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The people. Want
0:05
peace? There.
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Is. Thoroughly and
0:11
utterly clear. Page.
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Seen enough, Since
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October seventh when Hamas
0:20
militants invaded. Israel.
0:24
From Gaza. And
0:28
murdered. Over a thousand
0:30
people. It
0:33
was. A. Terrible day.
0:36
And. Of
0:38
course. There. Was. No
0:41
one there to help the people who live
0:43
in the commits as Heerema and the gas
0:45
importer. I
0:49
have people I know, friends
0:51
who live in a cupboard
0:53
sir to in Israel. Especially
0:56
the ones down there. By.
0:58
Gaza have to understand the
1:01
people live there generally the
1:03
past majority of them are
1:05
they believe in peace. They
1:08
believe in human rights. They
1:11
hate getting yahoo.
1:15
They involve form they don't wanna bowl from.
1:17
They want amount of their Just like over
1:19
eighty percent of Israel wants him out of
1:21
there. And
1:23
yet because he's a butcher? He's
1:26
not going anywhere. I. An
1:30
because we hand him. All
1:33
the tools that a butcher needs. To.
1:35
Slaughter. What? Will
1:37
probably by the morning
1:39
be now over thirty
1:41
thousand people palestinians. Civilians.
1:46
Two. Thirds of them. Children.
1:49
Women: A
1:52
lot more who are older, elderly
1:54
people. And
1:58
the. idea the
2:02
N'Yahu cabinet, the war cabinet,
2:05
they don't give a rat's ass who
2:07
dies just as
2:09
long as they're Palestinians. Because
2:12
you know they're guilty. Because
2:16
a few hundred of their
2:18
people, Palestinians, got
2:22
on scooters and hang gliders,
2:25
broke out of their outdoor prison, and
2:30
in a mad race to kill
2:32
the people they see as their
2:35
captors, their jailers, the people
2:37
that have kept them in this open-air prison for
2:39
14, 15, 16 years. And
2:47
it just continues every
2:49
single day. And
2:52
we fund it. We Americans
2:54
fund this. And Joe
2:56
Biden, President
2:58
Biden, you
3:00
are the topic of discussion today
3:02
again on my podcast, Rumble
3:05
with Michael Moore. And
3:08
I don't know if I mentioned this at the beginning. I
3:11
am Michael Moore. And
3:15
I voted for you, Mr. Biden. I'm
3:19
probably, as I've mentioned before, one of
3:22
the few people listening to this podcast
3:24
right now that has been to Gaza
3:26
in person, the
3:29
Palestine, the West Bank, had
3:33
Israeli soldiers firing weapons at
3:35
me and the other journalists
3:37
who were there to see
3:40
what was going on and
3:42
report what was going on.
3:44
This first trip was back
3:46
39 years ago. 39 years
3:50
ago I was there and I saw the
3:52
truth. I couldn't believe it. I
3:58
guess I... I didn't
4:00
believe it because I was seeing it with my own
4:02
two eyes. And once
4:05
you've seen this, you can't unsee it. Every
4:10
day around the world, I
4:12
would say probably close to every hour of every day
4:15
around the world, there is some kind of protest going
4:17
on calling for an
4:19
end to this war. It's not
4:21
really a war. It's an assault
4:24
against an imprisoned people who
4:26
have to live under apartheid rules.
4:29
They don't get to have a say in
4:32
what's going on. They
4:34
don't vote. They don't have human rights the
4:37
way Israeli citizens have them. And
4:40
let me tell you, there are
4:42
thousands upon thousands of these Israeli
4:44
citizens who are sickened by this
4:48
and who oppose the apartheid
4:50
regime of Benjamin Netanyahu and
4:55
who have taken to the streets every day
4:57
in Israel and
5:01
who know that Mr. Netanyahu
5:03
has absolutely little
5:05
interest in
5:07
getting those hostages back. The
5:10
longer the hostages are
5:12
being held, the longer he can
5:14
keep the carpet bombing,
5:16
the massacre going on. And
5:22
he can claim some justification for it. I
5:26
mean, I don't
5:28
really have any
5:30
contact with people in
5:33
Hamas, but I would say if somehow
5:37
you're listening to this, don't
5:43
hurt anybody. Don't kill
5:46
anybody. The
5:48
hostages are
5:50
civilians too. And I
5:52
can understand you're probably pretty upset
5:54
right now. You're probably
5:56
also pretty confused As
5:59
to why would the Prime Minister of
6:01
Israel bomb. All.
6:03
These neighborhoods where the hostages
6:05
are being kept. Why would
6:08
he risk their lives. I
6:12
mean, I think I read somewhere
6:15
over twenty twenty, maybe twenty to
6:17
thirty of the hostages have already
6:19
died as a result of the
6:21
massacre in. That state and
6:23
place of ask on the part
6:25
of the Israeli Defense forces. Every
6:29
day. There's. A protest. Every
6:33
there's and I mean people say
6:35
me video a semi se I
6:37
mean from all over the world.
6:39
This one woman in Tokyo her
6:41
name is Nori. And
6:44
everyday she conducts a one
6:46
woman protest on a street
6:48
corner was a difference. I
6:50
need stay. In Tokyo.
6:54
Just standing there call me out to
6:57
people. To
6:59
please stop the madness. Man.
7:08
It's amazing. I know some people
7:11
in this country don't understand why.
7:13
Why has the whole world risen
7:16
up. To
7:18
oppose this to pose what Netanyahu's
7:20
doing. It's
7:24
going on and tell you,
7:26
many times I've run across
7:28
small protests, large protests wherever
7:30
I happened to be. And.
7:34
Sunday night. On.
7:36
The Beach in Santa Monica,
7:38
California. The annual Independent Film
7:41
Spirit Awards, The. Spirit Awards
7:43
were taken place to start a war
7:45
teacher that come out and films. And.
7:50
There was. One. Person.
