0:01

Possession crucial from this, how much longer will the

0:03

referee allow? Dublin lead by his own. And there's

0:05

the whistle, it's over, it's over! We

0:07

earned it by winning the last two matches on the

0:10

road and that's not going to be taken away from

0:12

us. What I love in hurling, I love players that

0:14

never give in. He hits it, he hits

0:16

it, it's over the bar! Oh,

0:19

holy Moses! Hello

0:22

everybody and welcome along to our latest episode of

0:24

the RTGA Podcast, a double weekend of hurling and

0:26

football action. Neil McManus will be allowing to chat

0:28

hurling a little bit later on, but as you

0:30

can see Mark McHugh is with myself on Rory

0:32

now to chat football. How are you getting on

0:35

Mark? Hey, thanks

0:37

for inviting me on. Great

0:39

weekend in sports, so getting stuff out of the man. Yeah,

0:41

a lot of good stuff. Certainly

0:43

was. Let's look at Division 1 then, the

0:46

headlines. Big win for the dubs against Kerry

0:48

in Croker. Eight points from Darren McCurry helped

0:50

Tyrone to a much needed four-point win over

0:52

Mayo. Derry made it four from four with

0:55

victory against Galway and Sol Till and Ross

0:57

Common got a badly needed first win of

0:59

the campaign against a struggling Monaghan. Let's start

1:01

with that one in Croke Park, Mark, because

1:04

I don't know if it's Dublin being brilliant

1:06

or Kerry being slightly off it or is it

1:08

a little bit of both? I think we

1:10

all figure out the Dublin still leading the

1:12

catch in this championship, hey, with the way

1:14

they played. You know, that's a bit of

1:16

a marker. I don't care what anybody says.

1:18

They say you can argue with Kerry wearing

1:20

that, but Dublin

1:23

were awesome in that first half. You know, even if

1:25

you think about the people in the mess, and I

1:28

know we don't say that about every team, but

1:31

the fluidity they have and they're feeding

1:33

Connor Callan again and they're

1:35

getting the rewards for it. He's, we know what

1:37

he's like. I

1:40

was actually thinking about this. Why

1:42

have you come into such form? I was

1:44

thinking back last year, King Kilkenny

1:46

didn't play an awful lot last year. I know he ended

1:48

up playing the final, but I think he got a shoulder

1:50

injury. He didn't start a lot of the games for Dublin.

1:53

He feeds him a lot. You know, things happen

1:55

around Kilkenny and they've

1:58

seen whatever. Whatever

2:00

they've done this last few weeks, you give Brainstak

2:02

a bit of a roast match again and

2:05

Tag Morley this weekend. So if

2:07

you leave him one-on-one, good

2:09

luck to the man mark in them,

2:11

I think. Even Leakey said, he knows

2:14

how to tag Morley, he can do

2:16

that to anybody. But Dublin, yeah,

2:18

they were super high and I think they took the

2:21

foot off the gas a week, but I suppose Clifford

2:23

had a chance to take it back to maybe two

2:25

at a stage in the second half and

2:28

he biased it over the bar. But I

2:30

think they just opted a gear again in

2:32

the end. Even Howard came on and settled

2:34

things, that experience. He wanted a few kickouts,

2:36

but no, super. Were

2:39

you surprised with Kerry Rory? Because I was in

2:41

Croke Park on Saturday night and there's a lot of Kerry

2:43

people around me and they were a bit shell-shocked by what

2:45

they were seeing. That's

2:48

a good point to make, Jackie. There was a nice

2:50

crowd in Croke Park. It was rare

2:52

enough to see the upper tiers open and

2:54

it made for what you

2:57

would hope was a good atmosphere. The game

2:59

was a start. Yeah, you know, the game

3:01

started, it got off a really good start.

3:03

It was up and down end to end.

3:05

It was really open, it was really loose.

3:07

It kind of felt in a roundabout way.

3:09

It was the kind of beginning to the

3:11

match that maybe a lot of us were

3:13

expecting in the All-Ireland Final last July, which

3:15

we didn't get because it was a much

3:17

more cagey affair. Now maybe

3:20

that is a pointer for

3:22

Kerry in that I was quite

3:24

critical of Kerry after last year's All-Ireland

3:27

Final insofar as I felt go

3:29

after the game. Now maybe we got

3:31

our answer on Saturday night

3:33

in that they played much more open, much

3:35

more loose and got ferocious trimming in that

3:38

first half. No, double and more incredible, Jackie.

3:40

I mean, I think they scored 2-8 or

3:42

2-9 in that first half, which

3:45

was 11 shots out of 12 on

3:47

target. I don't know what percentage that might be,

3:49

but it's off the charts. And

3:52

then obviously, as you mentioned, Con, the

3:54

occasion was fantastic. We had fireworks on

3:56

the pitch, we had fireworks off the

3:58

pitch because it was a firework came

4:00

flying in onto the pitch at

4:02

one stage from the crowd. There was obviously

4:05

the protest for Gaza, which was a

4:08

lovely site and a

4:11

really nice thing for people to do. I

4:14

think Kerry, from their point of view, was there any positives

4:16

that they could take out of it? Look, they got a

4:19

nine point gap down to three at one stage, they got

4:21

one two just after the break, a little bit of a

4:23

mini revival. But they've huge issues.

4:26

They have plenty of time to fix it. That's the

4:28

only thing. I think midfield is a big problem for

4:30

them, Jackie. It has been, I think, the fact is,

4:33

Jack Barry's. Jack Barry will become a better

4:36

player over the next few

4:38

weeks, right? And his

4:40

stock will actually rise as

4:42

the weeks go on, because for all

4:44

the faults and fivals and the criticisms

4:46

that people may have had of him,

4:49

he was able to get a handle on Fenton

4:51

in the way that many teams cannot. And

4:54

there are

4:56

the options that they have in and around there. And

4:58

I dare I say it, it

5:01

might be the case because I didn't think Sean O'Shea had

5:03

a very good game. And it might

5:05

be the case that they may have to look at now, they

5:08

have said they have time, but they might have to look at

5:10

bringing Sean O'Shea back out to midfield. Would they get more out

5:12

of him? If he was

5:14

out around that area of the field, they'd

5:16

certainly get more ballroom options from their kickouts,

5:18

which I think Dublin just pressed them into

5:20

absolute submission. So yeah, look, it

5:23

was, I think, possibly mentioned it last night,

5:25

difficult heart, but this thing probably can't really

5:27

last too long because a

5:29

long year ahead yet. Yeah. So if you're

5:32

in Jack O'Connor's position, then, Mark, are

5:34

you thinking about those points that Rory

5:36

has made there? Are you thinking, right, midfield is actually

5:38

genuinely a problem now that we need to address? Or

5:41

where do you think he's sitting now in terms of

5:43

trying to get his house in order ahead of the

5:45

next couple of weeks?

