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Welcome back to the Ruthless Variety

0:52

Program, fellas. That was Secretary Mayorkas

0:56

long before he was impeached

0:59

by the House of Representatives. Impeached

1:02

probably for something like that.

1:04

Yeah. Right? Turns

1:07

out it wasn't too secure. No, it turns out the

1:09

security was a little bit more in flux than he'd

1:11

let on. Hey, he just goofed. You

1:13

know? Unbelievable.

1:17

I mean, this guy, you know what's so

1:19

funny to me about this entire story? I

1:21

mean, obviously they failed to

1:23

impeach him by one vote last week and

1:25

there was nothing but stories about the

1:28

disaster that that was and whatnot. And

1:31

then they impeached him this week and it felt kind

1:34

of like an also ran type story,

1:36

like first time in 130 years

1:38

that that's happened. But

1:40

it's all process-based. It's

1:43

all like, well, this happened and then this happened and here

1:46

are the arguments. It's like nobody's

1:48

actually taken the time from a media perspective

1:50

to be like, it's interesting that

1:52

they've taken the unprecedented act

1:55

of impeaching somebody. Maybe

1:57

we should examine in greater detail why it is that

1:59

he's here. was impeached. Right? I

2:02

mean, there's plenty of coverage on

2:04

the crisis at the border at this point. That's

2:06

not my objection. His culpability in

2:08

all of that, it's like, how

2:11

do you ignore it? And there's just

2:13

no interest by the press. I'm glad you raised

2:15

this because it is one of the most infuriating

2:17

aspects of the whole thing. You

2:19

know that if Mayorkas was a

2:21

Republican, it would be detailed stories,

2:23

magazine pieces, features about what he

2:25

didn't do and what's happening because

2:28

of it. It reminds me

2:30

a little bit of like, you remember that Bush

2:32

FEMA director back in the day, Brownie?

2:34

Yeah, heck of a job. Yeah.

2:38

Where he was presiding over

2:40

Katrina, which is like a

2:42

generational hurricane, right? And

2:45

obviously there were problems going on,

2:47

but everybody had a lens

2:50

of mismanagement. They couldn't possibly have

2:52

been an incredibly

2:55

specific disaster that hit

2:57

at the specifically purposeful,

3:00

terrible spot to hit.

3:03

It had to be somebody's fault for the whole

3:05

thing and it all became Brownie's fault. Yeah. It

3:08

sounded like he built the levees, right? Right. This

3:10

guy showed up six months earlier, like I pop

3:12

up tents and serve hot meals. Yeah. But

3:14

if you would have read the story, if you would

3:17

have read the stories, you would have thought he actually

3:19

smoothed the concrete on every single lens. Well, I guess

3:21

that's my point. My point is that the coverage of

3:23

that situation, granted, there's a lot of you listening that

3:25

don't remember all of that. I remember it in real

3:27

time very vividly, but

3:30

the stories were all about what

3:32

this guy could have done

3:34

differently and how it would

3:36

have prevented the disaster. We

3:39

have a disaster that

3:41

many would argue is many,

3:44

many exponentially times more

3:46

significant for the country than

3:48

that was. Because it's not a natural disaster. It's

3:50

a disaster that's unfolding before our eyes every single

3:52

day and has for years. It's a man-made disaster.

3:54

For years. We've hit it. They've

3:58

done it deliberate. Deliberate. As

4:00

we say. they your and the

4:02

writing program and he they're not

4:04

examining that yeah. There. Are

4:06

examining. The. Process by which sleaze to

4:08

shown up at like he was on Sunday

4:10

shows. Imagine. It's first Guy

4:12

hundred thirty years to be impeached. As.

4:15

A sitting secretary and is to and

4:17

Sunday shows like not there and of

4:19

even afraid about my router Aromatics have

4:21

you not? In fact top line talking

4:23

point. Joe Biden is vibrant so Christmas

4:26

effects after a bit of these are

4:28

you concerned about his own eyes is

4:30

is a great point. You know

4:32

it says it's really remarkable feel

4:34

like you think at some point.

4:37

Everybody. Would come to the conclusion that

4:39

perhaps this guy did something wrong here

4:42

and maybe we that's worth examining. No,

4:44

No. It's a

4:46

crazy republican caucus that the

4:49

can't shoot straight. As.

4:51

Evidenced by their failure. Where

4:53

the week before to impeach him and now

4:55

they did it. And so we want

4:57

newcomers. Isis and I

5:00

I think that's the right take

5:02

I think. also a it bears

5:04

kind of focusing in on I

5:06

think all the things he did

5:08

or not. Out. Of.

5:11

Being. Incompetent. I think it's if you

5:13

logically. This. Is this is where

5:15

he said what during confirmation? Ah I

5:17

remember he was facing some challenges because

5:20

he along with so many members as

5:22

ministration had worked for in concert with

5:24

was the dark money groups Jen Psaki.

5:26

Another prime example from so much of

5:29

this administration was put place by the

5:31

groups that got by an elected and

5:33

to push their ideology and are messy

5:35

know. Just like is that tv show. You

5:38

know, this guy turned of the border

5:40

into absolute chaos because it illogical, you

5:42

know, black of lovely dark money donors

5:44

like. It's unbelievable how much of this

5:47

administration is just acting on behalf of

5:49

their paymasters. Some it's just so sick,

5:51

it's disgusting. And those are real problems

5:53

that we ought to be talking about

5:55

earnestly. But we're get. we've got a

5:58

good show for your we're like. And

6:00

things up. Yeah, I just gonna be

6:02

all negativity. We got a good shot.

6:04

Tony Gonzalez from the great That a

6:06

Texas Texas twenty Three He's the Man

6:08

on the Border is the guy whose

6:10

district is Eagle Pass and with so

6:13

many places of even talking about over

6:15

the last you know now feels what

6:17

three and a half years. It's the

6:19

entire by demonstration whatever that is he's

6:21

the guy. Who. I

6:23

think we're almost more than any

6:25

feels the direct impact. Of

6:28

this immigration crisis, he also happens to

6:30

be remarkable norton remarkably normal human being

6:32

moon I'd somebody you'd choose to go

6:34

have a cocktail with, which by the

6:36

way, furnished us with some. Terrific

6:40

stuff here which we owe entering a long

6:42

way or on the Friday perhaps will have

6:44

that Eric online. Very easy to bribe for

6:46

victory. We are very very love were very

6:49

easy but you're gonna love an interview and

6:51

I think you're probably going to learn a

6:53

lot about it. Ah, wouldn't play get. Play

6:57

some king of the hell causes.

6:59

Thursday was right as one does.

7:01

oh Yoda Friday. And there. Is

7:03

the including some pop tart news which is very

7:06

sad. To

7:08

switch is a me and around with some stuff

7:11

so I want us to keep attacking. Is very

7:13

concerned about scaring. Suggests

7:15

You know? I guess we can just jump into

7:17

this for a minute. But. This is

7:19

Wild. Yeah. Like I have,

7:21

he has. Ah, Member.

7:24

Of Congress on the I Think is

7:26

Ahead of Fear and Dead and Chairman

7:28

of The House Select. An

7:30

old as many while they're silver

7:32

imminent danger thread that the president

7:34

should discuss the country and then

7:36

it instantly it takes off like

7:38

what the how could this be

7:40

was very impressive and the don't

7:43

see that a lot like typically

7:45

intelligence committees and leaders within Congress

7:47

which they collect a big for

7:49

the big four are the people

7:51

get real time briefings that the

7:53

administration gets on. Threats.

7:56

Intel that's important for this

7:58

national security. Big For

8:00

is basically just think about the

8:03

republican democrat and leaders on both

8:05

sides and ended the eight is

8:07

a expand that out into the

8:10

Intelligence committees on both sides and

8:12

once that crew has been briefed

8:15

on something typically you don't hear

8:17

a lot about it. If

8:20

it's something that's very significant, The

8:23

President addresses it from the oval. We all

8:25

know if that doesn't happen between the hours

8:28

of one pm and three Pm, the chances

8:30

of that are very slim with this administration.

8:33

So. Perhaps I don't know what he's thinking

8:35

by airing miss out on Twitter mean basically

8:37

Turner. Said. There's.

8:40

A grave national security threat Any urged

8:42

the by administration to declassify pieces of

8:44

it so we can all see and

8:47

hear about. You know, I

8:49

don't get that. are. You. Don't

8:51

see that very often so it of

8:53

again everybody's mind races than what it

8:55

possibly be united far be it for

8:57

me to speculate what that would be

8:59

but that's concerning and then he had

9:01

speaker John to come out say this

9:04

is not like. An imminent.

9:06

Threat. To the like united States are

9:08

you graduate from all the was like what

9:11

the hell of other problems Might Yards has

9:13

got on his plate. Like all the said

9:15

he's gotta charities like every thread me like

9:17

ah jeez you know he's galloway try to

9:20

warm that over but my understanding is this

9:22

theory is is the phone. They

9:25

did the briefings with the big four.

9:27

They've got a briefing scheduled with Turner

9:29

and the intel guys tomorrow. Look,

9:33

I don't have a lot of. Confidence in the

9:35

by administration any. Form or

9:37

facet, but I think there's plenty

9:40

of communication going on. Question is,

9:42

what is it. And

9:44

whether or not that something the American

9:46

people immediately as to be us remember

9:48

that are reason why don't declassify stuff

9:50

here Lotteries It's because there are some

9:53

things that are. Well.

9:55

as we found out during

9:57

the bush administration declassifying things

10:00

that may not be true can

10:02

be problematic. Can be problematic.

10:04

Well, hopefully by the time this airs, we

10:07

know more. Yeah. Because I

10:09

want enough. I bet we won't. I bet we

10:11

won't. I mean, like, again, if this is a

10:13

decision that needs to come down to the Biden

10:15

administration providing transparency to the American people, I'd

10:18

bet against that one, like every time. Yeah. Yeah,

10:21

I'd bet against that piece of it, but I don't know

10:23

that I would bet against members

10:26

that have been briefed that

10:28

find pieces of this

10:31

that they can safely discuss.

