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Only in theaters are proof. Greetings

2:36

and welcome back to Sacred Symbols a PlayStation podcast.

2:39

This is episode number 299. We're

2:42

on the precipice. My

2:44

name is Colin Moriarty. I'm joined as always by my son Chris

2:46

Reagan. Chris, welcome back. You weren't here last week. Yeah.

2:48

People wondered where you might have gone. Yeah,

2:51

yeah. How's everything going? It's

2:53

going okay. I was gallivanting

2:56

through the streets. I

2:59

was doing some medical stuff. Nothing

3:02

to worry about. But you know, just got

3:04

to keep on track. It's

3:06

easy to forget. I went years without

3:09

just going to basic doctor's appointments

3:11

because I just would forget for

3:13

years. I went like three and

3:15

a half years without going to the dentist and I was like, oh,

3:18

I should probably just do that.

3:21

Yeah. Yeah, I'm very fastidious

3:23

about the dentist going twice a

3:25

year. I don't know. When you're a little

3:27

kid, you go and get a physical every

3:29

year, but that's really for school. I don't

3:32

know if you need to have a physical. So I had

3:34

a physical a few years ago and it was all fine.

3:36

And they looked at all my stuff, my eyes and all

3:38

that kind of stuff. But I

3:41

got to get back there as well. Mike has been encouraging me

3:43

to go get my checkup. Who knows what's wrong with me at

3:46

this point? Yeah, you never know. Yeah. I

3:48

had skin cancer on my face for several years before anyone identified

3:50

it as skin cancer. So

3:53

I just thought it was like a small mole or something. But

3:57

they're like, no, that's skin cancer. That's got to go. I can't

3:59

do this. Well, I'm glad you're okay for

4:01

now. Yeah Dustin

4:03

Furman Executive producer welcome to the

4:05

show. How are you today? Fantastic? I'm

4:08

drinking Technically kind

4:10

of a gift from you. This is

4:12

the rush flavor G fuel, right? That

4:14

uh, cuz Micah got you the cup but you didn't want

4:17

you didn't want the gamer fuel No, I don't know what

4:19

I don't understand. What what is what? What is is it?

4:21

What is it? like

4:24

Gatorade No, it's

4:27

basically just caffeinated Kool-Aid really that's

4:29

about all it is Sounds

4:32

fucking diabolical and it's for gamers

4:35

That's how it's branded. I mean they put

4:37

gaming stuff on it to get right to

4:39

get morons I mean you would that cup

4:41

is amazing the rush cup. I

4:44

have a persona 3 reload cup

4:47

Pre-ordered from them. I don't buy

4:49

a lot of stuff. Obviously, this is not sponsored

4:51

But uh, you know the rush G

4:53

fuel. It's just weird to me. It just

4:55

weirds to me that it's just weird to

4:57

me that So

4:59

Mike about the very kind Yeah Like it's like a

5:01

cup kind of like that a little taller and it's

5:04

like got a red top and it's Russian Mega Man

5:06

and Russia is mostly on colored so that when you

5:08

put that stuff in it He appears

5:10

to be the red color he is But

5:12

it's weird to me to cut for something like so unhealthy to

5:14

come in a cup like that cuz that's usually like a workout

5:17

Supplement thing right? Right.

5:20

Well, I It's

5:22

not necessarily unhealthy. Well, you call

5:24

the Kool-Aid didn't you? Yes,

5:26

but it's not like sugar No, it

5:28

doesn't it has like fake sugar in it. So

5:30

it's arguably that's bad for you, but it's zero

5:32

I think it's maybe not zero but like 30

5:34

calories Per serving you

5:36

don't really know what you're talking about. Do you? Oh, I

5:38

do know that's 30. You don't know No,

5:41

the point is that some people say the fake

5:43

sugar will kill you right

5:45

up But if it kills me I

5:47

say so be it have

5:50

five diet cokes in a day I don't give a

5:52

fuck. That's how I go That's

5:55

fine. How you sleeping? Not

5:58

bad still kind of going I'm going to

6:00

bed early and waking up early. I

6:03

don't know, something's changed in me,

6:05

I guess. It's not like incredibly early,

6:07

maybe 11.30 midnight. Waking

6:10

up at about eight. That's

6:13

pretty nice. That's normal. That's good.

6:16

I had to bed at four last night. Oh. So

6:18

there's that. I was tossing and turning and reading. I don't know what I

6:20

was doing last night. Oh, fuck no. Well, it's good to

6:22

be here with you guys today. We're on the precipice, my friends. Yeah, it's a good idea.

6:25

I'm not going to be here with you guys today. I'm not going to be here with you guys today.

6:27

I'm not going to be here with you guys today. We're on the precipice, my friends. Yeah.

6:30

We're recording this. This goes live for Patreon, but

6:32

by the time this goes live on

6:34

Free Feeds, episode 300 celebration,

6:37

live show celebration, will already happen. Now, let me

6:39

ask you this, Dustin. Yeah. The

6:41

question for you. You were saying, so

6:44

the next episode

6:46

of the show is going to be a regular episode? Correct.

6:49

That's 300. That's... but

6:51

you have enough time, don't you, to get that video

6:54

out if you worked 30 to 40 hours in those

6:56

three days? Technically,

6:59

some things are theoretically possible, yes.

7:01

But this time, the

7:03

footage is getting mailed to me afterwards. Cool. So,

7:07

no, the thing with Sacred

7:09

200 was the... particularly, we

7:11

had ad spots on that that needed

7:14

to be fulfilled. So

7:16

between traveling back and forth to

7:19

Richmond, I pulled an

7:21

all nighter on that one. Yeah, I'm only busting

7:23

balls, really. I know, I know. I

7:26

think it's kind of cool that we've separated them so that

7:28

this will just be some sort of celebratory event. It's sold

7:30

out. We're excited for everyone to be there. I'm going to

7:32

have quite a few... So

7:35

your parents are going, right, Dustin? My dad

7:37

is. Your dad's going? Oh, okay. Cool.

7:41

And then, what's your... Chris, do we comp you on any tickets for

7:43

your people or are you having anyone at the show or...? Yeah,

7:45

I got a friend of mine going. This is somebody I've lived with for

7:47

a long time, who's back in New York now. Great.

7:50

I have... Let's see.

7:52

My dad and my stepmom, my

7:55

mom and my stepdad. PJ,

7:58

my brother's best friend and his wife. And

8:01

then my GI Joe Constagliari, Mike Pateli

8:03

and his wife. So I have

8:05

eight people coming. Who

8:08

we've sold those tickets? Yes. Did my mom spring

8:10

on me that she wanted to come late? Pretty late? Yes.

8:16

Am I gonna make fun of my dad? Oh

8:20

yeah, yeah, it's gonna be good. I'm

8:22

really excited about it. Do a little stand-up

8:24

beforehand and not

8:26

really stand-up, but it kind of turns into that. I don't really think I

8:28

just kind of walk around the stage and

8:31

just kind of stream of consciousness for

8:33

a few minutes and then that won't be the whole show though. I guarantee

8:35

you in fact None of us know

8:37

what's happening. The three of us have no idea what's going on. Everyone

8:39

else knows, but I don't know. Yeah,

8:43

I feel strange about that. It's

8:45

a strange anxiety in like

8:48

oh, there's you're gonna be this it's a live event

8:50

and you have no fucking idea what

8:52

is going to happen. It feels concerning

8:55

to me. Well, I'm like, all right. Yeah,

8:58

it's in some ways. In

9:00

some ways, Chris, though, it's less stressful for me. Like it's like If

9:04

someone else fucked it up, we just blame Ben. Yeah.

9:08

And Brad. And Brad. Yeah. Ben's

9:11

easier though to blame. He's been with us longer, Brad. We

9:14

probably have to give him a few mistakes first. Sure.

9:17

So I can't just throw him under the bus right away. But

9:19

I think we're yeah, it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be like

9:21

a little bit of a like a quiz show, a roast sort

9:23

of thing I think and I don't know what's gonna happen. It's

9:25

gonna be fun. I'm excited about it. So

9:29

thank you all out there for agreeing

9:31

to come see us. You're agreeing. Agreeing.

9:35

Yeah, we are agreeing. And then so

9:37

yeah next week we'll have a regular

9:39

episode 300, which we didn't have a

9:41

regular episode 200. I don't

9:44

know episode 100. I don't even think we did anything

9:46

for really. I don't

9:48

think that was probably during the video or the

9:50

audio only days actually episode 100. Yeah. Yeah,

9:53

that would have been right. 2020 we

9:55

can Start doing video till 2021 for some

9:57

reason though. I Used to still publish all. The

10:00

audio just the you tube and for some reason like ten thousand

10:02

people are we would watch it. Was

10:05

like it was like a slow moving Dvd. I

10:07

can. Be. Used as a and

10:09

then certain uses a thing as the thumbnail.

10:12

People. Just like on there. for some reason you know,

10:14

like they always allies if. I ever know

10:16

that allows people to have. it's just like playing

10:18

in the background me a while there do other

10:20

stuff anyway. many of you i think out of

10:22

this is like a standard you tube feature now

10:24

but it it used to be premium. I don't

10:27

know if it's changed because I have just been

10:29

on youtube premium for ever. Ah but you can

10:31

have like be audio of videos playing. When.

10:33

You said the screen off. Media.

10:35

It's know out in I did bauer. I have

10:37

Premium as I. I've always so confused about people

10:40

that don't. Like. You to Premiums

10:42

made fun of on our duty premium Change my

10:44

life. basically. I mean. You

10:47

tube is so good when you don't have

10:49

to have any ads. And I said before,

10:51

like maker. Has. Or doesn't wanna

10:53

pay your doesn't want to pay for that are episode watch

10:55

she are some things on there and my how do you

10:57

deal with this. Actually, idea, how do

10:59

you deal with this sneer? I got a

11:01

friend's houses and as it or put up

11:03

though, put up youtube videos every I tell

11:05

us this and then there's some unstoppable ad

11:08

for some said that I've never seen front

11:10

of my own. A: how are you can

11:12

possibly bob with this. This. Is it's

11:14

so How do we lose? risk? We

11:16

may have lice chris. Was a

11:18

bounce back. Always, you're still here, is still there

11:20

are. I can see the thought. He

11:25

likes You went into like the next dimension and then

11:27

you came back. That he

11:30

slipped. I or that whole thing

11:32

is I who as let's turn tiger out smokers once

11:34

in awhile I don't know if you guys have noticed

11:36

is it might happen to me when you're listening to

11:38

me to is like. Zen. Cassar does

11:40

a thing once in a blue moon where it'll I

11:42

kind of like. The. Of

11:44

space out for a minute. And huge and

11:46

of hope. That. He comes

11:49

back in a few seconds and he usually

11:51

does and so I the presents. It's all

11:53

recorded into your cat local cache. Someone.

11:55

Is going for you. It doesn't matter. Yeah,

11:57

right. arm. But. That was. little

12:00

bit longer than the usual, you

12:02

know, I wonder what happened. Yeah, maybe

12:04

there's an EMP going off. God willing,

12:07

dude. Save us. God

12:11

willing. Please. Please

12:14

China, just take the United States already and just put us out of

12:16

our mission. I'm not going to live under any communists, but at least

12:18

I'll die, you know, fighting

12:20

for glory. Welcome

12:24

to Sacred Symbols PlayStation podcast episode 299. We're

12:28

on the precipice as I said of our, I'm saying that word a lot. Out of

12:30

our 300th episode. Very exciting. So it's

12:33

Thursday recording. This goes live Friday. Chris, are you

12:35

leaving on Saturday? Yeah,

12:37

I believe so. I believe my flight is really, really, really

12:40

early Saturday morning. Oh,

12:42

okay. It's over here. I'll get there. I

12:44

had like a reason. I'll get there in the afternoon.

12:46

Yeah. Because you'll jump forward. Yeah.

12:49

It'll be eight or nine hours by the time you land. And then

12:51

Dustin, you're driving and you're probably leaving

12:54

tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow afternoon

12:56

is when we're leaving. So getting

12:59

ready for that. Hey, listen to this, Chris. On

13:02

the way, we're going to stop right

13:04

in New Jersey, right across the river.

13:07

There's an Asian grocery store, like a

13:09

market inside the

13:12

One Piece Card Game store. So

13:15

making a special trip there. I

13:17

think I'm going to buy a booster box when I'm there.

13:19

They're like a whole box of cards.

13:22

I really just wonder if- You're living on the edge

13:25

there. Yeah. You

13:27

and Chad Lee? Me and Chad Lee? Yeah.

13:33

Don't mention Chad Lee again. It's just so

13:35

divisive. We think you play it, dude.

13:38

You're going to want to, you're going to join the

13:40

ranks of the Chad Lee. I'm sure I will. He

13:42

already annoys me in remakes and he's barely

13:44

in it. It's so much worse. I know. Because

13:47

he's like, I don't know what he's doing, but he's got

13:49

the glasses and he's got the annoying voice. He's got like

13:52

the young man gray hair Kind

13:54

of situation going on. It's one of

13:56

the most disheartening things about Rebirth to

13:58

Maze because I Really-? I

14:00

he really hated have so deeply that

14:02

I stopped playing for like a really

14:05

large. That said, it wasn't even that

14:07

it was like egregiously annoying, it was

14:09

just it was just annoying enough. In

14:12

an experience that was otherwise completely

14:14

good, And as examples if the

14:17

rest of the game was as annoying as sadly I

14:19

would always be like out as well as opposed to

14:21

be. Selling. A dozen rail and gamers

14:23

like the whole point is that it's was be annoying. As.

14:25

Like our and that was, I wouldn't have. Like.