5:47

We all know that the Kerry traditional fopplers and

5:50

all that, but I think he's setting the pace

5:52

and he has to play sweet for against Dublin

5:54

if he plays them because

5:57

he cannot afford to give that space to the

5:59

Dublin and South forward. going forward.

6:01

He will look at that 100% agree

6:03

with Rory about the midfield. They haven't

6:05

replaced him anymore. The last couple of

6:07

years I just don't think they've replaced

6:09

him. They need to

6:11

find somebody, maybe a Sean O'Shea. There's a

6:14

few games left in the league. They're

6:17

probably going to be safe. Why not

6:19

try different things and he might have

6:21

to. The Dublin matchups surprised

6:24

me. Merchant on Clifford was a real... That was

6:26

very interesting. You

6:30

can look at it two sizes, suppose the coin, did he have a

6:32

good game or did he... Clifford

6:34

still got the gold chances that he

6:36

had and he could have maybe kicked

6:38

three, three, three or three, three, two.

6:42

When it comes back to the stats, one merchant had

6:44

a very good game. That actually

6:46

just was a pure left field call. But

6:48

he doesn't fire a fair play. I wouldn't

6:50

have thought it anyway. But John

6:52

Small seems to have the upper hand

6:54

of Paddy Clifford when they meet. Even

6:57

Sean O'Shea was out of the game as well.

6:59

There are things he's going to look at because

7:01

we know and I think everybody in Ireland knows

7:04

if you take them three people out of the

7:06

carry, you're a long, long way to beating them.

7:08

He'll have to find something

7:10

to either get them more in the game

7:12

and tighten up the... It might

7:14

be a palm warfare or something like that as to

7:16

come in as a sweeper, but he has to tighten

7:19

that up. So Paddy Talley will definitely be using his

7:21

Ulster Pro-Ester in there to

7:23

try to get a free turn place if

7:25

they do meet further down the line. Yeah.

7:28

Well, look, we expect that they probably will.

7:31

So no need to spend too

7:33

much time talking about both of those teams because a lot of

7:35

the interesting stuff is actually kind of happening behind them on the

7:38

table in a way. You look at Tyrone's performance

7:40

at the weekend, Mark, that second half display,

7:42

I think probably gave us a sign

7:44

of what they can do. I think

7:46

the frustration about watching Tyrone over the last couple of weeks

7:49

is we haven't really seen them do that. So are

7:51

we now looking at Tyrone that are closer to the

7:53

finished product of what we might expect to see from

7:55

them in the championship or is it the fact that

7:57

Mayo kind of just let them back into the game?

8:00

I'm not fully sure.

8:02

It was a strange game. In the

8:04

first half, even though Mayo

8:06

weren't great, they were probably bullying Toronto a

8:08

wee bit and they were doing what to

8:10

Toronto, what Toronto has done to teams for

8:12

the last number of years. I

8:14

don't think you can make it changes to any team.

8:16

Manf that they couldn't make it changes this

8:18

weekend and think they're going to be fluid

8:20

in the way they play. When

8:24

you have a more settled team, it's more easier

8:26

to perform. Even though

8:29

Mayo were in the game, in

8:31

the first half, they weren't great.

8:34

All Toronto really needed was a bit of help for

8:37

Dyer McQuarrie to get things going. They did

8:42

come out with a complete different

8:44

hunger, complete different bite

8:46

in the second half back to

8:49

where they were. They've beaten

8:51

Mayo team in my view that had a lot of changes

8:53

and a lot of people

8:55

didn't know exactly what they were

8:57

doing. I'm not sure. Have we

9:00

seen the full extent of

9:02

thrown yet? I watched

9:04

them against Galway last week and they

9:06

weren't great either. The

9:10

question is, why did

9:12

it take Dyer McQuarrie's mop eventually? He was

9:14

named the star in the last two weeks.

9:16

Why didn't he start? That's probably why the

9:18

people thrown are asking. He didn't feature against

9:20

Galway until he did look injured. He

9:25

came on and changed the game. He was brilliant. When

9:28

the two of them were in time, when

9:30

you took Mark E forwards for a team

9:32

to mark, it's extremely tough. Going

9:35

back to the last couple of years, Dyer

9:37

McQuarrie has been the next one forward for

9:39

Toronto. When he was playing, Mark Bradley, Cal

9:41

McShane, he was always a man kicking the

9:43

scores. It's good to see him back in

9:45

a bit of form. I wouldn't read

9:47

too much into Mayo. They made a lot of changes.

9:50

I think the

9:53

Ross Common may all give next weekend. We'll see

9:55

maybe at

9:58

Holman, Cal a whole more

10:00

settled male team. Yeah, I

10:02

think that's fair from the male's point of view.

10:05

From Tyrone's point of view though Rory, Mark is

10:07

right, it's nice to see Darren McCurry kicking eight

10:09

points, but I think if you're Tyrone, you can't

10:11

really afford to not have him playing week on

10:13

week. So to get him back, to get him

10:15

integrated and certainly for Canavan to have somebody to

10:17

play off is going to help them immeasurably. Yeah,

10:19

well, we had the Twin Towers for Kerry a

10:22

couple of years ago. It's like the Twin Bungalows

10:24

from Tyrone. They'll love you

10:26

for that one. The

10:30

second half, the whole thing just

10:32

turned on its head. Mayo

10:35

couldn't get going at all, but Tyrone

10:37

hooked a completely different side. And it

10:39

all did come about really with McCurry's

10:41

introduction at half-time. He just

10:43

sparked something, he sparked something between himself and

10:45

Tyrone Canavan, takes the pressure off. I

10:48

mean both of them, accuracy, top

10:50

class, low centre of gravity, both with

10:52

the ability to kick scores from difficult

10:54

angles. They're very difficult to knock

10:57

off the ball. They're both incredibly brave and

10:59

they'll constantly show for you, which

11:02

is great if you're looking to try and turn

11:04

that defence from, you're looking to

11:06

try and switch that ball from defence

11:08

to attack quite quickly. Tyrone

11:10

playing to that pitch, Jackie, that

11:12

they played in that second half. If they

11:14

can play to that pitch most

11:17

weeks and play for 45, 50 minutes, you're

11:19

never going to do it for 70 because there's a

11:22

team on the field, obviously. But if they can play

11:24

to that pitch, there'll be a match for anyone in

11:26

the championship, in the Ulster Championship and going further on.

11:28

They fully deserve their two points. And it makes for

11:30

a very interesting Division I now, going

11:33

into the final three games. Yeah, it does. It

11:35

means that there's actually something to play for and

11:37

all of them now going out, which is brilliant.

11:39

Because Division I has been great, to be fair.

