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Hey there and welcome back to the Sasquatch audit.

2:38

Thank you so much for being with us for

2:40

the show. It is Friday. I hope you're having

2:42

a great week. We have an amazing

2:44

show lined up for you but as always I

2:46

want to start by inviting you. If

2:49

you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show shoot

2:51

me an email you can get me a Brian

2:53

at farronamalworldproductions.com. You can head over to the

2:56

website check it out become a member there and help support this

2:58

show. I got

3:00

to sit down with James from

3:02

the Michigan Aboriginal Project and he

3:04

had some very interesting things

3:06

to say about Sasquatch. He's had some really

3:08

cool encounters and he's caught a bunch of

3:11

audio that I'm going to include at the

3:13

end of this episode. There's about 15 or

3:15

20 minutes of audio.

3:17

I didn't want to stick it in in the

3:19

middle so I'm gonna wait until the end of

3:21

the interview and I'm gonna put it in there

3:23

so when the interview is ending make sure you

3:25

don't go anywhere. You stick around if you want

3:27

to hear these audio clips. They're very interesting

3:30

to say the least. I'm gonna let you make

3:32

up your own mind about what you hear here.

3:34

All this audio is pulled from videos on

3:36

the Michigan Aboriginal Project YouTube channel so if you'd

3:38

like to see those I'm gonna link to all

3:40

of those in the blog for

3:43

this episode so head over to farronamalworldproductions.com check

3:45

out the Sasquatch Odyssey blog at the top

3:47

of the page and you can follow along

3:49

and actually see the videos and the audio

3:52

as James explains it here. Just

3:54

be aware there is some strong language that's

3:56

used in a couple of the clips. There's

3:58

a couple of F-bombs and I will left

4:00

them in there just because I wanted to have

4:02

them as they were recorded by James in the

4:04

moment. So if you got little ones

4:06

in the car or if you're sensitive to that

4:08

kind of language let this be your warning there

4:10

listener discretion is strongly advised but enough of that

4:12

I know you guys are ready to get into

4:15

it. James is on the line he's

4:17

ready to go. All that's left for you to

4:19

do is sit back relax and enjoy the show.

4:41

Welcome our guest to the show it is

4:43

James from the Michigan Aboriginal Project. Welcome to

4:45

the show James. Thank you

4:47

Brian. Appreciate the opportunity and to reach

4:49

your audience. It's always nice to reach a new audience.

4:52

I am glad to have you man. So let's dive

4:54

right into this Bigfoot thing. Let's start with what got

4:56

you interested in the subject to begin with. I

4:59

think my nature is just being a curious

5:01

creator. I grew up with three sisters and

5:03

my folks they broke up early so I

5:05

was a lot of time on my hands

5:08

and I love the cellulite heroes of Tarzan

5:10

and the Cowboys and Indians. Good guys always

5:12

win whether be the Indians or the

5:14

Cowboys. I grew up a dreamer with the creek

5:16

nearby and I'd spend as much time as I

5:18

could in the creek. At least the time that

5:20

I did spend in the creek was among my

5:22

most enjoyable memories because you're not bothered by anybody

5:25

you're on a great adventure finding crawdads and salamanders

5:27

that kind of stuff. That's how I spent part

5:29

of my youth. I've loved the

5:31

outdoors. I'm a loner having grown up in a broken

5:33

family with three sisters so I forged my way into

5:36

this whole cryptid thing. I was always just very

5:38

intrigued by the Patterson Gible and Phil. I always

5:40

thought I don't know if they're real or not

5:42

don't care basically if it is a hoax it

5:45

is a hoax but I thought if

5:47

they were in fact real I wanted to see one

5:50

and a place where I had been going up north

5:52

this valley forever I discovered

5:54

there was an ideal place to set your

5:56

sights into the hills. I'm an angling artist

5:58

and I love to camp. love

6:00

to fish, do the photography thing,

6:02

that's my medium for art. I

6:04

was up there and I burned out on all that and I thought

6:08

this big thing by my own wits and

6:10

reckoning, I thought it was real and I was

6:12

determined to see one. And

6:14

that's how it all got started. That was about March 2016.

6:17

That was the first year I went down the rabbit hole after

6:20

realizing that it was a real

6:22

phenomenon. Learned everything I could about it and

6:25

I was spending time in the woods anyway,

6:27

early spring and late fall. I

6:29

used that schedule was set up by having to

6:31

wake up and put to sleep my father's cabin

6:33

to winterize it. I would always be up there

6:36

with my dog. He sold that place, which was

6:38

a blessing to me because I

6:40

got to see a lot more of

6:42

Michigan, Canada, do a lot more exploring.

6:44

That was long before this phenomenon struck

6:46

me. I felt somewhat called to

6:49

it because they were real and I think we

6:51

all should live life to the fullest, like there's

6:53

an adventure. If you're not living it, maybe you

6:55

should get a new lifestyle coach or something like

6:57

that. I think there's a

6:59

lifestyle coach on the planet that would recommend

7:01

Bigfoot hunting because it's terrible on relationships. It's

7:04

amazing. There are a race of giants living on the

7:07

outskirts of our existence here. It's practically

7:09

biblical. I'm actually beginning to believe the

7:12

Old Testament refers to giants years ago.

7:14

The concept of Occam's razor, the

7:16

simplest explanation is that the

7:19

Old Testament is speaking the truth because

7:21

they're very existence. These giants, I believe

7:23

there are different kinds of them. I've

7:25

recorded vocals that are different in

7:27

dialect and somewhat similar in vocal

7:30

modality in Southern Michigan, as I

7:32

have in Northern Michigan, and even

7:34

yet different from vocals I've gotten

7:36

in the UP. Some

7:38

of those are the scary vocals. I

7:40

recorded there one night and I

7:43

got two amazing takeaways from that evening.

7:45

The more I studied, I'm into a

7:47

few Bible studies and I've learned also

7:49

that Michael Heizer speaks of

7:51

this unseen realm, this shield, some

7:53

people call it. I don't

7:55

know. My mind goes off on a thousand tangents,

7:58

but my current thinking is simply, you know, of

8:00

the Old Testament are still there. There are

8:02

a variety of different kinds. If you listen

8:04

to a lot of audio and understand your

8:07

audience portion of them are into

8:09

that. They're familiar with the Sierra sounds.

8:11

Ron Morehead stuff is really quite different

8:13

from the other stuff that I've gotten

8:15

in Northern Michigan and even in Southern

8:18

Michigan, or the UP for that

8:20

matter. The one audio that I

8:22

got it's on my homepage of Michigan at original.com.

8:25

As part of my proof sources, the

8:28

one audio I provide was captured up there

8:30

in the UP. That's the closest thing I

8:32

have that actually mimics what you'll hear in

8:34

the Sierra sounds. The Cliff Notes

8:37

version of my journey, I found out they were real.

8:39

Went down the rabbit hole, learned everything I could about

8:41

them. It was somewhat cajoled

8:43

into a recording project, which

8:45

I resisted initially because it's

8:47

a lot of work, right? Going

8:49

over audio, I like it actually.

