0:07

This is not a video . When I was coming

0:09

out , we had to go outside the city .

0:12

We had to go travel , go out of town , beat down

0:14

doors . This was the first time Bill has ever gone

0:16

on this set .

0:19

He said here comes the token . This is not a

0:21

video . And out of my mouth I

0:23

said F you , my

0:25

fans are asking for positive women with

0:28

family and business . That's

0:31

what we bring to the show and

0:33

yet still it's like , oh , she's boring . It's my real

0:35

story . This is really who I am . I

0:38

build myself off a dollar and a dream

0:40

without a man's help , without a basketball

0:43

player . Particularly , the patriarchal

0:45

box says white , cisgender

0:48

males have defined for us

0:50

should be how we define

0:52

ourselves . That's what they were saying on the street . I

0:55

didn't say it . That's what they were saying on the street

0:57

the streets , the avenues and the

0:59

bulletin . Welcome , welcome

1:05

, welcome . You're now tuned into

1:07

another amazing edition of

1:09

Sanya on Air , where I unpack

1:11

celebrity pivotal moments and their milestones

1:14

. I'm your host , sanya Hudson-Pain

1:16

, and today I have an exciting

1:19

show for you . Now

1:21

, who isn't tuned into reality

1:23

television ? Each and every single

1:25

day , it seems like reality television

1:27

is taking over scripted television

1:30

. Now , if you're tuned into reality

1:32

television , like I am , that's my guilty

1:34

pleasure . What about you

1:36

? Is that your guilty pleasure too ? I watch the most

1:38

ratchet television , and then

1:40

we'll turn to a documentary right after Now

1:43

. Today's guest he

1:46

is part of own

1:48

television's Love and Marriage

1:50

DC . Now if you've been watching this

1:52

spin-off show , remember the first

1:55

of the Love and Marriage franchise

1:57

was Love and Marriage Huntsville . So

1:59

now we have Love and Marriage DC and

2:02

we're so used to the women leading

2:04

the narratives on these reality

2:06

shows , but now the husbands , they're

2:08

finding their voices and they're taking over

2:10

. So I have Jamie Tyler

2:13

III . Now you may know him and

2:15

his wife because they are super fabulous

2:17

, super amazing . His wife is Irana

2:20

Tyler , dressed to the nines

2:22

, dressed to the gods . Both of them . I

2:24

really look at them like this dynamic power

2:27

couple . Not only is he

2:29

a part of reality television , but during

2:32

his first season he was a detective

2:34

who was soon to retire

2:36

. Now he stepped fully into the retirement

2:39

zone , but just imagine being

2:41

a detective trying to arrest someone

2:43

. They're like wait a minute , didn't I see you on own

2:46

network last night arguing

2:48

with your wife , arguing with your other cast members

2:50

? So we're going to find out about

2:52

his firsts . How did he get

2:54

on reality television ? I really want

2:57

you to get to understand all of these

2:59

people behind the television

3:01

camera , because you

3:03

just see what they want you to see . But I'm going to

3:05

ask him a few questions , like when

3:07

was the first time you lost your virginity ? Those

3:10

are the type of questions I

3:12

want to know , so make sure that you stay

3:14

tuned in . But before I bring Jamie

3:17

onto this edition of Sonya On Air , I

3:19

have a few things that I want to talk about

3:21

. Now . There's this conversation

3:23

that is becoming a resounding

3:26

conversation on television

3:28

, across streaming platforms

3:31

and in real life black-owned

3:34

versus black targeted

3:36

, and I think that people are now starting

3:39

to understand the difference . You

3:41

see all of these shows with

3:43

an all black cast on

3:46

some networks that have the word bliggly

3:48

black in it , but it doesn't

3:50

mean that it is black-owned

3:52

. For example , the

3:54

Oprah Winfrey Network . Okay

3:57

, it just so happens that I have Jamie Tyler . His

3:59

show , love and Marriage DC , is on

4:01

the Oprah Winfrey Network . Now , when

4:03

the Oprah Winfrey Network first launched

4:06

, of course Oprah Winfrey was

4:08

the founder . She was a majority

4:10

shareholder , but

4:13

then things started happening . She sold

4:16

a huge portion of the

4:18

Oprah Winfrey Network

4:20

to the Discovery Channel . Did you

4:22

know that ? So , first

4:24

the Discovery Channel . They

4:26

came in in 2017 , and they bought

4:29

just a little bit of portion . Then

4:31

, in 2020 , they owned

4:33

73% of

4:36

the own network . Now , in

4:38

2024 , they

4:41

own 95%

4:44

of the network . So it is no longer

4:46

black-owned , which makes

4:48

it black targeted . Now let

4:51

me show you an example of black-owned

4:53

versus black targeted . Now

4:56

, this movie

4:58

is a remake and

5:00

it has been just on everyone's

5:02

radar for the past , I would say two months

5:04

. The color purple . Now

5:07

, many people would think that the color purple

5:09

was black-owned because

5:11

you have big names such as Oprah

5:13

Winfrey behind it . So therefore

5:15

, we showed up and we showed out

5:18

because of the all black cast Spent

5:20

our money , told the

5:22

kids you're not getting any Christmas presents because

5:25

I got to go see the color purple and guess what Remakes

5:28

billions , maybe even

5:30

millions , maybe billions , I don't know . But

5:33

we raised a lot of money for that film . But

5:35

guess what ? The

5:37

owners of that film is not

5:39

black-owned . So what happens

5:41

is a lot of these white corporations

5:44

, a lot of these white organizations . They

5:46

come in and they know what the black audience

5:48

is like , because we are the number one

5:50

dollar spenders , we watch

5:52

the most television , so they create

5:54

content that is geared strictly

5:57

towards us , but the money

5:59

goes to them . So we have to be mindful

6:01

of the messaging . We have to be mindful

6:03

of who we are giving our hard-earned

6:06

money to . Because I ain't got it , matter

6:08

of fact , I need to borrow five dollars , okay

6:10

. So once again , black-owned

6:13

versus black targeted . Now

6:16

talking about reality TV

6:18

, I don't know if it's becoming

6:20

entertainment or anger-teamant

6:23

. A lot of this reality

6:25

TV that I see it is so stereotypical I'm

6:27

talking about on the black side and

6:29

on the white side too , very , very stereotypical

6:32

. But let's just talk about the black

6:34

narratives on reality

6:36

television . Now , going

6:38

back to the Oprah Winfrey Network when

6:40

it was black-owned by Miss

6:42

Oprah Winfrey black-owned

6:45

versus black targeted when it was black-owned

6:47

, let me give you an example of some of the shows that

6:49

was on the own network Greenleaf

6:52

canceled . Queen

6:55

Sugar canceled

6:57

. David Makes man canceled

7:01

. Sweetie Pie's love me

7:03

, some Sweetie Pie's canceled

7:05

. Beverly's Full

7:07

House canceled

7:09

. Then , when all of those black

7:12

shows became

7:14

canceled , we started to see

7:16

the emergence of these black

7:18

targeted shows Ie

7:21

, love and Marriage , dc Love

7:23

and Marriage , huntsville Bell Collective

7:25

, ready to Love . The

7:29

content started to change . The

7:33

content started to change and then

7:35

I was looking at , well , talking

7:38

to some other business professionals who are in

7:40

the media space , the television space , and

7:42

they were saying that there's just some genre , some

7:44

content that is so difficult to sell

7:46

because black audiences aren't watching

7:48

. So therefore , this is why they are ushering

7:51

in so many reality

7:54

shows . Once again

7:56

, it's turning from entertainment

