One of the epigraphs in Adam Thierer’s book is an old Chinese saying: “The higher-ups have measures. Those lower down have countermeasures.” Join Ed and Ron for a fascinating look at a new breed of entrepreneurs, Evasive Entrepreneurs, the title of Adam Thierer’s latest book. Evasive entrepreneurs, those innovators who don’t always conform to social or legal norms, are using new technological capabilities to circumvent traditional regulatory systems, or at least to put pressure on public policymakers to reform or selectively enforce laws and regulations that are outmoded, inefficient, or illogical. They rely on a strategy of permissionless innovation in both the business world and the political arena, following the adage that “it is easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.” A remarkably timely book given the COVID-19 crisis and all the useless regulations that have been suspended.