10:34

Yeah, we'll see. I mean, these are things that obviously

10:36

need to be taken seriously, but to a point that

10:38

was made earlier, the House has not canceled votes for

10:40

today. So

10:44

maybe there's not a nuclear weapon pointed

10:46

at the Capitol. Perhaps. Perhaps

10:49

not. So

10:51

look, the top story

10:53

coming out of the

10:55

politics side of things this week

10:59

was the special elections. You'll

11:02

recall the reason for the

11:05

marquee event here, which was

11:07

a New York special election, was

11:10

George Santos and

11:13

his eviction. From

11:15

the House of Representatives, for a whole

11:17

wide variety of issues. When

11:19

Smoggin pointed out, fair

11:23

to ask whether or not that was

11:26

ultimately a wise decision. It seems like

11:28

an absolute terrible decision now, more than

11:30

ever. Until he's convicted

11:32

of a crime, I mean,

11:37

this shows the absolute idiocy

11:40

of that move. When you have Menendez

11:43

from New Jersey, the senator, Democrat

11:46

senator from New Jersey, who

11:48

has essentially been just working for

11:50

foreign governments, news has come

11:52

out that his wife's engagement ring was a

11:55

bribe. It is actually comical how bad it

11:57

was. This has been going on for 20

11:59

years. with Bob Menendez. It started

12:01

out with the alleged Dominican

12:03

prostitutes. And then it moved into

12:06

money laundering

12:08

weird stuff that he ultimately

12:10

was indicted and then acquitted

12:12

of in New Jersey. Now

12:14

it's moved into a whole

12:18

different level where he had stolen

12:20

gold bars in his

12:22

house. What is it? Yes,

12:24

because he was like, well, you can't trace

12:27

the transaction if I'm paying gold bars. And

12:31

then he was googling how much is

12:33

a gold bar worth? Yeah. Boomer crime.

12:35

And that guy is currently a United

12:37

States senator. Bingo. And that's the thing.

12:40

Until he is voted out, until

12:43

someone who's taking gold bars from foreign

12:45

governments, his wife's wedding ring is

12:47

a bribe. And did you see

12:50

Republicans say, oh, this is beyond the pale.

12:52

Well, I can't believe this. The

12:54

movements act immediately to get this person

12:56

out of this august body. Here's the

12:58

thing. No, you don't get that. You don't get that.

13:01

We'll do it to our own though. I

13:03

saw on the House floor, Representative Max Miller

13:05

of Ohio alleged that George Santos had defrauded

13:08

himself and his mother. He stole money from

13:10

the Senate. On the police report,

13:12

press charges, go to trial. Okay.

13:14

I mean, I hear you. It's just, I

13:17

think like that just sort of embraces the

13:19

politics of nihilism that's driven our country into the ditch

13:21

where we find ourselves. Well, I think it's pretty clear

13:23

that the other side is willing to do whatever it

13:25

takes to take control. Oh,

13:28

yeah. No, I don't deny that they're evil. So

13:30

I don't be any potent unilaterally disarming, which is

13:32

exactly what happened here. To be evil too. To

13:35

it? 100%. Well,

13:37

this is the thing is until you make the

13:39

situation uncountable for the other side. I

13:41

hear you. They don't stop. I hear you. And there's, I mean,

13:43

look, they're laughing. They've got Menendez there for all

13:46

the votes they need. He's voting. Menendez is

13:48

voting still. Is it a process for

13:50

removing someone from the United States Senate? Is it similar to the

13:52

House? No, it's a very different

13:54

situation. It's a very different situation. I mean,

13:56

they're similar in some ways, but

13:58

there's more of a process. I mean,

14:00

what happens is when somebody is

14:03

indicted, they are

14:05

removed from the committees, if they

14:07

have a chairmanship or something they're removed. And

14:09

that's happened with Menendez. But

14:13

a conviction is when you get

14:16

potential. More often than

14:18

not, what happens is you ultimately get a

14:20

resignation. You

14:23

can think of recent examples of things

14:25

like Al Franken, right? Yeah.

14:27

Torres-Selly back in the day. You

14:30

have to have a little bit of class and dignity

14:32

and then see yourself out. Like a house is more

14:34

like a bar, like a bouncer can just throw you

14:36

out. Yeah, that's exactly right. But

14:38

I mean, I think that's the thing is,

14:41

now this is a whole new

14:43

ballgame in the sense that look at all the

14:45

things that the House committee has unearthed

14:47

on Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. During

14:50

an election, we were told this is all fake

14:52

news, this is Russian disinformation. And we've all now

14:54

been shown complete... We've seen

14:56

Treasury documents, the suspicious

14:58

activity reports of all this money from China getting

15:00

wired over to the Bidens. You know what I still...

15:03

He's not resigned. You know what I saw, Smug? You'll

15:06

love this and it's related

15:08

is the number one reporter

15:12

who was covering the Hunter

15:14

Biden laptop who put out

15:16

that story that said... Natasha

15:18

Bertrand? Yeah. She said that

15:21

intelligence officials believe Hunter

15:23

Biden's laptop is Russian

15:25

disinformation. She just got

15:27

promoted by CNN. Her

15:30

reward for being historically wrong

15:32

at a critical moment in our democracy is more

15:35

money. Meanwhile, Catherine Herridge, the other

15:37

side of that coin, who's like one of

15:39

the preeminent intelligence and military reporters... Like an

15:41

actual, powerless time. One of the few left.

15:44

Was fired from CBS this week. Yeah,

15:47

it's just awful. Partisanship. Partisanship

15:49

in the supposedly nonpartisan news outlets

15:51

is getting worse and worse and

15:53

worse. And Josh mentioned Bob Torricelli.

15:56

You remember this guy was a New Jersey

15:58

senator who was also... got caught

16:00

on corruption similar to what Bob

16:02

Menendez is doing. Oh

16:05

wow, you didn't expect that in New Jersey, right? Similar to what Bob

16:07

Menendez is doing. At Torricelli? In New Jersey? Oh, Jesus.

16:10

No, I didn't think that. I forgot some story. He's

16:12

just in waste management. The difference

16:14

with Torricelli is that the media like

16:16

nailed him to the wall and they

16:19

didn't let up. It was a different era. It

16:22

was a different era where they were left of

16:24

center but they still like hit each party equally

16:27

and like it's getting worse and worse. At this Smug's

16:29

point, you know what ultimately happened there? He

16:31

was in the down the stretch of his

16:34

own reelection race and New

16:36

Jersey Democrats changed the rules so they

16:38

could replace him on the ballot with

16:40

former Senator Frank Lautenberg. They took him

16:42

off with three weeks to go, put

16:44

Lautenberg in. He beat the Republican who

16:46

had been leading Torricelli up to that

16:48

point. Now

16:50

there's a train station named after Frank Lautenberg. That's

16:53

my take. It was a

16:55

terrible move. Republicans

17:00

are always happy to eat their own while

17:02

Dan's always circle the wagon. That's the lesson you take away

17:04

from this one. That's

17:06

not the only thing. They also ran

17:09

Kevin McCarthy out of Congress. That's

17:13

the other reason why we're now at a one

17:15

seat majority is that that sucker

17:17

is also open and there will be a

17:19

special. I hope we win it,

17:21

but it is what it is. Also shows you

17:23

how important candidate recruitment is. Why

17:27

in the world is somebody like George

17:29

Santos the Republican standard bearer for that

17:31

district anyway? I mean because he won. He

17:34

won. Well, I know it's because he won. He won.

17:36

I know it's because he won, but we

17:38

have to build our party and put competent

17:41

people in these positions so that we aren't in

17:43

this situation. I won't win. That's all

17:45

that matters. I'm very clear that what this state

17:47

might would settle for in terms

17:49

of your elected representative. But in

17:51

terms of what happened in New York, Democrat

17:54

Tom Swazee won the New York

17:56

special election according to NBC News.

17:59

He's heading back to Congress after

18:01

he won the special election in

18:03

New York's 3rd district to replace

18:05

George Santos. Was his victory Tuesday

18:08

over Republican Maisie Pillip. Cuts

18:11

for Republicans already raised their thin house majority

18:14

by one seat, making legislating even

18:16

more difficult going forward. It can provide a guide

18:18

for, this is the most important part that I

18:20

think is sort of interesting. It

18:22

could provide a guide for Democrats

18:25

competing in similar competitive districts this

18:27

fall, especially when it comes to

18:29

navigating their political vulnerability on immigration

18:31

and border security. So

18:34

what Democrats have done a pretty good job of is

18:37

providing some latitude for

18:39

Democrats to campaign with

18:43

the image of their district in mind. They

18:46

don't have to, the total fealty to like one thing

18:48

is never that

18:51

important to them because they figure once they get them into Congress

18:53

they all vote the same way anyway, which they do. So

18:56

how they campaign is totally up to them. Republicans,

18:58

anytime somebody steps out of line at

19:00

all, they just get dive bombed by

19:03

the online right. Like George Santos, do

19:05

this exactly what I'm saying. Any

19:08

way you can. You just vote

19:10

with the party anyways. I mean this guy

19:13

basically campaigned as like a border hawk. Totally

19:17

outside of the step of where Democrats are and

19:19

that's what got him there. Now,

19:22

it also, there were some mechanical issues

19:24

that I think portend a bigger issue

19:27

that we've talked about a lot of

19:29

the variety program, which is Democrats are

19:31

very good at banking early votes, vote

19:34

by mail, things like that. And it turns

19:36

out what happened Tuesday in New

19:38

York. Oh, it's no storm. Yeah.

19:41

It's when you count only on election

19:43

day turnout as a Republican party, it's

19:46

difficult to win elections when Democrats are

19:48

banking. I think I saw they banked,

19:51

it was like 86 or 83 or

19:53

whatever, was the

19:55

breakdown of absentee in early. That

19:57

is dramatic. It's a tough thing to overcome. saw

20:00

some innovative things, I must say,

20:02

in this election. CLF got snow

20:04

plows out to plow the streets.

20:07

But it's really, it's just sort of like an indictment

20:09

of the current system we

20:11

find ourselves in as Republicans that Donald

20:14

Trump just discouraged mail-in voting and stuff and

20:16

sort of changed a culture in the Republican

20:18

Party that existed for my entire lifetime and

20:20

that is Republicans show up early and they

20:22

vote. And we're not doing that as much

20:24

and we, you know, we got to dig ourselves out of a hole

20:26

every election day now. And in places like

20:28

this, we're like, you know,

20:34

New York was an aberration in 2022, Florida as

20:38

well, you know, huge swing

20:40

for Republicans. You know, we

20:42

were winning seats that were like D plus

20:45

nine, D plus 10, like Mike Lawler comes

20:47

to mind, things like that. It's

20:49

going to be hard to recapture that magic we had

20:51

in a place like New York in 2022,

20:53

again in 2004,

20:56

if we don't change on the basic mechanics

20:58

of the election and start banking votes. Yeah.

