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I am a generous person. So I shall pay my
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coaches more. However will I
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do it? I shall review seniority
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lists and then use my abacus to calculate
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an appropriate increase. And then I shall
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retire to the drawing room to read the new book by the
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young author, Ernest Hemingway. Today
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on Two-Brain Radio, Chris Cooper is here with
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modern ways to pay your coaches more. Get
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out of the past and join the clever entrepreneurs
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who are paying staff members more by growing
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their businesses.
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We know that getting clients results isn't
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enough to make a great business or a
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great career, but it is the foundation.
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If you're not getting your clients results, none
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of the other stuff matters. Your marketing plan,
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your operations plan, your retention plan, your
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systems, how much you care about the clients.
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You need to get them results. What does
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it take to get a client results? Long-term
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behavior change, short-term habit
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change. It means learning skills
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like motivational interviewing, peer-to-peer programming.
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It means focusing on things
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like adherence and retention instead of novelty.
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And I built twobraincoaching.com with
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my partner, Josh Martin, to teach
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coaches how to do this. More than ever
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before it is critical to get results
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for your clients. You need
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to charge a premium fee. You need
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to provide high value to warrant that
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fee. And what is most valuable
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to the client? What do they care about
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the most? The results on the goal
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that they choose. Twobraincoaching.com has programs
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set up to help your
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clients achieve those goals. We will
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train you and your coaches to deliver
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personal training, group training, online training, nutrition
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coaching, and coming soon, mindset
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coaching, in a way that's
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simple for you to adopt, it's legal
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everywhere. And it's super effective.
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These courses were built by
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experts with years of experience getting
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clients results. Twobraincoaching.com is a
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labor of love for
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me, and I know you're going to love
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it too. I know
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you. You are generous.
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You put other people ahead of yourself.
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Your clients, your family,
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and even the people who are paid to put you
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first, your coaches. Now
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it's not wrong to put other people first. Your
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team is critically important to your gym's success,
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but it is wrong to
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undermine the gym's stability or
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sacrifice your family's income
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by paying your coaches too much
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or following the wrong strategy. Coaches
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and your other staff can have a great career in your gym,
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especially when the relationship is good for everyone.
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And today, I'm going to tell you how
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to give your staff a raise. The
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first principle here that we need to understand
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is that you earn more money by
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creating more value for
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more people. Your staff can
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do the same. And today
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I'm going to walk you through the exact path
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to do this and why salaries and bonuses aren't
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the best ways to create opportunities
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for your staff, because the best way to create
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opportunities for your staff is to allow them to
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grow the pie, not to divide
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it up a different way, or to allow them to take
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the biggest slice. OK?
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So before we get into this, I don't want you
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to assume that every great coach is a full-time
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coach. A great coach can work part
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time, and I've got a link in the show notes
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to a blog post I wrote called gym management:
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the case for part-time coaches. But
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whatever they choose, full-time part-time, here
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are the steps to building the careers that they
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want. Step one:
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At your quarterly career roadmap meeting,
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of course you're doing those, right? You can ask
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your coach, what do you want now? Ask
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the coach to tell you about his or her perfect day.
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Ask how your gym can support that perfect day.
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Ask where he or she would like to be in six
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months. And we teach people how to
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do career roadmap meetings in our mentorship
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program. But basically a career roadmap
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meeting is a 30 minute sit down with a coach
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where you do an evaluation to measure where
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they're starting from. You give them some goals
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to accomplish in their career. And
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then you work backward on the math to help them
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achieve those goals. You assign different
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roles and tasks based on, you
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know , what they want to achieve, how much they want to work
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and what their target income is. And
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then you mentor them to achieve those goals. That's
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step one. Step two is
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you determine exactly how much the coach needs
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to earn those, the
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money that will pay for those goals. So
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you can use tools like the happiness index. If
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you want to approximate. Or
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you can use that coach's personal budget if you
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really want to get specific. And
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then you should calculate a goal number and that's step
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two. Step three is
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to use our career roadmap tool
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or to build your own spreadsheet, to
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work backward from that number. And then
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you assign a dollar value to the different roles
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in your gym. This much for group classes, this
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much for personal training, this much
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for cleaning, this much for admin work. And
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then you create opportunities to do
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those things for your coaches.
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So you can create opportunities to do
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personal training or nutrition
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coaching, or other specialty programs.