11:41

I think we've all said, Mark, that Derry have

11:43

been the team of Division I so far. I

11:45

think given their performance at the weekend, albeit

11:47

Galway still missing a lot of players, I think

11:49

the way that you're watching them, they are a

11:51

team who are developing momentum and they've done

11:53

nothing to tell us that they won't be

11:55

the contenders for the Ulster Championship and indeed for

11:58

bigger honours, maybe later in the year. the

12:00

year because they look like they're getting better and better. On

12:03

the first round of the Allston, they've no chance. No

12:05

chance against them. But no, you're

12:10

100%. There have been the team of

12:12

the league. And I don't buy this

12:14

whole peaking too early. The split season

12:16

now is a completely different kettle, which

12:18

it was a few years ago. I

12:20

heard a few year pundits there on

12:22

different things, saying it's only February and

12:24

stuff of that. The championship started in

12:26

the March. I would rather be playing

12:28

well right now

12:32

than hoping that I'm going to be playing well in a few

12:34

weeks' time. I'm very at the

12:36

minute to have them bosses

12:38

tick. I watched

12:40

a lot of highlights of that game, and I raced

12:43

through it. But there was big

12:45

calls in that game. I felt Galway

12:48

had the double goal opportunity to get a

12:50

goal, to go point up right after half-time.

12:52

And then two minutes later, a strange

12:55

call in my view for the

12:57

black card. That's a tackle. The ball

12:59

went over the bar, so we played

13:01

away. I couldn't figure it

13:04

out. I killed the game. It finished

13:06

it as a contest. It's a double

13:09

whammy as well, Maric, so you can

13:11

see the penalty and you're also down

13:13

a player. So it's a real kick

13:16

in the backside. I'm

13:19

not saying I disagree with the rule. It's

13:21

actually a good rule. I just don't think

13:23

it's been a...we spoke about the 0-1. I

13:25

thought it was Cormac Quinn. I thought

13:27

that was just a good challenge. At the last,

13:29

this challenge, it wasn't finical. He tried to stop

13:31

the ball coming. Toronto three men sitting there. Was

13:33

that a penalty in the black card? I don't

13:35

think so. Well, the thing is,

13:37

Maric, wasn't it supposed to be that it's cynical

13:40

and they're doing it's a deliberate trip. Whereas I

13:42

think if you're making a genuine attempt to play

13:44

the ball and there's an umpire and a referee

13:46

on either side of the player who can see

13:48

clearly, I think between the two, you should be able to

13:50

make a decision that he's trying to play the ball there.

13:53

That's why I suppose par choice would be really,

13:55

really annoyed. Like they said, they killed the game.

13:57

Okay, they can take the blame for messing the

13:59

goal, Sam. but I don't know, I

14:01

came along, he put himself in the

14:03

bad position and I hadn't passed, but

14:06

I just thought he just tried to put him off anyway he could.

14:08

It wasn't that he was trying to find him or hurt him or

14:10

anything like that and he should have been

14:13

played away. Same with the throw one. If

14:15

you want to argue the one that probably

14:17

was the best goal and scored an opportunity

14:19

from town, Michael Langens, that

14:21

he was fouled and there was no black

14:23

card there. So as managers and

14:26

coaches and players, people just want to see a wee

14:29

bit of consistency and I think that really is a

14:31

wee bit up in the air, especially after this weekend

14:33

because it was used so much. It

14:36

just needs to be more

14:38

clear for players and managers because

14:41

the two that they call, I

14:43

thought were poor. Plenty of work

14:45

for Jim Gavin and Eamon Fitzmaurs and the

14:47

star stud at football review committee. Some review

14:49

committee to be fair, if I was looking

14:52

to put some people in charge of football,

14:54

I think they've picked well. They are going

14:56

to be busy. Yeah, fair play to them.

14:58

Maliki O'Rourke is in there, Colum Collins is

15:01

in there, Colum Nally, brilliant coach, good brains.

15:03

Who's on that Mark? James

15:08

Horn, I think I read this morning there.

15:10

He's involved in it as well. So a

15:12

lot of good people, if they can't fix

15:14

it, I don't think anyone can. But to

15:16

go back to there, they're probably

15:22

going to want to win the Ireland, but definitely

15:24

be Tony Goll and that's actually it. But

15:26

no, I'm not saying they're well ahead.

15:28

I don't know,

15:31

has it been the most injury hit league I've ever

15:33

seen throughout all the divisions? The Connor Dougherty go

15:36

off holding a hammer again on, as I said,

15:38

I see. He's

15:41

a big player for Derry. Yeah, but I was

15:43

just asking him to say Derry is probably the only team

15:45

that actually has their fouls, so it's nearly the play of

15:47

every week. I know

15:49

they have a small pound, maybe

15:51

19 or 20 players at the play regularly, but looking

15:54

at Galway, Meo, Ross Common, Monaghan,

15:57

their injury list is not as

15:59

bad. not as huge. So they've

16:01

been consistent. They seem to buy into whatever Mickey

16:03

Hart has brought. As I said, the boys, you'd

16:05

see that from the boys, the Glen boys have

16:07

come in right back in there as well without

16:09

really taking a break. They know what's there for

16:12

them. They know how close they've got the last

16:14

few years. So that's the next step is the

16:18

All-Ireland. Now, I read a

16:20

stat that no manager has won two

16:22

All-Irelands with two different teams.

16:24

So Mickey Hart, if

16:27

that doesn't go both well for him. But as a running

16:29

man can change it, I'm sure he can. Nice

16:32

little one to fire in there. Good and

16:34

early now, Mark. Get them sparking ahead of

16:36

a classic. Why not? That'll

16:38

be a big hit. Ah, yeah, it will.

16:40

Next couple of weeks before that are going to be

16:43

pretty big too though, Rory. Because when you look at,

16:45

I think particularly Roscommon getting a win at the weekend,

16:48

Monaghan now under severe pressure. I know we talk about

16:50

them all the time saying, oh, they managed to survive.

16:52

They managed to survive. It'll be some Houdini if they

16:54

survive this year because that's a third dropping in a

16:56

row. And I think maybe

16:58

the Kerry and Derry ones you might have said they saw

17:01

coming. I don't think they would have seen a

17:03

dropping against Roscommon coming at the weekend.

17:05

No, it was a great response from

17:07

Roscommon in many ways because we

17:10

had a call to arms. If you

17:12

want to phrase it like that

17:14

from Davey Burke last weekend, it did seem

17:16

to provoke a reaction. They became

17:19

more or less sewn up, I think, by half. They

17:21

had a big lead. They went in, discoursed into a

17:23

big lead and they had the games on and dusted.

