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The world is my expense, the
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cost of my desire. Jesus
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blessed me with his future, and
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I protect it with fire.
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So raise your fists and
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march around, just don't
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take what you need. I'll tell and bury
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those committed, and smother the rest in greed.
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Crawl with me and tomorrow I'll drag
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you to your grave. I'm deep inside
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your children, and I'll swear you in
0:52
my name. Hey,
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hey, well sit down with
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the fire. Hey,
1:05
hey, sit down with the fire.
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The world is my expense. Yes,
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my friends, that is Rage Against
1:12
the Machine. And
1:15
I'm Michael Moore. If you're listening
1:17
to Rumble with Michael Moore, this is my podcast.
1:20
And we're going to take
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a few moments tonight as
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Rage was just inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall
1:27
of Fame a little over a month ago. And
1:30
the acceptance speech given by
1:32
Rage's guitarist, Tom Morello, was
1:36
one of the greatest things I've ever heard given
1:38
in front of a microphone or from a stage. And
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I want to share it with you. So
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we'll get to that in just a couple
1:45
of minutes. In the meantime,
1:47
I just want to let you know that I've
1:50
been working on something here, and
1:53
hopefully I'll have it ready in the
1:55
next week or two. It's
1:57
about what we've all been figuring
1:59
out. sends
4:00
billions of dollars to Israel every year.
4:04
The idea of that, I think, in the early
4:06
years was to try and
4:09
support and be there for the people
4:11
that had faced their own slaughter, mass
4:13
executions of the Holocaust back
4:15
in the 1930s and 40s. And
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when the war was over, a desire amongst good
4:21
people in the world to help
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the survivors of that madness.
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Somewhere, we, everyone,
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others, lost our way once
4:35
again. And
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now, it's just
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this, what we're watching every night
4:44
on the television. So,
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I hope
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you will look forward to this. It should be
4:52
coming together here, like I said, in the next week
4:54
or so, here on this podcast
4:56
and also on my substack. If
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you're not signed up for my substack, it's free. Just
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go to michaelmore.com. You can
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sign up for it. No paywall. It's
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all free. So, do that if
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you can. But I'll be letting you know
5:11
about what's coming here in the next week or so.
5:14
And we'll see, maybe, if I have a good
5:17
idea or two that
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can bring this slaughter to an end to
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stand up for the people who have
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not that many people standing up for them these days.
5:29
So, I hope you join with me in
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doing that. What
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we're going to do today on the
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podcast is to play the
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acceptance speech from
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lead guitarist Tom Morello of
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Rage Against the Machine as Rage was
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inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
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a little over a month ago. I
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really want you to listen to this. It
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blew me away. As
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I watched him there on the stage say
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the things that don't usually get said, speak
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directly to the people, the
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hard-working people, the barely working people,
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the working poor of
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this country, of
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the world. Very
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few people take their side
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and this band has
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done that for so many years. They
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have had some reunion concerts. You
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know, I think we all hope that they will
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get back together again someday. I
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became very good friends with them. I admired
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them greatly. They were inspiring to
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me. I ended
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up doing two or three music
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videos for them. Sleep Now in the
6:47
Fire and Testify and
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they were great to work
6:52
with. You can Google
6:54
them or get them on YouTube and
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watch them if you'd like. But man,
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brave, bold, brash.
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You know, take no
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prisoners attitude to stand up
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and fight corporate America, to stand
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up and fight the military industrial
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complex, to
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fight racism and hatred, all
7:19
forms of bigotry. They
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just put it right out there. And
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you know, those of us who grew up in the 60s
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and 70s, we had our
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protest music as it was called back then. But
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there hasn't really been a lot of that in
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subsequent generations. There's been some of it and
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some of it has been outstanding.
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But Rage Against the Machine, wow,
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four albums. That's it.
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Four studio albums. Rage
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Against the Machine, their first one. Evil
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Empire, the Battle of Los
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Angeles and
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Renegades. Man.
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the unbelievable
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work on just those albums and then
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their great tours, their live
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tours, the ones I
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attended were just mind-blowing.
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One time they asked me to come up, I was in
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Detroit to introduce them on the stage
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before they came out. Oh
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man, I mean
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to walk out on a stage and there's like at least
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25-30,000 people there
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and all the ones on the floor in a
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giant mosh pit and all kinds of stuff
8:34
being thrown at the stage. It
8:39
was something I have never seen and have
8:42
not seen since and
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I was asked to
8:46
speak at the counter-inaugural, the
8:48
protest against Trump's election, the
8:51
day after his inauguration in January
8:55
of 2017 where
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everybody wore the pink hats and
9:00
I couldn't, you know, I'm standing on that stage down
9:03
by the Capitol looking up to the Washington
9:05
Monument. I can't even see where the crowd
9:07
ends, meaning
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they're had, I know the earth is round
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so at some point it does
9:14
start to curve, well at every point it curves
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right, it's a ball.