8:51

But you can get lost and

8:53

it does strain relationships. This whole

8:55

phenomenon, if you're enthusiastic about it,

8:57

it's gonna strain relationships especially if

9:00

you take it to the nth

9:02

degree, which nobody ever sees coming

9:04

and I certainly did. But here I am. I'm

9:06

James with the Michigan Aboriginal Project. Let's

9:09

get into the woods and talk about

9:11

some of your first experiences. Go chronologically.

9:13

When you really got out into the

9:15

woods, really started getting into Bigfoot and

9:17

started having experiences. Tell us where you were,

9:20

what you were doing and what happened to you. Okay,

9:22

I went up on two different camping

9:24

trips. One was beginning of September and

9:26

then later October, the end of

9:28

2016. This is like my initiation into the woods to

9:31

test theories that I learned from Nathan

9:34

Rio, his YouTube name. I'm sure you've

9:36

heard that. If you

9:38

haven't, he identified the fact that

9:41

these beings, these communities have somewhat

9:43

of a structure, a social structure

9:45

and they construct things out of

9:48

woods, six structures, three

9:50

pieces, wigwams. I'm not talking about the

9:52

complicated puzzles that we

9:54

often try to figure out in the woods. I

9:57

often walk by those because how much time do

9:59

you want to I'm doing that. I

10:01

actually look for wigwams, teepees, link twos,

10:03

or actual other manipulations, twists. I found

10:06

some twists very near structures and such.

10:08

That's all Sasquatch known

10:11

behavior activity. And

10:13

to test my theory time

10:15

and again, somewhat in keeping with

10:17

the scientific method, when I find these, I

10:20

leave a recorder there to see what I pick up. And

10:22

when I get vocals or

10:25

other vocal modalities that I have

10:27

observed in other areas, even

10:29

the vocal modalities that I recorded

10:32

on encounter audio. I have

10:34

two audio encounters recorded

10:38

and one video encounter report.

10:40

But actually a post encounter and the one I

10:42

captured on video, I didn't even

10:44

know I captured till four months later. Let's

10:47

talk about those. Start with the audio encounters

10:49

and set the scene for us, tell us

10:51

where you were, what happened during that, and

10:53

then we'll obviously insert the audio for everybody

10:55

to hear when they're listening to this. But

10:57

let's get into the story of what was

10:59

going on and what you were doing, what

11:01

they were doing, and what you heard during

11:03

the audio. The first audio

11:05

recording that I got was most

11:08

significant and not really significant. They're all good and

11:10

they're all very unique in their own ways. But

11:12

I was up, I moved up a camping trip

11:14

up to a usual spot. It was

11:16

October 21st, friend of mine's mother had passed. So I

11:19

wanted to attend the funeral service later in the week.

11:21

So I truncated my trip by a day. So I

11:23

was only up there three nights. My

11:25

first night, all the action went down. I was

11:28

sitting under my tarp. I was sipping out of

11:30

this mug, finishing my second beer. I

11:32

was about halfway through it. And

11:34

I heard down by the river, I heard, oh,

11:36

Chi Chi Chi, huh? It was

11:39

crisp, clear, it was clearly speech.

11:41

And I was like, who

11:43

else is out here with me? Because

11:45

there are no other campers. It's raining,

11:47

it's dark, it's around eight o'clock on

11:50

that night. And I had stood up, I

11:52

heard this to stretch. And

11:54

Then I heard the Achi Chi Chi, some

11:57

other commotion, which sounded like huge monster truck

11:59

wheels going through. Master of Puddles. That's

12:01

what sounded like in my ears.

12:03

The audio? That that actually. Is.

12:06

Recorded. And. Published I remember

12:08

totally different li but I remember

12:10

also how. Is. Set at

12:12

one but was there that has you law

12:14

law moments. It's it's in that Nancy. it

12:16

has the law. While this madness going on

12:18

after the or teach you are. You.

12:21

Have other stuff that sounds demonic,

12:23

sounds monstrous. Later on, you have

12:25

little gremlin ashes buried. Both those.

12:28

Your clock signaling prior to

12:30

my. Audibly here in the

12:32

Archie to too far down by the river

12:34

you can hear all that. I have two

12:36

versions of this on my youtube channel. One

12:39

is called in their midst ten minutes, uninterrupted.

12:41

And that as the less processed

12:44

less filtered. Audio. Of.

12:46

The other one is little more feel superior.

12:48

New lose some from the less filtered audio

12:50

but you pick up other things like of

12:52

the three minute thirty mark in the original

12:55

lightly filtered version. You. Cannot sheer

12:57

the expression at the three minute

12:59

thirty seconds if of the overly

13:01

processed Er modulators version in ios

13:04

you're a vocal it says. He

13:06

be nazi move ah. Which.

13:09

Is super cool as in the background it's

13:11

a lower voice is is really super cool.

13:13

Most of the vocals that's the list or

13:15

will sheer. I. Didn't detect. I

13:18

only heard. The man as

13:20

afterwards there was a big boom. Alice

13:22

Sonic Boom I saw that doesn't wave of

13:24

that believers a vocal. I'm going with Beaucoup

13:26

Plus don't know what else it could beach

13:29

it would. It sounded like an empty

13:31

dumpster being dropped on a concrete. much you

13:33

get above. Average. Sucks.

13:35

It was mouth and eve not it.

13:38

Other man us went on. There was a

13:40

moment when it felt like customers. but and

13:42

sixty grit? Sandpaper I'm A

13:44

or drops. It was very uncomfortable as

13:46

felt as if that white snow on

13:48

the tv when we're kids. The

13:51

Tv went to white snow. Itself like

13:53

that on my eardrums. That was crazy. There was another

13:55

moment where it is. It's at the point where you

13:57

hear me in the background I say what was the.

14:00

Right before that moments where I say what

14:03

was that. The tarp moves.

14:05

Rainwater fell off the job in the tree.

14:07

The tarp was statue that moved a little

14:09

bit. It was weird. It was

14:11

really weird and I say what was that?

14:13

The whole experience was nuts and it just

14:15

a few seconds intuit I honestly thought it

14:17

was gonna be my last moments. In

14:20

finish your you feel that stuff and is

14:22

your that stuff in the habit sensations on

14:24

you tube down membranes his what the hell

14:26

I really thought I was gonna thought. I

14:28

was never molested that I didn't see

14:30

one as unceasing once I saw no

14:32

I shy. And it was a

14:35

month later when I started listening to that audio.

14:37

is about a month before I have my nerves

14:39

back together quite honestly and I I came home

14:41

brand and I can't talk to my life. I

14:43

can talk to my family about it. Gets.

14:45

Hurt anybody about it. Even. Some guys?

14:48

my bible study group. They're really not

14:50

there for me. Want to kansas the

14:52

emotional sort of support and will listen,

14:54

name or of the ministry of presence

14:56

that you really need after have experienced

14:58

one of those? It was nuts. I

15:00

don't ever want to go through another

15:02

one of those encounters. Yeah, Nor.

15:04

The other audio encounter that I have record

15:06

in that's more recent that was sucked over

15:08

twenty fourth. Of the

15:10

Monday morning again it was raining. It's

15:13

interesting in a move with the

15:15

raid is greater concealment Grader. Cover.