17:26

I think they will settle down Roscommon. Like,

17:28

I mean, the reality from Division one's perspective

17:30

outside of Derry, who should be, who should

17:32

be pretty much in a league final, I'd

17:34

imagine at this stage, given the fact that

17:36

they have eight points now will be an

17:38

interesting game between themselves and Dublin next weekend.

17:40

But any two from the other seven could

17:42

potentially still be relegated because, you know,

17:45

there's only two points separating the other seven teams.

17:48

Will Monaghan be unduly worried? I think they

17:51

will to a degree. Obviously Rory Beggin, Conor

17:53

McManus, a lot of experience going out of

17:55

the dressing room. They're going to need those

17:57

guys back, I suppose, for the run. and

18:00

just to try and give themselves some chance to stay in

18:02

up. But they've been in this situation so many times before.

18:04

So if there's anybody that's not going to be panicked

18:07

by the notion of having to

18:11

pitch for a last ditch survival bid, it's

18:13

going to be Monaghan, it's going to be

18:15

Vinny Corey. It's the manner though of the

18:17

defeat. I suppose that's going to rankle as

18:19

you said, like they're not taking one

18:22

or two point defeats. The last

18:24

couple now have been heavy, beaten

18:26

well by Kerry, beaten well obviously

18:29

yesterday by Ross Common. So

18:31

these things will be difficult to fix in

18:33

the short term, makes next

18:35

weekend huge from their point of view. But you

18:37

know, look, it'll be very interesting to see what

18:39

happens now. What

18:42

about Ross Common then Mark? Look, you've obviously been

18:44

involved there in recent years, the spike

18:46

in performance for them at the weekend to be able to

18:48

go and turn things around after that call to arms, as

18:50

Rory has put it. What sort of a position do you

18:52

think they're in now? I

18:54

think their position has changed a while lot

18:57

and having one one, they're going to need

18:59

to find points elsewhere. I

19:01

was delighted actually to see they've

19:04

been a bit injury struck

19:07

and I suppose with clubs and everything at the start of the league

19:09

as well. So to get the

19:11

first one, it's a great to see

19:14

for them. David spoke at the start of the

19:16

league about his home matches. They're three home matches,

19:18

they have three out of four points from their

19:20

home games. I know they've carried

19:23

home, but ultimately it's still a home

19:25

game. And if they can get points out

19:27

of that, it should

19:29

see them safe. It'll be

19:31

a battle next weekend going into the Castle

19:33

of Arr, obviously. And imagine they'll also be

19:35

looking for some sort of reaction as well.

19:38

But if he can get

19:40

another one, I think four

19:42

or five might keep you up, you know, because I don't always, you

19:44

know, even from

19:46

Mona's point of view, one was,

19:49

you know, they have, they've gone away on throw.

19:53

So they'll be tired in the end games. Mona

19:56

and just do seem to be kind of, I

19:58

think they've only said they've two serves. of

20:00

their team come started the 11th and 17th

20:02

last year missing and if you take that

20:05

to many any team it's very hard but

20:07

no on Ross Common you know they have

20:10

it's in again it's in their own hands

20:12

they wouldn't have been probably happy with their first few

20:14

performances maybe and the way they went especially up in

20:16

Oma but hard to win in Oma

20:18

you know. Mayo will tell you that that's why

20:20

I think always victory last weekend was a

20:22

super result for them and that probably

20:24

just eased a wee bit of pressure off with all-way

20:26

ones because and

20:29

I don't think I would have suspected that because Thrawn

20:31

usually won their home games no matter who they're playing

20:33

against so home games is huge

20:36

and that's what I think David did speak with that

20:38

at the time of the league so they'll focus on

20:40

definitely next two and then who knows they have Derry

20:42

away in the last game Derry could be ready in

20:44

the league final what kind of team did they put

20:46

out same as you know Marlon went down

20:49

to Mayo last year in the last in the

20:51

last game where you know

20:53

Mayo put out a second team and they want these things

20:55

to happen towards in the league and nobody can control it

20:57

so it's very very tight

20:59

you said anybody can go up and everybody can

21:01

go down or we can make the league final

21:03

or anybody can go down so the league's a

21:06

great competition isn't it it's probably

21:08

the best of all so get

21:10

to chatting on it. Yeah look it's been

21:13

fantastic Division one finally poised Division two I

21:15

think the game of the weekend Rory, Armagh,

21:17

Donny Gull you look at them playing out

21:19

that Thrawn. I listened to both

21:21

Kieran McGinney and Jim McGinnis talking afterwards about what they

21:23

got out of it you know and to them I

21:25

think both of them looked like they were gearing for

21:27

this to be like a championship like scenario certainly based

21:29

on their body language on the sideline both of them

21:32

wanted to win I didn't think there was any shadow

21:34

boxing and maybe we didn't really know where we were

21:36

going to get but I think both of them were

21:38

kind of saying they were quite keen to get to

21:40

the eight points and neither of them managed to get

21:42

there with a draw probably a fair result. Yeah I

21:44

think a draw was fair and I think you're right

21:47

in terms of it was as close to championship forever

21:49

as you're going to get the first

21:51

thing you'd have to say about it must be

21:53

great to play for Armagh because like

21:55

huge crowd huge crowd again you'll always play

21:57

in front of big crowds I think That's

22:00

like, that's incredible support. And I think it's, it's

22:02

a brilliant thing. If you do have that kind

22:04

of support in behind, in behind you, a bit

22:06

of a standoff for the first 10 minutes. Neither

22:09

team taking too many chances. I think it was one,

22:12

you know, heading into 10 minutes, but it was a

22:14

cagey enough affair at times, but still there was some

22:16

unbelievable, some unbelievable, um, some

22:18

unbelievable skills on show. I think in

22:21

fairness from Donny Gull's perspective, they had

22:23

two really good goal chances. Pader Morgan,

22:25

you know, credible shot comes off the

22:27

upright. He

22:29

was definitely going for goal, rasp of a

22:31

shot. And then obviously the penalty. No,

22:34

they take those, they win the game.

22:36

There's no question, but it's on such

22:38

fine margins. Um, I

22:40

think really in goal from RMA,

22:42

what a ball in from Macon and a

22:44

superb finish from, from Andrew Murnan. They've got

22:46

some good forwards going. Good to see Reno

22:48

Neal back on the field. Um,

22:51

yeah, but I think you're spot on.

