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The History of Roz & Mocha E3: The Genius, The DJ & The Clown

The History of Roz & Mocha E3: The Genius, The DJ & The Clown

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The History of Roz & Mocha E3: The Genius, The DJ & The Clown

The History of Roz & Mocha E3: The Genius, The DJ & The Clown

The History of Roz & Mocha E3: The Genius, The DJ & The Clown

Wednesday, 1st May 2024
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0:01

Did we get Roz and Moka? Are

0:04

they standing by? Roz and

0:06

Moka join us live. Roz

0:08

and Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz

0:11

and Moka are very famous. Everybody

0:13

talks about them. Roz and

0:15

Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz and Moka.

0:18

We could not miss the chance to

0:20

talk to Roz and Moka. Roz and

0:22

Moka, Roz and Moka. Roz and

0:24

Moka. Roz, Roz and Moka. Roz and

0:26

Moka. Brand spank a new show, so

0:28

if we screw up today, then

0:31

you can yell at Roz. Thanks, bro. Yell at

0:33

the boss. The boss is the one that let

0:35

us loose on these microphones. I'm sure a lot

0:37

of people thought I was out of my mind.

0:39

Two opposites. When did I become the not fun

0:41

guy? I was started from the bottom. My only

0:44

focus was going to be to get on the

0:46

radio. But my problem was is that I had

0:48

such incredible stage fright. Everything about having an audience

0:50

terrified me. And Bill, one of the biggest radio

0:52

shows in the country. Oh, sorry.

0:56

This is the story they've never told. The

0:58

year before we started this show, I was

1:01

in a very different place in my life.

1:03

I was a broken, broken person. The story

1:05

of friendship. Are you serious? Oh

1:08

my god, that's such great news. So this.

1:10

Oh my god, look at me. I'm tearing up.

1:12

That's so good news. Family. I love my wife so

1:14

much. And we're having

1:17

a kid. I've said this since

1:19

the day I met you. You are going to be

1:22

one of the greatest fathers the world

1:24

has ever seen. Thanks, man. Comedy. Ha

1:26

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And

1:29

controversy. All hell broke loose. The stories

1:32

about the boycott. We got a letter

1:34

from like Jay-Z's lawyers. I think it

1:36

would have gotten really nasty. Basically, they

1:38

were going to destroy us. There was

1:40

a massive, massive deal at the time.

1:43

And the pursuit of a shared vision.

1:45

For me, the ultimate goal in everything

1:47

is to just put heart into it.

1:49

All the epic moments. Oh my god,

1:51

breaking news. The tears. No! Are

1:54

you serious? Oh my god. I

1:56

cried a lot. And damn it,

1:59

Morrie. Our producer. every guy mocha

2:01

says his name is always damn it more he's always

2:03

doing something in the studio it's just me off I

2:06

knew that he would be extremely popular

2:08

on the show the waterfalls most important

2:10

thing is made of chocolate germs you

2:14

know a journey of laughter and

2:18

the ridiculous we're going to be flicking

2:20

panties like

2:24

there it is the best

2:27

there ever will be told

2:29

by the people who were there I guess there's

2:31

you know sure there's by the book there there

2:33

was risk so that probably good so that would

2:35

be hot for us if you wanted to I

2:38

was confident that we could get a

2:40

deal here given that they both wanted him so

2:42

badly yet tremendous leverage I would say it is

2:45

a show centered around

2:47

two people who care deeply

2:49

about each other about their

2:52

families and about making you

2:54

laugh and by the ones you've never heard

2:56

on the show until now well my real

2:58

name is DJ climax and it's

3:00

official because that's what my mom calls me

3:03

now 14 years I can

3:05

be brown I can be blue I can

3:07

be fire on the sky thousands of shows

3:09

is mocha virgin I'm

3:11

not a virgin are you sir 10 million

3:14

podcast download oh it's an honor man you

3:16

guys reinstitution I can't believe we got to

3:18

be in the ross

3:20

all of this first show that

3:23

almost never happened I immediately said

3:25

no and I was rushed you

3:27

said no I felt like the show

3:29

had already failed and we hadn't even

3:31

built it yet this is the uncensored

3:34

how I got the reputation for being

3:36

the asshole right and unhinged looking back

3:38

I was an asshole I think that

3:40

mocha is far more of an asshole

3:42

than I am to be honest with

3:44

you history of ross and mocha I

3:46

told you all I was gonna do

3:48

it all you haters suck it suck

3:50

it suck it suck it suck it

3:53

suck it walk one fighting

4:00

for their place in the market, and fighting

4:02

for an audience. Dude, you're not gonna

4:04

put me into a bad mood just cause you're in a bad

4:06

mood. I know, but me pissing you off makes me feel

4:08

so much better. The

4:11

whole time, still trying to figure out who

4:13

they were as a show. Our

4:15

lives are completely different, dude. Sorry.

4:18

You have scarves in your drawers, and I sleep

4:21

in the basement of my parents' house. But

4:24

one thing they did now, if

4:26

they were gonna win, they couldn't

4:28

do it alone. Kiss 95. And

4:33

now, the Kiss 95 morning

4:35

show light up. It

4:37

was born in the gutter and bred on the

4:39

streets, standing 6'4 and 185 pounds of pure white

4:44

trash. From entertainment tonight,

4:46

Canada, on the Roz and

4:48

Moka show. Please welcome the

4:50

slippery little skinny, the cracker,

4:52

Rapper-Chammer, Rrrrrr! This

4:55

is West. At

5:00

6'2, wait a minute, that can't be right. It's

5:03

gotta be 5'7. Rapper

5:06

sends Scarvero to the fullest. He

5:08

used to live in his mom and dad's basement,

5:11

and is usually in bed by 6pm. The

5:14

other half of the Roz and Moka show. Rrrrrrrr!