14:28

Of them life who the shooter at solving

14:30

hi online and yeah yeah I agree I

14:32

am but he's probably still there anywhere and

14:35

for to ask Leah. I'm

14:37

still here. I'm just will dicey connection to them

14:39

as a a print screen here. I'm

14:41

still not familiar say now he's mad cuz

14:43

he can probably hear us I am I

14:46

be talking over each other for all we

14:48

know the you're right, you're only as him

14:50

and. You're. Totally right. For.

14:53

Us: Where are you there? Bob. Of

14:56

the I was very much still. Here are we had

14:58

a technical staff who we really did lose chris there

15:00

but he he could see us and. Yeah

15:03

we really know some fun this

15:05

some fun audio they're probably go.

15:08

To. Mess around with we're I don't are.

15:11

I don't know what's going on. But. Will continue onward.

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15:49

the show on the weekly thread in the new seed

15:51

i go through those inquiries and then pull them out

15:54

he says hi guys please read and diggins you to

15:56

voice or gets hi guys he doesn't do that anymore

15:58

really doubt used to be his a his

16:00

big thing because he had a teenage well

16:02

he still has a teenage daughter but I think that they were watching a

16:04

lot of that kind of YouTube stuff. No

16:07

real question. We just wanted to come. What?

16:10

I'm sorry. The thing used to be hi guys. Yeah.

16:13

Well, I think like he would say hi

16:15

guys in that feminine. Yeah.

16:19

And I got this funny. It's funny to

16:21

see it written that way. Fair

16:23

enough. Kyle says

16:25

no real question this week. Just wanted to comment on my experience

16:28

jumping back up to the $10 a month. Patreon

16:30

tier for the Q&A. So $10

16:32

a month on Patreon. It's all that stuff that the $5

16:34

here plus you get a monthly Q&A with me. You

16:37

can ask me anything you want. Goes for hours usually and then you

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get your name in the credits. The higher tiers as

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well. I had forgotten now how enjoyable they are. So

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I downloaded the last 12 or so I must say

16:46

the saga of you slowly and surely digging yourself from

16:48

being behind schedule had me feeling some satisfaction when it

16:50

seems as though that goal has now been met. What

16:53

an end to a long and winding journey. Anyways, think sure

16:55

the best value $10 a month can buy. I started

16:57

falling behind on my monthly Q&A's and

17:00

I think we have such a nice audience because I have so many

17:02

things to do where I'm like I know I could have just been

17:04

like listen. I'll just combine the

17:06

Q&A's and we'll do like a big mega Q&A and

17:08

just get caught up. But I'm

17:11

too like autistic

17:13

probably for that. So what ended up happening instead

17:15

was I was like we're just going to go month

17:17

by month and I'm going to start truncating everything so

17:20

that we're doing them at a slightly quicker clip. And

17:23

then so I was like two months behind and now

17:25

I'm totally caught up and I did it the right way. For the

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audience, for me, total satisfaction. Why

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don't you send satisfaction guaranteed? Because if

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you really don't like the content, I'll give you

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your money back. I refund people once in

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a blue moon. You don't want to give me your

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money. You don't. That's fine. Go

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spend it on something else. You know I saw I

17:44

was at the where was I? I was

17:46

at CBS in Boston the other day and they had the

17:48

little donuts. And I was

17:51

like damn those look really good. You can go spend your

17:53

money on that. It's pretty good value for your bank

17:55

for your buck, especially the powdered donuts. Kyle,

17:58

thank you for writing in. One

18:00

of the perks over on Patreon as well as Sacred Symbols Plus are

18:03

once weekly supplement to the show where we do

18:05

deep dives, interviews, and so on

18:07

and so forth. I

18:10

had Jez, Gordon on, Xbox, content creator, journalist,

18:12

and so on. People really like that episode.

18:14

That episode will go free for everyone. So

18:17

you can look forward to that as well. We

18:20

sat down, the three of us plus Ben, our

18:22

associate producer, and did a two plus hour, I

18:24

think, conversation about Helldivers 2. I think I called

18:26

it Helldivers 2, the final word for now

18:28

or something like that, or the last word for now. And

18:31

we just get into the game, what

18:34

we love about it, what we're doing with it, what our experiences with

18:36

it had been. I think that's going to be really great. So that'll

18:38

go live this weekend or already be live if

18:40

this is on free feeds. You can check it out on Patreon. I

18:43

had Cliffy Beyond recently. I had Jonathan Blow on recently.

18:45

We did a Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. Deep

18:47

dive. We'll do another one once we all have played it

18:49

all the way through. However, on

18:52

the Jez conversation, something came up and I wanted to

18:54

clarify it. Josiah wrote in and said, hi, Colin. I

18:56

was wondering if you could clarify some math you've referenced

18:58

a few times. Most recently in your

19:00

conversation with Jez, when discussing how much Microsoft

19:02

would make on a $20 game sold on the PlayStation

19:04

Store, you took the 30% platform holder rip off the

19:06

top leaving $14. But then you

19:08

said that $6 Sony makes as a platform holder

19:11

needs to be subtracted again from the profits Microsoft makes

19:13

leaving $8. Not quite following the

19:15

logic behind doubly subtracting the percentage cut simply because it's

19:17

a competitor taking that rip and was hoping you could

19:19

elaborate. Congrats on $300. I won't be at the

19:21

New York event in person, but it will be there in spirit. Cheers to

19:23

$300 more. I think we could do $300 more. We'll

19:26

see what happens. So

19:32

six years from now, it's going to look really different again,

19:34

PlayStation, which would be cool if we're still

19:36

doing the show at that point. So here's the

19:38

argument and some people were, so we

19:40

were talking about a pentiment $20. So

19:44

$14 would be Microsoft's

19:46

cut of that. However, I was saying this

19:48

Josiah in the context of the famous Phil

19:50

Spencer quote of saying Sony

19:52

takes 30% of the

19:54

games we sell on their platforms and uses it to foreclose

19:57

on us. And so if that's

19:59

the way they really feel. then you really

20:01

need to negate that money leaving and it's

20:04

so it's not literally gonna be shown in the books

20:06

it's just a philosophical argument about like well these

20:08

two things cancel each other out if you believe Phil Spencer's

20:11

words about how he thinks that they do that with their

20:13

30% of course you could believe that Phil Spencer

20:15

talks out of both sides of his mouth but

20:18

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Martin wrote in, said, Hello, LSM team. Wanted

23:46

to share an LSM moment with you. I was

23:49

walking through the commissary. Think Army grocery

23:51

store. I'm not that stupid.

23:54

Yeah. Come on. On

23:56

Fort Leavenworth wearing my fantastic new sacred symbols hoodie,

23:58

I heard a voice yell, Since

24:01

stand down is a military term and I was on a military

24:03

base, it took me a moment to realize it was another member

24:05

of the growing LSM Army. My fellow Sacred

24:07

Symbols, Leavenworth Chapter member, it was great to see a

24:09

fellow traveler. Sacred Symbols is infiltrating the ranks of the

24:11

military, Colin. We need to give you some rank. I

24:13

would love that. I've said in the past that I

24:15

was told by people that were in the military, like my friends, that

24:19

because I have a college degree, I guess, I'm

24:21

too old to join the military now, but because I

24:23

have a bachelor's degree that I would actually, if I

24:25

joined the military, oh, there you go. You got your

24:28

hat. My dad's a veteran too. Yeah. My

24:30

dad was in the Air Force. Your dad was in the Army.

24:34

And so I was

24:36

like, well, I would be... So

24:38

instead of starting like private first class or whatever you start at,

24:41

I would start at like some slightly

24:43

higher position. And

24:45

so with that in mind, feel free to

24:47

give me any battalion

24:50

commander, perhaps, something

24:52

like that. Chief? I

24:55

don't even really know what that is, but

24:57

it is a position. Do you

24:59

think trophy rank should come into play when deciding

25:02

your rank? I could. I mean, if

25:04

that's at all. That'd be insane. I'll just

25:06

be like a lieutenant. Just

25:09

put me somewhere in like the

25:11

Lieutenant column where you're already. I

25:14

like that it's just make me a lieutenant. It's

25:17

just a lieutenant. Lieutenant's at insanely...

25:19

I feel like that's a very high rank. It is

25:21

a high rank. It's

25:24

funny because I always wonder, you guys have

25:26

noticed this, Shirley, they say left tenant in

25:29

British English, like left tenant. I don't like that. What

25:31

are they doing there? How

25:34

do you get that out of that? This is what I'm

25:36

talking about about the British. What are

25:39

they doing? Yeah, they're problematic

25:41

people. Yeah, they're really in

25:43

some sort of way right now. Yeah.

25:47

All right. Let's

25:50

get into some things to talk about here. What

25:54

is this here? Oh, Salt and Alaska wrote in. It

25:57

said good day, gentlemen. In the past week, two

25:59

users... came to me asking for help since I work in IT. I

26:02

had either sacred symbols or constellation playing in my earbuds on those

26:04

two, and those two users backed away thinking I was in the

26:06

middle of a meeting. So not only does

26:08

LSM provide many hours of great content, but

26:11

you guys also keep the users away and have them open a ticket

26:13

the way they're supposed to. So for that, I would like to thank

26:15

you all. That's awesome. I

26:18

was friendly with the IT people at IGN

26:20

and people really are annoying with

26:23

that shit. You know? Yeah.

26:25

Just things breaking and,

26:27

but boy, when I quit, they came and collected

26:29

my shit too sweet. I'll tell

26:31

you that much. They were all over that. They

26:34

didn't want me to have any of that stuff. Like,

26:36

all right, cool. I don't want my ancient

26:38

tower, huh? Well, yeah. I did freelance

26:41

IT work for a bit. It was

26:43

horrible. I had to go install Windows

26:45

updates overnight at a

26:47

place. And it's

26:50

so oddly specific, but it was the plant

26:52

in Pittsburgh that makes that the

26:55

Poo-Pourri spray. Oh!

26:58

It smelled so strong of

27:00

the Poo-Pourri that there

27:02

was some, like, as you walk around the office, because there

27:04

was a facility, like, right in the same building, but kind

27:07

of next to the office, certain places

27:09

you walked, you get blasted by Poo-Pourri. And

27:12

dude, here's another thing too about working IT. Some

27:15

of these people at their desks

27:17

are filthy. Some of these keyboards,

27:20

the desks, you

27:22

can see them glistening. It's like they're

27:24

like a glazed donut or something, but

27:26

it's their entire keyboard and mouse of

27:28

just, like, slime. It's like a toddler

27:31

used them. So it was

27:33

good money, but I'm

27:35

good on Windows updates. I think we've

27:38

got enough here. The Poo-Pourri family fortune.

27:40

Yeah. I don't understand how

27:43

people let their keyboards get so filthy. I

27:46

really can't comprehend it. The

27:50

thing I always wonder is that, because

27:52

this happens with game controllers too, people eating,

27:55

like, greasy chips and

27:57

then just immediately touching their controller. Yeah.

28:00

I can't stand that. I've known people

28:02

that do that. That's wild. Yeah. It's like why

28:04

would... That is... It's not even

28:06

for the controllers. I take good care of my things.

28:08

I've always done that. I've always really been very... I

28:11

want to like... If I buy something... Like I

28:13

still use a Bose Bluetooth speaker from literally 15

28:16

years ago. Like legit. I

28:18

think it's the Bose Whatever Mark II.

28:21

Like, you know, like whatever. Like the

28:23

second one they ever made. And

28:26

it works great, you know. So I like the take

28:28

care of my stuff, but it's just the feeling. Like

28:31

when you know like your hands are dirty

28:33

and then it's like you're not getting the... I

28:36

don't know, man. People are gross out

28:38

there. Like I'm surprised by how latently

28:42

dirty things get over time in my life. And

28:45

I consider myself a pretty clean person. Like you'll

28:47

start to develop like a little bit of smudge

28:49

or gook in your controller like crevice. You

28:51

can get like a toothpick and just kind of pick it out. It's

28:54

like, oh, where the hell did this come from? So

28:56

imagine how bad it is for the Dorito eater, you

28:59

know? Yeah. Or the Smart

29:01

Food White Cheddar Popcorn person

29:03

who doesn't even bother to

29:06

wipe their hands at all. It's crazy.

29:08

Like it really blows my

29:10

mind that people just don't have an instinctual... Just

29:14

some instinctual urge to just

29:17

clean their controllers in general. Like while I'm

29:19

just waiting for something to load up sometimes,

29:22

I'll just like run like a card

29:25

or like a piece of paper like through like the seam

29:27

of the controller.

29:30

You know what I mean? Just for... Just

29:33

to kill some time at the very

29:35

least. So like to me, when

29:37

you see people where it's like it's like caked,

29:39

like when you lay down tile, the

29:45

shit that's in between, I can't remember what it's called, exact

29:47

cough. Yeah, what is that? A grout? Grout?

29:50

Yeah. It's like they grout their

29:52

controllers up with fucking drunk.

29:55

And it's like, why aren't you? Why

29:58

Doesn't this embarrass you? The teams. In

30:01

Las Vegas self sustaining you give me give

30:03

you specific as brave as if you could

30:05

shrink yourself to the size of like an

30:07

aunt or something. you could breathe and the

30:09

controller in space been so vacuum sealed from

30:11

all the fucking skunk. I

30:14

will say this that I, I, I only observe this

30:16

and last week. Is that?

30:19

And doesn't I wonder if you. Noticed.

30:22

This or if you get depends on how old

30:24

you controller my ring. My. Wedding

30:26

ring is and carving a groove and

30:28

my two cents controller. Like.

30:31

It literally is like it's You know, like how it's.

30:34

At all hundred on the back. It's.

30:36

Literally just totally smooth.

30:39

And starting a later named and. Where.