15:18

right? He. At the dark? Yeah. The

15:20

wet? Yeah, that sounds. Interesting thing about

15:23

the sound? the rain. They have an ability

15:25

to communicate brian. Within the didn't

15:27

have the rain or even the wins and

15:29

I've got audio recordings if you have a

15:31

few big that students in the audience. And.

15:33

They want to check out. You can tell a lot about.

15:36

What's. Going on he paint a picture over

15:38

time. I've been doing the recording our project

15:40

for over five years. And

15:42

jai you start to pick up. At.

15:44

The beginning. I don't recommend this for

15:46

anybody. Again, it's hard on relationships. Not

15:49

only do you spend the time reviewing

15:51

audio footage, you've got to learn to

15:53

identify the very subtle things that are

15:55

in there that might give way to.

15:57

This what I call a harmonic resin.

16:00

The speech is ticking clock. You

16:02

stop the melodic stuff. We.

16:04

Cushy plucky, but it's also

16:06

a resonance with enunciation. Which.

16:09

Is weird and so the students in the audience

16:11

at want to go down to i think I

16:13

try to include Spectragrams an accurate with the audio

16:15

that I published. Start to get away from that

16:18

because I think of dumb enough and to lot

16:20

of as an extra work. Try. To

16:22

become a little more artistic and

16:24

my presentation out my current thinking

16:27

of this phenomenon and the audio

16:29

caught his. Eye to. I

16:31

think maybe it's initial our just drawn stuff up.

16:34

Sounds. With there's vocal spectrograph spectragrams,

16:36

I'm not doing any commentary which

16:38

is a disservice my audience and

16:40

I promise I will to make

16:42

amends. On that because a lot

16:44

of this needs explanation. I'm lazy set

16:47

up, but right now I'm between jobs.

16:49

I've got my website where I think

16:51

I wanted right now. Or. Onward.

16:53

And upward toward the documentary

16:55

artistic projects so. Maybe.

16:58

Even a book And someday I gots to answer

17:00

right about. Or yeah, I'm challenged

17:02

by my laziness. Bless your heart if you

17:04

get into writing about man, I just finished

17:06

mine and it's out now.a resolution. It was

17:08

a labor of love for she was you.

17:11

Let's. Talk about the second audio that you

17:13

were just talking about. The second audio experience

17:15

that you had was it's similar to the

17:17

first. All you heard something audible, wealth, and

17:20

and v vocal modalities picked up by the

17:22

audio. Yeah, somewhat similar. Again, it's raining out

17:24

on that morning. six Am on the twenty

17:26

fourth. Start. Out the tree still

17:28

had some leaves, others somewhat of a champion. To

17:30

start out as rain, it's cloudy. it's really can't

17:33

see much. Really, I was in a deep

17:35

sleep. I was dreaming about a job I was going to

17:37

start the following Monday. I. Heard this I

17:39

thought it was like initially I thought it was

17:41

a cast. As. It was kinda sounded

17:43

like a seems to me against i'm hearing

17:45

a vocal in of course I'm coming out

17:48

of a dead sleep. But. I'm here

17:50

and what's was sounded like a because since i thought

17:52

maybe it was cougar and i've never seen any to

17:54

go around there but i know their up if. I

17:57

rolled out of out of bed and look up. And.

18:00

There is this four footish

18:02

tall standing like a soldier

18:04

or a sailor straight up and down. It

18:06

had moved back when I rolled over. I'm

18:09

looking at it, I'm thinking, ask the

18:11

end of a deer what's going on? And

18:14

it began to take shape, what little

18:16

light was there. It began to take

18:18

shape, you can tell, I think it was like a lightest tan,

18:21

four foot. You can see the darkness between

18:23

the legs and between the torso and the

18:25

arms. You can draw a rough face, no

18:27

details of the face but just a four

18:29

foot thing there. And I

18:32

said, hey, when I realized I was

18:34

just an instinct basically, and I said, get out of

18:36

here. And by the time I could

18:38

fully extend my right arm, it had gone.

18:41

I heard maybe it leave, maybe one step, but

18:43

after that it was not, and it was

18:45

fast. It was like, just gone as

18:47

fast as my arm. Get out of here, it was just gone.

18:50

I've examined the audio for about

18:52

four and a half hours prior to

18:54

that, and some audio after

18:56

that. And the vocal modalities are there.

18:58

The speech that I was awakened

19:01

to, that hissing sound was really, it was

19:03

speech, but it was that more that harmonic.

19:06

It sounds like a harmonica trying to

19:08

enunciate, which is weird, if

19:10

you can imagine that. So you can look

19:12

at the spectrogram, I published that. The

19:14

first audio I published was a

19:17

very rude awakening. It's just

19:19

maybe five, six videos down off the top.

19:21

But that was, I presume to be a Sasquatch.

19:24

I also thought since it was menacing, little

19:26

people, but the thing like that first

19:28

audio capture, encounter experienced, that was quite

19:30

menacing. Were they trying to be menacing?

19:32

I don't know. It was

19:34

scary. You got a whole host of different

19:37

characters there. I was messed up to that good

19:40

month before I actually listened to

19:42

the audio. And then when I cleaned it up, I

19:44

was messed up for a good three, four more months

19:46

after that, because there were multiple subjects out there, multiple

19:50

individual vocal DNA or vocal

19:53

expressions there. You hear warm,

19:55

it's after the five minute part. We're

19:57

not, the achi-chi-chi-ha is at a four.

20:00

minute 53 seconds of In Their Midst, the

20:02

two videos that I published under that

20:05

name, In Their Midst. The voice

20:07

was, you're wreaking havoc and it sounds

20:09

like a gremlinish sort of voice. I

20:12

think it's most of two minutes beyond

20:14

that, the same voice says,

20:16

havoc, hate this man tomorrow.

20:19

I swear to God. And I'm formerly atheist.

20:21

I've done a 180 on that. Not

20:23

even Jesus freak. I could process that to

20:25

your audience now. Not gonna. One

20:27

of the coolest things, one of the greatest benefits

20:30

of biblical studies is the fact that this

20:32

story of the Old Testament giants is

20:34

likely to be true.

20:36

It's very true. It's still here. It's

20:39

an amazing phenomena. I definitely

20:41

want to get into some of your theories on that after

20:44

we get through the experiences. The audio

20:46

has been something that has always fascinated

20:48

me with tons of different

20:50

experiences because it's something that you can

20:52

at least listen to, get into.

20:57

We know known animal sounds. We

20:59

know what humans sound like. There's

21:01

a scientific baseline to start from

21:03

and work from. I've

21:05

done multiple interviews with Ron Morehead about

21:07

the Sierra sounds. I've had Scott Nelson

21:09

on the show and done a breakdown

21:11

of him explaining what he

21:14

hears in the Sierra sounds. For

21:16

me, it's been interesting to look at

21:18

a lot of the audio that people

21:20

like yourself have captured and other people

21:23

because we hear different things. I've

21:25

never really talked to anybody outside of

21:27

Ron or Scott who have claimed

21:30

to hear these voices and

21:32

speech patterns in audio that's really

21:34

interesting to me. Are

21:36

you finding other things in

21:39

the audio what we hear often?

