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is from r slash relationship advice. My

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younger sister, who's ten years younger than

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me, is trying to seduce my husband

0:49

and I'm freaking out. I'm thirty

0:51

year old woman and my twenty year old

0:54

sister has started college in the city that my husband

0:56

and I live in. My husband is twenty eight,

0:58

by the way. There's a housing shortage here,

1:00

and getting your own place can take two to three

1:02

years sometime, so my sister moved in with

1:04

us. We live in a four bedroom apartment.

1:07

She moved in last week in November. Everything

1:09

was great at first. Later,

1:12

I started noticing that she's very

1:14

affectionate with my husband. Whenever

1:17

he works from home, she's also

1:19

home that day, making him sandwiches,

1:21

coffee, etcetera. She

1:23

never uses a shower in a room because

1:25

it's too small. Instead, she

1:27

uses the bigger one in the hall so she can

1:29

walk around in a towel. Sometimes,

1:32

going into the kitchen to make tea when my husband

1:34

is tidying up after She

1:36

stands there in the towel, chit chatting.

1:39

It feels so weird and perverted

1:41

to be honest, because I mean, she's my

1:43

baby sister. I thought that maybe

1:45

I'm overreacting because I seem to

1:47

be the only one noticing anything weird.

1:50

I spoke to my mom about it, but

1:52

she says that it's in my head because my husband

1:54

loves me and my sister loves me

1:56

and I'm just feeling insecure because I'm

1:58

pregnant and I've gained weight. I'm having

2:00

a difficult pregnancy. So yesterday,

2:03

I took a day off and stayed in bed. My

2:05

husband was working from home. My

2:07

sister didn't know that I was home.

2:10

She came home from the gym and she had brought

2:12

lunch with her. She called for my husband

2:14

to join her and I heard her

2:16

loudly saying I bet you wished

2:18

that you had a wife who took care of you like this.

2:20

I went to the kitchen and she was in

2:22

her sports bra and very small

2:25

tight shorts. She was like,

2:27

oh, I didn't know that you were here,

2:29

and she took her lunch and went to her room.

2:32

I don't know what to do about this situation. I've

2:34

mentioned this once to her about her walking

2:36

around in a towel, but she laughed it

2:39

off saying that I was imagining things because I'm

2:41

insecure. If I kicked her out,

2:43

it would mean that she can't continue with her studies

2:45

this year because my parents live five hours

2:47

away. I'm not worried about my husband.

2:50

But I think that what she's doing is disrespectful.

2:53

And for this to continue, one,

2:55

maybe two years is honestly

2:57

exhausting. What the hell is wrong

2:59

with her? She used to be my baby girl.

3:02

And then, OP posted an update.

3:04

Since my mother and sister dismissed me,

3:06

I talked to my husband. He told

3:08

me that he noticed my sister acting

3:10

weird around him. He was however

3:13

very uncomfortable talking to me about

3:15

it since it was my idea that she should live

3:17

with us. He was afraid that I might think

3:19

that he's making things up to kick my sister

3:21

out. He said that on days that

3:23

he's working from home, she's almost

3:25

always home as well. either

3:27

walking around in her underwear or in

3:30

gym clothes. He asked her on

3:32

a number of occasions to put more clothes

3:34

on. She laughed and asked

3:36

him if he's not used to being around confident

3:38

women. She also always talks

3:40

me down in front of him. commenting about

3:42

my bad posture or my old

3:44

age, or I wonder if she'll

3:46

be able to lose hair baby weight.

3:48

I was appalled what the hell is

3:50

wrong with my sister? I've never had

3:52

any problems with her and I've

3:54

always took care of her growing up.

3:56

I decided that she had to leave.

3:59

I've been trying to find a place for her in the city,

4:01

and I know that one of my colleague's

4:03

grandmother's rents rooms for students. She

4:05

lives near campus, so that would be perfect

4:07

for her. I didn't wanna break the news

4:10

myself to her because by now

4:12

I knew what she was going to say that

4:14

I'm jealous and threatened by her.

4:17

So I asked my husband to talk to

4:19

her. Apparently, she broke down

4:21

crying asking him if I put him up

4:23

to this. He told her that this was his

4:25

apartment as much as it is mine, and

4:27

he's not comfortable having her around.