30:42

Where I hold on that side and it all depends on

30:44

how you to hold your controller? I yes, but. I.

30:46

Didn't notice it so now because it's smooth or

30:48

my constantly singer yeah basically you know like oh

30:50

we're not like during during like a cut scene

30:52

of yours like rubbing my finger on the little

30:54

nibble that I may I put their yeah. So.

30:57

You'll awkward. Yeah, I don't I don't.

30:59

my door sense up here. These are to shock for

31:01

is that I used. The. Entire time

31:03

I was married. These don't have a mark. Brown.

31:06

About a dozen, maybe. I'm

31:08

not are important. Very interesting. Has only been a few

31:10

months. Oh, it's it's it's. definitely the way I hold

31:12

the controller. Yeah. And. I

31:14

never won. Last insect my neighbor was like oh,

31:16

how's married life and I'm like, honestly, wearing a

31:18

ring has been the most unusual part of being

31:20

married. Because. I just never,

31:22

once, I ever. Would. Even

31:25

think to wearing. Yeah.

31:28

But. Now it's fucking up my controllers Great bet

31:31

as I like a fat is. That.

31:33

Is a such a fascinating thing? Because.

31:36

I have never once ever thought

31:39

about that. Way. About be

31:41

ideas like oh yeah, if you're wearing a ring and

31:43

you play games or it's going to be. Harsh

31:46

meddled carving, a groove and year

31:48

in the or plastic controller potentially.

31:51

Met. Has that saw his? Never. Even

31:54

come across my mind at all. Just

31:56

me neither and is under

31:58

your skin smooth. Underneath Now.

32:02

No, I don't. I do take years off. Ah,

32:04

only when I shower x I don't like it like

32:06

mr get stuck down and I take my often i

32:08

work out and when I shower. but yes I don't I

32:11

don't notice anything about it yet, but it's It's becoming

32:13

less distracting, but it is annoying. I play with it

32:15

all the time. Like. Me do to

32:17

spin it. Yeah, I'm. Sorry

32:20

that would drive me insane. I. Don't like

32:22

the sensation of a ring. When. You're on my

32:24

finger! I remember specifically try a ring on like room when was

32:26

like. Hour. At forty or fifty an

32:28

hour and like I hey I specifically hate the

32:30

way this feels really are being choked in some

32:32

way. right? I'm being like restrained

32:34

around even know. I'd. Rather

32:37

were and I'm like a necklace

32:39

like that like Frodo than been

32:41

where it on my give a

32:43

singer Mister Frodo. As.

32:46

A horrible impression. Answers

32:49

the highway. It's Frodo Away when

32:51

he was a boy setting and

32:54

ago, but he. Misses

32:57

since I would watch that I would y

32:59

settler their eggs. God this lighting makes you

33:01

think a ghost. The. Me: I'm

33:05

a Mediterranean man. Yeah. This

33:07

is unacceptable. And so

33:09

get her and what are we talking about? I have no

33:11

idea. The. As you can start talking about things

33:13

that are more relevant to the show but not yet. Zero

33:15

wrote him. And said hello boys on

33:17

a question but this one of the shut up Boars Head

33:20

superiority. I live in Michigan and was never a

33:22

brand that I could find. Lo and behold, I ended up

33:24

shopping a Kroger in some Boars Head. The. Seeker

33:26

Boys hyped up or said and I needed something I could

33:28

eat with one hand. Since I'm a truck driver, I have

33:30

to say the boys are right. A little pricey but worth

33:32

it. Totally. Worth the extra

33:34

price. I mean, not even close.

33:37

You eaten that Columbus garbage

33:39

or like that store brand

33:41

trace? Stop.

33:44

Go get your boards had. There's gotta be worse at

33:46

somewhere. What's that? Delhi on the circles? We. Ever

33:48

thought about them in the while? Hitler's bunker. Yeah

33:50

yeah. I was

33:52

there in the summertime and was awesome and

33:54

yet they had Boars Head. but I going

33:56

to me boss up. To

33:59

the also awesome game. But.

34:01

That's why I'm sure was great. That's rainfall but it's

34:03

great. When. Less aware that you to the it

34:05

was gonna pull out on the show really? Something.

34:07

Format about it. Are they really

34:09

mad about it? There's one guy. One guy

34:11

in the comments I just notice it has

34:14

he always says something. I. I

34:17

get a little annoyed sometimes with some of the

34:19

see that we get because like actually with them.

34:22

With. Laxative date or whatever. People

34:25

misinterpret our humor so deeply sometimes

34:27

that they think that things that

34:29

are are overtly not even remotely

34:31

serious Become seriously. People think that

34:33

were really upset. About

34:36

lack the laxative stuff. It's. Like

34:38

we're just joking. Oh you don't like the

34:40

or how can you listen to this show

34:42

and not understand the tenor of whatsoever. But.

34:46

People saw it. People. Fall

34:48

Open for who's the games Evil by spoiled

34:50

like it's oh I got a nice yeah

34:52

like I believe you gotta event was understand

34:54

that at some point is is like yeah

34:56

people are just not going to have people

34:58

going to listen and they're going to like

35:00

it but they're not going to click with

35:02

it exactly. And as fascinating to

35:04

me that that people will listen extensively

35:07

to something of a fundamentally don't understand.

35:10

His hips and but people do it. People do

35:12

it all the time. I'm sure people go to

35:14

like of I'm sure there's a bunch of like

35:16

people who I'm really into cinema or in the

35:19

cinema who go and watch these like. A

35:21

huge movies of i don't understand. And.

35:24

They're like I like to. the eggs. And

35:27

it's kind of what's happening. I think it's as

35:29

idea Isis yes I sweet yeah you fight while

35:31

busy The Naacp guys. The

35:33

authors by one of for and what a boss

35:35

fight it is I it it's I was scrolling

35:38

through the youtube comments on the video version of

35:40

last week's Arabia's two weeks episode ago know was

35:42

last week says we just doesn't nine Someone had

35:44

said. This. Is hard

35:46

hard to get through. There's like so much

35:49

anger or something like that. Are some like

35:51

I'm I'm like what are you talking about

35:53

like what are you like on. The

35:56

Wrong: Like watching a video and then you have another

35:58

window open and you think it's the com section of

36:00

like a different and it's actually oriental that you're reading

36:02

and what you're watching like a fucking. You.

36:05

Know where your argument or a political coppers? or even

36:07

on just so. You. Can't do very

36:09

much with that kind of feedback. If.

36:11

I have no idea what you're talking about. I've said this

36:13

in the past. Nine out

36:15

of ten times people say I say something on the show absolute

36:18

in say that. The. Idea of

36:20

people meet leave comments all the time telling

36:22

us things that were said on the show.

36:25

Like. I don't even understand. So at some point you

36:27

just gotta kind of. I

36:30

don't know what am I gonna do. what can

36:32

I do about I've I've gotten so much better

36:34

about that about just disconnect the it's it's it's

36:36

series like stop posting socially on Twitter is he

36:38

goes. Every post on twitter become some argument about

36:40

the original tweet. Like. Yeah.

36:43

It's kind of crazy, but I've done it as well

36:45

as like someone tweets something out and then there's a

36:47

second tweet a few hours later. Been! while. Just

36:50

to clarify. And then there's like a third tweet,

36:52

a few Everly runners. They were like oh, whatever

36:54

you guys don't have it's always the same things

36:57

I guess no one cares. So it's it's. almost

36:59

like when you tweet. Your.

37:01

Regional tweet becomes invisible. But

37:05

people can still somehow react to it.

37:07

It's very strange. It's like some people

37:09

are reacting to the memory of something

37:11

that they could simply read. It's

37:15

a very strange experience begun on

37:17

social media in general. But.

37:19

It wasn't aware. There's. There's people

37:21

com what you're saying that. Say.

37:23

The said something you didn't say about. another thing I

37:25

notice. Please add: people have this on

37:28

in the background their drive and they're doing

37:30

some other tasks or whatever. So. Not

37:32

and I'm not saying you need one hundred percent attention

37:34

all the time. But did he cop and say. You.

37:36

Guys didn't talk about this. Would.

37:39

Often we clearly did just in another

37:41

direction or you weren't paying attention. Sometimes

37:43

I happens to sometimes time stamps or

37:45

general so sometimes a little bit of

37:47

something else was said in this sector.

37:49

Yeah, no, yeah, he was animals. You

37:51

know, all five hours of it. You

37:53

don't know yet. You don't have to.

37:56

You don't have to. Attentively.

37:58

Engage with a three single moment of every single

38:00

episode This but if you are going to comment

38:03

on the A bread. You. Set of

38:05

if you're going to engage with it. When.

38:07

You might as well at the very least. Pay.

38:09

Attention to the thing you that you're trying to engage with. That's.

38:12

An itemized somebody was like you just listen to the

38:14

so kind of passively in just kind of like minded

38:16

or a business but when they come to use like

38:18

why did you say this a wedding talk about this

38:21

or like you said this and it's and as I

38:23

know if necessary have yet to declared of stuff it

38:25

all feelings ot Chris it's all on the same pocket.

38:28

And. We talk about the Zola time ago I remember

38:30

of the the whole. This. Phenomenon.

38:33

Of people pretending they're blocked by other

38:35

people on twitter. right?

38:37

It's all like miss all this performative stuff you're

38:39

doing com Zola. So what I'm saying is my

38:42

fear thing is like I see on a regular

38:44

basis people claiming I block them on Twitter. What?

38:46

I'm looking straight at their comments. Know

38:49

you're not blocked. I. Don't know why

38:51

you're lying about this. I people always lie

38:53

about the weirdest shit. I

38:55

don't. I don't understand anyway. So

38:58

we want. Engage with the

39:00

content the way one that's totally fine. Just.

39:03

Feels. Below. My Sir

39:06

Chris. Was

39:09

at work. where was the last episode?

39:11

Particularly angry? Know now I have. No.

39:13

I actually thought the last episode was good and

39:15

was totally north. That's the point I'm making is

39:17

like what are you and then you'll as and

39:19

you'll see get like ten bombs up or something

39:22

like what is going on your i expect that

39:24

it's are places like there are certain places that

39:26

are clearly. There. Clearly don't like

39:28

us but talk about us like like are read

39:30

it I would say as it is a you

39:32

are uniquely negative place where you can we get

39:35

too. Hung. Up on a thing

39:37

that said there, because it's usually. Not gonna

39:39

be nice no matter what. Like. No matter what,

39:41

you know, What? Engaging

39:44

with the continent a deeper level. it's exact what you

39:46

said in a few times that I've interacted or try

39:48

to interact with people that do the cards and I

39:50

was into bible letter or thought. I'm like really meticulous

39:52

about making sure that I have the full context so

39:55

as to not waste their time and all that kind

39:57

of the up arrow it just bothered you could have

39:59

such these. It is. And

40:02

were totally off. While I even and some sort

40:04

of tangible we we saw the it says he's

40:06

cadences words like damn. People. It's easier

40:08

to read the comments and listen to the content. And

40:10

the cause it's long. I mean, it's totally inaccessible. I

40:13

said that a million times. It's completely inaccessible. But.

40:15

Are you headed by design? It's a show

40:17

that you're either going to get are you don't' And.

40:20

At least representatives were saying honestly and

40:22

and kindly only leave nice comments. Only

40:24

Dom up. The videos.

40:27

Only. Support Awesome Patriot

40:30

patriotic on socialism. Hear

40:32

ya, It would really convince me.

40:35

To. Stop. Engaging with a lot

40:37

of social media stuff is that I, I, I,

40:39

I camera. I came here when it was my

40:41

tweet something if somebody was like somebody disagreed. And

40:44

then I replied with the a copy pasted version

40:46

of the same exact we did they were blind

40:48

to like the same exact thing. I changed nothing

40:50

and are like oh we should have just said

40:53

that. As I now

40:55

this is it. A simple are illiterate

40:57

dude vs. like act as the one

40:59

thing I'd be on the internet has

41:01

taught me more than anything is like

41:03

there's. An.

41:07

Get the people. can. People can read words that

41:09

they can't read. That

41:11

right, and motor and many people can't even read the

41:13

words. Yeah. They're usually

41:15

not. I don't know. I'm just

41:18

shocked by that. We did

41:20

not. Smarter than ever. right? We.

41:22

Should be. You know the tragedy of that

41:24

is we are. To

41:26

share. With us

41:29

as answer's Yes, Yes, it's

41:31

okay. Don't. Look at for to see

41:33

Chris. Money. Give you a bag on Wednesday in.

41:35

The New York tude we have. You

41:37

have become common. How moment? Yeah, exactly.

41:40

And that doesn't a big kiss on the mouth of

41:42

galleon say so. No hug. Me give

41:44

you a smooch. Okay get. You. Going

41:46

to grow be a scary as. It

41:51

is. Marius could

41:53

suck Lynskey rodents and hello secrecy symbols crew.

41:55

The last episode of Christian a comprehensive history

41:57

has come out. At least for a long while.

42:00

Doesn't increase did you watch the finale and call and I

42:02

was wondering up are you going to the series where he

42:04

sort for you start watching a personally I sell off somewhere

42:06

in the episode sixties during the whole dimensional merge Arch P

42:08

Christian was the first if the if it forty as if

42:10

the episode they think. Thanks. Mike

42:12

I told me this that the series is over. And.

42:15

I think I got somewhere in the teens.

42:18

Probably. And am I wasn't just

42:20

the yes, it's a lot. I mean,

42:22

it's idiot. Earlier at this point, I've

42:24

watched Ken Burns Civil War length. Documentary.

42:27

About Christian Sears like twenty five hours? yikes

42:29

and Burns baseball or something. I'd as like

42:32

it's not unnecessary amount of time. So

42:35

you're I had a wrap it up at that point, but

42:37

maybe one day I'll. I'll go back. For what your

42:39

thoughts doesn't, It's a it's all over I guess. Yeah.