21:00

Yeah. Well, a lot of campaigns are in

21:02

on it and people are

21:05

trying to do as much to try to

21:07

influence that culture as they can. But again,

21:09

there's this overriding assumption in the Republican electorate,

21:11

the only way to vote is voted on election

21:13

day. And I knew we were in deep shit. I was

21:15

sitting on the set of special

21:17

report last night at 6 45 and they

21:20

had a guy in one of the precincts doing

21:22

a live report and he's like, yeah,

21:24

this has been open since 7 a.m. I've been sitting

21:26

here and so this is 6 45 p.m. He's like,

21:28

so far

21:30

22 people have voted today. And it's

21:32

like a midst of a massive snowstorm. And I'm

21:35

like, well, I already

21:37

know what the results going to be. It was a

21:39

Republican district, right? Republican

21:41

precinct. So anyway, yeah, got to get

21:43

better at that. We also had a,

21:46

this is actually, I think, more significant,

21:48

not in terms of like federal governance,

21:50

which is of primary

21:52

primary significance. But in terms

21:55

of election significance, Pennsylvania

21:58

Dems seal House majority. with

22:00

a special election win, where it

22:02

was is concerning. This

22:05

is from Politico. Democrats retain a slim majority in

22:07

the Pennsylvania House of Representatives on Tuesday after voters

22:09

elected a former school board member. Everybody knows things

22:12

have been going great at the school, so I

22:14

can see how he had a nice platform to

22:16

run through to represent them

22:18

in a Philadelphia suburb that had

22:20

been trending more to the left.

22:23

Jim Prokopiak, I think that's how you

22:25

say his name, was

22:27

elected to the Bucks County seat. They will

22:29

give Democrats a 102-100 majority in the House,

22:33

and they have sought to defend in

22:35

four special elections in the past

22:37

year. This was all because of

22:39

a Republican resignation that happened there.

22:42

Here's the problem, and this is like

22:45

just a brief primer on Pennsylvania. Those

22:48

Philadelphia suburbs, Bucks County, Chester

22:51

County, Delaware County, are

22:53

majority makers in statewide

22:56

elections in Pennsylvania. They're

22:58

vote-rich. They're areas that

23:01

fundamentally changed during the Reagan Revolution.

23:03

H.W. Bush overperformed

23:07

there, and Republicans held it for a large part of

23:09

the last 30 years, mostly 30 years. In

23:12

fact, everything from Congress all the way

23:14

down to your county board seats and everything else, it was

23:16

all Republican.

23:19

Starting in 2016, and then every

23:22

year afterwards, Republicans have lost those

23:24

counties. Those counties are

23:27

huge, high

23:30

information flow. Affluence

23:34

the wrong word, but it's definitely

23:36

middle class, and there are upper-class

23:38

parts of the communities that

23:41

have voted for Republicans for 30 years

23:43

and all of a sudden stopped and went the

23:45

other direction. This is the

23:47

issue that we flagged on this program

23:49

time and time again that

23:52

I understand entirely when you hear

23:54

people talk about the changing demographic

23:56

in the Republican Party. It's now

23:58

a working-class party. I think that's a

24:01

positive thing, but it doesn't

24:03

have to be mutually exclusive. It

24:05

really doesn't. There are people

24:07

whose economic alignment with conservative

24:10

issues are entirely located within

24:12

the Republican Party. Democrats

24:14

have absolutely no pitch to make to

24:16

these people about their pocketbooks. They have

24:19

nothing, and yet they've now

24:21

won it for six straight years. You've

24:23

got to ask some questions about that. You've

24:26

got to ask some questions about that. We are not

24:28

doing a good enough job, and I don't know anything

24:30

about the candidates. I don't know anything about

24:32

the campaign or anything about it, but

24:34

when you're consistently losing those counties, just

24:38

put it on your radar. Unless something changes

24:40

between now and next November, you're going to

24:42

have a lot of disappointment there. I

24:45

think a guy like McCormick, who's the Senate candidate there,

24:47

has got deep resonance in places like that, speaks

24:50

the language of people that live in

24:52

those communities, has the capacity to

24:54

over-perform Republican expectations there,

24:57

but this has happened with too much

24:59

frequency in states that

25:01

Republicans need to win the presidency in

25:04

Senate elections and Governor's elections to

25:07

not be concerned about it. All right? Yeah,

25:10

I mean, because it isn't just a Bucks County problem. It

25:13

means it's also a Maricopa County problem. It

25:16

means it's a problem in those counties in the north

25:18

suburbs of Atlanta. There you go. And

25:20

those are states we have to win to regain

25:22

the presidency. It's just simple

25:24

mathematics. It's a Charlotte problem. Yeah. Well,

25:27

look, look, and last night there was

25:29

also a special in Oklahoma, this area

25:31

called Edmund, which is on the northern

25:34

reaches of the Oklahoma

25:37

City area. And

25:39

this is a district that Trump won by

25:41

like 26 points in 2020, and the Republican

25:43

won last

25:46

night by five points. So

25:49

it is a real issue that has

25:51

to be taken seriously if we want

25:53

to succeed this fall. And

25:55

I think, look, I've got more

25:57

confidence in this Trump campaign for all the reasons.

26:00

that we've talked about, about understanding and knowing

26:02

that those, that is a demographic you can't

26:04

alienate, you got to go try to compete

26:06

for those votes. What has

26:09

been problematic within the party is you've got a

26:11

huge segment of the base at this point that

26:13

has embraced the working class piece, which is great,

26:16

but they've also done everything they can do to

26:18

try to say like, there's no room in this

26:20

party for anybody with economic

26:22

concerns. And there's no room

26:24

in this party for anybody with international

26:27

concerns or anything else. And

26:29

what you do is you eliminate a

26:31

whole bunch of high information flow voters

26:33

who follow this stuff. Like

26:36

it's not just about the pothole that's outside

26:38

of their house. Like they've got like broader

26:40

concerns. Perhaps they're in business,

26:43

perhaps they're, you know,

26:45

they have farmers with

26:47

international trade, perhaps there's a whole bunch of

26:49

different things that go into it, but

26:52

you can't like add

26:54

by subtraction. Like we

26:57

just need to just keep broadening this tent

27:00

a little bit more than we have over the

27:02

last six years, or this is prophetic. It's

27:04

prophetic. I mean, this is what will happen.

27:07

This is what will happen. It's not like, which is

27:10

a disaster. You've got 18, 20, 22, maybe three election

27:12

cycles where this exact

27:16

same thing happened. Now you have

27:18

special elections on a random

27:20

Tuesday in February. The same

27:22

damn thing happened. Well, everybody's like, ah,

27:25

it's bad candidate, bad, bad, bad, bad.

27:29

Not for six years. Not

27:31

for six years. Like there's something

27:33

going wrong there. I mean, we need to

27:35

hear a plan from somebody about

27:38

how they intend to recapture

27:41

reliable Republican votes for 30

27:43

years in the current iteration

27:46

of the Republican party. Just need to do

27:48

it. Otherwise, you're all going to be disappointed

27:50

in November. We're all going to be looking

27:52

for somebody to blame. We're all,

27:54

you know, I mean, it's the same old story and

27:56

it's like, oh, victimization. Look what happened to us. I

27:59

think. that's bullshit. I've never done anything

28:02

in my life where that is a

28:04

satisfactory answer. Like, oh, we would

28:06

have won except for. You

28:08

know? I just don't understand it. And I don't like

28:11

to associate with it. So anyway,

28:14

we're blowing the whistle on that sucker. Keep

28:16

an eye on it. Um,

28:18

alright. Should we just play a game? Yes.

28:21

Let's do it now. Yes, that was so depressing. Let's

28:24

play a game. Holmes, why'd you make me so depressed?

28:26

You made me say all these things that are just

28:28

make me angry. Well, I just, you know,

28:30

it's like you listen to this program because you want a little

28:32

bit of truth. It is true. If

28:34

I just wanted to blow sunshine up your skirt. I appreciate

28:36

it. I would go on like fucking band and show or

28:39

something like that. I would tell you how great everything is

28:41

if you just close your eyes and think a lot. Yeah.

28:44

But it's not going to change anything. No. So,

28:46

but what does change something is

28:49

my reigning championship here in King of

28:51

the Hill. Well, yes, it is Thursday

28:53

and that means the signature

28:55

game of the variety program, King of the Hill.

28:57

I'm judged this week. So handsome.

29:00

And I'm bailiff. And that looks a challenger.

29:03

Smug. Smug being bailiff is always a great

29:05

wild card. I really appreciate that. I do too. You

29:08

never know what you're going to get. Quite possibly the best bailiff

29:10

in the history of the game. Well, I like hearing that. I

29:13

just, you know, in in in

29:15

transparency's sake, I

29:17

have to inform the defending

29:19

champion that the challenger really tried to butter

29:21

me up today. Oh, no. Yeah.

29:24

There was extracurriculars? He came in my office and he brought

29:27

up the lint roller and he was like, can I help

29:29

you, pal? You got a little lint

29:31

on your shoulder. You need a zen. Look what he's

29:33

doing. It's unbelievable. Okay, so you have our defending champion,

29:35

right? I

29:39

do. Yeah, David Fromm. Yeah.

29:41

And who are you bringing as the challenger,

29:43

Ashbrook? I'm bringing an oldie but goodie, Sherry

29:46

Jacobus. Oh, well. Sherry Jacobus. Sherry

29:49

Jacobus. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

29:53

It's been a while, to be honest. And then to Patrick Mahomes

29:55

in the playoffs. It

29:57

is. Okay, well, let's go.

30:04

Ladies and gentlemen, your

30:07

attention please. It's

30:09

time for King of the Hill

30:12

in the blue corner fighting

30:14

out of her own Twitter

30:16

account. Cammie

30:19

Cherry Jacobus.

30:22

And now in the

30:24

red corner fighting out of

30:27

who knows where. David,

30:30

where did you

30:32

come from? Outstanding.

30:34

It's always good. It's always good.

30:37

Our defending champion goes first in

30:39

round one. Okay,

30:42

Spaghetti, I'm going to go with

30:44

exhibit five to start things

30:47

out. This is from

30:49

David from Putin's Last Hope

30:51

is Speaker Mike Johnson. Holy

30:54

cow. Short

30:57

and sweet. Yeah, no. No, no. Seven

30:59

words. Just the hell with it. Known

31:01

communist. I

31:03

don't think it even requires commentary. I know. I'm not going to leave.

31:05

I'm just going to leave it. Ashbrook,

31:09

what do you got for me? Okay.

31:14

Nick, let's go to exhibit 11. And

31:20

I'm just going to describe this

31:22

as a tweet from someone talking

31:24

about how Melania Trump is good.

31:26

Okay. And Cherry Jacobus

31:29

quote tweets, soft core

31:31

porn, gold digging foul mouth, plastic

31:33

idiot who lied about her college

31:35

degrees hates fucking

31:38

Christmas and keeps

31:40

her immigration legal status secret like

31:42

that. Oh, there's

31:45

a lot there. This

31:48

is just on this is on top

31:50

of some unsuspecting random person who says

31:52

Melania Trump is nice. Wow.

