0:00

guys, we are in an information

0:03

war.

0:06

We

0:10

are involved information warfare

0:13

and China wants to build portfolios,

0:16

the as

0:18

much information as possible

0:21

on Americans and and

0:23

harness power of our

0:26

computer systems for their own nefarious

0:28

purposes. And that's a fact. And

0:31

if you've been watching at all what's

0:33

been happening on Capitol Hill

0:35

and the investigations into

0:37

TikTok, then you'll know this.

0:40

It's

0:40

the reason why actually this is kind of interesting.

0:43

When I was in Washington, DC, and I went

0:45

to CPAC, daughter

0:48

was with me. So brought my daughter with me. of

0:50

course, you know, she doesn't care who's in that

0:52

room. Like she's not even like, like

0:55

an astonishment or a star struck by

0:57

anybody back there. So she's on her phone, of course, and

1:00

she's talking to

1:02

her dad she's to a friend.

1:05

And then all of a sudden, I hear

1:07

one of my friends come up behind Anneliese

1:09

and say, Anneliese, are you on TikTok?

1:13

And was like, what? I like

1:15

raised my head like, wait a

1:17

minute, we're not to have TikTok

1:19

in our family on any of our phones.

1:22

And what happens is, is your kids, right,

1:24

of course, are chatting

1:27

with their and their friends send them a link

1:29

to something funny that's on TikTok because

1:32

every kid in America happens to TikTok

1:34

and then they're clicking on it and TikTok

1:37

allows you to view that. download

1:40

it, you don't actually have to like

1:43

TikTok person. You don't have to

1:45

sign for it. You can actually see it

1:47

as long as it's downloaded. Why? Because

1:50

they want to get access to your phone. Well,

1:51

this

1:53

one of the major honeypots

1:55

of America, right? I'm going

1:57

to tell you a little bit about honey potting and

1:59

the intelligence.

1:59

community. A honey trap or a honey pot

2:02

is basically the art of seduction.

2:05

It's putting a spy in a

2:07

perfect position, in a perfect

2:09

place to collect

2:12

information

2:13

from somebody who is unsuspecting, somebody

2:16

who doesn't

2:17

realize that the person that they're talking to is a spy.

2:20

So TikTok is pretty much like that. It's

2:22

the biggest honey trap. It's the American

2:24

honeypot, right? But I've

2:27

actually had experiences with

2:29

the actual intelligence

2:32

honeypot, not me personally, I don't

2:34

think I've been honeypotted unless that's my husband

2:37

and he's lying to me. But I did. That's the only

2:39

one that could have been the honeypot

2:41

honey trap for me or the honeypot. But I've

2:43

actually in my coverage of intelligence,

2:46

and the intelligence community and being in the

2:48

war zones, have seen this

2:51

at play.

2:52

This honey trap, this honey pot. And I actually

2:54

wrote a story about it. One that

2:56

dealt with Patrick Byrne

2:58

and Maria Butina from

3:00

Russia,

3:01

the overstock former overstock CEO,

3:04

who's recently on my podcast.

3:07

I broke a few stories on him and

3:09

the relationship that he had with Maria Butina

3:12

and all of the

3:13

curious spying that possibly

3:16

went on there. And I've

3:18

also kind of experienced that

3:20

myself and I will tell you all about

3:23

that in a few minutes, but I want to show you this.

3:25

This was 2011.

3:26

I love books. And

3:28

so I never get rid of my books. Not really,

3:30

not if I love them. And this is Henry

3:32

Kissinger's book on, guess what? On

3:35

China. It's on China. And

3:38

when I get back,

3:39

I'm going to tell you my experience

3:42

with a Chinese journalist who

3:45

I believe at this dinner, I saved

3:47

the menu right here, in 2011 was trying to get access

3:49

to

3:50

me, certainly

3:54

not honeypot me because I don't

3:57

think She was going in that

3:59

direction.

7:59

up to Geneva Convention that they didn't cross

8:02

any standards, that they upheld

8:04

human rights conditions, right?

8:07

So that's one way of gathering information.

8:09

You capture your enemy or the person

8:12

you suspect

8:13

is going to do something and

8:15

then you interrogate them, you question them, you find different

8:18

techniques. Is the guy attracted

8:21

to young women?