7:55
With. A tape on a
7:57
loop with is a loudspeaker
7:59
Standing legally. On the
8:01
other side of where the
8:03
awards or dame was outdoors
8:05
behind the police barricades, a
8:07
public space. And.
8:09
He turned on this loudspeaker. And
8:13
for nearly two hours. If.
8:15
You're watching this on the on
8:17
the streaming channels it was on.
8:21
It. When for almost two hours. And
8:24
you can hear it. Everybody in the
8:26
the big tent where the awards were
8:28
taken place on the beach could hear
8:30
it. People watching on Tv could hear
8:33
it. All the presenters, the people winning
8:35
awards. And.
8:38
One award winner. A
8:41
man who made a film. Called
8:43
Fremont was it being given the john
8:45
cast of any sort. Of
8:48
it is a great. One
8:50
of that really godfathers. It's of the
8:53
modern day independent film starting back in
8:55
the sixties. And
8:58
ah, so they give an award out to
9:00
a filmmaker that. makes their
9:02
films in the. Spirit. Of junk
9:04
s of Eddie's. And
9:06
on. He. Went
9:09
up to accept his award and any and can
9:11
see or hear that. Free.
9:15
Palestine, Free Palestine. And
9:19
I'll stop the killing. Ceasefire
9:21
now. Free. Free Palestine.
9:23
Free Free Palestine. And
9:28
he said you know I
9:30
think with. Whoever and whatever
9:32
the same out there outside the tent.
9:36
Probably more important than what I have to
9:38
say. Collecting and award. And
9:42
the whole audience treat Nobody got
9:44
up, ran out of their see
9:46
to go beat the guy up.
9:49
Ah, the police showed up and said
9:51
well, he's on public property and he
9:53
has a right to free speech. And
9:56
even the host of the show Eighty Bryant said you
9:58
know round the beach. Then you
10:00
know. We. Support free
10:02
speech, And that
10:05
everybody applauded didn't. Even
10:07
though they were all their service Important
10:09
day for indie filmmakers. But
10:12
nobody wanted to shut him up. Any
10:14
wasn't. He was Not shut down. The
10:18
police did not arrest him. The
10:21
organizers of the show apparently ask the
10:23
police not to arrest him. That
10:27
in the spirit of independence
10:29
and independent film. This.
10:33
Blown. Individual. It
10:36
was necessary that he was there. And
10:39
saying when he said. And
10:43
arm they didn't release his name.
10:45
Whatever are I'll put up. Some.
10:48
Video. So.
10:50
Funny when you if you've traveled to
10:52
Israel and Palestine to to banning if
10:54
you have been the Gaza. One.
10:57
Of the. Kind of
10:59
interesting. Amazing things. is that
11:02
How similar? The.
11:05
People culture. The
11:07
food is. Because
11:10
both. Groups of people. To
11:13
Choose of Israel And The Arabs
11:15
and Muslims of Palestine. Our
11:18
cousins. They're both semitic.
11:21
Peoples. When you hear
11:23
that as well as anti semitic,
11:25
well which anti semitic thing are
11:27
you referring to Because. The
11:31
Arabs are so many people. And the
11:33
juice harris. And
11:40
just looking guy trying to for and
11:42
I in because so many of my
11:44
friends or people I know that who
11:46
are Jewish Americans have spent a lot
11:48
of time since October at many many
11:50
protests. Trying. To stop this.
11:53
Trying to stop the killing of
11:55
Palestinians. Kind of. Netanyahu
11:58
do next to push them. the
12:00
desert into Egypt. And
12:06
Jewish Voice for Peace, which is
12:08
an incredible organization. I encourage you
12:10
to join it. It's a Jewish
12:12
organization, but everybody is welcome to join.
12:16
You should sign up for their newsletter. You should attend
12:19
any rally or protest that they're putting on.
12:23
It's very powerful and very brave of them
12:25
to take the stand. And
12:29
I have so much love and respect
12:32
for them, because they
12:34
don't have to do that, I guess, right? I
12:36
mean, I guess you do if you have a conscience. But you
12:40
know, I could just go about living their
12:42
lives in New York and DC and Boston
12:44
and LA and San Francisco and Detroit and
12:47
Chicago. But no, they have been showing up,
12:50
standing up for Palestinian
12:52
people. It's
12:54
very uplifting to see this. And
12:58
it's not surprising. Because
13:03
if, well, if you are Jewish, or if you
13:05
have friends, co-workers, classmates,
13:09
neighbors who are Jewish, and
13:11
if you've spent any time talking to them
13:15
about Judaism and what it means
13:17
at its core, what
13:20
we are witnessing is
13:22
the opposite of
13:25
what their book says, of what they are supposed to
13:27
believe in. And they know it,
13:30
and they're crushed by this. And
13:34
the others who maybe are not
13:36
as left-leaning as some
13:38
of the anti-war groups, the
13:41
Israeli and the Jewish anti-war groups, they've
13:44
figured this out by now, that
13:46
Netanyahu and his war council have
13:49
made them not safer, but less
13:51
safe. Less
13:54
safe. Other
13:58
than people who are just not
14:01
thinking straight in Israel
14:04
other than that group those
14:07
who are really thinking this out know
14:10
that the what the endgame is here what
14:13
the result of all this is going to be and it's not going to
14:15
be a safer people for
14:17
the people who live in Israel and
14:22
in order in order to be safe
14:24
to not have any more bloodshed on
14:26
either side that the main
14:28
fighting unit in the so-called war
14:32
because one side has all
14:34
the guns all
14:36
the battleships all
14:39
the fighter jets let's
14:42
go down the whole list the
14:45
Palestinians have some improvised bombs
14:48
they've put together from parts
14:50
of bombs that when they've been bombed they
14:53
go and grab the parts where if the
14:55
bomb didn't go off they then
14:57
have been trying to form their own missile
15:00
brigade out of this nonsense I
15:03
yeah yeah well
15:10
whoever you are out there on the beach
15:12
in Santa Monica thank you thank
15:15
you for doing that Sunday night
15:19
that took a lot of courage to stuff
15:23
like that can go south
15:26
pretty quickly I hope
15:30
you're okay now for
15:33
some awful reason they've arrested you DM
15:35
me send me a message or send
15:38
me an email at Mike at Michael
15:40
Moore calm I'll put up the
15:42
money to bail you out of there in
15:45
Santa Monica if that's the case I have
15:48
a feeling it's not going to be the case in
15:50
part because everybody everybody
15:54
is against what's going on I
16:00
mean, think about this, in the last couple weeks, look
16:04
at all the labor unions that
16:06
have come out against Netanyahu, against
16:08
the IDF, against this massacre. The
16:12
United Auto Workers have
16:15
taken a very bold stand. They
16:17
want a ceasefire right now, tonight.
