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It looked like somebody was bent
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over and had their head in the
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window of the deer blind and it
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either heard me or smelled me and
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he pulled his head out of the tent
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and stood straight up and that
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shocked me.
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They don't make
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people that big.
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The way it moved, almost
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as if it was gliding across the beach. I've
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never seen anything move like that in my life.
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They were screaming at each other in gibberish.
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It sounded like a language and they
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were chuntering away back and forwards, back and
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forwards, back and forwards. I
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know what a bear looks like and there is no way
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on this planet that what I saw were bears.
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911, what are you reporting? Jesus
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Christ, you better... Terence, Theo! Hello? Get
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somebody out here. What's going on now, sir? Son
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of a gun. I've got a man down here. He's
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got a gun. He's got a gun. He's got a gun.
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He's got a gun. He's got a gun. He's
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got a gun. He's got a gun. He's
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got a gun. He's got a gun. He's
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got a gun. He's got a gun. He's got a
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gun. He's got a gun. I'm looking
1:24
right here. Do you see him
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now, sir? Yes, I'm looking right at him. Uh-oh.
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This is Nick from Vader, Washington, and
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you're listening to the best Bigfoot podcast
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out there, Sasquatch Chronicles.
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I'm Nick. I'm Sasquatch. I'm Sasquatch.
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I'm Sasquatch.
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Welcome to the show, everyone. Thanks for
2:13
being here tonight. Got a great show planned
2:16
for you. Uh, we will be chatting
2:18
with Jane and Jane comes to
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us from Kentucky. And
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back in 2022, uh, she
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had this encounter with
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a creature when she was out with her baby,
2:30
kind of waiting on her husband while he hunted.
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I'll let Jane go into it. If you've
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had an encounter and you'd like to be on the
2:37
show, shoot me an email. My
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Uh, let's jump into it tonight. I
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want to welcome Jane to the show.
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Jane, thanks for coming on.
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Thank you for having me Wes. Yeah.
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And you had an encounter on this property
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back in 2022. Um,
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I'm very fascinated by this encounter,
3:11
but you know, prior to seeing this creature,
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tell me a little bit about this property. I mean, did
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you guys notice weird things going on?
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Yeah, we, we bought
3:20
the property in November
3:23
of 2020 is when we moved in. And
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right after we bought it, we own 25 acres. It's
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mainly hillside and it's pretty
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heavily wooded and it backs up to probably
3:34
300 or 400 acres that are not, you
3:37
know, inhabited at all. It's just pure
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forest. And we're about 10 miles
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from the Daniel Boone National Forest. So, um,
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when we moved in, everything
3:47
went fine for a little while, you know, we were getting everything
3:49
kind of sorted out and then once springtime
3:52
came, so that would have been,
3:54
you know, right around April or so
3:57
of 2021, we started and
4:00
some stuff. And I mean,
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the way that the property sits is we
4:04
the house is like towards the front of the property
4:07
and then all of all of
4:09
our woods and everything is straight behind
4:11
us. Once we started
4:13
hearing, you know, some stuff and it would
4:15
just be like little things like whooping
4:18
and and things like that. And we're
4:20
not really close to any neighbors. But you know,
4:22
on a hillside, you think maybe sound
4:24
travels and stuff. So we
4:27
just kind of thought, well, maybe maybe it's people playing.
4:30
But then it would like get really close. And
4:32
you know, I've been in the woods my whole life. And so I
4:34
know the sounds that different animals
4:36
make. So I'm like, this is just really odd. You
4:39
know, the sounds that we were hearing. I mean, it was
4:41
just like a lot of whooping.
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I mean, just like a whoop, whoop, whoop.
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And
4:47
it just it would get loud. And then
4:49
sometimes we would hear howling, but it would be like
4:52
me and my husband and Joe were like, that is the longest,
4:55
you know, that who dog
4:57
has got like
4:58
the strongest set of lungs, you know,
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just because it was just continuing. I
5:02
mean, it would never break and
5:05
just stuff like that. And
5:08
we had heard one night, I
5:10
was I was in the house and I do leather work
5:13
and I was in the house and I heard like chattering,
5:15
like right outside right outside our door.
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And
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I was like, what in the world is that? So
5:21
I would go out and, you know, look around as
5:24
soon as I would crack the door, the sound
5:26
would stop. And then I would
5:28
go back in and I would, you know, I'd shut the door
5:30
and I'd listen again. And it sounded
5:32
like it was right outside of my
5:34
door. And the
5:37
closest sound that I can find, and it doesn't
5:39
even, you know,
5:40
it's not wasn't exactly what I heard, but was
5:42
like foxes chattering. But
5:45
like one, they would be chattering. And then
5:47
you would hear like a grunt, which would not
5:49
go at all, you know, along with like,
5:51
you know, the sound that Fox makes. So it
5:54
was just really odd. And we just kind of had some
5:57
some encounters like that. And it
5:59
At one point we had seen the
6:03
dogs had been barking a lot and we couldn't
6:05
figure it out. We had just had some trees
6:07
cleared off. We have horses and we
6:09
were trying to have some trees cleared off on
6:12
this hillside in order to make another
6:14
pasture.
6:15
Whenever the guy
6:17
had cleared it off, he had just pushed all the trees
6:19
down like in the ravine.
6:22
The way that everything's laid out is like
6:24
we're on a ridge line and then we own the ridge
6:29
line next to us and then the one on the other side
6:31
of us. We had had it cleared off to
6:34
the right hand side of us and
6:36
the dogs were barking over in that direction.
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I had a shot of spotlight out there and I'm
6:42
like, man, I see something hunching
6:45
down behind these trees that had
6:47
been knocked down.
6:48
It was dark and that
6:50
spotlight was really bright so I turned it down.
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I'm like, no, something is definitely ducking
6:55
down. I
6:57
went and got my husband and I went and got a gun. I'm
7:00
very like, shoot first, ask questions
7:02
later kind of girl.
7:04
I just shot some rounds over in
7:06
there.
7:07
My husband was like,
7:08
can't do that. What if that is somebody? I'm
7:10
like, well, maybe somebody shouldn't be on my property sneaking
7:13
around. I
7:16
don't know what it was. You could kind
7:18
of see it leave but it was really dark and
7:20
it was hunch down but it was very human-like
7:23
in how it was trying to avoid
7:25
us.
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I don't know what that was.
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Did you think it was someone on your property?
