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Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

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Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

Ep. 309: In Michigan Tuesday, We Ask the President to Listen to Michigan

Monday, 26th February 2024
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0:03

The people. Want

0:05

peace? There.

0:08

Is. Thoroughly and

0:11

utterly clear. Page.

0:15

Seen enough, Since

0:17

October seventh when Hamas

0:20

militants invaded. Israel.

0:24

From Gaza. And

0:28

murdered. Over a thousand

0:30

people. It

0:33

was. A. Terrible day.

0:36

And. Of

0:38

course. There. Was. No

0:41

one there to help the people who live

0:43

in the commits as Heerema and the gas

0:45

importer. I

0:49

have people I know, friends

0:51

who live in a cupboard

0:53

sir to in Israel. Especially

0:56

the ones down there. By.

0:58

Gaza have to understand the

1:01

people live there generally the

1:03

past majority of them are

1:05

they believe in peace. They

1:08

believe in human rights. They

1:11

hate getting yahoo.

1:15

They involve form they don't wanna bowl from.

1:17

They want amount of their Just like over

1:19

eighty percent of Israel wants him out of

1:21

there. And

1:23

yet because he's a butcher? He's

1:26

not going anywhere. I. An

1:30

because we hand him. All

1:33

the tools that a butcher needs. To.

1:35

Slaughter. What? Will

1:37

probably by the morning

1:39

be now over thirty

1:41

thousand people palestinians. Civilians.

1:46

Two. Thirds of them. Children.

1:49

Women: A

1:52

lot more who are older, elderly

1:54

people. And

1:58

the. idea the

2:02

N'Yahu cabinet, the war cabinet,

2:05

they don't give a rat's ass who

2:07

dies just as

2:09

long as they're Palestinians. Because

2:12

you know they're guilty. Because

2:16

a few hundred of their

2:18

people, Palestinians, got

2:22

on scooters and hang gliders,

2:25

broke out of their outdoor prison, and

2:30

in a mad race to kill

2:32

the people they see as their

2:35

captors, their jailers, the people

2:37

that have kept them in this open-air prison for

2:39

14, 15, 16 years. And

2:47

it just continues every

2:49

single day. And

2:52

we fund it. We Americans

2:54

fund this. And Joe

2:56

Biden, President

2:58

Biden, you

3:00

are the topic of discussion today

3:02

again on my podcast, Rumble

3:05

with Michael Moore. And

3:08

I don't know if I mentioned this at the beginning. I

3:11

am Michael Moore. And

3:15

I voted for you, Mr. Biden. I'm

3:19

probably, as I've mentioned before, one of

3:22

the few people listening to this podcast

3:24

right now that has been to Gaza

3:26

in person, the

3:29

Palestine, the West Bank, had

3:33

Israeli soldiers firing weapons at

3:35

me and the other journalists

3:37

who were there to see

3:40

what was going on and

3:42

report what was going on.

3:44

This first trip was back

3:46

39 years ago. 39 years

3:50

ago I was there and I saw the

3:52

truth. I couldn't believe it. I

3:58

guess I... I didn't

4:00

believe it because I was seeing it with my own

4:02

two eyes. And once

4:05

you've seen this, you can't unsee it. Every

4:10

day around the world, I

4:12

would say probably close to every hour of every day

4:15

around the world, there is some kind of protest going

4:17

on calling for an

4:19

end to this war. It's not

4:21

really a war. It's an assault

4:24

against an imprisoned people who

4:26

have to live under apartheid rules.

4:29

They don't get to have a say in

4:32

what's going on. They

4:34

don't vote. They don't have human rights the

4:37

way Israeli citizens have them. And

4:40

let me tell you, there are

4:42

thousands upon thousands of these Israeli

4:44

citizens who are sickened by this

4:48

and who oppose the apartheid

4:50

regime of Benjamin Netanyahu and

4:55

who have taken to the streets every day

4:57

in Israel and

5:01

who know that Mr. Netanyahu

5:03

has absolutely little

5:05

interest in

5:07

getting those hostages back. The

5:10

longer the hostages are

5:12

being held, the longer he can

5:14

keep the carpet bombing,

5:16

the massacre going on. And

5:22

he can claim some justification for it. I

5:26

mean, I don't

5:28

really have any

5:30

contact with people in

5:33

Hamas, but I would say if somehow

5:37

you're listening to this, don't

5:43

hurt anybody. Don't kill

5:46

anybody. The

5:48

hostages are

5:50

civilians too. And I

5:52

can understand you're probably pretty upset

5:54

right now. You're probably

5:56

also pretty confused As

5:59

to why would the Prime Minister of

6:01

Israel bomb. All.

6:03

These neighborhoods where the hostages

6:05

are being kept. Why would

6:08

he risk their lives. I

6:12

mean, I think I read somewhere

6:15

over twenty twenty, maybe twenty to

6:17

thirty of the hostages have already

6:19

died as a result of the

6:21

massacre in. That state and

6:23

place of ask on the part

6:25

of the Israeli Defense forces. Every

6:29

day. There's. A protest. Every

6:33

there's and I mean people say

6:35

me video a semi se I

6:37

mean from all over the world.

6:39

This one woman in Tokyo her

6:41

name is Nori. And

6:44

everyday she conducts a one

6:46

woman protest on a street

6:48

corner was a difference. I

6:50

need stay. In Tokyo.

6:54

Just standing there call me out to

6:57

people. To

6:59

please stop the madness. Man.

7:08

It's amazing. I know some people

7:11

in this country don't understand why.

7:13

Why has the whole world risen

7:16

up. To

7:18

oppose this to pose what Netanyahu's

7:20

doing. It's

7:24

going on and tell you,

7:26

many times I've run across

7:28

small protests, large protests wherever

7:30

I happened to be. And.

7:34

Sunday night. On.

7:36

The Beach in Santa Monica,

7:38

California. The annual Independent Film

7:41

Spirit Awards, The. Spirit Awards

7:43

were taken place to start a war

7:45

teacher that come out and films. And.