16:20
And it's not just the United Auto Workers, it's
16:23
the National Nurses Union, it's
16:25
the National Flight Attendants Union,
16:27
it's the National, I mean,
16:30
seriously, the flight attendants have turned against
16:32
you. Really?
16:37
I mean, you can look up the list.
16:39
I mean, there's at least 200 either
16:41
national or local labor unions
16:43
in this country alone opposed
16:46
to Biden continuing this war,
16:49
opposed to us funding more armaments
16:52
and more death machines. Over
16:56
200 unions, those
16:58
are just the unions. The
17:01
National Education Association, the America's Teachers, I mean,
17:03
just look at the list, just look at
17:05
the list. And
17:09
if you were just randomly and
17:11
without thinking, continuing
17:14
to support Netanyahu and
17:16
what that government is doing, you
17:18
should look at this list. I
17:21
know you're not going to want to look at it because
17:24
it's full of people that have always supported
17:26
Israel and would stand
17:29
and fight anyone who
17:31
would harm a single one
17:33
of our Jewish brothers and sisters. I've
17:38
said that over, I've taken that pledge over and
17:40
over, and I know many of you have
17:42
too. We
17:44
will never let happen
17:47
to the Jewish people what happened in the last
17:49
century. And
17:54
yet, those same people,
17:56
including me. Man,
18:02
it's over. I
18:05
mean, those of you supporting the war, those
18:07
of you supporting the massacre, the
18:10
killing of what
18:12
is it now, almost 20,000 women and children. And
18:16
you supporting that? No,
18:20
you're done. And
18:23
President Biden, this is what's really
18:26
upsetting us, is that you
18:30
are risking putting
18:34
Trump back in the White House. What is wrong with you?
18:38
It was an amazing, I'll post it here on the
18:40
site, op-ed by
18:43
Michelle Goldberg today in the
18:45
New York Times saying
18:47
basically, and she's writing this from
18:50
Michigan where she's been
18:52
getting ready for the primary on Tuesday.
18:55
She wrote this as a warning to Biden saying,
18:57
you don't get it. You're
19:00
going to lose Michigan. And
19:04
if you lose Michigan, it really
19:06
could probably mean you're
19:09
going to lose in November. And
19:13
Trump will be back in the Oval Office, and you're
19:15
the one who's going to be held responsible
19:17
for this. And
19:22
I'm going to talk to you a little bit about that after we thank
19:25
a couple of our underwriters here today,
19:27
but I just, I'm just so upset.
19:31
And I'm grateful to everybody
19:33
who has protested, who's
19:36
been out there, whether it's
19:38
the awards out in LA, whether
19:41
it's the upcoming Oscars. Oh
19:43
my God, I don't know if anybody saw
19:45
this, the Berlin Hills Hospital was this past week,
19:49
and the awards were handed out also there,
19:52
big awards season yesterday.
19:54
And the film that won best documentary,
19:57
this is in Berlin. It's
20:00
called No Other Land, a
20:04
film about the brutalization of
20:06
the Palestinian people and
20:09
the hardcore violent
20:11
apartheid actions
20:13
and regime from
20:16
Tel Aviv to the Palestinian
20:18
people. This film
20:20
was made by both Israeli
20:22
Jews and Palestinian Muslims.
20:26
They made it together. They focused on
20:28
one village where Netanyahu and his
20:30
gang, the
20:33
plan is and was to
20:35
remove everybody. Just annihilate this village, get
20:37
them all out of there, send them
20:40
south, send them to Egypt, send them
20:42
wherever, and it won
20:45
best documentary. And I'm going to... Actually,
20:48
you know what, Angie, if we
20:50
could just play, there's
20:52
a Channel 11 in Israel,
20:55
put up about 30 seconds of their
20:57
acceptance speech in Berlin for
21:00
winning this award for best documentary.
21:03
And it was so moving and people were
21:05
just in tears watching this film. These
21:08
are Germans. You
21:10
know, one of the co-directors, Yuval
21:12
Abraham, gave the acceptance
21:14
speech and he's standing beside Basil Adra,
21:17
one of his co-directors. I
21:20
think there's four of them, a woman named Rachel
21:22
and somebody else who made this film. And,
21:26
you know, they don't have
21:28
a distributor yet. They don't have one here
21:30
in the US. But again,
21:33
my plan is to just jot them a note and
21:36
let them know anything I can do to help
21:38
get distribution in the US so people can see
21:40
the truth of what's going on. That's what I'm
21:42
here for. Why?
21:45
Because I have been that way since I was
21:48
a teenager supporting our
21:50
Jewish brothers and sisters, protecting
21:53
the people in Israel, a
21:55
place for the survivors,
21:57
the victims of all cause to be able
21:59
to to go and be safe. And
22:04
of course, what they've learned in these last five
22:06
months is not only are they not safe,
22:10
and not only will they not be protected
22:12
by their own government, they've
22:16
lost the support of the world.
22:19
And very specifically in this country, of
22:22
young people, of
22:24
the Arab and Muslim community, many
22:29
other people of color, and
22:34
they're all very upset and
22:36
very angry. This
22:38
isn't like taking
22:41
a position on student loans, repaying
22:44
the debt. This isn't
22:46
about a border wall here with Mexico.