32:00

It's a lot to contend with there. Well,

32:02

it's uh This is

32:04

a really tough decision for the judge and

32:06

jury. I mean they're both going on hinge

32:09

in the first round Yeah, and I appreciate

32:11

that ashbrook didn't just roll over and give

32:13

you round one and he he threw back

32:15

a really strong take Although with sherry, you

32:17

never know he might have three like two

32:19

more bangers. Yeah, you never know you never

32:21

know I

32:24

just I just simplicity is what I

32:27

argue here. It's like putin

32:30

Last hope is mike johnson. Yeah, you know I

32:32

I I

32:35

I normally agree and I I do believe that

32:37

you know brevity is the soul of wit however

32:42

Just that screed and the attack of

32:45

a woman on a woman In

32:48

a way that is just so unhinged

32:52

uh I just got

32:54

to give sherry round one. Wow

32:56

the deliberate bias for sherry's style

32:58

is Unmistakable in

33:00

this courtroom. How dare you sir?

33:04

One one more one more outburst like that and you're

33:07

going to be sanctioned by this court. You can't do

33:09

anything to me How does mike

33:11

spaghetti? Look

33:15

let let let the judge explain this

33:17

a little bit further. It wasn't just

33:20

An unhinged take she put a lot

33:22

of time in that nick. Can we put that up

33:24

again real quick? Soft

33:27

core porn gold digging foulmouth

33:30

plastic idiot I

33:33

mean she probably put that in microsoft word before she put it out

33:35

in a tweet Yeah, you know She really

33:37

put a lot of thought in that and I think

33:40

we need to appreciate that genius of sherry jacobis And

33:42

for that reason ashbrook is again the winner of round

33:44

one. It's on to you for round two Um

33:50

your honor, uh, I I know

33:53

that you're aware of this but the

33:55

house representatives warned everyone about

33:57

a national security threat and

34:00

And I believe it's been declassified with

34:02

exhibit number 12. Megyn

34:08

Kelly, whose tweet I will not read,

34:10

but I will describe, of course, she's

34:12

a friend of the program. She's

34:15

just tweeting about an issue of concern.

34:19

Cherry Jacobus about Megyn Kelly.

34:22

Her performative white nationalism is

34:24

a strategic career move after

34:26

she tried once for 10

34:28

minutes to straddle that fence,

34:30

and it didn't result in instant success for

34:33

her. Cherry Jacobus. Okay.

34:38

Holmes? Okay.

34:42

So from, I'm going to go with the

34:44

exhibit number three here, which

34:47

I find, again, in its brevity

34:49

to be completely hilarious. Meanwhile,

34:51

Trump looks to plunder the

34:53

Republican National Committee. Here's

34:56

the painting. Is this apropos of nothing? Apropos

34:59

of nothing. It

35:02

is like he saw a headline

35:05

and went right to Twitter with it. What's

35:07

so funny about it is that there is

35:09

a storied tradition within the Republican Party of

35:11

any nominee, likely nominee,

35:15

to begin a transition of a Republican National

35:17

Committee that they didn't install to put their

35:19

own people over there to ensure that they've

35:22

run a seamless campaign between the campaign and

35:24

the RNC itself. It's

35:26

what always happened. It's happened every

35:29

cycle I've been alive. It's what

35:31

always happened. It's what always happens.

35:35

And this is a plundering.

35:39

Now can I ask one question about that? Yeah. Do

35:42

you have a timestamp? What time you dropped that at?

35:44

I don't have a timestamp on this one. I wish

35:47

I did. Because if I ballpark this, like, I

35:50

guess it's in the early end, maybe

35:52

one or two a.m., it's

35:54

just wild. I'm

36:01

not talking crazy. Plunder.

36:03

As if David Frum has

36:06

spent a solitary second of his

36:08

life thinking about the

36:10

health and well-being of the Republican

36:12

National Committee. Yeah. Your

36:15

Honor, my client

36:17

said that Megyn Kelly is a performative white

36:19

nationalist at the Strategic Career Movement. You know

36:21

the thing is with that take, it's one

36:24

of Sherry's weak ones where there's like no

36:26

oomph to it. The first one had an

36:28

artifice in gusto, right? It had artistry in

36:30

there. This one's just like Megyn Kelly

36:32

is a white nationalist where it's like no one

36:35

believes that no one cares. It's just hot air.

36:37

Thank you, Bailiff. I appreciate

36:39

your support because I too agree.

36:45

You may think I am biased, Holmes, but I

36:47

think my threshold for being outraged at a Sherry

36:49

tweet is actually pretty high. I

36:51

found that one rather pedestrian for her. And

36:55

for that reason, Frum's

36:58

apropos of nothing tweet, it

37:00

wins round two. Like I've always

37:02

said, this court is a harbinger

37:04

of fairness in the dictionary definition

37:06

of integrity. And I can't disagree.

37:11

Okay. Well,

37:15

you know, I'm trying to get a

37:18

little different look

37:21

at all of these variety of things that

37:23

he's weighed in on here because I don't

37:25

like to overlap a whole bunch. But I

37:27

think this one in particular rises

37:30

to a level that the

37:34

hyperbole of it is

37:37

worthy of in and of itself.

37:39

Okay. I'm going

37:41

to go with the exhibit six, Spaghetti. Like

37:47

the equal fierce fight over the Lend-Lease

37:49

in 1941, this is a night that

37:51

will define the

37:55

U.S. Senate for a century to come.

37:58

What he's talking about is the passage of

38:01

the foreign aid to

38:04

Ukraine, Israel, and

38:06

Taiwan, a very contentious and

38:09

modern standards debate.

38:13

For those of you who need a little education on the

38:15

Lin-Lise Act, that

38:18

is the policy under which the

38:20

United States supplied the United Kingdom

38:24

and other allies in

38:26

preparation for the Second World War. Yeah,

38:28

a little different. Against Hitler. So,

38:31

so, so I think in context. It's

38:36

not in detail. Feels

38:39

a little hyperbolic.

38:43

What I love about it

38:45

is the opponents

38:48

of aid abroad

38:51

in this situation will tell you we're going

38:53

to start World War III, and it sounds

38:55

like David Fromm welcomes that. Wow.

38:59

Not just welcoming it. It's

39:02

a premonition at some point of

39:04

what he's predicting to come. My

39:06

Lord. The good news for all

39:08

of you listeners is that David Fromm does not have

39:10

a terrific history in terms of

39:12

predicting these sort of world events.

39:16

We'll be great as liberators. Brutal,

39:19

dude. That hurts. Got

39:22

him good. Okay,

39:26

exhibit 10, please, Spaghetti. Cherry

39:29

Jacobus says,

39:33

since there are precisely zero

39:35

things, this is again, is

39:38

a reminder of former Republican, since

39:41

there are zero thing, precisely zero

39:43

things to hit Biden on with

39:46

policy and accomplishments, Garland's

39:48

team took the cheapest shot and only hit

39:50

they could age. Here's

39:54

where she gets interesting. Trump

39:57

is far older physically and

40:00

mentally, but Garland Herr went

40:02

with a dog whistle to scare people

40:04

about a black woman VP. Oh

40:06

my... That's a bomb,

40:08

dude. I mean... That's a

40:11

killer. The brain worms have

40:14

wiggled down so deep to

40:16

the stem of this woman's brain. They have motor

40:18

function now. They have totally

40:21

controlled her fingers. The

40:24

way that she seamlessly goes from

40:27

Biden to Garland to

40:29

Trump to Herr to

40:32

then this also being a conspiracy

40:35

to undercut Kamala Harris. I'll

40:39

remind the court that the context of

40:41

this tweet is immediately following... You don't

40:43

need to remind her. You don't need

40:46

to remind her. May I... No,

40:48

you can't. No, I think we can jump in

40:50

here. Immediately following President Biden's press

40:52

conference, she says that Trump

40:55

is older mentally and physically. I think

40:57

that context is well provided. I got

40:59

that part, but the whole thing is

41:01

just a... it's a symphony. And for

41:04

that reason, we have a new champion.

41:06

So here's the thing. Wow,

41:09

that was so strong. When he started with

41:11

the Garland thing, I

41:14

thought I was in the ball game here. Yeah, because

41:16

Garland is a frequent... She's always with the Garland stuff

41:18

like Garland is doing X, Y, and Z. And I

41:20

was like, I'm in the ball game. Right

41:22

up until the last two words of the tweet. And

41:25

it was like that all was some

41:27

sort of a deeply racist play. It

41:30

was like she executed a perfect triple sauco

41:32

right at the end. There's like the whole

41:34

iceberg. You got the lure of like Sherry's

41:36

against Garland. You got to the day, like,

41:38

oh, this might be like her usual thing.

41:40

But no, no, she always finds new

41:43

ways to innovate. I deeply

41:45

thought I could compete with predicting

41:47

World War III. Yeah. I

41:49

mean, that wasn't that wasn't weak at all. No, I thought I was

41:52

going to get home. How much is wrong, round three? I thought I

41:54

was going to get home. If I had... But I

41:56

just don't know why Ashbrook, even after you won, you just like keep

41:58

thinking you're defending, dude. I'm not defending. I'm just

42:00

pointing out things I thought were interesting because

42:02

if I had the soundboard here, you know,

42:04

I would press the button and it would

42:07

be Scott Hamilton saying,

42:09

double axle triple Can

42:14

we have a conversation with Lee about this? We

42:17

brought this up several times. He seems to be

42:19

deliberately depriving us. It shows us strong without Ashford

42:21

having the soundboard. I like the way things are

42:23

going. I don't. I don't. Wow.

42:27

He causes problems. First of all, it's rude.

42:29

I don't remember that. I don't

42:31

want him to do the theme song. We're talking 300 episodes. I

42:33

want the West Wing. I

42:35

want the racist button. I'll give

42:37

it some thought. I think this show... Oh, yeah. What

42:43

an amazing thing. I'll

42:45

give it some thought. Wow. Very

42:48

kind and deferential. Yes, yes, yes. Fellas,

42:53

William Bill Post, the inventor of

42:55

Pop-Tarts, is dead at 96. This

42:59

is a man that has played a little

43:01

role in all of our formative

43:04

years by creating the Pop-Tart,

43:06

the beloved toaster treat, as

43:09

the New York Post phrases it.