7:50

There was. One. Person.

7:55

With. A tape on a

7:57

loop with is a loudspeaker

7:59

Standing legally. On the

8:01

other side of where the

8:03

awards or dame was outdoors

8:05

behind the police barricades, a

8:07

public space. And.

8:09

He turned on this loudspeaker. And

8:13

for nearly two hours. If.

8:15

You're watching this on the on

8:17

the streaming channels it was on.

8:21

It. When for almost two hours. And

8:24

you can hear it. Everybody in the

8:26

the big tent where the awards were

8:28

taken place on the beach could hear

8:30

it. People watching on Tv could hear

8:33

it. All the presenters, the people winning

8:35

awards. And.

8:38

One award winner. A

8:41

man who made a film. Called

8:43

Fremont was it being given the john

8:45

cast of any sort. Of

8:48

it is a great. One

8:50

of that really godfathers. It's of the

8:53

modern day independent film starting back in

8:55

the sixties. And

8:58

ah, so they give an award out to

9:00

a filmmaker that. makes their

9:02

films in the. Spirit. Of junk

9:04

s of Eddie's. And

9:06

on. He. Went

9:09

up to accept his award and any and can

9:11

see or hear that. Free.

9:15

Palestine, Free Palestine. And

9:19

I'll stop the killing. Ceasefire

9:21

now. Free. Free Palestine.

9:23

Free Free Palestine. And

9:28

he said you know I

9:30

think with. Whoever and whatever

9:32

the same out there outside the tent.

9:36

Probably more important than what I have to

9:38

say. Collecting and award. And

9:42

the whole audience treat Nobody got

9:44

up, ran out of their see

9:46

to go beat the guy up.

9:49

Ah, the police showed up and said

9:51

well, he's on public property and he

9:53

has a right to free speech. And

9:56

even the host of the show Eighty Bryant said you

9:58

know round the beach. Then you

10:00

know. We. Support free

10:02

speech, And that

10:05

everybody applauded didn't. Even

10:07

though they were all their service Important

10:09

day for indie filmmakers. But

10:12

nobody wanted to shut him up. Any

10:14

wasn't. He was Not shut down. The

10:18

police did not arrest him. The

10:21

organizers of the show apparently ask the

10:23

police not to arrest him. That

10:27

in the spirit of independence

10:29

and independent film. This.

10:33

Blown. Individual. It

10:36

was necessary that he was there. And

10:39

saying when he said. And

10:43

arm they didn't release his name.

10:45

Whatever are I'll put up. Some.

10:48

Video. So.

10:50

Funny when you if you've traveled to

10:52

Israel and Palestine to to banning if

10:54

you have been the Gaza. One.

10:57

Of the. Kind of

10:59

interesting. Amazing things. is that

11:02

How similar? The.

11:05

People culture. The

11:07

food is. Because

11:10

both. Groups of people. To

11:13

Choose of Israel And The Arabs

11:15

and Muslims of Palestine. Our

11:18

cousins. They're both semitic.

11:21

Peoples. When you hear

11:23

that as well as anti semitic,

11:25

well which anti semitic thing are

11:27

you referring to Because. The

11:31

Arabs are so many people. And the

11:33

juice harris. And

11:40

just looking guy trying to for and

11:42

I in because so many of my

11:44

friends or people I know that who

11:46

are Jewish Americans have spent a lot

11:48

of time since October at many many

11:50

protests. Trying. To stop this.

11:53

Trying to stop the killing of

11:55

Palestinians. Kind of. Netanyahu

11:58

do next to push them. the

12:00

desert into Egypt. And

12:06

Jewish Voice for Peace, which is

12:08

an incredible organization. I encourage you

12:10

to join it. It's a Jewish

12:12

organization, but everybody is welcome to join.

12:16

You should sign up for their newsletter. You should attend

12:19

any rally or protest that they're putting on.