4:29

He told her about the new arrangement we have

4:31

made, but If she didn't like it,

4:33

she was welcome to find a new place on her

4:35

own or move back home. We're letting

4:37

her stay until the end of the month. Today,

4:40

she was so angry

4:42

with me. she told me that if my husband

4:44

really loved me, I wouldn't have felt so

4:46

threatened by her. She was also

4:48

mad because now she'll have to

4:50

pay rent and live in a smaller room.

4:52

I don't know. I feel sorry for

4:54

her, but I'm honestly shocked

4:56

at how callous she is. When did

4:58

this happen? Only yesterday

5:00

she was my baby sister who waited for

5:02

me to come home on holidays and try my

5:04

new clothes and makeup. Now

5:06

she's shut in her room. Only

5:09

speaking to me to call me pathetic and

5:11

insecure. I'm so

5:13

miserable right now. Man,

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with little sisters like these, who

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advice. My parents have five kids,

6:24

a twenty seven year old woman, a twenty

6:26

six year old guy, then me,

6:28

my twin brother, and our adopted brother

6:30

are all twenty three. I'm a twenty three year

6:32

old woman, by the way. John

6:34

was adopted when his biological parents.

6:36

who were close friends with our parents

6:39

died when he was a few months old.

6:41

So this has been a slowly

6:43

building thing for years now, but

6:45

it really got called to everyone's attention

6:47

in the past five years. I remember

6:50

growing up with John normally as any

6:52

siblings would, and all of our siblings

6:54

say the same. We played, we

6:56

fought, we made up, and we broke

6:58

our parent stuff. However,

7:00

the past five years have been somewhat

7:02

strange. At first, I thought

7:04

that it was just John being John,

7:07

but now after I've spoken

7:09

with him, we discovered that it was more

7:11

than we thought. First off,

7:13

John left the day that he turned eighteen,

7:15

which was a surprise because he had

7:17

good grades and everyone assumed

7:19

that he would go to college like the rest of us.

7:21

He graduated one semester early

7:23

and left the house on his eighteenth birthday,

7:26

which was a shock to everyone. He

7:28

earned money doing chore work for our dad

7:30

and uncles had bought his own car

7:32

and apparently saved enough to get

7:34

an apartment. It was weird

7:36

and my parents were sad. but

7:38

more than that, they were proud and

7:40

happy for him. Dad offered John Money

7:42

to help him start life on his own.

7:44

But John refused and said that he would

7:46

be fine. My parents were insanely

7:48

proud of John. They're not typically

7:50

the brag about my kid kind of people,

7:52

but they were telling everyone how independent,

7:55

responsible, mature and fearless

7:57

John was. Now it's important to

7:59

note that us siblings were always fairly

8:01

close. I cried the first

8:03

night John was gone. and I

8:05

wanted my dad to figure out a way to make

8:07

him come back because I was scared

8:09

that he would die or something. So

8:11

when his communication suddenly dropped

8:14

to almost nothing. It was weird

8:16

and we missed him. But our

8:18

parents said that he was busy working and

8:20

taking care of himself and that when

8:22

he was settled and figured things out, he'd be

8:24

back to his normal self. That never

8:26

happened though. And also,

8:28

John just kind of stopped talking to

8:30

us. He would talk to us around birthdays

8:32

and holidays, but even then

8:35

that was strange. Basically,

8:37

every time he saw us, he was just in

8:39

and out. For example, our older

8:41

brother was the only other sibling there

8:43

when John was there for mom's most recent

8:45

birthday. And he said that John

8:47

was very clinical and

8:49

that it felt more like a soldier was paying

8:51

respect to a commanding officer than

8:53

anyone visiting their parents.

8:55

Blending about this that stood out

8:57

was that John talked to our mom, dad and

8:59

brother about a lot of things going on in his

9:01

life. Apparently, he got

9:03

a girlfriend just got a dog and

9:05

has a great new job in construction.

9:08

No one knew any of this and

9:10

dad cracked a joke about how their

9:12

terrible parents because how could they not know

9:14

anything about what's going on in one of their

9:16

kids lives? After John

9:18

left, our mom looked sad.

9:20

And when our older brother asked her what was

9:22

wrong, she said that it felt like John didn't

9:24

wanna be around her and that she missed

9:26

him, but she refused to say

9:28

anything more about it. So our older

9:30

brother started a group chat with everyone

9:32

except John to ask if any of us had

9:34

noticed anything wrong with him. We'd all

9:36

briefly talked about how distant John had been

9:38

over the years, but this was our

9:40

first serious talk together.

