
and in doing production in parody songs
16:26
and all that kind of stuff and
16:28
I thought that was a really cool
16:30
element of the show that that element
16:32
of mystery and mystique is very important.
16:34
It's something that's lost in today's day
16:36
and age and I think if you
16:39
can create mistake that's that's something to
16:41
behold and and something the cherish and
16:43
us something to get behind. So I
16:45
really liked of fact. If
16:47
Trevor Sand was a total mystery to be
16:50
audience than the second see figure to join.
16:52
The just was an enigma. An.
16:54
Absolute legends. But one
16:56
who's still never said a single word on
16:58
the show. Until now. Love!
17:02
My real name is Dj Climax. that's what
17:04
my mom calls me now so it's official.
17:07
Are many friends named Climax? I wish I'd
17:09
have him in climate. By the way his
17:11
his name is with three axes. I'm a
17:14
monster. And ladies if you want to know
17:16
why I have to ask him as our
17:18
government I club tonight. Oh. How
17:24
did I come up with Dj Climax?
17:26
that name. I was a vinyl Dj
17:28
on turntables and I wanted to be
17:30
different from all the details are at
17:32
the time and so instead of using
17:34
two turntables I used three turntables. An
17:36
iced are brainstorming Name's dad would signify
17:38
that I was like the past and
17:40
on topic as that's the whole have
17:43
bought mentality as he died he like
17:45
number one. So that's where I came
17:47
up with the our concept of Climax
17:49
because it's like the top you know
17:51
and can't get better at the T
17:53
gas. The three axes actually
17:55
signifies three turntables. so of
17:58
my my original logo. The
18:00
axes were ingrained in three turntables, so
18:02
that's the origin of the name. Before
18:05
I met Climax and we became
18:07
best friends I was always a
18:09
fan of Dj Climax. My family
18:11
thought I was Knox. My parents
18:13
are like you are be a
18:15
d to your door, become a
18:17
lawyer, then you can become Adidas
18:20
and then ya I just I
18:22
started putting all my time all
18:24
my money part time jobs. Worked
18:26
towards rust in high school to
18:28
pay for records. Remember like even
18:31
when I was younger? I'm going
18:33
to nightclubs in Toronto big big
18:35
club nights headlined by Dj climaxes.
18:37
Before we even became friends, I've
18:39
been really fortunate. I've worked some
18:41
really amazing Dj gigs resident nights.
18:44
I worked at the Government nightclub
18:46
for like seven years every Friday
18:48
night and was like a legendary
18:50
nights any was like the place
18:52
to be and a lot of
18:54
be Friday Saturday night. Climax Nights
18:57
almost every other week be
18:59
at a D J. Climax
19:01
Evening. Dj
19:06
Climax and I met and Two
19:08
Thousand and Four I had just
19:10
moved out to Kitchener Waterloo to
19:12
help launch a new top forty
19:14
actually at the time as an
19:16
urban radio station called Ninety One
19:18
Five The Beat. I was the
19:20
resident Dj at this club in
19:22
Waterloo, Ontario. Score! Revolution My club
19:24
like all the University's out there,
19:26
they're big. Friday nights was a
19:28
Dj Climax night and it was
19:30
like this massive mega club and
19:32
like thousand people every Friday nights
19:34
of the owner of. The club had
19:36
ties with the radio station before our the
19:38
season was gonna launch. You can buy a
19:40
of advertising and he wanted to do a
19:43
lives to air from his club on his
19:45
busiest night so the owner of the club
19:47
he called me up for a meeting and
19:49
in I was thinking this can be good
19:51
He sits me down and he's like primary
19:53
for have some good news for you and
19:55
some bad news. The good news is that
19:57
you're gonna consume you to dj here and
20:00
you're going to be on the radio on
20:02
Friday nights. So like I'd that's amazing Like
20:04
what's the bad news and he's like unfortunately
20:06
we have to pair you up and you
20:08
gotta work with or radio hosts name mocha
20:10
and I was going to be the hosts
20:12
I was also going to be a dj.
20:15
I'm like thinking that's not so bad I
20:17
mean like with a name like Motors like
20:19
she's probably really cool right? So like I'm
20:21
sure to work with her definitely not When
20:23
he was thinking. I'm
20:26
on setting up my turn tables and
20:28
then smoker walks into the dj booth
20:30
song and put him on blast. Now
20:32
he says he was a fake. When
20:34
I first found out that this person
20:36
a mocha we were going to come
20:38
I was like really hoping to going
20:40
to be like a super hot service
20:42
for hot ready for. Anything
20:45
her. I show up and I look
20:47
over any introduce themselves and it's not
20:49
exactly what I had secured Mocha to
20:52
be what he looked like right? So
20:54
of the big shock I. Don't remember.