5:23

I've said the name, Trevor

5:25

Shan, a thousand times in

5:27

life. I have never once

5:30

said the name, Trevor Shan,

5:32

on the radio. Hey, this

5:34

is Trevor Shan. I was Roz and Moka's

5:36

imaging producer and song parody writer from 2009

5:38

to 2018. I

5:40

know Moka wanted Roz's birthday song to

5:43

be the new one from Little John,

5:45

but this one's a little more

5:47

appropriate, so I think it's time to get

5:49

it on. Happy birthday,

5:51

Roz, you're a good guy. And the thing

5:53

that I thought was most exciting about it

5:56

is that they really built from the

5:58

ground up an anti-radio show. It

6:01

was doing things in approaching it in a way

6:03

that. I found the know whether radio

6:05

show was really doing at that time. I think

6:07

there were ahead of the curve and I get

6:09

what they were doing was kind of the opposite

6:11

of what everybody else was doing. For

6:16

the first little while it

6:18

was just smoke and I

6:20

and I liked it that

6:22

way. I never wanted anyone

6:24

else in the room, but

6:27

we knew the show had

6:29

to grow and Trevor Shan

6:31

was the first piece. Oh

6:33

My. God. Trevor Sand Genius.

6:35

Gene. Yes, I've done a

6:37

lot of parity songs for

6:40

the Rosin Mocha show. So.

6:42

They'd have an idea. and they

6:44

have so many ideas. You know

6:46

he does centers and an idea

6:48

as. Eight o'clock at night and

6:50

he'd wake up the next morning to some kind

6:53

of brilliance. When

6:55

we really got rolling and I got

6:57

to know more about smoking mocha, get

7:00

to know more about me. We would

7:02

use Trevor as like a weapon where

7:04

I would write hims dust and than

7:06

trevor would send it back and it

7:08

would be like get like a distract

7:10

needs right things to me separately for

7:13

me to put together to roast the

7:15

other guy. That definitely happened and it

7:17

was definitely fun and Trevor like in

7:19

less than twenty four hours would come

7:21

back with like I see a straight

7:23

up. Cedar A straight banger. I

7:32

I recall a lot of

7:34

stuff like Gosling Gosselins just

7:37

Like Mobile Remember that was

7:39

a some reason for us.

7:41

All about their Mojo looked

7:43

exactly like Jon Gosselin Mocha.

7:45

It's Heated Jon Gosselin This

7:47

is John from Jon and

7:49

Kate Plus eight the reality

7:51

show Back of A Day.

7:54

not that i care about john dot when

7:56

although i am completely fascinated with the to

7:58

with us but i only bring it up

8:00

because it drives you crazy. Yeah, but nobody

8:02

cares about him anymore. That is my real

8:04

fascination, is that just the sheer mention of

8:06

his name drives you bonkers. I'm not gonna

8:08

let it get to me anymore.

8:10

And so once I found this out, I

8:12

had no interest in John Gosling. But

8:15

if there was ever a John Gosling story

8:17

in the news that day, you are bloody

8:19

well right it would be the first thing

8:22

that I brought up when we did the

8:24

news. A couple things start

8:26

off by aggravating Moka. Did you hear about the

8:28

John Gosling story, the latest on John Gosling?

8:30

And he finally croaked? No, he didn't finally

8:33

croak, but he did go to he and

8:35

Kate's joint bank account and emptied And

8:38

I did it just to drive Moka crazy

8:40

because he would just have a physical reaction

8:42

to John Gosling. And I have

8:44

no idea why. Okay,

8:48

so the whole hatred towards John Gosling, okay?

8:51

I think that was like truly, I

8:54

don't know if I really, really hated the guy, but

8:56

I think what bothered me is the

8:58

fact that Roz kept saying that I

9:00

hated him or Roz kept saying that

9:02

you the two of you, you and

9:04

John Gosling are so much like each

9:06

other. And I would just always say,

9:09

bro, I don't think you realize how

9:11

similar you are to John Gosling. And

9:13

this would drive Moka crazy. I didn't see

9:15

it at all. Like I

9:17

was in a completely different point in my life. Good

9:20

morning, this song with Moka and

9:22

John Gosling is hilarious. See,

9:24

Moka doesn't understand the similarities

9:26

that he actually has with John

9:29

Gosling. Let me go through

9:31

them with you. And so that's where the

9:33

song came from. That was the sort of

9:35

reason it started was Moka's

9:37

irrational hatred for John Gosling.

9:40

And my constant picking,

9:42

picking, picking at Moka to

9:44

let him know that no,

9:46

man, you guys are actually

9:48

bros. He

9:51

produced a song just

9:53

to show Moka exactly how alike he is

9:56

with John Gosling, because I think that's what's

9:58

real problem is that he just. You

10:00

know, very, very, very similar. I'm not going to

10:02

let it bother me. No

10:08

way yet! Alright, that's all

10:10

you get. Listen,

10:12

everybody knows what's going on, okay? Our

10:17

audience fully knows what's going on and it's

10:19

so much fun to tweet. And that song,

10:21

the the the Gospels Just Like Mocha, it

10:23

was a fan favorite like right out of

10:25

the gate. Right out of the gate. I

10:28

think what made that song that Trevor eventually

10:30

did special and hilarious is the fact that

10:32

I fought against all of it. And then

10:34

part of that fight against all of it

10:37

became part of the song. At

11:12

the beginning, the Ross and Mocha show, it

11:14

was funny because I've been

11:17

in Los Angeles this entire

11:19

time that I worked with them. What

11:24

Trevor did for our show was differentiate

11:27

us from any

11:29

other radio show in the entire country.

11:32

He added a bigness to the show and

11:34

he really got them. He really understood the

11:37

show. In those early days, Trevor was a

11:39

chief architect on building the identity of the

11:41

show. I don't know if he knows that

11:44

or how important he was to

11:46

me and Tomoka and to the

11:48

show. As far as any direction,

11:51

there really wasn't any mission

11:53

statement. Just be

11:55

creative. There's no net. Be

11:58

As wild as you want to be and just go. Crazy

12:00

so that was a lot of

12:02

fun. She was so integral in

12:05

the way we sounded, in the

12:07

way we presented ourselves that I

12:10

do not think we could have

12:12

done. Anything without.

12:14

Of. There's.

12:18

So much crazy stuff

12:20

I'm hard drives. Oh.

12:24

Of stuff, stuff that I don't

12:26

remember. Until I click on it and

12:28

I'm Oh My. God. And every time I do.

12:31

I. Laughed man some of that like independent

12:33

Travel.i thought to the call Independent Drugs O'hare

12:35

like we had no idea, no direction it

12:37

was just stuff from hims ah I love

12:39

that stuff because it was such a big

12:41

surprise to both of us and will always

12:44

genius and they would come in the next

12:46

day and they'd have this file that I

12:48

would send are a bunch of files. And.

