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2:09

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2:11

experience, the two relatives that

2:13

were with me on the riverbank

2:19

with the out-hooting and

2:21

we abandoned camp and they found some of

2:23

the fire logs out in the river. That

2:26

same year, less than a month later, from

2:29

that experience, we'll call them Penelope

2:32

and Jasmine. That's not their

2:34

real names but close enough. Penelope

2:37

and Jasmine were going gold prospecting

2:39

by Harris Creek which is north

2:41

of Kaliganick. It's just above where

2:44

the cut off for the Neocup River where

2:46

they come together there. They

2:48

take off, they get up there and there's this

2:50

big gravel bar right there in the middle of

2:52

the river. It's got this huge tree

2:54

stump. And it's antiquated.

2:57

I don't know how long that tree stump has

2:59

been stuck on that particular gravel bar but it

3:01

breaks the channel up into two and it goes

3:03

right around the gravel bar and it's a really

3:05

deep channel. If you're facing north,

3:08

deep channel, high bank to

3:10

your left, tree's stuck in front

3:12

of you on this gravel bar, lower bank to your

3:14

right with a lot of trees that wrap back around

3:17

the bend. A little further down

3:19

on the left is the mouth of

3:21

the Neocup River and a spit that

3:23

a little bit of a point

3:26

from where it diverges or converges

3:28

I should say. They get there

3:30

and they get set up and as they're

3:32

getting set up, they heard weird noises but

3:35

they put nothing to it. Just they

3:37

were in the deep woods is probably

3:39

just some loose growing or something they

3:41

just never came across. They

3:43

do that thing, they set up the tent and

3:45

they set it just behind that big tree stump

3:48

to block the breeze that comes down the river. They're

3:51

set up and they're comfortable. They got a limited amount

3:53

of firewood but they only planned on camping on the

3:55

gravel bar just that one night and they were going

3:57

to continue up to Harris Creek. they're

4:00

doing their thing, Jasmine's tired, goes

4:02

to sleep, Penelope stays up,

4:05

10 in the fire, sipping some cold

4:07

ones enjoying the beautiful scenery. And

4:09

in that time of year, it's roughly

4:12

a 12-12 light cycle, 12 hours of

4:14

darkness, 12 hours of light. It hasn't

4:16

gone into the wee hours of winter

4:18

where we get three, four hours of

4:20

actual sun on the horizon kind of

4:22

light. He's doing his thing, little

4:25

fires popping and crackling away and it

4:28

keeps getting this eerie feeling like he's just

4:30

something like he's being watched. Grabs

4:32

his spotlight, firearms still in

4:34

his case inside the tent, they were on

4:37

a sandbar they felt safe from any intrusions

4:39

they felt it would be alright. So

4:41

he just grabs the spotlight and

4:43

it goes around the whole little gravel bar there just

4:46

beaming off into the trees trying to figure out why

4:48

he's getting this eerie feeling. He gets

4:50

to the front side of the stump facing north towards

4:52

Harris Creek in terms of beam on. He

4:55

sees five sets of eye shine, three

4:57

smaller ones, two taller ones. The three

4:59

smaller eye shines were bright vivid white

5:02

and the two taller ones were a amber

5:04

red. And immediately he's, what the hell

5:07

is that? And it was more

5:09

curiosity for Penelope because Penelope is checking

5:11

his glasses and he's just trying

5:13

to put together what he's seeing.

5:15

It seems so out of place to have

5:18

that kind of thing happening and so he chalked

5:20

it up initially to just somewhere that it must

5:22

be someone hung some reflectors of some kind up

5:24

there and it's just in a weird pattern

5:27

I'll be able to make it out tomorrow. I liked

5:29

it at that because it didn't move, none of that

5:31

stuff. And he still has this

5:33

eerie feeling what he was able to compartmentalize

5:35

eye shine into something to worry about but

5:37

what's funny is subconsciously he knew something was

5:39

off. I only laughed because Penelope

5:42

gave me so much crap before this experience for

5:44

him. I'll leave it along and just tease him

5:46

what the name changed. Penelope starts

5:48

beaming again, just keeps feeling like he's

5:50

being watched. Beams again

5:53

and he's circling back the other direction

5:55

this time and when he swings the light

5:57

over to where the new cut meets the

5:59

new... Jack River there at that little point.

