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Where are you at as an entrepreneu? Two-Brain founder
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one of Arbox's experts. Hey
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everybody, it's Chris Cooper here and today I'm talking
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about entrepreneurial maturity. And
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this is top of mind for me right now, because
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two weeks ago we certified four
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brand new millionaires, like
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real millionaires at Two-Brain, right? Not,
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oh, I did $80,000 one month
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and I'm going that's going to continue forever.
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My gym is projected to make a million
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dollars. Therefore I'm a millionaire. No , these are people
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with real net worth.
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Real gym owners with net worth of
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a million dollars or more. And we certified
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four of them in one day. On
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that same day, we got a bad review from somebody.
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It's one of only two negative reviews
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we got in the entire last year,
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but somebody reported that they hadn't
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had a great experience in our ramp-up
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program. Now the old Chris
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would have fixated on that one bad
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review, even with the new millionaires
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and the hundreds of positive reviews that we get
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every year. Even with all of the
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thank you for everything messages I get in my
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inbox and chat every single week,
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that one negative thing would have stuck
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in my brain. And I know this happens
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in your gym too. And in the past,
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that would have been all I could think about, but this time
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I thought, Hey, if these four
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people can use our systems and
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take their gym from struggling to
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being literally worth a million dollars
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or more personally, then
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the system works just fine. And
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that's when I realized, holy
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crap, I'm not ruminating on this problem.
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Something's working here. I'm maturing as
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an entrepreneur, and I've been working
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on this a lot with my coach from
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Level Up Coaching as well as the usual
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quarter million or so that I spend every
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single year on mentorship. And
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when I went back into our group
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at Two-Brain and I looked at our tinker group and
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I looked at our growth group and the
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discussions that are being had around there, even
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though some of these gyms just went right back into
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lockdown. Again, I'm
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realizing like, wow, we are producing
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some really mature entrepreneurs.
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And so if you're listening to this and you're already in Two-Brain,
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I hope that you're nodding along and smiling
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and recognizing this maturation
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in yourself. And if you're not in Two-Brain, I
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hope that you recognize some points here
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that you're doing right. And you recognize your
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own path to maturity as an entrepreneur.
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I'm also going to give you some signs that maybe
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you're not as mature as you could be
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yet. And keep in mind that entrepreneurial
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maturity is a spectrum. It's
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a process. There are some things that I'm
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going to list today that I don't do
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yet, but hopefully I'll do better as
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I become a more mature entrepreneur. And
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hopefully there's some things too, that you can say,
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you know what? This won't bother
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me as much, or I can start looking
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at this differently. So here's some signs
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that you are becoming mature as
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an entrepreneur. Number one, you
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take a long-term perspective and
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this is one of those things that you can only get with
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time. It's not something that you can read
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about, but here's a great proverb to
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illustrate. And this is from my
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book, "Founder, Farmer, Tinker, Thief." Once
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upon a time, there was an old
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farmer who had worked his crops
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for many years. One day, his
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horse runs away. And when
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they heard the news, his neighbors came to visit. Such
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bad luck. They said, sympathetically,
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you must be so sad. We'll
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see, the farmer replied the
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next morning. The horse returned bringing
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with it two other wild horses,
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how wonderful the neighbors said,
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not only did your horse return, but you received
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two more. What great fortune
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you have. We'll see,
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said the farmer. The following day,
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his son tried to ride one of the untamed
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horses, got thrown off and broke
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his leg. The neighbors again
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came to offer their sympathy for his misfortune.
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Now your son can't help you with your farming.
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They said, what terrible luck you have.
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We'll see said the old farmer, the
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following week, military officials
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came to the village to conscript young
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men into the army. Seeing that the son's
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leg was broken, they passed them by. The
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neighbors congratulated the farmer on how
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well things had turned out such great news.
