Professor Mohamad Abdalla is one of Australia's most prominent Muslim leaders. Over the last 15 years, he played a leading role in establishing Islamic Studies (Research and Teaching) as an academic area of study in Australia, including securing $8m to establish the National Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies (NCEIS), a collaboration between the University of Melbourne, Griffith University and the University of Western Sydney. Professor Abdalla has been visiting families in Christchurch in the wake of the Christchurch shootings, and speaks to Kim about dealing with radicalisation.