6:02

He thought he saw what looked like a

6:04

big guy in a fur jacket jumped

6:07

into the trees, but he heard nothing. This

6:09

thing, that's weird. He's still

6:11

in a little bit of a self-denial.

6:13

It's like things aren't

6:15

making sense, but internally, his

6:17

mind is danger. So he

6:20

takes the gun out. And he

6:23

said he felt like he was on autopilot.

6:25

Everything was surreal. It sounded like a weird

6:27

noise happening, but he couldn't really make it

6:29

out like a whining of

6:31

a saw way off in the distance, but

6:33

that's the best thing he could equate it

6:35

to. He said it probably wasn't a saw.

6:38

So he gets his rifle out, has it

6:40

loaded, has it ready, stokes the fire

6:42

a little bit and continues drinking some cold beers.

6:45

Now, he continues spotlighting, didn't

6:47

see anything else. Other eye

6:49

shine wasn't there. And so

6:51

he calms down and he sits and he's

6:53

just trying to piece together what he saw

6:56

and if he actually saw it. Because let's

6:58

be honest, if we were out there and

7:00

we saw five sets of eye showing, wouldn't

7:02

your first response be, what the hell am

7:04

I looking at? And did I

7:07

really see that? He's going over everything

7:09

in his mind. And he said, as

7:11

he's doing that, he's facing north towards

7:13

Harris Creek with the fire

7:16

right in front of them, a little offset spotlight

7:18

next to him, the rifle ending up on his

7:20

leg, because he was sitting on a tree

7:22

stump, a small round.

7:25

And out of the corner of his left

7:27

eye, he sees this big thing moving on

7:29

the riverbank adjacent to a parallel and then

7:32

moving up towards Harris Creek. And he throws

7:34

up, he grabs the spotlight out of

7:36

the corner of his eye and he beams and this

7:38

thing gets beam throwing away from him. So he didn't

7:41

see its face. But he

7:43

said it was tall man like long

7:45

arms. It wasn't pitch black,

7:47

but it was very dark in color. And

7:50

it was obviously not a man. It

7:52

was way, way too big to be

7:54

some man and way too

7:56

big to be a suit to be moving that fluidly.

7:58

Still, he wasn't... reactionary. It was more

8:01

what the hell you do with that. So it

8:03

just moves on into the darkness. He stopped beaming

8:05

it just ahead in the sand type of thing.

8:08

He goes, no, this ain't right. So he wakes

8:10

up Jasmine. Jasmine's not happy.

8:12

His feathers were ruffled

8:15

to be interrupted by foolishness until

8:18

he came outside. Finally came

8:20

out after arguing back and forth and

8:22

Penelope was serious hey, get your

8:24

butt out here. Come see this

8:26

stuff for yourself. I need a witness basically. And

8:29

that's what it boils down to because he felt if

8:31

he didn't get Jasmine to come see this stuff going

8:34

on with him, no one would believe him.

8:36

And hey, fair enough. That's how it goes. So

8:40

finally coaxes Jasmine out of the tent and

8:42

demands Jasmine bring his rifle. So Jasmine, calling

8:44

out with his rifle and saying man, there

8:46

better be a bear ready to charge us

8:49

for getting me out of this damn tent.