7:58

to anger-tainment . So

8:01

we have to be careful about what

8:03

we are watching on television

8:05

. Now just talk about other black shows

8:08

canceled in 2023 . And

8:10

we're only in three weeks , into January 2024

8:12

. Shows already canceled Issa

8:15

Rae's RAPISH I'm so , so

8:17

frustrated and angry about that . That

8:19

was a awesome , awesome

8:21

, awesome show . If you haven't caught

8:23

up on RAPISH , make sure that you go

8:25

to I forgot HBO Max . It's

8:28

on HBO Max . Make sure you catch

8:30

the first and second season because , darling

8:32

, like I said , it was canceled . Another

8:35

show GRONISH canceled . Everything's

8:38

trash starring Phoebe Robinson

8:40

Cancelled . Legendary

8:43

Cancelled . Kendrick

8:45

Cancelled . A Black Lady

8:47

sketch show Cancelled . The game

8:49

rebelled Cancelled . The Wonder

8:51

Year's remake Cancelled . We

8:57

really have to support black owned

8:59

and not just black targeted

9:01

. There is a huge , huge

9:04

difference . So please make sure that you

9:06

add those terms to your vernacular

9:08

, because black owned versus black

9:10

targeted is two different

9:12

things . We don't want people to create

9:15

content . To me . It's just like

9:17

I can't say this word because YouTube will

9:19

flag it , and I was about to

9:21

go onto my Sanya rant

9:23

. We have to make sure

9:25

that we are being mindful of the

9:27

subliminal messaging

9:29

that programming is

9:32

instilling into our minds

9:34

and our psyche , because then you find yourself behaving

9:37

that way . Now , like I told you at the onset of this

9:39

conversation , I watch some of the

9:41

most ratchet shows

9:43

, but there's a balance . There's

9:46

a balance . I can't fill my whole TV

9:48

viewership with a certain type of show , because

9:51

that kind of speaks to who I am . And

9:54

once again , the black experience is not

9:56

a monolith . It has so

9:58

many different layers and I'm just encouraging

10:00

you all to just tap into it . If

10:03

you haven't watched a documentary in

10:05

a few years , put it on your to-do

10:07

list for the week . We have to

10:09

start showing these television

10:12

executives that we are tuned into

10:14

all types of genre , not

10:17

just the stereotypical genre that they write

10:19

for us and it's not really

10:21

capturing our experience

10:23

. So make sure that you are mindful about

10:26

that . Now , carlos

10:29

King . He is producing a lot of shows

10:31

, a lot of reality shows on the

10:34

Oprah Winfrey network . I think he's

10:36

doing a great job . He's also kind of

10:38

tapped into the blogging

10:41

space . We don't want to call him a blogger

10:43

. Shout out to Dr Simone from Married to Medicine

10:45

, a past Sanya on your guest . But

10:49

sometimes it seems as if he has favorites

10:51

, especially when it comes to love and marriage

10:53

Huntsville . You can tell that

10:56

is his baby and

10:58

I just want to know from Jamie

11:00

Tyler's perspective is

11:04

Carlos giving love

11:06

and marriage DC the same amount

11:08

of love and attention that he's

11:10

given to love and marriage

11:12

, huntsville , and also Bell Collective

11:14

. So why don't we do this ? Let's take a

11:16

quick commercial break and

11:18

I'll be right back with Sanya on air

11:20

and also Jamie Tyler . Oh , I

11:23

forgot , I forgot . Like

11:25

I said , I've been out of the studio for quite some time . Make sure you subscribe

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, so let me tell you what happened

12:32

.

12:32

I had to be in DC today for a ceremony

12:35

, so

12:39

I'm flying back out my way to get on

12:42

my computer and

12:44

that Wi-Fi went out .

12:46

Oh it happens . I'm praying for the Wi-Fi

12:48

gods that it don't interrupt my computer

12:50

. So you're all good , Okay . Because

12:53

they call it me like the Wi-Fi .

12:55

I said , okay , what you telling me for ? I

12:57

said it's probably Xfinity . And

12:59

then I got a text saying sorry

13:01

, it's an out of junior neighborhood , it should

13:04

be backed by five o'clock .

13:07

I said oh my God , oh wow .

13:08

So I called my daughter because she lives near me . I said you

13:11

home . I said I need to come up

13:13

, you know , sit in here . She's like come on

13:15

, I'm here . But she got it . I love it .

13:17

I love it when the children

13:19

come to the rescue when Wi-Fi works .

13:22

I'm like . I'm like do you got a light

13:24

? Do you got a thing ? She's like I don't have none of

13:26

that .

13:27

I said all right , fuck it

13:29

, we'll make it work . We'll make it work . But let me

13:31

tell you something , jamie I'm a fan . I'm a

13:33

fan of you and your wife just

13:35

representing for Black Love on

13:37

Love and Marriage DC . How

13:40

did you get introduced to the show so

13:42

?

13:42

we got introduced by Monique Samuels and I'm like

13:45

I'm a fan of you and your wife just representing for Black Love on Love and Marriage , dc and

13:47

Charley , I

13:49

suppose to be this way , right , you're fine

13:51

. So

13:54

Fatoma had reached out to Raina

13:56

as a friend of the show with Monique

13:58

, one of her own . There were her before

14:01

she left as a friend . Uh-huh

14:03

, and soon as

14:05

she said she'd do it , she

14:08

left . So then Carlos called

14:10

Monique about love

14:13

and marriage and said I want y'all to you know

14:15

audition . And we

14:17

did and they picked us .

14:19

Wow . Well , speaking of Monique , you know I wasn't even

14:21

going to steer the question towards her , but

14:24

we definitely miss her on love and marriage

14:26

DC . You know she transitioned from there

14:28

from Potomac . Housewives of Potomac . Do

14:31

you miss Monique being on the show ?

14:33

I do miss Monique , because Monique

14:36

was the veteran in

14:38

that world we want and when

14:40

we came in she had like dudes

14:43

and dunks and she kind of broke it

14:45

down like we're not doing this to

14:48

have , you know , the Terry Chow emerges

14:50

and tap families and

14:53

we all met before the first

14:55

, I guess , production meeting

14:58

and we all want the same

15:00

page and as soon as she left it

15:03

went out the window . So

15:05

now everybody's beefing , as you can probably

15:07

see .

15:08

Yes , everybody's beefing and we're

15:11

highly anticipating the start of this

15:13

new season . But even

15:15

though Monique gave you the do's and the

15:17

don'ts , is there anything that you

15:20

and your wife did on the show that you watched

15:22

and you now regret ?

15:27

Now that I regret . I mean I just think

15:29

for us being together 30 plus

15:31

years , it was a

15:33

lot of old stuff that she

15:35

felt like she had to bring back up

15:38

for drama , because we

15:40

kind of at peace right now . So

15:42

it was like you want me

15:44

to talk about 15 years ago or 20 years

15:46

ago , Like what were we talking about ? Because

15:48

I wasn't going back down that road

15:50

. I mean , some of that stuff was really

15:52

really touching and I didn't want

15:55

to revisit it . So when she did

15:57

, I think I co-held

15:59

for some of my reactions season

16:01

one , and I was like I said

16:03

, I mean I did this for you , I

16:06

didn't care about reality , and

16:09

then you're going to go back down a memory lane

16:11

or some shit . I did when I was like 30

16:13

years old . I'm 50 , now

16:15

About to be 51 . And we still talking

16:17

about that . Well , they need

16:19

drama . And then I said , yeah , but I

16:22

ain't what I signed up for . And

16:24

you saw real reactions

16:26

from me in them , scenes Like , oh

16:28

, so you planned with me for a production , ok

16:31

.