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I mean, at first I did just because of the way
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that it was acting. I
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mean, it was just very like head up
7:40
and like, oh,
7:41
shoot, I've gotten, they've seen me
7:44
so they would duck down but it's like they couldn't,
7:46
you couldn't see,
7:50
they couldn't know that you were all,
7:52
that you could still see them. So like you
7:54
could almost see that they were like trying
7:56
to
7:57
like hunch around and like try to get behind.
8:00
the trees and stuff. And I don't
8:02
know, it was very weird. And I mean, it was very dark.
8:04
So I've just thought it was people in clothes. So
8:06
we went back over there, like the next day to look for
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tracks and stuff. But where I
8:11
saw it at was like way, way
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too
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high for like a person to you,
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you know, to being able to see a person behind there.
8:19
So I was like, well, maybe it's somebody like climbing
8:21
up on them trees or something. And
8:23
you know, I'm very skeptical
8:25
by nature. So I'm trying to find every little,
8:28
you know, excuse I can and still
8:30
like what that was. And, you know,
8:33
I don't know what that was. But if
8:35
it was somebody, they were they were gonna get shot that night.
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I yeah, yeah,
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I apparently me if
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you would walk me into your encounter
8:46
because your encounter really, really fascinates
8:49
me, especially the behavior. Kind
8:52
of what were you doing? And what happened?
8:55
Okay, and this
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happened in November of 2022. So it's not quite
9:01
been a year yet since it happened. So it's
9:03
pretty fresh in my mind. And,
9:06
you know, growing
9:08
up, like I've always like I'm a Christian.
9:10
So, and we've always kind
9:13
of been of the mind like my dad,
9:15
my mom and my grandparents
9:17
have always kind of been of the same mindset that
9:19
like, you know, if, if,
9:21
you know, there's a heaven and there's a hell,
9:23
you know, and the Lord was able to
9:25
create all these other things, like,
9:28
don't, you know, don't just kick out
9:30
the possibility of there being other things, you know,
9:32
I mean, I truly believe there's things in this world that we
9:34
just do not understand. And that
9:37
I've always been like, Yeah, it's, you
9:39
know, it's a possibility. I'm not going to say that's not possible.
9:42
But when I hear other accounts and
9:44
stuff, I'm very like, Oh, well, that wasn't
9:47
that or this, you know, they were mistaken,
9:49
or, especially when people are you
9:51
know, having their mind, oh, I want
9:54
to see a Bigfoot. So they go out like
9:56
in search of like evidence. And then
9:58
you know, you're like, Oh, you've been wanting to hear it and then
10:01
they see something, you know, within the next week
10:03
or so. And I've always been really skeptical about
10:05
that. So that's
10:06
never really been in my
10:08
wheelhouse, like, as far as what
10:11
I think, you know, is going on, I'm always
10:13
very like logical minded, you know,
10:15
of, Oh, well, this is something or, you know, usually
10:17
if it's something weird, I'm like, well, it's a person, you know,
10:20
people are, people are weird in general. So
10:22
I'm like, well, you know, it's probably somebody.
10:24
So
10:26
November of last year, I'd
10:28
had a baby, our youngest baby
10:31
was four months old at the time
10:33
and our oldest daughter was
10:36
six and her son was five. I
10:38
had, I'd promised her older daughter that
10:41
I would take her deer hunting the opening
10:43
weekend
10:44
of modern rifle season. And
10:46
I'm not really a hunter or anything, but I
10:48
mean, I've been a couple of times, but she
10:50
really wanted to go. And I think it's just, you know, mainly
10:53
for the experience. And because we'd had the new baby,
10:55
I wanted
10:56
to spend, you know, time alone with
10:58
her. So
10:59
we decided that we were going to get up and go. And
11:02
we had a tree stand
11:05
set up over on my dad's property.
11:07
And my dad had actually, once we moved
11:09
in here, there was like
11:11
land that had not at all been touched. He
11:14
bought like another 20 acres next to
11:16
us
11:17
that he had, like, I don't know, like maybe four
11:19
acres cleared off and he had a cabin put in. But,
11:22
you know, all his property and everything
11:24
connected to us is nothing but woods. We own
11:26
maybe five acres that are cleared for the horses,
11:29
but
11:30
everything else is, I mean, just
11:33
heavily wooded. So
11:35
we, his property, the way that the ridge
11:37
goes, his is actually flatter than ours.
11:40
Ours is really, really steep. And
11:42
ours goes all the way up to the top
11:45
of like this mountain. And we've
11:47
actually, I've never been even to the top of that
11:49
property. I mean, I've been up as
11:51
high as I could go. And I mean, I was on all fours,
11:53
like digging and climbing, you know, ups
11:55
and everything to get up there. I mean, you'd have to have like
11:58
rock climbing equipment to get up. up to the top.
12:01
So we had had a tree stand
12:04
set up on my dad's place because it was a little
12:06
bit more open and it was flatter and you
12:08
know it was just a better spot overall to hunt.
12:11
Well by the time it had taken
12:14
you know we've got three kids so by the time
12:16
we got everybody up and
12:18
you know I got my little girl up and I had to feed the baby
12:20
I was still breastfeeding at the time and
12:23
you know I was trying to make sure my husband knew what to feed
12:25
you know our son for breakfast I mean it was
12:27
it was a you know an ordeal.
12:29
So by the time we got into the woods it
12:32
was getting ready to be daylight
12:34
it was and it was still dark but you could tell like
12:36
the sky was starting to light and just a little bit.
12:39
So we had started walking and
12:42
I knew because we left from the house
12:44
we didn't drive a side by side or anything we just were
12:46
walking and where we
12:48
were supposed to be going was probably three-quarter
12:51
of a mile into like
12:52
you know over across the ridge line and stuff maybe
12:55
a mile I mean it's a pretty good walk but I
12:57
figured that we could make it you know within 30 minutes but
13:01
by the time it ended up being we decided just
13:03
to wait at the first ridge on
13:06
where it backs up to like this cliff
13:09
and you know you can get around to the bottom of
13:12
it but the back of it is like way too steep
13:14
and there's no like I mean animals can't
13:16
get up there or anything so where we were at
13:19
we just stopped and I backed up against
13:21
a tree to where I could see both ridge lines
13:24
and you know where I was originally wanting to hunt
13:26
was still within like I view but you know
13:29
it wasn't as close as I'd hoped for but I could still
13:32
see and then it throwing
13:34
into view another ridge line so we
13:36
you know we kind of stopped there and
13:39
I was wearing a
13:41
like my papal used to always hunt in one it was just like
13:44
a blue jean like Levi
13:46
coat but then underneath of it I had my
13:49
husband's like camo hunting coat on
13:51
so because I wasn't planning
13:53
on sitting on the ground I had taken off the
13:55
the blue jean coat and I like laid it on
13:58
you know on the ground and
13:59
And we were sitting on it. I had taken
14:02
the gun and had propped
14:05
it up next to me on the tree because
14:07
my little girl was trying to get situated and stuff
14:09
and find out where she was comfortable. She
14:12
ended up kind of laying down in
14:14
my lap and we were watching these three
14:16
little gray squirrels play on these logs
14:19
down the hill in front of us. And
14:22
we were watching, I guess while we were watching that, she
14:24
had fallen asleep.