21:42

I've heard weird things here on the

21:44

audio that I've captured on my property of

21:47

a really large tree. We

21:49

live in the middle of the woods. We're on 40 acres. Trees

21:52

fall all the time. I have

21:54

looked for this tree. I'm still to this day looking

21:56

for this tree and I recorded this probably seven months

21:58

ago. strange to

22:00

hear shuffling walking around in the area

22:03

where the recorder's at and then you

22:05

hear this huge tree

22:07

coming down. It sounds like

22:09

it's right next to the recorder yet it's not

22:11

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you capturing those kind of things or wood knocks

24:24

or any of those things? No, but I've heard

24:26

that. I haven't captured that phenomenon, but I've heard

24:28

it. It was the second I stepped out of

24:31

my car. It was a Wednesday

24:33

night late because I worked downstate. I used

24:35

to set up camp and they had lights and all that. As soon

24:37

as I stepped out of the car, I heard a tree call. The

24:41

sounds. But the thing is,

24:43

I heard no branches breaking.

24:45

It's a pretty dense forest up there. I

24:48

recently posted a walk in their woods. You

24:50

can see right outside my camp where

24:52

it is. A tree doesn't fall without hitting other

24:54

trees there. I've

24:56

heard that phenomenon. Igor Bursa says they're

24:58

pranksters. Okay, the Russian guy for

25:00

the audience. He says they're pranksters and they're

25:02

totally pranksters. The one that woke me up

25:05

at 6am, I think he was just being

25:07

a little asshole. Because I have an

25:09

interesting vocal after that. It

25:11

sounds like I was so afraid. It's

25:13

sometime after that morning between the time

25:15

of the incident that I woke up.

25:19

Is that auditory pareidolia? Who knows? A lot

25:21

of my stuff is very esoteric. But

25:23

that's what piqued my curiosity. What is this? Because

25:25

we know. I've been in the woods whenever I

25:27

can for as long as I can remember. I

25:30

don't know these other sounds. Boxes can

25:32

scare you. A squirrel can scare you. They

25:34

can make pretty terrifying sounds. Especially if they

25:36

catch you off guard. But they're

25:39

not so esoteric. We know

25:41

about it. They're commonly known. This

25:43

other stuff, a subtle twitch, snip,

25:46

or a sensation that

25:48

is that harmonic kind of stuff. Then you

25:50

go through the very low-boreus task of peeling

25:53

away the hiss and all that kind of

25:55

stuff. Trying to clean up the audio. Now,

25:57

I've reached out to audio experts. things

26:00

to know. It depends on where

26:02

you come from, your perspective. If you're more

26:04

skeptical and scientific minded, like Kathy Strain, she

26:06

says my audio is distorted. And I'm like,

26:09

I don't understand that quite honestly, because when

26:12

I capture a raw image of a

26:14

subject that eventually is artistic

26:16

quality that I could sell, I work

26:19

the image. I clarify it. I bring

26:21

it out. I work the image enough

26:23

to elicit a particular emotional

26:25

response to the viewer. To me,

26:27

it's just, okay, that feels right.

26:29

The composition's right, et cetera.

26:33

So I capture the audio, and as much

26:35

as I capture a raw image for photography,

26:37

to me, it doesn't do anything

26:39

for me unless you enhance things a little bit,

26:41

clarify, get rid of it to try to

26:44

sun the surface of the water in that snake

26:46

image. Taking the same approach with audio as I

26:48

did with photography, and that I

26:50

want to amplify it enough so it doesn't

26:53

lose too much, it really clarifies what's there.

26:56

It's like the Michigan Valley voices.

26:58

That is definitely something that you

27:00

should play for your audience, because first time

27:02

I got only my close quarters stuff at

27:04

a teepee that I've gotten a

27:06

lot of vocals from, not only were

27:08

the subjects near the recorder,

27:11

there were subjects around the valley. It

27:13

sounds like they're around the valley, and they're all

27:15

communicating. It begins with the last half

27:17

of a nah, which I maintain as a no, a

27:20

vocal. Then it's responded by a

27:22

call, and then that call

27:24

is responded by a siren call, which

27:27

is another reason why it underscores

27:29

or affirms some suspicions that these

27:31

beings may be of a

27:33

realm discussed in the Bible, what realm I

27:35

don't know. And that siren call, there's some

27:38

other stuff, and it's not chaos. It's like

27:40

there's a meeting going on amidst these residents

27:43

or this community within the valley. It's

27:46

unbelievable. It has some components of

27:48

other audio captures, even

27:50

Ron Morehead's, especially those who

27:52

played up in Alaska. I don't

27:55

know if you saw that episode. He was up in Alaska.

27:57

He played some amazing audio. But

28:00

you'll hear multiple subjects communicating back

28:02

and forth. There is

28:04

some speech, but there are also a

28:06

host of other vocal modalities, including

28:09

a whistle. It's called the Michigan

28:11

Valley Voices. I recommend version 2.0 because

28:13

it's a little better processed. It's a

28:15

little more masterfully, like an artistic image.

28:18

It's the best capture of that audio

28:20

that I've been able to work with.

28:23

Before we move into some of your other experiences,

28:25

I'm going to put you on the spot here.

28:27

There's no pressure with this question at all because

28:29

we didn't talk about this beforehand. You mentioned the

28:31

PG film when we first started the interview. You

28:33

work with images all the time. I don't know

28:35

if you've seen the latest images that have came

28:38

out of what MK Davis and

28:40

Todd Gatewood have worked on. Have you seen

28:42

those new images of Patty? I

28:44

have. And it's really quite amazing. Isn't

28:47

there some AI assistance with the material it

28:49

has to work with? I don't know how

28:51

AI works. I know I can

28:53

get it through my creative cloud subscription, but

28:56

again, I'm lazy and some of that stuff is

28:58

beyond. I learned enough and do enough to achieve

29:00

what I wish to achieve. And this

29:02

Michigan Aboriginal project thing is funny because I've

29:05

been motivated by the fact that I think

29:07

my family thinks I'm crazy. My friends think

29:09

I'm crazy. So I live in Grosse Pointe.

29:12

There's social pressure everywhere. Grosse Pointe

29:14

is stereotypically social pressure. That's one

29:16

of the rubs in the community

29:18

at this point. I just interviewed

29:20

MK Davis and Todd Gatewood last

29:23

week, round one of probably

29:25

a couple of rounds of interviews I'm going to do with

29:27

them to get through all of the material that there is

29:29

to work with there. But specifically,

29:32

there are some questions about whether there was

29:34

AI used. He calls it an upscaling that

29:37

he's doing with some sort of process

29:39

that he's using software on a computer.

29:42

I haven't really heard him talk about what that is. That's

29:45

interesting. I think I've

29:47

seen upscaling as an option in

29:50

one of my software programs, probably

29:52

Photoshop. It might be Illustrator.

29:55

I don't know. I'm not that savvy with

29:57

either of those products. Again, I only do

29:59

what I need. to do to get

30:01

paid. So that I imagine

30:03

maybe the process of upscaling might

30:06

be equivalent to AI, maybe it is. I

30:08

have no idea. But I imagine

30:10

that the software just looks as an image

30:12

based on input. It

30:15

can probably render a pretty accurate. I

30:17

have no fault with anybody using technology

30:20

or enhancements to prove a point. The PG

30:22

film, I think it's been beaten up. Now,

30:24

MK is taking it to new levels. I

30:26

saw something within the past week or so.