20:56
There was a look of disappointment when
20:58
we first met. The right away you
21:00
know, Mocha just started cracking jokes with
21:03
me and you know, after like two
21:05
weeks of working with them honestly we
21:07
we became best friends. We hit it
21:09
off right away. He is all this
21:11
time later. Twenty years later he is
21:13
like my absolute best friends. While
21:24
building a legendary club show and at the
21:26
height of their popularity in Kitchener, Mocha would
21:28
get the offer to come to just since
21:30
her on else. Which ultimately
21:32
left Dj Climax with a career
21:34
and life altering choice to make.
21:38
When mocha last I laughed because he had
21:40
put me on and I just felt like
21:42
very others loyalty that we started that show
21:44
together or they want to do without him
21:47
and if he was gonna kiss I wanted
21:49
to find a way to go to kiss
21:51
as well. I'm gonna make it my life's
21:53
mission to get a job on tips as
21:55
well with new. Dishes
21:59
Hi Max and I had thought about
22:02
even from the very beginning when I
22:04
first got hired like a plan was
22:06
okay I got this job. I'm gonna
22:08
do whatever I can to get you
22:10
in two to three to five as
22:12
well. I'm going to try to you
22:14
know all it make the introduction of
22:16
marine try to make this happen.year in
22:18
two thousand and nine. When his last
22:20
I was like a regular fixture of
22:22
the radio station because I tagged along
22:24
with Mocha everywhere. I just wanted any
22:26
one at the radio station to to
22:28
you know get familiar with. Me a
22:30
know who I was in what I
22:32
did and we started doing club nights
22:34
together. The way down here right now
22:36
the government cyclops out of our lives.
22:40
Five, It's August. And
22:45
we would just like freestyle it from
22:47
ten pm on and it was just
22:49
like live remix thing I was just
22:51
working with. Your best friend is so
22:53
much fun! Sits in a be as
22:55
we got the place of real real
22:57
nice. We got the hop music collagen
22:59
ladies. Become a through the village, explode
23:01
ladies and afford to have a real
23:04
answer. Good Good Good good Samsonite.experience working
23:06
live with multi in the club.was sort
23:08
of drove me to like really think
23:10
about radio as a career rural. Okay,
23:12
well what else we wanted to make
23:14
sure we gotta do something. I want
23:17
to be able to share what I
23:19
do with the most amount of listeners
23:21
and have the most impact. I knew
23:23
that rather, Malcolm X's a good idea
23:25
because nobody in Toronto at the time
23:27
had been doing anything like that. It's
23:29
not normal. Or conventional to have a
23:32
mix show Dj on this type or
23:34
radio station as doubly wasn't back then
23:36
I don't know when climax actually started
23:39
to me and my head. He's been
23:41
there always. it
23:44
was summer of two thousand and ten
23:46
and it a thursday night i remember
23:48
i get a call from mike really
23:50
guys who was the music director of
23:52
a kiss at the time and he
23:54
said in all that mix that you
23:56
keep talking about are you able to
23:58
come to the studio tomorrow morning and
24:00
play music for us, mix music live. And the idea
24:03
was, hey, why don't we just have DJ Climax come
24:05
in and spin for like an hour, hour and a
24:07
half. It wasn't like a set time. I think it
24:09
was like from 8.30 or something
24:11
like that. And I thought this was like
24:13
totally weird because eight in the morning, I'm
24:16
a like club DJ. I don't start playing
24:18
till 11 p.m. And
24:20
are people gonna wanna hear music at 8
24:22
a.m. from a DJ mixing? And I was
24:24
like, I don't know. So of course I
24:27
said, yes, yeah, definitely I'll be
24:29
there. I knew nothing
24:31
about the world of DJing and
24:33
I relied heavily on Moka for
24:35
this. They came
24:37
up with the idea. They were like,
24:39
guys, this will work. And
24:41
I believed them. Yeah, I think it
24:43
was like a long weekend. And I
24:45
think Roz was traveling for ET Canada.
