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To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

Released Wednesday, 5th April 2023
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To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

To Preserve Freedom, We Must Defeat the Left's War on Information

Wednesday, 5th April 2023
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0:00

Hey guys, the Biden administration

0:03

is using the IRS to target journalists.

0:13

They sent agents from the IRS

0:15

to Matt Taibbi's house the day

0:18

he was set to testify

0:20

on censorship before Congress. Do

0:22

you think that's just a coincidence? I mean that

0:24

the IRS just shows up at

0:27

Matt Taibbi's house the day he's supposed

0:29

to testify before Congress.

0:32

I don't think so. I don't really believe in coincidences

0:35

like this. I've been around long enough to know

0:37

how the government operates when it comes

0:40

to journalists. And let's

0:42

just listen to this clip. This is a

0:45

Congresswoman Sylvia Garcia. She's

0:47

a Democrat at Texas. She is

0:49

questioning

0:49

Taibbi, trying

0:52

to basically find out who

0:55

his source is, who gave him all

0:58

this information on Twitter, and she's doing

1:00

everything she can to try

1:03

to get that information

1:05

out of him before Congress. It's a joke, Taibbi's

1:08

a professional, he knows the game.

1:10

He knows what she's doing, but she's so lackadaisical.

1:14

When you watch this clip, if you're watching on YouTube,

1:16

She's got her hand on her cheek

1:18

and she's kind of nonchalantly

1:21

acting like some kind of old fashioned

1:23

detective. I don't

1:24

know what's going on here, but take a listen

1:26

to this. Mr. Taibbi,

1:30

I want to follow up a little bit on the ranking

1:32

members' questions. What

1:35

was the first time that Mr. Musk

1:38

approached you about writing the

1:41

Twitter files? Again,

1:43

Congresswoman, that would... I

1:46

just need a date sir, but I can't

1:48

give it to you unfortunately because this

1:50

is a question of sourcing and I don't give up I'm

1:53

the journalist. I don't reveal my source

1:54

is a question of chronology No, that's a question. No,

1:56

that's a question. You earlier said that someone

1:59

had said you'd... the internet some message about

2:01

whether or not you would be interested in some information

2:04

yes and i referred to that person as a source

2:08

so you're not going to tell us when must

2:10

first approached you again

2:13

congressman and you're asking you or interest me a journalist

2:16

reveals doing you consider mr musk

2:18

to be the direct source of all this

2:21

no no you're you're trying to get me to say that

2:23

he is the source i will live

2:25

in israel or he uses or if you're

2:27

telling me you can answer because it's your source

2:30

it will then that the only logical conclusion

2:32

is that he is in fact your source

2:33

of you're free to conclude the well

2:38

you know what so would so incredible

2:40

about that is that the democrats

2:42

are putting tell be on the defensive

2:45

were in it should

2:47

be completely the other way around i

2:49

mean at this moment in time it's

2:52

pretty obvious

2:54

that

2:54

the democrats the particularly

2:57

we've seen with the department of justice

3:00

with the f b i ah let's

3:02

name other agencies inside the

3:04

government we've seen it with the

3:06

national health institute as

3:08

a young age the national institute of health

3:11

we've seen it with other agencies we've

3:13

seen the weaponization of

3:15

our agencies

3:17

against the

3:18

american people against

3:20

political candidates we saw that certainly

3:23

under the russia hoax which

3:25

i spent years of my life trying

3:27

to uncover against president trump and

3:29

now we certainly see this against

3:32

tb i've also felt the way

3:35

of the federal government bearing down on

3:37

me and my personal life and

3:39

especially at the very beginning

3:41

of my career and then later throughout my

3:43

career these