22:50
This issue is so fundamental. If
22:52
you don't know people that actually will
22:55
vote on one issue, I mean,
22:59
I'm sure many of you have this feeling.
23:01
How many people, since Roe v. Wade was
23:05
eliminated almost
23:07
two years ago now, do
23:10
you think of that issue, like women's
23:12
rights, the right to their own
23:14
bodies to determine what
23:16
they want to do if they
23:18
want to bring a child into this world? That
23:21
was ripped from them. Anybody
23:25
here going to make any decisions
23:29
this year, politically, based
23:31
on that one issue? I think you
23:33
were. And I
23:35
certainly am. Well,
23:38
this slaughter of
23:40
innocence in
23:43
Gaza, that
23:49
could affect the selection. Angie,
23:53
let's just play 30 seconds from
23:55
the director, co-director. I'm winning
23:57
the award at the Berlin Film Hospital for Best Docs.
24:00
I want to
24:04
say we are standing in front of you now. Me and Basil
24:06
are the same age. I am Israeli,
24:09
Basil is Palestinian. And
24:12
in two days we will go back to a land
24:14
where we are not equal. I
24:17
am living under a civilian law and Basil
24:20
is under military law. We
24:22
live 30 minutes from one another but I have voting
24:24
rights. Basil is not having voting rights.
24:27
I am free to move where I want in this land. Basil
24:30
is like millions of Palestinians locked in
24:32
the occupied West Bank. This
24:34
situation of apartheid between us is
24:37
inequality. It has to end. People
24:43
in Israel saw that on TV last night.
24:47
Very powerful. And
24:49
I want to read you something else. Yvonne
24:52
Abraham, one of the co-directors, the
24:55
one who just gave that speech
24:57
from the awards stage in Berlin,
24:59
also said this afterwards to the
25:01
German press. He said, quote,
25:05
I know Germans have a lot of guilt for
25:08
what happened in the Second World War. Abraham
25:12
added that many of his relatives
25:14
were killed during the Holocaust. Quote,
25:19
don't use this guilt now and weaponize
25:21
it and refuse to call for a
25:23
ceasefire. Speaking to the
25:25
German people here. Use it
25:27
to help us reach a
25:30
political solution. Use
25:32
it to pressure the state of Israel
25:34
to end the occupation. It's
25:44
the more this happens and
25:46
it happens every day, the
25:49
more that people speak
25:51
out, take a stand, give
25:53
up their moment in the spotlight.
25:55
I mean, he's on this big stage.
25:57
He's not live on German television. He's winning.
26:00
this award and he gives up that
26:02
time to to say you
26:04
know there's something more important going on here.
26:08
His film is called No Other
26:10
Land. I'll do
26:12
my best to make sure everybody listening to
26:14
this gets to see it. Let
26:17
me just I got to pause and thank
26:19
our underwriters here and then I'll
26:21
come back in just a second but let
26:24
me just just take this moment
26:26
to thank the good people who underwrite this
26:28
who allow me to have
26:30
my voice and have it heard who
26:32
do their best so that I don't have to stand
26:35
on a beach in Santa Monica with a
26:37
bullhorn or loudspeaker all
26:39
by myself. Today we've
26:41
got three underwriters and the first one I
26:44
want to thank is Netflix and their incredible
26:47
film that's been nominated for Best
26:49
International Feature Society of
26:51
the Snow. Society
26:54
of the Snow is one of the most
26:56
intense movies I've seen in
26:59
the last few years. I mean so
27:01
well done. It's based on the true
27:03
story which I'm sure many of you
27:05
might remember back in 1972. There
27:09
was an airplane crash in the Andes
27:11
Mountains in South America. There was a
27:13
rugby team on board. Those
27:16
who lived had to basically endure
27:18
72 days of brutal unbelievable
27:23
suffering but
27:25
they were determined to live. They were going
27:27
to survive. You've seen a couple
27:30
films like this before but I'm telling you my friends
27:32
you've never seen anything like this. One
27:35
review called it the most incredible survival
27:37
story of all time. Another critic said
27:39
this is a deeply felt portrait of
27:41
togetherness, brotherhood and
27:44
survival. At this
27:46
year's Goya Awards in Spain this
27:49
film Society of the Snow won 12. 12
27:53
Goya's that's their Oscars including for
27:55
Best Film, Best Director, on and
27:57
on and on. It
27:59
really took the country on South America
28:01
by storm and now we're
28:04
just now getting to see this incredible
28:06
incredible movie thanks to Netflix and
28:08
it's nominated for best international feature
28:10
at the Oscars here in a couple weeks
28:14
and it also has another
28:16
nomination I believe for hair and makeup yes
28:18
it's heartbreaking it's intense but
28:21
there is such an enormous heart
28:23
at the center of this film
28:26
and I want to encourage you to see it
28:28
it's called Society of the Snow to see it
28:31
on Netflix you won't
28:33
regret spending a couple of hours
28:35
with this amazing movie Society of
28:37
the Snow okay
28:42
now the primary the
28:44
Democratic primary in Michigan is
28:46
Tuesday Tuesday the
28:49
27th of February is
28:52
is the primary now of course
28:54
you know Biden's on the ballot
28:57
there's a couple of minor candidates that
28:59
have been on other ballots in
29:01
these primaries but they've really
29:03
picked up no votes and no
29:05
delegates so it's you know
29:08
it's it's it's Biden's I
29:10
think everybody knows that where we're at
29:12
now who the two candidates are going to be in November
29:15
it's going to be Joe Biden and
29:17
Donald Trump so
29:19
there's no doubt about you know
29:21
Biden winning the primary tomorrow but
29:25
a group in Michigan good people that
29:27
I know it's a
29:29
combination of progressives progressive
29:31
left Arab Americans
29:34
in the Detroit and Flint area and
29:37
and people who
29:40
are just absolutely fed up with this war
29:42
in Gaza and the fact that you and
29:44
I are paying for it so
29:46
they've come up with a good idea it's called listen
29:48
to Michigan and we know what's happened
29:50
in the past when you don't listen to Michigan the
29:53
Clinton campaign Hillary Clinton campaign in
29:56
2016 decided not
29:58
to campaign in Michigan or
30:00
Wisconsin, lost both states. And
30:03
as I told you last week, they
30:05
lost Michigan by an average of two
30:07
votes per precinct to Donald Trump.