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You must be so happy. The
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man smiled to himself and said, once again,
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we'll see. The lesson
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here is to stop reacting to things you can't
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control. I know that's easier said than
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done. And again, this is a lesson that really comes
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with time, but is
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a sign that you're becoming more mature as
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an entrepreneur when you start
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to think this too shall pass,
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or you start to think about like, Hey, I went through
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worse stuff than this, or Hey, I
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had a smaller example of this happen
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to me before. And that really prepared
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me for when this greater crisis
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is happening. Now, for example
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, I was able to draw on a bad
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experience that I had when my
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gym was shut down for COVID in 2020.
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When I built my gym
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out after I bought our building
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in 2016 or 2017 , we
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failed to get permission to occupy the space
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from the city and it drove me bananas.
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It was purely a bureaucratic problem,
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not like a construction
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problem. And we couldn't open
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for the first week that we were in this building. And so we
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had to run all of our classes outdoors
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at a neighborhood park, and I had
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great pictures. We had great memories. We had
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taken all these pictures of the crew
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together, outdoors, and we kind of
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came through this whole process as
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a group and everybody reminisces
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about it now. And so when my gym was shut
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down, I sort of had an indication
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that like, I could do this, even if we're only going
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to be shut down for three weeks
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or as it turned out 12 months out of 14.
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These small little setbacks
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that you have can actually prepare you
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for bigger challenges in the future. So
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the second sign that you're becoming more mature
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as an entrepreneur is related to the first,
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and this is perspective, and
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this is something that Two-Brain mentor Oskar Johed from
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Sweden said to me this morning, and that is, you
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never know what worse luck your
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bad luck will save you from. So
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you might have a little setback today, but
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that little setback is actually
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saving you from something else. So
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, you know, a couple of weeks ago,
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my gym got locked out or
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the double vaccination
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mandate came through in Ontario. And
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so the rule was that like your clients
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had to be double vaccinated to
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attend. It was black and white. There was
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no margin for error. And I thought, man, that's
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such bad luck. Some of
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my clients are not going to like this, you
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know, it could affect some of my staff. And
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then I saw the way that the mandates were
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delivered in other provinces. And it
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was the same thing, except gym
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owners were given the choice whether to open
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and impose
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the mandate themselves or not. And
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I quickly realized like, wow, those people
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are actually in a worse spot than I am,
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because if I agree with the mandate,
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OK. But if I don't agree with it,
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at least I can blame the government. Those
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poor gym owners and other provinces are stuck
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in the middle and they really can't win
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either way. So , you
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know, that perspective actually helps.
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And I think that's something that you only gain in time.
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Like, yeah, something kind of bad happened
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to me, but it might be saving me from something even
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worse, you know? And here's
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some great examples. Like this is very
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true with staff too. So
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let's say that a staff person
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does something really dumb and
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you know, like they swear at a client and the client
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quits, you know, that sucks.
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And you wind up like removing the staff person.
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That's like the third strike or, you
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know , whatever they gave you a reason to remove them.
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And that saves you from something bigger
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later on. Like maybe they go work for another
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gym and they do something even worse. Well,
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sometimes you have to realize
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like a small mistake now could
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be saving you from something worse later. So
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another sign, the third sign that you're becoming
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more mature as an entrepreneur is
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that you understand that there's a balance
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between business concepts. So
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the concepts that I'll use are the concept
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of abundance and the concept of protecting
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yourself, intellectual property. There's
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a balance that you have to maintain there. And,
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you know, we publish every single day for free. There's
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podcasts. There's blog posts. You're probably
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consuming Two-Brain stuff on one
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or more channels. Thank you for that.
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And people ask me all the time, like, how can you
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give all this stuff away for free? And I said,
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because knowledge doesn't make the difference. Knowledge
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builds trust. It demonstrates
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to you that we do know what we're doing. And
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hopefully my knowledge is enough to help you make
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enough money to pay for mentorship, which
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will make the real difference. On the other
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hand, we don't let people
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copy and paste our materials. We don't
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let people take our videos,
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replicate them, and then sell a competing service.