12:50

For what to do? Like: Whatever he wanted to

12:53

like. There were times when we would come in

12:55

and there was be a piece of productions in

12:57

the email where he just straight up like call

12:59

this loser. Real

13:21

likely result. I

13:34

guess. I don't. Listeners ask a

13:37

lot for the Mother's Day staff. Know

13:40

I love you guys! I was very sweet.

13:42

Of You Adjust for You and all the other

13:44

moms I love in a city. We're going to

13:46

play them up as a song that. Girl

13:51

a girl we asked for Mother's Day was coming

13:53

up and it was Catherine's first Mother's day I

13:55

remember that and we said he'd for of can

13:57

we get a Mother's day some gone in a

13:59

Mother's day weekend. No problem. And

14:01

I'm not getting a lotta time to

14:03

do these things. It's usually night before

14:05

it airs so whatever they're sending me

14:07

I'm weapon together real quick and whatever

14:10

comes out comes out again. I have

14:12

to reiterate we dip Trevor almost the

14:14

bare minimum given the idea is a

14:16

scenario. can you write something around it

14:18

I would pick the song, I would

14:20

pick what I would say and they

14:22

really wouldn't be here. Any part of

14:24

that are be a part of the

14:26

creative process something which is kind of

14:28

get in the next day and their

14:30

Bs a. Fire waiting for them to play

14:32

on the air. What?

14:36

Forever sent back. Was

14:39

a song about

14:42

wanting to. Do

14:44

sought my. Girl:

14:51

A Girl. It

14:56

was hysterical. again. Was it what we

14:59

thought we were gonna get for Mother's

15:01

Day Conference? First? Mother's Day? No. not

15:03

at all. But you know trove is

15:06

trove and that's why the song became

15:08

legendary and they never ask me to

15:10

redo anything. It was nothing at all

15:12

like that. It was just like be

15:15

as crazy as you was so that

15:17

was a lot of fuss. As a

15:19

seal mommy's. What?

16:03

He was a genius but

16:05

he was also to the

16:08

audience a complete mystery. We

16:10

never said where these songs

16:12

came from. I

16:16

think not naming me or pointing

16:18

me out. As a person

16:20

on the run and mocha show throughout

16:22

the time that I was with Sam

16:24

and in doing production in parody songs

16:26

and all that kind of stuff and

16:28

I thought that was a really cool

16:30

element of the show that that element

16:32

of mystery and mystique is very important.

16:34

It's something that's lost in today's day

16:36

and age and I think if you

16:39

can create mistake that's that's something to

16:41

behold and and something the cherish and

16:43

us something to get behind. So I

16:45

really liked of fact. If

16:47

Trevor Sand was a total mystery to be

16:50

audience than the second see figure to join.

16:52

The just was an enigma. An.

16:54

Absolute legends. But one

16:56

who's still never said a single word on

16:58

the show. Until now. Love!

17:02

My real name is Dj Climax. that's what

17:04

my mom calls me now so it's official.

17:07

Are many friends named Climax? I wish I'd

17:09

have him in climate. By the way his

17:11

his name is with three axes. I'm a

17:14

monster. And ladies if you want to know

17:16

why I have to ask him as our

17:18

government I club tonight. Oh. How

17:24

did I come up with Dj Climax?

17:26

that name. I was a vinyl Dj

17:28

on turntables and I wanted to be

17:30

different from all the details are at

17:32

the time and so instead of using

17:34

two turntables I used three turntables. An

17:36

iced are brainstorming Name's dad would signify

17:38

that I was like the past and

17:40

on topic as that's the whole have

17:43

bought mentality as he died he like

17:45

number one. So that's where I came

17:47

up with the our concept of Climax

17:49

because it's like the top you know

17:51

and can't get better at the T

17:53

gas. The three axes actually

17:55

signifies three turntables. so of

17:58

my my original logo. The

18:00

axes were ingrained in three turntables, so

18:02

that's the origin of the name. Before

18:05

I met Climax and we became

18:07

best friends I was always a

18:09

fan of Dj Climax. My family

18:11

thought I was Knox. My parents

18:13

are like you are be a

18:15

d to your door, become a

18:17

lawyer, then you can become Adidas

18:20

and then ya I just I

18:22

started putting all my time all

18:24

my money part time jobs. Worked

18:26

towards rust in high school to

18:28

pay for records. Remember like even

18:31

when I was younger? I'm going

18:33

to nightclubs in Toronto big big

18:35

club nights headlined by Dj climaxes.

18:37

Before we even became friends, I've

18:39

been really fortunate. I've worked some

18:41

really amazing Dj gigs resident nights.

18:44

I worked at the Government nightclub

18:46

for like seven years every Friday

18:48

night and was like a legendary

18:50

nights any was like the place

18:52

to be and a lot of

18:54

be Friday Saturday night. Climax Nights

18:57

almost every other week be

18:59

at a D J. Climax

19:01

Evening. Dj

19:06

Climax and I met and Two

19:08

Thousand and Four I had just

19:10

moved out to Kitchener Waterloo to

19:12

help launch a new top forty

19:14

actually at the time as an

19:16

urban radio station called Ninety One

19:18

Five The Beat. I was the

19:20

resident Dj at this club in

19:22

Waterloo, Ontario. Score! Revolution My club

19:24

like all the University's out there,

19:26

they're big. Friday nights was a

19:28

Dj Climax night and it was

19:30

like this massive mega club and

19:32

like thousand people every Friday nights

19:34

of the owner of. The club had

19:36

ties with the radio station before our the

19:38

season was gonna launch. You can buy a

19:40

of advertising and he wanted to do a

19:43

lives to air from his club on his

19:45

busiest night so the owner of the club

19:47

he called me up for a meeting and

19:49

in I was thinking this can be good

19:51

He sits me down and he's like primary

19:53

for have some good news for you and

19:55

some bad news. The good news is that

19:57

you're gonna consume you to dj here and

20:00

you're going to be on the radio on

20:02

Friday nights. So like I'd that's amazing Like

20:04

what's the bad news and he's like unfortunately

20:06

we have to pair you up and you

20:08

gotta work with or radio hosts name mocha

20:10

and I was going to be the hosts

20:12

I was also going to be a dj.