8:51

Tired because they've been on the river a

8:53

couple days. It takes a while to get

8:55

way up there like that. So

8:58

they're going back and forth and he's explaining

9:00

what he saw and Jasmine is dismissing it

9:02

and then Penelope's, I know Rick

9:04

I saw dude. Listen what I'm telling you and

9:06

the Eagles listen to that and Jasmine

9:09

catches on with that. I mean buzzing sound

9:11

off in the distance and

9:13

those are both literally listening to the

9:15

air not really looking in any particular

9:17

direction from the direction

9:19

of Harris Creek just north of

9:21

them. They hear the loudest blood

9:23

curdling scream that they've ever heard and it

9:26

snapped them out of their little

9:29

trance argument stuff. Survival

9:31

mode instantly kicks in. He

9:33

said once Jasmine came out,

9:35

he was standing and holding his rifle

9:38

and somehow his rifle ended

9:40

up right near the edge

9:42

of the water because when they were

9:44

startled, stuff flung when they

9:46

were jolted with that scream. That's how

9:49

loud it was. That's how forceful this

9:51

scream was. He immediately grabs

9:53

his rifle again. He's checking it and they get

9:55

the spotlight and they've been in the direction that

9:58

they heard the scream come from. They want to know what

10:00

the hell is in it. So they beam

10:03

and when they beam, they see three

10:05

sets of eye shine. Two

10:07

bigger red eye shines, one smaller white

10:09

set eye shine and they kill

10:12

the light real quick because once they, this time when

10:14

they beamed it, there was movement. They

10:16

killed it. We don't want to attract that, whatever the

10:18

hell it is because they couldn't make it out. They could just make

10:20

out the eye shine at that distance. They

10:22

sit down the spotlight and they're talking amongst each

10:25

other. Maybe we should drip down river a little

10:27

ways, anchor out what we did the year before

10:29

with the out hooting start earlier that year with

10:31

the out hooting. And

10:34

they're discussing that because we didn't see anything

10:36

at that point and this time they

10:38

actually see these things and they're not necessarily

10:40

trying to hide. They did a

10:42

little movement but they both recognized

10:45

it's not right. So they start

10:48

talking, reliving what happened a few weeks before

10:50

with me in the skiff when we had

10:52

to ditch that that camping spot with the

10:54

big bonfire. And as they're

10:56

discussing reliving that moment, they

10:58

hear another scream come in the same direction but it's

11:00

a little closer. So immediately, they

11:03

snap out of their debate. So

11:05

they beam it. They beam up

11:07

towards Harris Creek again and now

11:09

there's the three, they saw the two

11:11

bigger red eye shines, the smaller set

11:13

of white eye shine. They saw

11:15

two more red eye shines even taller

11:18

than the ones and

11:20

three or four other white eye shines.

11:22

They started panicking because of the noise

11:24

and eye shine. So there's something living

11:27

and there's something very loud over

11:29

there. They already know it's a hairy man but

11:32

they're trying to figure out how

11:34

this is happening. They decide they're going

11:36

to roll with punches. Nothing's

11:38

happened. We'll stay here on this

11:40

gravel bar. Now it's only

11:43

20 feet to the taller riverbank, probably

11:46

30 on this side to

11:48

the other side of the riverbank. Deep

11:50

channel between that and the high bank to their

11:52

left and that goes towards the north towards Harris

11:54

Creek side of it. They got their

11:57

game plan. They're going to forget about

11:59

it. don't want nothing to do with it,

12:01

they're gonna forget about it, nothing's happened,

12:03

they're safe and as they're discussing how

12:05

they're safe, they get this

12:08

cadence of something dropping

12:10

in the water, something like little pebbles

12:12

getting dropped in the water and it's

12:14

happening at such a rate that

12:16

they can't ignore it. At first,

12:19

they figured it was a little fish jump or something. You've ever

12:21

been on lake and a little fish, it's

12:23

similar to that, the sound. That starts happening

12:25

and then the cadence speeds up a little

12:27

bit and it's coming from behind them and

12:29

from just off in front of them and

12:31

they're thrown off by it. It's like

12:33

all of a sudden there's a new thing making noise. They

12:36

decide we can't ignore this. It's

12:39

still kept the fire. Jasmine wasn't

12:41

feeling good, genuinely and

12:43

said, hey, I'm gonna have my fire, I'm ready but I

12:46

need to lay down. So if anything

12:48

starts coming in on us, let me know for

12:50

sure and I will jump up and join you.