9:42

At the end of it, we all arranged to meet up

9:44

with John and try to talk to him to make sure

9:46

that everything was okay. It

9:48

took some effort to get him to open

9:50

up, but he finally did.

9:53

And what he said has

9:55

really rocked our family. he

9:57

said, I'm not their real

9:59

son. We all immediately tried to

10:01

reassure him that mom and dad love him and

10:03

that we do too, but he

10:05

had all these stories about how mom and

10:07

dad treated him differently. There

10:09

were lots of examples, like

10:11

his older brother would hug mom and

10:13

kiss her on the cheek. But if

10:15

John tried to do the same, she would

10:17

push him off. Dad would happily

10:19

talk about sports with anyone, but

10:21

he would be short with John. Our

10:24

grandparents were never excited to see

10:26

him. His aunts and uncles weren't

10:28

interested in him and his hobbies or what was

10:30

going on at school. One incident

10:32

was the dad asked each boy to go on a

10:34

hunting trip, and he never asked

10:36

John. And when they were

10:38

leaving, John asked and you could tell

10:40

dad was annoyed. My brothers

10:42

confirmed this one because they thought that it

10:44

was weird how dad acted. When

10:46

John that he was fine and he wasn't going,

10:48

my brother said that dad looked

10:50

happy about it. John would ask for help

10:52

with school work, But mom or

10:54

dad would say that they were tired or tell them to

10:56

ask teachers. But they would stay

10:58

up for the rest of us. You get

11:00

the idea. There was a lot of stuff

11:03

and enough of us witnessed it that

11:05

we don't think that he was misremembering things

11:07

or making them up. John wasn't

11:09

bitter or angry about this.

11:11

He said that he understood that they wouldn't be

11:13

able to love him the same way that they

11:15

loved us. and he said

11:17

it would be inhumid of me to ask

11:19

that of them, which broke my

11:21

heart. He said that he

11:23

refused the money from dad because he

11:25

would have felt bad about him using it

11:27

on him instead of on his

11:29

real children. He said that he'll

11:31

always love them and respect

11:33

them and be grateful for their

11:35

sacrifices for raising him. But that

11:37

it was too painful to be around them

11:39

for too long because he knew

11:41

they couldn't be what he wanted and he

11:43

couldn't be what they wanted. Our

11:45

older sister was impassioned by this

11:47

and told my parents about it. It

11:49

was a Show. Our mom

11:51

cried and our dad punched a wall.

11:53

They're both ashamed and

11:55

heard and insist that they love him just as

11:57

much as they do the rest of us. Now that

11:59

John knows that our parents know that he's

12:01

upset, he's apprehensive about

12:03

coming around, which is understandable.

12:05

We love our brother and our

12:07

parents love them too and we all miss

12:09

them. How do we fix this?

12:12

Okay. I realize there's an update

12:14

that's probably gonna change the story, but I'm just

12:16

gonna take a pause here and say, this

12:18

last sentence kinda bothers me because it

12:20

sounds like OP is like really on her

12:22

brother's side and she wants to, like, advocate

12:24

for her brother. But when she says, we love

12:26

our brother and our parents love them too and we all

12:28

miss them how do we fix this. I get kind

12:30

of like upset about that because

12:32

clearly objectively the

12:35

parents don't love John the same way they love

12:37

everyone else. John's literally

12:39

telling o p what the problem is, and

12:42

OP's responses to be like, but

12:44

no, we all love you. We really do. How

12:46

do we fix this? Man, listen.

12:48

John's telling you, listen. The way

12:50

that you fix this o p is that you

12:52

have to treat John like a brother. You

12:54

have no control over John's relationship

12:56

with his parents, but you do have

12:58

control over your relationship with John.

13:00

So start therapy and

13:02

please don't belittle his experience by

13:04

saying, no, our parents

13:06

really do love you. I promise

13:08

because that's just not his experience

13:10

at all. Anyways, OP posted

13:12

an update. Let's see where this

13:14

goes. The first people I really wanted to

13:16

talk to were my parents. I didn't

13:18

share everything John shared with us in the thread

13:20

that I made, but they were

13:22

so many things my parents had done that

13:24

were just downright cruel. The

13:27

conversation was fairly quiet

13:29

and extremely emotional. When

13:31

I detailed the things that John remembered,

13:33

I began to cry and it

13:35

hurt even more because I almost

13:37

wanted my parents to deny it.