20:15

I'm like thinking that's not so bad I

20:17

mean like with a name like Motors like

20:19

she's probably really cool right? So like I'm

20:21

sure to work with her definitely not When

20:23

he was thinking. I'm

20:26

on setting up my turn tables and

20:28

then smoker walks into the dj booth

20:30

song and put him on blast. Now

20:32

he says he was a fake. When

20:34

I first found out that this person

20:36

a mocha we were going to come

20:38

I was like really hoping to going

20:40

to be like a super hot service

20:42

for hot ready for. Anything

20:45

her. I show up and I look

20:47

over any introduce themselves and it's not

20:49

exactly what I had secured Mocha to

20:52

be what he looked like right? So

20:54

of the big shock I. Don't remember.

20:56

There was a look of disappointment when

20:58

we first met. The right away you

21:00

know, Mocha just started cracking jokes with

21:03

me and you know, after like two

21:05

weeks of working with them honestly we

21:07

we became best friends. We hit it

21:09

off right away. He is all this

21:11

time later. Twenty years later he is

21:13

like my absolute best friends. While

21:24

building a legendary club show and at the

21:26

height of their popularity in Kitchener, Mocha would

21:28

get the offer to come to just since

21:30

her on else. Which ultimately

21:32

left Dj Climax with a career

21:34

and life altering choice to make.

21:38

When mocha last I laughed because he had

21:40

put me on and I just felt like

21:42

very others loyalty that we started that show

21:44

together or they want to do without him

21:47

and if he was gonna kiss I wanted

21:49

to find a way to go to kiss

21:51

as well. I'm gonna make it my life's

21:53

mission to get a job on tips as

21:55

well with new. Dishes

21:59

Hi Max and I had thought about

22:02

even from the very beginning when I

22:04

first got hired like a plan was

22:06

okay I got this job. I'm gonna

22:08

do whatever I can to get you

22:10

in two to three to five as

22:12

well. I'm going to try to you

22:14

know all it make the introduction of

22:16

marine try to make this happen.year in

22:18

two thousand and nine. When his last

22:20

I was like a regular fixture of

22:22

the radio station because I tagged along

22:24

with Mocha everywhere. I just wanted any

22:26

one at the radio station to to

22:28

you know get familiar with. Me a

22:30

know who I was in what I

22:32

did and we started doing club nights

22:34

together. The way down here right now

22:36

the government cyclops out of our lives.

22:40

Five, It's August. And

22:45

we would just like freestyle it from

22:47

ten pm on and it was just

22:49

like live remix thing I was just

22:51

working with. Your best friend is so

22:53

much fun! Sits in a be as

22:55

we got the place of real real

22:57

nice. We got the hop music collagen

22:59

ladies. Become a through the village, explode

23:01

ladies and afford to have a real

23:04

answer. Good Good Good good Samsonite.experience working

23:06

live with multi in the club.was sort

23:08

of drove me to like really think

23:10

about radio as a career rural. Okay,

23:12

well what else we wanted to make

23:14

sure we gotta do something. I want

23:17

to be able to share what I

23:19

do with the most amount of listeners

23:21

and have the most impact. I knew

23:23

that rather, Malcolm X's a good idea

23:25

because nobody in Toronto at the time

23:27

had been doing anything like that. It's

23:29

not normal. Or conventional to have a

23:32

mix show Dj on this type or

23:34

radio station as doubly wasn't back then

23:36

I don't know when climax actually started

23:39

to me and my head. He's been

23:41

there always. it

23:44

was summer of two thousand and ten

23:46

and it a thursday night i remember

23:48

i get a call from mike really

23:50

guys who was the music director of

23:52

a kiss at the time and he

23:54

said in all that mix that you

23:56

keep talking about are you able to

23:58

come to the studio tomorrow morning and

24:00

play music for us, mix music live. And the idea

24:03

was, hey, why don't we just have DJ Climax come

24:05

in and spin for like an hour, hour and a

24:07

half. It wasn't like a set time. I think it

24:09

was like from 8.30 or something

24:11

like that. And I thought this was like

24:13

totally weird because eight in the morning, I'm

24:16

a like club DJ. I don't start playing

24:18

till 11 p.m. And

24:20

are people gonna wanna hear music at 8

24:22

a.m. from a DJ mixing? And I was

24:24

like, I don't know. So of course I

24:27

said, yes, yeah, definitely I'll be

24:29

there. I knew nothing

24:31

about the world of DJing and

24:33

I relied heavily on Moka for

24:35

this. They came

24:37

up with the idea. They were like,

24:39

guys, this will work. And

24:41

I believed them. Yeah, I think it

24:43

was like a long weekend. And I

24:45

think Roz was traveling for ET Canada.

24:48

And I was riding the show

24:50

solo on a Friday. The very

24:52

first day we launched the Roz

24:54

and Moka mix, I wasn't even

24:56

there. 8.25

24:59

at Toronto's number one hit music station, KIF92.5. It

25:02

is the Roz and Moka show. A

25:04

BFF and co-host Roz is

25:06

on holidays. He'll be back with us

25:08

on Monday. Probably listening right now though,

25:10

because this is probably the coolest thing

25:13

you will hear on any radio station

25:15

in the entire city. I

25:17

couldn't tell you how nervous I was. My hand was shaking.

25:19

My hands were shaking. And I went on,

25:22

started mixing. And beside me

25:24

in the DJ booth, there's this computer

25:26

set up and it was logged on

25:28

to the KISS Facebook account. And

25:30

the Facebook account was blowing up. It

25:33

was like comment, comment, comment. And

25:35

it was like people were hyped. Because

25:38

climax is in the building and because we're

25:40

doing an exclusive mix for the

25:42

next hour and a half. You

25:47

get the Carabana air horn. It

25:50

had become a hit. It was like an

25:52

instant hit because it was cool. It was

25:54

different. And it just added like another layer

25:57

of cool to KISS And

25:59

to the Raw. Mocha. I'm telling you right

26:01

now this is the one show you

26:04

need to listen to is all part

26:06

of the Roz and Mocha mix? See

26:08

that club actually second one as is

26:10

go to be part of the Rise

26:13

and Look a mix but. We.