12:53

And Pinocchio wasn't happy with that, hey, his look

12:55

wasn't feeling good. See I go lay down. And

12:58

just as they finished that little conversation

13:00

and Jasmine's crawling into the tent, a

13:03

huge splash hits the channel between them

13:05

and the high bank to

13:07

their left. Colluge and there's a broken top

13:10

half of a birch tree, leaves

13:12

still on it. They didn't hear this thing break

13:14

and nothing. All of a sudden,

13:16

this is a colluge and Pinocchio was just

13:18

frozen watching this thing start to sink into

13:20

the river and then get drugged down by

13:22

the current. It was

13:25

just so random what a tree in

13:27

the channel. So he's trying to figure out what he just

13:29

saw. He knew it was a tree, he knew it was

13:31

a birch tree but he was trying to process

13:34

the mechanics of what just happened, why is this

13:36

happening? And immediately, the fear level

13:38

goes right back up to where he

13:41

can't not pay attention. He

13:43

resumes posted by the fire and

13:45

he's got his firearm. He's telling

13:47

Jasmine who's communicating from the tent, hey, I'm

13:50

fine, I'm just laying here, I'm ready to

13:52

move. Call her Finimi. He

13:54

goes, dude, something threw a tree in

13:57

the river next to us, something's not right. So

13:59

they talked. back and forth and he realizes that

14:02

Jasmine is genuinely not feeling good. So

14:04

he eases up on how aggressive he's

14:06

being about help me. He realizes he's

14:08

there and he'll help. So

14:11

as they're having this little discussion, corner

14:13

of his eye, he sees movement again. This

14:16

thing is pacing back and forth and not

14:19

quite getting parallel with them on the river

14:21

bank but just above them pacing

14:23

back and forth and after

14:25

it stopped pacing back and forth, it

14:27

turned and looked directly at him and

14:29

started doing this swaying thing as it

14:31

lowered and squatted itself down bringing his

14:33

elbows onto its knees and then doing

14:35

this sway thing or going back up

14:37

to standing up. He

14:39

said it was every bit of at least 12 foot tall, at

14:42

least. That was a rough

14:44

guesstimate but he said it was very big,

14:47

obviously very hulking like real

14:49

thick. So this thing squats

14:52

down, stands back up doing the same thing,

14:55

took a half step towards further down the

14:57

river bank coming towards them, not directly because

14:59

it dropped in the water but coming

15:01

down the river bank and does this little half

15:03

step, does the same thing staring right

15:05

at him. Squats all the way down, elbows

15:08

on the knees kind of thing and does the

15:10

same thing and stands back up and

15:13

that little half step does it again.

15:15

This whole time, he's just mesmerizing, what the

15:17

hell am I watching? Because

15:19

this thing is doing this when it would get

15:22

to full height, he noticed it, its eyes would

15:24

take off of him and look behind him and

15:26

then right back to him like it was really

15:28

fast but he noticed it because it was every

15:30

time it stood up. He was

15:32

like, what the hell? And he's trying

15:34

to tell Jasmine what's happening

15:36

but he's stuttering because he's awestruck

15:38

by what's happening but he

15:40

knows it's looking at something behind him. He doesn't

15:43

like that thought. So he grabs the beam, he

15:45

gets Jasmine to come out, Jasmine starts watching this

15:47

thing do it, he's still on his hands and

15:50

knees like a dog looking out the tent door

15:52

to his right now up at the

15:54

river bank at this thing doing this. Now

15:56

Grant you, there's no beam on it,

15:58

it's simple fire light. the ambient light

16:00

at that time of night. The woods still

16:02

seem pitch black but they could see this

16:04

thing doing this thing and they could see

16:06

its eyes because of the firelight. When it

16:08

would look at them, it gave off a

16:10

certain luminescence. Not its oral high beams, it

16:12

just a weird type of eye shine was

16:15

coming off of it to where it was

16:17

easy to see it was two live eyes.

16:19

It wasn't like a direct eye shine, just trying

16:22

to understand what he's getting at. So anyway, Jasmine's

16:25

Washington scene, Penelope grabs the spotlight, spotlights

16:27

it, it doesn't clench, it keeps doing

16:29

its thing. It stopped hopping or doing

16:31

this little half-step thing and doing it.

16:33

It was just standing in one place

16:35

and stand up, do the same

16:38

thing down and just kept doing that

16:40

repetitively at its own pace, its own

16:42

cadence. And so he turns around

16:44

and beams directly behind where he's noticed the

16:46

thing keeps looking once it stands up all

16:48

the way. He sees two sets

16:50

of eyeshine downriver on the opposite bank

16:53

looking back at him. So now concern

16:55

goes way up. Now what the hell do we do?