8:22

Does he like a man?

8:23

You know, is she more attracted to

8:26

a grandfatherly type? I mean, there's all

8:28

kinds of methodology that

8:31

goes into how am I going

8:33

to access information from

8:35

this person?

8:37

And as a journalist covering the intelligence

8:39

community, that was always fascinating

8:42

to me. Now, on the other hand,

8:44

you get a, you know, I'm an

8:46

alzawahiri, right? Like the second in command

8:49

of al-Qaeda, or you get somebody who you

8:52

think is going to have actionable intelligence,

8:55

like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and maybe you think

8:57

like, oh my gosh, there's going to be an attack the

8:59

next day on the United States of America. How

9:01

am I going to get information

9:04

from this guy quickly and

9:07

swiftly? What is going to motivate him?

9:09

And that's where you go into all the

9:12

kind of like TV shows like 24 or

9:14

Homeland or, you know, the

9:17

Jason Bourne where you're thinking

9:19

of like, I mean, those are all over exaggerated,

9:22

of course, but where you're thinking of like,

9:24

okay, does this guy maybe, is he

9:26

going to be motivated by pain? Right?

9:29

I'm guessing, you know, or will he

9:31

be motivated by threats

9:33

to his family or something? How am I going

9:35

to get the information to stop and attack?

9:38

Well,

9:38

there's also other ways of gathering

9:41

information and it's long-term information

9:43

gathering. And that is, you

9:46

know, really is the art of seduction,

9:48

the honey pot

9:49

and intelligence agencies and we're

9:51

gonna talk to mario d'orte a little bit about this

9:54

little bit cuz i think i'm gonna have to bring back

9:56

on about there so many things i wanna touch

9:58

on with him but.

11:59

Well, when I was, and

12:01

I'm gonna go into the book right now, when I was in DC

12:05

and the very beginnings of my

12:07

career, so to speak, I was traveling

12:09

to the war zone already like three years. Actually,

12:12

I'd been working quite a long time. By the time

12:14

this luncheon came about,

12:16

it was a luncheon with Henry Kissinger in 2011.

12:20

And it was about his book

12:22

on China.

12:23

And it was with

12:26

the Greater Washington Board of Trade. And

12:28

it was like their kind of annual luncheon

12:30

meeting. And I had been invited and I thought,

12:32

wow, how fascinating. I'm so excited. I

12:34

want to go see Kissinger speak.

12:36

And by the way, this is a phenomenal book.

12:39

But I went to go see

12:41

him speak and I

12:43

was sitting at a table. I was working

12:45

then for the Washington Times

12:47

and I was sitting at a table. Maybe I was with the examiner

12:49

then. Can't really quite remember. I'll

12:52

think about it for a second. I

12:54

was sitting there at a table and

12:56

lo

12:57

and behold, a Chinese reporter,

12:59

she came and sat next to me, young Chinese

13:01

reporter. And she said, oh my goodness,

13:03

you're Sarah Carter. I'm so excited

13:06

to meet you. I see your coverage

13:08

all the time. You know,

13:11

she was super nice. See your coverage

13:13

all the time in Afghanistan and Iraq. It

13:15

was like she knew me. It was

13:16

like, wow, she, you

13:19

know, I was so flattered. Oh, you're reading

13:21

my stories at the Washington Times and

13:23

at the Washington Examiner. I'm sure I was

13:26

there already. And we were talking

13:28

and out comes our dinner, which is

13:30

like all kinds of delicious things, apparently.

13:33

I can't remember, but it was pan

13:36

roasted salmon with

13:38

green beans and acorn squash and

13:40

all that yummy stuff they serve in Washington,

13:42

DC.

13:44

And the next thing you know, she's like, can I have your email

13:46

address? Can I have your number? I

13:48

gave her my email address, but I think I was already,

13:51

uh-uh,

13:52

big red flag started sticking up during

13:54

this conversation. And she was asking

13:56

me to come to China with her. and

13:59

uh... you should

20:00

after President Trump was elected and the whole Russia

20:03

hoax and how I broke all those stories

20:05

and how it's collecting that information and trying to connect

20:07

the dots. Well, that's what China's doing. China's

20:10

trying to connect the dots. It's trying to figure us

20:12

out. It's looking for our weakness and

20:14

it's exploiting us. It's exploiting

20:17

our children. It understands, do you think

20:19

the Chinese allow their children

20:21

to surf the internet the way we do?