22:53

I think a draw probably a fair

22:55

result, even though maybe Johnny

22:57

Gullen might feel that they left a

22:59

point behind them and raised

23:01

to hear that there was variables between Megane

23:03

and the Guinness cause you know, that's exactly

23:05

what we want. Yeah. So two

23:07

of them were great entertainment on the sideline mark, but

23:10

that would be my sense that maybe Johnny Gull of

23:12

the two teams might feel they had

23:14

a chance and potentially a point that was wide, wide

23:16

that I think maybe they thought was over as well that

23:18

was it one that got away. You

23:22

can argue that, but, uh, ultimately I'm, I had

23:24

the last chance of the game to, to, to,

23:26

to one out as well. So don't you go,

23:28

you know, you just think back to the most

23:30

recent things that will come away happy enough. Um,

23:33

I still think that we all will be the happy of the two

23:35

teams. Just in the sense of that, I just feel like they, uh,

23:38

were the better team throughout the game, I think they

23:40

controlled it a wee bit more. Um,

23:44

RMA or Johnny God, I suppose RMA just supposed

23:46

to come up to after they got the goal

23:49

was the best that they were. I think Johnny Gull got the

23:51

two point before halftime. You just eat

23:53

the conversation at halftime as you, as you would

23:55

say. Um, yeah,

23:58

but I don't know, Shannon box. If

24:00

these two teams can make the league final, they can make the

24:02

monster final. You just

24:04

don't know. I think

24:08

I read something this morning that the two best

24:10

defences in the whole of the National League combined

24:12

are Miles 1 and Dunning-Oll's No. 2. So

24:15

both managed to be happy with that. I think that

24:17

yesterday's game will be... Both

24:22

teams needed it, I suppose. I think Dunning-Oll's going to, I

24:24

must say, cruise and crew division. The top

24:26

game we had, the games were more so.

24:29

But that's the

24:32

games Armagh wanted to be playing. They didn't

24:34

like it and relegated last year. So to

24:36

get back to a proper, good, championship-based game

24:38

is what they want. I think

24:40

they have their first away game now this weekend, which

24:42

is tough on them. After

24:44

five weeks is their first away match. And they

24:47

had a neutral game against Kildare, if you

24:49

want to call it. So their first away

24:51

match. And they were going the long distance

24:53

to Romana. God love

24:55

you. Yeah, God love them, Armagh, Kavanagh's a

24:57

borerter. They don't have to go too far. Yeah. And

25:01

you know what? It's funny, Rory, because after the

25:03

draw, Mark is right. Maybe Dunning-Oll, Artha,

25:05

happier because Kavanagh's win coupled

25:07

with that draw. Like Kavanagh are right

25:09

in the hunt for promotion as well.

25:11

So it means that that final game,

25:13

I know... I think Kavanagh have made

25:15

Armagh and Romana to finish. They do

25:17

have to go to Armagh. But that

25:19

could potentially be a promotion decider between the two

25:21

of them as well. So Armagh are still going

25:23

to have to fight it out for their last

25:25

remaining games. Like Dunning-Oll's tight clash with Kavanagh. At

25:27

least they came out on the top. So they

25:29

probably are in a better place right now. Having

25:32

a right in the mix, Jackie, this isn't

25:34

a done deal by any stretch of the

25:36

match. I think Dunning-Oll will go up. I

25:38

think Dunning-Oll will make the

25:40

league final potentially win it. And I

25:42

think they will be absolutely one

25:44

of the teams that are promoted. But Kavanagh

25:46

will have a say yet on that second

25:48

spot. And They won't be

25:51

overly fussed about having to play Armagh.

25:53

I Think to go to RD yesterday

25:55

and come out there with a win,

25:57

I Heard there was a massive free...

25:59

for which you know is is always

26:02

interesting to hear every now and again.

26:04

Best as was looked up there quite

26:06

close to a gust. greedy Maybe there

26:08

was a bit a spillover, but I

26:10

think from their perspective stare. Their.

26:13

Bill in a Seats to Women

26:15

Galligan goes about his business in

26:17

a very quiet sauce and to keys

26:19

been a very astute appointment in

26:21

terms of transitioning from Mickey Graham into

26:23

a new era and am I

26:25

give them a really good chance of

26:28

higher of of upset the apple

26:30

cart because I'm are not impregnable

26:32

and. Cabinet have have to

26:34

forward to do damage. Paddy Lynch I'm standing

26:36

again Yesterday by all accounts didn't see the

26:38

game though obviously boss yeah I think it

26:41

does. This did did the top two teams

26:43

com a note even noted see like a

26:45

division one game yes a between are mad

26:47

Any gods I don't think it's by any

26:50

means done and dusted of who. Ends.

26:52

Up being promoted yeah that's what you than

26:54

mark on that like looked Donegal probably in

26:56

their hot seat right now. For the one

26:58

I'll put that battle this potentially go with

27:00

them is really heat not business. There's.

27:04

A lot of people that is laid yeah

27:06

from and every divisions and and running all

27:08

load load our stuckey people to monitored day

27:10

in a concert. Bodies on next week. And.

27:14

Me The start the fight for the

27:16

like Zoe but you know that. play

27:18

them and damn it finished And with

27:20

the game. Made. To

27:22

left to their so that when the out there

27:24

that would we do know exactly what's got what's

27:27

what's happening married or so and there's a lot

27:29

of public play tap and gonna be happy with

27:31

the.damage all yesterday and old they they were busted

27:33

the the open thoughts on even though as given

27:35

out about our mother that it into trouble the

27:37

clark and the very last game but it still

27:39

need that stuff not I'm a continental we're hoping

27:42

am I would already be in a league final

27:44

a Thursday by my eyes I think that so

27:46

as as as if I bobby Cavett that will

27:48

be to access but of capita about about what

27:50

a car club and for. A. Lot. You.

27:52

Know alas, that chef and as that one unit

27:54

you that you don't know how it'll add, soak,

27:56

address and three weeks. I know, what the hell,

28:02

Ah yeah, look. Interesting Two

28:04

weeks ahead will leave. It there are marked

28:06

thanks so much for your company! Looking forward to

28:08

or the football at the weekend with Celsius in.