43:11

He died on Saturday, his family announced he was

43:14

96, a

43:16

Michigan native, son of immigrants who worked his

43:18

way up from a truck washer to a

43:20

senior vice president. He brightened millions of Americans'

43:22

mornings with a sweet pastry that hit

43:24

the shelves in He

43:27

should be able to... They

43:29

have a state funeral in the capital. Just

43:34

for creating the S'more Pop-Tart. Little in the

43:36

whole thing. That one alone earned him that

43:38

right. Yeah, S'more Pop-Tarts were kitty cocaine. Brilliant

43:41

arc. Fantastic. Also, just the cinnamon

43:43

ones. And then who can forget?

43:45

Just on a more low-key day?

43:48

Like classic strawberry frosted. Which is

43:50

so good. And

43:52

you know what? I want to sell a debate that I've

43:54

seen rage for a very long time and I think the

43:56

science has settled on this one. Pop-Tarts

43:59

are better than toasters. Yeah,

44:01

they're better than toaster. I don't think there's a question

44:03

Yeah, there's lots of people who are like oh well

44:05

the toaster students better No, toaster school is absolutely not

44:07

the toaster the toaster your product the toaster shrewd will

44:09

requires you to do some work Yeah, it's like you

44:12

gotta get out the icing everywhere the thing can get

44:14

too hot and turn it like molten lava when you

44:16

take a bite Yeah, right right heart never killed anybody

44:18

right if I wanted to do work in the morning.

44:20

I'd have an omelette The

44:24

only reason they eat food before I went to school for

44:26

every day little something sweet and send you on your way

44:30

It's very kind all right well There's

44:33

a good you guys ever watch Brian Regan. It's

44:35

a great comedian. He's very funny He

44:38

may have this joke about pop tarts on the

44:40

side of the box or instructions for how you microwave

44:42

a pop tart People

44:50

ain't got that kind of time The pop

44:52

tart was like the hack for parents who

44:54

are like very bad at time management Oh,

45:01

you know it's like kids get in the car I'm throwing

45:04

these silver packets at you because you don't even have to

45:06

throw them in the toaster No, that's an optional step. You

45:08

know parents port time management can't

45:11

make their kids breakfast or whatever just Jacked

45:16

on sugar for the first hour of the day. Yes send

45:18

you to your teacher more

45:22

parenting lessons from comfortable I Need

45:27

to play the clip on this one because I need the

45:29

context of it before we get into it clip

45:31

one if you wouldn't mind spaghett's this is

45:33

a We'll

45:36

just get into it But in

45:38

North Carolina aquarium are scratching their heads after

45:40

a stingray in their lab Got

45:43

suspiciously pregnant hmm that steam ray named

45:45

Charlotte is expecting But the aquarium says

45:47

they don't have any male stingrays in

45:49

their case Analysts say

45:52

there might be two ways Charlotte ended

45:54

up in this condition and won't know until the pups

45:56

are born One is a very rare

45:58

process in which the develop on their

46:00

own and create a clone of

46:03

the mother. The second she was mingling with

46:05

one of the young sharks that stayed in

46:07

the tank. Wait what? Last July. Oh. I

46:10

also have a lot of questions here. Yeah I

46:13

hope we can keep up with that. So

46:15

it seems to me like there are,

46:17

I agree, two options. First

46:20

is there's some kind

46:22

of a bestiality thing going

46:25

on. As we've read about in the New York

46:27

Post over this week, people have

46:29

been interacting with animals in unspeakable ways.

46:32

The second is that

46:34

it's Jesus. No

46:36

no no it's the Antichrist. Have

46:39

you seen Omen? This is some dark

46:41

stuff. Did he come back as his thing right? Singtus,

46:44

dominoos. No

46:47

I don't like, I kind of think it's

46:49

more like Jurassic Park. You

46:51

know Jeff Goldblum? Yeah. Life

46:54

finds a way. It finds a way.

46:56

Remember in Jurassic Park they had only female

46:59

dinosaurs. And life finds a way. Did

47:01

no one pay attention to the

47:03

second half of that segment? Like

47:05

the dude said that this could be because

47:07

she was hanging out with sharks. Yeah. Yeah.

47:09

I didn't even know they could crossbreed. You

47:12

gotta kill it dude. Like you want now

47:14

sharks with like, being great prods dude? Like

47:16

you want to further arm these damn things.

47:18

No. We can't take that chance. God knows

47:20

what comes out of there. No I'm glad

47:22

you raised that smug. How

47:24

does a shark bang a stingray dude?

47:28

I mean I don't think, I mean it's tough for anyone

47:30

to kind of fight a shark you know. Now he's

47:32

alleging some kind of a good

47:36

priority. Yeah I bet that shark is

47:38

a criminal. They all are

47:40

in general. They have no morals. They should all be

47:42

killed if you ask me. But like

47:44

we can't take that. Imagine the shark stingray

47:46

dude. It can't be allowed to

47:49

happen. Like first off it's got these jaws

47:51

and then you want to have a stingray

47:53

too? Like where's possible? It's a very good

47:55

point. Yeah. What, Smash, what is that is

47:57

that I assume that runs along the

47:59

line? of the animal war that

48:01

you've been conducting? They're doing everything they can

48:04

to overcome us. And I'm glad this monk

48:06

pointed this out, because we have to be

48:08

vigilant, we have to stop them, and we

48:10

have to continue to ring the alarm here

48:12

at the people for the protection of people.

48:14

Well, because we've been talking a lot about

48:17

this war, but we've never thought

48:19

about how the enemy

48:21

might adapt. Yes. Right?

48:23

And like, if they are starting to invest

48:25

a lot of their resources into the creation

48:27

of hybrids, with upgraded

48:30

weapon systems, because now you've got a

48:33

stingray shark hybrid. It's a stingray, dude. Yeah, it's

48:35

gonna happen. We can't allow that. It's a stingray.

48:37

No stingrays, dude. My watch.

48:39

Yeah, I'm with you. Apparently

48:42

this has happened with Komodo dragons and

48:44

yellow-bellied water snakes. Are you for real?

48:46

Yeah, no, so you're right to be

48:48

all over this. We ought to blow

48:50

it. There's a lot of animals that

48:52

need to die. It's in Charlotte. Yeah.

48:55

North Carolina. And this is the problem, is we

48:57

have a Democrat governor in North Carolina that love

48:59

this kind of shit. Yeah. Did

49:03

you know? I mean, this might

49:05

be the threat that Mike Turner was

49:07

alluding to, being a national security threat.

49:09

This is what Mike Turner was talking

49:12

about. It's the stingray. We need an

49:14

unguided air-to-air missile in Charlotte media. Yeah,

49:16

where's the genie when you need it?

49:19

Oh my God, that just

49:21

says it's positively ridiculous.

49:25

It is in North Carolina. That's what he said. Komodo

49:28

dragon and what kind of thing? No, no,

49:30

no, no, that was other things. Just the

49:32

stingray. Yeah, that's the stingray. It's the only

49:34

thing that I know that is in North

49:36

Carolina. I don't know of any other immaculate

49:38

conceptions in Charlotte. And this thing's an abomination. Bottom line, it's gotta

49:41

go. Yeah, it's gotta go. It's gotta go. All right, well. And

49:43

it's easy to make that happen. Yeah. You just pick it up

49:45

out of the water and throw it on the ground. Ha ha

49:47

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

49:49

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Then it's done. Ha

49:51

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

49:53

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You don't need a

49:56

long needle. Picking clean. Just

49:58

throw it. Just throw it. throw it in the mulch. And

50:01

then one of these. Yeah. Chomp

50:03

and done. Chomp and done. All right.

50:13

So with that spectacular intro, I think we

50:15

ought to get to our main event here

50:18

with our interview

50:20

with Congressman Tony Gonzalez.

50:24

I want to welcome to the program a good friend of

50:26

ours, a guy we've had on once before, but it's been

50:29

a little while. He

50:31

represents the great state of

50:33

Texas in Texas 23, Tony Gonzalez. How are

50:35

you, sir? I'm great. Thanks

50:37

for having me. I

50:39

think the first time we did this was like over a Zoom or something.

50:42

Yeah. It's back in our gritty sort

50:44

of startup garage band days.

50:47

Yeah. No, it's good. And

50:49

it's good for me. Anytime I get off the hill, I'm in. Yeah,

50:51

I bet. I'm in. It's

50:53

rough out there. I

50:55

know. Glad I made it here alive. I

50:59

mean, only a 20-year veteran that

51:01

I had confidence in. Exactly. Exactly.

51:04

Exactly. One of America's

51:06

heroes, not just in his day

51:08

job as a congressman, but in the effort

51:10

that he's had on behalf of all of

51:12

us in the armed services. Thank you very

51:14

much for your service in the Navy and

51:16

everything else. Of course. Much appreciated.

51:18

Listen, a lot of important stuff.

51:22

You have been, for better or

51:24

worse, sort of an emissary to

51:26

the rest of Congress

51:29

and the administration on border

51:31

issues because of where your district is

51:33

and because you have

51:35

just sort of a practical take. I remember the first

51:37

time we talked to you, there was

51:41

a very real concern that people were expressing about

51:43

body bags. Yeah, that's it. And

51:46

I remember being shocked by that. You

51:50

see a lot more interest now than there

51:52

was initially when everybody thought this was like

51:55

a right-wing problem. Yeah. And now it seems

51:57

like an everything problem. Left,

51:59

right, and center seem to be a problem.

52:01

Be concerned about amazing what happens when it's

52:03

not just taxes that migraine lists and up

52:05

in the Us all over the country Omelets

52:07

you take. In

52:09

my district in particular, people are tired,

52:11

were exhausted, were tired of being on

52:13

the news. No one heard of Eagle

52:16

Pass three years ago, no one heard

52:18

of these little towns and and were

52:20

just exhausted. But it's not just in

52:22

Texas. I met with sob last week

52:24

I met with for mothers at lost

52:26

their children to Fentanyl. Misses the nexus

52:28

that touch touches everybody and it's it.

52:30

You know, distance no longer border communities,

52:33

it's all throughout the country. There is

52:35

some form or fashion. Last week I

52:37

met I've I've visited the F. B. I

52:39

headquarters in San Antonio and for one

52:41

particular reason to talk about terrorism, counterterrorism

52:43

and also to weave in these trans

52:46

national crime. Cm so these these yeah,

52:48

there's a new Venezuelan gangs that out.

52:50

That is that it. I mean these

52:52

guys gobble up And Mr. T folks,

52:54

no one's talking about him, they're called

52:57

that on. There are a lot of

52:59

a eighty eight. Votes.