30:28

There may be a juvenile beyond a stump.

30:31

It moves. There's couples dark spots. It does

30:34

in fact look like movement. So that's

30:36

pretty cool. I think

30:38

we can still learn a lot from Ron

30:40

Morehead's audio. He mentions that one

30:42

of those nights, and I don't know if they

30:44

got this on audio or not. I hope they

30:46

did. Because he mentioned it sounded as if they

30:49

came through the camp. They heard

30:51

this fracking, cracking. This sounds like

30:53

the camp was being destroyed in the morning and

30:55

nothing was touched. So they have a vocal. And

30:57

I actually recorded this a few times in the

31:00

Hanzo. It's a Hanzo

31:02

file. It's a clacking. We

31:05

know they do the melodic clacking, but this

31:07

is like a super loud clack. I

31:09

actually have some vocals that I'm convinced. I

31:12

thought they were gunshots and I was

31:14

working on a little documentary fodder. And

31:16

I started to clean up this file, which I really

31:19

thought were gunshots. I'm not sure

31:21

they are. I believe that they can

31:23

vocalize and sound like anything they

31:25

want to ask me. Like adults are being dropped

31:27

on the concrete or a high

31:30

caliber pistol being discharged in

31:32

the woods. They have those abilities. Wayne

31:35

and I were talking about it on that Bigfoot

31:37

podcast. We actually did an entire episode about the

31:39

Sierra sounds because this interview

31:41

happened I think it was last year at

31:43

some point, maybe last summer. It

31:45

was Jeff over at Pine Island Research. He had

31:47

Ron Morehead and he had Todd Nese on the

31:49

show. And they were just

31:51

talking casually and Jeff had talked

31:53

to Todd beforehand and Todd had

31:55

mentioned to him, yeah, Ron's got like another 11

31:58

or 12 hours of the Sierra.

32:00

sounds that nobody's ever heard. And

32:02

just, holy shit, what are you talking about? So

32:05

he asked Ron about it on the show and

32:07

Ron's, yeah, there's probably, I don't know, 11 or 12

32:10

more hours that we haven't released. So

32:12

here's the thing I love about what you're

32:14

doing. There's a question in

32:16

here somewhere. I love the fact that you're putting out,

32:18

I assume you put out just about everything there is.

32:21

If you find some sort of anomaly when you're going through the

32:23

audio, you put it out there and let people hear it. Yeah,

32:26

I have not published, most

32:29

of what I've gathered is not published. Some

32:31

of the stuff freaks my shit out. This

32:34

is where I have to step away from this

32:36

stuff. There's no other explanation than the fact that

32:38

we're dealing with something that I'm not

32:40

even sure we should know about. I

32:42

think we do need to know about it. My

32:44

thinking is right now, the drives of the Old Testament are

32:47

real, maybe we should listen to the Bible. Imagine

32:49

what society would be like if we just obeyed the

32:51

Ten Commandments. It'd be Shangri-La. I'd

32:54

love to hear some of what Ron

32:56

Morehead has described as having happened that night

32:58

because it's a game for me. I call

33:00

it mining vocal gems from the depths of

33:03

the woods. It's this harmonic

33:05

stuff. It is sometimes, and I'm telling

33:07

you some of it sounds seriously angelic.

33:09

I've got a set of

33:11

recordings. I got

33:13

a video of this too. I document

33:15

all my ingress and egress, picking up

33:17

recordings, all that kind of stuff.

33:20

I have some stuff that sounds really

33:22

ethereally, beautifully angelic. It's weird. It's really

33:25

weird. I haven't published any of that.

33:27

I've got 13 hours that

33:29

I got Spring last year where

33:32

you can hear whoops on occasion

33:34

and other vocal modalities. One

33:36

subject walks by the recorder, sounds like he's humming

33:38

a tune. Not a lot of notes

33:40

are expressed, but it sounds like humming a tune. It's

33:43

just really amazing stuff. Most of

33:45

what I've published is stuff that I

33:47

think is digestible for the viewing audience

33:50

because a lot of this stuff isn't. I've

33:52

been through a lot of shit in my life, so

33:54

I think I'm emotionally prepared for a lot, but you're

33:57

just not. I can actually begin to shake a

33:59

little bit. but there's more to

34:01

this phenomenon than we

34:03

could ever imagine. I'm pushing an

34:06

evidence-based approach in a very passive

34:08

way and I think that's very

34:10

easily achievable with the audio

34:12

project that I've been doing. Anybody

34:15

can do what I'm doing. I just have to

34:17

be willing to put the time into it

34:19

and perhaps even risk relationships.

34:22

It is a stressor, so be careful. I

34:25

almost lost my fiancé. We're married now. It's a

34:27

testament to what kind of a salesman I am,

34:29

I think. That's definitely a

34:31

good one. Yeah, and we got a good

34:33

thing going. She knows this. She's coming around.

34:35

She actually told someone in church. She said,

34:37

he actually found out, found where they lived.

34:40

So I think she's coming around. I think

34:42

maybe her children. It wasn't certainly

34:44

my daughter's. She's convinced her because they think it's

34:47

all a myth. That leads me

34:49

into my next question I was going to get

34:51

to is, let's talk a little bit about the

34:53

area that you're going into because there are people

34:55

who are saying, and I think the same thing.

34:57

I'm a very skeptical person. My cop

34:59

brain immediately goes to Occam's Razor like you

35:01

said. Are you in

35:03

an area where you're convinced that

35:06

there aren't people walking by humming tunes

35:09

and you're not catching people on audio?

35:11

Obviously, I don't want you to give coordinates of where

35:13

you're setting up your project. Let's keep it

35:15

private. But in general, can you describe the area that you're

35:18

in and give us the layout of that because there are

35:20

people who are going to hear this and say, it may

35:22

be people that he's recording. How far

35:24

out there are you? Are you in an area

35:26

where you're convinced they're not people other than yourself,

35:28

obviously? Most of my

35:31

recordings I'm not present for. What I look

35:33

for are these structures. There are physical artifacts

35:35

in the woods that give them away. We

35:37

talked about the TP's wigwams, lean

35:39

twos, the twists, things of that nature.

35:41

So when I find a TP, that's where

35:44

they commute. And you test

35:46

that by simply leaving a recorder and see if you

35:48

get some vocals. It might take several nights. Again,

35:50

you need to know what to look for and my hit rate's

35:52

pretty high because I went down that

35:54

rabbit hole. I twisted the recesses

35:57

of my brains learning this.

35:59

This is learning. the warning curve kind of

36:01

stuff, because it is very esoteric and it's

36:03

very hard to believe. There's a humanoid species

36:05

out there can have a regular conversation within

36:07

the sound of the rain and we can't

36:10

hear it. At times I

36:12

sensed this harmonic resonance

36:14

that I call it. At

36:16

times I sensed that and I was wondering what was going

36:18

on. I remember wondering about this

36:20

weird sensation I had before the achichi

36:22

chu ha and all the other madness

36:25

went down. I curse the audience to listen

36:27

to that because it is

36:29

otherworldly, demonic,

36:32

weird, fairy, dwarf-like

36:34

sounding vocals. It's bizarre.