28:17

All right, let's move on to hurling Then

28:19

and mail Mcmanus is along with us to

28:21

chat. Through some of the big results of

28:23

the weekend looks certain Division One A then

28:25

were the with a much needed to point

28:27

when for Cork against Waterford, a thrilling draw

28:29

between Wexford and Slayer which probably has implications

28:32

for lot of other teams around them and

28:34

then Kilkenny. It's coming back from six points

28:36

down at the break to be awfully by

28:38

seven. I think that Cork result in particular

28:40

Neil, probably stands out because. That. Rainforests

28:42

of all needed it but I think Waterford

28:44

might feel if the game had gone on

28:47

for another five minutes they could a snap

28:49

some of the wild finish wellness water from

28:51

protecting themselves, level bus and and truth it

28:53

was an experimental of water For teams there's

28:55

quite a few. Needham's the comeback into court

28:57

heard the majority of the players that are

29:00

gonna house or and showmanship Time for the

29:02

movie is the latest am to get a

29:04

first one of the county him because he

29:06

bobby new to this as this could be

29:08

the difference between them playing him and division

29:10

will next year or was. Effectively. Going

29:13

be division to even though I think

29:15

it's going be named division One base

29:17

but that the thorax for an all

29:19

of her for all sorts of reasons

29:21

need to ban Division One out of

29:23

the lease and they also really need

29:25

to figure out a few key positions

29:28

for themselves that they are struggling a

29:30

phone box have been for a period

29:32

of time. they need to develop another

29:34

bowl winning forward to games you know

29:36

with seems harder. they have the not

29:38

respects but do be less more questions

29:40

than answers really. After. Sunday. Because you

29:43

know they were in well and they looked

29:45

at the Gm soon up for driving for

29:47

home a then Waterford really take control the

29:49

game for the last ten or twelve minutes

29:52

and really out ghoul just getting into him

29:54

and could a store. I

29:57

think the difficulty for Pat Ryan Rory is I

29:59

heard him saying he's good back to twenty nine

30:01

different players and on one sense it's like okay

30:03

let's broaden it out that see how many those

30:05

tears that we can find that nearly talking about.

30:08

But on the other side I'm not sure that

30:10

there's the stability there of knowing what is going

30:12

to be his team com championship in a couple

30:14

a weeks time. I don't know how far or

30:16

away he is from even being close to a

30:19

championship team with his courtside. Very,

30:21

very true. And it's a progress. You know

30:23

it's It's one that. Has

30:25

passed. Pickled. In a

30:27

way in terms of trying to say

30:29

groves what would be his best Justine

30:32

Henin to championship. Three

30:34

to starting six forwards played and

30:36

yarn final of twenty thirteen. Now

30:38

and. That to me was

30:40

you know look at me But according

30:42

hundred he had the seems hard in

30:44

a d or nothing to cork In

30:47

terms of service that is given force

30:49

you were no. I understand there will

30:51

be an element of trying to mix

30:53

match and trying to ease the younger

30:55

lads in. A couple of positives that

30:57

he brain has played. Reasonably

30:59

well all the way through. We'd probably

31:01

needs to live in the ball ali

31:03

because of see above. Would.

31:06

Have been primed his primary games most that

31:08

way up. And. Eleven

31:10

changes including Beyond Saunders and and Gold who

31:12

it's all actually played quite well to and.

31:14

Better. Competition there for patch a cause

31:17

or dose. I think the near makes

31:19

it absolutely spot on point like the

31:21

center of course defense is something that

31:23

could do with strengthening. Do

31:27

we need to find a fullback? Well we

31:29

did find one, but he was playing rugby

31:31

on Friday. Nice invidious that that that's great

31:33

if months grab a heart rate. And there

31:36

he was. Painful but there's was. But.

31:38

Looked at that ship has sailed I

31:40

think from cox point of view. Day.

31:43

Haven't really stitch together. Never going to

31:45

stitch together a seventy minute performance because

31:47

do a modern intercounty harden and and

31:49

football goes. It's going to be ebbs

31:51

and flows and it's gonna be Am.

31:54

You're gonna have periods of dominance and

31:56

you're gonna have times when you're on

31:58

top of sticky from a car perspective.

32:00

These when they lose momentum and when

32:02

they lose.ability to. When.

32:04

They lose. Did you notice?

32:07

Switch off? They go for the ten

32:09

fifteen minutes naps. The The.

32:11

Damage is restricted in some way to.

32:14

The. Bare Minimum. As much as they possibly

32:16

campbell. What ends up happening is the floodgates

32:18

tend to open again and we saw like

32:20

a ten point lead whittled down to two

32:22

You know they could have easily. Came

32:24

out of that game yesterday. Would another defeat

32:27

him? That would have been an absolute second

32:29

are given in order to. As

32:31

knee have mentioned to how significant the Division

32:33

One campaign will be next year, but I

32:35

was not really worried about that. Know what

32:37

did he find? I don't

32:39

know. I mean of be surprised to

32:42

see Sean. As. Shown to me

32:44

now playing up see wasn't twenty six side

32:46

of I presume he was injured. I think

32:48

it was great to see Mack warm and

32:50

it's Jack O'connell Played really well has has

32:52

a really hard the whole pie as well

32:54

as really bothered to team is huge way

32:56

last year. Come. Under the

32:59

mat yesterday got brilliant goals to work

33:01

with aspects to their display bottom. again

33:03

it's a fits and starts type of

33:05

displayed that I think it's day need

33:08

to develop a little more consistency in

33:10

their game. A cassette absolutely need.com last

33:12

attempt at yeah well of the got

33:14

two games to finish against awfully and

33:17

website anything particularly given a wetsuit result

33:19

that the weekend neil you look now

33:21

that final game to in court and

33:23

Wexford could be nothing because Wexford are

33:26

finding a way to hang in these

33:28

games. and get a result were other teams are not

33:30

and I think eat roster to be delighted with the

33:32

tune that he's getting from his and. I.

33:35

Will absolutely be a very

33:38

happy man. And the early

33:40

stage this league matches three

33:42

draws on the base but

33:45

I think back east is.

33:48

Where. were seen from keith along the sideline

33:50

what we think from as a player he's

33:52

gonna real honest performance i have the same

33:54

is get a very hard work and it's

33:56

performance and if he if he never three

33:58

and the tyler Mark them in enough occasions

34:01

to know that Keith Rossiter

34:03

will drive and instill a

34:05

belief and an integrity

34:07

and honesty to the way that Wexford will

34:09

perform, that will hang in and will give

34:11

them a chance to win a lot of

34:13

games. But he's without some big, big players

34:16

too. Lee Chin played 20-25

34:18

minutes yesterday, then he's waiting on

34:20

Dale Keefe, he's waiting on Namo

34:22

McGovern, he's waiting on Matt O'Hannan

34:24

here to come back as well.

34:26

But there's huge, huge players for

34:28

Wexford. So if he can manage to get

34:31

a win against Cork, even

34:33

another draw might actually do it. Then,

34:36

you know, if he brings Wexford into the

34:38

top flight next year, it will

34:40

be unbelievable success for Keith Rossiter in

34:43

his first year. And the

34:45

way that he has

34:47

been playing, now they're playing not unlike we did under

34:49

Davey, they're sitting back and trying to kind of counter-attack

34:51

and we're seeing lots from Kaho

34:54

Dunbar and, you know, obviously they

34:57

had chances to win that game yesterday. A lot of

34:59

people were questioning why Mark Fanning didn't come out of

35:01

the goal to take that last free. That's

35:04

an area of worry for them because they

35:06

do have to nail that down when Lee

35:08

Chin is not available because Lee has developed

35:10

into a pretty reliable free-taker

35:12

after lots of switching in that front

35:14

in the past three or four years.