14:26
And we were probably there
14:28
for, I don't know, maybe 30 minutes or
14:30
something. I mean, it
14:33
was getting light in the sky. It wasn't
14:35
daylight yet, but I mean, it was getting pretty
14:38
light. We were like, you could see stuff. So
14:42
we were waiting there and I realized that she had fallen
14:44
asleep. So I was trying to shuffle back and
14:47
get comfortable. And I
14:49
was kind of then
14:50
trying to figure out how I was going to get the gun because
14:52
I knew when she woke up, she was going to be talking a lot.
14:55
So I was just like, I'll wait and get the gun closer to
14:58
me. And I just
15:00
had to reach over her to get it or whatever.
15:03
But I had a hunting knife on my side, on
15:05
my right hand side.
15:06
So we were just sitting there
15:08
and I heard a baby cry.
15:12
And I kind of stopped and listened and I was like,
15:15
what's that, a baby crying? The
15:17
squirrels kind of stopped too. And
15:20
as I was looking around, I heard it again.
15:23
And this time it was louder. I'm
15:26
like, what the heck? So I'm looking around trying
15:28
to find out exactly where it's at. And then
15:31
because we're nowhere near anybody else. I
15:33
mean, I know that sound travels up on
15:35
hills and stuff. So I'm thinking, well, maybe the
15:37
neighbors that are
15:39
a mile or two down from us, maybe
15:42
somehow it's echoing. But then I'm like, well, what if my
15:44
baby's crying? And I was
15:47
like, well, maybe my husband had gotten her out and maybe
15:49
she's crying really hard or something. And
15:51
he had gotten her out and was walking around on the
15:53
porch with her. I don't know how the sound would have carried, but
15:55
I'm like, that's the only baby I know that's
15:57
close by.
15:58
Because when I first. it sounded like it
16:01
was coming from like down in front of us
16:03
over to the side, which is where the house would have been. And, um, but
16:07
then I heard it again and it was like behind us and
16:10
it was getting like progressively louder. And
16:13
I was just like, the
16:15
best way I can describe it is I just like felt
16:17
really disoriented. Um,
16:20
kind of like confused. I don't know. It was
16:22
just a really weird feeling, almost like,
16:25
not that I didn't
16:27
know what was going on, but I like could not pinpoint
16:29
where that sound was at.
16:31
And the squirrels in front of me had like vanished.
16:33
Like they had run off.
16:35
And this might be too much information.
16:37
So I mean, you can cut this out, but I mean, I was still
16:39
breastfeeding at the time and the sound was loud
16:42
enough that my milk let down.
16:45
And I mean, that's how loud that cry was.
16:47
So then I started like panicking and I'm like, well,
16:50
maybe like, maybe my baby is crying
16:53
or something. Um, so
16:55
then I just like kind of wait and I'm like looking
16:57
around and I'm like, getting ready to get my phone out to
16:59
text my husband to be like, you know, is the baby
17:01
okay?
17:03
And I just hear like
17:06
this barrel in like sound
17:08
like starting at the top, like from, you
17:10
know, behind us. I mean, this mountain
17:13
is like, I mean, it's significant. It's not
17:15
just like a little hump you have to get over. I mean, it's,
17:18
it's multiple ledges like you, it's a,
17:20
you know, you have to get off and then it kind of levels
17:22
off. And I know that because I climbed up to that
17:25
first like leveled off spot. And
17:27
there's like a lot of big rock formations
17:29
and then you have to climb again. I mean, it's like an actual
17:31
cliff. I mean, you know, there's, there's multiple
17:33
steps to it. Um,
17:35
so like, I
17:37
hear just, just
17:39
this God
17:41
awful, like just barrel and sound
17:43
coming towards it. I mean, it sounds like a,
17:45
a car is just like rolling down
17:48
this, this mountain behind us.
17:50
And where I'm sitting
17:52
at, like it's behind me, but it's
17:54
not directly behind me. It's like more
17:57
off to my left.
17:58
And, you know, so. I got
18:01
my head turned and
18:03
I'm like, what is that? And we've
18:05
had a bear sighting here, you know,
18:08
it had been
18:09
longer ago than when that had happened. But it was probably
18:11
like a year after we had moved in. So,
18:13
you know, we were always kind of thinking bears, they're not that
18:15
common in Kentucky, but we do have them.
18:18
And I mean, and I heard gunshots.
18:20
I mean, it was, you know, it was opening weekends.
18:22
So
18:23
you could hear gunshots, you know, from far
18:25
away. And I'd heard probably four or so
18:27
that morning. And I was thinking,
18:30
well, this is a bear that has come
18:32
from the, you know, on the other side of the mountain
18:35
that is like scared, you know, so I'm thinking
18:38
immediately bear.
18:39
So I can't get to my rifle, but
18:42
I'm not really scared of wildlife, you know
18:44
what I mean? And I don't figure that like, it's
18:46
a mom and cubs. I just figure with
18:49
all the sound, it's a bear. And I'm like, if
18:52
I sit really quiet, and it's a really hard
18:54
kind of situation to be in, especially when you have a child
18:56
with you and a sleeping child, because
18:59
you don't really know what to do. You know, I could
19:01
have woken her up, but then she would have gotten panicked
19:03
and she would have made way too much noise. So
19:06
I'm thinking if I can just keep her asleep and
19:08
we can sit here really, really still, then
19:10
this bear will just keep it going. You know, it's
19:13
just so scared. It's just gonna keep going.
19:15
So, and that's my hope. And I had this knife on my side
19:17
and, you know, as a mother, I'm
19:19
like, if a bear tries me, you
19:22
know, it's, it might kill me, but
19:24
my baby's gonna be all right. And I mean, it's gonna
19:26
go down with me. So like
19:29
I go and
19:30
I see out of the corner of my eye, I see
19:32
like this black mass. I
19:34
mean, huge. I'm thinking to myself, this
19:37
is the biggest bear I've ever seen.