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I really felt like, can
9:22
I not see the horizon anymore because there's just
9:24
so many, you know, there are a million plus
9:26
people at that. So
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I have had the privilege of seeing
9:33
what that looks like but
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30,000 people at a Rage
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Against the
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Machine concert is its own
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thing and I was lucky
9:44
to be able to be part of that, lucky
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to be able to make these music videos for them.
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They're good souls, they're still with us, they're
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still making their own music and
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I can't wait to hear more of it. So
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to all of you who are part of this band, Zach
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De La Roque, the
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incredible vocalist and lyricist, Brad
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Wilk, the drummer, Tim
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Coneford, the bass player, and
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Tom Morello, the guitarist. I
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hope you guys all know what an inspiration you've been
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to so many people and
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we don't want your voices to ever
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go silent so please a
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humble plea from all of us to
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keep that going to
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keep testifying. So
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before we get to Tom Morello's acceptance
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speech at the Rock and Roll Hall
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of Fame I'd like
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All right, I think it's
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time we turn this over
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to Mr. Tom Morello, lead
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guitar player and overall great
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guy, guru of
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the band. And again,
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this was just an amazing thing at
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the Barclays Center just a little over
12:44
a month ago when Rage Against the
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Machine was inducted into the Rock and
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Roll Hall of Fame. Tom
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Morello was there to accept the honor
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and to share it with all his fans.
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So without any further ado, let's
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turn this over to Tom Morello
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from Rage Against the Machine. My
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name is Tom
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Morello, and I'm one quarter of Rage Against
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the Machine. I am deeply grateful
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for the musical chemistry I've
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had the good fortune to share with Brad Wilk, Tim
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Comerford, and Zach Daler-Rocha. Like most bands,
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we have different perspectives on a lot
13:26
of things, including about being inducted into
13:28
the Rock Hall. My
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perspective is that tonight is a great
13:33
opportunity to celebrate the music and the
13:35
mission of the band to celebrate with
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the fifth member of the band, and
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that is Rage Against the Machine's incredible
13:42
fans. You're
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the reason we are here, and the best
13:48
way to celebrate this music is for
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you to carry on that mission and
13:52
that message. The lesson I've learned from
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Rage fans is that
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music can change the world. Daily, I
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hear from fans who have been affected by- music and
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in turn have affected the world in
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significant ways. Organizers, optimists,
14:04
public defenders, teachers, the presidents
14:06
of Chile and Finland have
14:08
all spent time in our
14:10
mosh pits. When
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protest music is done right, you're gonna
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hear a new world emerging in the
14:18
songs, skewering the oppressors of the day
14:21
and hinting that there might be more
14:23
to life than what was handed to
14:25
us. Can music change the world? The
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whole fucking aim is to change the
14:29
world or at a bare minimum
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to stir up a shitload of trouble.
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When rage started, we were first deep in the
14:38
San Fernando Valley. This guy passed by the place
14:41
regularly and one day asked, what are you guys
14:43
doing in there? We said, we're a man. He
14:45
asked to cheer us and we said sure. He
14:47
came in and sat down. He was the first
14:49
guy to ever hear the music of rage against
14:52
the machine. We played them a couple of times. After
14:54
we finished, we asked him what he thought. He
14:56
paused, stood up and said, your
14:59
music makes me want to fight. Throughout
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history, the spark of rebellion has
15:06
come from unexpected borders. Barakers,
15:08
economists, carpenters, but it's not
15:10
what Oregon day says. There
15:12
is no revolution without strong.
15:15
So who is to say what musicians
15:17
might or might not be able to
15:19
achieve with revolutionary intent from the thousandth
15:21
promise of rich to small. Personally,
15:24
I'd like to tell my wife and my
15:26
kids who remind me daily that the world
15:28
is worth paying. And
15:32
thanks to all the musicians and
15:35
change makers who helped shape the
15:37
players selected vision, they've all been
15:39
fortunate to have so many talented coworkers
15:41
and conspirators who have believed in the
15:43
band. When Michael Goldstone, the guy inside
15:45
us, and it says that the first
15:48
radio single being an edited
15:50
song featuring 17 customers
15:53
to the greatest guitar tech of
15:55
all time. Slim Richardson. Thank you
15:57
and thanks and deep appreciation to
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the. of others, from those
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who put up pliers to those who
16:03
have moved mountains to amplify the message
16:05
and the music. What I
16:07
hear in the music is this, that the world
16:09
is not going to change itself, but
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throughout history those who have changed
16:14
the world in progressive, radical, or
16:16
even revolutionary ways do not have
16:18
any more money, power, courage, intelligence,
16:21
or creativity than anyone watching tonight.