12:23

It's very powerful and very brave of them

12:25

to take the stand. And

12:29

I have so much love and respect

12:32

for them, because they

12:34

don't have to do that, I guess, right? I

12:36

mean, I guess you do if you have a conscience. But you

12:40

know, I could just go about living their

12:42

lives in New York and DC and Boston

12:44

and LA and San Francisco and Detroit and

12:47

Chicago. But no, they have been showing up,

12:50

standing up for Palestinian

12:52

people. It's

12:54

very uplifting to see this. And

12:58

it's not surprising. Because

13:03

if, well, if you are Jewish, or if you

13:05

have friends, co-workers, classmates,

13:09

neighbors who are Jewish, and

13:11

if you've spent any time talking to them

13:15

about Judaism and what it means

13:17

at its core, what

13:20

we are witnessing is

13:22

the opposite of

13:25

what their book says, of what they are supposed to

13:27

believe in. And they know it,

13:30

and they're crushed by this. And

13:34

the others who maybe are not

13:36

as left-leaning as some

13:38

of the anti-war groups, the

13:41

Israeli and the Jewish anti-war groups, they've

13:44

figured this out by now, that

13:46

Netanyahu and his war council have

13:49

made them not safer, but less

13:51

safe. Less

13:54

safe. Other

13:58

than people who are just not

14:01

thinking straight in Israel

14:04

other than that group those

14:07

who are really thinking this out know

14:10

that the what the endgame is here what

14:13

the result of all this is going to be and it's not going to

14:15

be a safer people for

14:17

the people who live in Israel and

14:22

in order in order to be safe

14:24

to not have any more bloodshed on

14:26

either side that the main

14:28

fighting unit in the so-called war

14:32

because one side has all

14:34

the guns all

14:36

the battleships all

14:39

the fighter jets let's

14:42

go down the whole list the

14:45

Palestinians have some improvised bombs

14:48

they've put together from parts

14:50

of bombs that when they've been bombed they

14:53

go and grab the parts where if the

14:55

bomb didn't go off they then

14:57

have been trying to form their own missile

15:00

brigade out of this nonsense I

15:03

yeah yeah well

15:10

whoever you are out there on the beach

15:12

in Santa Monica thank you thank

15:15

you for doing that Sunday night

15:19

that took a lot of courage to stuff

15:23

like that can go south

15:26

pretty quickly I hope

15:30

you're okay now for

15:33

some awful reason they've arrested you DM

15:35

me send me a message or send

15:38

me an email at Mike at Michael

15:40

Moore calm I'll put up the

15:42

money to bail you out of there in

15:45

Santa Monica if that's the case I have

15:48

a feeling it's not going to be the case in

15:50

part because everybody everybody

15:54

is against what's going on I

16:00

mean, think about this, in the last couple weeks, look

16:04

at all the labor unions that

16:06

have come out against Netanyahu, against

16:08

the IDF, against this massacre. The

16:12

United Auto Workers have

16:15

taken a very bold stand. They

16:17

want a ceasefire right now, tonight.

16:20

And it's not just the United Auto Workers, it's

16:23

the National Nurses Union, it's

16:25

the National Flight Attendants Union,

16:27

it's the National, I mean,

16:30

seriously, the flight attendants have turned against

16:32

you. Really?

16:37

I mean, you can look up the list.

16:39

I mean, there's at least 200 either

16:41

national or local labor unions

16:43

in this country alone opposed

16:46

to Biden continuing this war,

16:49

opposed to us funding more armaments

16:52

and more death machines. Over

16:56

200 unions, those

16:58

are just the unions. The

17:01

National Education Association, the America's Teachers, I mean,

17:03

just look at the list, just look at

17:05

the list. And

17:09

if you were just randomly and

17:11

without thinking, continuing

17:14

to support Netanyahu and

17:16

what that government is doing, you

17:18

should look at this list. I

17:21

know you're not going to want to look at it because

17:24

it's full of people that have always supported

17:26

Israel and would stand

17:29

and fight anyone who

17:31

would harm a single one

17:33

of our Jewish brothers and sisters. I've

17:38

said that over, I've taken that pledge over and

17:40

over, and I know many of you have

17:42

too. We

17:44

will never let happen

17:47

to the Jewish people what happened in the last

17:49

century. And

17:54

yet, those same people,

17:56

including me. Man,

18:02

it's over. I

18:05

mean, those of you supporting the war, those

18:07

of you supporting the massacre, the

18:10

killing of what

18:12

is it now, almost 20,000 women and children. And

18:16

you supporting that? No,

18:20

you're done. And

18:23

President Biden, this is what's really

18:26

upsetting us, is that you

18:30

are risking putting

18:34

Trump back in the White House. What is wrong with you?

18:38

It was an amazing, I'll post it here on the

18:40

site, op-ed by

18:43

Michelle Goldberg today in the

18:45

New York Times saying

18:47

basically, and she's writing this from

18:50

Michigan where she's been

18:52

getting ready for the primary on Tuesday.

18:55

She wrote this as a warning to Biden saying,

18:57

you don't get it. You're

19:00

going to lose Michigan. And

19:04

if you lose Michigan, it really

19:06

could probably mean you're

19:09

going to lose in November. And

19:13

Trump will be back in the Oval Office, and you're

19:15

the one who's going to be held responsible

19:17

for this. And

19:22

I'm going to talk to you a little bit about that after we thank

19:25

a couple of our underwriters here today,

19:27

but I just, I'm just so upset.

19:31

And I'm grateful to everybody

19:33

who has protested, who's

19:36

been out there, whether it's

19:38

the awards out in LA, whether

19:41

it's the upcoming Oscars. Oh

19:43

my God, I don't know if anybody saw

19:45

this, the Berlin Hills Hospital was this past week,

19:49

and the awards were handed out also there,

19:52

big awards season yesterday.

19:54

And the film that won best documentary,

19:57

this is in Berlin. It's

20:00

called No Other Land, a

20:04

film about the brutalization of

20:06

the Palestinian people and

20:09

the hardcore violent

20:11

apartheid actions

20:13

and regime from

20:16

Tel Aviv to the Palestinian

20:18

people. This film

20:20

was made by both Israeli

20:22

Jews and Palestinian Muslims.

20:26

They made it together. They focused on

20:28

one village where Netanyahu and his

20:30

gang, the

20:33

plan is and was to

20:35

remove everybody. Just annihilate this village, get

20:37

them all out of there, send them

20:40

south, send them to Egypt, send them

20:42

wherever, and it won

20:45

best documentary. And I'm going to... Actually,

20:48

you know what, Angie, if we

20:50

could just play, there's

20:52

a Channel 11 in Israel,

20:55

put up about 30 seconds of their

20:57

acceptance speech in Berlin for

21:00

winning this award for best documentary.

21:03

And it was so moving and people were

21:05

just in tears watching this film. These

21:08

are Germans. You

21:10

know, one of the co-directors, Yuval

21:12

Abraham, gave the acceptance

21:14

speech and he's standing beside Basil Adra,

21:17

one of his co-directors. I

21:20

think there's four of them, a woman named Rachel

21:22

and somebody else who made this film. And,

21:26

you know, they don't have

21:28

a distributor yet. They don't have one here

21:30

in the US. But again,

21:33

my plan is to just jot them a note and

21:36

let them know anything I can do to help

21:38

get distribution in the US so people can see

21:40

the truth of what's going on. That's what I'm

21:42

here for. Why?

21:45

Because I have been that way since I was

21:48

a teenager supporting our

21:50

Jewish brothers and sisters, protecting

21:53

the people in Israel, a

21:55

place for the survivors,

21:57

the victims of all cause to be able

21:59

to to go and be safe. And

22:04

of course, what they've learned in these last five

22:06

months is not only are they not safe,

22:10

and not only will they not be protected

22:12

by their own government, they've

22:16

lost the support of the world.