13:39

I wanted them to be certain that they would never

13:41

do anything so mean and that

13:44

maybe John was remembering things wrong,

13:46

but they never denied it. When

13:48

I brought up specific instances, you

13:51

could see them turn their heads or eyes

13:53

away in shame. They would

13:55

get up in pace put their heads

13:57

down, but never deny.

13:59

When I asked them about it, most

14:01

times they said they didn't realize they were

14:03

doing something or that they were too careless.

14:05

they kept saying that there was no excuse for

14:07

it. I asked my father specifically about the

14:10

hunting trip that he didn't invite John

14:12

on, and he said that he had asked the

14:14

other boys and it just

14:16

never crossed his mind to go out of the way to

14:18

ask John. I asked them both why they

14:20

didn't help him with homework or make

14:22

sure that their eighteen year old leaving home

14:24

had a solid plan and would be

14:26

safe. I never got a response

14:28

on that. I asked my mom

14:30

about why she pushed John away whenever he

14:32

tried to be affectionate towards her

14:34

and her response is one that

14:36

really leaves me at a loss. She

14:38

was very honest and said that in

14:40

her mind, she couldn't ignore the fact that he

14:42

was a sexually mature

14:45

male who was not biologically

14:47

related. She said that it felt

14:49

no different having my other brother's

14:51

hugging kisser as babies as it would

14:53

today. but that around the time that John went through

14:55

puberty, she couldn't see him as one

14:57

of her babies anymore. You

14:59

know what? Oh my

15:01

god. Okay. Okay.

15:03

She said that her instinct

15:05

then then became to protect her

15:07

daughters just in case.

15:09

She said that it was hard and that she

15:11

wasn't happy about it, but she'd

15:13

rather have protected us and gone

15:15

too far to John's detriment than been

15:17

lax to our detriment. She

15:19

said that when John left, she

15:21

felt relieved. After talking

15:23

with them, I spoke with my older

15:25

sister who was still very

15:27

angry. Same thing with our

15:29

other siblings. We, the siblings,

15:31

love John so much, and won

15:33

them back in our lives like before.

15:35

We don't want to lose him. We

15:37

reached out to John, and it was a

15:39

bittersweet conversation to have.

15:41

We both were happy to be talking to

15:43

each other. We still have our inside jokes

15:45

and things like that, and we can hang out like

15:47

nothing ever happened. But when

15:49

we spoke about reestablishing our

15:51

old relationship, he said that it would be

15:53

difficult. He said that he would love to

15:55

be my brother, but that he

15:57

feels gross around us girls because of

15:59

mom and that he feels like less

16:01

than around our brothers. He said

16:03

that loneliness sucks, but

16:05

that it's better than feeling like people would

16:07

rather not have you around. He

16:09

said that he felt like a family friend who everyone

16:12

liked, but who stuck around too

16:14

long. We both ended up crying.

16:16

It was very ugly.

16:18

we at least decided that we would try to be siblings

16:20

for each other. Down in the comments, I'm

16:22

gonna read this reply from Gluckskind

16:25

because it really resonated with

16:27

me. John was punished on so many levels

16:29

just for purely existing. Like,

16:31

yeah, what did John do? What did he do?

16:33

His parents died and his

16:35

adoptive parents respond by abusing

16:38

him even more. And so,

16:40

like, how messed up is it?

16:42

To treat a twelve year old, probably like

16:44

between eleven to thirteen year old

16:46

boy. as like a sexual predator.

16:48

Like man, who has a

16:50

eleven year old child that you've raised for like

16:52

ten to eleven years and immediately

16:54

thanks I have to protect my daughters

16:56

from this predator. Really

16:59

disgusting behavior, o p. If I

17:01

ring your shoes, 0PI would work

17:03

really hard to rebuild my relationship with

17:05

John. Also, I would be seriously

17:08

reevaluating my relationship with my

17:10

parents. I mean, yeah, I'm

17:12

sure you your parents because you had like a decent relationship

17:14

with them growing up. But how could

17:16

you even look at your parents the same

17:18

way after you know that they literally

17:20

abused your brother? because I know I

17:22

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