42:41

I actually didn't know about

42:43

this. I'm behind by probably.

42:46

Four. Or five episodes. The.

42:48

Later stages of this saga

42:50

are nowhere near as interesting.

42:53

and it's not a documentary

42:55

does a bad job. It's

42:57

mostly just reading tweets. And

43:00

forum posts at that point. And

43:03

it's nowhere near as interesting or

43:05

exciting, but. I feel a

43:07

give it some new clothes. I gotta I'm

43:09

already made the spark so I gotta go

43:11

back. Media that some know dozens watch on

43:14

the way to New York tomorrow. Some of

43:16

those houses as so. Finish. It

43:18

up, but I'm curious to his reason

43:20

why he's ending it. If it's right,

43:22

be sending it probably around the the

43:25

jail Arc be insists arc. Maybe that's

43:27

why needs his time or baby wants

43:29

to do other things he's done. More

43:33

than as humanly necessary. Or

43:36

might have any regrets at this point. I'm saying

43:38

you When I discovered him and wondered like I'd

43:40

assume that. He. Would be

43:42

making seven figures doing this. Because.

43:45

Of how deep it isn't how much traffic gets with

43:47

maybe that's not true I don't know. but like I

43:49

would suspect if he's smart in he is and isn't

43:51

interesting dude watches them. To. Nose

43:53

and your team a deal. Samuel. Pieces

43:56

made a nice amount of money on this on doing

43:58

this. like a nice amount of money to go do

44:00

something else now. So. You from.

44:04

Christian, the most famous person and. My.

44:06

Nephew the was his sister. Yes

44:08

this time they at I was

44:11

I I was. I'm

44:13

going to that Walmart that he was in

44:15

next week to get my. Palm.

44:18

Passport photo taken. so are you not as

44:20

him? Yeah, I shall

44:22

be. A. We are can easily be working

44:25

there. Yes, Yes I

44:27

it just it just it says

44:29

and I. I have. I

44:32

been aware of this guy for so long but

44:34

I never kept up. Really, I've been to me

44:36

liquid presses the peak is. Legit.

44:38

Liquid was the absolute. Pinnacle.

44:41

Of that entire situation that everly after

44:43

that kind of its way. it is

44:45

interesting, but it's added I, I. I

44:47

don't really care a lot about what

44:49

happens after that really? Have. Because

44:52

like you said, it's just. it's so much investment

44:54

into a single person worth. Like I have a

44:56

lot of information on this person, the site unforgettable

44:58

in my head, is probably taking up space that

45:00

could be allocated to more useful. Information

45:02

or even just like skills. I really do

45:04

kind of feel like. The

45:07

older I get, the more convince I am

45:09

that your brain is indeed, A

45:11

computer, And. There is

45:13

a degree of like finite space there

45:15

even if it's and is. Incomprehensible

45:18

to even think about like how that can

45:20

be measured. The To be I think

45:22

about like I know this this in this about christians

45:24

like I could replace it with some funds which. I

45:27

We think about that in terms of. Band. With.

45:30

Like however I mind. I'm.

45:34

Like. However, our minds storage know that

45:36

for and like our ability to process

45:38

data translates to actual. Computer. Data

45:40

or whatever I feel like you can always for

45:42

me I can feel when I'm like at my

45:44

band with are like reaching a band with moment

45:46

where. It's. Like you're a meetings going on.

45:48

We just. As humans were oh

45:51

frazzled. But. I think that's like your brain. same like.

45:54

Can do all this. Yeah. Latest suppose

45:56

you much. Yes, It

45:59

is interesting. That. There's.

46:01

Something about you know Samuel were like

46:03

he. I don't want up

46:05

at. I mean this is like an install at all to.

46:07

I think it's really cool what he did, but it's like

46:10

he's obsessed with Christian right by me. like. Yes,

46:13

An obsession. To do something

46:16

like that? I think it's

46:18

and like speaks to his own. Are

46:21

you can metre analyze like his own

46:23

gun? You use it make a pretty

46:25

good case. You can take a pretty

46:27

good argument that a a documentary about

46:29

Geno Samuel as somebody who is as

46:32

obsessed. With. Christian would be

46:34

as interesting. Potentially.

46:36

Like there's there's not like public frigates or

46:38

anything, but just the idea that someone would

46:40

dedicate so much of their live in so

46:42

and so much of their time to this

46:44

specific saying. That. In an

46:46

of itself is also fascinating and

46:48

interesting and kind of insane. I

46:51

will most respected Zero Zero that a really good job.

46:53

Make it this argument, but it's also insane. But you've

46:55

done this. By. More like a

46:58

medical exemption to a documentary like this. Long

47:00

on Str some voter. Yeah. That

47:02

that's what what? So as to have West a

47:04

good So Insists vs. that other drugs? that's that's

47:06

that's the things that you probably quit when he

47:09

probably could. Doesn't say per

47:11

se like he could really. Use

47:13

it is. I feel like he has a lot

47:15

of skill. In this

47:17

arena in some way. So.

47:20

So. To have stuck with Christian for so long as fast

47:22

and the his. It is. Like.

47:25

Area. While. Or a Pm. He's. A

47:29

Christian Butter the Documentary Gm. Percent.

47:32

Because eleven will. Or

47:34

it's Final Things Aca Puzo Road and I saw

47:36

this in a few places I wanted to bring

47:38

up. Regarding the recent consolation episode I'm writing in

47:41

task about the Charter Beta Zeiss a chatterbox. I.

47:43

Was asked. Out Shatter bait donation

47:45

sounds that went off at two hours, Fifty

47:48

three minutes and thirteen seconds. In this as

47:50

parasitical Chris I know, you know what sound

47:52

this is. Tall Did you secretly

47:54

have a camp site open mid podcast? Dagon was

47:56

a likely Jazzy or perhaps Micah. I've.

48:00

Dot is com. It. I. Mean people get

48:02

who I've known you were talking about. So

48:04

who could it have been? It must have a if

48:07

there was any one. I

48:09

in that for people, it's Jaffe. right?

48:12

It was coming from Japanese audio. I checked.

48:14

By. Parker. From what I could

48:17

tell, you could hear a sound.

48:19

Go. Off. And then you hear

48:21

a amazon type device go off and

48:24

start talking and you can see job

48:26

you had to give needs himself and

48:28

and turns it off soda his alexa

48:30

turns on often. Father. Doesn't

48:32

want to was. But.

48:35

Because I was. You'd like that

48:37

because every.so bold and but that's

48:39

also. So. Weird.

48:42

The and. The bulls part doesn't

48:44

really bother me. the weird part bothers me more.

48:46

and so when I saw them like know there

48:48

must be some explanation to this. You

48:50

know, so. It's audio. We.

48:53

Know thy so yes. I'm so

48:55

there's not a second shooter. The audio

48:57

come from one. One

48:59

location boy we think that it's probably be like soothing

49:01

at. I would imagine that that's what it is because

49:04

it i that That's probably happened a dozen times in

49:06

the time and well my record sheffield time where it's

49:08

like you'll have to be like alexa shut up when

49:10

he says something that like to set it off. Me:

49:13

Up for weird to me that. The

49:15

isn't a big as one the most interesting people you've ever known

49:17

like series where he he. In my opinion that he's one of

49:20

the most. I've. Known him for a long time,

49:22

but I've really started to get to know him over the last

49:24

couple of years. Like as a

49:26

friend like I consider us good friends. And.

49:29

I would feel the same. And.

49:32

He's. So interesting. Like

49:34

there's so many dynamic all to him.

49:37

And just the elect soothing like him having an alexa

49:39

of i guess so. And.

49:41

Ask about a my whole of. it's like I'm up

49:43

at ago. Live microphone of my ass delivers. I know

49:45

that has an election. My personalizes my mom. And

49:49

my oh yeah oh my doing that.

49:51

So. People that have one for was your. I'm

49:55

sorry producing some and. I said i

49:57

add ones are while. But

50:00

I didn't really see a purpose in it. I

50:03

switched to the Apple HomePod

50:05

Mini just because

50:07

it's much easier to connect

50:10

to my phone. But the

50:12

Alexa, I realized that you can

50:14

go in and listen to all of

50:17

the recordings of when you engage with

50:19

it. Yeah. It just

50:21

saves those. You can go listen to

50:23

them from two years ago or something. People

50:26

can go look it up. There's two things. People can

50:28

go look it up. There

50:30

were people at Amazon that I think got

50:32

in trouble some years ago

50:34

for spying on people through Alexa. So

50:36

that definitely can happen and

50:38

is built into the software. I can't even – or

50:40

the hardware – I can't even imagine how

50:43

the government backdoors this shit on a constant basis. Even

50:45

if it can't be – it's not admissible

50:47

in court. It's like you can kind of get a bunch of

50:49

information that way. So that's funny as

50:51

hell to me. And that's the first

50:53

thing. But the second thing is this

50:56

whole TikTok ban. Oh,

50:59

yeah. I

51:01

was listening to a podcast recently, the All In podcast, where they

51:03

were talking about something we brought up in the past, where it's

51:06

like our phones are listening to us and we know it. And

51:09

yet none of the companies admit it. And

51:12

it's just kind of this

51:14

don't ask, don't tell situation, where

51:16

it's like we know. And

51:19

he was talking about how – he was talking

51:21

about something very specific about coring apples, which

51:24

is specific analogy. How he was

51:26

talking to his dog about how annoyed he was that he

51:28

had to constantly cut these apples up or whatever. And

51:30

then he got apple coring

51:32

ads for like little

51:34

things, handheld devices on TikTok. Because

51:37

it came up through like TikTok clearly is a

51:39

backdoor for

51:42

all sorts of things. And they've admitted that they've used it as

51:44

a backdoor too. So I don't trust any of this shit. I'm

51:47

not going to give them more that they can do all sorts of things,

51:49

but I'm not going to give them nexus's to get into my

51:51

house. Even more things.

51:54

It's the same reason why I don't do the quick –

51:56

whatever they call it, quick travel. The

51:58

thing at the airport where you go through quick travel. glee. That.

52:01

Out our yeah, we want to go get to all

52:03

the seven I'm I'm not doing that. You

52:06

might have all this telemetry or me anyway, but I'm not going

52:08

to just give it to you. Yeah,

52:10

like right yourself. As as

52:13

it's a series, why don't do any the Dna stuff?

52:16

Like. To deride and forty three. me or whatever.

52:18

Yeah, is that they save all that stuff. And.

52:21

They they've used to some another commit any crimes with

52:23

a sob. like legitimate crimes or that's some I think

52:25

based on the Golden Say killer. By.

52:27

Like. Figuring out

52:30

like he had Ble specific genes or whatever

52:32

it is with cousins in that setting and

52:34

then they were able to kind of like

52:36

backwards compute it. But. I bahrain

52:38

later made me like basically. It's.

52:40

Like obvious that get Emma ominous, participate as little

52:43

as possible giving you that information. A I

52:45

used to be annoyed in I'm. I

52:47

don't think they do in Virginia. Been in California, you

52:49

know Chris? Like at the Dmv, you have to give

52:51

them a fingerprint. But. You have

52:53

do. On I'm about to give

52:55

a yellow. get some friends! I. Remember being

52:57

or something like that? I've never gone to the Dmv

53:00

here. And.on how and

53:02

that really bother me I was like

53:04

that's. I. Don't like you having that.

53:06

You. Know Like I just know. It's

53:09

other the Kp garnered are taken I just don't. I think

53:11

people are too comfortable giving having all these different things are

53:13

and so he goes back to this is like why doesn't

53:15

anyone admit that these things realising was if I could rip

53:17

a microphone out of i know this sounds weird but if

53:19

I could rip a microphone oh my I phone I would.

53:22

And. Have it just me. Like a small

53:24

internet. And. Texting device. Same.

53:27

Thing with my controller. Yell.

53:30

And on us the i'm early his at

53:32

him. I really, I hate that about. The

53:34

dual sense really like it is the

53:37

main reason why. Like: I don't like

53:39

to play multiplayer games on. Are

53:41

like on on be a sizes of a week. As

53:43

a diver I noted of things like on by default

53:45

may have to remember know it shut it off was

53:47

or engine is off Id vault but like most of

53:50

them they aren't so it's like ominous. Have been talking

53:52

this whole time. In

53:54

the middle of a sudden games as I ask me

53:56

our this. Our yeah, When

53:59

you when I'm off on. Or even or we

54:01

were getting out of the oh yeah Zach. So

54:03

I'd I think we've figured out that the mystery

54:05

of this donation sad I don't think it's that

54:07

it off. Of course. Postscript:

54:11

Tongue any self much. Yeah.

54:15

Yeah that's it is honest looked at. I'm not

54:18

a prude or anything. I am not like and

54:20

our kids lucid and like watching porn on acid

54:22

you been listening to for like it's an album.

54:24

Best. Ice.

54:26

I generally don't know what the sound is. I.

54:30

Don't know what the human there's no accident you

54:32

would know which was interesting. he my divergence more

54:34

you know. I mean it. Will

54:38

like what it is. I assume it's a

54:40

says. A donation sound like is

54:42

it that which one. To

54:44

I assume it's chatter bait is just like

54:47

a website, but you would use. O

54:49

B S. To. Or something

54:51

like that to. Connect. To

54:53

it. So maybe it's. I. Don't

54:55

know, I don't know what the sounders. Yet.

54:59

Whoop! I think that maybe part of the reasoning of the three

55:01

of us. you are the one that has an only fans account.

55:03

Betty. Of Israel in that world. I

55:05

do. I join that world than I

55:07

do, as I doubt warrants that much

55:09

confidence. Yeah, that's crazy like that. Less

55:12

accessible the whole. The.