35:17

Yeah. Listen, and I think changing

35:20

up those things, trying to find something

35:23

like that is exactly what he

35:25

needs to find worry because like suddenly having

35:27

a free-taker who can keep you hanging in

35:29

in these games, if they had

35:31

got a victory against Claire, I don't think anybody

35:33

would have foreseen that even last week, given the

35:35

way Claire have been bombing out of this league.

35:38

They have been so far out in front of

35:40

everybody else that I actually think a draw for

35:42

them, albeit it's three draws on a bounce, it's

35:44

a huge result for Wexford. And the implication that

35:46

it has around the table is massive because I

35:48

think it brings everybody right back into the mix.

35:51

And Jackie, you have to bear in mind the

35:53

corresponding fixture last year probably

35:55

preempted the

35:57

exit and the escape clause for Dairon.

36:00

Egan given the posity in

36:02

their display, they were annihilated on their own

36:04

patch by Claire. I don't know, they shipped

36:06

five or six goals. Yeah, they got a

36:08

ferocious beating. So for them to turn that

36:10

around in the space of 12 months with,

36:12

as Nia mentioned, with a lot of inexperienced

36:14

players, but still some with loads of, loads

36:16

of experienced players to come back. And it's

36:18

the nature of these, the nature

36:21

of these draws that they're digging out, like

36:23

they're really digging out, like to go to

36:25

Nolan Park and potentially a

36:27

game as well that they could have won,

36:29

they could have won, could have lost, but

36:31

it got a draw. Next, next up, Offaly

36:33

down to 13 players and still

36:35

managed to equal. Now that probably rank

36:37

a bit offly, but in fairness, Wexford

36:40

managed to get, they got a result, haven't

36:43

been under the cash. And

36:45

then yesterday against the Claire side,

36:48

albeit, you know, who probably

36:50

feel they have a lot of their hard

36:52

work done and will have their eyes in

36:54

focus switched to the monster championship. But Claire,

36:57

I think are the number two team in

36:59

the country. And you know,

37:02

I think there's a

37:04

togetherness, there's a unity of purpose.

37:06

He's obviously, he's got a great

37:08

sense of the

37:10

spirit about them. I think they will

37:13

absolutely give it socks in the Leinster

37:15

championship. It should make for

37:17

very interesting Leinster championship in many ways. I

37:20

don't think it was a kind of a

37:22

sense. Galway Kilkenny were way out in front.

37:24

I don't necessarily agree. I think that could

37:26

be very, very competitive championship now in its

37:29

own right. And if

37:31

he gets those players back,

37:33

increases competition, yeah, they'll have Cork.

37:36

They'll give Cork plenty of it, you

37:38

know, and it'll be, that'll be a

37:40

very, very competitive game. Interesting to see.

37:43

We think of Wexford,

37:45

you immediately think of Rory O'Connor, you think of

37:47

Lee Chin, you think of

37:50

Connor McDonald, Connor McDonald as well. And like

37:52

those guys, you know, like Lee, Lee on

37:54

for 20 minutes yesterday, he has so much

37:56

to come back and defence and attack. And

37:59

I think I think the

38:01

other positive is they

38:05

have a very,

38:07

very well respected man

38:10

leading them now. Somebody who can go to them

38:12

and say, I put my body in the line

38:14

for Wexford, I expect you to do the same.

38:17

I think he's going to develop a

38:19

lot of younger players because of

38:21

his positions under 20 managers previously.

38:23

And look, I'd be really, really

38:26

excited if I was at Wexford found out he's looking

38:28

into next year, regardless if they get into the top

38:30

division for next year or not. Yeah, but

38:33

I think they're right in the mix now. That

38:35

is for sure. Because even around that Leinster Championship,

38:38

it's hard to know what Kilkenny as well,

38:40

Neil. I think, you know, they're trailing awfully at

38:42

halftime. You don't really know what they're going to

38:44

get. Similar situation when they were down in Cork,

38:46

they're out of a game. Same with the Wexford

38:48

game. But I think maybe Derek

38:50

Ling might feel to have them bubbling

38:52

away in the background, putting another

38:54

win on the board. You know, they're doing their

38:56

job nice and quietly. There's not too many people

38:58

talking about them. That might suit him down to

39:01

the ground. Well, absolutely well,

39:03

because he's getting a lot of game

39:06

time into labs who haven't

39:08

seen much of before. I know we've seen Billy

39:11

Drennan last year, but he didn't play any championship

39:13

herding. Then you've also got

39:15

to like Shane Murphy getting a bit of

39:17

game time this year. But there's no on

39:19

Murphy. There's no Hugh Lawler. There's no Patty

39:22

Degan. There's no TJ or Evgen. There's probably

39:24

four All-Stars. And there's not a

39:26

word about it. So they'll be under just coming in

39:28

through the last few games of the league. And

39:31

Kilkenny are the masters of it, really. They

39:33

build nice and quietly through the league. And

39:35

they tend to kind of peek in around

39:37

the Leinster final time and push on from

39:39

the last two games after that. So I

39:42

think Kilkenny, in my opinion, they're the number two

39:45

team in the country. I think they're just slightly

39:47

above Claire and we know how to beat Claire.

39:49

Obviously, they have gone on those last two learning

39:51

semifinals, but Kilkenny has such

39:53

a depth of talent. TJ

39:56

is still so important for them, but

39:58

Adrian Mullen, you know, again, six

40:00

points in play yesterday. He looks like the guy

40:02

who's going to take over from TJ, at

40:05

that centre forward position. And then

40:07

in own Cody, they have, in my

40:09

opinion, probably the next best finisher in

40:11

the game outside of Orange Golan. So

40:13

look, I think Cochenny

40:15

are the best-placed team to

40:17

give Limerick their fill of it, but they

40:20

won't be getting overly excited. And the lady will

40:22

have been saying, okay, we want to get six

40:24

or seven points on the board here and be

40:27

in the top flight for next year. And if we

40:29

finish up on a league final,

40:31

then great. Suddenly that next game

40:34

against Clare, it looks like it's a big game for

40:36

them too. Sorry Rory, go on. Yeah, after he was

40:38

six points up at half time now, I would imagine

40:40

there was a win given the fact that it was

40:42

quite blustery yesterday. And Cochenny came out in the second

40:45

half and scored one-tenth to a point between minutes. And

40:48

classic Cochenny, no major panic,

40:51

or kerf ruffle just went about their business

40:54

in a good way. But yeah, I absolutely

40:56

accept Neil's point. I think the thing with

40:58

Cochenny, like Owen Cody, I love

41:00

Owen Cody. Owen Cody's like something from

41:03

the US Marine Corps, which

41:05

is like the tone and just the

41:07

body shape and everything about him. I

41:09

think they can, I suppose, bolster

41:12

that forward line with a couple of

41:14

more ball winners in the mold of

41:17

the TJs, who obviously look as pushing

41:19

on out of this stage. I think

41:21

Cochenny will be right in the mix

41:23

for all Ireland honours again. And who

41:25

knows, we could have a three-peat of

41:28

an all-Ireland final with Cochenny-Limerick once more.