53:01

No one's talking about him now. Three years

53:03

from now, we're going to be talking about

53:06

himself. This is the threat I think that

53:08

has so many people. Go and wait

53:10

a second here. We don't feel safe. Yeah

53:12

yeah. We also says why we look you've

53:14

you are. Obviously early to

53:16

this just in terms of proximity

53:18

been. Also, you're concerned you're in

53:20

urging of practical solutions and know

53:22

be could wrap their mind around

53:24

all that. We don't seem to

53:26

be any closer to solutions particularly

53:28

with this administration. Ah, but what

53:30

what do we don't? I get

53:32

mean I imagine like the stand

53:34

off between Gov have it in

53:36

the federal government images underscores the

53:38

issue the Ubuntu lagging are all

53:40

on. Yeah, that something to as

53:42

you know restocking about shall be

53:44

part. they're less. one mile a thousand

53:46

miles to the land right and a

53:49

thousand miles of the right is open

53:51

principally right ourselves yeah that's a shiny

53:53

object and but but that does in

53:55

isn't going to get any closer to

53:57

solving it i've hosted twenty two different

53:59

code else at the border, nearly 200, over 200 members.

54:02

You're like a concierge. It's crazy. Yeah. I

54:04

told, Caesar's my chief of staff. I told

54:06

him, hey, if this gig doesn't work out,

54:08

we'll just be Tony's border tours. We've got

54:10

to all walk in. Did

54:12

you get one of those double-decker buses

54:14

and get out and walk backwards? Well,

54:16

I want to see them, I want

54:19

people to see it unfiltered, untapped, hearing

54:21

straight from people, the sources. Because once

54:23

you do, once you see it, you

54:25

can't unsee it. I mean, it just

54:27

changes. Just does. These stories are

54:29

very real. They're gritty. It's

54:32

ugly. And so we've done a lot of that.

54:34

Probably, I'd say, one of the most effective things

54:36

we did is I hosted Elon Musk at the

54:38

border. Yeah. I heard about that. And I kind

54:40

of just hit a wall. I'm going, I'm hosting

54:42

all these people. And more people want to come.

54:44

Don't get me. They're going, hey, can you host

54:46

me next week? And I go, nothing

54:49

has changed. So I reached out to Elon.

54:51

We got him down. And on

54:53

his phone, very Elon, he's like,

54:55

hey, I'm just going to video us. You're

54:57

live and talk. And

55:00

I had a sheriff there. I had mayors, people

55:02

that lived there. It was Democrats

55:04

and Republicans. It wasn't like, oh,

55:07

I stacked the deck with this, that, or

55:09

the other. And they're just kind of relaying,

55:11

along with myself, relaying what happened. That video

55:13

got 110 million views. Incredible.

55:15

I mean, those aren't Fox watchers. Zones

55:17

aren't CNN watchers. Those aren't, I mean,

55:19

and it's just across the board. And

55:22

so I thought that kind of got

55:24

into the bloodstream. But you hit up

55:26

another point, too, is what about solutions?

55:28

I think everyone can identify the problem

55:30

now. And the Biden administration can't

55:32

run away from the problem. What about some

55:34

damn solutions to fix it? I mean, that's

55:36

got to be the most frustrating part. Go

55:38

ahead. It is. Well, I mean, I was

55:40

going to say, I'm so glad that you're

55:42

down there showing people what exactly is happening.

55:44

Because there's so much misinformation out there on

55:46

the internet, never or else. But if you

55:48

can see the images for yourself, the images

55:50

don't lie. What the border patrol is doing,

55:52

they're doing their best to get

55:55

the information out to people. And what we

55:57

now know is it's not just Guatemala.

56:00

Malin family is coming up for a better

56:02

life. There are people literally shipping

56:04

over the Atlantic, shipping over the

56:07

Pacific, fighting age men from China

56:09

who are crossing into our country.

56:11

I mean, the uptick in that has got

56:14

to have, I mean, you've seen a lot

56:16

of change in that in

56:18

your time. I have. And, you know,

56:20

I was walking through the halls

56:22

today and a reporter comes up to me and

56:24

goes, hey, Tony, I'm glad I caught you. Yeah,

56:27

I'm glad you caught me too. Right. And

56:29

he goes, nothing. I love more than talking to

56:31

a friend. I'm like, are you just roaming the

56:33

halls? Like, what are you doing? He's like, Oh,

56:35

I'm glad I caught you. And he goes, what

56:38

do you, what is your take on the numbers

56:40

going down in January? And I go, the

56:42

numbers going down in January, there are

56:44

7000 people crossing illegally. This

56:47

is the worst January we've had in the

56:49

history of our country. Is it as bad

56:51

as December? No, but it's still the worst

56:53

January in history. So it's a lot of

56:55

it is how you frame it. And

56:57

what I've tried to do is just show

57:00

it unfiltered, untapped and let people be the

57:02

judge and also go, this is wrong on

57:04

all levels. And how do we make it

57:06

stop now? You know, add, add politics into

57:09

it, right? And you get some presidential year

57:11

complicated, all these different things. What I've

57:13

said to House Republicans is let's take

57:15

a down payment in 2024. And

57:18

we come back for the rest when we win

57:20

the White House. I think we have to do

57:22

something. We can't just be throwing rocks and yelling

57:24

at the top of our lungs. People demand something.

57:26

Yeah. I mean, this is the point that we've made in the variety

57:29

program, which is like, look, it's very

57:31

unique for the rest of the country to be in a

57:33

situation where you're like, yeah, well, you know what, we'll just

57:35

change the president out and we'll fix it. Granted,

57:38

all that may be true. When you look

57:40

at the record that former president

57:42

Trump had towards the end of his administration with

57:44

the success that they had at the border, but

57:47

that doesn't give any relief to folks

57:49

like you and a border district who

57:51

are looking at the next nine months. Like what

57:53

the hell are we supposed to do with it?

57:55

Exactly. Exactly. And we also have to, we can't

57:58

let the administration run away from this. Right. You

58:00

know, they absolutely wanted this. Two

58:02

years ago, the vice president was

58:05

hosted by a member of Congress

58:07

in—a Democrat member of Congress in

58:09

El Paso. They did a press

58:11

conference there, and that

58:13

member said, welcome to the new Ellis

58:15

Island, right? And they go,

58:17

this is exactly what they want. So it's

58:19

systematic. They have to own these policies that

58:21

are failed. As

58:23

Republicans, we can't just be pointing that out.

58:26

I think we've done a damn good job

58:28

doing that. Now we've got to be the

58:30

party of solutions, real, tangible solutions. What

58:32

I've said, look, doing nothing, not an option.

58:35

But doing something just to say you've done

58:37

something, also not an option, right? What's

58:39

real, what's tangible, and it's difficult in

58:42

this political environment. You've got

58:44

so many different people kind of nipping

58:46

at it, but what I've always told folks is

58:48

you're never going to outboard on me, right? Yeah,

58:50

I'm kidding. Eight hundred and twenty-three miles to the

58:52

southern border. I have two-thirds of the Texas-Mexico border.

58:55

I know this problem set inside and out. Three

58:57

weeks ago, two and a half weeks ago, I went to Mexico

58:59

City. I visited with the president of

59:01

Mexico. I visited with the two leading candidates

59:04

who are going to be the next president. This is

59:06

something no one's talking about either. Mexico is about to

59:09

have a huge election in June. The

59:11

president, their entire Congress,

59:13

and nine governors are

59:15

up for elections. So what's going to happen is

59:17

essentially they're carrying the Biden administration for

59:20

a couple rounds, right? They're going to

59:22

kind of quell everything down a little

59:24

bit. Security's not too bad. And then

59:26

I suspect after June, once everything changes

59:28

back up, let's turn the volume back

59:30

up. I mean, how

59:32

can the volume get higher? I know, I

59:34

know. I mean, that's the thing. Yeah. It's

59:37

like if this is toting it down. Exactly. How's

59:39

the president of Egypt polling in that? Well,

59:41

better than Biden is doing. You

59:46

can't make this stuff up. I

59:51

know. You can't. And you

59:53

know what? It's comical, but it also should scare the hell out of us.

59:56

Right. And

59:58

then everything that's happening with the Sec Dev. You

1:00:00

know, he's out every other clearly the guy

1:00:02

has has health issues, right and all these

1:00:04

other, you know My orcas you go down

1:00:06

the list and you're going like it's it's

1:00:09

comical But it also like we're the leader

1:00:11

of the free world. Yeah, like we shouldn't

1:00:13

be embarrassed about You know

1:00:15

our president can't even put a sentence together,

1:00:17

right? Yes, so so there's some

1:00:19

obvious things that the administration and you

1:00:21

know, president Biden could do You

1:00:23

know with the with a pen right now, you know

1:00:25

remain in Mexico and all those sort of things

1:00:28

and obviously they Won't

1:00:30

do all of those things but outside of

1:00:33

that, you know If you had if you

1:00:35

had that magic wand and there were two

1:00:37

or three things you would do Tomorrow to

1:00:39

at least stem the tide between now and

1:00:41

Donald Trump being sworn in as the next

1:00:43

president United States What would they be? I

1:00:45

think the two things I would do is

1:00:47

get Biden to resign and then It's

1:00:50

gotta be a do

1:00:52

for them with addition

1:00:54

by subtraction. Yeah, you

1:00:57

know It's

1:00:59

pretty simple. I mean it really is

1:01:01

this and every administration's had to do

1:01:03

this Bush Clinton Obama Trump It's

1:01:06

deport people if you're here illegally you don't

1:01:08

qualify for asylum you get deported and you

1:01:10

know what this administrator You remember the Haitians?

1:01:12

Yeah, the Haitians under the bridge in Del

1:01:15

Rio thousands of Haitians I was there unlike

1:01:17

dairy on day two. I was there and

1:01:19

all the humanitarian Christ. Oh, it's horrible Yeah,

1:01:21

but then all of a sudden it went

1:01:23

away right like covered it for two weeks

1:01:25

And then it went away remember the Eagle Pass December 20th

1:01:28

I was there on the ground thousands of people

1:01:30

under the bridge and then all of a

1:01:33

sudden it went away Well, why did it go

1:01:35

away because they started to implement these deportations

1:01:37

are called they're called repatriation flights You

1:01:39

just turn them up a little bit doesn't have to be a lot

1:01:41

So what was happening in the case of the Haitians? They

1:01:44

were getting they were deporting them back to Haiti and

1:01:46

all these a lot of these Haitians. They weren't living

1:01:48

in Haiti anymore They were leaving in Chile and Peru

1:01:52

They had long since moved long since moved

1:01:54

and restarted their life and then they came to they're

1:01:56

like Oh now's the time to come to the United

1:01:58

States and they get rid of their documentation The

1:02:00

messed up part is now we started deporting them

1:02:02

back to Haiti. They're like, no, no, no, I'm

1:02:04

not from Haiti. I'm really living for root. Too

1:02:07

bad your ass is getting on a plane and

1:02:09

you're going back. And the minute we did that

1:02:11

just a little bit, guess what? It

1:02:14

all stopped. That's the Haitian love. Exactly.