16:33

You know , women , we never forget anything . We'll bring

16:35

up something .

16:37

And look , we don't either . So that's

16:39

why I'm going to come back on . You're

16:41

going to see us have another blow up of

16:43

old shit , and it's the

16:45

same . I

16:47

was like you want me to co-sign

16:50

your thoughts when I had those same thoughts

16:52

when the shoes was reversed and

16:55

you was like , oh you tripping , you tripping , you going to

16:57

know it's the same shit .

17:00

So how do you handle that ? Let's say , you know , cameras

17:02

rolling , Irana brings up

17:04

something that you did not know

17:06

about , Like do you just go with the flow or

17:09

do you wait until they say cut ? And you'd be like no , wait a

17:11

goddamn minute , Like what was that ? I think I show

17:13

.

17:13

I'm a react , really

17:15

All reaction . Yeah

17:18

, even at the reunion season

17:20

one , when they followed us walking

17:22

off set and

17:24

I said I told you stop playing me , you

17:27

going to make me really act up on

17:30

this reunion . And

17:32

then they turned out to me oh my god , he's going

17:34

to beat her up . I

17:36

learned in this world you can't win . Like

17:38

you got to really , really watch what you say

17:40

in New York to that microscope .

17:42

Yes , yes . So how did you take it ? Because

17:45

you know your life

17:47

is on display for all of reality television

17:49

. We see the dynamics of your relationship with

17:52

your wife and your children . How

17:54

do you handle some of the backlash that the

17:56

audience gives you ?

17:59

See for me , because I come from that

18:01

law enforcement background . I'm

18:03

used to confrontation and responding

18:06

, but it's in your face , it's not on

18:08

a computer , Right ? So I don't do

18:10

too good on reading trolls

18:13

or castmates talking . I'm like

18:15

I know if

18:17

I really really go in number one

18:19

. Instagram or Facebook will block

18:21

my account . Yes , so I'm learning

18:24

, talking to my big brother , I'll

18:26

be sure , who has been an icon

18:28

for decades , and he

18:30

talks me out the tree Because I'll be like man I'm about

18:32

to . He's like nah . He

18:35

said you got to think them

18:38

people you know to

18:41

keep it a hundred , like they here and

18:43

you're here and if you respond

18:46

, you just made them relevant or

18:48

more important than they really are and it's like

18:50

, why are you even stressing yourself out

18:52

? Respond .

18:53

Yes , yes , I just came to that conclusion

18:55

. Just last week , I

18:58

said I'm not going to waste my time arguing with

19:00

individuals and I know I would never be in the

19:02

same room with them . So why

19:04

am I wasting my time , my

19:06

energy , my black excellence

19:09

on people that I wouldn't even be in the same room

19:11

with ?

19:12

And you know what ? I can tell you one thing

19:14

like from this

19:16

, from being on TV now and

19:18

before TV , I would like comment

19:20

on like a big page or celebrity

19:22

page and then when you see

19:25

that celebrity like it or respond

19:27

, you're like oh shit , they were male conics

19:29

. So I feel like now , because

19:32

the word is , Jamie won't clap back , it

19:35

is what it is . And I see them now

19:38

just trying to get me Like I

19:40

read like a big page , my

19:42

post , you know

19:45

a video or a picture with me , like I

19:47

can respond on this , me in the damn post

19:49

, and then they'll say

19:52

watch that bald head evil man

19:54

respond . And then I see the comment . I'm

19:56

like no , I

19:58

ain't going to say no . And I was like this is

20:00

crazy , like it is , I'm

20:02

the one they posted , it's the flyer of the

20:04

show , yeah , and

20:08

I said fire , or whatever I say . See

20:11

, I told you look , look , he's so fresh he's so fresh

20:13

.

20:14

But do you think you've developed like thicker

20:16

skin since being on the show ? Because

20:18

you have to . You have to , especially

20:20

living in this space . Have you developed thicker skin

20:23

?

20:23

Yeah , you have to and I

20:25

was pretty popular prior to reality

20:28

TV from other stuff I had going

20:30

on , but , like I said , it

20:32

was more in your face . They wouldn't like talk

20:35

about me on these apps

20:37

. You know . If I see

20:39

them in an event , you know somebody

20:41

has something to say , they'll say it .

20:42

Right .

20:43

But now it's millions and

20:45

millions of people who just sitting in

20:48

their mother basement or wherever and

20:51

they can just try to get under your skin until you

20:53

be sure . Yes , so the

20:55

real answer to that is to

20:57

not read the comments .

20:59

And .

21:00

I'm a lot better now , but season

21:02

one , season one , I was on YouTube

21:04

like this , I don't know what to and

21:07

then I was on Instagram , then I was on Twitter

21:09

, then I was on United

21:11

. I was reading and I was going crazy Because

21:13

I was like , hey , and even what happened

21:15

? They trying to act like I tried

21:17

to like snatch your head . In that

21:19

one scene I was like what Y'all

21:22

even come up with this ?

21:24

Well , but you know we keep talking

21:26

about your wife , irana , and you mentioned you've

21:28

been married , for you said 30 years .

21:31

So we just hit 28 two

21:33

weeks ago .

21:34

Oh my gosh . So when you go

21:36

through those tough spaces

21:38

because of the show , how

21:40

do you navigate around the tough space to

21:42

get back to the love ?

21:45

I would say one thing about us is

21:48

we have battle tested

21:50

and we've been together

21:52

30 , 31 years . So

21:54

all

21:57

that we've yeah , I think we're talking about 93

21:59

. It's 2024 . So

22:02

, whatever you can imagine , we probably went

22:04

through Whatever went

22:06

through . We went through it Probably two or

22:08

three times . So with TV

22:11

, our thing is we're going

22:13

to give y'all raw Jamie

22:15

and Irana raw conversation , raw

22:17

reactions , and

22:20

I'm the type of guy if I don't like it , I'm going

22:22

to tell you I don't like it , if she don't like it , she going

22:24

to tell you . And I feel like , as a 28

22:27

, 30-something relationship , you

22:29

can have those conversations and then move on

22:32

. Once it's resolved , I

22:34

think people will get on these platforms and

22:37

try not to show

22:39

these conversations . They're

22:41

fake and I see it . When I'm shown

22:43

, I'm sitting there like how can y'all never have

22:45

a disagreement , right ? Or you

22:47

never tell your wife nah

22:50

, you wrong , like you shouldn't have said

22:52

that , you shouldn't have did that . I'm going

22:54

to tell Reina that she's going to

22:56

tell me you should . That's

22:58

what I mean is reality TV . Just

23:01

because she did something

23:03

that the whole audience and the cast

23:06

everybody said was messed up , I'm

23:08

not going to co-sign it on TV . I'm

23:10

going to be like , nah , you shouldn't have said that or you shouldn't

23:12

have did that . I'm going to say it . I'm not going

23:14

to wait till we get off camera and say , girl

23:16

, you know you wrong , that's

23:18

fake man and that's a lot of

23:20

that going on . It is Without

23:23

a chance .