19:39
So then I start getting nervous because when I first heard the
19:41
sound,
19:42
I was still like in that disoriented state. So
19:45
it almost felt like surreal.
19:47
But then like when I see how big
19:49
it is, I'm like, oh my God, that, no, that
19:51
is a big bear. So
19:53
I'm like kinda, you know, looking
19:56
and
19:57
I see it and it's just black. And I mean,
19:59
it's just hugely. black and
20:01
it has like long
20:03
black hair and I mean it's shiny like it's
20:05
not you know it's I mean it's pretty shiny like
20:07
as you can see is the sun starting to come up and
20:10
you can see like the sun reflecting off of
20:12
it a little bit and
20:13
because where we were at that's exactly
20:15
where the sun would hit
20:17
and so I'm just like
20:19
you know looking and then I'm like
20:22
really really still because I don't want
20:24
it to see us you know I'm like if I just sit
20:26
really really still it'll just keep going
20:28
so I've still I've got my hand on my knife
20:31
but I'm just sitting there and I don't really
20:33
know what to do because I'm like you know if I wake
20:35
her up she's gonna freak out and if
20:37
we run we're you know we're had so I'm
20:40
just like well I'll just sit right here and I kind of had
20:42
adjusted her like before that to where
20:44
she was in like in a better position I could have just pushed
20:46
her off of me but I'm just sitting
20:48
there and I'm just looking and I'm
20:51
really really tense
20:52
and it like it's coming down like
20:55
really really fast and
20:57
it's got its head turned
20:59
so I'm still this whole time I'm like it's a bear
21:02
but it was like looking behind it like it
21:04
was scared of whatever was going on the
21:06
other side of the mountain so it's
21:09
got its head turned and I'm like
21:11
hey that's a bear you know what I'm just thinking
21:13
you know that's all I'm thinking is just bear bear bear
21:16
and then it turns its head it sees us
21:19
like it's turning its head to like look where it's going
21:21
and then it sees us
21:23
and I see its face and I'm like
21:25
what the hell is that
21:28
like it was not a bear
21:32
and
21:32
like I was just kind of like in disbelief
21:35
because the
21:36
face of this thing looked
21:38
it looked really ape
21:41
like except for the eyes
21:43
and the nose
21:44
and you know it had like human eyes
21:46
and
21:47
it had like a much more like protruded
21:50
nose than like what you would see on like a gorilla
21:52
or chimpanzee the nostrils were
21:54
still really big
21:56
but it was you know I mean it was definitely
21:58
out it wasn't like flat with
21:59
the face.
22:01
The mouth looked pretty similar. I mean, I think
22:03
the bottom lip was probably a little bit bigger than
22:06
like, you know, a griller, whatever, that doesn't have
22:08
any lips. But I mean, it had kind of like
22:10
that jutted out mouth a little bit. And
22:13
it just sees me. And the way I'm
22:16
sitting on this tree, it's still behind
22:18
me, but it's not, it's almost completely
22:20
flush with me. So it's probably, I don't know,
22:22
five foot
22:24
from where I'm at. Like it's not
22:26
flush with me, but I've got my head turned so I can
22:28
see it completely out of my left eye.
22:31
And I'm just looking. And it
22:33
stops, it recognizes that there's
22:35
somebody there. And then it gets pissed. It just
22:37
like acts like it's mad. And it
22:39
like kind of puffs up his chest.
22:42
And this thing had breasts. I mean, it was
22:44
not like, you know, I mean, it was
22:47
hairy, but it was definitely not like pectoral
22:49
muscles. I mean, it was very muscular, but it
22:51
was more than that. And it like kind of puffs
22:54
up and it grunts.
22:55
And then like, I moved to grab my
22:57
knife, like pull it completely out of the sheath.
23:01
And then it like, I don't know if it recognized
23:03
that I was a woman
23:04
or that I had a sleeping child in my
23:07
lap or, you know, what
23:09
it was. But its expression
23:11
immediately changed
23:13
to more like, Oh, you know,
23:15
like if you walk in on like a sleeping baby and
23:17
you know, or you walk into somebody's house when
23:20
a baby's sleeping, you're like, Hey, everybody.
23:22
And then, you know, they're like
23:24
the baby's sleeping. And you're like, Oh, when you
23:26
kind of like hunker your shoulders down and your
23:28
expression kind of like, you know, softens
23:32
and it like kind of hunkered its shoulders down
23:34
and like held out its hands like,
23:37
sorry, or, you know, like,
23:39
it's okay or whatever,
23:41
or don't mind me, just in a
23:43
very human like manner.
23:47
And then it just turns around and
23:49
it like runs three strides
23:52
and just like leaps back up
23:54
that you know, all three of those like little
23:56
things. I mean, it was gone. And I mean, by the time I did
23:59
like jumped, it was out of my
23:59
my line of vision, but it was, I mean,
24:02
it was gone. And
24:04
I was like, what
24:06
in the world was that?
24:09
You know, I sat there for a minute,
24:12
but like once it was over with, I didn't feel
24:14
scared. You know what I mean? I was scared
24:16
when it was happening, but like once
24:18
it was gone, I did not have
24:21
like a, you know, I've got to get out of here kind
24:23
of feeling. I was just like,
24:25
oh, that was close.
24:26
You know, but I felt like the danger had passed. And
24:28
so, you know, I woke my daughter up then and
24:31
I was like, let's go on home. You know,
24:33
I didn't see anything. And we walked out
24:36
and I mean, I kept my eye behind me and stuff. But
24:38
it was just a very, you know,
24:41
it's hard for me to even, you
24:43
know, talk about this because it just
24:45
is so absurd to me.
24:47
But I mean,
24:49
that's what I saw. It's
24:51
just, you know, it's odd. And I mean,
24:54
it's strange, but you know, I know what
24:56
I saw and, you know, it
24:59
was just a really surreal kind of experience.
25:03
Yeah, I can imagine, especially with
25:05
your child there, what
25:07
an encounter. So did
25:10
you go home after this? We
25:12
were closer to my dad's at that point. So
25:15
we ended up just like walking around the ridge
25:18
and just going on to my dad's. And I mean,
25:20
I was still very, very shaken up. And
25:22
like, my dad's like, what happened?