41:30

Yeah, it does very much look

41:32

on the basis of, I know we've been saying

41:34

this all along though Neil, division 1A versus division 1B,

41:36

but you look at even the hiding that Dublin

41:38

took at the weekend. I think, what are they on?

41:40

Their points different from like minus 28. Now

41:43

it is very much looking like that fourth place

41:45

team is more than likely going to come from

41:47

division 1A now, potentially. I mean, when you're

41:49

looking at some of the beatings, the disparity between

41:51

1A and 1B,

41:55

there's just something not quite right with the way

41:57

that this league format is taking shape, albeit it is.

42:00

has been thrilling and exciting but it all seems to

42:02

be happening in one side of the division. It

42:05

does and you know you've had

42:07

a comfortable run for Limerick

42:10

Gullway and Tipperary

42:12

through to the

42:14

last you know the

42:16

last three spots. That fourth spot

42:18

is more than likely going to

42:20

be going to be doubling coming

42:22

from from 1b but look on

42:24

foreign it doesn't matter if the

42:26

fourth side is Wexford, is

42:28

Waterford, is Cork, they're going

42:30

to beat Dublin as a truth and they're going to secure

42:33

that fourth spot and doesn't

42:35

look to have regressed in my

42:37

opinion. Antrim only have five

42:40

of the starters from last year's championship team

42:42

available to him at the minute and Antrim

42:44

really should have beat Dublin two weeks ago.

42:46

You know a

42:49

really unfortunate error near

42:51

the end

42:53

of that game. Seen a goal drop in really

42:55

and Dublin stole it and Antrim would have been

42:59

full value for their victory but I mean

43:01

I think Mihael,

43:04

as long as you might be thinking you know have

43:06

I brought this team as far as they're going to

43:08

come here because look they

43:10

have Danny Fick's back, they have Chris

43:13

Cromney back and it didn't make a

43:15

huge difference. Actually I thought

43:17

Danny Sutcliffe was probably their best performer against

43:20

Lemrick and unfortunately

43:23

for Dublin he is their

43:25

elder statesman and he was covering more ground

43:27

than anybody else but then you know more

43:29

of a shift than a lot of the

43:31

other players. Dublin haven't got too many more

43:34

to add to that group at the minute

43:36

and I don't think Dublin are developing. I

43:38

actually think they're moving in their own direction

43:40

and there is there's a difference

43:43

between that top eight teams eight nine teams

43:45

and the five or six who are coming

43:47

behind which means that the the

43:49

one or two teams who don't get into that

43:51

top seven are going to feel a little bit cut

43:54

adrift but you

43:56

know I think the league set up in the minute we're

43:58

seeing these headings at the minute and they're not doing

44:01

much good for anybody. So I think we have to

44:03

try something and I think this is as good a

44:05

format as any. Yeah and look

44:07

to be fair I actually think Rory that

44:09

I'm not saying that this isn't the

44:11

right format in terms of next year because I

44:13

think the caliber of league you're going to get

44:15

next year is going to be brilliant. It's just

44:17

a difficulty that this is what we have to

44:19

go through to get to that because I was

44:21

in Croke Park on Saturday night and it was

44:23

like men against boys even physically looking at Limerick

44:25

versus Dublin they were like two teams on completely

44:27

different trajectories as Neil said which is just look

44:30

it's an anomaly in in terms of what we're going to

44:32

get next season but we're just having to suffer through it

44:34

right now and for one reason. Everybody

44:37

looks like that when they stand next to

44:39

Limerick. Have you ever seen oh like the

44:41

land of the

44:45

giants but it's I think

44:47

look Neil mentioned there were

44:49

a couple of positive aspects

44:51

to Dublin insofar as personnel

44:53

positivity. I see Chris Comey back and

44:55

Danny Sutcliffe back in the starting 15 and

44:58

they will maybe get a

45:00

bit of game time in they should improve.

45:02

I think the most disappointing aspects and I

45:04

think Shane Dowling pointed out as much last

45:06

night was there was an exhibition feel to

45:08

the game. It felt like exhibition hurling and

45:11

you stand back and admire Limerick. They'll

45:13

rack up 3-30 in the blink of

45:16

an eye. You just can't do that.

45:18

You have to engage them and no

45:21

look Dublin I

45:23

don't think can get unduly don't

45:25

be about taking that type of

45:27

a pacing because there's no

45:30

time anyway to be feeling sorry for yourself you're

45:32

just going to have to dust yourself down and

45:34

get on with it but at the same time

45:36

the quality of opposition that they're going to face

45:38

when they move into the Leinster Championship isn't going

45:40

to be anywhere near anything that they faced on

45:42

Saturday night and I think that's the positives that

45:44

they have to take to try and potentially

45:46

make a Leinster final. It'll be quite a

45:49

bit of time to prep for that. They

45:56

have proved in the past that they're able to mix it

45:58

with Galway, they're able to mix it with Kenny to

46:00

a degree known fairness there through a while since they've

46:02

beaten the Kenny League or championship and

46:04

they have they've had the bit of the

46:06

Indian sign over Wexford that's

46:08

really where their season is going to be judged

46:11

trying to put a bit more depth and trying to

46:13

bring through some new talent Donald Burke obviously back in

46:16

the field was another positive obviously given the seriousness

46:18

of his injury and he will be better next

46:20

time round but everything is

46:22

going to have to go up a notch in

46:25

terms of physical approach intensity everything

46:27

if they're going to be competitive and a

46:30

regressive Dublin is definitely

46:32

not what the game of hurling needs. 100%

46:36

couldn't agree more. Laurie's hitting me on the head

46:38

there I think the teams

46:40

that were most impressed the

46:43

whole point of view over the last decade

46:45

were those managed by Anthony Daly and they

46:47

were built on physicality they were getting stuck

46:51

and the teams they weren't letting teams breathe

46:54

they were suffocating for Kenny every time they

46:56

came up against them and Megan games almost

46:58

warlike and that's not what we've seen in

47:00

Saturday. Yeah they're a bit away

47:02

from that look lads we're gonna have to leave it

47:05

there for now the All Ireland champions did put on

47:07

quite the exhibition in Croke Park perhaps

47:09

they're headed for a league final who knows hurling

47:11

is gonna tell us over the next couple of

47:13

weeks two more rounds of it to go and

47:15

we look forward to that Neil thanks to million

47:17

for being with us and everybody enjoy your week