23:24

And I think that's why the relationship between

23:26

you and your wife works on television

23:28

is because we see the different nuances , the

23:30

ups and the downs . My parents

23:32

were married for 50 years and

23:34

I know all too well about

23:37

the highs and the lows of a long-term relationship

23:39

and people need to see those things

23:41

Because this generation now

23:43

. They go through something difficult with their mate

23:46

or partner and they're quickly out

23:48

the door . But when you are in love with

23:50

someone , you go through the

23:52

times , good or the bad , and

23:54

you work it out . Now , talking about your

23:56

relationship , I learned somewhere

23:58

that your first date

24:00

to your girlfriend then but your wife

24:03

now , was at Wendy's . Is that true

24:05

?

24:06

So we weren't even girlfriend , boyfriend back

24:08

then . Okay , that was literally

24:10

like like a sneak

24:13

, a sneaky , creepy date , like Like

24:16

we work together . So it was like , can

24:18

I take you to lunch ? And it was like

24:21

we got to find a little spot in that area

24:23

in Virginia . Well , you know , you couldn't

24:25

go where everybody , my words , somebody sees , because

24:27

she still had a dude it

24:31

was Wendy's I

24:35

.

24:39

Love it because there's a conversation that's been

24:41

happening for about a month or two on social

24:43

media Like about the ideal first

24:46

date , and they were like Wendy's

24:48

was not one of them and I'm just like you know , if you

24:50

really like a person , no

24:52

matter where you go , it's all about you

24:54

and that person . So I was glad to

24:56

see that on the

24:58

Informal or unofficial first

25:00

date you took her to to Wendy's

25:02

. Do you remember what she ordered ?

25:04

I Mean

25:07

back to some 1993

25:12

. Yeah , I mean , it was probably Number number

25:14

one , number two that was . You know

25:16

, it was a burger and fried , that's what we .

25:19

Let me tell you , I ask that question because I have

25:21

a significant other that I also met in

25:23

1993 , and I remember

25:26

the clothing that he had on . Oh

25:28

, wow , yes , yes

25:31

.

25:32

So this day I

25:35

will say this Raina

25:37

, raina , the stylish woman you see

25:39

. Now , raina was like that when

25:42

I met her in pride to me mean , she was the

25:44

only girl that I have

25:46

seen wearing Versace Chanel

25:50

, like as a teenager , like

25:53

she was coming to work , in all

25:56

this stuff . You can tell , you can tell

25:58

she's always been that .

26:00

Yeah , she was most stylish all through high school you

26:02

can tell every year , but talk

26:04

about high school and the way

26:06

people Show up . I want to

26:08

talk about the relationship between you and

26:11

the rest of the cast . I want to talk

26:13

about is there a real friendship ? Is

26:15

it just a situation ship or you frenemies

26:18

? How is your relationship with

26:20

the rest of the cast members ?

26:22

So the only people I really had

26:24

a relationship with is is

26:27

quick and that's because

26:29

I was throwing events . I've been

26:31

doing events for over 20 years

26:33

DC

26:35

area across the US so I

26:38

mean I was booking quick in my 30s

26:40

for do it for DJ my burpees . If

26:43

I did stuff in Vegas I

26:46

will fly him out the DJ that stuff .

26:48

So he was like the radio .

26:49

DJ in the DC area , so a

26:52

lot of my big stuff . I put him on just

26:55

a weekly stuff . I have my other little

26:57

DJs . But His wife

26:59

I met at my club

27:02

I'm a club probably Shit

27:05

probably 13 , 14

27:07

years ago she's . I didn't even know she was

27:09

that young until TV

27:11

. Okay , so

27:15

you took my 13 years ago , she was in her

27:17

20s . I didn't even know that she

27:20

was in the club and the ladies

27:22

met . I think it took a picture . I

27:24

met her . I didn't know her like that . And then

27:27

you fast forward us to 2022

27:31

with a TV show and put us in the room together to

27:33

try to get a room Winter

27:36

. Never seen her in my life . Friday TV

27:39

Monique oh

27:42

, monique and Chris I I

27:45

think we seen them out and about , but

27:47

never really , never really

27:49

trying . Season one , surel

27:52

and Black . Season

27:55

two . We did know them for

27:57

a few years .

27:58

Well , they be back , sure , ellen , and her husband

28:00

black .

28:01

They're on the second half . Okay

28:04

, they don't know anything after that . I don't

28:06

know right right . Who

28:08

else is on the cash ?

28:10

Joy and , and so .

28:14

In talking to the cliff and he

28:16

was attending my events back on the

28:18

day , but we probably met , you know . You know

28:20

I speak to everybody . Hey , what's up bro ? And he

28:22

said we met , but you know . I didn't have

28:24

a relationship with him until

28:26

ready to love and

28:29

then when we were picked up , and

28:31

then we did each other . He's like man . Congratulations

28:34

, and I was telling him congratulations

28:36

so that was that's kind

28:39

of what kicked us off and . I've never met joy

28:41

until You're a

28:43

film season two .

28:44

So is there any couple on the show that

28:47

you find a very difficult developing

28:49

an organic relationship with ?

28:53

Well , it's only three . So it's us

28:55

silvers and the patties . I would say

28:58

, because of the state we are in today

29:00

, the silvers are

29:02

Harder . It's

29:04

gonna be hard because it's a lot that happens

29:07

since we rap . Lot of

29:09

lot of stuff has been said on

29:11

Twitter , on interviews

29:14

, you name it , and you

29:17

know a lot of this stuff is like like

29:19

I've really done Because I didn't

29:21

. I didn't hang with these people , like I don't

29:24

care , but I tried to leave it

29:26

at the reunion , leave the door open , to say

29:28

, hey , I Can , I can

29:30

do business with y'all , because this business at

29:32

this point , but all that other that's , that's

29:34

over .

29:35

I can't wow , so

29:37

will we see any of that on this new season

29:39

? Like the , the , the disconnect

29:41

between you and DJ

29:44

quick Silva and his wife Ashley .

29:46

I think you're gonna see the start

29:48

of it and I'm gonna hit started a little bit

29:50

in the furrier did it , uh-huh , and

29:52

I mean a lot of that a Lot

29:54

of the back and forth with me and quick . You

29:58

know , like I said , from onyx meeting I

30:00

never was . My intent

30:03

was never to throw him under bus

30:05

or his family or none of that on

30:07

professionals and scenes . But

30:09

as you see , when you see professionals

30:12

, you like what down , yeah

30:14

, and I kept finding myself saying , damn

30:16

, like you . And then I'm like listening

30:19

, I'm like , yeah , I know , that wasn't even really like

30:21

that . Now you For TV

30:23

, then you blown it up like I got a whole drinking

30:25

problem and I'm just like what are we doing

30:27

? Like so so

30:29

when they come back on , after

30:32

what I saw , I'm a I'm a whole

30:34

different person . My professionals are nowhere

30:36

near like they were the first . Really

30:38

, and then

30:40

and then , um , you know

30:42

from when we wrap filming

30:45

? I feel like that's when the real

30:47

riff came , hmm as

30:49

a Twitter , twitter stuff , right

30:51

.