22:19

And very specifically in this country, of

22:22

young people, of

22:24

the Arab and Muslim community, many

22:29

other people of color, and

22:34

they're all very upset and

22:36

very angry. This

22:38

isn't like taking

22:41

a position on student loans, repaying

22:44

the debt. This isn't

22:46

about a border wall here with Mexico.

22:50

This issue is so fundamental. If

22:52

you don't know people that actually will

22:55

vote on one issue, I mean,

22:59

I'm sure many of you have this feeling.

23:01

How many people, since Roe v. Wade was

23:05

eliminated almost

23:07

two years ago now, do

23:10

you think of that issue, like women's

23:12

rights, the right to their own

23:14

bodies to determine what

23:16

they want to do if they

23:18

want to bring a child into this world? That

23:21

was ripped from them. Anybody

23:25

here going to make any decisions

23:29

this year, politically, based

23:31

on that one issue? I think you

23:33

were. And I

23:35

certainly am. Well,

23:38

this slaughter of

23:40

innocence in

23:43

Gaza, that

23:49

could affect the selection. Angie,

23:53

let's just play 30 seconds from

23:55

the director, co-director. I'm winning

23:57

the award at the Berlin Film Hospital for Best Docs.

24:00

I want to

24:04

say we are standing in front of you now. Me and Basil

24:06

are the same age. I am Israeli,

24:09

Basil is Palestinian. And

24:12

in two days we will go back to a land

24:14

where we are not equal. I

24:17

am living under a civilian law and Basil

24:20

is under military law. We

24:22

live 30 minutes from one another but I have voting

24:24

rights. Basil is not having voting rights.

24:27

I am free to move where I want in this land. Basil

24:30

is like millions of Palestinians locked in

24:32

the occupied West Bank. This

24:34

situation of apartheid between us is

24:37

inequality. It has to end. People

24:43

in Israel saw that on TV last night.

24:47

Very powerful. And

24:49

I want to read you something else. Yvonne

24:52

Abraham, one of the co-directors, the

24:55

one who just gave that speech

24:57

from the awards stage in Berlin,

24:59

also said this afterwards to the

25:01

German press. He said, quote,

25:05

I know Germans have a lot of guilt for

25:08

what happened in the Second World War. Abraham

25:12

added that many of his relatives

25:14

were killed during the Holocaust. Quote,

25:19

don't use this guilt now and weaponize

25:21

it and refuse to call for a

25:23

ceasefire. Speaking to the

25:25

German people here. Use it

25:27

to help us reach a

25:30

political solution. Use

25:32

it to pressure the state of Israel

25:34

to end the occupation. It's

25:44

the more this happens and

25:46

it happens every day, the

25:49

more that people speak

25:51

out, take a stand, give

25:53

up their moment in the spotlight.

25:55

I mean, he's on this big stage.

25:57

He's not live on German television. He's winning.

26:00

this award and he gives up that

26:02

time to to say you

26:04

know there's something more important going on here.

26:08

His film is called No Other

26:10

Land. I'll do

26:12

my best to make sure everybody listening to

26:14

this gets to see it. Let

26:17

me just I got to pause and thank

26:19

our underwriters here and then I'll

26:21

come back in just a second but let

26:24

me just just take this moment

26:26

to thank the good people who underwrite this

26:28

who allow me to have

26:30

my voice and have it heard who

26:32

do their best so that I don't have to stand

26:35

on a beach in Santa Monica with a

26:37

bullhorn or loudspeaker all

26:39

by myself. Today we've

26:41

got three underwriters and the first one I

26:44

want to thank is Netflix and their incredible

26:47

film that's been nominated for Best

26:49

International Feature Society of

26:51

the Snow. Society

26:54

of the Snow is one of the most

26:56

intense movies I've seen in

26:59

the last few years. I mean so

27:01

well done. It's based on the true

27:03

story which I'm sure many of you

27:05

might remember back in 1972. There

27:09

was an airplane crash in the Andes

27:11

Mountains in South America. There was a

27:13

rugby team on board. Those

27:16

who lived had to basically endure

27:18

72 days of brutal unbelievable

27:23

suffering but

27:25

they were determined to live. They were going

27:27

to survive. You've seen a couple

27:30

films like this before but I'm telling you my friends

27:32

you've never seen anything like this. One

27:35

review called it the most incredible survival

27:37

story of all time. Another critic said

27:39

this is a deeply felt portrait of

27:41

togetherness, brotherhood and

27:44

survival. At this

27:46

year's Goya Awards in Spain this

27:49

film Society of the Snow won 12. 12

27:53

Goya's that's their Oscars including for

27:55

Best Film, Best Director, on and

27:57

on and on. It

27:59

really took the country on South America

28:01

by storm and now we're

28:04

just now getting to see this incredible

28:06

incredible movie thanks to Netflix and

28:08

it's nominated for best international feature

28:10

at the Oscars here in a couple weeks

28:14

and it also has another

28:16

nomination I believe for hair and makeup yes

28:18

it's heartbreaking it's intense but

28:21

there is such an enormous heart

28:23

at the center of this film

28:26

and I want to encourage you to see it

28:28

it's called Society of the Snow to see it

28:31

on Netflix you won't

28:33

regret spending a couple of hours

28:35

with this amazing movie Society of

28:37

the Snow okay

28:42

now the primary the

28:44

Democratic primary in Michigan is

28:46

Tuesday Tuesday the

28:49

27th of February is

28:52

is the primary now of course

28:54

you know Biden's on the ballot

28:57

there's a couple of minor candidates that

28:59

have been on other ballots in

29:01

these primaries but they've really

29:03

picked up no votes and no

29:05

delegates so it's you know

29:08

it's it's it's Biden's I

29:10

think everybody knows that where we're at

29:12

now who the two candidates are going to be in November

29:15

it's going to be Joe Biden and

29:17

Donald Trump so

29:19

there's no doubt about you know

29:21

Biden winning the primary tomorrow but

29:25

a group in Michigan good people that

29:27

I know it's a

29:29

combination of progressives progressive

29:31

left Arab Americans

29:34

in the Detroit and Flint area and

29:37

and people who

29:40

are just absolutely fed up with this war

29:42

in Gaza and the fact that you and

29:44

I are paying for it so

29:46

they've come up with a good idea it's called listen

29:48

to Michigan and we know what's happened

29:50

in the past when you don't listen to Michigan the

29:53

Clinton campaign Hillary Clinton campaign in

29:56

2016 decided not

29:58

to campaign in Michigan or

30:00

Wisconsin, lost both states. And

30:03

as I told you last week, they

30:05

lost Michigan by an average of two

30:07

votes per precinct to Donald Trump.