20:24

That the Chinese government allows them to

20:26

utilize the internet in the same way? Oh no,

20:29

oh no, it's not.

20:32

It's not the same way at all. And by the way, they're

20:34

collecting it. And for all of you out there that think

20:37

this is an over exaggeration,

20:40

that is what the Chinese government wants

20:42

you to believe.

20:45

That is what they want you to believe

20:47

because they are the Trojan horse,

20:49

right?

20:51

This is what is happening in our

20:53

world today that we have become

20:55

so compromised,

20:57

But we can't even see it.

21:00

We're just so busy. We're doing

21:02

so much. We're not even seeing the forest through

21:04

the trees. We're

21:06

putting our children's lives in danger

21:08

and our nation in danger.

21:11

And even though, yes, the art of

21:13

the honeypot

21:14

has existed forever in the red sparrow

21:17

of Russia and Maria Butina

21:19

and Patrick Byrne and poor Maria Butina, but

21:22

she also,

21:23

probably according to Patrick, was a victim

21:25

of the whole thing. now back in

21:28

Russia, but

21:30

this game of espionage

21:32

goes far beyond

21:34

what we ever imagined.

21:37

And just like me, my first,

21:41

what I assumed was a real experience

21:44

with a spy trying to

21:47

befriend me and get me to talk

21:49

and maybe try to get me to go to Beijing.

21:53

You

21:55

don't really realize it when it's happening to you.

21:58

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As you all know out there, I spend

24:57

a lot of time focused on China. I

24:59

focus on Central America,

25:02

our Western hemisphere. And there's a reason

25:04

for that

25:05

because I do believe that the United States

25:07

is probably under the greatest threat it has

25:10

faced in a long time.

25:12

And that is coming from our adversaries, adversaries

25:14

like China, like president Xi Jinping,

25:18

who

25:18

see an opening

25:19

right now at targeting the United

25:21

States, particularly bringing

25:23

the United States down a level,

25:25

like on a geopolitical

25:27

level is what I'm talking about, in order

25:29

to establish itself, to

25:32

establish China as the

25:34

main player, as a dominant player in

25:36

world global affairs. And that

25:39

affects us how? It affects us in every

25:41

which way we saw what happened to our

25:43

nation

25:44

under COVID

25:45

with the lockdowns for two years. Now

25:47

the FBI director admits obviously

25:50

President Trump knew that and he knew that because

25:53

I believe he was briefed

25:55

a number of times on this, but that the

25:58

COVID virus actually came.

33:52

were

34:00

there arrests here in Guatemala. Ample

34:02

proved that they were actually doing pay

34:04

for play with judicial cases.

34:07

They were actually misusing

34:09

money to buy overpriced

34:14

buildings for the institution and

34:16

they were getting kickbacks on that. Now

34:18

suddenly they have political asylum in the

34:20

United States.

34:22

So what does that speak about? What

34:24

does that say about the United States? Talk about

34:26

that in detail. Talk about that in detail

34:28

about this group, because I think this is important.

34:31

People really don't know that this is

34:33

happening. It's really under

34:35

the radar.

34:36

I mean, Guatemala has been for

34:38

a long time, and I spoke with President Giamattia,

34:41

also President Jimmy Morales,

34:43

when he was in charge. And

34:46

both presidents, both Guatemalan

34:48

presidents, have said, look, we want accountability

34:51

for where money is going when it comes from

34:53

the UN into our country and

34:55

it's being fed into NGOs

34:58

or non-governmental groups or

35:00

in the international courts or in the

35:02

makeup of whatever the UN

35:04

wants to see happen

35:06

here

35:07

by pressure of State Department.

35:10

And that became a real problem

35:12

for some people in our own State Department.