25:24
And I was like, oh, you know, I just, I saw
25:26
something. It wasn't, I
25:29
don't know what it was, probably a bear
25:31
or something. You know, and it took me, and I
25:33
finally did tell him, but
25:34
it took me like a while because, you
25:36
know, you're like, did I really see that? You
25:39
know, I mean, it really makes you question
25:41
like your own sanity because
25:43
you're like, this is something
25:45
that is, you
25:46
know, I mean, it was just
25:48
an unbelievable kind of thing. I
25:50
mean, I was so, it was just such a bad
25:53
situation in the moment to be in.
25:56
Because like, as a mother, you're always playing out
25:58
like, what if this happens, you know?
25:59
I've got my kids with me or what if this happens?
26:02
You know, and you're always like have a game plan that
26:05
um, you know, you don't have a game plan for that.
26:07
So I was kind of like frozen there and I'm like,
26:09
I'm gonna have to fight this thing with a knife
26:11
because I can't get to my gun in time.
26:13
You know what I mean? I'm just like trying to think of what
26:16
the best way to to throw my little
26:18
girl off in my lap is going to be, you know,
26:20
and like what I'm going to do and then
26:22
it just kind of
26:24
was like, oh, you know,
26:26
okay, I'm gonna back on out of here.
26:28
And it just like,
26:31
and I mean, to me, you know, and it's
26:33
my own opinion, but I mean, I think it was female
26:35
for sure. You know, it just had
26:37
that like feeling about it, that
26:39
it was like, you know, I'm just gonna,
26:42
I'm just gonna get out of here, you know,
26:45
don't be afraid. You know,
26:47
but I mean, if I think if I'd been a man, especially
26:50
I think it was very angry. I don't
26:52
know if it was because of, you know, the hunting and
26:54
all that was going on or if it was after a deer
26:57
or whatever it was, but
26:59
it just seemed very like,
27:01
okay, I want to get out of here kind
27:03
of, you know, kind of deal. But, you know,
27:05
and I was one of my husband's like, you know, coat
27:08
and all that. So I mean, I think if it had been
27:10
a man, it would have been definitely like
27:12
a probably a different scenario because I mean, it's expression
27:15
when it saw me and like picked it up
27:17
at first was like very, very angry. And
27:19
it like really stood up.
27:22
And, you know, it was probably,
27:24
I don't know, it was probably
27:26
six five, I mean, it was a substantial hot.
27:29
But
27:30
it wasn't, you know, in my experience, it wasn't
27:32
as big as like eight or nine foot or
27:35
anything like that. I mean, it was the size of
27:37
like, a really tall man.
27:40
But I mean, God, it was, it was
27:42
so broad. Like, I mean, it was just like,
27:44
I just,
27:46
it's hard to describe like how big the thing
27:48
was. Like, you know, I mean, in my side of my
27:50
eye, it almost took up the entire like side
27:53
of my vision because it was so big. Yeah,
27:56
you know, you're right. You know, even when
27:58
you think about like the, uh, animal
28:00
kingdom, you come across a mother
28:02
and her cubs and you're probably
28:05
gonna die. In the animal
28:07
kingdom, I mean a mother is
28:09
a thousand times more dangerous than anything else
28:12
and maybe it saw that. I mean it's
28:14
hard to say. It made me laugh a little
28:16
bit. You know when I was a bouncer in Vegas, we
28:19
used to always do rock-paper-scissors on
28:22
who was gonna go break up, women
28:24
fighting. Women are vicious. Women
28:27
are vicious and the reason why we did rock-paper-scissors
28:30
is because the
28:31
guy going was probably gonna come back
28:33
hurt. I'm not afraid.
28:35
There might be a case later on but even now
28:41
I'm not afraid. I've
28:44
never been afraid of animals because in my mind
28:46
I'm just like I know I mean enough.
28:48
I know I mean enough I can take that thing
28:51
out.
28:51
That's just how I've always felt and I'm like this is
28:53
probably like not a great treat to have
28:56
but I know that if
28:58
push comes to shove it's gonna be them
29:00
and not me. If
29:01
it comes to my kids, well it's all
29:03
y'all.
29:05
I don't know if that thing kind of picked that up. Like oh
29:08
she's gonna crack down today. I might get her
29:12
for a long haul but I'm gonna walk away
29:14
injured at the very least.
29:17
I
29:18
agree but the thing I mean you know
29:21
but she and I say she but I mean
29:23
I think if it had been a man like
29:25
it I mean she stood up
29:27
and like
29:29
it was just like just huge
29:32
and then I was like oh Lord you know
29:35
here I go. I mean
29:36
I was scared then you know but
29:39
I and it just like as soon as it stood
29:41
up it was just like that realization of like
29:43
no you know this is a woman with a child
29:46
and it just like it just completely
29:48
like kind of didn't hunker down but you know it
29:50
kind of dropped its shoulders like tucked
29:53
its head down a little bit and was like
29:55
okay and like put its hands out I mean
29:57
it had a huge hands like I
29:59
mean
30:00
like
30:01
people hands said they were huge
30:03
and they were covered in like black hair, but
30:06
like it had five fingers and
30:07
Like you know held out its hand like
30:10
okay I want to back away and it
30:12
took backward steps like it took like
30:14
three backward steps and then
30:16
it turned and was gone And I was
30:18
like,
30:19
okay You know when
30:21
they was just very it was just
30:23
it was a lot, you know, so
30:26
Yeah, it's a lot to take in it's a
30:28
lot to Process,
30:30
you know what in the world is this thing?
30:33
When you were looking at it, what
30:36
details stood out to you the most?
30:40
It to me it looked a lot more a plot
30:42
than human-like, I mean it had like human
30:44
like eyes more so
30:47
You know and I mean we went we we
30:49
go to the zoo all the time So I'm gonna like reference
30:51
gorillas a lot because you know, we've seen
30:53
them multiple times like within the last couple years But
30:56
I mean even gorillas like at the zoo to
30:59
me are very human-like. I mean they make very
31:02
You know very human like
31:04
expressions in a lot of cases and
31:06
that this thing was beyond that but it looked
31:09
more I
31:10
mean it had like a more prominent nose
31:12
and You know its eyes like
31:14
I said, we're more human-like but it
31:16
had like that and you know That that
31:18
bone across the brow that jetted
31:21
out and I had like a more of a cone shaped head and
31:25
But it's arm its body was longer
31:27
than like a gorilla and you know It
31:29
had its body was similar,
31:31
but it was like more it was longer and
31:34
its arms were like very very long
31:37
You know on its face where
31:39
there wasn't hair and there was hair almost everywhere
31:41
except for like right around the eyes Right
31:44
around the nose and like the mouth and the
31:46
mouth
31:46
Kind of came out and like that circular
31:49
like muzzle shape almost like a you know,
31:51
like a gorilla or a chimpanzee
31:54
But it was that was all
31:56
like a gray color,
31:58
you know, like I said, I only saw it
31:59
out of my left eye, but I mean, I got a very
32:02
good look out of my left eye.