30:11

He won Michigan by two

30:13

average, two votes per precinct.

30:16

So this has been a swing state for some time.

30:19

It's very democratic, very blue right

30:21

now. Democrats control both

30:23

houses in the state capital, the house

30:25

and the Senate. They control

30:28

the Supreme court. It's up and down

30:30

and all over the place. We

30:32

have a democratic governor, democratic lieutenant governor,

30:35

democratic attorney general, democratic secretary of

30:37

state, the lieutenant

30:39

governor is black. The governor is a woman.

30:42

The attorney general is gay. I

30:44

mean, it's Michigan has become

30:46

a very, very progressive state.

30:50

We have a new president of the UAW,

30:52

United Auto Workers Union, that is to

30:55

prove one of the best

30:57

leaders of the UAW that we've had in a

30:59

very, very long time. So things

31:02

are, have been looking up, going good.

31:04

We picked up another

31:07

seat in Congress in the midterms. So

31:09

things should be okay. Except

31:12

I'm going to, I'm going to put a link here on the

31:14

site. This op-ed yesterday on

31:17

Sunday in the New York Times

31:19

by Michelle Goldberg. Where

31:22

she says basically that

31:25

Biden, Biden

31:28

has upset so many tens of thousands of

31:30

people in the state of Michigan with this

31:33

indiscriminate slaughter, his

31:36

world. He

31:38

called Israeli the bombing, the bombing they're doing

31:40

is indiscriminate, but he only says

31:42

that privately. He won't say it out loud

31:44

publicly. And Michelle Goldberg

31:47

wrote yesterday that, that

31:50

Biden, because

31:52

he has not listened to the

31:54

people in Michigan, the democratic voters,

31:56

72% are against that. against

32:00

this war. They don't want any

32:02

more money going to the military. In Israel

32:05

right now until this, there's a

32:07

ceasefire, this is stopped, and there

32:09

has to be a whole new

32:11

conversation now about the occupation. Occupations

32:13

are wrong. Apartheid is wrong. We

32:16

all know this. Why have we let

32:18

this go for so long? Well they're not gonna let it

32:20

go anymore. I gotta tell you, the mail

32:22

that I'm getting from young people in Michigan,

32:25

from people in the Arab American community, wow,

32:29

my friends. I should post

32:31

some of these. I don't know. I have to get

32:33

their permission and everything probably, but I

32:35

mean, you read this and you think, oh

32:37

my god. I mean,

32:40

they're not gonna vote for Trump in November, but

32:43

my fear is that they're gonna stay home. Can't

32:47

stay home. Trump

32:49

can't come back. That's the

32:51

only way Trump can win, is

32:54

if the people against them don't show up. Don't

32:58

show up. Don't vote for Biden. So

33:02

how do we get this message through to Biden?

33:04

He's not listening to the people of Michigan. He's

33:06

not listening to its young people. He's not listening

33:09

to the Arab American community. And

33:11

so some of the people in Detroit came

33:13

up with this great idea called Listen to

33:16

Michigan. This is a

33:18

movement that's only about two weeks old and

33:20

it has caught on fire. Let me tell you

33:22

my friends, I'm just telling you this as

33:25

a Michigander, there are people

33:27

by the thousands who are gonna vote.

33:30

There's the alliances, Joe Biden,

33:33

Mary Ann Williamson is the next line,

33:35

Dean Reynolds. Those are the other candidates

33:38

that are running. And

33:40

then there's a line that says uncommitted. It

33:43

allows you to say, you know, right

33:45

now I'm just not too happy with

33:48

things. I'm not saying I'm not gonna

33:50

vote for Biden in November. Certainly

33:52

nobody wants Trump back in there. So you

33:55

can vote uncommitted tomorrow. And

33:57

there is a movement afoot. especially

34:00

in southeastern Michigan.

34:03

Many of our cities are majority

34:06

black in Michigan, Detroit, Flint,

34:09

Pontiac, Saginaw,

34:11

I think Lansing is. And

34:14

then over on the west side of the state, Benton Harbor,

34:17

it's as they say, a very diverse state. And

34:21

to purposely piss off young

34:23

people, people of color, women,

34:28

Arab Americans, it's

34:32

just, you know, why

34:34

would you do that? I

34:37

don't get it. I don't

34:40

get it. So a strong message

34:42

needs to be sent to Joe Biden tomorrow

34:44

in Michigan. We

34:47

all need to mark that little box that says

34:49

I'm committed. If

34:51

he sees how many people do that, maybe,

34:54

maybe it'll sink in that

34:56

he's in trouble. And

34:59

one place you can't be in trouble these days is

35:02

Michigan. He has to win

35:04

Michigan. But

35:08

he has to know just how upset people are. People

35:11

have lost family members, Arab

35:14

Americans, Muslim community. Just

35:17

in that area of Michigan, there's like a quarter million

35:20

Arab and Muslim Americans. Voters.

35:27

I mentioned the cities that are majority black.

35:29

We have majority Arab and Muslim cities

35:31

in Michigan. We have cities

35:34

where the mayors are Muslim. We

35:37

have cities where the majority of

35:39

the city council are Arab Americans.

35:44

Probably didn't know this about Michigan. It's got

35:46

the largest percentage of Arab and Muslim voters

35:48

in this country. And

35:54

by the way, these Arab Americans and Muslim

35:56

Americans, they were our neighbors that we grew

35:58

up with them. They worked in

36:00

the factories next to our dads and our grandmothers

36:02

and grandfathers. And they are loved.