30:52

Oh wow , do you think that you'll ever

30:54

get to a place where the relationships can

30:57

be mended , or it's too far gone

30:59

?

30:59

I just think , uh , and

31:02

I don't know what they're gonna show at the reunion

31:04

. I think the reunion For

31:07

me , pride nailed it door shut

31:09

with me and pride ran into you

31:11

because the reunion is that bad , it's oh . Wow

31:13

. It's like this in this world you

31:15

can have shade , we are , we all

31:18

understood the shade . We're gonna have got

31:20

a head shade , okay right squeaky

31:22

clean , happy , go lucky for 1213

31:25

episode ain't gonna work right , but but

31:27

when you have back and forth with your cast

31:30

, it should never go to the

31:32

point where now I'm trying to destroy you and

31:34

your integrity and your fat like and

31:37

that's what started happening , like at

31:39

the reunion , like it was any dirt

31:41

I had or thought I had . I'm saying

31:43

at the reunion , you know

31:46

, you know what they show , that's what

31:48

happened . And I'm sitting here listening

31:50

to this stuff . I'm like , oh , she really

31:52

, really don't fuck with us . Wow

31:55

, there's , none of this would have ever came

31:57

out my mouth , you know .

31:59

I'm sorry , right . So do you think a

32:01

lot of the Disconnect

32:03

or the disrespect was purposely

32:05

done because the cameras were rolling ?

32:09

So that's what I thought , but if

32:11

you watch her on Twitter and on Instagram , she

32:14

the realest thing on TV

32:16

and everything she said , that's her . So

32:19

she , she's

32:21

saying that's who she is and I believe her

32:23

, like literally , it's a scene , is a real pivotal

32:25

scene You're gonna see

32:27

probably third , maybe third or fourth episode , and

32:31

she , she , she goes off on a castmate . I'm sitting here

32:33

like , oh , this

32:36

guy be fatigued , this guy really , because they wasn't

32:38

that serious but it escalated so bad . That that's

32:40

that's the pivotal

32:43

point of the whole second half , where all the

32:45

relationship did like that , yeah , and I

32:47

was just like I'm like , even when I talk to

32:49

the husband , I was like I

32:53

said , bro , that was a TV . I thought that was a TV , mom

32:56

, mm-hmm , because other

32:58

than that it was no way . That would have like no way . She's getting

33:00

in my face like that

33:02

, wow , but I'm

33:04

not surprised .

33:05

I'm not surprised at all because I think it was

33:07

the end of the first season or the second season

33:09

and we started to notice Ashley

33:12

kind of changing , you know , getting

33:14

a little bit more battery in her back , and

33:19

we it just seemed as if her personality

33:22

was changing just because of time . She seemed as if

33:24

her Pat personality was changing

33:26

just because of television . Yes

33:28

, so I'm not surprised to see

33:30

if her personality is now on level

33:33

20 .

33:36

This is on 50 when it come back . And if

33:38

you just look at Twitter and Instagram

33:40

, you could see she like

33:42

doubling down on the jet . I'm

33:44

the bad guy , I'm with it , wow . And

33:47

that's where I said like I

33:49

go back to Monique statement . Like we

33:51

had a whole dinner like

33:54

don't let this show Make us where

33:56

we are today . And oh , yeah

33:58

, yeah , yeah , we all are in the green . And now

34:00

we're literally Like

34:02

don't fuck with each other at all . Oh , wow it

34:04

gets worse every day because the

34:08

social media shit Like

34:10

it ain't even you know how the cats

34:12

live tweet when the show on and

34:15

they go back like that's what we started

34:18

with that . Now , we was doing that

34:20

, but it was all in boosting

34:22

the show or whatever . But then she

34:26

, you know her little crew , you know they sitting

34:28

there clapping back at me

34:30

or right , and I'm

34:32

like tell your people chill , like like

34:34

this will be posted . Do we posted ? Talk shit

34:36

to each other ? Right , but they can't

34:38

keep talking shit to them Because I'm gonna be fine with

34:40

them and I think that's what set

34:43

me her apart , because I responded to somebody

34:45

who just kept at me , just kept

34:47

at me and they in it and they just

34:49

, they just enabled their shit , like

34:52

everything they do is it

34:54

was nothing wrong with . I'm like Did

34:56

the whole thing with him calling my son bad in that

34:58

scene , yeah , he should , like

35:00

the whole internet said Brad , I'm talking about these people

35:02

, kids , you don't even right , yeah . And

35:05

then when I said something on Twitter about

35:07

it , the little girl got at me like

35:09

quick this and quick . I'm like show it , he's

35:11

wrong , we're

35:14

not gonna keep going back . Nobody's

35:16

gonna say that was right , but y'all Is

35:19

gonna say well , he meant to do swear

35:22

or like , and

35:24

that that's gonna come back up when they come back

35:26

on . You can see how that played out . Wow

35:29

, again no accountability .

35:31

No , yeah . So I know

35:33

this , like this is a spinoff from Like

35:36

love and marriage , huntsville , and I know

35:38

on that show the

35:41

ensemble cast started to have some

35:43

sort of turmoil and Carlos King had

35:45

to step in . Has

35:47

there been a time that Carlos King

35:49

had to step in with your cast and say

35:51

, ok , what the eff is happening

35:53

here ? We need to get back on track . So

35:55

how is he supporting all of this ?

35:58

I think that's coming . I think that's soon

36:00

, really , I

36:03

think . Because I mean , even when I got

36:05

into it with Winter Season 1

36:07

, that got ugly

36:09

behind the scenes too , because her

36:12

team snowflake fans

36:14

, started talking to me on

36:17

social media and they were googling my house

36:19

and posting pictures of my house . Somehow

36:22

. It don't make me pull up Like really

36:24

. Yeah , I was like man . Let me explain something to

36:26

you , bro . I was a police in DC

36:28

25 years . If you

36:30

come near this house faking Right

36:33

, I promise you won't leave . You won't leave

36:35

, like I'm OK . And

36:38

so what I did ? I just documented it with

36:40

the local police just

36:42

to let them know this was . I was threatening

36:44

. They did share my house and

36:47

I hit Carlos . I said hey

36:49

, her fan club is talking shit to me

36:51

and threatening me . I'm

36:54

telling you , I ain't that guy . He's

36:56

gonna go left real quick . And he was like you

36:59

know , he kind of was like let me try to

37:02

calm it down , whatever . So that kind of blew

37:04

over as time went

37:06

on , but

37:10

he probably won't have to do it because I know me , you

37:13

know I'm a Tars and

37:15

one thing I don't play with is don't lie on

37:17

me , right , I could get myself in

37:19

trouble . Trust me , don't

37:21

make up shit on me for TV . And

37:24

then it's so wrong . Then

37:27

you're like , oh well , well , somebody told me that

37:29

that's why I was so mad . I went to . I

37:31

was like , went to Whoever sent you

37:33

. That is a fake page . And I tell

37:35

him Senator , rainer , you don't

37:37

even know us , mind your business . Like you try

37:39

to stop shit to stay on the show . And

37:42

it was so obvious , like it worked . She's still

37:44

here . But it was like we

37:46

don't , we would never seen you in our life . So

37:49

anybody sending you shit clearly

37:51

is not a fan of me . And , Rainer

37:53

, right , hit , hit and

37:55

you just ran with it for TV . Oh , look what I

37:58

got , look what I got . I'm going shorty .