55:15

Whole idea of like a lives poured

55:17

is so straight survey I'd only i

55:19

really I can on the same been

55:21

I do not understand the appeal of

55:23

that at all. Even slightly.

55:26

Know. If I guess I can understand the appeal

55:28

of it's for someone but for me. I.

55:30

Think that's awkward. He. Of yeah.

55:34

What Twitch drives on now. To.

55:36

Seattle yeah that was my grandma's There was

55:38

a girl that we did you did so

55:41

we whether that was actually hilarious were like

55:43

she had like green screen booty shorts or

55:45

whenever. I saw yeah I know

55:47

that it as as a best actually

55:49

like a college it while I love

55:52

that best. So smart and. Sisters

55:54

and some are not really an idea. It.

55:56

Is it is smart? But. It's what

55:58

does all says to me about. Which is that.

56:01

And. We know the space on the other financials and that

56:03

them lay off about people. Whatever is like it's not

56:05

going well there and like there will be me has

56:07

anything to make it. Stick. You know,

56:10

Which. Is crazy. They seem like they were a top of the

56:12

world for some for so long. And. I

56:14

was always really deeply mystified how you tube

56:17

didn't eat their lunch so much quicker like.

56:20

It's just crazy how which was actually viable?

56:23

And it still is bible but it's crazy how became like

56:25

a titan. When. It wasn't attached. it's

56:27

almost like bowels. Were. Think

56:29

it's just this random. Company we have

56:31

on after that but. But. Were just kind

56:33

of team out of nowhere and and dominate generic A there was

56:35

a bunch of different ones you stream and all this and and

56:38

it was. But. Meanwhile the Titan in

56:40

video I couldn't figure it out for saw it

56:42

was very weird. Yeah, very weird. yeah. Very.

56:45

Strange. What's.

56:48

Move into the news or is a few small news items to

56:50

talk about. Then we'll get into what we're playing. Them will get

56:52

into the bigger news items and will get into your listener inquiries.

56:55

From. patron.com/last A Media as we record

56:57

this two hundred and ninety ninth

56:59

episode. Of secrets in

57:02

Places August. Or. The

57:04

big. News. Here.

57:06

Comes by way of. So

57:09

you. Guys will remember last year Jazzy, we

57:11

were tomography earlier. He had this kind of lead

57:14

about this important person working at I at Adam

57:16

Sony that a lot of people would know if

57:18

they weren't really deeply in the weeds, but that

57:20

was nonetheless a very important person in this present

57:22

a left and he couldn't believe it. Bomb.

57:25

And that person was Connie. Booth. County Booth

57:27

began of Sunni and Nineteen Eighty Nine or

57:29

Maginot. She was at Sony. I think it's

57:31

Sony Pictures first. And Precision didn't

57:33

even exist as a brand for several

57:36

years until so she was there the

57:38

entire time. She's going to be Group

57:40

General Manager. And.

57:42

Is barely group general manager Action Rpgs

57:44

with a portfolio according idea that will

57:46

include he a motives Iron Man Cliffhangers,

57:48

Black Panther, and by where's Dragon Age

57:50

and Mass Effect. So

57:53

she had kind of, maybe

57:55

acrimoniously left Sony last fall.

57:57

It was very surprising because.

58:00

Carney Booze for people that don't know

58:02

and we can get back into it.

58:04

Was the Spice President of Product Development

58:06

for many, many. Years. At

58:08

Sony. And. She was

58:10

responsible in a major way and getting

58:12

lots and lots of games, especially early

58:15

and mid way. Through. Playstation life

58:17

cycle to the console. So.

58:19

We're talking about things like Crash Bandicoot. Were

58:21

talking about things. From.

58:24

Sucker Punch were talking about or that is so

58:26

much Murdoch or normal sites like Cooper and stuff

58:28

from Sucker Punch, but I'm a Crash Bandicoot. The

58:30

from No Dogs. Were. Talking about Insomniac

58:32

in those relationships. Very. Much

58:35

involved. As. A production

58:37

head. And. Really a masseur producer

58:39

me would see. if you be Playstation games over

58:41

the years you'd see her name all over those

58:43

credits. And. So was a big deal that she left.

58:46

So. She's over now at ea. Think.

58:48

This is a great get for them. Dimitris read

58:51

into a some patrons as greetings Yes As of

58:53

yesterday has been announced a Karate Boot as joint

58:55

Ea with one of her duties being revitalizing the

58:57

Bioware studio as reported by Games. In a hurry

58:59

up his. With. Booze. Being a better in

59:01

a Playstation for more than three decades, is it safe to

59:04

assume that such an endeavor will bear fruit. This.

59:06

Is perhaps showcase for Ea and interest moving away from

59:08

live servers models as how to be a smart. As.

59:10

Always keep up the great work and best wishes for a

59:12

great celebration at Secret. Or hundred think you Dimitris ready and.

59:15

So it is worth noting presume very first of your maybe

59:17

like the same I cani going he a is. She

59:21

did have some multiplayer games like

59:24

so com was developed under her.

59:27

At Zipper What It is true that primarily it

59:29

was single player fair and places she was known

59:31

primarily for single player fair so that makes a

59:33

lot of sense. I.

59:36

Really to share? Jaffe surprised that they let

59:38

her walk. And she might have

59:40

been responsible in some ways for the games is a server

59:42

strategy that has failed and as if you wanna start or

59:44

not fail but has been kind of turned in some way

59:46

that you want to kind of look at a low as

59:48

you can. But. I think is the great pick

59:50

up for electronic arts and should bear I think deftly bear fruit

59:52

for those to the Us because she has. A

59:55

lot of good. Ideas and

59:57

and deep wells of experience.

1:00:00

Yeah, I mean, if anybody needs

1:00:02

this kind of support, it's it's

1:00:04

he. I feel like they're in

1:00:06

a weird spot, especially because I

1:00:08

don't. I don't know what the

1:00:10

high level is for bioware stuff

1:00:12

going forward, but it's probably. I

1:00:16

can't imagine. I don't even think I'm

1:00:18

alone on this, But when I can't

1:00:20

imagine that there's much care for. Dragon

1:00:24

Age or of the Next Mass Effect in comparison

1:00:26

to you know what it used to be and

1:00:28

so I guess the I do think getting some

1:00:30

help from Sony this capacity. Are

1:00:34

getting some actually help from a city

1:00:36

for like. For. This.

1:00:39

For. For their slate of titles

1:00:41

and suffered they're working on, makes sense, I

1:00:43

just. I just don't know if it's. It's

1:00:47

a good. It's a good get for them. I just don't

1:00:49

know if it's really. Enough to turn the tide

1:00:51

of like where they're kind of headed because I, I, i don't

1:00:53

know, I you I'd I'd. I. Have no

1:00:55

faith And yeah, it'll going forward, especially

1:00:58

because when they do have something. Like.

1:01:00

I was a game that you you

1:01:03

champions last year the didn't do Albert

1:01:05

baby animals. Yeah. Immortals like bit they'd

1:01:07

be take those bats and they don't really nurse of them

1:01:09

really well in the and they don't really like i didn't

1:01:11

see that market and at all. Maybe that was like them

1:01:13

seeing the writing on the wall for that. or maybe they're

1:01:15

just my dad is no point marketing of because it's doomed

1:01:18

anyway. oh wow know what their thought process was but. I

1:01:21

don't know. I. I feel

1:01:23

like it's going to take more than tiny boosted. Say.

1:01:26

Be a up. Doesn't

1:01:28

he have any those you ensure. Yeah.

1:01:30

It's a it seems like he a between

1:01:32

this and also I think diseases may be

1:01:34

over a year ago now. been him bringing

1:01:37

in Vince and power to kind of over

1:01:39

see things as that's the trying to bring

1:01:41

in these. Well. Known established people

1:01:43

to kind of right the ship

1:01:45

and I think Chris put a

1:01:47

beautifully just that. It's.

1:01:50

It's tough because sometimes one person can

1:01:52

make all the difference. But.

1:01:55

At the same time to turn

1:01:57

around and entire ship tens? That's

1:01:59

it. Extremely difficult task and

1:02:02

so managing so much is

1:02:04

riding on. This. New

1:02:06

Dragon Age. Game for

1:02:08

them. I'm. Out of

1:02:10

it's it's always when it is,

1:02:12

always feel like they're one bad

1:02:15

release from non existing anymore. But

1:02:17

that's happened twice now and so.

1:02:20

What? To see what happens, I am

1:02:22

guessing her effect on Bioware specifically.

1:02:25

Will most likely take place after this

1:02:27

drag needs game since this is kind

1:02:29

of nice Leave. Are wrapped up.

1:02:31

At this point it's supposed to come out. I'm.

1:02:34

Not. This year, right? maybe next

1:02:36

year. So the question I guess

1:02:38

is for Mass Effect. I think

1:02:40

that's where all eyes are on

1:02:43

for bioware and whether they can.

1:02:45

Recapture. The magic that they.

1:02:48

Try to already bring back once and sale. Here.

1:02:52

While said. For. Graduation Scotty! I

1:02:54

mean it was clear that she was gonna be scooped up

1:02:56

of she had wanted to be if she didn't want to

1:02:58

retire and she's young still so she has. Lots.

1:03:01

To gives and I think she can help

1:03:03

them turn things around. though I do wonder.

1:03:05

See. the more information we

1:03:08

get to the in in a lesser we have

1:03:10

and intellectually honest person as they get more information.

1:03:12

On. Something will. Kind

1:03:14

of bend and be malleable towards their.

1:03:18

Predispose. Notions towards what they think

1:03:20

might have happened originally and as

1:03:22

Morris come out about the games

1:03:24

is service, cancellations and. The

1:03:27

lay offs. The Bungie

1:03:29

Snafu. And. So on

1:03:31

and snow for so forth which will get into later. It

1:03:34

does make you look at something like Jim Ryun

1:03:36

leaving. Under a different lens like may

1:03:38

be kind of a mutual party. I'm again, it

1:03:41

doesn't seem like that. That's necessarily true. But.

1:03:43

It could be some of my daddy see some with Connie where it's like. Though

1:03:46

seat shepherded all these amazing games for

1:03:48

these amazing studios was see. Why?

1:03:51

Would there be consternation between everyone? If.

1:03:55

She. And have. Her. Hands and

1:03:57

something that went wrong. Otherwise, it makes no. Unless

1:04:00

the entire thing was like our

1:04:02

games had become so expensive under

1:04:04

you. But you and we've

1:04:06

been doing this for song and you have

1:04:08

not adequately controlled costs. Or

1:04:10

maybe there is tired of each other. I. Don't know,

1:04:13

but it's just we're to be as at a

1:04:15

place in Nineteen Eighty Nine, predating the Playstation brand

1:04:17

by five years. And.

1:04:19

Then just leave. I got an end up at Yeah, it's like a

1:04:21

totally different lie for her now, but I'm sure she's paid very well

1:04:23

the be there and. The I'm.

1:04:26

It's. Funny because he a has mind.

1:04:29

Sony. Talent before. Specifically.

1:04:31

With. Amy. Hennig, although didn't work out

1:04:34

very well. For them. Will. Target A

1:04:36

Minimum. Of

1:04:38

what you want to bring a soap opera per square I think all three

1:04:40

of us are on a held. I was too I it is now. When.

1:04:43

They wrote a story that I that was pretty

1:04:45

cool it it's had held I was to Paranoia

1:04:47

Peaks players convince the Illuminate already walk among us.

1:04:50

So. Here's what it says is

1:04:52

actually by kill Adam who was on our

1:04:54

show cigarettes and was plus or two ago. One

1:04:56

of the writers says quotes hell divers two players

1:04:58

have served heroically the ongoing intergalactic war effort,

1:05:00

turning out milk and millions to patriotically defend Super

1:05:03

Earth. From. The external threat of both bargain

1:05:05

bopper reports have begun to trickle in about a

1:05:07

new enemies actually moving in the shadows of Wraps

1:05:09

more appropriately, the return of an old Nemesis one

1:05:11

known as the Illuminate. So. Even suspect they

1:05:13

are already walk amongst us which is obviously the

1:05:15

fetus nonsense. I like the i like writing it

1:05:17

from his perspective. I was. He.

1:05:19

Goes on. This has quote The Illuminate were an

1:05:21

enemy faction in the first held hours in ancient

1:05:24

technology. A technologically advanced race of aliens hell bent

1:05:26

on destroying super. We. All know they were

1:05:28

wait that long ago like us. Pernicious, completely false reports

1:05:30

of fly bugs that simply do not exist. Still,

1:05:32

some patriot perhaps suffering from battle fatigue are

1:05:35

reporting coming under fire from a vibrant blue

1:05:37

blazer, which something matches the energy signature a

1:05:39

sniper weaponry employed by The Illuminate previously. It's.

1:05:42

Pretty distinct from the red energy weapons used

1:05:44

by both held I was in boss, but

1:05:46

visual evidence remains inconclusive. I'm

1:05:48

so. There's. This very that.

1:05:51

And push whereas his theory that the Hell

1:05:54

Divers alert twitter account. Is. Actually run

1:05:56

by Arrowhead. And that a strategically

1:05:58

leak things on it. though they

1:06:00

tweeted out a little while ago. Pictures.

1:06:03

Of the Illuminate Like leak models of The

1:06:05

Illuminate. And then the Ceo of

1:06:07

the of the company tweeted out blue beams

1:06:09

or a real a can't hurt you. And

1:06:12

then there are videos of it really appearing

1:06:14

like this: blue. This random blue beam. Chris.