24:48
And I was riding the show
24:50
solo on a Friday. The very
24:52
first day we launched the Roz
24:54
and Moka mix, I wasn't even
24:56
there. 8.25
24:59
at Toronto's number one hit music station, KIF92.5. It
25:02
is the Roz and Moka show. A
25:04
BFF and co-host Roz is
25:06
on holidays. He'll be back with us
25:08
on Monday. Probably listening right now though,
25:10
because this is probably the coolest thing
25:13
you will hear on any radio station
25:15
in the entire city. I
25:17
couldn't tell you how nervous I was. My hand was shaking.
25:19
My hands were shaking. And I went on,
25:22
started mixing. And beside me
25:24
in the DJ booth, there's this computer
25:26
set up and it was logged on
25:28
to the KISS Facebook account. And
25:30
the Facebook account was blowing up. It
25:33
was like comment, comment, comment. And
25:35
it was like people were hyped. Because
25:38
climax is in the building and because we're
25:40
doing an exclusive mix for the
25:42
next hour and a half. You
25:47
get the Carabana air horn. It
25:50
had become a hit. It was like an
25:52
instant hit because it was cool. It was
25:54
different. And it just added like another layer
25:57
of cool to KISS And
25:59
to the Raw. Mocha. I'm telling you right
26:01
now this is the one show you
26:04
need to listen to is all part
26:06
of the Roz and Mocha mix? See
26:08
that club actually second one as is
26:10
go to be part of the Rise
26:13
and Look a mix but. We.
26:17
Were struggling and we were still a
26:19
brand new show and the ratings were
26:21
terrible and we didn't have a huge
26:23
audience and this was a way for
26:25
us to take ownership over something. It
26:27
was a wave for us to own
26:29
Friday's.first and second Friday it was just
26:31
magic And later that week I got
26:33
a call from the music director Dan
26:36
and this time he said would you
26:38
be able to do that every single
26:40
Friday from now on I even asked
26:42
him like do I get paid or
26:44
is is like a job I just
26:46
said. On their on their
26:48
every Friday sees. A climax is
26:50
in. Seville. That his got
26:52
the turn all set up. would mocha
26:55
yells it's Friday. It
26:57
is mocha giving
26:59
everyone. The. Permission to
27:01
start week. I
27:13
don't remember it's Friday coming from
27:15
like. Anything. I saw or
27:17
heard. The first time okay
27:19
yelled it's Friday It wasn't even part of
27:21
the mix the i don't think the makes
27:23
it started at this point. Yes,
27:26
by the way, with days it's a they Morgan's. Slay.
27:32
I think I just said it because
27:34
I was feeling so. I've always lived
27:37
in the moment, always like ready to
27:39
celebrate and like I think we would
27:41
have and like a great day and
27:43
so I heard it once and then.
27:45
Forced him suit soup it. do
27:48
it again. Without
27:50
diseases him. Food
27:54
really sad. Is gonna try
27:56
that again. Today.
28:01
I vaguely remember not
28:04
being able to yell out it's Friday, and
28:06
then Rob kind of egging me on. And
28:08
because I didn't want to come off as a
28:11
simp, I'm feeling, oh my voice. My voice,
28:13
my poor voice. I was
28:15
like, screw it. I used up
28:17
all my energy when I was screaming like
28:19
a director earlier. Take some pride in the
28:21
freaking show. We're almost done. It's
28:23
Friday! Thank
28:26
you. Thank you. Thank you. I
28:29
yelled out it's Friday. And guess what? Like
28:32
a simp, I probably spent the
28:34
entire weekend with a sore-ass voice.
28:37
I couldn't talk. The reason I
28:39
wanted to do the show with Mocha
28:42
was because of his energy. And
28:46
he is just fun. And when
28:49
I heard him for the first time yell it's Friday,
28:52
that's the reason I wanted to do the show with him. That's the
28:54
guy. That's the guy. It
28:56
is part of the party. It
28:58
celebrates people. It celebrates Friday. People
29:01
look forward to it. I think
29:03
people love to yell it as
29:05
long as I yell it on
29:07
the radio over on the
29:09
other side, no matter where it is that
29:11
they're listening. I love that kids get into
29:13
it. It is just so important. It
29:15
makes me happy to know that yelling
29:17
out it's Friday makes other people happy.