30:11
He won Michigan by two
30:13
average, two votes per precinct.
30:16
So this has been a swing state for some time.
30:19
It's very democratic, very blue right
30:21
now. Democrats control both
30:23
houses in the state capital, the house
30:25
and the Senate. They control
30:28
the Supreme court. It's up and down
30:30
and all over the place. We
30:32
have a democratic governor, democratic lieutenant governor,
30:35
democratic attorney general, democratic secretary of
30:37
state, the lieutenant
30:39
governor is black. The governor is a woman.
30:42
The attorney general is gay. I
30:44
mean, it's Michigan has become
30:46
a very, very progressive state.
30:50
We have a new president of the UAW,
30:52
United Auto Workers Union, that is to
30:55
prove one of the best
30:57
leaders of the UAW that we've had in a
30:59
very, very long time. So things
31:02
are, have been looking up, going good.
31:04
We picked up another
31:07
seat in Congress in the midterms. So
31:09
things should be okay. Except
31:12
I'm going to, I'm going to put a link here on the
31:14
site. This op-ed yesterday on
31:17
Sunday in the New York Times
31:19
by Michelle Goldberg. Where
31:22
she says basically that
31:25
Biden, Biden
31:28
has upset so many tens of thousands of
31:30
people in the state of Michigan with this
31:33
indiscriminate slaughter, his
31:36
world. He
31:38
called Israeli the bombing, the bombing they're doing
31:40
is indiscriminate, but he only says
31:42
that privately. He won't say it out loud
31:44
publicly. And Michelle Goldberg
31:47
wrote yesterday that, that
31:50
Biden, because
31:52
he has not listened to the
31:54
people in Michigan, the democratic voters,
31:56
72% are against that. against
32:00
this war. They don't want any
32:02
more money going to the military. In Israel
32:05
right now until this, there's a
32:07
ceasefire, this is stopped, and there
32:09
has to be a whole new
32:11
conversation now about the occupation. Occupations
32:13
are wrong. Apartheid is wrong. We
32:16
all know this. Why have we let
32:18
this go for so long? Well they're not gonna let it
32:20
go anymore. I gotta tell you, the mail
32:22
that I'm getting from young people in Michigan,
32:25
from people in the Arab American community, wow,
32:29
my friends. I should post
32:31
some of these. I don't know. I have to get
32:33
their permission and everything probably, but I
32:35
mean, you read this and you think, oh
32:37
my god. I mean,
32:40
they're not gonna vote for Trump in November, but
32:43
my fear is that they're gonna stay home. Can't
32:47
stay home. Trump
32:49
can't come back. That's the
32:51
only way Trump can win, is
32:54
if the people against them don't show up. Don't
32:58
show up. Don't vote for Biden. So
33:02
how do we get this message through to Biden?
33:04
He's not listening to the people of Michigan. He's
33:06
not listening to its young people. He's not listening
33:09
to the Arab American community. And
33:11
so some of the people in Detroit came
33:13
up with this great idea called Listen to
33:16
Michigan. This is a
33:18
movement that's only about two weeks old and
33:20
it has caught on fire. Let me tell you
33:22
my friends, I'm just telling you this as
33:25
a Michigander, there are people
33:27
by the thousands who are gonna vote.
33:30
There's the alliances, Joe Biden,
33:33
Mary Ann Williamson is the next line,
33:35
Dean Reynolds. Those are the other candidates
33:38
that are running. And
33:40
then there's a line that says uncommitted. It
33:43
allows you to say, you know, right
33:45
now I'm just not too happy with
33:48
things. I'm not saying I'm not gonna
33:50
vote for Biden in November. Certainly
33:52
nobody wants Trump back in there. So you
33:55
can vote uncommitted tomorrow. And
33:57
there is a movement afoot. especially
34:00
in southeastern Michigan.
34:03
Many of our cities are majority
34:06
black in Michigan, Detroit, Flint,
34:09
Pontiac, Saginaw,
34:11
I think Lansing is. And
34:14
then over on the west side of the state, Benton Harbor,
34:17
it's as they say, a very diverse state. And
34:21
to purposely piss off young
34:23
people, people of color, women,
34:28
Arab Americans, it's
34:32
just, you know, why
34:34
would you do that? I
34:37
don't get it. I don't
34:40
get it. So a strong message
34:42
needs to be sent to Joe Biden tomorrow
34:44
in Michigan. We
34:47
all need to mark that little box that says
34:49
I'm committed. If
34:51
he sees how many people do that, maybe,
34:54
maybe it'll sink in that
34:56
he's in trouble. And
34:59
one place you can't be in trouble these days is
35:02
Michigan. He has to win
35:04
Michigan. But
35:08
he has to know just how upset people are. People
35:11
have lost family members, Arab
35:14
Americans, Muslim community. Just
35:17
in that area of Michigan, there's like a quarter million
35:20
Arab and Muslim Americans. Voters.
35:27
I mentioned the cities that are majority black.
35:29
We have majority Arab and Muslim cities
35:31
in Michigan. We have cities
35:34
where the mayors are Muslim. We
35:37
have cities where the majority of
35:39
the city council are Arab Americans.
35:44
Probably didn't know this about Michigan. It's got
35:46
the largest percentage of Arab and Muslim voters
35:48
in this country. And
35:54
by the way, these Arab Americans and Muslim
35:56
Americans, they were our neighbors that we grew
35:58
up with them. They worked in
36:00
the factories next to our dads and our grandmothers
36:02
and grandfathers. And they are loved.