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And I lay these all out in our free guide
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entrepreneurialism one-on-one , which
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you can download if you go to the show notes
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for today and just click the download button.
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Step four is to determine
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the starting position. So what will
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the coach need to learn before they can really
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capitalize on the plan that you've just built for
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them? Will they need to take a super
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new certification before
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they start their kid's program, for example, or
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will they need to take the Two-Brain Coaching
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first degree program before they can work one-on-one
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with clients? Are they brand new, et cetera. Step
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five is help them launch whatever
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their growth program is. You got to
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mentor them through it. And you've got to perform
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regular reviews to make sure that they're on track.
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You have to have an evaluation process. And
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then step six is, you know , when they
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get there, give them the opportunity
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to open their own business under
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your brand. So after you've taught
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a coach how to be an entrepreneur , you
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can help him or her step outside
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your protective umbrella and open their own
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gym with you as a partner and mentor. And
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there's a link to a blog article called go with
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them. So here's the path to a
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solid career. Step one through five.
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And then step six is if they want to open
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up their own gym. Step one, sit
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down with them and say, what do you want now. Step
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two, determine how much they need to earn
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to make that dream a reality. Step
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three, create opportunities using
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a career roadmap tool, step
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four, determine their starting position. Step
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five, measure their progress regularly
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and mentor them on it. And then step six,
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for some coaches, give them a chance
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to open a business under your brand. But
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the key to all of this is asking your coaches,
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what do you want now? Some coaches
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might want more money. Some might want
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more opportunities , somewhat consistency
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and some are willing to take risk in exchange
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for equity, but nobody wants
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the same thing forever. So
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the best way to help your coaches build careers
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is to mentor them to success. The
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wrong way is to pay them bonuses
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based on metrics they can't control
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or to pay them based on like ideas
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out of the 1940s, like seniority.
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According to data in our state of the industry guide,
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most gym owners aren't profitable enough to give
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their staff members raises. The average
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coach income in our state of the industry last year
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was $21 per class coached.
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That's not enough, but the businesses
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can't afford to pay them more. So the best
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way for coaches to earn more is
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to help grow the business. Instead of
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giving them a largest share of the pie and going
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hungry yourself, just grow the pie.
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So here's how to pay more. So
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start with what can you afford to pay per
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class? So you add up all
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of your revenue from all of your groups or
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your classes, and you multiply that
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by 44%. This is the rule
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of four ninths. And that's your total
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class budget for staff. Think of that as like
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your salary cap. OK? That's
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how much you can afford to pay all the
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coaches to coach your classes. Now
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divide that budget across
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all of the classes that you offer.
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It's Chris Cooper here.
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Your gym's programming won't attract
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new clients, but it can help
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you keep your clients longer. Good
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programming includes benchmarks, novelty,
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skills, progressions, leaderboards, you know all
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that stuff. But great programming
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contains something more: a link
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between each client's fitness goals
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and the workout of the day. Your coaches
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need to tell your clients more than what
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they're doing every day. They need to explain
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why they're doing it. Gym's
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whose coaches could explain the why connection
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had a 25% better retention rate during
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lockdowns. Imagine how that translates
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into better retention when things are
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back to normal. Now, I want to solve this
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problem for gym owners. Programming is
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the service you deliver to your clients. So
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I partnered with Brooks DiFiore, who had
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one of the highest adherence rates in
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the world for his group classes at
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his gym to build twobrainprogramming.com. We built this for
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Two-Brain gyms and we give them free access
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in our mentorship program. But I'm now making this
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available to the public. Programming
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proven to improve retention and cashflow in
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your gym. Visit Two-Brain programming.com to get it. So let's say that you're taking
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in a thousand dollars a week, you have a budget
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of $444 and 44
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cents to pay coaches to run those classes.
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Now you've got to divide that budget evenly across
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all classes, because each
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coach is teaching the same programming
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and following the same plan, they
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should all be paid the same amount for classes.
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They're delivering an identical service at 6:00
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PM and at 6:00 AM. If
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the resulting per class rate is too low,
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then you have three choices. Number one,
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raise the price of your group training classes,
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which will expand the 44% budget
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without changing the ratio and allow you to pay
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people more per class. Number
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two , put more people into the classes or
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number three, deliver fewer classes. So
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which one of those three options should you choose?