29:20
But before that happens, the
29:22
hype starts with what I would say
29:24
is the greatest intro to a mix
29:26
show ever created. Double time. Give it
29:29
to him! Hey,
29:35
what up? This is Cardinala Fischel and
29:37
I wrote and produced the Roz and
29:39
Mocha Mix intro song that you hear
29:41
every Friday. The
29:53
Roz and Mocha show is a staple
29:55
and I think it is a great
29:58
place that always welcomes me personally. with
30:01
open arms. So you know, Roz
30:03
and Mocha is Toronto, the
30:05
Roz and Mocha show is Canada. Cardinale
30:08
for Shop, greatest intro to a show
30:10
I think ever. I get hyped hearing
30:12
it. Everyone, the city gets hyped when
30:14
they hear that intro. Welcome
30:18
to the party, party people. We
30:20
can start and start. We make
30:22
decisions like that. Ah,
30:25
the Cardi intro, my favorite.
30:27
I had a friendship with
30:29
Cardi, much like with DJ
30:31
Climax. Growing up, I was a
30:34
fan of Cardi before Cardinale official
30:36
and I became friends. Mocha
30:39
is actually awesome. And he is somebody that
30:41
checks in on people all the time just
30:43
to say, hey, you're doing amazing. I'm watching
30:45
what you're doing. I had reached out to
30:48
Cardinale official and I said, hey, here's this
30:50
idea. They've always been incredible supporters. So when
30:52
he reached out to me, it was a
30:54
no brainer for me to do this for
30:56
the morning show. And he took
30:58
that and ran with it and got
31:01
the intro. Like that intro that you heard for
31:03
the very first time, like 14 years ago, is
31:06
the exact same one that runs right now, untouched
31:08
and has now become synonymous with the
31:11
Roz and Mocha mix. Like, you know,
31:13
the party starts as soon as you
31:16
hear that opening line from Cardinale. When
31:20
that song kicks in with
31:23
Cardinale official and Mocha yells,
31:25
it's Friday. It is
31:29
a moment that never
31:31
gets tired. It never
31:33
feels old or played
31:35
out. I
31:43
think with everything that I do, I'm either going
31:45
to go a thousand percent or not. I'm going to go a
31:47
thousand percent or not do it at all. You know what I'm
31:49
saying? Like it would have been cheap and cheesy for me to
31:51
just do, you know, some, I
31:54
don't know, generic, you know, just a little
31:56
hokey pokey thing that somebody put together. Like
31:58
for me, I definitely. wanted to put down the
32:01
Cardi stamp so that people would remember
32:03
it and recognize it every time it
32:06
came on the radio. Cardi
32:15
killed it. He killed it. And
32:17
he's a big part of the legacy of this
32:20
mix. Fridays
32:23
are just now like a friggin
32:25
party. People know it as
32:27
a party. It is appointment tuning for people.
32:30
Every week I just look forward to Fridays.
32:32
We're just like cracking jokes from the minute
32:34
we get in like to the DJ booth
32:36
to like going home. So it was just
32:38
so much fun. It is what people
32:41
love, it's what people want and for
32:44
a lot of people I truly believe
32:46
it's what people need. There's been many
32:48
times that people were tweeting me from
32:50
the hospital because they're in for a
32:52
surgery and they just want to like feel good
32:54
before they go into the surgery and they
32:56
want they want to calm their nerves or
32:59
they're getting ready for their wedding and
33:01
they're getting hype listening to the mix and like
33:04
birthdays and like it's just like
33:06
people celebrate this mix with whatever's
33:08
going on in their life. So
33:11
it's like we're providing that soundtrack.
33:22
With the Raza Moka mix, the
33:24
show had a legitimate hit on their hands. They
33:27
owned Fridays. Now it
33:29
was time to take ownership of something else. The
33:32
waterfall's most important thing is made out of
33:34
chocolate germs and all. Absolute
33:38
nonsense. Damn
33:46
it, Maury was
33:49
the next piece.
34:00
on the show. The show was growing
34:02
and it was just at the time,
34:05
Roz and I literally doing everything.
34:08
And we needed somebody
34:11
else in there with us to take
34:13
the show to the next level. So
34:16
there's a new person in our office on our
34:19
show. Come over to this microphone over here. Maury
34:24
Sherman. He's real good at what he does.
34:26
He's our producer. So
34:38
Maury Sherman, welcome to the show first of
34:40
all. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome
34:43
to the Roz and Mokey show. Thank you. I
34:46
didn't know much about Maury. I
34:48
never really talked to him before, but
34:50
I knew who
34:53
he was. Ah, damn it, Maury. I had
34:55
no idea who he was. I didn't follow
34:57
him on social media. I didn't know which
34:59
radio stations he worked at or which shows
35:01
he worked at. I knew Maury was working
35:04
for another station. He was working for Virgin
35:06
at the time. The way I ended up
35:08
on the Roz and Mokey show was kind
35:10
of a cool story because I was really
35:12
unhappy with where I was, just how I
35:14
was being treated. When I met Maury officially
35:17
for the first time, it was the
35:19
weirdest meeting. So
35:21
I'm walking out of the building that we do the
35:23
Roz and Mokey show in and Maury was on the
35:25
street. I was on my way to
35:28
go and do something because I lived next door at
35:30
the time. And I was like, hey, and he goes,
35:32
hey, and I go, what are you doing? And
35:35
he goes, you know, I'm just out doing
35:37
stuff for the show that
35:40
I work for. And I was like, cool.