36:37

It's weird. I got sidetracked again.

36:39

So bring me back, Ryan. That

36:41

was a good way to answer the question. I

36:44

know you have a documented sighting. I saw the

36:46

video of what looks to be one of these

36:48

creatures. Can you give us the backstory about where

36:50

you were, what you were doing and what happened

36:52

during that experience? Yeah, absolutely. Back in 2016, it

36:54

was October 30th. A buddy of mine

36:56

from Indiana had come up. He spent, I think, two

36:59

nights. I showed him around her,

37:01

showed him some structures, some anomalies. He's very skeptical

37:03

as well, but very kind

37:05

and courteous and gracious and allowed me

37:07

to try to educate him on

37:09

this phenomenon. So I was up there. He had

37:11

left that afternoon. It was later that night. I

37:13

was going to go to bed. It was about

37:15

a quarter to ten. I was brushing

37:17

my teeth. I had a little sonic hair. You

37:20

hear the humming, the buzzing or humming of

37:22

the sonic hair. I went over to the

37:24

side of the camp to spit. I had

37:27

my red headlamp on. I

37:29

spit and I look up and there I see

37:31

two eyes. A very wide set. Huge

37:34

bottle circumference. Huge. I

37:37

locked it. We had a stare down for

37:39

I don't know how long. It felt longer

37:41

than the nine minute video that I

37:43

captured after I broke the impasse. It

37:45

was a long stare down. And

37:48

several minutes into it, it eventually

37:50

just closed its right eye to the left

37:52

by my perspective. I'm thinking

37:54

it was becoming over sensitized to my

37:56

red lamp, even though it was night

37:58

and reds. That from to

38:00

I sit in with prolonged use. It

38:03

it's really not that offensive but it cause it's

38:05

eyes and so it's a lesson they be another

38:07

minute to and i'm thinking of get could go

38:09

on on I will you do this on ios

38:11

in a little bored of them. I.

38:13

Actually, Turned. Around one

38:16

of ours things I've ever done because it's at this

38:18

point I was convinced. Of. Get this is

38:20

a sauce watch have heard about. I

38:22

sides nothing in the was that I

38:24

know of. Not around here, not run

38:26

a campsite. Nothing has wide set them

38:28

up. March of an ice shelf? Pretty

38:30

darn convinced. So I went and grabbed

38:32

my flashlight and my recorder. Little Sony

38:35

handycam. Now we're not attach

38:37

the time. I've since attached Max last

38:39

night to the recorder. His feet nighttime.

38:42

Up. Germs read comes out but I went

38:44

out there for good. It was over nine

38:46

minutes of footage like got. I'd never saw

38:48

the subject in the background which I have

38:50

revealed on my website. When. I

38:52

found that. I saw little movement

38:54

in the background a grab that footage. Used.

38:57

To watch my video. So. A

38:59

little app which I highly recommend. It enables

39:02

you to actually some men and expand on

39:04

this and you can see the movement of

39:06

that subject in the background. On initial footage

39:08

showed a thinks it's six seconds so do

39:11

nine minutes I published in it was caption

39:13

when in the first. When. He

39:15

seconds. After I turned on

39:17

the flashlight in engage the camera that

39:19

subject is revealed. The background is your

39:22

say back there. And. It's

39:24

pivots from the right to the left.

39:27

And it reveals the a killer

39:29

recess you can detect in or

39:31

regular recess You can see that

39:33

the general shape of the body

39:35

large for busiest muscles as it

39:37

is it's it's left arm tests.

39:40

Are. A dark a shadow on

39:42

it's products are you can detect that

39:44

it was shot normally thirty frames per

39:46

second. I regret that to this day.

39:49

It's pretty slow compared to the technology

39:51

and I'm buffs frugal minded batteries in

39:53

memory cards, I try to keep as

39:55

much crap off as possible. so

39:58

i will never shoot and thirty frames

40:00

of this I can't again but there is enough

40:03

light and movement

40:05

to reveal the shape of an

40:07

upright monochromatic

40:09

humanoid that we know as

40:11

Sasquatch. It's definitely an

40:13

intriguing video. I will definitely link to that

40:15

over on the Sasquatch Odyssey blog for everybody

40:18

to see. It'll go directly to your YouTube

40:20

channel so they can check that out. It's

40:22

very compelling. I want to ask you this. You've

40:25

been doing this project for five years. You've been out in

40:27

the woods. You've had some experiences. I don't want to put

40:29

words in your mouth. I don't want to speak for you.

40:32

It seems to me that you're leaning more

40:34

towards these things being more than just a

40:36

flesh and blood creature. Not all of

40:38

them. Okay. I want to get into

40:40

that. I am one of those people who I

40:43

talk to a lot of people. I talked to

40:45

a lady just this afternoon. I had another interview

40:47

earlier today. She's had some weird

40:49

experiences with what she believes to be mind

40:52

speak and possibly some sort of infrasound things

40:54

going on. It's

40:56

Teeter and on the woo. She came

40:58

right out and said, I'm on the woo side of

41:00

this. So, let's get into that a little bit because

41:02

you mentioned that earlier. You think there's different types of

41:04

these things. Talk a little bit about

41:06

your theory on what types we're talking

41:09

about and what you think these things might be.

41:11

Yeah. I don't know how many types

41:13

or what types there are. I just know

41:16

that there are in Deuteronomy

41:18

2nd chapter verse 20 of the Old

41:20

Testament, people get a mention, just one

41:22

mention in the entire book. They're called

41:24

the Zamzumim people. They

41:27

get their name from the ancient Hebrew word

41:29

or the Hebrew word Zamzum, which

41:31

is an automatopoeia for to buzz or to

41:33

hum. Okay. I

41:36

looked into this and there is a rationale, an

41:38

explanation for the origins of the name and that's

41:40

one of them. I have a

41:42

lot of the buzzing and humming vocal

41:45

modalities expressed not only in my

41:47

encounters, but in other audio

41:50

captures when I'm not around. And

41:52

these are the places where I believe they commune. When

41:55

I find singleton or concentrations of

41:58

Multiple structures. I.

42:00

Have a video called the Vocal Village

42:02

Record Replacements. Even see the entire village.

42:04

There's actually two versus of the Vocal

42:06

Phillips once just a walk through. it

42:08

may just marvel a month and on.

42:10

Never forget the feeling I had walking

42:13

in the midst of this place for

42:15

the very first time. I step into

42:17

a time machine and Cashback of Hundred

42:19

Thousand Years is evolutions of thing into

42:21

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42:23

know otherwise, I believe their mortal, their

42:25

flesh and blood. There is room

42:27

and that lose side conversations from a biblical

42:30

perspective. Anyway that some of these things could

42:32

be the sons of God. In the Sons

42:34

of God, they are of his image. They.

42:37

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42:39

than L A when. They. Are

42:41

sons of God but they are mortal saw

42:43

made it to was the biblical reference their.

42:45

Samedi. To speak to them says

42:47

they are some starboard they are mortal.