1:06:17

I want to get you in on this because doesn't that I thought a little

1:06:19

bit about as last week, but. I. Love this

1:06:21

dynamic level of updating and that it's cool that kind

1:06:23

of like hot sex and just add things to the

1:06:25

game dynamically. I was curious what you think of it

1:06:27

as a kind of a multiplayer gamer. Seems.

1:06:29

Unique to me in some sense to. To.

1:06:32

Have like this level of propaganda stick denial that plays into

1:06:35

the game. It's very very yeah when I wonder how much

1:06:37

they can do with. The. As

1:06:39

it's very I like

1:06:41

anything that. That

1:06:43

is that allows us to be played.

1:06:47

In. A Meadow way in real life, you

1:06:49

know, and I mean like him. If there's

1:06:51

like some way to and it's engage with

1:06:53

it beyond just the game, without it feeling

1:06:55

like without a feeling like destiny where it's

1:06:57

like a second job, where you usually have

1:06:59

the pathogen every they have to dedicate a

1:07:01

certain amount of time to. Know.

1:07:04

Every week to unlock staff and I like

1:07:06

the I like the fact that. This

1:07:08

is a game that time is. It

1:07:11

follows you everywhere only in the sense that

1:07:13

like you constantly hear interesting things about it

1:07:15

and even just in this article was written

1:07:17

from the perspective of this is like written

1:07:19

with some flavor that you don't know you

1:07:22

don't normally see. In. Articles

1:07:24

covering games like these: it's cool idea. I like to whether

1:07:26

they're teasing the stuff I like of the way that they're

1:07:28

dropping all the stuff. I like that the with Alex with

1:07:30

the testing this of to and like I've I think. This

1:07:34

is how the the buddy got leads

1:07:36

to write is what? weren't they just

1:07:38

appearing in certain mattress Pm? says.

1:07:40

Very cool, Just a very

1:07:43

organic. Or

1:07:45

organic way is of updating without.

1:07:48

Pay. But here's a weekly update. Or

1:07:50

like one of those like splash screens by pop

1:07:53

up at the beginning of a game. It's like

1:07:55

years this week in Hell divers and it's like

1:07:57

there's a buddy. Or like there's

1:07:59

Blu B. And.

1:08:01

Fetishists like. Authentically. Playing off

1:08:03

a social media was is awesome. I. Love

1:08:05

it! There's. Been

1:08:08

an update to I was looking on

1:08:10

the Hell Divers twitter account. There's.

1:08:12

A posts from one hour ago as breaking. In.

1:08:14

A shocking turn of events: Sightings of

1:08:16

flying bugs have been reported from the

1:08:18

frontlines. According to the Ministry of Truth,

1:08:20

no previous sightings had ever been recorded

1:08:23

in history. Which

1:08:25

is just it's it's very, it's very funny. In

1:08:28

school they really have a good things going on

1:08:30

over there. Was about them

1:08:32

a little while to. In terms of

1:08:34

sales, Or I. Thought.

1:08:37

I'd read this is from Bloomberg. It.

1:08:40

Looks like power Old is looking to come

1:08:42

to other councils. Of course, Power Old. Came.

1:08:45

To x much one acts like series and. Windows,

1:08:48

Early this year, In early

1:08:50

Access format is apparently sold more than

1:08:52

fifteen million units in addition to the

1:08:55

people that are playing a game paso.

1:08:57

He. Would assume that day maybe as twenty

1:08:59

five million players at some point obviously broke

1:09:02

all sorts of. Records. Or

1:09:04

appear at a high on. The.

1:09:06

Steam Concurrent Shards is still.

1:09:08

Heavily. Played to this day. And.

1:09:11

It was a girl the migrate over the place

1:09:13

in according to I'm. Reporting.

1:09:15

From Bloomberg although it doesn't use place isn't specifically

1:09:17

to says other platforms. You have to assume. Switch

1:09:20

would be a pretty interesting place to put it

1:09:22

to, although. Would. There be an issue

1:09:24

there. I'm. I think

1:09:26

than ten it would just want money personally if they have no

1:09:28

legal problem with it out on away when allow that. So I'm

1:09:30

what are your thoughts hear about. This doesn't a. Power.

1:09:33

Oh come on over. Would you like to see on Playstation to

1:09:35

make sense to com the Playstation? Everyone can make a lot of

1:09:38

money over there. Yeah, I think

1:09:40

when we talked about this originally I and

1:09:42

and maybe the since I was out there

1:09:44

I wasn't sure if they had made a

1:09:46

deal with X Box for some term of

1:09:48

exclusivity or if it was a case where

1:09:50

for a while Playstation was very hesitant about

1:09:52

putting games that were early access. my I

1:09:54

think that's what is his I I I

1:09:56

assume that as well for the first thing

1:09:58

he said at first light. Like that, the money

1:10:00

deal but it doesn't seem like that. It really does seem like it was

1:10:02

his early access. Right, but it's

1:10:05

interesting because that game, Tam

1:10:07

Tam, I believe team via

1:10:09

early access in less, we're

1:10:11

dealing with the semantics. A

1:10:13

and in development game vs one

1:10:15

that they're saying oh it's the

1:10:18

early. Access for and it's

1:10:20

to were adding new things. I I

1:10:22

wonder what the actual definition of what

1:10:24

Sony requires in the background, but yes,

1:10:27

surprising. That it wasn't on

1:10:29

Playstation and clearly it was sold.

1:10:31

A lot of it was available

1:10:33

on Playstation Day one I'm curious

1:10:35

about that are not tempt him

1:10:37

Power old. Being. A game

1:10:39

that really was a as a

1:10:41

dice game of being a year

1:10:44

and now known as a it's

1:10:46

Nobody cares about it anymore but

1:10:48

we'd I think overall the the

1:10:50

huge explosion has moved on so

1:10:52

I wondered how successful obese early

1:10:54

enough to be worth it still.

1:10:57

but. A Here's what

1:10:59

The future The game. I had a

1:11:01

good time playing it. It was definitely.

1:11:03

Early access in a lot of ways and

1:11:06

I got to the point where I decided

1:11:08

I would like to dissuade to check it

1:11:10

out again but having place a some elbow

1:11:12

with cross play I think would be. Pretty.

1:11:15

Cool since this game clearly.

1:11:17

A lot of people who are into the some

1:11:20

email. Servers. doing some math,

1:11:24

So. They've

1:11:26

sold. would say fifty million copies, A

1:11:28

thirty dollars apiece. In. Addition the game

1:11:30

has money that the guy which will ever was. So.

1:11:33

That's forged. And fifty million dollars.

1:11:35

grocer. Three fifteen. That. Once.

1:11:38

Saw really would be they'll be gross.

1:11:40

We'll we'll now taxes wherever but with

1:11:42

bombs. Teams caught taken. The. Game

1:11:44

costs. Six point, seven million

1:11:46

dollars to me. So they made

1:11:48

over three hundred million dollars in profits. or

1:11:51

meet him. Now an important thing, the knowing

1:11:53

about this is. The they

1:11:55

say this in the in the Bloomberg article. Quotes.

1:11:58

For. Now pocket. Which is the developer. Is.

1:12:01

Content to remain an independent studio in maintaining and

1:12:03

to me to the as of intimacy but small

1:12:05

team the companies and toss to bring power to

1:12:07

more platforms be a seeming game has us what

1:12:10

we thought about and to be opening consider officer

1:12:12

partnership or acquisition. It has not, however,

1:12:14

engaged acquisition talks with Microsoft. This.

1:12:16

Is what I thought was interesting though. this

1:12:18

is according to their studio lead says quote.

1:12:21

We are and will remain a small studio.

1:12:23

I want to make multiple games. Big budget

1:12:25

Aaa games are not for us. And.

1:12:28

Quote. I think that people would look at

1:12:30

us and be like damn, dude, you guys made an

1:12:32

extraordinary amount of money, but can you rely. On

1:12:35

that part. And. The answer is is

1:12:37

that they probably can for their next game. But.

1:12:40

No. I it's still.

1:12:43

People. Say like why not just make ten six point seven

1:12:45

million dollar games and see if any than sticking to be like

1:12:47

the likelihood is that none of them. Will. Stick

1:12:49

and you may make a lot of money on a lot

1:12:51

of money comparably be your name again. This is what I

1:12:53

get back into the held I was. It's like still. Stuck.

1:12:56

Is enough money? They want more.

1:12:59

This is an amazing margin. To

1:13:02

on. The head a hold of. Our

1:13:04

during the one say about Power of Press did

1:13:06

you as you there have you played it both

1:13:08

of you at I played I played a little

1:13:10

bit of it. I wouldn't say that I wouldn't

1:13:12

say. I wouldn't say I played it

1:13:15

like in the way that like a lot

1:13:17

of people are supposed to, I'd fucked around

1:13:19

the controls. I crafted a couple things I

1:13:21

got a senses you know the you I

1:13:23

and movement know as stuff. I think I

1:13:25

play different. A million hour and a half

1:13:27

max. All said and done.

1:13:29

met again for me. Not. My

1:13:32

style game. Definitely early access. Very very jank.

1:13:34

I might be curious enough to pick it

1:13:36

up when it's modest. Got it's one point

1:13:38

or whatever. but. Ah,

1:13:41

I don't know. I'm just not a survival.

1:13:44

Game. Person exists in this aspect

1:13:46

of have there been drawn to

1:13:48

like.the aura arc. Or.

1:13:50

Woot woot was that other one does like another one

1:13:52

that such Huge. Dot U S is.

1:13:55

Rust. I ask because dust, for some

1:13:57

reason. But.

1:14:00

You know defy one for is not fiasco wellness see

1:14:03

ah yes I I don't know if not something that

1:14:05

I'm into soon but it it does make sense for

1:14:07

to be in place and I mean the i feel

1:14:09

you can make a bullet a millionaire especially. Especially

1:14:12

us. When. It comes to position,

1:14:14

there's like a handful of a quality of life changes

1:14:17

that weren't there on the. Series. X

1:14:19

and. Original launch. I

1:14:21

think I would go a great deal.

1:14:24

Or that would go. Great way to have a mega that. And

1:14:27

enticing offer for people. but. May.

1:14:29

I can't say I'm interested in it personally.

1:14:33

I. This. Was announced. I don't really

1:14:35

care about this personally, but apparently people really into

1:14:37

it. We be

1:14:40

loath to ignore it. So. I

1:14:42

think this is an hour to Gdc actually, which is

1:14:44

unusual. But. Marvel is. Publishing.

1:14:47

Or have or I guess having license

1:14:49

the game to Sky Dance for something

1:14:51

called Nineteen Forty Three Rise of Hydra

1:14:53

on it's website. It's described

1:14:55

as quote in the cast of War

1:14:57

Worlds collide Captain America and Azeri the

1:14:59

Black Panther of the nineteen forties. Was.

1:15:01

Overcome their differences in form an uneasy alliance to

1:15:04

confront their common enemy. Fighting alongside

1:15:06

Gabriel Jones of the Howling Commandos and

1:15:08

Natalie A were conned in Spy Embedded

1:15:10

in occupied Paris, they must join forces

1:15:12

to stop a sinister plot. That. Threatens

1:15:14

discern the havoc of World War Two into the

1:15:16

ultimate rise of Hydra, and quota comes out yellen.

1:15:18

Twenty Five. It's on. on. Real five, I believe.

1:15:21

And there's no platforms announcer. but I simply season five

1:15:23

will be one of them. James.

1:15:26

Hill has written in said hey bossy blasters have

1:15:28

a pussy Blesses I'm sorry Have you guys seen

1:15:30

clips of Marble? Nineteen Forty Three, The Rise Potter,

1:15:32

The Shit looks. Damn. Near live action

1:15:34

have a great one. Doesn't.

1:15:37

What's key about this for a lot of people is

1:15:39

the inclusion of. None. Other than Skype

1:15:41

and his own Amy Hennig. Who.

1:15:43

Has been kind of waiting in the wings. And.

1:15:45

Has been unable to get her projects out. And.

1:15:48

I. Do think it's been so long now? Kind of

1:15:51

where it's like, I don't know. If

1:15:53

this means anything anymore but we'll see, I think it

1:15:55

will. An uncharted was remarkable of course. So.

1:15:57

What are your thoughts? He? Are you interested in this game? People

1:16:00

seem to be really stoked about it. I'm just so

1:16:02

over obviously all this superhero shit Yeah,

1:16:05

I watched the trailer in the last night

1:16:08

of this morning and it definitely

1:16:10

the graphics are very impressive I think

1:16:12

they were showing it off at something

1:16:14

that epic was doing as a unreal

1:16:16

5 showcase type thing and it

1:16:19

looked very impressive I Gotta

1:16:22

say that I think what interests me

1:16:24

the most about this game is the

1:16:26

setting being in World War

1:16:28

two. I think that that seems pretty

1:16:30

cool because that man that first Captain America

1:16:33

movie of the

1:16:35

phase one Marvel stuff that

1:16:37

was Maybe not my favorite

1:16:39

but one of the ones I like more just because

1:16:41

the setting was so unique for that world So

1:16:44

I am interested in it

1:16:46

from that perspective But I

1:16:48

want to see gameplay of course always it's

1:16:50

interesting no hype though until

1:16:53

gameplay Yeah, fair enough any

1:16:55

interested in this Chris Yeah

1:16:58

On a surface level like I like I

1:17:01

don't disagree with people who are talking about how impressive

1:17:03

the visuals are I do think that's very true like

1:17:05

it it's some of the most impressive facial

1:17:08

animation that I've seen in a while it's where

1:17:10

I couldn't really There

1:17:13

were parts of it where I'm like that actually does

1:17:15

look live-action And it's not just people saying that which

1:17:18

I find I find a lot of people say that

1:17:20

for a lot of games that just Have a high

1:17:22

fidelity, but it doesn't actually look real

1:17:25

It just looks very detailed which is I think

1:17:27

those are different things But

1:17:30

yeah, the animation work is superb. I just I'm

1:17:32

kind of with you Colin where I I Do

1:17:37

not give a shit about superheroes at all

1:17:39

at this point Even

1:17:42

slightly so in 1943

1:17:44

awesome year awesome time awesome place for

1:17:46

us for awesome setting for a game

1:17:49

Awesome, but the fact that I have to

1:17:51

go there with the caveat of being Captain

1:17:53

America fighting with the Black Panther is

1:17:58

Pretty Infuriating to me. Yeah,

1:18:00

they're so I don't. I like you

1:18:02

Like doesn't said though. If

1:18:05

a game looks good, wonder if if the

1:18:07

gameplay is the actual gameplay. Last year Them

1:18:09

Yeah, I'm willing to give it a shot,

1:18:11

but this alone hasn't sold me. all. it's

1:18:13

really done is. Make. Me:

1:18:15

Kind of impressed with. The. Animation

1:18:18

quality of it which is objectively very good. Or

1:18:21

very very very good me as a hard know for me for

1:18:23

the same reason where I'm just I'm here. what it looks like

1:18:25

I'm that. I

1:18:27

can. But. The The Only Superhero

1:18:29

again and I'm really interested in.