36:05

They are loved by their

36:08

neighbors, their coworkers, their

36:10

classmates. You know, most

36:13

Arab Americans in Michigan will tell you,

36:15

this is a place of acceptance. This

36:18

is not a place of bigotry. It's

36:20

not a place where they have to worry about

36:22

violence against them. Not that they, they probably should

36:24

always worry about that no matter where they are

36:26

in this country at this point. But, wow.

36:32

What was a

36:35

story in the Times earlier this week about

36:38

the different factions on the campus of the

36:40

University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, where

36:43

there are a lot of Arab

36:46

American students and there's a lot of Jewish

36:48

students. And it

36:50

told this little known history of the

36:52

University of Michigan that I've never seen

36:54

this in a national publication. We

36:57

know it in Michigan, but

36:59

back in the, let's call it the 20s, 30s, 40s,

37:01

the first half of the

37:04

20th century, if

37:07

you were Jewish in this country, it

37:09

was not easy to get into a good university.

37:13

They all had caps for, they

37:16

will accept only a minimal number of

37:19

Jewish students and no more than that.

37:21

They put a cap on it. It

37:24

was very discriminatory. It was anti-Semitic.

37:28

And we're talking about the Ivy League schools, the

37:31

other elite colleges, either no

37:34

Jews allowed or few Jews allowed. And

37:38

the people of Michigan and the people that ran

37:40

the University of Michigan were

37:43

frankly appalled at this

37:45

bigotry. And

37:48

so the time story sort of made this clear that while here

37:50

we are now in 2024 and you have

37:54

a different campus groups on different sides

37:57

of the slaughter in

37:59

Guyton, we have a But

38:03

the reason that there's even different groups is

38:05

because the University of

38:07

Michigan, 60,

38:10

70, 80 years ago, first of all, put the

38:12

word out that we

38:14

have no caps here

38:17

for Jewish students. We

38:20

will accept if your grades

38:22

were such or whatever, and it

38:24

didn't matter what you were. If

38:28

you were Jewish or not Jewish or whatever. And

38:31

this is way back all

38:33

those years ago. So it's

38:35

at a point now where there are, according

38:37

to the article, there are now 5,000 Jewish students in

38:41

Ann Arbor. I should have looked

38:43

this up, but I think there's

38:45

probably, I'm talking about undergrads now, there's

38:47

maybe 35,000 undergrads

38:51

that go to the University of Michigan, and

38:53

5,000 of them are Jewish.

38:58

I mean, but that's because that's

39:01

decades of having

39:04

an anti-bigotry policy.

39:08

And word got around the Jewish communities around the

39:10

country that there was this place, a

39:12

really great school that

39:16

welcomed all Jews. And

39:20

as times progressed into

39:22

the second half of the 20th century, all

39:26

Arab Americans, Muslims were

39:28

welcomed to. So right now on

39:30

the campus, you've got 5,000 Jewish

39:32

undergrads, and you've got 2,500 to 3,000 somewhere

39:34

in there of Muslim and

39:40

or Arab students. You

39:44

understand that's huge, right? It's

39:48

huge because, again, you probably

39:50

have to be from Michigan to know this history. But

39:53

the first black mayor in the country was

39:55

Floyd McCree of Flint, Michigan,

39:57

1965. before

40:02

Karl Stokes was

40:04

the mayor of Cleveland. Floyd

40:06

McCree in Flint, Michigan. Flint,

40:08

Michigan, the first city in the country to pass

40:11

an open housing ordinance, non-discrimination

40:14

against people because of their race or their religion.

40:17

Their ethnic origins, whatever. So

40:21

if I'm explaining this correctly,

40:25

people in Michigan don't like apartheid.

40:31

I was there when Nelson Mandela, when he got

40:33

out of prison and he came and did that

40:35

tour of the country and he came to Tiger

40:37

Stadium in downtown Detroit and

40:40

I got to hang with this

40:42

small group that was there that

40:45

welcomed him and brought him there and it's

40:48

just who we are and I'm

40:51

not saying it's perfect, believe

40:53

me it's not. I'm not saying

40:55

we don't have bigots, we got a boatload of

40:57

them just like every place else.