32:04
And, but it just, you know, even
32:06
whenever it like kind of stopped, it kind of like jutted
32:08
out its lips, almost like, ooh, ooh,
32:11
you know, like that, you know, when you can see
32:13
like a gorilla or a chimp, you know, making that,
32:15
that
32:16
round
32:17
movement with their mouth, and
32:19
you know, that's what it looked like. But it was much
32:22
more human acting than,
32:23
you know,
32:25
than the way that I've seen like gorillas
32:28
or chimps or anything, you know, in the
32:30
past. And, you
32:31
know, it had really
32:33
black hair and it was shiny hair.
32:35
I mean, it wasn't like, it didn't look, you
32:38
know, it didn't look unkempt. It looked like
32:40
somebody had just brushed the thing out. I mean,
32:43
it was shiny and very, I
32:45
mean, black, black, black hair. I
32:47
didn't see its feet, but
32:50
I saw to like the very bottom of its belly,
32:52
you know, when it was all covered in hair, but it was
32:54
thinner, like at the chest. And
32:56
so you could see something like that gray skin
32:58
kind of, you know, coming through.
33:01
But the eyes, I mean, the eyes were
33:03
like probably, they were a dark color, but
33:05
they weren't brown. They were probably like a grayish
33:07
color.
33:08
And it was just, it
33:10
was just very, you know, I mean, very
33:13
ape looking with, you know, some
33:15
human features,
33:17
but it just acted so
33:19
human. You know, I mean, even if
33:22
that's what it was, or, you know, if it was just somebody
33:25
behind, you know, that tree that time
33:27
kind of bent down, like after encountering
33:29
this thing, I wouldn't have been surprised if it would have been
33:31
one of those because I thought, well, that's like a person,
33:34
you know, hunching down behind something.
33:36
And, you know, so now I'm just like questioning everything
33:39
that we've, you know, we've heard
33:41
on the property. So, yeah,
33:43
I mean, it was, it was very human
33:45
like in its mannerisms, but it looked
33:48
more, looked
33:50
more ape-like, I guess.
33:53
Yeah, when eyewitnesses come forward, it's
33:56
usually one of three things. They'll say
33:58
it looked like an ape or it looked like an ape.
33:59
like a monkey or it
34:02
looked like it was very human in
34:04
the face. And
34:05
I wanted to ask you, how far away
34:08
is this creature? And do you think it's because
34:10
you had your baby with you is why it
34:13
backed off?
34:15
It was,
34:17
I mean, it was close. But like
34:19
I said, it was coming from behind me, but it wasn't
34:21
directly behind me. It was probably, I don't
34:24
know, maybe 100 foot or so, maybe
34:27
less than that from me.
34:28
And it had stopped almost completely flush
34:31
with me. So probably five foot back. So I had my
34:33
head turned and I could see. And it was, I
34:35
mean, it was still so huge.
34:37
And
34:38
it like, you know, it saw, and I think that, I
34:41
think it saw,
34:42
you know, somebody sitting there, you know, because
34:45
where it came down, that was the side that the gun
34:47
was on. So, you know, yeah,
34:49
I think it saw a gun there. I think it saw,
34:52
you know, somebody in camo or whatever.
34:55
And, you know, it was my husband's coat, you know what
34:57
I mean? I'm sure that men smell different
34:59
than women.
35:00
And I think it was just like annoyed that it
35:02
saw, you know, somebody hunting or somebody
35:04
there.
35:05
And it just might be too, that is
35:07
a general rule. You know, we say women
35:10
are, and I mean, I can attest to this.
35:12
Like I'm, if it comes down to
35:14
it, like, you know, you're probably not going
35:16
to win a fight with a woman, you know, she's really
35:19
mad, but I don't feel like women are
35:21
as quick to try to like push their weight
35:23
around. You know, I think it takes a little
35:25
while before you're like really angry or
35:27
you're really like defensive.
35:29
So I think that when things encounter
35:31
men,
35:32
it automatically assumes that this is
35:34
another like territorial male and
35:37
it's going to like, fight me. And,
35:39
you know, when I think that she, she saw that
35:42
and she was like, oh, you know, here I go. The same
35:44
foot shoot at me. And she was like, you know,
35:47
buffing up to it, you know, like puff that
35:49
chest out, like come at me.
35:52
And
35:52
then she was like, you know, when I went to get
35:54
that knife, because I'm like, here I go.
35:57
She, I think she either saw that I was a woman.
35:59
because when I turned, you know, my hair was out
36:02
of like the hood, or she saw my
36:04
daughter laying in my lap. And
36:06
I think it was because she saw my daughter.
36:08
And, you know, it was just like, oh,
36:11
okay,
36:11
you know, I was wrong.
36:13
I'm gonna, I'm gonna get now I'm out of here
36:16
and don't mind me kind of thing.
36:18
I mean, it was just very like non aggressive,
36:20
like at all. It was just almost like,
36:23
it was just so human like, because I can
36:25
just see my brother like coming in my house,
36:28
you know, when the baby's asleep, like,
36:30
being loud and doing the exact same movement
36:33
that this thing did. But I mean, it just like, turned
36:35
around and just bounded,
36:37
like, up this mountain. I mean, and
36:40
was gone, like, there's no a bear wouldn't
36:42
have been able to get back up that cliff.
36:44
I mean, nothing, I don't know anything that
36:47
would be able to get up that cliff. I mean, it's like,
36:50
you know, it's like 50 60 foot just
36:52
straight up.
36:53
And I mean, it was just
36:55
it was incredible.
36:57
But I didn't feel you know, I didn't feel scared.
36:59
Like once I mean, the adrenaline, you know, was so, so
37:01
high. And anytime you like come off of an adrenaline rush,
37:03
you know, like you get sick, and you're like, Oh, Lord.