36:05
They are loved by their
36:08
neighbors, their coworkers, their
36:10
classmates. You know, most
36:13
Arab Americans in Michigan will tell you,
36:15
this is a place of acceptance. This
36:18
is not a place of bigotry. It's
36:20
not a place where they have to worry about
36:22
violence against them. Not that they, they probably should
36:24
always worry about that no matter where they are
36:26
in this country at this point. But, wow.
36:32
What was a
36:35
story in the Times earlier this week about
36:38
the different factions on the campus of the
36:40
University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where
36:43
there are a lot of Arab
36:46
American students and there's a lot of Jewish
36:48
students. And it
36:50
told this little known history of the
36:52
University of Michigan that I've never seen
36:54
this in a national publication. We
36:57
know it in Michigan, but
36:59
back in the, let's call it the 20s, 30s, 40s,
37:01
the first half of the
37:04
20th century, if
37:07
you were Jewish in this country, it
37:09
was not easy to get into a good university.
37:13
They all had caps for, they
37:16
will accept only a minimal number of
37:19
Jewish students and no more than that.
37:21
They put a cap on it. It
37:24
was very discriminatory. It was anti-Semitic.
37:28
And we're talking about the Ivy League schools, the
37:31
other elite colleges, either no
37:34
Jews allowed or few Jews allowed. And
37:38
the people of Michigan and the people that ran
37:40
the University of Michigan were
37:43
frankly appalled at this
37:45
bigotry. And
37:48
so the time story sort of made this clear that while here
37:50
we are now in 2024 and you have
37:54
a different campus groups on different sides
37:57
of the slaughter in
37:59
Guyton, we have a But
38:03
the reason that there's even different groups is
38:05
because the University of
38:07
Michigan, 60,
38:10
70, 80 years ago, first of all, put the
38:12
word out that we
38:14
have no caps here
38:17
for Jewish students. We
38:20
will accept if your grades
38:22
were such or whatever, and it
38:24
didn't matter what you were. If
38:28
you were Jewish or not Jewish or whatever. And
38:31
this is way back all
38:33
those years ago. So it's
38:35
at a point now where there are, according
38:37
to the article, there are now 5,000 Jewish students in
38:41
Ann Arbor. I should have looked
38:43
this up, but I think there's
38:45
probably, I'm talking about undergrads now, there's
38:47
maybe 35,000 undergrads
38:51
that go to the University of Michigan, and
38:53
5,000 of them are Jewish.
38:58
I mean, but that's because that's
39:01
decades of having
39:04
an anti-bigotry policy.
39:08
And word got around the Jewish communities around the
39:10
country that there was this place, a
39:12
really great school that
39:16
welcomed all Jews. And
39:20
as times progressed into
39:22
the second half of the 20th century, all
39:26
Arab Americans, Muslims were
39:28
welcomed to. So right now on
39:30
the campus, you've got 5,000 Jewish
39:32
undergrads, and you've got 2,500 to 3,000 somewhere
39:34
in there of Muslim and
39:40
or Arab students. You
39:44
understand that's huge, right? It's
39:48
huge because, again, you probably
39:50
have to be from Michigan to know this history. But
39:53
the first black mayor in the country was
39:55
Floyd McCree of Flint, Michigan,
39:57
1965. before
40:02
Karl Stokes was
40:04
the mayor of Cleveland. Floyd
40:06
McCree in Flint, Michigan. Flint,
40:08
Michigan, the first city in the country to pass
40:11
an open housing ordinance, non-discrimination
40:14
against people because of their race or their religion.
40:17
Their ethnic origins, whatever. So
40:21
if I'm explaining this correctly,
40:25
people in Michigan don't like apartheid.
40:31
I was there when Nelson Mandela, when he got
40:33
out of prison and he came and did that
40:35
tour of the country and he came to Tiger
40:37
Stadium in downtown Detroit and
40:40
I got to hang with this
40:42
small group that was there that
40:45
welcomed him and brought him there and it's
40:48
just who we are and I'm
40:51
not saying it's perfect, believe
40:53
me it's not. I'm not saying
40:55
we don't have bigots, we got a boatload of
40:57
them just like every place else.
41:01
But when we see the
41:03
kind of stuff that's going on now, what Israel
41:06
is doing to the Palestinians, the
41:09
massacre of all these
41:11
civilians of children of women of the elderly and all
41:13
that, people are sick of it. And
41:17
the disappointment in Biden that
41:20
he has embraced Netanyahu, that
41:24
he has essentially given them a blank
41:26
check, here
41:29
more armaments, more bullets, more
41:31
everything and
41:33
it's not to protect the Israeli people. If
41:38
they weren't protected in October, that's
41:41
on their prime minister who
41:44
pulled the army back from the Gaza border for
41:46
still a yet to be
41:48
explained reason. Or
41:50
the investigative reporting that the Hebrew daily
41:53
harats in Israel
41:55
has done about how much
41:58
money over the last last decade,
42:00
Netanyahu has put into the
42:03
pockets of Hamas because
42:05
he was trying to create a wedge
42:08
between the two Palestinian groups, Hamas
42:10
in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority
42:12
in the West Bank, thinking
42:15
that if I can build this wedge, have them
42:17
fight each other, we win. We'll
42:21
destroy them all. So
42:25
I tell you that little story about the history of
42:27
the University of Michigan because there
42:30
is going to be an effect and a blowback, I
42:33
believe, in the Michigan primary. And
42:37
a lot of people, when you have like a
42:39
former congressman, Andy Levin, who's
42:41
Jewish, he's
42:43
actually an observant Jew. He was
42:46
the president of a synagogue there in
42:49
Detroit. But
42:51
because he talks about
42:53
Palestinian rights and
42:55
treating them the right way and not just giving
42:58
a blank check to the Netanyahu
43:00
government, when he ran
43:02
in the last election, he was an
43:04
incumbent Democratic member of Congress and
43:07
APAC and the Israeli lobby put
43:09
up millions of dollars to get rid of him and they
43:12
did. But
43:15
he was quoted here in
43:17
the Times and he still supports
43:19
Biden. He's going to vote
43:21
for Biden in November, but tomorrow in
43:24
the primary, he's voting uncommitted
43:27
because he wants to
43:29
be part of this group that's trying to send a
43:31
message to Joe Biden that you've got to knock it
43:34
off or you're going to lose the selection. He
43:38
told the Times, he said, really, I'm doing this
43:40
more to save Biden than anything else because he
43:42
doesn't get it. He doesn't understand Michigan. And
43:45
as the headline said over Michelle
43:47
Goldberg's column, you
43:49
lose Michigan, you lose
43:51
the election in November. So
43:55
that's what we're all up to tomorrow and I
43:57
want to encourage anybody and everybody about
44:00
doing this. Remember, you're
44:02
not against Biden. You can vote for him
44:04
in November, all this, but
44:07
we have to stop the killing of these kids now,
44:10
this week. This week,
44:13
no more. Can't
44:16
wait till November on this. People
44:19
are dying every single day,
44:21
and they're dying with
44:26
bullets and tanks and
44:28
bombs that you
44:30
and I pay for out of our tax dollars. That
44:33
means we're partly responsible for this. If we
44:35
sit by and do nothing and say nothing.