38:02

Yeah , this whole social media space has turned

38:04

everyone into a thug . I don't

38:06

like it at all At all

38:08

, Because I'm like once I present you with an opportunity

38:11

, I really see how much of a thug you are not .

38:16

I think I moved on with Winster because

38:19

we were . We kept ending

38:21

up in the same room and I knew

38:23

we were going to do another season back then

38:25

. So I went over to and I said , look

38:27

, I'm going

38:30

to make peace with you right

38:32

now Because I know we got to exist

38:34

. You ain't going nowhere in even my . I

38:36

said , but I'm going to just tell you this Leave

38:39

my marriage alone , like that was your

38:41

angle to get on the show . Cool , you

38:43

made it , congratulations . But , moving

38:45

forward , leave my house alone for real , got

38:48

it . We kind of like came to agreement like

38:50

all right , cool , you

38:52

know you can get your own storyline , you

38:54

on the show . Now you

38:56

got to do your thing there . I

38:59

got five storylines and

39:01

you want to add mama T , that's another one . We

39:04

got finished here to talk about it . My only

39:06

, you stop shit .

39:09

I hear that , I hear that . But you know , I mentioned

39:11

Love and Marriage Huntsville a few times and

39:14

that show is really , really just taken

39:16

off . What do you think Love

39:18

and Marriage DC needs to do in

39:20

order to surpass the ratings of Love and Marriage

39:23

Huntsville ?

39:25

Well , I think Huntsville really

39:28

, really blasted off with the Martel

39:30

scan .

39:31

Yeah .

39:32

In this world we live in . That's what they want . They

39:34

want to do . Yes , infidelity

39:37

, and you name it , you

39:41

know Love and Marriage . Dc

39:43

me personally , and I can speak for

39:45

me and Reina I was a

39:48

highly decorated

39:50

law enforcement waved

39:53

in full TV . So TV

39:55

was never in my mind to be on reality

39:57

TV one day . So my

40:00

integrity for that and

40:02

who I am I was often cameras

40:04

I would never set that out

40:07

for TV . So it's

40:09

just so much I'm going to do and I'm not

40:11

going to keep arguing with people I don't even fool

40:14

with in real life . So at some point

40:17

, carlos , going to have a meeting , like you said

40:19

, and figure out how to move forward . Because

40:21

my family yeah

40:23

, we can get y'all out of that . We can get out of real family

40:25

ups and downs and all

40:28

that . We can do that . But to keep

40:30

arguing with other couples

40:32

for ratings and all , I'm not

40:34

doing it Right , I'm

40:36

not , because I don't have the temper to keep sugarcoating

40:39

shit . Eventually I'm going to go all the way left

40:41

. Children go all

40:43

the way left . I

40:45

mean all the way left .

40:47

I get it , I totally get it . But I

40:50

love the fact that you haven't gone tiki-tiki

40:52

boom yet , because a fan

40:54

like me , I don't want to see

40:56

all of the arguing every single

40:59

week . And I've got Carlos's name

41:01

because I'm thinking maybe he isn't

41:03

giving Love and Marriage DC

41:05

the same amount of attention that

41:08

he's been giving to Love and

41:10

Marriage Huntsville . Would you agree or

41:12

disagree ?

41:12

Oh , yeah , we definitely have

41:15

our fellas on the

41:18

marketing behind us , the promotion

41:20

, like all this week we're doing

41:22

press . This is my relationships

41:25

with all the local news and radio . Nobody

41:27

from owners reached out and said , hey

41:30

, press week , I need you all to do all

41:32

these interviews , nobody knows . But

41:34

when Huntsville girl come back on , they got commercial

41:37

, they got All

41:40

this . But then you talk

41:42

about ratings , but y'all don't even put

41:44

the same effort into it .

41:46

I definitely noticed that . I noticed

41:48

that . Yeah , in order to prepare

41:50

for this conversation , I

41:53

looked across different social

41:55

media platforms just to see if you all

41:57

were doing interviews and I said there's

42:00

not a lot of promotion and marketing

42:02

and the interviews going behind

42:05

this ? And I see it . I'm a

42:07

fan of Carlos King and the work

42:09

that he's curated and produced , but

42:11

I can definitely tell that he has his favorites

42:14

.

42:15

Yeah , I think I

42:17

mean I read Twitter Even

42:20

that long delay . He called him

42:22

and only

42:24

in his defense I will say it

42:27

was above him , it was an on thing

42:29

. I hit him directly

42:31

. What is that ? Because I got stuff

42:34

I could be doing in retirement , but

42:37

I don't want to start it . And then

42:39

here come the cameras again . And then I got to be

42:41

like , well , I can't be there , I can't do this

42:43

, I can't do that . So I was

42:45

giving them

42:47

a little more time and then I was great , just

42:49

shut it off . I was going to be done and I was going

42:51

to get back into my other

42:53

stuff I got going , got

42:55

it .

42:56

So if you look at all of the other couples on

42:58

the show , if one couple

43:00

had to go , which couple would it be

43:02

? Oh , silver , easy oh

43:04

.

43:05

I knew you were going to say that . I

43:08

mean because I know

43:10

we all don't mess

43:12

with each other right now . But me

43:14

, just watching what I see and

43:17

what I know in real life is just like bro

43:20

, come on y'all . Like y'all just

43:22

tiptoeing with she does

43:24

to me . She does

43:26

a lot . She does a lot Like

43:29

too much actually , like

43:31

them conversations with her mother , like

43:34

I feel like some of this is not for TV . Some

43:36

of this shit is true and she do it again

43:38

when they come back on it's a whole nother scene

43:40

with them two and it's just like

43:43

some of this stuff I

43:45

got to be a fine line of like that

43:47

ain't going to be TV . Fuck that , I

43:49

don't get it and

43:51

she don't do that . But he definitely

43:53

do . He definitely just want to cheer

43:56

for her and get out the way . And

43:59

they mess with me . Try most

44:01

he

44:03

mocked supervisors or something and then get out the way

44:05

. So that's

44:07

why I say yeah , definitely .

44:09

I get it , I get it . You know , on my

44:11

show I like to talk about pivotal

44:13

moments and milestones , and there are so many pivotal

44:15

moments and milestones that we all have in common

44:18

, so I want to talk about a few of your

44:20

firsts . When

44:23

was the first time that

44:25

you lost

44:27

your virginity ? How

44:29

old ?

44:30

When I first lost mine .

44:31

Yes .

44:32

Shit

44:34

If

44:37

I had to go back that far .

44:38

I would have Come on , man

44:40

you know , when you lost your virginity .

44:43

I'm going to say junior high

44:45

school .

44:47

Damn Jamie , Really

44:49

Junior high school .

44:51

I mean you tell me 85 , 86

44:53

.

44:55

It's a different world . I know I

44:57

was about to graduate high school . I

44:59

waited a little bit . Ok , jamie , I waited

45:01

.

45:03

Not from high school . These girls down here

45:06

was ready to go .

45:09

OK , what was your first job ?

45:12

Oh wow , my first job back at

45:14

14 was a piece

45:17

of hut .

45:21

Has there ever been a first time that you were fired

45:23

?

45:25

Piece of hut . Why

45:27

were you fired ? Because we

45:29

just fell in pieces . Typical

45:31

teenagers , you know

45:34

how it is . I'm

45:36

trying stills of pieces got caught . I'm

45:40

having a thought a few times . I mean , we was

45:42

young , we was just throwing dumps .