16:58

He turns around because

17:00

Jasmine's slapping his leg

17:02

because Jasmine's still on all fours looking over

17:04

to his right up at this thing

17:06

doing this stuff. And he starts slapping

17:09

Penelope's leg to get his attention because he

17:11

couldn't speak. This thing had

17:13

come further down parallel with them just

17:15

directly across the 20-foot distance or so

17:17

a little higher than them and

17:20

was just so massive standing there and

17:22

it started making this weird noise showing

17:25

its teeth and then started rocking back

17:27

and forth with that same noise down

17:30

to its knees and then back up. And

17:32

they were like, this thing is getting worked

17:34

up, it's challenging us. So immediate

17:36

concern, a very immediate

17:39

concern. They decide they're going to

17:41

take their firearms, we're going to circle

17:43

around to the backside of

17:45

that tree step and keep an eye in that direction

17:47

in case it starts throwing stuff which

17:49

is a genuine concern. They did

17:52

that directly as a result of what

17:54

happened to me the year before when that one shot

17:56

the rock at me. They immediately got

17:58

behind some kind of real instead of a

18:01

simple nylon tent. So they didn't

18:03

know its intention and how could you?

18:05

This thing's making this weird noise standing up,

18:07

squatting down, you got two sets of eyeshine

18:09

behind you, you're sitting here freaked out because

18:11

this thing is doing this but yet you

18:13

know there's other ones around. I've

18:16

been in similar situations, it is not

18:19

something you want. I hear a

18:21

lot of people say, I want to have an experience, I just

18:23

want to see when to confirm. I know they're there but

18:26

and fair enough, I get it human curiosity, you want

18:28

to know but sometimes you got

18:30

to be careful what the hell you're wishing

18:32

for because there's certain things like

18:35

the reality of what was going on for

18:37

my looks, this thing's doing this

18:39

crazy stuff, there's eyeshine, they're virtually surrounded but

18:41

yet they had a retreat, they had the

18:43

skiff right there, they had guns, nothing

18:45

drastic has happened but there's some ominous about

18:48

what this thing is doing. It goes on

18:50

for a little bit, still doing its thing

18:52

and it always would turn and be directly

18:54

facing them but he did

18:56

notice after a couple times a bit squatting down

18:58

whatever once they got behind the stump, it

19:01

was looking and not where

19:03

it was originally where he saw the two

19:05

sets of eyeshine behind them on the riverbank

19:07

but the eyeshine, he had anticipated it

19:09

was moving. So when he beamed on that

19:11

direction where he saw it looking now, sure

19:13

enough, two sets of eyeshine different

19:15

heights, they were bobbing and moving

19:18

because of the light or whatever, he couldn't really

19:20

make out full figures but it kills the

19:22

light, they're behind the stump, the one

19:24

still on the bank on the opposite side of

19:26

the stump and they're watching it move around, it's

19:28

almost like it's searching the ground looking for something

19:30

and they think, oh, it's going to grab a

19:32

rock. Jasmine's freaked out at the

19:34

thought, he goes, we can't just let it grab

19:36

a rock, shoots a shot in the

19:38

air, right? Just scares the shit

19:40

out of Penelope because Penelope wasn't expecting it.

19:43

The shot rings out, this thing takes off

19:45

into the trees, just doesn't

19:47

look back, just gone and he didn't

19:49

shoot at it, he shot. Immediately

19:52

Penelope turns, beams just the opposite side

19:54

of the riverbank and there's just some

19:56

brush moving, no eyeshine. Okay, pop

19:59

the shot in the air. of this thing took off. So

20:01

they beam up towards Harris Creek again. No

20:03

more eyeshadow. They're like, we're good. We're

20:06

good. Okay. Now we know what to

20:08

do with this pop shot. They're gone.