44:39
So please join with all of us, all
44:42
the people in our group, the
44:44
Jewish Voice for Peace, all
44:47
the anti-war activists, the progressive left,
44:50
Arab Americans. And
44:53
really, let me just say this to my fellow
44:55
white people. You know,
44:59
it's moments like this where if
45:02
you don't stop and think about the
45:04
fact that how you and I have
45:06
benefited from white privilege for a very
45:09
long time, long before we
45:11
were even born, things
45:13
got set up in this country in a certain way
45:16
that if you were white, the
45:18
doors opened a little wider and a little faster.
45:23
And you didn't go through
45:25
the same criminal justice system that
45:29
black and Hispanic and Arab Americans
45:31
go through. So
45:34
this is one of these times where maybe
45:36
you don't want to do this, this is a little, I don't
45:39
want to hit, you know, Biden, he's done a lot of
45:41
good things. He has done a lot of good things. And
45:44
Biden, you know, we got to get behind
45:46
him. Trump can't come back. You're right about
45:48
that. But
45:51
you have to also say, you know, but
45:55
our Arab American neighbors here in
45:57
Michigan are Muslim
45:59
neighbors. our
46:01
Jewish neighbors who are for peace. We
46:05
can't let them stand by themselves on this. We
46:08
have to stand with them. We
46:12
have to make up for some of that white privilege. This
46:15
is one of these moments where you can do something
46:17
constructive. We're
46:19
trying to send a message to
46:22
an otherwise decent president
46:24
of the United States who
46:26
has made a fatal error,
46:32
who has
46:35
been the bank for
46:38
the massacre of tens
46:41
of thousands of people since October. And
46:46
we cannot be silent. Silence
46:50
is violence. We
46:55
need to stand up for
46:58
our Arab neighbors in the state of Michigan,
47:01
the people that they've lost back home, all
47:06
the hassle and trouble they have to go through now.
47:10
Once again, what
47:12
they had to put up with after 9-11 simply
47:14
because they were Arab or
47:17
Muslim. Do
47:22
you feel good about this? I certainly
47:26
don't. I don't want any of this
47:28
done in my name. Don't
47:32
write me and say, Mike, you can't say this
47:34
kind of stuff. We can't. We have
47:36
to stop Trump. We'll stop Trump.
47:38
In fact, because we're gonna take
47:40
the stand tomorrow, we know
47:42
that we're gonna have to double and triple our efforts
47:46
to make sure that Biden
47:49
doesn't fall off the rails here so
47:52
that Trump doesn't come back. We know this. But
47:56
right now, we have
47:58
to stop the slaughter. It
48:01
can't go on another day. Biden
48:03
needs to wake up as I said on Wednesday morning
48:07
and go holy shit.
48:10
What happened in Michigan? Well,
48:13
sir, we tried to tell you. You
48:15
know, there's a heck of a
48:17
lot of Arabs and Muslims and Chaldeans
48:21
and Lebanese
48:24
and Syrians and Alisthenians.
48:32
They're pretty distraught. They
48:36
have a conscience. A
48:38
conscience does not allow them to pick up that
48:41
pen on Election Day and
48:43
color in a little circle by your name.
48:48
Not when they've got family who are dying, family
48:51
who are homeless,
48:53
70,000 Palestinians in
48:56
Gaza that have been wounded.
49:01
70,000? Plus the 30,000 dead? It's
49:10
not right. The whole world knows it's not
49:12
right. We in Michigan know it's not right.
49:15
We're going to mark that little circle,
49:18
that little box tomorrow that says uncommitted.
49:21
Not against. Uncommitted.
49:25
And you, Mr. President, you
49:28
have got to straighten up and fly right. Before
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okay we're gonna we're gonna close up shop here.