1:18:32

Maybe potentially as Iron Man who they like

1:18:34

that character is a scene was Spiderman like

1:18:37

of Spiderman Iron Man, Batman. That.

1:18:39

Kind of stuff I'll I'll still probably mess

1:18:42

around with, but the whole wider. Universe.

1:18:44

Singing I Don't. Buy A.

1:18:47

I don't even like wolverine are plagues. it's coming from

1:18:49

Insomniac, but even that I'm like I don't really give

1:18:51

a shit about this to be honest with you, as

1:18:53

it's like it's on the Alexei. Be more excited about

1:18:55

it. I just don't know how many of these games

1:18:57

really get. This is it's like how many. Earnest.

1:19:01

Like aren't people tired of this? Don't.

1:19:03

They want something it. it's like all

1:19:05

Star Wars, all Marvel movie. I think

1:19:08

you'd like me Juri where is the

1:19:10

flavor and that and the texture and

1:19:12

the. The. Variety. To.

1:19:14

You're asking that have been. You're asking that have an

1:19:17

industry though that bad. Indulges

1:19:19

itself on. You

1:19:22

know, an annualized Poke Him On game that

1:19:24

has barely any effort put into it. And

1:19:26

and annual I called Duty Games that are

1:19:28

more or less kind of to say it

1:19:31

unites A if if there's ever. If.

1:19:33

There was ever an

1:19:35

industry to lend itself well

1:19:38

to the seer repetitions

1:19:40

of. Of. Marvel and Zebra

1:19:42

Yourself It is unfortunately video games. I

1:19:45

say that with love for the industry, but. If

1:19:50

it is, it's not that I have an

1:19:52

aversion to things going on forever because I

1:19:54

don't like. I really have this. I don't

1:19:56

have an aversion to. Perpetual.

1:19:58

Licenses And Franchises. But. I

1:20:00

think of it morally James Bond or something where it

1:20:02

seems. And. I'm

1:20:04

out in about it all but it seems more taste

1:20:06

was like we have these generations of bond than within

1:20:09

their their these different films is one every few years

1:20:11

and they're of the book rise in the Beginning rather

1:20:13

as. And. If I

1:20:15

okay, that's cool and that's the way. I would

1:20:17

even like things like Uncharted to continue as they

1:20:19

continue with Chassis Drake, whatever. Like that's cool. it's

1:20:21

been so long, it's just the repeatability of it.

1:20:23

Happening too soon is the problem. It's not.

1:20:26

That there isn't a marble game. Every few

1:20:28

years I'll be great. It. Though

1:20:30

it's I was the case it just people to the

1:20:33

biggest. Why do you

1:20:35

want to ring so much out of out of the market though?

1:20:37

I mean it's obvious you wanna make a of money, but I

1:20:39

think it's dangerous. Personally, I. Think

1:20:41

you're overreacting yourself. And I just.

1:20:43

I just don't. I don't know what. I

1:20:46

know what, What interesting gameplay

1:20:48

possibilities Captain America presents really?

1:20:52

That's. Kind of us live the curiosity for me where

1:20:54

I'm just like out what are you gonna have this

1:20:56

guy dude, it's. More. Fun than

1:20:58

swing around like Spiderman like I

1:21:01

can't fathom. Because.

1:21:03

You just the guy. He's a really strong guy

1:21:05

but he's that like enemy like superman to your

1:21:07

straw Jozy like a really jack to amazon has

1:21:09

beat us will just be playing a game about

1:21:11

really healthy person. To. Like

1:21:13

a sealed. With a C I get

1:21:16

it has of a shield shield is the coolest

1:21:18

part that he can throw in. like bounces off

1:21:20

guys off. But outside of that. And

1:21:23

then who is Hydra? This is the that They are.

1:21:25

They like other nazis. Ear.

1:21:28

They're like Nazi nazis. I

1:21:30

think is gonna like the i'm trying to

1:21:32

remember there's going to these people so mad

1:21:35

because as are not knowing why why. It's

1:21:37

just weird that you would go to World

1:21:39

War Two and then invent. A

1:21:41

bad guy. Like. right?

1:21:44

Yeah, Eric a few good ones

1:21:46

to choose from here. I think the idea as

1:21:48

ugly ideas town like an Assassin's Creed Templars thing

1:21:50

where it's I kind of this ancient thing that's

1:21:52

been around for a long time that's been pulling

1:21:54

the strings of like a lot as. A

1:21:57

lot of evil things that ben occur in

1:21:59

real life. You.

1:22:01

Know I guess I think like the nazis or like. An.

1:22:05

Incarnation of High Jar Something.

1:22:07

Me how I understood it from like the

1:22:09

movies and like my limited understanding of. This

1:22:13

fucking Universe. Here we go. Call

1:22:15

on. Originally a Nazi organization that

1:22:17

led by the Red Skull during

1:22:19

World War Two, Hydras, nine over

1:22:21

in turned into a neo fascist

1:22:23

international crime syndicate. By. Baron

1:22:26

Wolfgang von Struck or.

1:22:29

Something out like shades a Cobra in some

1:22:31

sense. It's interesting. The. Yeah,

1:22:34

you. Daughter. Although.

1:22:36

I guess Cobras more overtly third over

1:22:38

terrorists and some sense. but. I.

1:22:41

Don't know, I I don't. It's so

1:22:43

funny. Like the top ten adversaries to

1:22:46

western civilization of all time, right? Three

1:22:48

of them. Are. In.

1:22:51

World. War Two already. And. One of them

1:22:54

as. Potentially. The biggest into

1:22:56

the nazis. So. You don't need to get

1:22:58

a cuter than that. Though. Thanks. Yes,

1:23:01

So we only a matter what is Hydra

1:23:03

yet Lol it's it's hard to. it's hard

1:23:05

to bring modern children new movie theater where

1:23:07

where they're not they're playing. I'd say you

1:23:10

see if I used to be fine for

1:23:12

and any I just i melt nazi faces

1:23:14

off. I don't know why. But.

1:23:16

The problem now. But. I. Think we need

1:23:19

we need to. Terminology is now and yeah them. In

1:23:21

other words as that's what I want. The last used

1:23:23

to be the bad guys and lot of things. It's

1:23:25

just that, like years where you're in nineteen, forty three,

1:23:27

any. You're. Already they're here. They're right.

1:23:29

That's exactly right. You're You're not gonna grab his eyes.

1:23:32

You're. Not gonna grab a slice a New York? Come

1:23:34

on, your their the right right? Don't be stupid

1:23:36

to grab a slice. It's supposed to be able

1:23:38

to really sit in Germany with no problems. Grab.

1:23:41

A Nazi. A

1:23:45

one because of sick of you I wanted to know

1:23:47

what you thought of. This is the random thing that

1:23:50

would point to. As I

1:23:52

was a samurai's Marcus laid off. Yeah.

1:23:54

That's right. Yeah, because I want to say letter. Yeah.

1:23:57

But it's not a member of a H I think either says

1:23:59

I may be able to. Yeah, Lato.

1:24:02

So he was the art director at Bungie

1:24:04

for a really long time and the original

1:24:06

Halo games and on Destiny I think as

1:24:09

well. He went over to EA and

1:24:12

was headlining their Ridgeline Games brand

1:24:14

for a while and they were

1:24:16

going to make a single player

1:24:18

battlefield game. And so

1:24:21

he randomly quit and then a few

1:24:23

days later they just laid everyone at the team off

1:24:25

which apparently according to his public prognostications and

1:24:27

I don't know for sure he wasn't aware that that was

1:24:29

going to happen. But I just thought

1:24:31

this was interesting. He said this on Twitter, quote,

1:24:33

not been saying much here since I don't have

1:24:35

anything positive to say about EA. My

1:24:38

recent departure and how so many including my team

1:24:40

are suffering due to the industry's sweeping layoffs end

1:24:42

quote. What do you make of that? It's

1:24:44

very, just a passing comment but I wonder

1:24:46

if you take anything from that. Yeah,

1:24:49

I mean, I

1:24:52

really love these original Bungie guys. Like

1:24:54

they're candor so wild. But

1:24:56

yeah, I mean it's disappointing. That was one

1:24:58

of the more interesting things that EA had

1:25:00

lined up in my opinion was that single

1:25:03

player battlefield project from this guy and his

1:25:05

team and so for that to be kind

1:25:07

of done with is pretty

1:25:09

disappointing and really from

1:25:12

my estimation pretty bad for EA considering that was, I

1:25:15

mean you had that and then you have

1:25:17

these struggling Bioware games that I don't imagine

1:25:19

are, like

1:25:21

we just went over. I don't imagine

1:25:23

are particularly confidence

1:25:28

boons. So like, I don't know. I

1:25:30

think I'm

1:25:33

really curious as to what even happened because why

1:25:35

even go through the trouble of getting this guy

1:25:38

to be on this project? Like

1:25:41

have the economic realities really shifted that drastically in

1:25:43

the short period of time that they've been working

1:25:45

on this? Like it can't be that they were

1:25:47

taken by surprise by how much a project like

1:25:49

this would cost or I just

1:25:52

wish I knew more but I do think

1:25:55

it's cool to see somebody just kind of be honest. Like

1:25:58

yeah, I don't got anything positive to say about EA. There's

1:26:00

a level of brassiness there that's pretty... I

1:26:03

love... I want... It

1:26:05

reminds me of E3 in the early 2010s, you

1:26:07

know what I mean? It

1:26:12

felt like the industry was a little bit smaller and so you could

1:26:14

get away with a lot more and there were a lot more

1:26:16

people who were a lot more candid. Whereas

1:26:18

now, it's an attitude of

1:26:20

a bygone era now. Or

1:26:22

at least that I've seen. A

1:26:24

lot of people have flowery PR tweets whenever

1:26:26

something like this happens. It's

1:26:29

nice to have people who are a little bit more

1:26:31

open. Well, I mean, if he was

1:26:34

truly blindsided by the complete

1:26:36

closure of his team, I mean, that's a lack

1:26:38

of a breakdown of communication. Yeah.

1:26:41

That would be pretty major. And if like it

1:26:43

was on the razor's edge and him leaving kind

1:26:45

of caused them to make that decision, that's a

1:26:47

lot to live with. And

1:26:49

maybe he would have made a different decision. Again,

1:26:51

that's all just... I don't know, maybe that's

1:26:54

true, but it's just my thoughts on

1:26:56

that. I will say that it's

1:27:00

unfortunate that... And it's not

1:27:02

just because he's talking shit about EA. I actually... Well,

1:27:05

I don't really have a problem with EA. I think EA is a lot better than they

1:27:07

used to be in a lot of different ways. So

1:27:09

I'm not talking shit from that point of view, but

1:27:12

it's kind of a bummer that it requires either people

1:27:14

like us that are just kind of outside, but not

1:27:17

very powerful, or people in positions

1:27:19

of power, but that are independently rich. Right.

1:27:22

And it's funny, like it is, to be able to say what they need

1:27:25

to say and put out what needs to

1:27:27

be put out. It's just kind of a bummer that... And

1:27:29

maybe it shouldn't be so safe, but it's not safe enough

1:27:32

for people to kind of speak their minds like that. He

1:27:34

made a lot of money, right? Like a

1:27:37

lot of it. Presumably. And I would imagine...

1:27:39

So, I mean, considering when he was there, he was there for

1:27:41

the sale to Microsoft, he was there when they spun off, he

1:27:44

was there for the Activision deal, he was there... I

1:27:47

would assume someone in that position made tens of millions

1:27:49

of dollars. I mean, that's my

1:27:51

prediction. At

1:27:53

that point, you're working because you want to, not

1:27:55

because you have to. And so it

1:27:57

gives you a level of latitude, which I think is pretty...