26:17

Were struggling and we were still a

26:19

brand new show and the ratings were

26:21

terrible and we didn't have a huge

26:23

audience and this was a way for

26:25

us to take ownership over something. It

26:27

was a wave for us to own

26:29

Friday's.first and second Friday it was just

26:31

magic And later that week I got

26:33

a call from the music director Dan

26:36

and this time he said would you

26:38

be able to do that every single

26:40

Friday from now on I even asked

26:42

him like do I get paid or

26:44

is is like a job I just

26:46

said. On their on their

26:48

every Friday sees. A climax is

26:50

in. Seville. That his got

26:52

the turn all set up. would mocha

26:55

yells it's Friday. It

26:57

is mocha giving

26:59

everyone. The. Permission to

27:01

start week. I

27:13

don't remember it's Friday coming from

27:15

like. Anything. I saw or

27:17

heard. The first time okay

27:19

yelled it's Friday It wasn't even part of

27:21

the mix the i don't think the makes

27:23

it started at this point. Yes,

27:26

by the way, with days it's a they Morgan's. Slay.

27:32

I think I just said it because

27:34

I was feeling so. I've always lived

27:37

in the moment, always like ready to

27:39

celebrate and like I think we would

27:41

have and like a great day and

27:43

so I heard it once and then.

27:45

Forced him suit soup it. do

27:48

it again. Without

27:50

diseases him. Food

27:54

really sad. Is gonna try

27:56

that again. Today.

28:01

I vaguely remember not

28:04

being able to yell out it's Friday, and

28:06

then Rob kind of egging me on. And

28:08

because I didn't want to come off as a

28:11

simp, I'm feeling, oh my voice. My voice,

28:13

my poor voice. I was

28:15

like, screw it. I used up

28:17

all my energy when I was screaming like

28:19

a director earlier. Take some pride in the

28:21

freaking show. We're almost done. It's

28:23

Friday! Thank

28:26

you. Thank you. Thank you. I

28:29

yelled out it's Friday. And guess what? Like

28:32

a simp, I probably spent the

28:34

entire weekend with a sore-ass voice.

28:37

I couldn't talk. The reason I

28:39

wanted to do the show with Mocha

28:42

was because of his energy. And

28:46

he is just fun. And when

28:49

I heard him for the first time yell it's Friday,

28:52

that's the reason I wanted to do the show with him. That's the

28:54

guy. That's the guy. It

28:56

is part of the party. It

28:58

celebrates people. It celebrates Friday. People

29:01

look forward to it. I think

29:03

people love to yell it as

29:05

long as I yell it on

29:07

the radio over on the

29:09

other side, no matter where it is that

29:11

they're listening. I love that kids get into

29:13

it. It is just so important. It

29:15

makes me happy to know that yelling

29:17

out it's Friday makes other people happy.

29:20

But before that happens, the

29:22

hype starts with what I would say

29:24

is the greatest intro to a mix

29:26

show ever created. Double time. Give it

29:29

to him! Hey,

29:35

what up? This is Cardinala Fischel and

29:37

I wrote and produced the Roz and

29:39

Mocha Mix intro song that you hear

29:41

every Friday. The

29:53

Roz and Mocha show is a staple

29:55

and I think it is a great

29:58

place that always welcomes me personally. with

30:01

open arms. So you know, Roz

30:03

and Mocha is Toronto, the

30:05

Roz and Mocha show is Canada. Cardinale

30:08

for Shop, greatest intro to a show

30:10

I think ever. I get hyped hearing

30:12

it. Everyone, the city gets hyped when

30:14

they hear that intro. Welcome

30:18

to the party, party people. We

30:20

can start and start. We make

30:22

decisions like that. Ah,

30:25

the Cardi intro, my favorite.

30:27

I had a friendship with

30:29

Cardi, much like with DJ

30:31

Climax. Growing up, I was a

30:34

fan of Cardi before Cardinale official

30:36

and I became friends. Mocha

30:39

is actually awesome. And he is somebody that

30:41

checks in on people all the time just

30:43

to say, hey, you're doing amazing. I'm watching

30:45

what you're doing. I had reached out to

30:48

Cardinale official and I said, hey, here's this

30:50

idea. They've always been incredible supporters. So when

30:52

he reached out to me, it was a

30:54

no brainer for me to do this for

30:56

the morning show. And he took

30:58

that and ran with it and got

31:01

the intro. Like that intro that you heard for

31:03

the very first time, like 14 years ago, is

31:06

the exact same one that runs right now, untouched

31:08

and has now become synonymous with the

31:11

Roz and Mocha mix. Like, you know,

31:13

the party starts as soon as you

31:16

hear that opening line from Cardinale. When

31:20

that song kicks in with

31:23

Cardinale official and Mocha yells,

31:25

it's Friday. It is

31:29

a moment that never

31:31

gets tired. It never

31:33

feels old or played

31:35

out. I

31:43

think with everything that I do, I'm either going

31:45

to go a thousand percent or not. I'm going to go a

31:47

thousand percent or not do it at all. You know what I'm

31:49

saying? Like it would have been cheap and cheesy for me to

31:51

just do, you know, some, I

31:54

don't know, generic, you know, just a little

31:56

hokey pokey thing that somebody put together. Like

31:58

for me, I definitely. wanted to put down the

32:01

Cardi stamp so that people would remember

32:03

it and recognize it every time it

32:06

came on the radio. Cardi

32:15

killed it. He killed it. And

32:17

he's a big part of the legacy of this

32:20

mix. Fridays

32:23

are just now like a friggin

32:25

party. People know it as

32:27

a party. It is appointment tuning for people.

32:30

Every week I just look forward to Fridays.

32:32

We're just like cracking jokes from the minute

32:34

we get in like to the DJ booth

32:36

to like going home. So it was just

32:38

so much fun. It is what people

32:41

love, it's what people want and for

32:44

a lot of people I truly believe

32:46

it's what people need. There's been many

32:48

times that people were tweeting me from

32:50

the hospital because they're in for a

32:52

surgery and they just want to like feel good

32:54

before they go into the surgery and they

32:56

want they want to calm their nerves or

32:59

they're getting ready for their wedding and

33:01

they're getting hype listening to the mix and like

33:04

birthdays and like it's just like

33:06

people celebrate this mix with whatever's

33:08

going on in their life. So

33:11

it's like we're providing that soundtrack.