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Before we do that I began
52:55
the podcast here talking about how great it
52:57
is people showing up to demonstrate to protest
53:00
to have their voices heard whether it's one
53:02
person or a thousand people. My
53:04
enormous thanks to the pro-Palestinian
53:08
groups that have been organizing
53:11
this and but also to Jewish Voice
53:13
for Peace. Thank you so
53:15
much for making
53:18
your voice heard. There was also something
53:20
that happened yesterday I'm sure you read about
53:22
it by now or saw
53:24
it on TV for
53:27
the second time here since the
53:31
situation in Gaza and
53:34
in Israel on October
53:36
7th. It's the second
53:39
time yesterday that somebody decided
53:41
as a protest to set themselves on
53:44
fire and protest
53:46
what the Israeli government was
53:48
doing. This is a horrible thing I mean for those
53:50
of us old enough to remember
53:52
Vietnam and the Buddhist monks who
53:55
would set themselves on fire in
53:57
downtown Saigon to protest. war,
54:00
just not trying to stop the war. They
54:03
were willing to actually give up their lives so
54:06
that everybody would see the horror
54:09
of it all. That
54:11
happened yesterday again this
54:14
time in Washington DC, outside
54:16
the Israeli embassy, a United
54:19
States Air Force officer,
54:23
active duty Air
54:26
Force officer. He
54:28
had notified the press and
54:33
he made a statement standing outside the gates
54:35
of the embassy that
54:40
he could no longer tolerate nor support
54:42
his government, the one that he serves
54:44
as an active duty officer
54:46
in the US Air Force, could
54:49
no longer be
54:51
any kind of a participant in something
54:54
that is a slaughter of civilians, that
54:57
is a form of genocide. And
55:01
so he asked those
55:03
who were standing there on the sidewalk to do
55:05
what they could do to free
55:07
Palestine, support the Palestinian people,
55:11
do not support our war
55:14
that we're funding against these
55:16
innocent civilians. And then
55:19
took some, I assume some kind
55:21
of Petro and
55:24
doused himself with it, struck
55:27
the lighter and set
55:29
himself on fire. Now
55:32
as I'm recording this, as
55:34
of you know late Sunday night, they
55:36
said that he was still alive,
55:39
they had taken him to the hospital with serious
55:41
burns, life-threatening burns.
55:46
Oh, this
55:50
is not the kind of protest anybody
55:53
wants to see. And I
55:56
hope this man who
55:58
served his country here, lives.
56:02
I hope his family's okay. You
56:08
know it's got to be pretty bad if
56:11
somebody has to
56:13
go to that extent. To
56:19
have their voice heard. Man,
56:27
we live in a dark time. And
56:31
none of us want any of us to
56:34
continue. It has to
56:36
stop. President
56:38
Biden. You
56:42
and you alone can stop this.
56:47
Nobody else is standing
56:49
with Netanyahu. All
56:51
around the world, all sorts
56:53
of people, all sorts
56:56
of political beliefs, religions,
56:58
races, it's
57:01
you. And
57:07
the polls are going to open in another 24
57:09
hours here. And people like me, and there's going
57:16
to be thousands of them, are going to
57:18
mark uncommitted. They're not going to vote against you.
57:22
Well, some will. But generally,
57:25
it's to send a message to you that
57:29
there are going to be many people who
57:31
are not going to vote in November.
57:34
They're just not going to show up. That's
57:36
the worst thing that can happen. You've
57:40
got to do the right thing. That
57:43
token stuff like you've been doing, like, oh,
57:45
you're not going to deport any Palestinians
57:47
from the US for the next 18 months.
57:50
That's not what is needed.
57:52
What is needed right now is
57:54
to pull the plug. on
58:00
the slaughter, pull the plug on
58:02
the genocide, pull the plug on the apartheid.
58:07
These are not my words. These are
58:09
the words from Jewish voice for peace.
58:11
These are the words of the UN. These are
58:13
the words from leaders all over the world who
58:17
like you and support you and
58:20
have supported Israel. That's
58:23
it though. They're done. They're
58:26
done with this. No more
58:28
money for armaments. No
58:31
more military money until
58:33
this thing is resolved. And
58:37
if you don't agree with me, I understand. I
58:39
respect you, but hopefully
58:42
you've got to know that
58:46
the cheek is up here. The game's over.
58:52
Nobody's gonna support this kind of
58:54
madness anymore other
58:57
than mad people. That's
59:02
not me and that's not the
59:04
majority of Michiganders. And
59:06
I know a lot of people will have a
59:08
hard time marking
59:11
uncommitted on Tuesday. You'll
59:14
still get the vote for Biden
59:16
in November. We're gonna do everything
59:18
to make sure
59:20
Trump doesn't win. But
59:23
now it's kind of out of our hands because
59:26
too many people, not you and I necessarily, but
59:28
too many people have already made up their minds.
59:31
They're not gonna vote for Trump, but
59:34
they're not gonna show up. I
59:39
ask everybody, especially my
59:41
fellow Michiganders, come
59:43
Tuesday send a message,
59:46
a strong message. And
59:48
let me tell you by doing this, you're
59:51
saving Biden too. You're
59:53
saving Biden from himself. He
59:57
made the wrong decision going
59:59
and hugging. a monster and
1:00:03
he won't undo that for some
1:00:06
reason. It
1:00:09
can't be because he doesn't want another four years,
1:00:11
right? It's not that. Because
1:00:15
any sane, intelligent person knows that
1:00:17
what he's doing is
1:00:19
risking the return of Donald
1:00:21
Trump. Call
1:00:27
any family or friends you have, text
1:00:29
them, email them, who live in Michigan,
1:00:32
tell them to vote in the Democratic
1:00:34
primary on Tuesday, and to mark uncommitted.
1:00:40
The lifetime of November, once
1:00:42
Biden fixes what he's done, stops
1:00:46
the damage to
1:00:48
vote for Joe Biden and
1:00:50
to stop Donald Trump. But Tuesday
1:00:52
we have an immediate
1:00:54
mission, and that is
1:00:57
no more killing children, babies,
1:01:01
no more trying to push them into the desert.
1:01:07
President Biden, you
1:01:11
have to do the right thing. Please.
1:01:17
What will help you? I
1:01:23
hope you wake up on Wednesday morning to
1:01:28
a brutal awakening.
1:01:34
We're different in Michigan. It's
1:01:38
easy, or it's not easy.
1:01:45
But we have a long history. And
1:01:54
you have to listen to Michigan. This
1:02:00
is Michael Moore, this is my podcast rumble.
1:02:03
Thanks to my executive producer and editor Angela
1:02:05
Vargos, and to all of you who are
1:02:08
listening, and especially to
1:02:10
all of my friends, family, neighbors
1:02:14
in the state of Michigan. We
1:02:18
can stop the killing if we
1:02:20
send the message. Be well
1:02:22
everyone.
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