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There are people who say that a mindset
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of abundance means that you give everything away for
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free. And it would be easy for me to
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just say like about those people
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have never built anything were stealing or
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whatever, but the reality is you have
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to balance giving things away
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with protecting the things that
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matter most to your audience.
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So entrepreneurial maturity is realizing
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that there are no extremes, that there are balances.
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There are dichotomies like this all
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over your business that always have to be
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managed instead of solved. The
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fourth thing is that you know
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you're maturing as an entrepreneur when you
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understand that retention is more
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important than sales, that eventually
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in a local marketplace, you will run out
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of good will. You will run out of audience.
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You will run out of high value clients.
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So let's say that, you know, you're running
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a special discount offer and
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you're getting people in really quickly, but
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you're not running a great service. You're not retaining
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them. They're not converting to long-
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term care in your gym.
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And I made this mistake early on. I had this
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very low entry point
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and people would come in, they would sign up, they would do
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this like two day kind of intro
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to CrossFit on ramp . They would be
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absolutely demolished. Cause we would do like five
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workouts in two days they would go home
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and they would never come back. And 10 years
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later, I guess that was 13
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years ago now, they still
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say I did CrossFit. And it wasn't for
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me. Good entrepreneurs understand
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that you might have 70,000.
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You might have 10 million people in your city,
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but not all of those people are going
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to want your service. The
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people who want your service are a subset
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of that total and you can work
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your way through them pretty quickly
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and even more effective
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or more impactful is that a lot of those
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people know each other. So there's like
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one degree of separation between your best
11:30
clients now and your future best
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clients. And if you do a bad
11:34
job early on with people
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who are great clients, your future great
11:38
clients are going to find out about it. Conversely,
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if you do an amazing job with your best
11:43
clients right now, your future best clients are
11:45
going to find out about that too. So it's really
11:47
more important that you're great at retention
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than you are at getting people in the door, turning
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through them fast and basically burning through your
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audience. The fifth sign that you're
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becoming more mature as an entrepreneur
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is that you're flexible with your service, but you're
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committed to your audience. This was
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a blessing that COVID lockdowns actually
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gave a lot of entrepreneurs in the fitness
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industry was that their audience is
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loyal and they trust them and
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they trust their authority and their influence
12:14
more than they care about the actual service
12:16
being provided. So for example,
12:19
while a lot of gym owners in 2019
12:21
would have said, I have the best equipment.
12:23
I have the best location. I have the best
12:26
gym setup . I have the biggest brightest
12:28
cleanest, all that went away
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and the best gym owners it turned
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out to be the people who had the closest
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connection with their audience, not
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the equipment, not the program , even,
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it was the people who could connect with their audience best.
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So the method became flexible, went
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online. A lot of gyms introduced
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like accountability or yoga or whatever.
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And that didn't matter. The
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service was flexible, but
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you are entirely committed, focused
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and rigid about protecting your audience.
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The sixth sign that you're becoming more mature as
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an entrepreneur is that you understand that
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you can learn from your competition. And
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I would just kind of stay
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away from other business consultants
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in the space when Two-Brain Business was a lot smaller
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and their business was around the same size.
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I would just ignore them. Like I wouldn't want to go
13:17
anywhere near them. And you
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know, most of the time it was because they
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were so different from me that I was like, oh , I
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don't want to pay attention to that person. But
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the reality is that you can probably
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learn something from them, even
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if it's just, I don't want to be like that. You
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know, I've been in mastermind groups where that was the
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number one lesson that I took away was
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I don't want to behave like some
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of these other people in the group. And then
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I learned to refocus myself on
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groups or mentors who were
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more like the person that I wanted to be. So
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you have to learn that you can learn
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from your competition. You can also learn from
13:54
bad influences and you can learn from
13:56
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And this is number seven, I think. You have the discipline
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to finish one thing before starting another.
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And I'm getting better at this personally, but I'm still
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not immune to these amazing distractions.