35:15

Not so much under President Trump at all,

35:18

but certainly under

35:19

Obama's administration, under

35:21

the Biden administration, Hillary

35:24

Clinton. That was a huge

35:26

issue when she was Secretary of State. Explain

35:28

that a little. So

35:31

here's the worst part of it all there. And

35:33

you said it. It's all about transparency. And

35:35

let's put the former president

35:38

of Guatemala outside as Americans.

35:40

How is our money being used? Where

35:43

is the transparency in all these projects?

35:45

This is state of government to INL, their

35:48

International Narcotics Law Enforcement. They

35:50

have spent close to a billion dollars

35:53

in the last 10 years here and there is no

35:55

way they can account for every single cent they

35:57

have misused because they have used it in

35:59

pet projects.

35:59

that they give, and a lot of

36:02

the money goes to their body, that this network

36:04

of NGOs, all good

36:07

type of network, they

36:09

give them the money, a lot of that, millions

36:12

at a time to NGOs, where

36:15

their bodies are advisors or

36:17

seat on the boards, and that money gets

36:20

put in there, and they use 80%

36:22

of that money or more into

36:25

salaries, and only 10 to 15% gets

36:28

used actually in projects that really

36:30

make a change. And then they boast

36:32

that, oh, we have helped all these people,

36:35

but there isn't a real change, obviously, because you still

36:37

see a lot of people going, trying

36:40

to get to the United States illegally. So

36:43

now where is the return on that investment?

36:45

How was our money used?

36:48

I know for a fact that a lot of that money was

36:50

actually used on publicity and

36:52

advertising strategies to prop up

36:55

this pet

36:57

project of theirs, the famously

36:59

SIG, the Commission Against Impunity in Guatemala,

37:01

that became really

37:05

a political persecution tool of the left. I'm

37:08

not saying that there is corruption. There is corruption

37:10

in Guatemala, there is corruption in the United States,

37:12

a lot of it, and there is corruption in every

37:15

single country in the world.

37:16

But how come they were not persecuting

37:19

corruption across

37:21

the board. No, they were focusing only on

37:23

anything that

37:24

damaged the

37:27

conservative

37:31

movement

37:32

and the private sector. While you

37:34

have all these other networks

37:37

of people that have been working in academia, that

37:39

have been hiding inside the bureaucracy

37:41

of Guatemala and the judicial system and

37:44

buying and getting kickbacks

37:47

from corrupt actors.

37:49

They were untouched.

37:51

Now, so you had people that led

37:54

our attorney general's office, the former attorney

37:56

general, the former special

37:58

investigator against corruption.

43:59

and attacks your school

44:02

with all your children in the military school,

44:05

and then you have 200 and something children

44:07

dead, you know, at the hands of your

44:09

tiger,

44:10

which is what happened in Pakistan many times. I

44:13

think that's what we've done here.

44:15

But you and I both know that we can

44:18

clean this up. You and I both

44:20

know the capabilities,

44:22

me covering intelligence and military

44:25

for all these years, you working

44:27

in the intelligence community,

44:29

You and I both know that

44:31

if we wanted to take

44:33

out

44:34

these snakes and just destroy

44:37

them, mean

44:37

take over their funding, take out their

44:39

leadership, really do something

44:43

spectacular we could. A lot more

44:45

than just arresting Chapo Guzman

44:47

and putting him in the Supermax while

44:49

the rest of his gang runs Sinaloa.

44:51

Here's the thing.

44:54

Let's mention Chapo Guzman or any of

44:56

the big narco bosses

44:59

of Mexico and the world.

45:01

They

45:01

all get captured because they own

45:04

the networks outside the United States.

45:06

Think about it. Who is the Chapo of the United States?

45:09

Who holds the strings on all

45:11

the distribution lines of cocaine

45:13

and drugs in the United States? Give me his number and I'll call

45:16

him for an interview. I don't

45:18

know. I don't know. So when we're doing

45:20

it, it's not something systemic

45:23

just happening.

45:24

Someone is leading the drug

45:26

distribution in the United States

45:28

and no one is demanding. I

45:30

mean, why is it not we the people need to demand?

45:33

Guys, let's focus on the cartels at home.