20:10

They felt confident in this. They

20:13

calm down. Some time pass. Jasmine gets

20:15

back to sleep. Penelope decides,

20:17

I'm going to have one more cold or I'm

20:19

good. Does this thing. He's

20:21

laying there and he's got the rifle

20:23

laid on him just because of what they

20:25

just dealt with and saw. Things

20:28

had gotten quiet. It

20:30

was just dozing off that he didn't remember how

20:32

much time it passed but it was plenty dark

20:34

by now. And he heard something

20:36

in the water, like a

20:38

gurgling water sound or something moving through the

20:41

water. He's just laying there listening going, is

20:43

that something drifting down the river and

20:45

water just lapping over it or is something

20:47

moving through the water. He

20:49

found out soon enough he felt and heard

20:51

water dripping off of this thing as it

20:54

came onto the gravel bar. So

20:56

across the channel and it's coming

20:58

up the gravel bar and it circles around the

21:00

stump and it circles around the

21:03

whole tent huffing and

21:05

it's imitating a bear huff. He

21:07

said really well but it

21:09

was too loud. It was

21:12

far too loud to actually be a bear huff

21:14

but because you're on the Salmon River, he

21:17

wanted to make sure, right? So after

21:19

this thing circled once and he heard it

21:22

going back towards the stump, he figured now's a good time

21:24

I can get out behind it and

21:26

get sight on this if it is a bear and

21:28

scare it off. So he

21:30

unzips and then he hears the

21:32

grunting stop. Whatever

21:35

it was heard the zipper and it got

21:37

quiet and couldn't hear it moving anymore. And

21:39

he goes, hey, we're armed in here. I

21:42

will shoot you. Very loud scream

21:45

echoes up and down the river. Very

21:47

loud multiple octaves freak

21:50

the hell out. The jasmine's up

21:52

right now because this thing literally

21:54

screamed less than 15 feet away from

21:57

them. Okay, they felt it

21:59

through every day. The thing. So. He

22:01

threatens issue scream happens. He

22:03

stuck. A the zippers only part

22:06

of the way of any gonna fucking get

22:08

out of there. So. In his

22:10

mind's eye he picks in nursing to snatch

22:12

and ten like you would have a role

22:14

that brown paper bag and just smashing and

22:16

against and right fleas I would have that

22:18

same thing. They're quiet. They're dead

22:20

quiet. They. Had to sing move nugget

22:22

circles around one more time. Gretna louder

22:24

this time with the gurgling If you

22:26

had a bad walking pneumonia in every

22:28

time he made had that sound to

22:30

it nice and was I'm Irving. Because

22:33

you could tell. It. Was

22:35

massive. The. Singh was massive

22:38

Dose footsteps in the ground. As

22:40

circled the second time in itself behind the tree

22:43

stump and they heard. The. Tree stump.

22:45

Moving rowing in the gravel.

22:48

And they could feel it being rocked and push cause

22:50

of the weight of it down in the ground. There

22:53

are not that far from this thing so they're

22:55

like. Existing. Gonna Smash! as

22:57

with the Trista and Penelope said

23:00

screw this. Of sips of

23:02

the test and just shoots out the door

23:04

of opposite direction as saying he's a suit

23:06

and high out the doors. To

23:08

have a brown lab or that led some bugs

23:10

around fly. Avid Cinram box mag

23:12

or whatever. And. Splashed

23:14

on there's all sorts of sound that happens

23:16

on both sides of the river at this.

23:19

So. They're both like. Voice. Chef. So

23:22

they get out. they crawl out. They

23:24

beam around there and they don't see nothing. That

23:27

happening. They felt. Very

23:29

enough. That they took

23:31

what they could. they left the tenth there.

23:34

They. Got in this gifts. And. They

23:36

use the battery life the left on that

23:38

spotlight. To. Potter. Their

23:40

butts and stay in the channel. To.

23:42

Get back down a clinic and they camped out

23:44

on the landing at Craig, an actor. And

23:47

this is not unique to me.

23:49

It's not unique to damn. Nikolai

23:52

Chris. That. Photographer several fishing

23:54

game. warns are I wish they

23:56

would come forward and speak cousins.

23:59

And. Sure, They'd some guess is much shit. It's

24:01

not more than me. A little

24:04

some about what I exactly now I

24:06

not no expert. Am. Not

24:08

a researcher, I. Am simply of

24:10

first nations. Alaska Native Dad

24:12

has had these encounters and

24:14

experiences. And. Never talked about

24:16

it until just the last couple

24:18

years in our culture. Without.

24:20

Share will. Spread. It out. At

24:23

it stays. In our community.

24:26

Is part of or oral history. When.

24:28

Are speaking on these things so nonchalantly?

24:30

It's because that's how it is out

24:32

there. In the Bush. These.

24:34

Things happen periodically. You'll

24:36

have a hairy man screen match your have

24:39

some sort of answer. As you're

24:41

walking down a mountain trail. It.