1:02:16

Because word spreads. Word spreads. And

1:02:18

they know that it's over. Exactly. The border is

1:02:20

closed. You can say these things, but you have

1:02:22

to do these things. And

1:02:25

the other part too is this administration.

1:02:27

What about legal immigration? What about the

1:02:29

people that are legally trying to seek

1:02:31

work and legally fleeing religious

1:02:37

and political persecution? Legitimate ones. Those

1:02:39

people are getting mixed in with

1:02:41

everybody else. So in many cases,

1:02:43

they're putting the people that are doing it, and

1:02:45

it's not just in immigration. It's everything. It's why

1:02:47

Americans are so mad. They're putting, you're doing all

1:02:49

the things you're supposed to be doing. And all

1:02:51

of a sudden, you're in the back of the

1:02:53

line. But somebody who's cheating and

1:02:56

doing these things in the front of the line,

1:02:58

it's turned upside down. And there's

1:03:00

the people that are exploiting the

1:03:02

asylum system itself. Yes. I mean,

1:03:04

and we need to find a

1:03:06

way to basically expedite the system of review

1:03:08

for the claims, and then deport

1:03:12

people back when they clearly don't

1:03:14

qualify for asylum as it exists

1:03:17

legally. There's

1:03:19

a backlog of like eight years, 10 years,

1:03:21

these people aren't getting reviewed. Sure. Sure. So

1:03:23

how do we do that? You

1:03:26

essentially, it's the rocket dockets work. The last

1:03:28

one in is the first one out. You

1:03:30

start doing that, and then you kind of

1:03:32

stop the bleeding, if you will. You stop

1:03:34

the hemorrhaging. The other piece of it too

1:03:36

is we need our Border Patrol agents to

1:03:38

get back out in the field. They're no

1:03:40

longer doing their job. Yeah, they're out doing

1:03:42

paperwork. Exactly. And this is very

1:03:44

systematic. From the

1:03:47

inside out, have changed this organization

1:03:49

from a law enforcement agency into

1:03:51

a kind of the last

1:03:53

chain, if you will, in this human smuggling piece.

1:03:55

And it's really unfortunate. So we got to get

1:03:58

them back out of the field. catching

1:04:00

those bad actors, catching the drug, catching the,

1:04:02

you know, the fentanyl that's killing all our

1:04:04

kids. Those are some things that

1:04:06

the administration can do today, and they know they

1:04:08

can do that, but they choose not to, and

1:04:11

that's where we got to hold them accountable. But

1:04:13

also, once again, Congress has to find a way

1:04:15

to go, what? Hey, look, you know, I sit

1:04:17

on the Appropriations Committee and nothing says, I love

1:04:19

you, but like money or taking money away. Yeah.

1:04:22

And go, here's the deal. We're not gonna play

1:04:24

any games. We're gonna zero out that account, right?

1:04:26

And if you want money for flights all

1:04:29

day long, let's boost that up. You

1:04:31

want money for these soft-sided facilities that are

1:04:33

just magnets? You're not getting it.

1:04:35

So it's that level of granularity. You can prioritize.

1:04:37

Not just like close the border, since you're the

1:04:39

border. Like, what does that mean? No, I mean,

1:04:42

like what you just described there with the appropriations

1:04:44

process is the stuff that like, people

1:04:46

don't talk about on cable news. Yeah, it's almost like

1:04:48

he knows how to legislate. Right. What are you doing

1:04:51

in Congress? That's outrageous.

1:04:53

It's a side hustle. He figured out the levers

1:04:55

and the daily stuff? Get out of here. The

1:05:01

border is obviously the biggest issue on the

1:05:03

minds of everybody in the country, but you're

1:05:05

also a Navy vet and vets who are

1:05:07

coming back from, or who have come back

1:05:09

from Afghanistan and from other, from

1:05:11

other wars are really struggling in our country. I know you're doing

1:05:13

a lot to help them. Yeah, you

1:05:15

know, I spent 20 years in the military, five

1:05:17

years in Iraq and Afghanistan right after 9-11 and

1:05:22

it's something where veterans, you don't, I mean, they're

1:05:24

tough people. They don't, usually, you know, you don't

1:05:26

know what it takes for a veteran to wake

1:05:28

up in the morning to get up, go through

1:05:30

the day, go to bed at night, and you

1:05:32

don't always see, they're not always missing an arm

1:05:35

or a leg or an eye or something. You

1:05:37

know, they're just kind of very resilient people. Last

1:05:39

people to ask for help. The last people to

1:05:41

ask for help. And they're the

1:05:43

ones that in many cases need the help

1:05:45

and they get frustrated with the bureaucracy. They're like,

1:05:47

you know what, I'm out. So this is something I

1:05:50

think, once again, that's not partisan. Like, hey, let's take

1:05:52

care of our veterans. They fought for us.

1:05:54

We need to fight for them in all

1:05:56

things, you know, not just mental health is a big

1:05:59

part of it. But also just resources

1:06:01

and i'd say this too like my

1:06:03

generation is different than other generations We're

1:06:05

not going to the vfw. We're not

1:06:07

going to the american legion and talking

1:06:10

about fallujah and condahar like, you know

1:06:12

Our generation wants like I just want my meds Uh,

1:06:14

I want to take an uber there. I want to

1:06:17

get my meds and I want to go back and

1:06:19

get back on Youtube or netflix

1:06:21

or whatever, you know, I mean so just you

1:06:23

gotta tackle the problem different So are you saying

1:06:25

that the issue there is isolation? It's like there's

1:06:27

not as much community as there was maybe 20

1:06:29

30 years ago with today's veterans that are coming back from

1:06:31

these places 100 percent. I mean

1:06:34

you used to be in here you used to

1:06:36

be in part of something Yeah, and then all

1:06:38

of a sudden you're removed from that i'll give

1:06:40

you i'll give you a personal example So today's

1:06:42

today's lint I went I went uh, I went

1:06:44

to church earlier today And i'm

1:06:46

thinking what i'm gonna get what am I gonna give up for

1:06:48

lint right and I made the mistake last year I

1:06:50

gave up meat for lint and

1:06:52

i'm a huge meat eater, right? So I was like hold

1:06:55

that was the longest 40 days. You didn't think that totally

1:06:59

And so so this year i'm going all right,

1:07:01

what am I gonna give up, you know Is

1:07:03

it gonna be like something it may be a

1:07:05

little easier and I I couldn't I couldn't think

1:07:07

of it I'm walking going through all these different

1:07:09

things and the father I go to uh, st

1:07:11

Joseph's, uh off of capital hill on the senate

1:07:13

side when I was a senate suffer for marco

1:07:15

rubio That was that's that's the catholic church i'd

1:07:17

go to so even to this day. That's where

1:07:20

my son was baptized No way. Yeah, all right.

1:07:22

So I was there today i'm listening i'm listening

1:07:24

to the father and he goes not

1:07:26

everything's Not everything's about giving stuff up, right?

1:07:28

He goes it's also about adding to the equation

1:07:31

And so one of the things that he mentioned is

1:07:33

try to bring people in your life that have left

1:07:35

that are no longer there Well, my younger brother speaking

1:07:37

of veterans i'm tying this in my younger brother. I

1:07:39

hadn't talked to him in three years, man Ever

1:07:42

since I got into politics this this happens Sadly

1:07:45

a lot, you know, sometimes within your family you

1:07:47

have the division And so we

1:07:49

kind of haven't been talking for three years because

1:07:51

of politics And i'm not one of

1:07:53

those guys that eats breeds and sleeps politics, man.

1:07:55

That's you know Yeah, he strikes me as one

1:07:57

of the very few well-adjusted people When

1:08:01

I come home, I got six kids. When I

1:08:03

come home, it's like, hey, grab a kid and

1:08:05

get you a price. Jack Drake, you got politics.

1:08:08

I get that, thank you. So

1:08:12

I go, you know what? For Lynn, I'm going

1:08:14

to reach out to my younger brother, and we're

1:08:16

going to reconnect. And you'll like this,

1:08:18

too. I

1:08:21

got a bottle of, a friend had given me a

1:08:23

bottle of Pappy Van Winkle 20. Oh, man.

1:08:25

What a great way to reconnect. I'm not even a

1:08:27

big drinker, right? I'm

1:08:29

not a big drinker. My brother's a huge

1:08:31

bourbon guy, right? So I'm like, you know

1:08:33

what? Pappy is going to bring this family

1:08:35

back together. So I tie it in a

1:08:37

little bit of faith and everything else. But

1:08:39

that's kind of like the veterans that have,

1:08:41

they were part, he was a veteran, he

1:08:44

served in Iraq, they were a part of

1:08:46

something, you leave, and you got

1:08:48

to find a way to kind of reconnect. That's

1:08:50

so cool. That's a great way to look at

1:08:52

that, too, by the way. This guy gave up

1:08:54

Twitter for Lent. Oh, yeah. Think that's going to

1:08:57

last? I don't know. It's not like giving

1:09:00

up meat, it's like giving up head trauma. He

1:09:04

tweeted that and his dad, his actual dad

1:09:06

immediately replied, you're not even Catholic. I don't

1:09:08

know if the Vatican is going to arrest

1:09:10

me. You

1:09:12

got to lower your dead dunks on your own Twitter.

1:09:16

Yeah, that's great. It's great. My

1:09:18

dad's a character. Yeah, well played. I'm

1:09:21

glad to hear that. So listen, you

1:09:24

got all this stuff going, politics in the

1:09:27

backdrop of trying to do your day job,

1:09:29

obviously a big march ahead of you in

1:09:31

terms of the appropriations process and everything else.

1:09:36

How does that work out? Do we get through this

1:09:38

without any sort of like government shutdowns and things, or

1:09:40

do you think it's just going to be complicated? I

1:09:43

think we do. I think at

1:09:45

least part of the government, we've been working

1:09:47

really hard. I think something comes together on

1:09:49

that. And this is what I've been arguing

1:09:51

is, hey, look, we got a lot of

1:09:53

conservative wins in these approped spills on the

1:09:55

house. We worked very hard to

1:09:57

kind of get as much conservative wins as we possibly can.