45:45

OK , so when you started making

45:47

money I don't mean like millions

45:50

or things like that but what was your very first

45:52

big purchase ?

45:56

Man a house . I bought

45:58

my first house in 1998

46:00

. And the

46:02

thing was because

46:04

I was around retired

46:06

law enforcement when I worked at

46:08

Drug Enforcement Administration that's not bad for her

46:10

. You know , I

46:12

was talking to these guys so much and

46:17

the old vet said man , cause

46:19

I was talking about apartment , I'm wanting an apartment . I said

46:21

I'm going to a town house or apartment . I'm

46:23

like 27 years old . He like no

46:26

bad house . I

46:28

said , man , I don't want to know a house . He was like nah , man

46:30

, trust me . He said you will get

46:32

equity off of it when you sell it . You gonna make more

46:34

money . And I literally

46:36

bought into it . And then , cause

46:38

we had a little town house for a little

46:41

while and after that

46:43

first we bought a house in 1998

46:45

. It was I was so young and she

46:47

was so young . The neighbors said

46:50

where are your parents ? When we went to move

46:52

in , oh , wow , and we were like wow

46:54

, and he was like I want to meet him . I was

46:56

like , wow , he's like I

46:58

just want to meet the neighbor . I said

47:01

it's us Right , cause I think I was

47:03

. I was 20 , 25

47:06

. Nice .

47:08

She was 24 . Nice

47:10

, oh , that's dope , that's dope . What

47:12

was your first heartbreak ?

47:16

I mean I would say the real pride

47:18

, right Cause we broke up . We

47:20

broke up probably like

47:23

95 , 94

47:25

, 95 . And

47:27

she went back to her daughter's father and

47:30

that was a rough time

47:32

and then ultimately she came back

47:34

and then we got married in 96

47:37

.

47:37

Nice . See , love always finds

47:39

its way back . I want to kind of

47:41

tap into the entrepreneurial

47:44

spirit of you before we end this conversation

47:46

. So you did mention that you are

47:49

a retired detective , but you

47:51

also have an entertainment company

47:53

, J&J Entertainment Company . You're

47:55

hosting a love and marriage

47:57

DC , I think launch party

47:59

this coming Saturday . Is that correct

48:01

?

48:02

Well , it's the watch party for the new episode

48:04

.

48:05

Oh , okay , but talk about this entertainment

48:08

company , cause you started this many

48:10

, many years ago and to see it still flourishing

48:12

now , that's amazing . Talk about

48:14

your entertainment company .

48:16

Yeah , so a lot of people don't know , I started

48:18

I was always the

48:20

party guy , always for as

48:22

long as I can remember . So when I bought a

48:24

house , my house was the Super

48:27

Bowl , tyson fights , Mayweather

48:30

fights , red Skin , cowboys

48:32

games , like all the big stuff . It was Jamie

48:34

house and I will always have

48:36

. You know , I could always get a

48:38

crowd If it was intimate , for

48:41

the inside it'd be like 40

48:43

people or something , but if I did it in the backyard

48:46

it could be a hundred . And

48:49

so back in those days

48:51

I was doing events with like

48:53

a few police officers and we

48:55

was doing pool parties , cabrages

48:57

, stuff like that in the early 2000s , and

49:00

then I just noticed

49:02

that it was like falling off and it

49:04

wasn't really serious , no more . So I

49:07

kind of went , went my separate ways , and

49:09

how ? My partner JD

49:11

, how we linked up , he was throwing

49:14

house parties at his house . But we grew up together

49:16

playing at the NC Chaplain Sports as

49:18

kids . So I went to a

49:20

couple of his house parties . I was like , hey , cool

49:23

little crowd . You know , for his to be at

49:25

a house it'd be like 50 , 60 people over

49:27

. Good luck . So I went

49:29

. So oh eight

49:31

, oh eight . I saw a venue

49:33

in DC . That was wide open and

49:36

I said if I'm gonna do it , I'm gonna call him because

49:38

I felt like he had a nice crowd . And

49:41

sure enough , 09 , we started off these

49:43

happy hours on Friday nights and

49:47

cause he's a PhD in computer

49:49

science , I was in law enforcement

49:51

, we had a real professional

49:53

network IT world and

49:55

then I had lawyers and law enforcement

49:58

and government workers , stuff

50:00

like that . So we just funded as a

50:03

little happy hour for our high schools , like

50:05

a reunion , and the first one we

50:07

did is like 300 . Some people came so

50:11

the owner was like just do it again next week . So

50:13

we did it again next week and another 300 came

50:16

. Then just do it again . So we ran

50:18

off like seven of those real

50:20

early . Then of course saw

50:22

Stella oh , the numbers were

50:25

down tonight Just lying

50:27

in it and I said we got moved Cause

50:29

we got a thing that I could take it to another venue

50:31

Right Fast forward to

50:33

probably like spring

50:36

of 09 , we went to another venue in DC

50:38

where we got a DJ now

50:40

and it was two levels , so

50:42

it was food and that was just

50:45

the birth of J and J . It was like J

50:48

and J Ocean Drive Fridays

50:50

and it was a thing . It

50:52

was like every week packed , try

50:54

and get in it , nice , nice

50:57

, and then from there we started

50:59

doing concerts . We

51:01

started with the day party movement down

51:04

here Started

51:07

and I cause I'm born in May , I

51:09

would always do my birthday in Vegas when May went

51:11

before . So we started taking my

51:13

birthday to Vegas . For like seven

51:16

, eight years we would take eight

51:18

900 people to Vegas .

51:19

It was crazy Nice , but

51:21

I hear you're also planning a trip

51:23

. You're hosting and planning a trip to Ghana

51:25

and you're inviting people to travel with

51:28

you . I think that that's amazing

51:30

. Talk about that , and where can my

51:32

audience go to purchase tickets and travel

51:34

with you to Ghana ?

51:35

Yeah . So then

51:38

on this platform , we were contacted

51:40

by a tourism company

51:42

to do a partnership and get some people

51:44

from overhead over to the motherland . So

51:48

my management , along with their

51:50

team , we had a Zoom

51:52

and went over all the logistics of it and

51:55

it seemed like a good fit . So

51:57

we partnered up with them and it'll

52:00

be the end of August of this year . It's

52:03

a nine day trip

52:05

. They have a whole itinerary starting

52:08

from when you land till we get back on

52:10

the plane , and I do

52:12

have a link . I can see the link and

52:14

with that link it does have

52:16

the breakdown of the flight

52:18

, the hotel options

52:21

, the contact information for

52:23

the tourism group and they can basically

52:25

walk them through the whole process of deposits

52:28

or if you just want to pay your trip .

52:30

Yeah , it seemed pretty

52:32

affordable . I looked at something

52:34

and I think the base price was $2,000

52:37

or something and you said the trip is for nine days

52:39

. Yeah , yeah , and I went

52:41

to like a Caribbean island for about four

52:43

days , and it's more than that . And

52:45

I said , okay , this trip to Ghana is a great

52:48

, great price . So , yes , please share that link

52:50

with me , because I definitely want to share it with

52:52

my audience . I think

52:54

that that's amazing . Now the final question

52:57

. With Love and Marys DC

52:59

about to launch its new season

53:01

, why should everyone be tuned

53:04

in watching ?