24:43

Happens all the time. But. As

24:45

never talked about. Especially in are

24:47

called certain other people that has had

24:50

Alaskan experiences that have shared elsewhere on

24:52

from Alaska I've shared it elsewhere but.

24:54

A lot of first nations, dumb. Ass

24:57

because it's not in our culture when

24:59

uncles question. Was. Matter of fact that

25:01

one I saw by manacled of trail. It

25:04

made a wouldn't knock sounds with his mouth

25:06

if it didn't bang two sticks together in

25:08

a like a tongue pop and a sound

25:10

like to Louisville Slugger Sydney each other so.

25:13

What? Do you do with that? I don't know.

25:15

By no means am I an expert. I've.

25:17

Just had circumstances have been.

25:20

On the places I baron. Night.

25:22

Give me a different outlook on it

25:24

because for us is not a matter

25:26

of proving anything that has nothing to

25:28

be proven. It is just as relevant

25:31

as most bear, Wolverine, Caribou, And

25:33

it is just as relevant. As. It's

25:36

the outside world. That

25:38

doesn't accept it. Doesn't. Accept

25:40

it because someone with the fancy piece of

25:42

paper didn't say it was in. That's are

25:44

now at Catching said I can sit there

25:46

and are Ivy league school that less than

25:48

two hundred years old. And. Try

25:50

to dictate some. That has

25:52

been passed down orally. Are

25:54

tens of thousands years. To

25:56

the First nations, they dismiss it. i

25:59

was there metal it's their mythology, it's this,

26:01

it's that. You

26:04

have experienced it, a lot of non-believers

26:07

won't, they won't believe

26:09

it, understandable. But understand when

26:11

I'm speaking of these things, it's not that I

26:13

live in some fairy tale land in my head

26:15

or some bullshit like that, I'm very saying these

26:18

things are happening constantly in

26:20

a remote village. And when I say

26:22

constantly, I don't mean every time someone goes outside, I'm

26:25

saying it happens with such relative

26:28

frequency, there's why report it.

26:31

You leave the village sending screams at you, you

26:33

make it home, that's daily life, not

26:36

literally every day but that's part of life

26:38

in the remote Alaska, weird stuff all the

26:40

time. You know how many

26:43

UFOs sightings have been shared with me

26:45

from just between New Studio Hawk

26:48

and Kaligaty? Literally

26:50

I already have several handfuls of just those

26:53

encounters of seeing a UFO in

26:56

these very remote places in Alaska. There's

26:59

so much going on that

27:01

we have no clue. Understand I'm

27:03

not trying to sound like I'm some authoritative voice and

27:05

I know all this stuff. What

27:07

I'm sharing is what I know and I don't

27:09

know squat, I'm not an expert. Seeing

27:12

their tracks several times, seeing what they

27:14

would call structures, seeing these things running,

27:17

doing all sorts of different various

27:19

things but it's by

27:21

default, it's not unique to me. There's

27:24

so many people in Kaligaty, New

27:27

Studio Hawk, back home in

27:29

Dillingham, Alaknagik, several

27:31

lodges in through the Woodchick State

27:33

Park, it just doesn't get

27:35

spoken about. So no one knows that this stuff

27:37

is going on. So when you hear

27:39

someone like me just spouting so nonchalantly about it, it

27:42

could give you the wrong idea and maybe

27:44

I know something others don't. I don't know shit.

27:47

What I do know is what I've experienced

27:49

and what I've experienced has been aggression, cunning,

27:53

the level of cunning these things have is

27:55

unreal to mock a baby to lure

27:57

someone out so what I'm getting at is I'm not an

27:59

expert. expert on anything. I am

28:02

only sharing what I've dealt with

28:04

and what others are sharing with me. If

28:07

I had come across like I'm some expert

28:09

on something, I apologize, I'm

28:12

just sharing what I know

28:15

and honestly in the big scheme of things, I

28:17

don't know Skora. I can tell

28:19

you they shake stuff, they break stuff and

28:21

they throw stuff. That's not a

28:23

wealth of knowledge, you understand? I'm

28:26

only not sure about it because I've

28:29

accepted it, I've seen it, it's just

28:31

part of what's going on out there.

28:33

It's what it is. This has been

28:35

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28:37

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