1:28:00

cool. And

1:28:02

I just

1:28:04

wish more people were more comfortable saying more, but I

1:28:06

understand why they're not, especially in a time when jobs

1:28:08

are truncating, where people are losing jobs and will simply

1:28:10

not get another job in the industry. And

1:28:12

it's not just games. I know

1:28:15

my brother's really struggling in animation right now too. That

1:28:18

industry is in even worse shape. And

1:28:20

so it's just a bummer that

1:28:22

there are too many people that want

1:28:25

to make games and there are not enough ways

1:28:27

for them to do that and they have to kind of move on. All

1:28:31

right. Two more things quickly. Video

1:28:34

Games Chronicle reports that the Callisto Protocol

1:28:36

developer Striking Distance has announced

1:28:38

a new spinoff game tentatively titled according to

1:28:40

then Project Bird's Eye. It says

1:28:43

on Video Games Chronicle, quote, Project Bird's Eye is an

1:28:45

action roguelike game set in the same universe as the

1:28:47

2022 survival horror game, which Striking

1:28:49

Distance says is being worked on by a small

1:28:51

team alongside its next full scale game. And

1:28:54

then in a video, which

1:28:56

they're kind of citing someone from the

1:28:59

team says, quote, we're excited to introduce you to something

1:29:01

we've been working on. Since it's still in development, we're

1:29:03

referring to it internally as Project Bird's Eye. It's our

1:29:05

take on a fast action roguelike experience set in Black

1:29:07

Iron Prison. Last year, a small group

1:29:10

of us began working on a passion project that was born

1:29:12

out of our obsession with easy to pick up and play

1:29:14

games, but fun to master roguelikes. We love

1:29:16

the world we created with the Callisto Protocol and want

1:29:18

to keep playing in that sandbox and Black Iron Prison

1:29:20

is the perfect future punk playground for the team's vision.

1:29:22

And then they continue, quote, as you

1:29:24

can tell, this isn't the Callisto Protocol 2. Think of it

1:29:27

as a side quest that really resonated with the team. It

1:29:29

let us expand the world of the Callisto Protocol and

1:29:31

stretch our creative muscles on something a

1:29:33

bit different without impacting development on our next AAA

1:29:35

game. So much of the Callisto Protocol's

1:29:38

post-launch journey was shaped by the community. It made sense

1:29:40

to bring everyone in during an early phase of development

1:29:42

to see if its concept clicks with you as much

1:29:44

as it has with us. So

1:29:47

of course, this studio was founded by Dead Spaces Glenn

1:29:50

Schofield who left. So

1:29:52

he's not there anymore. And

1:29:55

they also laid off 32 of their 90 headcount after The

1:30:00

launch and kind of the close to protocol sold millions of

1:30:02

copies is actually sold I think five million copies or something

1:30:04

But they they ended up losing money on

1:30:06

it. So they're working on an unreal

1:30:08

five game now I assume it's not a close to protocol

1:30:10

game. Maybe it will be closer protocol, too I mean, that

1:30:12

would be pretty bold to just try it again. So I

1:30:14

think they were onto something. I just don't think it was

1:30:17

Extremely well executed, but it was it was fine Any

1:30:20

interest in this game from either of you let's go to you Dustin. We haven't heard from you

1:30:22

in a minute. I haven't played Callisto

1:30:26

protocol yet. So I

1:30:28

have not a non a negative way

1:30:30

just zero interest in this game I am curious what

1:30:32

they'll try to do if they'll try to give it

1:30:35

another shake with the second one But it

1:30:38

came at a time where when that

1:30:40

game came out I was playing something else and

1:30:42

then dead space came out the remake and everyone

1:30:45

was talking how much better dead space remake was

1:30:48

It's like well I

1:30:50

may get to it at some point but I don't I

1:30:52

don't feel like I need to run and go play it

1:30:54

but Yeah, I

1:30:56

forgot about Glenn Schofield leaving after

1:30:58

that so must feel You

1:31:02

know he created and started

1:31:04

that company So they they released

1:31:07

his first game and now they have

1:31:09

a new leader something So it's

1:31:11

good to see them already just back on it

1:31:14

even with just a smaller project as they work

1:31:16

towards something bigger Chris

1:31:18

as I recall you did play Callisto protocol. I did too.

1:31:20

I platinumed it And just to

1:31:22

correct myself This is according to

1:31:24

Wikipedia Quote the game failed to

1:31:27

meet sales expectations of Kraft on who's the publisher

1:31:29

who expected sales of 5 million units But lowered

1:31:31

their estimate to reaching 2 million units within 2023

1:31:34

So not quite as lofty as I thought anyway

1:31:36

go ahead Chris. Are you interested in returning to

1:31:38

the Callisto protocol universe? I mean

1:31:42

I Think there

1:31:44

was something there with the first Callisto protocol. I think

1:31:48

I kind of enjoyed it. I thought it was I thought

1:31:50

there were some elements of it that were strange

1:31:53

and Especially like I remember

1:31:55

that dodging mechanic being like very odd, but

1:31:58

there was something about how odd it was that made it

1:32:00

a lot more interesting to me to

1:32:02

play than just another third-person action game.

1:32:05

There was something there that I felt

1:32:07

like they had a grasp

1:32:09

on, even if it wasn't fully realized.

1:32:12

I guess for me, the question is

1:32:14

now, it's like having some time to

1:32:16

not really think

1:32:18

about the Callisto Protocol for

1:32:20

quite some time now. Do I have

1:32:22

really any vested interest in returning to that

1:32:25

world or those characters? The answer is not

1:32:27

really. I'm curious as to what

1:32:29

that studio can do, maybe even with a similar

1:32:31

type of game. But I

1:32:35

can't say that the universe of the Callisto

1:32:37

Protocol really beckons me

1:32:39

in any real way. Although

1:32:41

this game, this

1:32:43

thing that they're talking about, this spin-off or

1:32:46

whatever the trailer is that they showed, artistically

1:32:50

it looks cool. I don't know if I'm necessarily

1:32:52

into playing it, but I

1:32:54

like the style of it. It's

1:32:56

a very, very, very, very, very, very different style

1:32:59

than the Callisto Protocol, which

1:33:01

I think is cool. It's smart to

1:33:03

give your universe versatility

1:33:05

in that way or

1:33:07

set the cadence of expectation where like, okay, yes,

1:33:09

this is our universe or whatever, but we can

1:33:12

do whatever we want visually or

1:33:15

stylistically to achieve the goal that

1:33:17

we want. That I think is cool.

1:33:19

I also think it's very low risk. I

1:33:22

also think it's very low risk given how

1:33:24

few people are invested in the Callisto Protocol

1:33:26

universe as it is. There's not a lot

1:33:29

of Callisto Protocol purists, I would imagine. There

1:33:31

is like a freedom and an experimentation that

1:33:33

kind of lends itself to that in

1:33:36

fairness. But yeah, I'm

1:33:38

rooting for Striking Distance. I love that name. I think

1:33:40

they can make a solid game.

1:33:45

And so I guess

1:33:47

all that really remains is waiting for the

1:33:49

time to come

1:33:51

for them to really, really something that hits. And I

1:33:53

don't think it's possible. But

1:33:57

I just don't know what it's going to be.

1:33:59

I don't know if it's necessarily... really all that wise to do

1:34:01

a close-up protocol too, but that's also kind of

1:34:03

ballsy. Yeah I don't think

1:34:05

it's the right movie either, but maybe

1:34:08

make a different game, maybe again keep the universe

1:34:10

the same, but just do

1:34:12

a different game from some other perspective in that universe and

1:34:14

kind of have them interconnected. I think the game looks really

1:34:16

cool, but we'll see if it comes to fruition. It shouldn't

1:34:18

cost them too much to make, but it does look pretty

1:34:20

kinetic. So yeah go check it out if you guys want

1:34:23

to on YouTube. It's called Project

1:34:25

Bird's Eye First Look from the Striking

1:34:27

Distance Studios YouTube channel. Final

1:34:30

thing I'll just speak on quickly, I was sad to see this

1:34:32

is, and this was reported

1:34:34

by many outlets that have

1:34:36

that Japanese language

1:34:38

readers that can translate this

1:34:40

stuff for we Western audiences, but Matsumi

1:34:43

Inomata has passed away. She

1:34:45

was age 63. She's

1:34:48

well known as being the character designer of many

1:34:50

a Tales game going all the way back to

1:34:52

the second ever Tales game, which is Tales of

1:34:54

Destiny, which is my favorite Tales game. And

1:34:57

people that know, I guess,

1:35:01

the aesthetic of Tales will know,

1:35:03

like will appreciate the watercolory kind of.

1:35:06

It's the character

1:35:08

designs, if you're into Tales, in

1:35:10

my opinion, are as attached to

1:35:12

that series as a mono logos

1:35:15

are to Final Fantasy, where like it's a

1:35:17

very specific look. And you

1:35:19

can tell in terms of, she didn't

1:35:21

work on all of the games, all the Tales games, but many of

1:35:23

them, and she didn't work on Arise, which I thought was good, but

1:35:25

you can kind of tell, in my

1:35:28

opinion, that there's something missing there.

1:35:30

So it's unclear

1:35:32

why she, like what

1:35:34

she passed of, apparently her sister

1:35:37

reported it on Japanese social media,

1:35:39

again, age 63. And

1:35:42

she was in the industry since the 80s. So

1:35:45

RIP to you, I love Tales, and I'm sad to see that

1:35:48

that has happened. Okay,

1:35:51

let's get into the games we're playing. Chris,

1:35:54

you and I are both playing Final Fantasy 7 Remake, so

1:35:56

I guess we can start there. I'm gonna do a sit

1:35:58

down with Dagan next week on knockback, I believe. believe and

1:36:00

get into it deeply. And we

1:36:02

already did a podcast back in 2020 about it. But

1:36:06

I'm playing it again as you are. I

1:36:08

beat it the first time through, right? I

1:36:10

don't believe so, no. So do you

1:36:13

have any, I'm gonna kind of reserve what I have to say for

1:36:15

it. And I'm on chapter 14 now. And that's

1:36:17

kind of the last chapter where there's

1:36:20

like side quests and there's a lot of them. So

1:36:23

I'm just kind of cleaning this up and going through it, but then I'll probably beat

1:36:25

it in the next couple of days, maybe right when I get back from New York

1:36:27

and move on with my life. Do you have anything

1:36:30

you'd like to say about it? I

1:36:32

mean, I'm still pretty, like I opted.

1:36:36

So because I was kind of in already,

1:36:38

like relatively far, not super

1:36:40

far in relative to JRPG standards, but far

1:36:42

in enough that I was like,

1:36:44

I don't necessarily want to restart, but I do want to

1:36:46

kind of get reacquainted with the controls

1:36:48

and the systems and all that. So

1:36:50

I kind of I started a

1:36:53

new game for about like

1:36:55

two hours. And then I kind of jumped back

1:36:57

to my original save to continue just to, so

1:37:00

I'm at a point where I kind of grasp or

1:37:03

I'm back in that mode and zone. But

1:37:05

I haven't really progressed to new places from my

1:37:08

experience, much from when I've last played it. I'm

1:37:10

going to put more time into it this week

1:37:12

because I do want to kind of get

1:37:15

through and get into rebirth kind of as soon

1:37:17

as possible. But

1:37:21

I'm enjoying it. I'm playing it on the Steam Deck

1:37:24

through that through that, through that, what

1:37:26

is it, the remote play thing. And

1:37:28

it is such a good it is such a good

1:37:31

Steam Deck game. And by extension, I would imagine a

1:37:33

very good Portal game, too, if you've got that great

1:37:35

Internet situation where there's like just no latency playing

1:37:38

that game in bed is really, really cozy. So

1:37:41

I think about like the style of it and

1:37:43

the soundtrack and just the sound all of it

1:37:45

just like it kind of lulls you

1:37:47

to sleep, which is kind of a problem because it's competing

1:37:50

my progress a little bit because it's strangely relaxing, even when

1:37:52

it's like kind of chaotic. But

1:37:54

yeah, I'm getting through it. I

1:37:58

really I'm. Thankfully past

1:38:00

the point where I feel like I need to deal with

1:38:03

I haven't I haven't heard from Chad Lee in a while So

1:38:06

I'm feeling good about that. Good. Very

1:38:08

well. That's like a good fee. That's a good feeling That's

1:38:11

always a nice feeling With his

1:38:14

material usually powerful unusually smart,

1:38:16

you know makes the materia. He has the VR

1:38:18

kind of Call see him

1:38:20

thing going on with the summons and it's just a plot

1:38:24

Yeah, Dustin. Do you have anything you'd like to add

1:38:26

on about rebirth? Yeah, I

1:38:29

just saw last night PSA for everybody. There

1:38:31

is a patch out for the game That

1:38:34

is supposed to improve graphics quality

1:38:36

and they added two modes a sharp

1:38:39

and a soft mode for performance. I

1:38:42

Missed with this for five minutes. It came out right as I

1:38:44

was kind of getting ready to go to bed But I wanted

1:38:47

to check it out Just

1:38:49

for my very brief five minutes.

1:38:51

I didn't notice much of a difference But

1:38:54

I'll be able to report on that better next

1:38:56

week. They also made some

1:38:58

changes calling I saw that the mini

1:39:00

games didn't your inverted controls didn't

1:39:03

carry over to certain mini games And

1:39:05

so they have fixed that so you won't have an

1:39:07

issue when you play good. Yeah, that's a night It's

1:39:09

so nightmarish to think that that kind of stuff can

1:39:11

even get through with a no one Yeah,

1:39:15

it's weird like I Don't

1:39:18

know it's always strange It's like what I said

1:39:20

I played Zelda on Wii U back in the

1:39:22

day at e3 and you couldn't invert the controls

1:39:24

and it's and they're like Oh, we can't do

1:39:26

that yet. It's like, okay. Yeah,

1:39:28

I can't play Still there funny

1:39:31

thing too. If you guys remember there was the

1:39:33

yellow paint Debate yeah, because

1:39:35

there's yellow paint on some of the the different

1:39:37

things you can climb up. It's it's a little

1:39:39

on the nose But I get it There

1:39:42

is a small part of this game where you're

1:39:44

in a cave no spoilers where there is not

1:39:46

yellow paint on a wall That you can climb.

1:39:49

I was able to see it and and had

1:39:51

no problem, but apparently a lot of players They

1:39:54

had no idea that they could climb this wall and we're

1:39:57