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So this is actually really more
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common in people
14:40
who are at the tinker phase of entrepreneurship, because
14:43
when you're still in the founder phase, I mean,
14:46
you got your head down, you're working, you're
14:48
grinding. Your sole focus
14:50
is like, get through
14:52
today and make a dollar. And then you get into
14:54
the farmer phase and you're
14:56
busy. Like you're focused on,
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you're trying to grow your gym. You're trying to manage people.
15:01
You're trying to bring new people in. You're trying
15:03
to retain them. You're trying to build systems
15:05
so that you're not just scrambling with that for your whole life,
15:07
but like you're focused. When
15:09
you get to tinker phase, suddenly you've got
15:11
free time. You've got an enlarged
15:14
amygdala. That's constantly looking
15:16
for threats, stimulus, right?
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And , you've got some money.
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So you're attracted to all these ideas.
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Oh, I should put money in index funds. Oh,
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I should buy an Airbnb. Oh, I should be
15:28
buying crypto, should be starting another business.
15:30
Oh, I should be writing a book. And when you first
15:32
hit tinker phase, you're like, I want to do all
15:34
that by Christmas. And
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so you just try to do way too much. What
15:39
you have to do is redevelop your discipline
15:42
to finish one thing before you start
15:44
the next. And that's why we tell entrepreneurs
15:47
in the tinker phase and in our tinker program
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work in a 90 day sprint, You can do everything,
15:53
but you can't do it all at
15:55
once. So here's some
15:57
signs that you still have a way to go. You
15:59
know, and we all do. I'm not pointing
16:01
fingers just at you. I'm looking at myself in
16:03
the mirror here too . The first sign
16:05
is that you pay too much attention to what others
16:08
are doing. You're so fixated on them
16:10
that like it comes through in the
16:12
content that you publish, it comes through in your
16:14
message to your staff. You're talking about
16:16
them all the time instead of talking about your own
16:18
vision in your own future. The
16:20
second sign that you still have a ways to go
16:23
is you're trying to impress the wrong
16:25
people. So you're making Facebook posts, but
16:27
they're targeted at other gym owners or
16:30
, you know, you're so distracted
16:32
by what another gym owner said
16:34
in a Facebook group that you're
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not paying attention to the client that's standing right
16:39
in front of you or , you
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know, you're so like worried about
16:43
what other people are doing in your town
16:46
that you're not focused on like doing
16:48
the best thing for your client. Here's
16:50
a great example. When I first opened
16:52
my gym, I said to my partners, like I'm going
16:54
to take every client from that gym down the street,
16:57
I'm going to shut them down. I'm going to put them out of business. All
16:59
their clients are going to come here. That was the
17:01
wrong approach to take. But every
17:03
morning at 4:30 AM, I
17:05
would be on the second story of our gym
17:07
, looking out the window, like pressing my cheek
17:10
against the glass, kind of looking down
17:12
the street to make sure that I was open first.
17:14
Well, guess what? That didn't matter.
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But I was so focused on them. I
17:19
could have been focused on making a better client
17:21
experience. You know, instead of looking out the window,
17:23
I could have been cleaning showers or something.
17:26
The third way that you know that you still have a long
17:28
ways to go, as do I, is
17:30
you still chase novelty. So you
17:33
see a new idea somewhere and
17:35
you totally like forget the
17:37
current plan that you're on. And you chase that
17:39
new idea. You know , Clubhouse,
17:42
I think was a great example of this. Back in January,
17:44
February. Gym owners had a marketing
17:46
plan. They were doing affinity marketing
17:48
in their reviews. They were getting referrals.
17:51
They were upgrading their offer. They were selling
17:53
specialty programs. They were setting up a Facebook
17:56
funnel and suddenly Clubhouse.
17:58
And now they're like two and a half hours a day listening
18:00
to this thing instead of growing their business.