33:22

With the Raza Moka mix, the

33:24

show had a legitimate hit on their hands. They

33:27

owned Fridays. Now it

33:29

was time to take ownership of something else. The

33:32

waterfall's most important thing is made out of

33:34

chocolate germs and all. Absolute

33:38

nonsense. Damn

33:46

it, Maury was

33:49

the next piece.

34:00

on the show. The show was growing

34:02

and it was just at the time,

34:05

Roz and I literally doing everything.

34:08

And we needed somebody

34:11

else in there with us to take

34:13

the show to the next level. So

34:16

there's a new person in our office on our

34:19

show. Come over to this microphone over here. Maury

34:24

Sherman. He's real good at what he does.

34:26

He's our producer. So

34:38

Maury Sherman, welcome to the show first of

34:40

all. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome

34:43

to the Roz and Mokey show. Thank you. I

34:46

didn't know much about Maury. I

34:48

never really talked to him before, but

34:50

I knew who

34:53

he was. Ah, damn it, Maury. I had

34:55

no idea who he was. I didn't follow

34:57

him on social media. I didn't know which

34:59

radio stations he worked at or which shows

35:01

he worked at. I knew Maury was working

35:04

for another station. He was working for Virgin

35:06

at the time. The way I ended up

35:08

on the Roz and Mokey show was kind

35:10

of a cool story because I was really

35:12

unhappy with where I was, just how I

35:14

was being treated. When I met Maury officially

35:17

for the first time, it was the

35:19

weirdest meeting. So

35:21

I'm walking out of the building that we do the

35:23

Roz and Mokey show in and Maury was on the

35:25

street. I was on my way to

35:28

go and do something because I lived next door at

35:30

the time. And I was like, hey, and he goes,

35:32

hey, and I go, what are you doing? And

35:35

he goes, you know, I'm just out doing

35:37

stuff for the show that

35:40

I work for. And I was like, cool.

35:42

And he goes, you know, I work

35:44

as hard for your show too, right? I

35:46

don't know why. I just said it. I

35:48

just said like I would work this hard

35:50

for you. And in that moment, I was

35:52

like, wow, that is incredibly flattering and so

35:55

disloyal. All at the

35:57

same time. My

36:00

guy was hinting. I guess I just really

36:02

wanted to leave where I was. I was

36:04

not happy and then I went to our

36:06

boss and I said hey I think more

36:08

you may want to jump. I. Think

36:10

he may want to make a move. I was

36:13

leaving a giant hands and I believe he picked

36:15

it up. I think Rise came in

36:17

and says this is the guy and we said

36:19

ok don't see let's go make it happen. And.

36:21

So we reached out to I'm an and offered in

36:24

the jaw. By member we

36:26

went to Starbucks and see. You

36:29

know, there was not a lot of small tacos.

36:31

Right down to the. The meat

36:33

of at all and just going a

36:35

you know that the regime mocha show

36:37

they would love to have you? would

36:39

you ever consider leaving and I just

36:41

remember seeing absolutely and I remember my

36:43

like. One question was can I continue

36:45

using the had can spend some more

36:48

He wears his never seen anything like

36:50

this more and more years ahead can

36:52

be basically has a dirty or bicycle

36:54

helmet was that he straps on his

36:56

head with a flip cam fashioned to

36:58

the top of it. The way they

37:00

had some started was in all honesty.

37:02

I created this because I wanted

37:05

a radio host. To be

37:07

able to were in Salem their point

37:09

of view. So he's walking around with

37:11

a helmet and when you see a

37:13

guy with a helmet on first of

37:15

all that has no bike inside you

37:17

automatically such as a sales and then

37:19

I just started wearing a Red carpets

37:21

and celebrities Loved it is Joseph Gordon

37:23

Levitt. Good to see it embodies the

37:25

user so I'm just I'm I'm overwhelmed

37:27

setting out your equipment here. My man

37:29

Morgan Freeman, how are you? I'm hey,

37:31

what are you. Going

37:34

to multitask a market? Asking.

37:37

I'm convinced that Behind him works

37:39

amazingly because people think on carpets

37:41

that I'm special. Like. Special

37:43

means I'm a. Bit

37:47

you know some sort of sir. Churchill.

37:50

Ah say how are you mad? Good

37:52

thing about years like is just from

37:54

afar. I can't think of anything else

37:56

besides the of with overs ever. Man

37:58

would say that about an hour ago,

38:00

literally I can't think of any. When

38:03

I ride sir I see you. I'm

38:05

like oh wait, and I can't get

38:07

my off of yourself. We figured each

38:09

other out on air, much like the

38:11

way molten. I figured each other out,

38:13

you know, on the radio. We figured

38:15

out Mori on the radio we didn't

38:17

have. There was a tonic conversations when

38:19

I first started on the show and

38:21

never forget the day. says.

38:24

Me: See.

38:29

Our producer Mark every time will give his name

38:31

as though it's damage more. Teach them something in

38:34

the junior sit at me. To

38:37

the name dammit mori it was so quick

38:39

with there's no meeting or discussion. it was

38:41

because we can't say because I would screw

38:43

everything up as a damn it more a.

38:46

Because. You can't say spock morning.

38:49

So. That's where it came from. like it

38:51

just wasn't I did this is going be your name

38:53

eg. sort of said it and it stuck. I.

38:55

Think the dynamic change once we

38:57

learned a little bit more about

38:59

Mores life and his personality and

39:02

I figured out a way to

39:04

bring that to the audience so

39:06

that they could learn about Mori.

39:08

the way we've learned about Mori.

39:10

The only thing Mocha ever calls

39:12

Mori is dammit moink as that's

39:15

the way he ends every sentence

39:17

and begins every sense. Why a

39:19

lot of getting imagine is that

39:21

most against all Jews that was

39:23

the wow More got a crush.

39:25

On Her I've added a lot of i really

39:28

do a warm a good seek alone. Hermione on

39:30

Buddy are you do. I

39:34

didn't know a lot about Maureen. I

39:37

knew he was gay. And.

39:39

Even hi Dad and and more will tell

39:41

you that I think that he was like

39:43

that the sort of firsts out gay man

39:46

on radio because even at that time years

39:48

ago when more he was out on the

39:50

radio there were be than a lot of

39:52

people who were out on television. Yes. I

39:57

am. the first

39:59

folio gay man on Canadian

40:01

radio. And I assure you, there's

40:03

been a lot of gay men on the radio, but

40:05

none of them have been as out as I am.