37:06
But,
37:07
you know, I felt like that way coming over me,
37:09
but I wasn't scared to be in the woods. It
37:13
might just be that, you know, like with other
37:15
things, you know, males are more
37:17
territorial, more aggressive. And
37:20
you know, and it might be that
37:21
the females are too, if they're
37:23
young around, but, you know,
37:25
in my in my experience, you know, that time
37:28
it was not, that wasn't the case. It
37:30
was very like, you know,
37:32
from one mother to another mother, I'm
37:34
getting out of here, I don't want to cause any trouble,
37:37
you know, because I think that they can sense that too. Like
37:39
I can think I think that they can sense like, I'm not
37:41
I'm not backing down, you know, this one's not gonna
37:44
back down, or this one's not going to run or,
37:46
you know, whatever.
37:49
You know, Jane, many years ago, my
37:52
opinion on Sasquatch was
37:54
kill them all like God figured out. And
37:57
I'll tell you the moment that kind of changed my
37:59
opinion. I was at Jonathan
38:02
Brown's property and I was in the,
38:04
he had this audio tent. I'll give you the very
38:06
short version of what happened, but, um,
38:09
and he has this audio tent set up. Well
38:12
on YouTube you can play this three
38:14
hour long baby crying. It'll
38:17
drive you completely insane. I mean you have three
38:19
kids, you know what I'm talking about. And
38:21
I had a very similar experience. The
38:24
same came down this hillside and
38:26
it sounded like a semi truck coming
38:28
right for that tent. And I was
38:31
the only one in the tent and I heard
38:33
it coming in. My first thought was, wow, I'm
38:35
about, I'm about to be mowed down. I
38:37
mean, I could hear this thing just coming.
38:40
And it stopped on the edge of the tree line
38:42
and started cooing like
38:44
a mother would cooter a child. And
38:47
I remember sitting there thinking like, maybe
38:50
I'm wrong, you know, on this whole
38:52
thing. Maybe they aren't, you know,
38:55
all bloodthirsty monsters,
38:57
you know. And this thing sounded like
38:59
a female. I mean, it had a very female
39:02
tone to it.
39:03
And it was like a mother cooing to her child
39:06
and it really, really threw me off.
39:09
And you gave a great illustration with,
39:11
um, you know, you go into someone's home and
39:13
you're loud and they're like, Hey, the baby's sleeping.
39:16
And I've done that before. You know, Oh,
39:19
sorry about that. And I can almost
39:21
see myself
39:22
doing the same gestures you were describing
39:24
this creature doing very human
39:26
like behavior in my opinion anyway.
39:29
But what do you make of that behavior?
39:31
I mean, that's a little more than an animal.
39:34
You know, I
39:36
mean,
39:37
I've always been in the woods and, you
39:39
know, when we hunt, like, I've not
39:41
like a big, you know, I'll go hunting, but
39:44
like, it's mainly just to see stuff. You know,
39:46
I mean, it's not like I have
39:48
a problem with like, you know, shooting
39:50
anything because, but to me, it's more like,
39:53
if what I'm going to shoot, it's going to be, you
39:55
know, an issue on my property.
39:57
You know, if I have something that's coming in causing a
39:59
if I have a couch or whatever.
40:02
And as a general rule, you know, I
40:04
mean, we'll go hunting occasionally. But
40:06
I like, you know, I've fished my whole life like,
40:08
you know, and, and we're always in the woods
40:11
and, you know, I train horses. And
40:13
so we trail ride a lot, you know, and I'm always
40:15
and usually I'm by myself. And you
40:18
see a lot on horseback in
40:20
the woods and you would see even just like
40:22
on the ground. And because I think
40:24
that
40:25
the smell of the horse probably like covers
40:28
up your scent. So like you see a whole
40:30
lot more wildlife than
40:32
what you would see, you know,
40:34
just just on foot. And I mean, especially,
40:36
you know, on like a side by side or a four wheeler or whatever.
40:38
And I've just never,
40:41
you know, the general
40:44
consensus is that, you know, animals
40:46
are scared of people. All
40:48
animals are scared of people. You know, I've never encountered
40:51
an animal that has,
40:54
you know, has, has ever acted
40:56
like even remotely. You
40:58
know, I love animals, but like, you know,
41:00
I get so annoyed when people put like
41:02
human emotions on animals because they're
41:04
animals, you know, you're like, you'll see a
41:06
video with somebody and they're like, look, it's burying
41:09
its dead puppy. I'm like, it's burying
41:11
its puppy to eat later. Like, you
41:13
know, I mean, the animals are animals
41:16
and, you know, and I love
41:18
them, but
41:19
they don't have human emotion. You
41:22
know, they care about things, I think, like they're
41:24
young and stuff, but
41:26
they don't, you know, your dog doesn't love
41:28
you because, you know, it
41:30
thinks you're a great person. It loves
41:33
you because you feed it every day, you know, when you're
41:35
you're gentle to it, it doesn't love the same
41:37
way that we love. And that doesn't mean that, you
41:40
know, I'm not taking away from how
41:42
important animals are, how much I
41:44
love them, but they don't love us
41:46
back the same way, if that makes sense.
41:50
But
41:50
this thing, like,
41:51
it had human emotion. I mean,
41:54
it had human,
41:55
like mannerisms and
41:57
it didn't move necessarily.
42:00
a human whenever it was coming down the hill. I
42:02
mean it was moving very very like largely
42:05
and like you know like like a
42:07
run but it was like rolling its shoulders
42:09
and that's why I originally had thought like a bigger
42:12
because it was rolling its shoulder so
42:14
much. I mean it had such a huge front
42:16
end on it that it was like rolling
42:19
and you could see like the muscle and stuff but its head
42:21
was turned around so I couldn't see its head
42:23
and then like it turned
42:25
around and stood up you know like
42:28
whenever it was like looking forward and then I realized
42:30
like it wasn't running
42:32
on four legs. It was
42:34
just like kind of like pushing itself along
42:36
you know with its front legs or maybe even moving
42:39
trees out of the way. I don't know but it was not like
42:41
weight bearing on all four legs
42:43
and you know and just the just
42:45
the expression on its face and like I said
42:48
it had some human like characteristics but
42:50
to me it looked more animal but it's I
42:53
mean its mannerisms were just so human
42:55
to me. You know and it displayed
42:57
a lot more like I don't know I'm not
43:00
going to say compassion or anything
43:03
like that but I mean I'm going to say it for the
43:05
sake of this podcast is you know
43:07
it did it displayed more
43:09
compassion than you know some people
43:11
I've seen you know it was just like you
43:13
know some people walk into and they just don't care
43:15
they're just like ah you got a kid there but
43:17
it was almost like it didn't want to be you know
43:19
it didn't want to wake the baby up it didn't want to wake the
43:22
kid up it you didn't want me to be afraid because
43:24
it could have just as easily
43:26
you know went around like nope this is my
43:28
wood you know and like made a big
43:31
show and still not hurt me but it
43:33
could have done more than just been like oh no
43:36
I'm running back up but it's like it wanted to make
43:38
a point to show me
43:40
like I'm not I'm not a threat like
43:42
I'm not a threat you don't have to be worried about
43:44
your kid you know it was just very it
43:47
was it was very human-like
43:51
yeah I think you and I are on the same page Jane
43:54
I mean your normal predator
43:56
is either gonna run from you or
43:58
it's gonna fight
43:59
The way this thing reacted, I mean,
44:02
it didn't sound like either.