3:44

these people will stop at nothing

3:47

literally at nothing to

3:49

try to get their way and they

3:51

threaten they destroy lives

3:54

and personally i believe

3:56

there are people in the bureaucracy that have

3:58

way too much power

4:00

i'll tell you a little bit about that when

4:02

we come back from this break oh

4:04

yeah when i tell you first before i

4:06

go into a

4:08

little bit about what happened

4:10

to me ah and john solomon

4:12

under will we were cut uncovering

4:14

and unraveling the russia hoax

4:17

investigation

4:17

for those of you so much has

4:19

happened since then for those of you who might

4:21

not remember ah during president

4:23

trump's you know first

4:25

the very first selection two thousand and sixteen

4:28

there was a concerted effort by democrats

4:31

and

4:31

the hillary clinton campaign and now

4:33

we know this is all fact and

4:35

factual to target president

4:38

trump to

4:38

target him in

4:40

such

4:40

a fashion that the abused

4:43

the system of government to basically

4:46

go after him and and i think they went

4:48

much further than white people

4:50

actually realize i

4:52

believe that the f b

4:54

i putting together that will maybe that whole christopher

4:56

steele dossier the why the

4:58

big dossier using a foreign

5:00

agent and m i six agent

5:03

to target the president

5:05

being paid for by

5:08

fusion gps basically

5:09

a former wall street journal

5:11

reporter working as

5:13

a private eyes so to speak to build dossiers

5:16

on political candidates used

5:19

christopher steele gathered all that information

5:21

who paid for it o lo and behold

5:23

hillary clinton hillary

5:25

clinton she paid for it

5:27

she paid for the lights she paid

5:30

for lies not

5:32

for truth for lies lies

5:34

which by the way were published in

5:36

mainstream media news outlets

5:39

leaked by senior level officials

5:41

in the united states government that

5:43

being john brennan i believe

5:46

was very much involved in that and he had

5:48

actually briefed president trump

5:50

on the dossier with

5:52

call me and clapper in january

5:54

two thousand and seventeen when

5:57

president trump was

5:59

getting right

6:00

to take over as president.

6:02

In early January, they went to

6:05

Trump Tower

6:07

and they briefed him on this dossier

6:10

that was then leaked and

6:13

by my sources up on Capitol Hill and

6:15

I wrote about this quite frequently, it was

6:17

James Clapper who leaked it to CNN

6:20

and BuzzFeed News then felt okay

6:23

to publish the entire dossier

6:25

and target a sitting

6:28

US president.

6:30

And now we know that it was all lies.

6:32

It was just complete and utter fabrication

6:34

and lies. And it actually had

6:37

Russian disinformation in there, real Russian disinformation.

6:40

And the reason why I bring this

6:42

up,

6:43

and the reason why this is so important,

6:46

is because what we are seeing today, as

6:49

we uncovered all of these stories, The

6:52

rats on the sinking ship started

6:54

to pile up on top of one another.

6:57

The wolves came out of their lair, right?

7:00

They are freaking out, folks.

7:03

People in Washington, D.C. cannot

7:06

contain themselves because

7:08

they are being exposed.

7:11

That is what you are seeing.

7:12

Why are they going after Matt Taibbi, a

7:15

very well-respected journalist,

7:17

someone who everybody liked?

7:20

Everyone. All of the media

7:22

loved him.

7:23

He was writing for Rolling Stone. He

7:25

was writing, you know, sometimes, and he's

7:28

definitely more open about it. He seems very

7:30

much more of a liberal,

7:32

left leaning

7:34

person. Although I know him,

7:36

I've met him once. I don't know him well, but I've met

7:38

him. And I thought he was fantastic.

7:41

I think he's an excellent journalist.

7:44

And now they were targeting

7:46

him. Why? Because

7:49

Matt Taibbi, through

7:51

his sources,

7:53

along with Barry Weiss and others,

7:55

have been able to thread together the

7:58

government's collusion.

