Odyl Rozendaal is a psychologist and walking coach, who loves the summers in Amsterdam, getting lost in beautiful and old villages in France and there is something about beachlife, about the sea, the ocean that makes her feel humble.

She started with rollerskating to feel more connected to her inner child and feels the most free when she dances, something she never wants to give up.

In this episode we talk about the power and benefits of walking coaching, what Odyl means when she says she is a coach of colour, mum guilt and the difference between toxic positivity and positive psychology. We speak about loss and grief, precisely the death of Odyl’s dad who keeps popping up here and there throughout the entire episode. 

And while we are doing all of this our overall aim is to go against fixed labels, that put us into boxes and that not only prevent us from being ourselves but also denounce who we were when we started life. So we want to kick those boxes, smash the labels and stop justifying ourselves and over explaining. 

In doing so Odyl shares with us her in betweenness, the pain, the tears, her thought processes, doubts, describes things that were difficult. She reflects and connects and I am happy that we have had this conversation together.  

Host: Stella Saliari  

At Salt the Podcast my guests and I contest and deconstruct narratives, and passionately recreate with the aim to change systems and perceptions. We want to elevate a generation that is feminist, antiracist and empathetic. Our conversations flow into each other and leave room for the unexpected. Salt is love, community, solidarity, a collective, healing, creating. It is intersectional, full of stories, movement and change. It insists, evolves and transforms. It is a commitment.

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