35:42
And he goes, you know, I work
35:44
as hard for your show too, right? I
35:46
don't know why. I just said it. I
35:48
just said like I would work this hard
35:50
for you. And in that moment, I was
35:52
like, wow, that is incredibly flattering and so
35:55
disloyal. All at the
35:57
same time. My
36:00
guy was hinting. I guess I just really
36:02
wanted to leave where I was. I was
36:04
not happy and then I went to our
36:06
boss and I said hey I think more
36:08
you may want to jump. I. Think
36:10
he may want to make a move. I was
36:13
leaving a giant hands and I believe he picked
36:15
it up. I think Rise came in
36:17
and says this is the guy and we said
36:19
ok don't see let's go make it happen. And.
36:21
So we reached out to I'm an and offered in
36:24
the jaw. By member we
36:26
went to Starbucks and see. You
36:29
know, there was not a lot of small tacos.
36:31
Right down to the. The meat
36:33
of at all and just going a
36:35
you know that the regime mocha show
36:37
they would love to have you? would
36:39
you ever consider leaving and I just
36:41
remember seeing absolutely and I remember my
36:43
like. One question was can I continue
36:45
using the had can spend some more
36:48
He wears his never seen anything like
36:50
this more and more years ahead can
36:52
be basically has a dirty or bicycle
36:54
helmet was that he straps on his
36:56
head with a flip cam fashioned to
36:58
the top of it. The way they
37:00
had some started was in all honesty.
37:02
I created this because I wanted
37:05
a radio host. To be
37:07
able to were in Salem their point
37:09
of view. So he's walking around with
37:11
a helmet and when you see a
37:13
guy with a helmet on first of
37:15
all that has no bike inside you
37:17
automatically such as a sales and then
37:19
I just started wearing a Red carpets
37:21
and celebrities Loved it is Joseph Gordon
37:23
Levitt. Good to see it embodies the
37:25
user so I'm just I'm I'm overwhelmed
37:27
setting out your equipment here. My man
37:29
Morgan Freeman, how are you? I'm hey,
37:31
what are you. Going
37:34
to multitask a market? Asking.
37:37
I'm convinced that Behind him works
37:39
amazingly because people think on carpets
37:41
that I'm special. Like. Special
37:43
means I'm a. Bit
37:47
you know some sort of sir. Churchill.
37:50
Ah say how are you mad? Good
37:52
thing about years like is just from
37:54
afar. I can't think of anything else
37:56
besides the of with overs ever. Man
37:58
would say that about an hour ago,
38:00
literally I can't think of any. When
38:03
I ride sir I see you. I'm
38:05
like oh wait, and I can't get
38:07
my off of yourself. We figured each
38:09
other out on air, much like the
38:11
way molten. I figured each other out,
38:13
you know, on the radio. We figured
38:15
out Mori on the radio we didn't
38:17
have. There was a tonic conversations when
38:19
I first started on the show and
38:21
never forget the day. says.
38:24
Me: See.
38:29
Our producer Mark every time will give his name
38:31
as though it's damage more. Teach them something in
38:34
the junior sit at me. To
38:37
the name dammit mori it was so quick
38:39
with there's no meeting or discussion. it was
38:41
because we can't say because I would screw
38:43
everything up as a damn it more a.
38:46
Because. You can't say spock morning.
38:49
So. That's where it came from. like it
38:51
just wasn't I did this is going be your name
38:53
eg. sort of said it and it stuck. I.
38:55
Think the dynamic change once we
38:57
learned a little bit more about
38:59
Mores life and his personality and
39:02
I figured out a way to
39:04
bring that to the audience so
39:06
that they could learn about Mori.
39:08
the way we've learned about Mori.
39:10
The only thing Mocha ever calls
39:12
Mori is dammit moink as that's
39:15
the way he ends every sentence
39:17
and begins every sense. Why a
39:19
lot of getting imagine is that
39:21
most against all Jews that was
39:23
the wow More got a crush.