8:00

with social media and

8:02

would away mean about this what

8:05

am i seeing here

8:07

the

8:07

government was literally

8:09

going after journalists

8:13

through

8:13

their ability to

8:15

reach the masses like me on

8:18

twitter or n facebook

8:20

instagram you know snap

8:22

chat whatever it may be

8:25

minimizing the voices they did not

8:27

want you

8:28

to here and

8:30

amplifying those voices of those

8:32

they did want you to hear

8:35

they

8:35

were getting directly involved

8:37

in elections in

8:40

narrations and narratives of

8:42

what was actually going on the

8:45

government officials that were involved in

8:47

this which was the f b i have be i went

8:49

and spoke to face book mark

8:51

zuckerberg we know that now

8:54

we

8:54

also know that they went to people at twitter

8:57

and

8:58

it was especially during the time when miranda

9:01

divine with the new york post and

9:03

others were getting ready to publish all of the

9:05

stories on hunter biden

9:07

prior

9:07

to the election because

9:09

of the biden laptop

9:12

which

9:12

was the left city at

9:14

a delaware computer shop it

9:16

was a cry for help from joe biden

9:18

sign in my opinion hunter biden just once

9:21

the whole world to know how screwed that whole family

9:23

years

9:25

and years to

9:27

and instead of allowing

9:31

the media because we're

9:34

the united states of america to do

9:36

our job and instead of trying

9:38

to direct the media because where the united

9:40

states of america we have a first amendment the

9:43

united states government got

9:45

directly involved

9:48

in

9:48

an election

9:51

shut

9:51

down voices of people that would

9:53

be amplified people that would get the message out

9:55

to the american public so that you would know

9:58

that the biden family was taking money from

10:00

china that the biden family was taking money

10:02

from ukraine that the bidens had

10:04

all of these issues ongoing

10:06

issues and that this laptop from hell

10:09

as miranda divines book is so well states

10:11

it

10:12

was real instead they went and

10:14

they said hey guess what guys

10:16

this is russian disinformation you probably

10:19

don't want to allow anyone to posted

10:21

he stories about this you probably

10:23

want to stop this all before

10:26

the election so who's getting involved in an

10:28

election i

10:29

want you to take a listen to this and then i'm gonna

10:31

tell you how the government does

10:33

this because the government

10:36

i believe when the iris

10:38

went to match i you bees home while

10:40

he was giving testimony and

10:42

went looking for him i

10:45

believe that was pretty much

10:47

saying we're going to make your life a living hell from

10:50

now on that

10:51

this is not just some

10:53

kind of coincidence

10:56

this

10:56

was a very real very well

10:58

thought out and methodical action

11:00

by the government they do it all the time to

11:03

shut the mouths of people out there

11:05

who have information and truth and

11:07

want get it out to the public

11:10

and

11:10

i want you to take a listen to this and that i'm in a comeback

11:12

i'm until you were john solomon

11:14

and i had to go through and what i had to go through

11:17

and particular i during the russia

11:19

gate scandal as well as when

11:21

i first

11:22

started writing investigative pieces

11:24

at the daily bulletin

11:27

or focus of this for spring that workers

11:29

mark noted is making lists of

11:31

people whose opinions beliefs associations

11:34

are sympathies are deemed misinformation

11:37

just information or mel information

11:40

that last term is just a euphemism

11:42

for true but inconvenient

11:44

undeniably the making of such lists

11:47

is a form of digital mccarthyism ordinary

11:50

americans are not just being reported to twitter

11:52

for the amplification of the platforming

11:54

with the from for tape how he's

11:56

absolutely right everything

11:59

even when i

12:00

produce my podcast you know you rely

12:02

on advertisers cause you can't do everything

12:04

for free or would love to but

12:06

you know this takes up time in your day

12:08

if

12:08

you're a writer and you're trying to turn

12:11

stories into like rolling stone

12:13

or you're a freelance writer as matt

12:15

taibbi was and working you know can send

12:17

his stories to other various news publications

12:20

he has to be able to do that and

12:22

to make a living at it he

12:24

has to be able to spend his days investigating

12:27

collecting information are doing

12:29

the job to inform the american

12:32

public but

12:33

if all the sudden somebody each in

12:35

the government or

12:36

somebody with power reaches

12:38

out to one of these powerful

12:41

platforms and says hey you know where

12:43

this person's causing me a lot of problems i

12:45

know you know i think we need to

12:48

reduce their amplification which

12:50

means that they have algorithms to

12:52

reduce your voice i've seen that even on

12:54

my platform we

12:55

have we tried to figure

12:57

it out we are like what is going on here like

13:00

people would say i didn't even think you around anymore

13:02

they didn't even see me on twitter

13:05

they couldn't even see me on any of these

13:07

platforms for a long time

13:09

they'd have to literally go to my page that have

13:11

to go to my page and

13:13

then they would then they would see it but

13:15

they wouldn't see me outside of that

13:19

and

13:19

then there were other issues

13:22

like

13:22

when i first started reporting and i i

13:24

don't ever realized it as much as

13:26

i do now but

13:28

i remember when i was first covering

13:30

stories of the daily bulletin and i was writing

13:32

a lot of stories on united states citizenship

13:34

and immigration services and i've actually

13:37

stayed in touch with these whistle blowers

13:39

since then and

13:40

it was an these stories

13:42

word so

13:43

important and i felt like

13:46

you

13:47

know as much as we wrote about him there was it

13:49

it it didn't it didn't affect the

13:51

change that we really wanted that

13:54

we really wanted to mainly

13:56

because mainly because

13:58

we were up against the massive

14:01

bureaucracies. But we got the truth

14:03

out there.