45:35

Right. I absolutely agree with

45:37

you. Let's segue there because I think the cartels

45:39

and now we have this complex like

45:42

system where We also have the NGOs

45:45

and we just talked about it a little bit, but where

45:47

the NGOs are not

45:49

only getting the money and you talked very

45:51

eloquently and you stated it flatly like, where

45:54

is this money going? We don't have accountability for

45:56

it, but we have NGOs that are actually

45:58

assisting in the movement of

57:59

time it even, even if it ends up in Central

58:02

America, even if it ends up in the United

58:04

States, even if it ends up in the hands of a politician

58:07

there or here or a narco, it's

58:10

already been so washed that

58:12

by the time it gets there, it's almost

58:14

impossible to find out

58:16

where it originated,

58:18

except for the person that originated or the country

58:20

that originated it, right? Because they could

58:22

have, they could see exactly

58:25

where it's going.

58:26

I mean, if I I was China and I'm saying like, okay,

58:28

I want to make sure this $25 million ends up in

58:31

the hands

58:35

of this charity

58:37

in an effort to move this many people

58:40

towards the... I mean, I could do that. I could

58:42

see that. I mean, it might not be playing out perfectly,

58:45

but it'll definitely go to my plan.

58:47

That's brilliant. And again,

58:50

it's brilliant, but it's evil as well, right? And

58:52

think about it, how much money is

58:54

being made of that everyone gets

58:56

a cut and there's enough money to make

58:58

sure that the banking systems of all

59:01

these countries don't look into them.

59:02

Think about it. So there is another component

59:05

of corruption there to make sure that the laws stay in

59:07

place as they are and no

59:09

system looks into those transactions.

59:13

And

59:13

again, you talked

59:16

about a

59:17

tiger and that's kind of like

59:19

our own problem, right? So we feed these

59:21

tigers,

59:22

and that's what we started doing with China.

59:25

We started feeding the Chinese tiger, sending

59:27

them all this manufacturing

59:30

towards them. And now it has become a dragon,

59:33

and the dragon has turned on us.

59:36

Now, you remember that saying from the

59:38

Romans, the dracotortas,

59:40

dragon is at the gate.

59:42

Well the dragon is already flying over us, no

59:44

pun intended with the balloons, but it

59:46

really is.

59:48

And the dragon is ready to start fighting

59:51

and throwing the real balls

59:53

of fire towards the United States. And

59:56

it's not in window, it's a real war.

59:59

They are already here.

1:00:01

Chinese don't have all the limitations

1:00:03

that the US has imposed on itself

1:00:05

to actually do business in the region.

1:00:08

They pay money under the table

1:00:10

to politicians, to

1:00:13

governments.

1:00:14

They open the doors to them. Yeah, we even

1:00:16

saw with Eric Swalwell, we even saw

1:00:18

with Eric Swalwell,

1:00:19

his connections to

1:00:22

Fei-Fei. And

1:00:25

I'm not, I mean, that's just one example of

1:00:27

something that became public. So Chinese are

1:00:29

just very aggressive. They're

1:00:34

becoming more aggressive and no

1:00:36

one is pushing back other than small

1:00:38

countries that really don't want them here because for

1:00:41

instance, that's the example

1:00:43

that I give all the time. What happened to Costa

1:00:45

Rica? Costa Rica, a very nice

1:00:48

country, very prosperous country, safely

1:00:51

in a lot of ways.

1:00:52

And they made this

1:00:55

deal,

1:00:57

this trade

1:00:59

agreement with China. And

1:01:01

it was vis-a-vis going to be a

1:01:04

balanced trade agreement.

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And what happened is that China flooded

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the Costa Rican market with

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their products and literally destroyed

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the manufacturing industry in

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Costa Rica. So

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what happened with all those people without

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jobs, right? Of course, obviously,

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they found other ways to, they put

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a lot of money into tourism and things

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like that, and they kind of offset that

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problem. But other countries that don't

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have all those

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advantages that Costa Rica had, if

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they go to China, China is going to destroy

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their production and create a new army

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of poor people need and

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obviously who's going to use them, all these NGOs

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that need them in the United States as new voters.

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I think that's, I mean, I think that's exactly

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what they're doing. And I'm going to bring you back

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on Mario to talk about more of this because

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this is probably one of the most.