39:25
On Her I've added a lot of i really
39:28
do a warm a good seek alone. Hermione on
39:30
Buddy are you do. I
39:34
didn't know a lot about Maureen. I
39:37
knew he was gay. And.
39:39
Even hi Dad and and more will tell
39:41
you that I think that he was like
39:43
that the sort of firsts out gay man
39:46
on radio because even at that time years
39:48
ago when more he was out on the
39:50
radio there were be than a lot of
39:52
people who were out on television. Yes. I
39:57
am. the first
39:59
folio gay man on Canadian
40:01
radio. And I assure you, there's
40:03
been a lot of gay men on the radio, but
40:05
none of them have been as out as I am.
40:08
He was always proud of it, and he never, and
40:10
he never hit it. The way that I came out
40:12
was actually a mistake the first time I came out.
40:15
I was on a news talk station.
40:17
They created this youth show when I
40:19
was on this, and the host accidentally
40:22
said, well, you're gay. I
40:24
was horrified. So my coming
40:26
out, I didn't actually first say it.
40:30
But it was already happened. It happened.
40:33
So on the next show, I'm the gay guy.
40:35
So it just happened. So everywhere I went, I
40:37
was beyond proud to be the gay guy. So
40:39
I accidentally was pushed out of the closet on
40:41
the air. It's
40:44
really incredible. It's really incredible. And
40:46
I still will think about how difficult that
40:49
must have been at a time
40:51
when nobody was doing that. Morrie
40:54
calls me last week and says, I
40:56
don't care if this thing doesn't go to air, but I've
40:58
got to go and interview this guy because he's really hot.
41:00
Morrie, by the way, is that so? Who's
41:03
the guy? Who's the guy that
41:05
you had to interview? Dude, I didn't even remember his name.
41:07
I just call him the hot Abercrombie guy. What's his name?
41:09
I don't even remember his name. Seriously. It's
41:12
Nick Bateman. We say to Morrie, listen, instead of
41:14
just going and meeting this hot guy and having
41:16
the interview throw down the well, go
41:19
and flirt with him and make it really,
41:21
really awkward. And if it's awkward enough, Moko
41:23
listens to it. And if it's good enough
41:25
to play on the show, then we'll play
41:27
it. I think that the messiness of what
41:30
I bring and I think that everything that
41:32
I bring that is messy, I wouldn't
41:35
change that. I think that then
41:37
what am I? Every single
41:39
time, damn it, Morrie's microphone turns on.
41:42
I think disaster is
41:45
going to happen right from the beginning.
41:47
I love making people laugh. I love having
41:49
a little bit of the spotlight for a
41:51
moment to just be silly and be myself.
41:53
So I wouldn't take that away at all.
41:56
Disaster happens. It may not be at the
41:58
very beginning. But
42:00
it will eventually happen because
42:02
we know that at some point it's all going
42:05
to fall apart, but it's going to be awesome.
42:07
When Maury's on the radio, there's always the chance
42:09
that everything is just going to go to hell.
42:11
And I think that that's what makes him so
42:13
fun and so perfect for the show. And I
42:15
think that that's one of the reasons why the
42:18
audience fell in love with him. I
42:21
get so much heat as being
42:24
the one who puts Maury in
42:27
compromising positions, or I get called a
42:29
bully, or I get called all sorts
42:31
of stuff all the time. But the
42:33
one truth is most of those moments,
42:36
most of those things that you hear
42:38
on the radio, the situations that Maury's
42:40
in, those are his idea. Because like
42:43
why not pitch something or create something
42:45
that's going to make me look silly,
42:48
but makes the show hilariously awesome.
42:51
Every single one of them. But guess what?
42:53
They're hilarious. They're hilarious to listen to. They're
42:55
hilarious to watch. The fans love them. And
42:58
the fans, they just never know. We never
43:00
know. Roz and I never know what we're
43:02
going to get when a crazy idea comes
43:04
from from Maury. But
43:06
we know it's going to be funny. And
43:09
we know sometimes it's going to fall flat,
43:11
which makes it even more funny. Today is
43:13
a National Compliment Day, damn it, Maury pointed
43:15
out to me. National Compliment Day. I'll just
43:17
say that I absolutely think, and I say
43:19
this every year, that you are one
43:22
of the greatest people. You
43:24
listen so well, and you're a great person to
43:26
talk to. Thank you so much, Maury. And I
43:28
just want to say, first of all, thank you
43:31
so much for suggesting this, National Compliment Day, because
43:33
I am just so honored to be the first
43:35
person to ever say something nice to you. Now,
43:39
it's too bad this wasn't a roast.