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Well, you can go back to our first rule. You make
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more money by creating more value. So
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if you deliver far more value than
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you charge for group training, raise your
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rates. The average group training
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rate, according to our state of the industry data is
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about $154 per
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month. You should be much higher than
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that. The September 2021
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leaderboard for average revenue per member
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per gym showed that some gyms
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are actually making just over $400
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per member per month. You can certainly go
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up from where you are now. Second,
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if adding more people to a class will increase
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its value, then focus on marketing.
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If you're running a quote unquote class
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for two people, you need to add more
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people to that class. What's the ideal
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number per class? Seven people,
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minimum, 13 people maximum. At
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seven people, retention
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and adherence go up because you've got enough
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friends in your class to hold you accountable. But
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at 13, that number starts to
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go down again because you've got so many people that
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nobody misses the one who doesn't show up. OK.
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Third, if you find yourself delivering one-on-one
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coaching at group class rates, just
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kill that class. So if you're giving somebody
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personal training at 6:00 AM, then
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you know you need to remove that class. And there's
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a strategy for doing that too. But
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raising your rates, increasing your value,
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that increases your salary cap. Adding
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more clients increases your salary
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cap. Delivering fewer classes,
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spreads out your available spend
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better. It's not the long-term solution,
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but if keeping coaches is your priority,
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it might be the best solution. Right now. You might
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have to take a small step back, run
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one fewer class per day before you can
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take the big leap forward because you're just not ready
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to run eight classes yet. Now
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the key here is to understand your numbers
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and understand your salary cap. When
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people say, how do I pay my coaches
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more? I say, make more money
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in the gym. The ratios don't
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change. And when people attack
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or criticize the four ninths model, it's simply because
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they just don't understand the math. You
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don't need to give people a larger share of the
11:57
pie. You don't need to starve yourself and your family.
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What you need to do is to make the pie bigger
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and your coaches can help you do that through
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a process that we call intrapreneurialism,
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they can grow the pie for everybody. They
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can earn themselves a raise and that's
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how you give them more and create more value in
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their lives. Now, what
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about paying different coaches different
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amounts? So if you've got a group
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class and it's running the same programming
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and you're following the same class structure, and
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you've got two different coaches coaching it, those coaches
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should be paid the same amount because
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even if one coach is more experienced
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or you know, technically better,
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or they've got 50 certs, that will not
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change the value that the client receives
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from that class. However,
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if you've got a coach who is
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very proficient, you know, level three
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USAW certified, then
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they should be running a weightlifting
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class for which you charge more
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because you're adding more value to the clients
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and they should be making a percentage of
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that number. And that's how they
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make more money. Whenever you're
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adding value to the clients,
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you can give the coaches a rais
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and the more valuable the service that you offer, the more
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the coaches get paid for delivering that
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service. If you've got two coaches
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doing personal training, should
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they have different rates depending on their experience?
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Only if one client is paying more
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than the other. And that's why we use a ratio
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to figure out how much the coach should be paid
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instead of prescribing an actual dollar
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value or saying here's a hierarchy
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of raises that you get with experience. The
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truth is that experience alone does
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not necessarily increase client value.
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And it certainly will not make
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one client pay more than another client.
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However, quality, value.
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And if your knowledge adds value
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to the client, then the client should be paying more.
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I'll give you an example of where a lot of gyms get this
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wrong. Let's say that you
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own a CrossFit gym. And you've got some people
13:57
who are competitors. And those
13:59
people are like, oh, we're going to follow super-duper
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secret squirrel programming. We only
14:04
want open gym access. And
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because these people are like the best
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at CrossFit in your gym, you're tempted
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to let them come in, coach themselves,
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pay somebody else for programming and
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only charge them for open gym. So they wind up
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taking up the most of your time and space,
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but paying the least for it. The reality
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is that the people who wants to
14:25
compete need more coaching than anybody
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else. Not less. They need more of
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your time and attention and individual
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focus than anybody else, not less.
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And so they should be paying more than anybody
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else. Not less. They
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should not be paying for the minimal amount
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of service. They should be paying for the maximum amount
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of coaching if they really want to progress in
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their sport. And if they're not willing to pay
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you for that, then they should be going
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to, you know , whoever they are willing
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to pay for it. And that's where
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maybe one coach earns more than
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another. When the client is paying more for
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their expertise. But when a client is paying
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two coaches the same amount, those coaches
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should be paid the same amount, because
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that is the value that they're delivering to
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their clients.
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