41:01

But when we see the

41:03

kind of stuff that's going on now, what Israel

41:06

is doing to the Palestinians, the

41:09

massacre of all these

41:11

civilians of children of women of the elderly and all

41:13

that, people are sick of it. And

41:17

the disappointment in Biden that

41:20

he has embraced Netanyahu, that

41:24

he has essentially given them a blank

41:26

check, here

41:29

more armaments, more bullets, more

41:31

everything and

41:33

it's not to protect the Israeli people. If

41:38

they weren't protected in October, that's

41:41

on their prime minister who

41:44

pulled the army back from the Gaza border for

41:46

still a yet to be

41:48

explained reason. Or

41:50

the investigative reporting that the Hebrew daily

41:53

harats in Israel

41:55

has done about how much

41:58

money over the last last decade,

42:00

Netanyahu has put into the

42:03

pockets of Hamas because

42:05

he was trying to create a wedge

42:08

between the two Palestinian groups, Hamas

42:10

in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority

42:12

in the West Bank, thinking

42:15

that if I can build this wedge, have them

42:17

fight each other, we win. We'll

42:21

destroy them all. So

42:25

I tell you that little story about the history of

42:27

the University of Michigan because there

42:30

is going to be an effect and a blowback, I

42:33

believe, in the Michigan primary. And

42:37

a lot of people, when you have like a

42:39

former congressman, Andy Levin, who's

42:41

Jewish, he's

42:43

actually an observant Jew. He was

42:46

the president of a synagogue there in

42:49

Detroit. But

42:51

because he talks about

42:53

Palestinian rights and

42:55

treating them the right way and not just giving

42:58

a blank check to the Netanyahu

43:00

government, when he ran

43:02

in the last election, he was an

43:04

incumbent Democratic member of Congress and

43:07

APAC and the Israeli lobby put

43:09

up millions of dollars to get rid of him and they

43:12

did. But

43:15

he was quoted here in

43:17

the Times and he still supports

43:19

Biden. He's going to vote

43:21

for Biden in November, but tomorrow in

43:24

the primary, he's voting uncommitted

43:27

because he wants to

43:29

be part of this group that's trying to send a

43:31

message to Joe Biden that you've got to knock it

43:34

off or you're going to lose the selection. He

43:38

told the Times, he said, really, I'm doing this

43:40

more to save Biden than anything else because he

43:42

doesn't get it. He doesn't understand Michigan. And

43:45

as the headline said over Michelle

43:47

Goldberg's column, you

43:49

lose Michigan, you lose

43:51

the election in November. So

43:55

that's what we're all up to tomorrow and I

43:57

want to encourage anybody and everybody about

44:00

doing this. Remember, you're

44:02

not against Biden. You can vote for him

44:04

in November, all this, but

44:07

we have to stop the killing of these kids now,

44:10

this week. This week,

44:13

no more. Can't

44:16

wait till November on this. People

44:19

are dying every single day,

44:21

and they're dying with

44:26

bullets and tanks and

44:28

bombs that you

44:30

and I pay for out of our tax dollars. That

44:33

means we're partly responsible for this. If we

44:35

sit by and do nothing and say nothing.

44:39

So please join with all of us, all

44:42

the people in our group, the

44:44

Jewish Voice for Peace, all

44:47

the anti-war activists, the progressive left,

44:50

Arab Americans. And

44:53

really, let me just say this to my fellow

44:55

white people. You know,

44:59

it's moments like this where if

45:02

you don't stop and think about the

45:04

fact that how you and I have

45:06

benefited from white privilege for a very

45:09

long time, long before we

45:11

were even born, things

45:13

got set up in this country in a certain way

45:16

that if you were white, the

45:18

doors opened a little wider and a little faster.

45:23

And you didn't go through

45:25

the same criminal justice system that

45:29

black and Hispanic and Arab Americans

45:31

go through. So

45:34

this is one of these times where maybe

45:36

you don't want to do this, this is a little, I don't

45:39

want to hit, you know, Biden, he's done a lot of

45:41

good things. He has done a lot of good things. And

45:44

Biden, you know, we got to get behind

45:46

him. Trump can't come back. You're right about

45:48

that. But

45:51

you have to also say, you know, but

45:55

our Arab American neighbors here in

45:57

Michigan are Muslim

45:59

neighbors. our

46:01

Jewish neighbors who are for peace. We

46:05

can't let them stand by themselves on this. We

46:08

have to stand with them. We

46:12

have to make up for some of that white privilege. This

46:15

is one of these moments where you can do something

46:17

constructive. We're

46:19

trying to send a message to

46:22

an otherwise decent president

46:24

of the United States who

46:26

has made a fatal error,

46:32

who has

46:35

been the bank for

46:38

the massacre of tens

46:41

of thousands of people since October. And

46:46

we cannot be silent. Silence

46:50

is violence. We

46:55

need to stand up for

46:58

our Arab neighbors in the state of Michigan,

47:01

the people that they've lost back home, all

47:06

the hassle and trouble they have to go through now.

47:10

Once again, what

47:12

they had to put up with after 9-11 simply

47:14

because they were Arab or

47:17

Muslim. Do

47:22

you feel good about this? I certainly

47:26

don't. I don't want any of this

47:28

done in my name. Don't

47:32

write me and say, Mike, you can't say this

47:34

kind of stuff. We can't. We have

47:36

to stop Trump. We'll stop Trump.

47:38

In fact, because we're gonna take

47:40

the stand tomorrow, we know

47:42

that we're gonna have to double and triple our efforts

47:46

to make sure that Biden

47:49

doesn't fall off the rails here so

47:52

that Trump doesn't come back. We know this. But

47:56

right now, we have

47:58

to stop the slaughter. It

48:01

can't go on another day. Biden

48:03

needs to wake up as I said on Wednesday morning

48:07

and go holy shit.

48:10

What happened in Michigan? Well,

48:13

sir, we tried to tell you. You

48:15

know, there's a heck of a

48:17

lot of Arabs and Muslims and Chaldeans

48:21

and Lebanese

48:24

and Syrians and Alisthenians.

48:32

They're pretty distraught. They

48:36

have a conscience. A

48:38

conscience does not allow them to pick up that

48:41

pen on Election Day and

48:43

color in a little circle by your name.

48:48

Not when they've got family who are dying, family

48:51

who are homeless,

48:53

70,000 Palestinians in

48:56

Gaza that have been wounded.

49:01

70,000? Plus the 30,000 dead? It's

49:10

not right. The whole world knows it's not

49:12

right. We in Michigan know it's not right.

49:15

We're going to mark that little circle,

49:18

that little box tomorrow that says uncommitted.

49:21

Not against. Uncommitted.