14:04

And that truth was, much like you see

14:06

at the border right now,

14:08

and much like you see happening in the United States,

14:11

people were being allowed into our country without

14:14

being fully vetted. They

14:15

weren't being vetted at all.

14:17

And these whistle blowers had that information

14:19

and I was able to expose some

14:21

of that. Not all of that because I didn't have all

14:24

the facts, but I exposed a lot of it. I

14:26

had documentation to prove. I had

14:28

whistleblowers to prove it. I had

14:31

also documents that

14:34

never made public, but

14:36

were very damaging

14:38

to the government.

14:40

But because of the way they

14:42

threatened the whistleblowers,

14:44

it became very difficult to be able to

14:46

tell some parts of those stories, but they

14:48

also threatened me. I remember

14:51

being asked to fly all the way to Washington

14:53

DC to meet officials at USCIS.

14:56

I was a young journalist and I walked

14:58

into the building and I felt

15:00

like I had been targeted. I thought

15:02

I was going to have an interview

15:05

with an official about my story

15:07

and I had lawyers surrounding

15:09

me, people telling me that

15:12

if I wanted to save my career as a

15:14

journalist, I wouldn't go down that road.

15:17

They made it very uncomfortable for me. I

15:19

was also a young, young journalist making

15:22

maybe

15:22

at that time,

15:24

maybe $14 an hour.

15:29

I was so scared. I was so frustrated.

15:32

Even during that same timeframe, and this was

15:35

back in the early 2000s, I remember I

15:40

was heading to the border and

15:43

I was also covering a story on border patrol

15:45

agents. I don't know if you guys all remember this. Some

15:47

of you do. not, you can look it up. Ignacio

15:50

Ramos Nacho,

15:52

Ramos and Jose Compián.

15:54

The stories were to Aramis and Compiyan, the two border

15:56

patrol agents that were eventually acquitted

15:58

after two years. of my work

16:01

and assistance from Congress for

16:04

their role in firing on

16:07

a drug dealer at the US-Mexico

16:09

border. They were sentenced to 12 and 14

16:11

years, I believe, in prison. And

16:13

after two years, their sentences were commuted

16:16

by President Bush. And then under

16:18

President Trump, they were pardoned,

16:21

which is phenomenal.

16:23

But while I was down at the border and

16:26

I was working on the story, I get a call. I

16:28

have a document that I wanted to

16:31

actually publish and I

16:33

wanted to first visit the people that were on that

16:35

document list. And this

16:37

was from United States Citizenship and Immigration

16:40

Services and it appeared to be people that

16:42

had been adjudicated into the United

16:44

States without any background checks.

16:47

And the person that adjudicated

16:49

them, it appeared, it appeared

16:51

that they had taken money, that

16:53

They had taken some money

16:56

to adjudicate them from being just

16:58

like a work visa

17:00

all the way to US citizen

17:02

within a second.

17:04

That's almost impossible.

17:05

These people were from all over the world.

17:09

I thought maybe, wow, did I stumble

17:11

on a witness protection program list?

17:14

I actually thought that and I contacted

17:16

the FBI.

17:19

And I contacted the FBI in Kansas

17:21

City where the processing center was,

17:24

USCIS processing center. And

17:26

I said, look, I have a document. It may be a

17:28

witness protection program document. I don't know

17:30

what I have right here, but it's really

17:33

starting to make me very nervous. I see

17:35

this movement and I talked to one FBI

17:37

agent who was like, well, I, you know,

17:39

basically blew me off and then later called me

17:41

back and said, uh, well, go ahead and write

17:43

about it because we don't know anything about it. Like everybody

17:45

was

17:46

either hands off, we don't know anything about

17:48

it, or we don't know what you have.