40:08

He was always proud of it, and he never, and

40:10

he never hit it. The way that I came out

40:12

was actually a mistake the first time I came out.

40:15

I was on a news talk station.

40:17

They created this youth show when I

40:19

was on this, and the host accidentally

40:22

said, well, you're gay. I

40:24

was horrified. So my coming

40:26

out, I didn't actually first say it.

40:30

But it was already happened. It happened.

40:33

So on the next show, I'm the gay guy.

40:35

So it just happened. So everywhere I went, I

40:37

was beyond proud to be the gay guy. So

40:39

I accidentally was pushed out of the closet on

40:41

the air. It's

40:44

really incredible. It's really incredible. And

40:46

I still will think about how difficult that

40:49

must have been at a time

40:51

when nobody was doing that. Morrie

40:54

calls me last week and says, I

40:56

don't care if this thing doesn't go to air, but I've

40:58

got to go and interview this guy because he's really hot.

41:00

Morrie, by the way, is that so? Who's

41:03

the guy? Who's the guy that

41:05

you had to interview? Dude, I didn't even remember his name.

41:07

I just call him the hot Abercrombie guy. What's his name?

41:09

I don't even remember his name. Seriously. It's

41:12

Nick Bateman. We say to Morrie, listen, instead of

41:14

just going and meeting this hot guy and having

41:16

the interview throw down the well, go

41:19

and flirt with him and make it really,

41:21

really awkward. And if it's awkward enough, Moko

41:23

listens to it. And if it's good enough

41:25

to play on the show, then we'll play

41:27

it. I think that the messiness of what

41:30

I bring and I think that everything that

41:32

I bring that is messy, I wouldn't

41:35

change that. I think that then

41:37

what am I? Every single

41:39

time, damn it, Morrie's microphone turns on.

41:42

I think disaster is

41:45

going to happen right from the beginning.

41:47

I love making people laugh. I love having

41:49

a little bit of the spotlight for a

41:51

moment to just be silly and be myself.

41:53

So I wouldn't take that away at all.

41:56

Disaster happens. It may not be at the

41:58

very beginning. But

42:00

it will eventually happen because

42:02

we know that at some point it's all going

42:05

to fall apart, but it's going to be awesome.

42:07

When Maury's on the radio, there's always the chance

42:09

that everything is just going to go to hell.

42:11

And I think that that's what makes him so

42:13

fun and so perfect for the show. And I

42:15

think that that's one of the reasons why the

42:18

audience fell in love with him. I

42:21

get so much heat as being

42:24

the one who puts Maury in

42:27

compromising positions, or I get called a

42:29

bully, or I get called all sorts

42:31

of stuff all the time. But the

42:33

one truth is most of those moments,

42:36

most of those things that you hear

42:38

on the radio, the situations that Maury's

42:40

in, those are his idea. Because like

42:43

why not pitch something or create something

42:45

that's going to make me look silly,

42:48

but makes the show hilariously awesome.

42:51

Every single one of them. But guess what?

42:53

They're hilarious. They're hilarious to listen to. They're

42:55

hilarious to watch. The fans love them. And

42:58

the fans, they just never know. We never

43:00

know. Roz and I never know what we're

43:02

going to get when a crazy idea comes

43:04

from from Maury. But

43:06

we know it's going to be funny. And

43:09

we know sometimes it's going to fall flat,

43:11

which makes it even more funny. Today is

43:13

a National Compliment Day, damn it, Maury pointed

43:15

out to me. National Compliment Day. I'll just

43:17

say that I absolutely think, and I say

43:19

this every year, that you are one

43:22

of the greatest people. You

43:24

listen so well, and you're a great person to

43:26

talk to. Thank you so much, Maury. And I

43:28

just want to say, first of all, thank you

43:31

so much for suggesting this, National Compliment Day, because

43:33

I am just so honored to be the first

43:35

person to ever say something nice to you. Now,

43:39

it's too bad this wasn't a roast.

43:43

Oh, no, could you imagine? Because I did write

43:45

this one, but I didn't know how to turn

43:48

it into a compliment, which is, Maury, I just

43:50

want to say that the only thing bigger than

43:52

your nose is the distance between your ego and

43:54

IQ. Happy

43:59

National Compliment Day! A lot

44:01

of that is me running and going,

44:03

oh my god, can we do this? Or, oh my

44:05

god, how silly would it be or how funny would

44:07

it be if I, you know, funneled

44:10

something? Oh god, the funnel. Funneling! Like, Morrie

44:12

built himself this funnel from me. He went

44:15

to Canadian Tire and got all this stuff

44:17

and he built like a funnel, like a

44:19

beer funnel. So Morrie

44:21

decides to make his own funnel. It's like when

44:23

somebody had to make their own sword before going

44:25

into battle. Like, it was just like... So

44:29

you can't buy a funnel on the one that

44:31

I would want. You actually can't buy funnels

44:33

online. It's hard. So

44:36

I have to make

44:38

my own. Fasten my own funnel.

44:41

This is a funnel from... The automotive section at

44:43

Canadian Tire. So it's an oil sort of thing

44:45

funnel. An oil funnel? Yeah, and

44:47

this piece of tube is... From the plumbing section.

44:52

I remember it was a black

44:54

funnel that I would use to

44:56

like, you know, filter

44:58

like the car oil, doing an

45:00

oil change. And then there was

45:02

like this clear tube that

45:04

was taped to the

45:06

bottom of the funnel with like

45:09

rainbow duct tape, I believe. And Morrie was like,

45:11

I want to see if I can funnel some

45:13

certain things. We were like, well, what do you

45:15

want to funnel? And he's like, I don't know,

45:17

like KFC gravy. So

45:20

when I funneled KFC gravy, the

45:22

marketing department behind KFC actually advised not to

45:24

do this, which is very funny, but we

45:26

still did it anyway. Today,

45:29

Morrie, you are going to be funneling

45:32

a full tub of KFC chicken...

45:35

Chicken gravy. Ew! Yo, that gravy is

45:37

good! A full tub of

45:39

KFC gravy is what the... Morrie is going to

45:41

funnel. So on

45:43

funnel days, Dammit Morrie would

45:46

spread a tarp, like a

45:48

drop sheet on the floor. Wait,

45:50

hang on. I got to take my pants off. Why?