44:04
I ask everyone who comes on the show, Jane,
44:07
what do you think Sasquatch is? And especially
44:10
after this experience, I'm very curious.
44:12
What do you think that these creatures are?
44:15
You know, it's kind of, it's a hard question, you
44:17
know, for anybody, but
44:19
I do believe that they are, you
44:22
know, I do believe that they are a biological creature.
44:25
I don't necessarily know that they live here all
44:27
the time. You know, I mean, I felt very, very
44:30
like I felt a really
44:31
weird feeling before I saw it. You
44:34
know, when I heard that baby crying and
44:36
I still don't know what that was, you know, I mean,
44:39
I texted my husband, like, as we were
44:41
leaving the woods and I was like, Hey,
44:43
you know, is the baby okay? And he was like,
44:45
yeah, she's still asleep. Like she had not woken
44:47
up that morning. So, you
44:49
know, I
44:50
don't, I don't know what that was, but I
44:53
just had this feeling of just like,
44:55
almost like a daze, like it just felt
44:58
very like, I
44:59
don't know, almost like
45:01
it wasn't real. Like, you know, everything
45:03
around me, I, you know, I mean, it
45:05
was just very odd. I mean, and it just,
45:08
you know, it went away,
45:10
but
45:11
you know, I don't think I, and this
45:13
is just my opinion, but I don't think that something
45:15
that big
45:16
could live here all the time without
45:20
there being like physical, physical
45:22
evidence of it. I just don't think that
45:24
that's the case. I mean, you
45:26
know, I know that the world is a big place, but there,
45:28
there's people all the time that are in the woods, you know,
45:31
I mean, there's people all the time with cell phones and, you
45:33
know, and video cameras and, you
45:35
know, all this stuff.
45:37
Um, you know, my only explanation
45:39
for it is because I saw it and it wasn't,
45:42
it wasn't a ghost, it wasn't
45:44
an apparition. Um, you
45:46
know, it was flesh and blood and
45:48
I went back there the next day without
45:50
my daughter. And I mean, there was huge marks,
45:52
you know, that went up the side of that mountain. I mean, I
45:55
didn't make that up. I didn't just imagine
45:57
that,
45:58
you know, it, it had went up there.
45:59
And you know, that's a real creature
46:02
that does that. I mean, real creatures leave, you
46:04
know, trace evidence behind in the form
46:06
of, you know, scuffing up the ground when they're
46:09
running.
46:09
But I just, I think that they,
46:12
you know, whether it be like
46:14
portals or, you know, other
46:17
places in time or, you know,
46:19
who am I to, you know, know what
46:21
it is. But I don't think that they are
46:23
here
46:24
all the time. Because
46:26
I think that they have the ability to just, you
46:28
know, poof and go back wherever they need to go
46:30
or to, you know, travel, you know, through
46:34
space in order to like come back out at another
46:36
place. I don't know. But, you
46:38
know, I think that there's another,
46:41
there's another thing to it. I don't think it's just
46:44
that, you know, they're a long lost species
46:46
of,
46:47
you know,
46:48
human animal cross or whatever.
46:50
And that they we've just not been able to track
46:53
them or keep track of them. I don't think
46:55
that's the case.
46:57
And I think that there's another element
46:59
to that that, you know, we just don't know.
47:03
Yeah, I think that's a fair answer, Jane. I
47:05
agree with you. I think they're very physical and,
47:08
but there's something weird going on here.
47:11
There's something very strange, you
47:13
know, even you describing that feeling
47:15
right before it walking up or the
47:17
baby crying, you know, was it
47:19
this saying doing that baby crying sound?
47:23
It's hard to say. And I know, you know,
47:25
prior to this, you weren't really into Bigfoot
47:28
and now you're on this property. I mean, it's
47:30
such an amazing account, especially
47:33
with the behavior of this one
47:35
that you ran into. I'd
47:38
like to know if anything else happens on this property
47:40
because it's been a pretty recent
47:42
encounter. I mean, this sighting was
47:45
a year ago and I'd be
47:47
very curious to know if anything else
47:49
happens.
47:51
No,
47:51
I definitely will. There's been some I mean, there's been
47:53
like quite a few odd things
47:56
that have happened. And I mean, it's just like, you
47:58
know, it's progressive. Not
48:00
that it's gotten worse, but like, you
48:03
know, it's not at all like slowed down.
48:05
So yeah, I would be happy to keep
48:07
you in the loop.
48:10
Yeah, please do. Please keep me up
48:12
to date. I would love to know if anything
48:15
else happens, but again,
48:18
it's probably one of the more amazing
48:20
accounts with regard to behavior that
48:22
I've heard. There's no doubt in my mind
48:25
they're running around on that property over there. But
48:28
I really appreciate you taking the time to come
48:30
on. I enjoyed chatting with you,
48:32
Jane.
48:33
Well, I appreciate it. Thank you for having
48:35
me. And
48:37
that's it for tonight. Everyone remember, if you've had
48:39
an encounter, shoot me an email. My
48:42
email address is Wes at Sasquatch
48:44
Chronicles.com. And
48:46
if you get a chance to check out Sasquatch Chronicles.com,
48:50
you can become a member and get additional
48:53
shows. Until next time, everyone.
50:00
You have
50:02
to obey my why,
50:04
why can't you obey? You
50:31
are my God,
50:34
you are
50:37
my God, you are my God. You
51:00
are my God, you are my God. You
51:31
have to obey
51:33
my why, why can't you
51:36
obey? You
51:44
are my God, you are my
51:46
God. combinations
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