17:50

I end up getting a call

17:53

and mind you, I'm working on this other story

17:56

and I have this one that I'm working on on

17:58

the side.

17:59

and the... person

18:00

tells me, you know, if you

18:02

plan on visiting any people on that list,

18:06

I certainly would hate for anything

18:08

to happen to you.

18:10

I would hate to see your face on the

18:12

cover of the El Paso Times.

18:14

And I said, whoa, wait a minute. Are you threatening

18:17

me? Are you threatening my life? And

18:20

they said, no, I'm just telling you that maybe

18:22

some of those people on that list,

18:26

you know, they might be dangerous people.

18:28

I would hate to see your face on the cover

18:31

of the El Paso Times.

18:34

And I couldn't

18:38

even believe what

18:40

I was hearing. And

18:42

I was also a

18:45

very young journalist. By the way, I still

18:47

have that document.

18:50

I wasn't

18:51

able to figure out and

18:53

I'm still working on it, believe it or not. I'm like

18:55

a, I'm like a bulldog. I don't let anything

18:58

go.

18:59

And I know that

19:01

the people that I've worked with in the past, those

19:03

whistleblowers whose lives

19:06

by the way were

19:08

destroyed

19:09

by the United States government, by people within

19:11

the US government, because they also

19:13

worked for the US government. These were the good guys,

19:16

right? These are the people like

19:18

the whistleblowers who are talking to Jim Jordan

19:20

now, who want the truth out, who

19:23

want to inform the American public about

19:25

what's going on. These are the same kind

19:27

of whistleblowers who said, hey, look,

19:30

what's going on with President Trump? That's

19:32

a bunch of lies. And let me

19:35

explain to you why. And this is

19:37

the rabbit hole that you need to start

19:39

going down.

19:42

These are good people.

19:44

These are people who believe in the Constitution,

19:47

like Matt Taibbi,

19:48

people who believe in our Bill of

19:51

Rights, people who want

19:53

to expose the malfeasance

19:56

and lies

19:57

and corruption, people like...

20:00

one musk who

20:01

want to disinfect

20:03

this

20:03

illness by

20:05

putting light on it

20:08

these

20:08

are the people that

20:10

really

20:11

do believe that

20:13

you are

20:14

capable of making your own

20:17

decisions once you

20:19

know the truth that

20:21

is what our founding fathers believe

20:23

in that's

20:25

what i believe in that's why i'm a journalist

20:27

that's

20:28

why continue to do the work that i do today

20:30

even as a columnist and investigative

20:33

columnist that

20:35

is what i believe

20:37

the other side they

20:39

don't believe that they

20:41

don't believe you're smart enough to make your

20:43

own decisions they

20:45

don't believe that

20:47

you are capable of doing

20:49

what

20:49

you need to do

20:52

to make this nation a better place

20:54

and

20:54

that's frightening and that's mccarthyism

20:57

i'm gonna be right back for someone to tell you about allegiance

20:59

gold you know i've talked about allegiance

21:01

world and i really believe in this organization

21:03

why because it allows us

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to protect our money right gold

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and silver allow you to protect

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what you worked so hard for we just

21:12

can't even trust the banking system anymore

21:15

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21:18

to me i will only recommend

21:20

allegiance cold and right now you

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So part of what we were discussing

23:02

is, you know, the government

23:04

being so involved

23:06

right now in

23:08

everything, in every aspect of our life.

23:11

This wasn't the way America was founded.

23:13

It wasn't the way we were. I

23:15

don't believe our founding fathers perceived it

23:17

to be.

23:18

I think we live in a world now where information

23:21

and technology is rapidly

23:24

exceeding

23:25

our ability to

23:28

control it,

23:29

right? So when you have a government that

23:31

has such an expansive network

23:35

or intelligence apparatus, whether that

23:37

just be even law enforcement like the FBI or

23:40

the CIA overseas or the NSA,

23:44

we have now gone way

23:46

beyond where maybe we needed

23:49

we needed to take a step back and

23:51

say, how is this going to affect all our lives?