49:25

And you, Mr. President, you

49:28

have got to straighten up and fly right. Before

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Before we do that I began

52:55

the podcast here talking about how great it

52:57

is people showing up to demonstrate to protest

53:00

to have their voices heard whether it's one

53:02

person or a thousand people. My

53:04

enormous thanks to the pro-Palestinian

53:08

groups that have been organizing

53:11

this and but also to Jewish Voice

53:13

for Peace. Thank you so

53:15

much for making

53:18

your voice heard. There was also something

53:20

that happened yesterday I'm sure you read about

53:22

it by now or saw

53:24

it on TV for

53:27

the second time here since the

53:31

situation in Gaza and

53:34

in Israel on October

53:36

7th. It's the second

53:39

time yesterday that somebody decided

53:41

as a protest to set themselves on

53:44

fire and protest

53:46

what the Israeli government was

53:48

doing. This is a horrible thing I mean for those

53:50

of us old enough to remember

53:52

Vietnam and the Buddhist monks who

53:55

would set themselves on fire in

53:57

downtown Saigon to protest. war,

54:00

just not trying to stop the war. They

54:03

were willing to actually give up their lives so

54:06

that everybody would see the horror

54:09

of it all. That

54:11

happened yesterday again this

54:14

time in Washington DC, outside

54:16

the Israeli embassy, a United

54:19

States Air Force officer,

54:23

active duty Air

54:26

Force officer. He

54:28

had notified the press and

54:33

he made a statement standing outside the gates

54:35

of the embassy that

54:40

he could no longer tolerate nor support

54:42

his government, the one that he serves

54:44

as an active duty officer

54:46

in the US Air Force, could

54:49

no longer be

54:51

any kind of a participant in something

54:54

that is a slaughter of civilians, that

54:57

is a form of genocide. And

55:01

so he asked those

55:03

who were standing there on the sidewalk to do

55:05

what they could do to free

55:07

Palestine, support the Palestinian people,

55:11

do not support our war

55:14

that we're funding against these

55:16

innocent civilians. And then

55:19

took some, I assume some kind

55:21

of Petro and

55:24

doused himself with it, struck

55:27

the lighter and set

55:29

himself on fire. Now

55:32

as I'm recording this, as

55:34

of you know late Sunday night, they

55:36

said that he was still alive,

55:39

they had taken him to the hospital with serious

55:41

burns, life-threatening burns.

55:46

Oh, this

55:50

is not the kind of protest anybody

55:53

wants to see. And I

55:56

hope this man who

55:58

served his country here, lives.

56:02

I hope his family's okay. You

56:08

know it's got to be pretty bad if

56:11

somebody has to

56:13

go to that extent. To

56:19

have their voice heard. Man,

56:27

we live in a dark time. And

56:31

none of us want any of us to

56:34

continue. It has to

56:36

stop. President

56:38

Biden. You

56:42

and you alone can stop this.

56:47

Nobody else is standing

56:49

with Netanyahu. All

56:51

around the world, all sorts

56:53

of people, all sorts

56:56

of political beliefs, religions,

56:58

races, it's

57:01

you. And

57:07

the polls are going to open in another 24

57:09

hours here. And people like me, and there's going

57:16

to be thousands of them, are going to

57:18

mark uncommitted. They're not going to vote against you.

57:22

Well, some will. But generally,

57:25

it's to send a message to you that

57:29

there are going to be many people who

57:31

are not going to vote in November.

57:34

They're just not going to show up. That's

57:36

the worst thing that can happen. You've

57:40

got to do the right thing. That

57:43

token stuff like you've been doing, like, oh,

57:45

you're not going to deport any Palestinians

57:47

from the US for the next 18 months.

57:50

That's not what is needed.

57:52

What is needed right now is

57:54

to pull the plug. on

58:00

the slaughter, pull the plug on

58:02

the genocide, pull the plug on the apartheid.

58:07

These are not my words. These are

58:09

the words from Jewish voice for peace.

58:11

These are the words of the UN. These are

58:13

the words from leaders all over the world who

58:17

like you and support you and

58:20

have supported Israel. That's

58:23

it though. They're done. They're

58:26

done with this. No more

58:28

money for armaments. No

58:31

more military money until

58:33

this thing is resolved. And

58:37

if you don't agree with me, I understand. I

58:39

respect you, but hopefully

58:42

you've got to know that

58:46

the cheek is up here. The game's over.

58:52

Nobody's gonna support this kind of

58:54

madness anymore other

58:57

than mad people. That's

59:02

not me and that's not the

59:04

majority of Michiganders. And

59:06

I know a lot of people will have a

59:08

hard time marking

59:11

uncommitted on Tuesday. You'll

59:14

still get the vote for Biden

59:16

in November. We're gonna do everything

59:18

to make sure

59:20

Trump doesn't win. But

59:23

now it's kind of out of our hands because

59:26

too many people, not you and I necessarily, but

59:28

too many people have already made up their minds.

59:31

They're not gonna vote for Trump, but

59:34

they're not gonna show up. I

59:39

ask everybody, especially my

59:41

fellow Michiganders, come

59:43

Tuesday send a message,

59:46

a strong message. And

59:48

let me tell you by doing this, you're

59:51

saving Biden too. You're

59:53

saving Biden from himself. He

59:57

made the wrong decision going

59:59

and hugging. a monster and

1:00:03

he won't undo that for some

1:00:06

reason. It

1:00:09

can't be because he doesn't want another four years,

1:00:11

right? It's not that. Because

1:00:15

any sane, intelligent person knows that

1:00:17

what he's doing is

1:00:19

risking the return of Donald

1:00:21

Trump. Call

1:00:27

any family or friends you have, text

1:00:29

them, email them, who live in Michigan,

1:00:32

tell them to vote in the Democratic

1:00:34

primary on Tuesday, and to mark uncommitted.

1:00:40

The lifetime of November, once

1:00:42

Biden fixes what he's done, stops

1:00:46

the damage to

1:00:48

vote for Joe Biden and

1:00:50

to stop Donald Trump. But Tuesday

1:00:52

we have an immediate

1:00:54

mission, and that is

1:00:57

no more killing children, babies,

1:01:01

no more trying to push them into the desert.

1:01:07

President Biden, you

1:01:11

have to do the right thing. Please.

1:01:17

What will help you? I

1:01:23

hope you wake up on Wednesday morning to

1:01:28

a brutal awakening.

1:01:34

We're different in Michigan. It's

1:01:38

easy, or it's not easy.

1:01:45

But we have a long history. And

1:01:54

you have to listen to Michigan. This

1:02:00

is Michael Moore, this is my podcast rumble.

1:02:03

Thanks to my executive producer and editor Angela

1:02:05

Vargos, and to all of you who are

1:02:08

listening, and especially to

1:02:10

all of my friends, family, neighbors

1:02:14

in the state of Michigan. We

1:02:18

can stop the killing if we

1:02:20

send the message. Be well

1:02:22

everyone.

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