45:52

Because I want to be able to put them back on. Most

45:56

days he didn't have a shirt on. I think some days

45:58

he would take a towel... And like

46:00

reverse cape, tie it around his neck.

46:03

Ah, I vaguely remember maybe

46:05

for some reason him wearing

46:07

goggles so that no splatter

46:09

will get him in the eye. So

46:12

the KFC gravy was, it arrived hot.

46:15

Now I'm gonna open. Oh my god,

46:17

it's so warm. I had to, I

46:19

had to heat it. I don't, I'm no savage.

46:21

I'm not gonna give you cold gravy. Oh, it

46:23

smells good. Okay, here we go. Oh man, it

46:25

smells fabulous. Okay, more are you. And I remember

46:28

as Roz was pouring the hot gravy into the

46:30

funnel, that it was steaming

46:32

like hot soup. Oh

46:34

my god, I can't believe we're doing this. What

46:36

do you mean we? Okay,

46:40

so Morrie, if you're ready, put the

46:42

hose in your mouth. Now

46:45

remember, the trick is this, because this is full of

46:47

KFC gravy. Don't stop

46:49

sucking because if you do, it's gonna go

46:52

everywhere. Okay, so don't stop. Do my best.

46:54

You got to take the whole thing, put

46:56

the hose a little bit deeper. And it

46:58

was steaming and smelled like spices. It smells

47:00

great. Okay, so more, are you

47:02

ready? Okay, I'm gonna lift up this

47:04

funnel. And here we go, Morrie. I

47:13

remember the clear tube of the funnel kind

47:15

of fogging up from the steam. And

47:19

Morrie chugging all

47:21

of that KFC gravy

47:23

and it having like a little bit of

47:25

a spice to it. And I remember it

47:27

burning like as it was oozing. It's not

47:29

fast, it was very slow. Oh

47:32

my god, it's burning my throat. It's

47:34

so hot. But

47:37

it's good, I want more. Okay, chuck, chuck,

47:39

chuck, chuck. Oh, yeah,

47:42

you got gravy coming

47:44

out of

47:46

your nose. I'm

47:49

glad you took your shirt off. More.

47:54

More. The KFC gravy was also too sick

47:56

for the funnel, so I was sucking and

47:58

sucking and sucking. burning and

48:00

sucking and like taking breath

48:02

because like sucking and sucking you lose breath

48:04

but you keep on sucking Did I mention

48:06

that he was always down on his knees

48:08

for funnel days in front of Rods? Oh

48:11

it's so hot I'm sweating Oh

48:13

no! I did it! I did it! Oh I'm so

48:15

hot! I won! It

48:36

was one of the most disgusting

48:40

things I

48:42

have ever seen in my life

48:46

I have no problem doing absolutely

48:48

anything that is ridiculous to

48:51

entertain you to make Roz and Mocha

48:53

laugh and us have a good time

48:56

The Roz and Mocha show on Kiss Mo

48:59

sent me earlier a story about the hurricane I

49:01

asked him to get me the latest on the

49:03

hurricane and what he

49:05

sent me in the subject

49:07

matter in the email was

49:09

hurricane but he spelled it

49:11

H-O-R-R-I-C-A-I-N Yeah, Horikine Horikine The

49:16

question that I get more than any other

49:18

question is, is Morrie really like that? Is

49:20

damn it, Morrie really like that? And I'm

49:23

always like, really like what? Right? Because I

49:25

get offended for him. Is Morrie really like that? If

49:30

you listen to the show long enough,

49:33

you know what that means The

49:37

answer to that question is yes, right?

49:41

Like yes, he is a

49:44

savant in certain things

49:47

and a child really in other

49:49

things I think my persona on

49:51

the radio is that fun

49:53

loving silly guy who is okay, I kind

49:56

of not that

49:58

bright We

50:02

knew he was a character. And when

50:04

I say a character, like, Morrie is

50:07

so eccentric in

50:09

particular in the

50:11

way he sees life and

50:14

how he navigates through life. I

50:17

always sort of attribute

50:20

attribute, attribute myself

50:22

to Rose from the Golden Girls. I

50:25

look up to Rose just because I think mentally we're

50:27

the same, but funny. And everybody

50:29

wants to love you. So

50:32

be that as it may, that's

50:35

me. Words, words,

50:37

words. As

50:39

promised, it is spelling bee season.

50:43

Morrie spell spaghetti. S-P-I,

50:47

spaghet, S-P-I-G-E-T-E-T-T-I-T-T.

50:55

Spaghetti, give it a go. S-P-I-G-E-T-E-T-T-I.

51:05

Yes. Spaghetti. No,

51:07

spaghetti. The

51:12

joke that I had always said on the

51:14

show is, you know, damn it, Morrie is

51:16

really, really, really great at some things, just

51:19

not most things. I'm just myself. Like, it's

51:21

not like I'm secretly awesome at math and

51:23

spelling. Ha ha, I got you now. No,

51:25

like this is how I am, this is

51:28

who I am. And

51:30

at my age of a young

51:32

guy, it's too late to change.

51:35

Like what's the point? Like if

51:37

I was gonna change, I would have changed who I

51:39

was earlier. Like I'm not going to math class

51:41

secretly at night. So I can figure out what

51:43

the hell eight plus four is. Well,

51:46

check on you. Eight, nine, 10, 12.

51:55

Coming up on the next episode of the

51:57

history of Raza Moka. I

51:59

was still sort of. figuring it out and still

52:01

trying to get confident enough to do

52:03

something that was loud or

52:06

big or brash. In my mind, Roz

52:08

would always say, hey Mocha, I would

52:10

say yeah. He would say, are

52:12

you ready? I would say yeah. And then

52:14

he'd scream, let's do the news. How that

52:16

actually happened was, Charlie Sheen,

52:18

I had to meet this guy. It

52:20

was like this weirdo friendship that the

52:22

two of them had. They're so desperate

52:24

and they're so jealous that

52:26

anybody cares about somebody other than them. So

52:29

TDOT State of Mind was a take

52:32

on Jay-Z and Alicia Keys, Empire State

52:34

of Mind. And threats

52:36

started to come in of boycotts.

52:38

My phone was blowing up and

52:41

all hell broke loose. People wanted

52:43

us fired and we'd only been

52:46

on the air three

52:48

months. My

52:50

only comment is more of a question.

52:52

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