1:10:00

We could take your W. Yeah, you

1:10:02

know, you're not gonna get everything take your win

1:10:04

Well, we got a one-seat majority. Yeah, exactly

1:10:06

Yeah, we just got our you know, we just

1:10:09

got our ass kicked in New York 3 here

1:10:11

Yeah, like take or your wins when you can

1:10:13

get your wind and then once again you come

1:10:15

back for the rest I think that happens of

1:10:17

the government shit there. Don't get me wrong. There's

1:10:19

a lot of people that want to see the

1:10:21

government shut down Yeah, and you don't want it's

1:10:23

an easy message to deliver to our base Yeah,

1:10:25

you know the spending's out of control all these

1:10:27

wool programs I get all that but you don't

1:10:30

the way you defeat them is you zero those

1:10:32

accounts out. Yeah, you put them on you don't

1:10:35

DHS all together you go you're not gonna

1:10:37

get money for soft-sided facilities, but you're gonna

1:10:40

get more money for bortac Yeah, those are

1:10:42

the guys that are you know, manhunting and

1:10:44

doing all kinds of different things It's

1:10:46

that level I think of work that we've done

1:10:48

on the House Appropriations Committee. Now, let's go get

1:10:51

these wins Yeah, I mean, it's good message I

1:10:53

hope you can sell it because I I agree

1:10:55

I think a good conservative win where you can

1:10:57

take it where you have a one seat majority

1:10:59

Yeah, and a minority position in the

1:11:01

Senate and obviously the White House You

1:11:04

guys do what you got to do and not give

1:11:06

them a weapon to hit over your head in the

1:11:08

process That's right in addition that probably helps your people.

1:11:10

Yeah, right. I mean, these are the people who need

1:11:12

it most That's exactly right. I can't go home and

1:11:14

be like well, we decided to shut down because it

1:11:16

wouldn't give us everything we wanted exactly Exactly. How do

1:11:19

you think we're gonna keep these seats? Yeah, somebody has

1:11:21

to be able to go not only to identify the

1:11:23

problem But we've done at least one two things to

1:11:25

fix it. Right that we've built all that out in

1:11:27

the approach bills Yeah, we just got to get them

1:11:29

over the finish line. Yeah. Well,

1:11:31

listen Tony. It's refreshing to hear somebody

1:11:33

who's actually We'll take a

1:11:35

win There's

1:11:38

I mean you look left right and center you get

1:11:40

a lot of crazy stuff in politics He's good It

1:11:42

seems to me like anybody who spent the

1:11:44

kind of time that you have on the ground You

1:11:47

have no other choice but to try to do

1:11:49

everything you can do to provide some solutions That's

1:11:51

it and you can't back we can't back down

1:11:53

There's too much at stake and we got to

1:11:55

hold people accountable our own side their side You

1:11:58

just got to hold people accountable and Keep fighting. It's

1:12:00

the minute we just go. Oh, this is the

1:12:02

new norm. That's what I've been pushing on the

1:12:04

border This cannot be the new norm when that

1:12:06

reporter goes. Oh, the numbers are down. I'm like

1:12:10

7,000 last day and you're you're trying to

1:12:12

get yourself on the back. Oh, give me

1:12:14

good news Yeah, he's

1:12:16

like oh man, you can just see his

1:12:18

world deflated. It's like here's the deal man

1:12:20

We this this goes away when you keep

1:12:22

pushing for it But you know what man?

1:12:24

I will say there's a lot of there's

1:12:27

a lot of good solid members on the

1:12:29

hill that truly want to find solutions and

1:12:31

deliver It's just the politics gets in the way

1:12:33

and you got to have people bold enough to

1:12:35

be able to go no No, no, no, we're

1:12:37

not we're not this nothing squishy

1:12:39

about this that or the others like we're delivering

1:12:42

Conservative wins we take a little bit

1:12:44

at a time. Yeah. Yeah, no question

1:12:46

brass tax politics a lot of

1:12:48

discussion over the last four years about Your

1:12:51

region of texas in particular and kind of

1:12:53

a changing political environment How

1:12:57

do you think that all breaks down in the context

1:13:00

of 2024 I mean clearly the border is Issue

1:13:03

a1a I imagine there's economic

1:13:05

issues Associated with all

1:13:07

of that and then just larger You

1:13:10

think like does trump trump win your district? You think

1:13:12

in 24? Yeah. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt He won.

1:13:15

He won. He won the last time. It was close.

1:13:17

I think a little over 1% It's

1:13:19

right on that razor's edge where you gotta ask,

1:13:21

you know, yeah, it really is it really is

1:13:23

but uh, my district's over 70 Hispanic, so I

1:13:28

I can it's mexican american I mean it's important

1:13:30

to to know like the different porta ricans are

1:13:32

different Cubans and I mean just everyone's different in

1:13:34

there amazing how the left just sure Throws

1:13:36

you all in there. You're all latin x I've

1:13:41

never heard that before but okay, it's not

1:13:43

spanish. They're all the same So

1:13:46

yeah, exactly, but this is the interesting part and

1:13:48

this is what i've been telling folks is Latinos

1:13:51

are all over the country and they're not

1:13:53

where we're yeah, we're talking about Texas

1:13:56

and you know southern florida new

1:13:58

york and california But

1:14:00

now they're they're everywhere man. Yeah, they're absolutely everywhere

1:14:03

and this is I think a block We

1:14:05

can win places that you don't expect if we

1:14:07

just that'll be the margin that gets you over

1:14:09

the finish line And you know what we don't

1:14:11

have to change a damn thing You just tell

1:14:13

them this is what we stand go compete. We

1:14:16

go compete and you show up Yes,

1:14:18

that's how we win over and over again.

1:14:20

You show up the other side ain't gonna

1:14:22

show up No, the other they've gotten so

1:14:24

crazy on the other side people are going

1:14:26

like hey, man Yeah, that's I mean up,

1:14:28

you know I'm a lifelong Democrat,

1:14:31

but that's insane So

1:14:33

I think I think well and that's the

1:14:35

thing right in these multi-generational communities that you're

1:14:38

talking about There has

1:14:40

been a history of voting Democrats. Yes you

1:14:42

do Yeah, and now you know because of

1:14:44

being a multi-generational community you look at it

1:14:46

and you're like Doesn't

1:14:49

seem like those guys are totally representative Biden

1:14:53

right, you know he stumbles over, you

1:14:56

know two sentences and you're like, yeah, no, I'm

1:14:58

out This guy ain't exactly doing I

1:15:03

mean it is incredible to me that they just

1:15:05

sort of take this vote for granted over and

1:15:07

over again But I think because of guys like

1:15:09

you There has been not

1:15:11

only progress made on educating people on the issues

1:15:14

but showing up You gotta show showing up and

1:15:16

competing for the vote. That's it and changing these

1:15:18

communities as a result Yeah, I think I think

1:15:20

it's gonna be really exciting I think you're gonna

1:15:23

see the next generation of conservatives come on board

1:15:25

and it has nothing to do with where you

1:15:27

from or Background it has everything

1:15:29

of what you know shocker goes back to

1:15:31

our principles We're in what we stand for

1:15:34

and delivering and all that. So I'm really

1:15:36

I'm really Excited about

1:15:38

the future of kind of where things

1:15:40

timeless stuff Listen if our

1:15:42

listeners want to help you out obviously

1:15:45

because of the critical role you play

1:15:47

in serving up

1:15:49

conservative victories where you can get it it

1:15:51

makes you a target and That's

1:15:54

in the political arena something you got to fight back

1:15:56

against and so our listeners have always been interested in

1:15:58

that if they want to Help you out where

1:16:00

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1:16:04

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We try to give real things what's

1:16:11

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1:16:14

and lies and everything gets spun

1:16:18

and we try to give people the ground

1:16:20

truth. You know these videos that we're showing

1:16:22

of real people on the ground, what's happening

1:16:24

and we're just gonna keep doing that. We're

1:16:26

not gonna push back. Right, left,

1:16:28

center. I love this country man. I've

1:16:31

always served this country. I always serve this

1:16:34

country to my very last breath and I

1:16:36

think we need more of that that just

1:16:38

aren't afraid. Like aren't afraid to win. You're

1:16:41

not afraid to win. A lot of people in

1:16:44

this town, they just don't want to lose.

1:16:46

It's not about losing. It's like you cannot

1:16:48

be afraid to win. Take a win when

1:16:50

you can get a win. Yeah, that's very

1:16:52

well said. At some point

1:16:55

maybe enough people contribute where you can get duck

1:16:57

boats down there at the border. Thank you so

1:16:59

much. Really appreciate it. Thanks,

1:17:07

brother. It's

1:17:10

impossible not to like

1:17:12

this guy. He is thoughtful.

1:17:15

He served our

1:17:17

military in the Navy for 20 years.

1:17:19

He was highly decorated by the way.

1:17:21

Iraq, Afghanistan. I mean

1:17:24

you notice he never talks about that. Yeah. Like

1:17:26

he had a kind of pride out of him with

1:17:28

his work on behalf of vets because he's not like

1:17:30

the kind of guy that just goes around talking about

1:17:33

his service. Like he just sees it

1:17:35

as part of his personality. I mean

1:17:37

it's just to know guys like

1:17:39

this and all of you are listening you know

1:17:41

somebody like this. But it's just like one of

1:17:43

those service-oriented people

1:17:45

just wants to help people. This

1:17:48

is one of those guys. I just

1:17:50

have total respect for him. I think he's really really good

1:17:52

at what he does. I think more

1:17:54

people ought to listen to people like him and he's also the

1:17:57

guy who's standing like in the abs

1:17:59

right now. There. Yeah. Worst

1:18:02

possible place for what

1:18:04

we've seen on our southern border. Yeah.

1:18:07

Everybody watches and follows Bill Milugin

1:18:09

at Eagle Pass. Yeah. And

1:18:12

he's the Congressman for...he's basically Bill

1:18:14

Milugin's Congressman now. Yeah. Seriously.

1:18:17

Yeah. I mean, I guarantee you

1:18:19

that they are very close at this point, having...I

1:18:21

mean, he's everywhere. Anytime there's anything,

1:18:23

he's there in the district, spends a lot of time

1:18:25

doing it, and that's how you get that perspective. Yeah.

1:18:28

And it's a tough district, and it's one of

1:18:30

those that really is a majority maker. Yeah. You

1:18:32

know, so go to his website, chip

1:18:34

in, get involved. Yeah, help him out. These

1:18:36

are the races that matter the most. I

1:18:38

think the stuff he was saying about veterans,

1:18:40

it's very, very, very important. Yep. And

1:18:43

especially the stuff about these veterans who've come home

1:18:45

from Afghanistan and Iraq and are like isolated. Yep.

1:18:47

You know, it's important stuff. Guys in it for

1:18:49

the right reasons. Go to his website. Help him

1:18:52

if you can. With

1:18:54

all that, it's been a hell of a week. I imagine

1:18:56

next week we'll agree this was something similar, and off

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we go, but I think we've done it. I

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think so. Absolute banger of

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an episode, gentlemen. Again, thank you

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so much, Representative Gonzalez, for bringing your insight to

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the show. And thank you

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