Lawyer, linguist and teacher Aliya Danzeisen converted to Islam as an adult four months before 9/11. Today, Aliya is the national co-ordinator and spokesperson for the Islamic Women's Council, and a standard bearer for the contribution Muslim women are making in New Zealand. Danzeisen prepared the Islamic Women's Council's response to the Royal Commission of Inquiry into the Christchurch mosque attacks. A week out from the 5th anniversary of the massacre, she joins Susie to reflect on the gains made for Muslim New Zealanders, and ongoing barriers and prejudice.