18:03
And , so you really need to like, not
18:05
be distracted by novelty. Believe me, that's
18:07
a very tough one. The fourth sign
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that you still have a ways to go is you make
18:13
your business a political platform. Now I don't
18:15
want to make this podcast my political platform.
18:17
So I'm not going to go too deep into this, but you
18:20
need to understand that if you want to change people's
18:22
lives, the best thing that you
18:24
can do is give them a space that is
18:26
free from politics and
18:29
all the noise that they're hearing from the media
18:31
around them. The other thing that you need
18:33
to do is stay open for 30 years, right?
18:35
Like, yes, you can wave a political
18:37
flag one time and you can,
18:40
you know, totally stand up
18:42
and shut out your beliefs on
18:44
Facebook, knowing that you'll lose half your
18:46
clients, you know , good for you. I guess
18:49
if that's what you want to do, but
18:51
you gotta know, like you're
18:53
harming your ability long term to
18:55
serve people. Probably. I
18:57
don't want to get any deeper than that, but I will say this,
19:00
I am politically active. None of my clients
19:02
know how politically active
19:04
I am or who I support or how
19:06
I'm doing it. And
19:09
that's OK because you know that's not
19:11
what I'm trying to do here. Finally. The
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fifth sign that you still have a ways to go in your entrepreneurial
19:16
maturity is you're still suspicious of
19:18
success. So you see somebody who's more
19:21
successful than you, and
19:23
maybe it's your jealousy, but instead
19:25
of just a healthy skepticism,
19:28
you're pessimistic about their success. You
19:30
know, they must have stolen something
19:32
from somebody else. They must have cheated
19:35
somebody. They must have lied to become
19:37
successful. And this sucks
19:39
because the common public sees entrepreneurs
19:41
this way. If the entrepreneur is successful,
19:44
they did it on somebody else's back. Right.
19:46
Unfortunately that's like just
19:48
a product of our education system, but even
19:51
entrepreneurs aren't immune, we see
19:53
somebody like Grant Cardone and we're like,
19:55
wow, I don't want to be a billionaire because
19:57
being a billionaire means I have to be like that
20:00
or somebody else. Right? Like , you
20:02
know, Gary Vaynerchuk, I respect the guy.
20:05
I'm not his biggest fan. I don't want to be like
20:07
Gary V, guess what? He doesn't care. Right.
20:10
But if that's the only way to become
20:12
a billionaire, I don't want to do that.
20:15
So while it's good
20:17
to like maintain a healthy skepticism
20:19
about people who tell you how successful
20:21
they are. Definitely. You
20:23
also want to make sure that it's not just like
20:25
jealousy and that your
20:28
own suspicion of them is not
20:30
stopping you from being successful.
20:32
There's always a way to do this, right? There's
20:35
always a way to become successful
20:37
by practicing help first, by being
20:40
like a servant leader by
20:43
being quiet instead of outspoken,
20:45
by building your business, instead of tearing
20:47
somebody else's down, by being
20:49
tactful and polite, instead
20:52
of being a firebrand, by
20:55
going with the culture, instead of being counter-culture
20:58
, all those things are OK, you can still be
21:00
successful. It's hard to see
21:02
it when you're not a mature entrepreneur yet.
21:05
So while I do advocate
21:07
like some skepticism, you know, you should
21:09
always question authority. You
21:11
should always question success. You
21:13
should do that from a position of what can I
21:15
learn from this instead of how can I tear
21:17
this person down? Or why can I disqualify
21:20
this person's success? And
21:22
that's a great sign that you're maturing as an entrepreneur,
21:25
no matter what happens in your life,
21:27
you can learn from it. And that's a sign of maturity
21:30
too . The great thing is that real
21:33
maturity only comes from making mistakes
21:35
and spending time. That's something that I
21:37
know we're all doing. And so, as
21:39
we mature , we're all gonna
21:41
be more successful.
21:42
That was
21:44
Chris Cooper on Two-Brain Radio. Remember
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