16:23
The world is changed by average, everyday, ordinary
16:26
people who have had enough and are willing
16:28
to stand up for a country and a
16:30
planet that is more humane, peaceful, and just.
16:32
And that, and that, and I'm here to celebrate tonight. Stand
16:41
up and ask the world to
16:44
do awesome things. We can all
16:46
bring in and both self. Two,
16:48
aim for the world you really want
16:50
without compromise or apology. And three, don't
16:53
wait for us. Rage is not
16:55
here, but you are. The child
16:57
we set out to do is not over. Now
16:59
you're the ones that must testify. If
17:02
you've got a boss, join a union. If you're
17:04
a student, start an underground paper. If
17:06
you're an anarchist, throw a brick. If
17:08
you're a soldier or a cop, follow
17:10
your conscience, not your orders. If you're
17:12
bummed out you didn't get the sea
17:14
rage against the machine, then throw your
17:17
own ban and let's hear what you have
17:19
to say. If
17:24
you are a human being, stand up
17:26
for your planet before it's too late.
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So tomorrow, so tomorrow, close
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up some rooms and head out and control
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justice. The other rules is all we have.
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It's time to change the rules. It
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is time to do some of
17:40
the shit we're talking. In
17:43
favor, in favor, in favor,
17:46
in favor of my mom,
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Mary Morello, a retired public
17:50
history teacher,
17:52
a proud Rage Against the Machine fan,
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and a lifelong radical who turned 100
17:57
years old a couple of weeks ago. She's
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watching at home tonight, but she asked
18:05
me to tell you this. History,
18:08
like music, is not something
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that happens. It's
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something you make. Thank you very much. Wow.
18:24
Powerful. Man, oh man. Was
18:27
that just amazing? Share that with
18:29
your friends, people you work with, people you go to
18:31
school with. That just
18:33
was one of the best speeches I've ever
18:35
heard. It was just amazing.
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And as I said,
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Tom's been a friend for a long time, a
18:43
good soul, a great
18:45
leader, and an overall
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shit-kicker and
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fighter for the good. I,
18:52
we, all of us, thank you
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Tom and Brad and
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Tim and Zach for
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giving us that great decade of
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Rage Against the Machine, for
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what you've gone on to do since
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then in your various endeavors with
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Audioslave, with Tom and the Night
19:11
Watchmen, and Zach with
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your solo work, your poetry, your activism.
19:17
Everything all of you have done, what
19:19
you've stood and fought for, it's been inspiring.
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And I know, like Tom
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said here in his speech, his main
19:25
hope is that one or two
19:28
or 20 of you listening
19:30
to this right now decide that it's
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your time. It's your time to
19:35
have your voice heard, to not
19:38
be afraid. I
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can't tell you how much I endorse
19:44
this message. And
19:47
my sincere hope that
19:49
you don't just sit back
19:51
and say, oh well, I mean I
19:53
would never get to have my
19:55
music or my voice or my movie or whatever,
19:57
heard or seen. I'm
20:00
just me. I'm just sitting here in Willmett,
20:03
Illinois. No.
20:07
No. I'm going to tell you that's
20:09
the big lie. They want you to believe that you
20:11
have no real power. That
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you have no ability or
20:16
means by which to reach
20:18
thousands or millions of other people.
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You do. You hold it right now in
20:23
your hands. And
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I want to personally encourage you to
20:28
make that voice heard. Do
20:32
it. All
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right. I hear the band playing,
20:38
so I guess that's my cue. Thank
20:41
you everybody for listening to the show. Thank
20:43
you to my executive producer and editor, Angela
20:45
Vargos. To all the people who've helped
20:47
me on this podcast and to all of you who listen to
20:49
it. Much, much
20:52
appreciation. Let's go out now
20:56
once again with rage against the machine. Take
20:59
care everyone. A
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band
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called
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the
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machine
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raises on. Those raised
21:42
up machines. That
21:44
band is an understanding of
21:46
the machine.
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