43:43
Oh, no, could you imagine? Because I did write
43:45
this one, but I didn't know how to turn
43:48
it into a compliment, which is, Maury, I just
43:50
want to say that the only thing bigger than
43:52
your nose is the distance between your ego and
43:54
IQ. Happy
43:59
National Compliment Day! A lot
44:01
of that is me running and going,
44:03
oh my god, can we do this? Or, oh my
44:05
god, how silly would it be or how funny would
44:07
it be if I, you know, funneled
44:10
something? Oh god, the funnel. Funneling! Like, Morrie
44:12
built himself this funnel from me. He went
44:15
to Canadian Tire and got all this stuff
44:17
and he built like a funnel, like a
44:19
beer funnel. So Morrie
44:21
decides to make his own funnel. It's like when
44:23
somebody had to make their own sword before going
44:25
into battle. Like, it was just like... So
44:29
you can't buy a funnel on the one that
44:31
I would want. You actually can't buy funnels
44:33
online. It's hard. So
44:36
I have to make
44:38
my own. Fasten my own funnel.
44:41
This is a funnel from... The automotive section at
44:43
Canadian Tire. So it's an oil sort of thing
44:45
funnel. An oil funnel? Yeah, and
44:47
this piece of tube is... From the plumbing section.
44:52
I remember it was a black
44:54
funnel that I would use to
44:56
like, you know, filter
44:58
like the car oil, doing an
45:00
oil change. And then there was
45:02
like this clear tube that
45:04
was taped to the
45:06
bottom of the funnel with like
45:09
rainbow duct tape, I believe. And Morrie was like,
45:11
I want to see if I can funnel some
45:13
certain things. We were like, well, what do you
45:15
want to funnel? And he's like, I don't know,
45:17
like KFC gravy. So
45:20
when I funneled KFC gravy, the
45:22
marketing department behind KFC actually advised not to
45:24
do this, which is very funny, but we
45:26
still did it anyway. Today,
45:29
Morrie, you are going to be funneling
45:32
a full tub of KFC chicken...
45:35
Chicken gravy. Ew! Yo, that gravy is
45:37
good! A full tub of
45:39
KFC gravy is what the... Morrie is going to
45:41
funnel. So on
45:43
funnel days, Dammit Morrie would
45:46
spread a tarp, like a
45:48
drop sheet on the floor. Wait,
45:50
hang on. I got to take my pants off. Why?
45:52
Because I want to be able to put them back on. Most
45:56
days he didn't have a shirt on. I think some days
45:58
he would take a towel... And like
46:00
reverse cape, tie it around his neck.
46:03
Ah, I vaguely remember maybe
46:05
for some reason him wearing
46:07
goggles so that no splatter
46:09
will get him in the eye. So
46:12
the KFC gravy was, it arrived hot.
46:15
Now I'm gonna open. Oh my god,
46:17
it's so warm. I had to, I
46:19
had to heat it. I don't, I'm no savage.
46:21
I'm not gonna give you cold gravy. Oh, it
46:23
smells good. Okay, here we go. Oh man, it
46:25
smells fabulous. Okay, more are you. And I remember
46:28
as Roz was pouring the hot gravy into the
46:30
funnel, that it was steaming
46:32
like hot soup. Oh
46:34
my god, I can't believe we're doing this. What
46:36
do you mean we? Okay,
46:40
so Morrie, if you're ready, put the
46:42
hose in your mouth. Now
46:45
remember, the trick is this, because this is full of
46:47
KFC gravy. Don't stop
46:49
sucking because if you do, it's gonna go
46:52
everywhere. Okay, so don't stop. Do my best.
46:54
You got to take the whole thing, put
46:56
the hose a little bit deeper. And it
46:58
was steaming and smelled like spices. It smells
47:00
great. Okay, so more, are you
47:02
ready? Okay, I'm gonna lift up this
47:04
funnel. And here we go, Morrie. I
47:13
remember the clear tube of the funnel kind
47:15
of fogging up from the steam. And
47:19
Morrie chugging all
47:21
of that KFC gravy
47:23
and it having like a little bit of
47:25
a spice to it. And I remember it
47:27
burning like as it was oozing. It's not
47:29
fast, it was very slow. Oh
47:32
my god, it's burning my throat. It's
47:34
so hot. But
47:37
it's good, I want more. Okay, chuck, chuck,
47:39
chuck, chuck. Oh, yeah,
47:42
you got gravy coming
47:44
out of
47:46
your nose. I'm
47:49
glad you took your shirt off. More.