23:54

And the reason why I bring this up is because

23:57

Just like how Matt Taibbi is facing like

23:59

the weaponizing

24:00

shen of you know

24:02

this government against him

24:04

which

24:04

is what i believe especially with that visit

24:06

from the i r s agent and

24:08

what i've seen happened to john solomon

24:10

and i remember john you know

24:13

so many different instances where

24:15

you know he he and i both would suspect that

24:17

there were people like watching eyes

24:20

or following us or where

24:22

are com are phone conversations being listened

24:24

to and we know that that's happened because

24:26

we know now that people that we spoke

24:28

with were

24:30

being listened to

24:32

that

24:32

their phone calls were being monitored

24:34

that their text messages

24:37

were being monitored you

24:39

know it's a pretty frightening

24:41

time and

24:44

these expansive capabilities

24:46

that allow our government to spy on

24:48

our adversaries should

24:50

not be used to

24:52

spy on american citizens

24:55

the united states government should not

24:57

be able to spy

25:00

on journalists should

25:02

not be able to

25:04

negate

25:07

right push out what

25:09

they don't want you to hear

25:13

and

25:13

then amplify those

25:15

voices of propaganda that they do want

25:17

you to hear it's

25:18

so

25:20

wrong and it goes

25:22

against everything that

25:24

we as a republic believe in

25:26

and

25:26

it frankly it terrifies me

25:29

it terrifies me just

25:31

look back in history at that

25:34

were able to do this they weaponize

25:36

the systems against their people the old

25:38

you ssr russia

25:40

even today

25:42

pakistan afghanistan

25:45

you know and now look are we

25:47

any better look

25:50

at what we've done to our country

25:52

look

25:52

at what we're doing to our people

25:55

look

25:55

at the fights up on capitol hill if you

25:58

all are not paying attention you should be

26:00

You know,

26:03

we are being watched. It's

26:06

like big brother. It's like 1984.

26:10

We can't control what is happening in our

26:12

country.

26:13

We're unable to, I guess,

26:15

speak the truth, but

26:17

slowly but surely Americans

26:19

are standing up.

26:21

Slowly but surely people

26:23

are saying, whoa, wait a minute.

26:25

I mean, they tried to make Matt Taibbi

26:27

look out to be, look to be like some

26:29

so-called journalist.

26:32

What?

26:33

Barry Weiss. I remember when they did

26:35

that even to me.

26:36

And John Solomon, there were people that were saying, wow,

26:38

you guys better be right, or they're gonna

26:41

destroy you. And I said, I am telling the

26:43

truth. We are telling the truth.

26:46

The FBI has been weaponized.

26:49

We've seen what's happened in our government.

26:52

And I'm not gonna stop telling the truth

26:56

because somebody is threatening me. Otherwise,

26:58

why would I do what I do?

27:00

Our

27:02

job is to be a watchdog for the American

27:05

people. Our job is to

27:07

be the voice when

27:09

somebody else can't, because they're either too

27:11

busy or they don't know.

27:14

Our job is to fight together,

27:18

to protect our nation

27:21

from outside adversaries.

27:24

But

27:24

how difficult is it now

27:27

when we

27:29

are struggling to protect

27:32

our nation from itself, from

27:34

the officials that we put

27:37

in office, the ones that we entrust

27:39

to protect us, to protect our

27:41

children, to protect our future, when

27:44

they are so,

27:46

so wrapped up in power

27:49

and they're are so desperate to

27:52

keep their power that they're willing to do anything

27:55

and everything

27:58

to destroy the fabric of the nation.

28:00

that we love that

28:02

our forefathers have died for.

28:06

You

28:06

know, when they have done everything to protect themselves,

28:10

but not the people of this country or our

28:12

nation.

28:14

That's pretty terrifying. You

28:17

know, it has

28:18

not been easy. It

28:21

has been a tough road for

28:23

many, I think for many of us.

28:26

COVID, the lies of COVID,

28:28

the lies on capital, on Capitol Hill, the

28:32

difficulty in getting the truth

28:34

out. Thank God for people

28:36

like Elon Musk and others and Matt Taibbi

28:39

who are saying, you know what, no more, I wanna

28:41

stand up to this

28:43

and I'm gonna tell the truth.

28:45

But

28:46

it has been a tough road

28:48

because

28:48

we're up against a machine.

28:51

A machine who has its gears

28:53

running and its people in place

28:56

and has worked diligently to

28:59

target those that want to expose

29:01

it.

29:02

At the top of this podcast,

29:05

I talked about rats on a scene.

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