42:50

They will die like princes of die

42:52

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42:54

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42:56

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I believe there's an echelon which very well

44:44

could be supernatural opinions. I'm not saying they're

44:46

all supernatural. I'm not saying

44:48

they're all Nephilim.

44:50

Nephilim are all giants, but not

44:52

all giants are Nephilim, right? I

44:54

believe the Nephilim are most commonly referred to as

44:56

the unholy offspring of the sons of God and

44:59

the daughters of men. So,

45:01

these sons of gods are immortal. They have bodies, they

45:03

have corpses. And these

45:05

men of renown, these men

45:07

of old, who are they? Who is Goliath?

45:09

Who is the Kandahar giant? Did he have a name?

45:11

I would think so. I think those

45:13

are the Nephilim. I

45:16

think there are a variety of other

45:18

beings out there, some of

45:20

whom could be the sons of God. I'm

45:23

not saying all of them are. Right, I've recorded

45:25

them chanting. Okay, I've not done this

45:27

once. I've only

45:30

published one chanting video,

45:32

and you can hear them. It's amazing. It's unbelievably

45:34

amazing. What

45:38

are these things? These

45:40

tipis, are they altars? Are they play things

45:42

for their offspring? Nobody knows.

45:45

Are they a way to worship the one most

45:47

high? I don't know. I'm not going

45:50

to speculate and say this, that, or

45:52

the other thing, but my current leanings

45:54

and where my own evidence is leading

45:57

me is to this present

45:59

line of thinking. thinking that they could

46:01

very well be part of this otherworldly

46:03

creation that are not a part of

46:05

our regular life. Why aren't we

46:07

told about them? They're real. I've seen

46:09

them. I've seen them up close with

46:12

that juvenile. Why aren't we told

46:14

about these? That was terrifying. I went out

46:16

there looking for these things. I didn't have

46:18

an experience, although I've had experiences in the

46:20

past. When I was hunting, when I

46:22

was camping out in Idaho, I've had experiences that

46:24

were basically unexplained to

46:27

me. Just an oddity, a

46:29

curiosity, but what do you do with it? You

46:31

have no actual explanation. I wouldn't think of that

46:33

big, but we might have joked about it back

46:35

then. But I think a lot

46:37

of the experiences in the past, I believe, have

46:40

been explained by all that I've learned about these

46:42

creations. Again, I'm not urging

46:44

anybody, and by no means should anybody

46:46

go out and play this audio outside.

46:48

Don't do that. That's dumb.

46:51

That's dumb. We know this much about them.

46:54

It might be a good thing. I don't know. I don't

46:56

know what they're saying and what they're doing. I've got them

46:58

in different situations. I

47:00

have them communing, and

47:02

they sound very peaceful. They say

47:05

expressions of autica pica hut and

47:07

FF-ing SF-itif. You

47:10

can hear all of those. Even in

47:12

this recording that I captured, one says

47:14

helicopters. That is in a video

47:17

called Voices from the

47:19

Depths of the Woods. It's almost four

47:22

minutes of audio footage

47:24

that I captured, and it's somewhat

47:27

contiguous in that the recordings overnight

47:29

were almost amounted to four minutes.

47:32

I was on VCVA mode, but you

47:34

hear one say, come with me.

47:36

It's like a deep come with me.

47:38

Another one says helicopters.

47:41

Another one, come with me. You hear other stuff

47:44

in there that's pretty amazing. If

47:46

there's anybody who wants to go down the rabbit

47:48

hole, don't do what I did because it's stressful

47:50

on relationships. I've done the work

47:52

for you. Go to my audio, and you'll

47:54

hear something different every time I listen

47:57

to my encounter's audio was it yesterday. Yeah,

48:00

it was yesterday just to remind me

48:02

I'm not crazy. It did really did happen and I

48:05

picked up something that I hadn't heard before

48:08

But it also makes a difference if you're listening to this

48:10

stuff whether you have your pods on wired

48:13

earbuds listening from a

48:15

Bose speaker Listening

48:17

my car audio all

48:19

of those different sound

48:21

delivery speakers modalities offer

48:24

a different sound a different

48:26

rendering of What's

48:28

there so you got a lot of fun with

48:31

this stuff. It is an amazing journey of discovery

48:33

I never thought this was ever possible never

48:36

dreamed it possible and here I

48:38

am talking Bigfoot with Brian King sharp Been

48:41

a hell of a journey Definitely, man. We've

48:43

mentioned it a couple of times. Let's talk about the

48:46

YouTube channel Let's talk about your website and let's talk

48:48

about your store and where people can find all of

48:50

that stuff Oh, thank you for

48:52

the opportunity the YouTube channel documents my entire

48:54

journey From a bumbling beer drinking

48:56

and these days I've all but given up

48:58

beer. Oh, I'm having one tonight I'll probably

49:00

have two and you'll see me

49:02

bumbling around the woods trying to figure out

49:05

this puzzle trying to figure out this mystery

49:07

really led By my own boyhood curiosity and

49:09

going out at night and doing stupid things

49:11

like whooping and knocking on trees I don't

49:13

do that. Don't do that It's

49:16

just not our place to do that And if really want to see

49:18

one of them want to have an engagement Bring

49:20

them in dealing with kindness be passive to

49:23

them and they'll come they're

49:25

very curious They watch what

49:27

reminds me of in first Enoch the

49:29

the life of these watchers Which

49:32

are the sons of God do they have a

49:34

line to God or are they reporting on us?

49:36

I have no idea This is where you sound

49:38

like you cuckoo I can totally

49:40

understand that anybody in the audience would think I'm

49:42

not but like I said Based

49:44

on the evidence and I've got all the ends

49:46

of stuff based on everything that I've

49:48

listened to and learned I've come to a few

49:50

conclusions that number one how little we know About

49:54

the nature of things and that this phenomenon

49:56

is a reality and it's something I think

49:58

we need to learn from I survived so

50:00

far, I'm grateful to have told the story. You

50:02

can learn a little bit about my story at

50:04

Michigan Original, and

50:07

I have a store there. I'm between jobs, and

50:09

I'd love to be in some form of semi-retirement.

50:11

I know that what I've captured here is novel.

50:13

It is a journey that I prayed on throughout

50:15

the journey, and I'm grateful for that

50:18

journey. It's not just me. It's

50:20

not all me. I can guarantee you. In that light,

50:22

it seems like we're living in a matrix. Either God

50:24

is real or we're in a matrix. It's

50:27

a weird sort of epiphany. I'm formerly atheist,

50:30

totally atheist. I rationalized God out of my

50:32

life, and a lot of life happens. You

50:35

have another perspective, and I'm grateful for that

50:38

perspective. So I share that on michiganaboriginal.com. You

50:40

can look at me up on YouTube as

50:42

the Michigan Aboriginal Project. I've got a variety

50:44

of things in there, and you can see

50:47

my whole journey. Back in the days where

50:49

you could argue that I had some cases

50:51

of pareidolia, and I know I have. I

50:53

don't go with still images or blurry renderings.