53:05

Oh man , Cause your favorites

53:07

, the Tyler's , are coming back to your

53:09

screen . Of course , you

53:12

got more of Raina

53:14

and I just navigating

53:17

this life of being the OGs

53:19

on the show . So Lil

53:22

Jamie has some updates on his what

53:25

he's up to . It

53:27

was some scenes filmed with Jason and his

53:29

updates , but I didn't see him

53:31

in what we already saw , so I

53:34

was kind of hoping that we could see that , cause

53:36

he was actually in school during

53:39

most of that whole film Brittany's

53:43

back and some scenes Mama

53:45

T's back and

53:47

I just think I think for me it

53:50

showed a lot of like the people that probably misunderstood

53:53

me season one . I

53:56

felt like it opens up a little more to

53:58

me . I do some more counseling and

54:00

I also have a retirement party with

54:03

a VIP guest that's gonna blow everybody's

54:05

mind , so I'm excited

54:07

about my family

54:10

and what we share .

54:12

Nice Marys . Well , jamie

54:14

, thank you so much for this conversation

54:17

. I just need you to do me a favor Please tell

54:19

your beautiful wife that I said hello

54:21

and I am definitely a fan of her

54:24

and you on the show . And keep

54:26

on with the black love People

54:28

like me . We applaud you , we pray

54:30

for you and I wish you and your

54:32

wife and your entire family continued success

54:35

.

54:35

And you are so appreciated and we appreciate

54:38

you . I appreciate you having me on Gotta

54:40

. Get her on next .

54:41

Yes , yes , yes , I would love

54:43

to . So we'll link up to coordinate

54:46

that .

54:46

Yes , yes , absolutely . And if anybody's in

54:49

the DMV area , saturday night

54:51

we're doing a watch party at

54:53

Silver Spring Merlin , at Citizens

54:55

and Cultures . It's gonna start

54:57

at six , but we're gonna watch the

54:59

show at eight and then have a little after

55:01

party from nine to 10 . And

55:03

then we're taking the party to the air lounge

55:06

for a second after party where we will meet

55:08

and read the fans take pictures .

55:10

Yeah , I love it . I was talking to my daughter

55:12

when I saw about the event and I'm trying

55:14

to link up with one of my friends who lives in the DMV

55:17

area to come to

55:19

the party , so I'll definitely let you know if I'll

55:21

be in the building .

55:22

Okay , yeah , if you do it . Definitely . If

55:24

you wanna chop

55:27

it up a little bit , you want to get some content

55:29

, that's fine .

55:30

Okay , okay , well , I'll be in touch . Thank you so

55:32

much , Jamie . You take care . Thank you and

55:34

I'll send you that link as well . Please do Bye-bye

55:37

, all right . There

55:39

you have it , jamie Tyler

55:41

of Love and Marriage

55:43

DC Love

55:46

the conversation . Let me tell you why . Because

55:48

reality TV is often led , like I

55:50

said , by the female cast

55:52

. You know , just chatting it up , sometimes

55:55

the petty labels of it all . But

55:58

the men who are joining the cast , they're

56:00

like you know , we're on this show with

56:02

our wives , we're not going , we're nowhere

56:05

near being a silent partner . We're

56:07

in this together and I'm finding

56:10

that the male voice on reality

56:12

television is just increasing

56:14

and increasing . When we talk

56:17

about reality shows , remember Love

56:19

, who was it called Real Housewives

56:21

of Atlanta ? And

56:24

one of the husbands kept speaking

56:26

up . I think it was Peter . Peter Thomas kept speaking

56:29

up and

56:31

they refer to him as

56:33

a of a JJ , a

56:36

few male reality

56:38

personalities . Once they start

56:40

speaking up , the women are looking at them like shut up

56:42

, be quiet . But the men are saying

56:45

no , we have an opinion . We're

56:47

on here with our wives . You're not going to slander

56:49

our wives , you're not going to slander our relationships

56:51

. I have something to say . So I

56:53

love to say and Jamie was right , he

56:56

did go through some challenges

56:58

and obstacles from the audience because

57:00

of his presence on Love and Marriage DC . When

57:03

he got into it with his wife , the

57:06

audience didn't like that . When

57:08

he got into it with his

57:10

own son , you didn't like that either . You

57:13

know , my daughter always asks me Mom , do you

57:15

think that you could do reality television ? And

57:18

I would say one second

57:20

I'm saying yes and then five seconds later I'm

57:22

saying no , because you

57:25

all don't allow people to be their

57:27

organic selves . It's

57:29

called reality television To

57:31

the point where it is becoming

57:34

such a visceral reaction for such the audiences

57:36

that a lot of this reality television oftentimes

57:39

it becomes scripted just so that

57:41

it becomes a little bit more digestible for

57:43

you all . So and

57:45

then we talked about Carlos King . If

57:49

you are a fan

57:51

of the reality TV

57:54

shows on the Oprah Winfrey network

57:56

, you know that Carlos King of

57:59

Kingdom Brain Entertainment , he is the curator

58:01

of a lot of these shows and

58:04

you can definitely tell that there are some favorites . Love

58:06

you , carlos , but it's the truth , you can

58:08

tell . Matter of fact , love

58:10

and Marriage Huntsville he just launched

58:13

a tour with Melody

58:15

Cherie . How do

58:17

you now employ

58:20

someone but now

58:22

your partners ? It just

58:24

doesn't make any sense to me . And

58:26

then , also just to prepare for this conversation

58:29

. I was looking to see how was the

58:31

cast of Love and Marriage DC

58:33

promoting and marketing

58:35

? Were they going on interviews ? And I saw nothing , nothing

58:38

at all . Carlos , come

58:40

on , spread the love . Spread the love

58:42

to the people that you employ

58:45

, the people that bring

58:47

your vision to life . Show

58:51

them some love . So

58:53

I don't know , but once

58:56

again , this has been another amazing

58:58

conversation from Sanya on

59:00

air . The term that

59:02

I gave you at the onset of this show , I want

59:04

you to remember it Black owned

59:06

versus Black targeted

59:09

Black targeted

59:11

to me it's like it

59:13

is allowed to develop organically . It isn't

59:15

really given any type of structure or boundaries

59:18

. The messaging may be a little bit

59:20

blurred , like was

59:22

this a good message ? So

59:25

they just called me ? It's just

59:27

too much back and forth and we

59:29

need shows . We need shows

59:31

that are entertaining

59:34

or , like I say , anger

59:36

tainment . We need those . But I also want to see the balance

59:38

too . So I'm going to implore

59:41

you , jamie Tyler , and your wife

59:43

Irana don't change . Don't

59:45

change . We want to see the ups and downs

59:47

of the marriages , because , for

59:49

one , people go into relationships , especially this new

59:52

generation . You get into one argument

59:54

and it's over , and they date the best friend

59:56

and then writing a song

59:58

about it on social media . I don't

1:00:00

find that people are willing to go through

1:00:02

the ups and downs of relationships to really

1:00:04

find out what works . I think

1:00:06

love is really about child . Who are

1:00:08

you willing to suffer the most for ? I

1:00:11

don't know . Not saying that you should be in something

1:00:13

trauma filled , but stick with

1:00:16

it . Don't give up so easily . And

1:00:18

another thing that I want you to stick with is Sanya

1:00:20

on air . Make sure that you are tuned in every single

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week for all new celebrity

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1:00:27

moments and milestones . So

1:00:30

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