47:54
More. The KFC gravy was also too sick
47:56
for the funnel, so I was sucking and
47:58
sucking and sucking. burning and
48:00
sucking and like taking breath
48:02
because like sucking and sucking you lose breath
48:04
but you keep on sucking Did I mention
48:06
that he was always down on his knees
48:08
for funnel days in front of Rods? Oh
48:11
it's so hot I'm sweating Oh
48:13
no! I did it! I did it! Oh I'm so
48:15
hot! I won! It
48:36
was one of the most disgusting
48:40
things I
48:42
have ever seen in my life
48:46
I have no problem doing absolutely
48:48
anything that is ridiculous to
48:51
entertain you to make Roz and Mocha
48:53
laugh and us have a good time
48:56
The Roz and Mocha show on Kiss Mo
48:59
sent me earlier a story about the hurricane I
49:01
asked him to get me the latest on the
49:03
hurricane and what he
49:05
sent me in the subject
49:07
matter in the email was
49:09
hurricane but he spelled it
49:11
H-O-R-R-I-C-A-I-N Yeah, Horikine Horikine The
49:16
question that I get more than any other
49:18
question is, is Morrie really like that? Is
49:20
damn it, Morrie really like that? And I'm
49:23
always like, really like what? Right? Because I
49:25
get offended for him. Is Morrie really like that? If
49:30
you listen to the show long enough,
49:33
you know what that means The
49:37
answer to that question is yes, right?
49:41
Like yes, he is a
49:44
savant in certain things
49:47
and a child really in other
49:49
things I think my persona on
49:51
the radio is that fun
49:53
loving silly guy who is okay, I kind
49:56
of not that
49:58
bright We
50:02
knew he was a character. And when
50:04
I say a character, like, Morrie is
50:07
so eccentric in
50:09
particular in the
50:11
way he sees life and
50:14
how he navigates through life. I
50:17
always sort of attribute
50:20
attribute, attribute myself
50:22
to Rose from the Golden Girls. I
50:25
look up to Rose just because I think mentally we're
50:27
the same, but funny. And everybody
50:29
wants to love you. So
50:32
be that as it may, that's
50:35
me. Words, words,
50:37
words. As
50:39
promised, it is spelling bee season.
50:43
Morrie spell spaghetti. S-P-I,
50:47
spaghet, S-P-I-G-E-T-E-T-T-I-T-T.
50:55
Spaghetti, give it a go. S-P-I-G-E-T-E-T-T-I.
51:05
Yes. Spaghetti. No,
51:07
spaghetti. The
51:12
joke that I had always said on the
51:14
show is, you know, damn it, Morrie is
51:16
really, really, really great at some things, just
51:19
not most things. I'm just myself. Like, it's
51:21
not like I'm secretly awesome at math and
51:23
spelling. Ha ha, I got you now. No,
51:25
like this is how I am, this is
51:28
who I am. And
51:30
at my age of a young
51:32
guy, it's too late to change.
51:35
Like what's the point? Like if
51:37
I was gonna change, I would have changed who I
51:39
was earlier. Like I'm not going to math class
51:41
secretly at night. So I can figure out what
51:43
the hell eight plus four is. Well,
51:46
check on you. Eight, nine, 10, 12.
51:55
Coming up on the next episode of the
51:57
history of Raza Moka. I
51:59
was still sort of. figuring it out and still
52:01
trying to get confident enough to do
52:03
something that was loud or
52:06
big or brash. In my mind, Roz
52:08
would always say, hey Mocha, I would
52:10
say yeah. He would say, are
52:12
you ready? I would say yeah. And then
52:14
he'd scream, let's do the news. How that
52:16
actually happened was, Charlie Sheen,
52:18
I had to meet this guy. It
52:20
was like this weirdo friendship that the
52:22
two of them had. They're so desperate
52:24
and they're so jealous that
52:26
anybody cares about somebody other than them. So
52:29
TDOT State of Mind was a take
52:32
on Jay-Z and Alicia Keys, Empire State
52:34
of Mind. And threats
52:36
started to come in of boycotts.
52:38
My phone was blowing up and
52:41
all hell broke loose. People wanted
52:43
us fired and we'd only been
52:46
on the air three
52:48
months. My
52:50
only comment is more of a question.
52:52
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