50:55

I don't do that. That

50:57

can drive you crazy, people. If you're doing

51:00

that, give it up. Go

51:02

to the strategically located places

51:04

along the rivers, just outside your town. You don't

51:06

have to go very far. I can go to

51:08

Southfield, Michigan, which is a 20-minute drive from Grosse

51:11

Pointe, where I live now. And

51:13

there are inroads. There's a greenway in from

51:15

the Rouge River. Any

51:17

of our river systems hosts a

51:19

population of these beings

51:21

or some kinds of these beings.

51:24

But you look inside of the

51:26

oxbows, look in areas that have

51:29

accessibility. One spot in Ann Arbor

51:32

has power lines, railways,

51:34

a couple bridges across

51:36

the river. The river

51:38

itself is a corridor, and

51:41

it's a soft spot to follow. In 2022,

51:43

in August, it

51:45

was on my birthday, I captured what

51:47

sounds like two female subjects. One

51:50

of them says, Honey-a-wah, I wish you'd give one

51:52

a-wah. Sounds totally Native American language to me, if

51:54

you ask me. I

51:56

invite academics, I invite scientists,

51:59

crypto-agents. anthropologists, if there are such

52:01

things, to scrutinize my work. I

52:03

invite that open door invitation, bring

52:06

it on, I'll share audio. This is something we

52:08

really need to know. Everything

52:10

is enough. And we shouldn't be afraid of it,

52:12

I think. Although some

52:14

moments are truly terrifying. So

52:17

you see me and all my bubbling

52:19

idiocy when I started out as

52:21

a syrup smoking beer drinking boy in the woods

52:24

to now where I'm somewhat passively

52:26

yet somewhat more investently

52:28

recording these structures. One of

52:30

my favorite verses is Jeremiah 33.3, that the

52:33

Lord says, Call to

52:35

me and I will answer you and tell you

52:37

great and hidden things that you have not known.

52:39

And I feel like that's what I've done here.

52:41

Being formerly atheist, having this little God

52:44

journey, which again, I

52:46

never saw coming and praying on

52:48

this adventure and ending up getting

52:51

some revelations like the Michigan Valley

52:53

Voices. These beings are

52:55

civil and they're having a meeting

52:58

in God's country, if you will. It's

53:00

bizarre. Some of these guys chant. I've

53:02

got them chanting. You can hear

53:04

them chanting. All of my

53:06

audio is subject to rightful

53:08

criticisms. Just know that a

53:11

little suspension of your preconceived notions

53:13

is necessary to accept the bigger

53:16

picture. I hope I got that out.

53:18

Okay. I think you did, man.

53:20

I think you did. Everybody go check it

53:22

out. I will link to that stuff in

53:24

the show notes so you guys go check

53:26

it out. Thank you. If everybody cares, I

53:28

buy a t-shirt or a sticker that would

53:30

help me a long way. It's interesting times.

53:32

I've been right now. So I'd be grateful.

53:34

I got all the designs I've made on

53:37

my own. That's the one most we'll recognize.

53:39

I use the iconic image or the profile

53:41

to make light of this thing. I used

53:43

to be Michigan's soft watch on YouTube. I'm

53:45

now Michigan Aboriginal Project. Because I think this

53:47

discussion deserves a little higher level of discussion,

53:50

if you will. And there are a lot of

53:52

very learned people out there. If you know Dr.

53:54

Judd Burton, look Dr. Judd

53:56

Burton up. He's aware that this other

53:59

realm... this unseen realm of

54:02

other beings exists. He knows and

54:05

he has a perspective which it's not

54:07

unique, but it's a minority in his

54:09

field of theology or dependency, if you

54:12

will. Yeah, he's a very learned look

54:14

up the works of Michael Heiser, Dr.

54:17

Michael Heiser. He has a book called The Unseen

54:19

Realm and he's very popular on YouTube. You're going

54:21

to learn a lot. It underscores

54:23

the fact to me that the very

54:26

existence of these otherworldly beings,

54:28

beasts, or whatever, and they

54:30

are mortal, they're very real,

54:33

but their very existence affirms

54:35

the narratives of the Old Testament, which

54:37

is a huge pill

54:39

to swallow because we're

54:41

increasingly a secularized nation and to

54:44

realize, and I've been there,

54:46

I rationalized God out of my life and

54:48

thought people were foolish for leaving

54:50

such stories of giants, right? Yeah,

54:53

here I am, talking to Brian King,

54:56

sure, about this crazy subject. What a blessing.

54:58

Thank you for your time. Get

55:20

out of here. Get

55:49

out of here. Come

56:00

on. Come on.

56:08

So, that

56:10

was my wake-up call this morning around

56:12

6 a.m. This is the vocal that

56:14

woke me up. And if you listen

56:16

closely, you can also hear a vocal here. This

56:18

is very esoteric stuff, guys. But

56:21

that, a little more difficult to

56:24

detect, but you can hear it in the background. This

56:26

is what woke me up. It

56:30

was fucking terrifying. Pardon my language. It was kind

56:33

of crazy. So,

56:37

this is first splash, having

56:40

a stab at the filtering and audio cleanup,

56:42

that kind of stuff. But I saw the

56:46

subject. I mean, look it up. When

56:48

I said, hey, I saw it, and

56:50

it seemed to kind of jump back as

56:52

if it were surprised that I would be

56:54

surprised, or taking

56:56

that kind of retaliatory

56:59

stance. And

57:03

you hear me say, hey, and then here, get out of

57:05

here. And on the audio,

57:07

I've got my Bose linked up. It's Bluetooth,

57:10

so there's a slight delay in what you

57:12

hear and what you see here. But

57:15

this is the vocal print that

57:19

sounds, I have to say, it sounds

57:21

kind of demonic. I hate to

57:23

say that, but because I've had other

57:25

opinions of these, I've heard them in

57:27

their natural state, without

57:30

the presence of any humans sounding very

57:32

pleasant. But I saw the subject. It

57:35

was about four foot. I

57:37

presume it was a juvenile Sasquatch,

57:41

using this sort of harmonic

57:43

resonant vocal modality that you

57:45

can hear in the background.

57:47

This is really audible. You

57:49

can hear it back there. I don't

57:52

remember hearing that at all, but here's,

57:55

that is me right there,

57:58

I think. I think that my. be

58:00

my expletive. Here's

58:03

me saying, hey, and here's saying,

58:07

get out of here. And

58:10

so that's that. Pretty

58:12

scary stuff. That's how I woke up

58:15

this morning. That's why I've come home

58:17

one day earlier than I traditionally would

58:20

have. I traditionally spend four nights

58:23

in the woods solo in the

58:25

spring, early spring, late fall. No bugs,

58:27

no people, except for these bastards, these

58:29

little assholes. Pardon my language,

58:31

but I hadn't slept

58:33

well in three nights and going on three nights

58:35

with this one. And for

58:38

this little bastard to carry on

58:40

it sounds like a huge

58:42

monster or some sort of demoniac.

58:46

I don't know that they're demoniacs. I don't.

58:48

I really don't. But that

58:50

shit went down this morning.

58:53

And that's why I am home.

58:59

So anyway, that's that. I

59:01

hope you enjoyed this

59:04

and that's about all I got.

59:06

So that

59:08

happened. Take care, y'all. Be

59:10

well. Peace. Thank

59:28

you. Bye.

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